He was on point when he said once you hit your 30's your mind changes!! That ain't nothing but hard facts!! Maturation is a beautiful thing. It's just too bad many won't ever know
That's why Edi always says that people forget that Pac was young, dudes was trying to kill him, etc. He didn't get a chance to outgrow it and mature. I think that Pac would have eventually went back to his Black Panther roots and would have been a hard core activist
Grandmaster Melle Mel 💯 I can't believe this guy's been around since the early days of hip hop. He has dropped some of the most thoughtful rhymes on the mic.
For anybody that still thinks Suge Knight had 2Pac killed, has Never watched a Mob Movie! Nobody in there right mind will sit next to you on a Hit! PERIOD. R.I.P Makaveli!
“Any artist who wants to be an artist and don’t want to have the record executive All in the video budget... owning all ur cars ...owning all ur homes... Don’t come to Deathrow” is what Suge should have said 😂
He makes a great point.. Tupac should have just kept them Bloods at distance and just be friends with them and not get involved with the gang banging. Melle Mel dropping saying some real ish.
Tupac was defendin his label’s honor. not so much the Blood/Crip shit 💯 not to mention, there was agents & crooked cops watchin him that night & certain people(cops) were missin from where they were supposed to be, to be in Vegas to watch Suge & Pac. it was a mixture of plays in motion that night
Tupac was trying to be hard like he always was when I would see him back in the day. I was a young hardheaded Brotha myself then and Pac was cool with a few of my homegirls but he definitely was on some hardheaded impressive type of living. He just wasn't lucky as some of us bottom line
Of course PAC should not have got involved! Still with all that money and all those hardcore Gangstas they should have protected him no matter what. They were running around too loose. R.I.P Makavelli The Don!!
It's not about being no street dude. But it is about being a man, and as a man I want my respect. And if I don't get it I'm going to take it. For them street dudes bleed just like me.
You don't have to worry about getting respect from hard street dudes if you don't get involved with them on that level. As a man that's a decision you make.
Don't forget the phone call with Monster that was recorded. Pac said he was coming around to gangbanging because the movement shit almost got him killed. He really believed a black person wouldn't attack him. He was trying to build a movement and really believed DR was the vehicle for it. They already did shit for the community. Pac wanted a team and hwanted to hit back at the A Team from NY the ones who set him up. He was trying to build a rep to approach hard core drug dealers and gangbangers and try and reclaim the streets. He wasn't just getting into some gang shit. Also people seem to be forgetting that Keefe D said many times that Orlando just wanted a fair fight until Zip Von Martin popped up and gave them the gun. A NY dude, not LA dude, a NY drug dealer. It was a conspiracy between NY rappers and LA gangbangers. Also, how did Pac get to DR? Set up on false rape charges.. That was cointelpro, having him in court all the time taking his money, fucking with him psychologically in prison, isolation etc etc etc.. That's all cointelpro from the state. Fuck it sad to see the black community repeatedly shit on Pac.
The biggest question is whether Suge and the Bloods were ever loyal to Pac like he was loyal to them? Everyone knows Pac was East Coast so I always wondered if Pac was just a chess piece for them from the start. Any way Pac should have left when Dre jumped ship.
The answer is no they were not. Orlando was paid to stand there so Pac could fight him and violate his probation. One of Suge homeboys whispered in Pac ear. That was the battery. If you look at when they first come out the Tyson fight Suge is rushing and pushing him while pac is tryna talk to the cameras. Suge didn’t know that plan had a part 2 that’s the only thing
@@roadrunner2439 Pac was leaving,Suge wanted him to stay , if Pac goes back to jail Suge can control him. Suge paid Orlando to take a beating. The mgm video tells the whole truth and intent, that’s why you can’t find clear unedited footage of it anywhere.
Pac had a strong urge to understand all people. He could meet a person the next day and if they hit it off for a brief moment he'll think of them as his homie. I listened to many around him who said that's how he was. Pac cared too much for people when he should've prioritized his own well being first. Trusting people was his downfall, ironically in the prison interview he admitted this but in the end didn't take his own advice. Yes his death technically looks gang related when you factor in bad boy ties with south side crips and etc etc but from my perspective I think Pac just got down for someone he considered a friend which was Travon Lane and it cost him his life.
@@bjc4204 Yeah that lifestyle was too appealing to him and he couldn't get out. The thing is he knew better, with everything he had planned it required time but as we know time was unfortunately not on his side.
Lol Orlando had nothing to do with it. 2 hours later he found Pac randomly and perfect at a red light? There were traffic everywhere but not the lane Orlando and the three other guys rolled on? How did they roll all the way up to Pac & Suge? Also, cops, undercover cops, cops on bikes, the feds were at the scene, cop helicopter, cameras, witnesses. Still no one got caught? Same thing with BIG, no one got caught. Only way you get away with murder in not only one but two high profile cases, is if the cops are letting you get away, or if they even were directly involved in the killings. Recently it was known for example that the NOI, NYPD & FBI had Malcolm X killed. The feds uses crooked cops to do their dirty work, that’s atleast what I believe
@@mrrich9799 That’s exactly what they want you think. Just another gangbanging. Strange then that only the two biggest artists gets killed or even hit with bullets. Nothing happend to the bodyguards, gangbangers, the CEOs (Suge & Diddy). Ask Russell Pooles son if it was gangbanging, ask Gene Deal, Kevin Hackie, Mopreme Shakur, Treach
A lot of people don’t know he was shot at many of times before getting shot in 1994 as well. 2pac was bound to get shot or slain. When you live that life and keep chasing death, eventually it will embrace you. Man was smart and talented. When you surround yourself with ignorant people, even they will influence you to make bad decisions. That’s basically what happened at death row. Surrounded by criminals and killers and that lifestyle was embrace by 2pac
EXACTLY!!!!! You people need to stop with the conspiracy theories. Pac was killed by gang retaliation. That simple. Let Pac rest in peace please. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
It was a conspiracy though between NY rappers and LA gangbangers and if you add in all the cointelpro tactics used against Pac from being a fucking teenager by the state you can make the case the US paved the way for this boys death.
If we wanna go even farther into "Conspiracy Theories" route. Another thing is that Both Biggie and Pac died on a full dark moon🌑. Pac died 213 days after All Eyez On Me February13th 2/13 came out. LA has 213 as area code. After Pac died at 25. 25 years later Afeni died on May 2nd 2016, right on Machiavelli's birthday and Black Panther 50th anniversary years. 25 + 25 is 50. Pac said on So Many Tears - "My every move is an caculated step to bring me closer to accept my early death." You wonder how Afeni got free from Jail but the other Panthers people still locked in jail or dead till this day. Something must of happened 🤔
Pac was too easily influenced. He always became whomever he hung out with. He also believed what people told him too easily and overextended himself to bad people and situations. Had he not been constantly trying to be down, he'd probably be one of the most successful entertainers alive today. He'd also probably become a huge politician or president.
Nah pac was never easily influenced he was a leader it's a reason why people gravitated towards him and Tupac was too powerful and so he was sacrificed hes the most influential rapper of all time
@@jeremiahlewis4630 Tupac was not sacrificed. Don't start with these stupid conspiracy theories. Tupac was around Suge Knight-A blood and punched Orlando Anderson-a crip from Compton and they came back and did a drive-by and killed him. That simple.
Everybody know 2pac wasn't involved in gang activity 2pac brought gangs together uniting black men together the gang activity n Orlando storyline getting old
Nah fuck that so if im cool with gay people does that make me gay. Fuck that im cool with gang but i aint no gangstar so fuck that. Death Row was full of Bloods and Crips. I love Pac but God is greater and it was hes time so why we make it gangbang. Pac was shot 5times it was not hes time 13 Sept. 1996 it was hes time. So fuck all yall like Pac said everybody die so revence reswirl
@@antoniojoseph3342 if you hang with gay ppl, you might not he gay but I guarantee you'll pick up on their tendencies.. and calm down cupcake, it's just opinions. Shit, you already have female tendencies. You're getting emotional on social media...👋🏽👋🏽
Just hit my 30s recently. I remember when I passed the age of 25 & was thinking, damn, I lived more life than Pac. The whole mindset changes automatically. That bit of maturity is something else.
Exactly! Thank you! This is what I have been saying too. This is what I wrote under this video... Lol Orlando had nothing to do with it. 2 hours later he found Pac randomly and perfect at a red light? There were traffic everywhere but not the lane Orlando and the three other guys rolled on? How did they roll all the way up to Pac & Suge? Also, cops, undercover cops, cops on bikes, the feds were at the scene, cop helicopter, cameras, witnesses. Still no one got caught? Same thing with BIG, no one got caught. Only way you get away with murder in not only one but two high profile cases, is if the cops are letting you get away, or if they even were directly involved in the killings. Recently it was known for example that the NOI, NYPD & FBI had Malcolm X killed. The feds uses crooked cops to do their dirty work, that’s atleast what I believe
That's the thing. The company you keep can be your downfall. That shit is true. That's why I hang with nerds. We get money, stay low key and stay outta trouble.
That's why Dr. Dre left Death Row and let Suge keep everything He grew up around gangs & saw the way Suge was doing that people were gonna end up dead and he could of been one of them. It worked like a charm. Now he's 800 million strong Of course he's got that drama with his wife in the divorce but that's peanuts compared to where he was at in the early days He'll still come out on top even if he had to split his fortune with her at his age in his mid 50's He would still be left with 400 million
You kind of went left w/ the divorce talk... but how Dre managed to do that is nothing short of remarkable! Certain fans aren't going to be able to relate, so to put it this way, what Dr. Dre did is the hip-hop equivalent of Steve Jobs leaving apple, to come back and then just knock shit straight out the park.
It was some gang members. Suge may have direct or indirect had a hand in it but it was still gang members. Gang culture in California is serious and a lot of folks in that world felt Big & Puffy coming to Cali so soon after Pac death was disrespectful. Big may not have even been the target. Puffy shouldn’t have had him out in Cali like that especially hanging out around town going on radio. LAPD cover up made it look like conspiracy after the fact cause they weren’t sure if some of their officers who were gang affiliated were involved. They looking at the lawsuits side so they trying to cover up that so not to be held responsible. Like Pac said it was a issue between 2 grown men & it got out of hand.
@@stevey-nwas1230 Exactly, Puffy was the one who lead Biggie to L.A., he was also the one who lead Biggie to the after party, plus Puffy was the one who distracted Big Gene(Puffy's security) at that after party, and Puffy was the one who wouldn't allow Big Gene to walk along side their SUV as it traveled the pathway away from the after party.
Diddy handed him over to amir muhammed who was best friends with David Mack LAPD officer who worked for suge knight and was found to be corrupt later that year in the rampart scandal. Big gene deal told us the truth on it all
That shit could had been avoided. They should had handle shit they self and took Pac in the opposite direction. You don't let your best rapper go handle a gang beef especially if he's not part of it.
@@yaboy7505 Beat up the Hughes brothers, fought rapper keith Murray, got jumped robbed and shot for resisting being robbed, and even after being shot by Orlando, the cops asked him who shot 'em pac said fuck u. That dont sound soft to me!
If there is a such thing as living nine lives Tupac lived 13 in his life span no doubt about that political and a genius rap poet. Mel knows the street scene for sure tough guys end up jail or snitching or watching ya back for the rest of your life. Bullets have no names on them Or sometimes they definitely do.
Marcus Garvey’s (#35) THE DON’T’S The following is a list of things, most of which have been discussed, that the Afrikan Master Student MUST AVOID AT ALL COST #1. DON’T allow SUPERFICIALITIES to keep You from Your People. (graduate vs. undergraduate, athlete vs. non-athlete, professional vs. non-professional, middle class vs. lower class, north vs south, east vs west, Man vs. Woman, science vs. liberal arts, Democrat vs. Republican, Greek vs. non-Greek, Caribbean vs United States of Amerika). #2. DON’T allow Yourself to develop an ELITIST MENTALITY. #3 DON’T allow the Enemy(European Colonist) to DIVIDE and CONQUER You. #4. DON’T allow the Enemy(European Colonist) to PICK and CHOOSE Your Leaders. #5. DON’T become a SLAVE to Money or Position. #6. DON’T allow the Enemy(European Colonist) or Yourselves to USE, ABUSE, or MISTREAT You or Your People. #7. DON’T allow the Enemy(European Colonist) to SET Your Standards goals or Objectives. #8. DON’T allow the Enemy(European Colonist) to DEFINE and SELECT Your Ideology(Highest Values). #9. DON’T become a SLAVE to Material Things. #10. DON’T allow the Enemy(European Colonist) or Yourselves to DRUG or LURE You to Sleep(cousin of death). #11. DON’T allow the Enemy(European Colonist) or Yourselves to DEMEAN or DEHUMANIZE Your Heritage. #12. DON’T ACCEPT Something simply because the Enemy(European Colonist) says You SHOULD. #13. DON”T allow the Enemy(European Colonist) to DEFINE and REPRESENT Your Interest. #14. DON’T work AGAINST Your People. #15. DON’T MISTREAT Your Brother’s and Sister’s(People). #16. DON’T promote VALUES and PRACTICES that are ANTI-Afrikan #17. DON’T choose INDIVIDUALISM over Peoplehood and Community. #18. DON’T DISCUSS Family Problems in Public or with the Enemy(European Colonist). #19. DON’T celebrate EUROPEAN COLONIST HOLIDAY’S. #20. DON’T allow the Enemy(European Colonist) to DICTATE Your Methods for Struggle. #21. DON’T support things that DISRUPT Unity, Organization, and Peoplehood. #22. DON’T allow Yourself to become APATHETIC, APOLITICAL, PASSIVE or PESSIMISTIC. #23. DON’T act on EMOTION. #24. DON’T allow the Enemy(European Colonist) to DISARM You. #25. DON’T do things that IMPEDE(Jeopardize) the struggle. #26. DON’T REJECT Values, Lifestyles, and Traditions that Make Your Culture Unique. #27. DON’T SUPPORT Artist, Businesses, Politicians, Organizations, or Institutions that EXPLOIT the Afrikan Community in this Country or Abroad. #28. DON’T BETRAY Your Brother’s and Sister’s(People). #29. DON’T practice INEQUALITY, SEXISM, or CLASSISM. #30. DON’T PATRONIZE Corporations, Institutions, or Organizations that VIOLATE Afrikan Interest. #31. DON’T do the DIRTY WORK of the Enemy (European Colonist). #32. DON’T run from ADVERSITY. #33. DON’T be AFRAID to Fight Back. #34. DON’T DEFEAT Yourself or Your People before the Battle even begins. #35. DON’T EXPLOIT Your People.
#He told you right. That's how I play it for good, except I rap up the tough guys and go be with God.# 😁💪🏾💪🏾. # Christopher Wallace 2 aka Finnis Don King 🔥
Holding up the 6...stuttering...a part of the industry. One day they'll let Pac be in peace and keep him out there mouth..or maybe not. Most talked about person ago these years later
2pac should've never Joined Piru When he was with the crips he was Protected because at that time in the 90s crips dominated LA And had many alies and not A lot of beef amongst each other Yeah crips beef with crips but 80s 90s it wasn't as bad crip on crip now Now in LA everybody hate each other Piru vs piru, blood vs bloods, crips vs crips, everybody against Hoovers, mexicans against blacks and themselves. When Pac got with Pirus/Bloods He became aggressive amd angry And more paranoid And ready to mash Because Pirus and bloods is outnumbered in LA and had to be crazy and ready to fight or kill Becoming Piru was 2pac worst mistake
That fight was the open door for that shooting but Anderson was hot withs the feds to many police around Tupac was community activists simple and planned
Mob James said that he knew that the Southside crips would be in Vegas that night.. I don't know how he knew that but that's what he said in his first Vlad interview. He then goes on to say that he seen them at the club 662 so he proceeded to alert Suge and the rest of Death Row. My Point is Orlando was out there that night to kill anybody associated with death row! (Pac included) Tupac running up on him had nothing to do with his death. Because if I'm looking to get someone I'm gonna try to get the biggest fish regardless of what happened before hand. I just look at it like this... You can't believe every word a person says on this situation. Because sometimes they don't even know they damn self what happened.
Melle Mel thinks and believes Orlando was the trigger man based on his opinion Facts prove Orlando was now where near where Tupac was shot !!! Research is knowledge!!!
I want to believe it was just that simple.. but all the weird stories and strange witness statements, even the name of their posthumous albums, raises questions. That could've even been intentional but then you gotta ask why? Just to sell records? It's been over 20yrs and no new music has come out from either of them in quite awhile but the theories are still coming....so what's the real reason?
All facts and it's okay to say suge was Pac downfall cause honestly before suge I liked Pac music much better it was poetry and suge changed Pac character into hate when before Pac was all for the black community and trying to make a difference and I'm not saying that he wasn't doing the same with death row but death row was all negatively and Pac was so intelligent that he could've done much more even without death row.
hahahaahhaah the fbi killed tupac hahahahahahha.... right so the FBI killed tupac but all of his blood homies and suge just gonna stay quiet and not tell anyone.... :D LOL... they got so much respect for the police right
Tupac was in flight or plight. He chose plight as it resembled loyalty. It doesn’t take rocket science. Weirdos will speculate senseless blabs. Orlando Anderson partook in the setup as a pawn but he 100% did not pull the trigger. Bountry and Pac were legit the only 2 of many actually getting it in with Orlando. Orlando and Suge were P I C. Nah Mell, with Pac it was a set up and it wasn’t that simple bc gang bangers recognize bruh. He was a baby. Biggie truly patterned himself after PAC from the fashion to black military mind. Tupac was a pure artist and prodigy.
He was on point when he said once you hit your 30's your mind changes!! That ain't nothing but hard facts!! Maturation is a beautiful thing. It's just too bad many won't ever know
That's why Edi always says that people forget that Pac was young, dudes was trying to kill him, etc. He didn't get a chance to outgrow it and mature. I think that Pac would have eventually went back to his Black Panther roots and would have been a hard core activist
I'm 41, sometimes it
Wrong, mature starts at 23-25
Try 40 and fifties what that's like to your brain
Once again he's kicking the truth to the young black youths, and matures too ! WISE MAN 💯⏳✊🏾
Grandmaster Melle Mel 💯 I can't believe this guy's been around since the early days of hip hop. He has dropped some of the most thoughtful rhymes on the mic.
It's Good To See Grandmaster Melle Mel Being Interviewed On Different Platforms
For anybody that still thinks Suge Knight had 2Pac killed, has Never watched a Mob Movie! Nobody in there right mind will sit next to you on a Hit! PERIOD. R.I.P Makaveli!
Mob movies? Really? Ok Nas. In Mob movies it’s always your best friend that pulls the trigger. BTW I don’t believe Suge did it.
You wrong about that Buddy when the mob wants u dead they send your homie or friend to do it
suge is not innocent
thats not what happened tho
He’s spot on about the company you keep dictates what will happen in your life, you just don’t know when.
He's right.. Pac got in too deep with the bloods.. he should've just kept them as friends and not get involved with the stop they was doing
Yea 2Pac was doing too much, going to Compton hoods and fighting rivals, getting tattooed the hood, beating up people in the studios with the Pirus
@@gangstamack8397 y'all Crips do the same.
They were not his friends. Theres no friends in business. Those guys were extorting 2pac
This guy needs his own platform to reach out to the youths ....
They won’t listen
@@freezhollywood we can only try , we don't want them to say nobody told us..
@@V59971 u right but they gonna do their own thing and play victim anyway
@@freezhollywood as adults/ community we would have done our part...
No he don’t !
Professor Griff and Melly Mel both hold no punches; two of Hip hop's best royalty.
“Any artist who wants to be an artist and don’t want to have the record executive All in the video budget... owning all ur cars ...owning all ur homes... Don’t come to Deathrow” is what Suge should have said 😂
At the music awards show lol
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And sleeping with your girl . O yeah and the occasional Board Room ass whooping
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@@myronsmith2114 they stayed beating up niggas smfh😂😂😂😂😂🤦🏾♀️
3:00 "it's shows how easy it is to get killed". Effective communication.
that's some real ish
He makes a great point.. Tupac should have just kept them Bloods at distance and just be friends with them and not get involved with the gang banging. Melle Mel dropping saying some real ish.
He's 100% right!
that's some real talk man
he told no lies
He got to pumped up after that mike tyson fight in vegas. It's sad
And he was absolutely right.
Melle Mel stay dropping that real ish
Melle Mel always keeps it real 💯
What's crazy is that Suge knew who the shooters were and never said a word.
Suge not a rat that’s why lol
@@mikebest2608 when?
Suge was a street dude regardless of whether or not it was right or wrong dats the street code he wasn’t gonna snitch dats his mentality
Yup thats crazy lol
He definitely said it was NOT Orlando Anderson. The Audio is out there.
Deeper Than Rap
This man's wisdom is a hiphop treasure trove.
Tupac was defendin his label’s honor. not so much the Blood/Crip shit 💯 not to mention, there was agents & crooked cops watchin him that night & certain people(cops) were missin from where they were supposed to be, to be in Vegas to watch Suge & Pac. it was a mixture of plays in motion that night
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Yea 2Pac was already paying them to do the job but he took it on himself when he didn't need to in reality
Tupac was trying to be hard like he always was when I would see him back in the day. I was a young hardheaded Brotha myself then and Pac was cool with a few of my homegirls but he definitely was on some hardheaded impressive type of living. He just wasn't lucky as some of us bottom line
And died..........was it a fair trade
@@carlosrob6494 boa go sit down 😂😂
Wow that's that OG talk thank you Sir Melle Mel
Educational lesson to the young generation: That's how bullets are.
Parents should raise their kids right. That's where it all starts.
Of course PAC should not have got involved! Still with all that money and all those hardcore Gangstas they should have protected him no matter what. They were running around too loose. R.I.P Makavelli The Don!!
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Great interview. I truly hope that the youngsters are paying attention to what this man is saying.
Imagine 2pac and Kanye in the studio just ranting 🤓
Pac and DMX
That would be funny 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The story changes every time about 2pac man.
It's not about being no street dude. But it is about being a man, and as a man I want my respect. And if I don't get it I'm going to take it. For them street dudes bleed just like me.
2pac was a young man from the ghetto from the begining
Trill 💯
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Trill 💯
You don't have to worry about getting respect from hard street dudes if you don't get involved with them on that level. As a man that's a decision you make.
Mel was on point. I like when people are real on what they say.
Don't forget the phone call with Monster that was recorded. Pac said he was coming around to gangbanging because the movement shit almost got him killed. He really believed a black person wouldn't attack him. He was trying to build a movement and really believed DR was the vehicle for it. They already did shit for the community. Pac wanted a team and hwanted to hit back at the A Team from NY the ones who set him up. He was trying to build a rep to approach hard core drug dealers and gangbangers and try and reclaim the streets.
He wasn't just getting into some gang shit. Also people seem to be forgetting that Keefe D said many times that Orlando just wanted a fair fight until Zip Von Martin popped up and gave them the gun. A NY dude, not LA dude, a NY drug dealer. It was a conspiracy between NY rappers and LA gangbangers. Also, how did Pac get to DR? Set up on false rape charges.. That was cointelpro, having him in court all the time taking his money, fucking with him psychologically in prison, isolation etc etc etc.. That's all cointelpro from the state.
Fuck it sad to see the black community repeatedly shit on Pac.
These are All Great points ✔️ ☑️ ✅ 👏🏾👏🏾
RIP pac keep bringing the 🔥🔥🔥 art of Dialogue makaveli lives on
The biggest question is whether Suge and the Bloods were ever loyal to Pac like he was loyal to them? Everyone knows Pac was East Coast so I always wondered if Pac was just a chess piece for them from the start. Any way Pac should have left when Dre jumped ship.
Bruh if you really knew the backstory the bloods killed for him after he died
The answer is no they were not. Orlando was paid to stand there so Pac could fight him and violate his probation. One of Suge homeboys whispered in Pac ear. That was the battery. If you look at when they first come out the Tyson fight Suge is rushing and pushing him while pac is tryna talk to the cameras. Suge didn’t know that plan had a part 2 that’s the only thing
@@dexterisaccs545 Orlando was definitely a plant but Suge wasn't in on the plot
@@roadrunner2439 Pac was leaving,Suge wanted him to stay , if Pac goes back to jail Suge can control him. Suge paid Orlando to take a beating. The mgm video tells the whole truth and intent, that’s why you can’t find clear unedited footage of it anywhere.
@@dexterisaccs545 Nobody is sitting in a car while the person next to you is getting shot at. Your imagination is too vivid.
Everything he said was spot on
Pac had a strong urge to understand all people. He could meet a person the next day and if they hit it off for a brief moment he'll think of them as his homie. I listened to many around him who said that's how he was. Pac cared too much for people when he should've prioritized his own well being first. Trusting people was his downfall, ironically in the prison interview he admitted this but in the end didn't take his own advice. Yes his death technically looks gang related when you factor in bad boy ties with south side crips and etc etc but from my perspective I think Pac just got down for someone he considered a friend which was Travon Lane and it cost him his life.
I completely agree. He was very impressionable too.
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@@bjc4204 Yeah that lifestyle was too appealing to him and he couldn't get out. The thing is he knew better, with everything he had planned it required time but as we know time was unfortunately not on his side.
Yup pac was too loyal
It's deeper than that. Ain't about gang banging or loyalty per se.
Lol Orlando had nothing to do with it. 2 hours later he found Pac randomly and perfect at a red light? There were traffic everywhere but not the lane Orlando and the three other guys rolled on? How did they roll all the way up to Pac & Suge?
Also, cops, undercover cops, cops on bikes, the feds were at the scene, cop helicopter, cameras, witnesses. Still no one got caught? Same thing with BIG, no one got caught.
Only way you get away with murder in not only one but two high profile cases, is if the cops are letting you get away, or if they even were directly involved in the killings.
Recently it was known for example that the NOI, NYPD & FBI had Malcolm X killed.
The feds uses crooked cops to do their dirty work, that’s atleast what I believe
Bro Orlando did it. Its all gangbanging shit at the end of the day that got Pac and Big killed. Nothing more nothing less.
@@mrrich9799 That’s exactly what they want you think. Just another gangbanging. Strange then that only the two biggest artists gets killed or even hit with bullets. Nothing happend to the bodyguards, gangbangers, the CEOs (Suge & Diddy).
Ask Russell Pooles son if it was gangbanging, ask Gene Deal, Kevin Hackie, Mopreme Shakur, Treach
Thug life. Enough said.
RIP Pac
Salute for this
The thing is he was shot 5 times before as well, so he was being targeted regardless
A lot of people don’t know he was shot at many of times before getting shot in 1994 as well. 2pac was bound to get shot or slain. When you live that life and keep chasing death, eventually it will embrace you. Man was smart and talented. When you surround yourself with ignorant people, even they will influence you to make bad decisions. That’s basically what happened at death row. Surrounded by criminals and killers and that lifestyle was embrace by 2pac
@@DeezNuts-ju2ji Pac was shot in NY in 94 from hanging with dudes both Biggie and Mike Tyson who grew up in NY warned him about associating with.
@@rovingwarrior3710 if you would read up above ☝️ I believe that coincide with what’s being said “You big dummy”
He's really not saying anything that we didn't know already.
You were looking for answers? He's just giving his opinion. There are many out there.
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If you all knew how deep the panther family was
Right 25 years later after Pac died on 25, Afeni finally dies right on Black Panthers 50th Anniversary and on Machiavelli's birthday at that..
EXACTLY!!!!! You people need to stop with the conspiracy theories. Pac was killed by gang retaliation. That simple. Let Pac rest in peace please. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
They can't. They refuse to accept that a "Nobody" killed Pac.
It was a conspiracy though between NY rappers and LA gangbangers and if you add in all the cointelpro tactics used against Pac from being a fucking teenager by the state you can make the case the US paved the way for this boys death.
He made some good points
You definitely have to watch the company you keep in order to either excel or derail in life.
If we wanna go even farther into "Conspiracy Theories" route. Another thing is that Both Biggie and Pac died on a full dark moon🌑.
Pac died 213 days after All Eyez On Me February13th 2/13 came out. LA has 213 as area code.
After Pac died at 25. 25 years later Afeni died on May 2nd 2016, right on Machiavelli's birthday and Black Panther 50th anniversary years.
25 + 25 is 50.
Pac said on So Many Tears - "My every move is an caculated step to bring me closer to accept my early death."
You wonder how Afeni got free from Jail but the other Panthers people still locked in jail or dead till this day. Something must of happened 🤔
I love his interviews💯
Pac was too easily influenced. He always became whomever he hung out with. He also believed what people told him too easily and overextended himself to bad people and situations. Had he not been constantly trying to be down, he'd probably be one of the most successful entertainers alive today. He'd also probably become a huge politician or president.
So true
I agree . He was loyal to a fault
Thats how loyal I am but I stay to myself now learn my lessons 💯
All facts he had no true identity
As brilliant as Tupac was he had one deadly flaw: *He was easily influenced.*
Too gullible. He became whomever he hung around.
Nah pac was never easily influenced he was a leader it's a reason why people gravitated towards him and Tupac was too powerful and so he was sacrificed hes the most influential rapper of all time
@@bjc4204
Exactly.
@@jeremiahlewis4630
Tupac was not sacrificed. Don't start with these stupid conspiracy theories. Tupac was around Suge Knight-A blood and punched Orlando Anderson-a crip from Compton and they came back and did a drive-by and killed him. That simple.
@@longbeachmaumba7059 why you sleep you really belive gang banger could touch pac dont believe the media
Everybody know 2pac wasn't involved in gang activity 2pac brought gangs together uniting black men together the gang activity n Orlando storyline getting old
You are the company you keep....
Nah fuck that so if im cool with gay people does that make me gay. Fuck that im cool with gang but i aint no gangstar so fuck that. Death Row was full of Bloods and Crips. I love Pac but God is greater and it was hes time so why we make it gangbang. Pac was shot 5times it was not hes time 13 Sept. 1996 it was hes time. So fuck all yall like Pac said everybody die so revence reswirl
@@tymartin2293 correct
@@antoniojoseph3342 if you hang with gay ppl, you might not he gay but I guarantee you'll pick up on their tendencies.. and calm down cupcake, it's just opinions. Shit, you already have female tendencies. You're getting emotional on social media...👋🏽👋🏽
@@tymartin2293 Nah bitch like u said its an opinion
DL Hughley spitting facts
🤣🤣🤣
Again Mel right on so many hip hop levelz...
Just hit my 30s recently. I remember when I passed the age of 25 & was thinking, damn, I lived more life than Pac. The whole mindset changes automatically. That bit of maturity is something else.
This man is a real legend, viewers better recognise.
How about what Michael Moore said he heard, and what Tupac said before going to Vegas.
Great share with the General Melle Mell. #tupac #biggiesmalls #thedossierpodcast
I will never understand why a so called gang banger would tell the rapper to handle the business
Exactly! Thank you! This is what I have been saying too.
This is what I wrote under this video...
Lol Orlando had nothing to do with it. 2 hours later he found Pac randomly and perfect at a red light? There were traffic everywhere but not the lane Orlando and the three other guys rolled on? How did they roll all the way up to Pac & Suge?
Also, cops, undercover cops, cops on bikes, the feds were at the scene, cop helicopter, cameras, witnesses. Still no one got caught? Same thing with BIG, no one got caught.
Only way you get away with murder in not only one but two high profile cases, is if the cops are letting you get away, or if they even were directly involved in the killings.
Recently it was known for example that the NOI, NYPD & FBI had Malcolm X killed.
The feds uses crooked cops to do their dirty work, that’s atleast what I believe
@@jantelagen4262 it’s all Facts,Reggie wright jr and David kenner and some crooked cops killed Tupac and Biggie
PAC was more then a rapper atp "THIS SITUATION GETTING SCARY WATCH ME INVITE THE WORLD ME AND THE MOB GETTING MARRIED" what you think that means?
He is talking facts!
That's the thing. The company you keep can be your downfall. That shit is true. That's why I hang with nerds. We get money, stay low key and stay outta trouble.
That's why Dr. Dre left Death Row and let Suge keep everything
He grew up around gangs & saw the way Suge was doing that people were gonna end up dead and he could of been one of them.
It worked like a charm.
Now he's 800 million strong
Of course he's got that drama with his wife in the divorce but that's peanuts compared to where he was at in the early days
He'll still come out on top even if he had to split his fortune with her at his age in his mid 50's
He would still be left with 400 million
You kind of went left w/ the divorce talk... but how Dre managed to do that is nothing short of remarkable! Certain fans aren't going to be able to relate, so to put it this way, what Dr. Dre did is the hip-hop equivalent of Steve Jobs leaving apple, to come back and then just knock shit straight out the park.
Rip too the 🐐
Melle Mel dropping that game.
Maybe 2pac's assassination was as simple as that, but there was more to the murder of Notorious Big.
It was some gang members. Suge may have direct or indirect had a hand in it but it was still gang members. Gang culture in California is serious and a lot of folks in that world felt Big & Puffy coming to Cali so soon after Pac death was disrespectful. Big may not have even been the target. Puffy shouldn’t have had him out in Cali like that especially hanging out around town going on radio. LAPD cover up made it look like conspiracy after the fact cause they weren’t sure if some of their officers who were gang affiliated were involved. They looking at the lawsuits side so they trying to cover up that so not to be held responsible. Like Pac said it was a issue between 2 grown men & it got out of hand.
Puffy involved in the murder assassination of Tupac and Biggie
@@stevey-nwas1230 Exactly, Puffy was the one who lead Biggie to L.A., he was also the one who lead Biggie to the after party, plus Puffy was the one who distracted Big Gene(Puffy's security) at that after party, and Puffy was the one who wouldn't allow Big Gene to walk along side their SUV as it traveled the pathway away from the after party.
Diddy handed him over to amir muhammed who was best friends with David Mack LAPD officer who worked for suge knight and was found to be corrupt later that year in the rampart scandal. Big gene deal told us the truth on it all
@@kobiecamp1134 Bad Boy was warned not to go to LA because of Suge and the Bloods. It was no secret.
That shit could had been avoided. They should had handle shit they self and took Pac in the opposite direction. You don't let your best rapper go handle a gang beef especially if he's not part of it.
Can't do that when Pac took before anyone could react.
Orlando Anderson's death represent the life he lived, Dude was trigger happy..
Yup
Exactly
HE WAS A COMMON STATISTIC BABY LANE CAUGHT UP IN THE CYCLE
Mel is the king of rap. But cats ain't ready to hear.
Life was so much better back then without the social media bullshit
'If you are a soft dude and you hang with hard dudes you get hard dude treatment' - that's how Pac met his demise
But PAC wasn’t soft, he had nothing to prove...he shot 2 off duty cops in Atlanta he should of distanced himself from the gang life tho
How was he soft ?
@@yaboy7505 Beat up the Hughes brothers, fought rapper keith Murray, got jumped robbed and shot for resisting being robbed, and even after being shot by Orlando, the cops asked him who shot 'em pac said fuck u. That dont sound soft to me!
Thank you
Dope interview bro keep it going
I stayed in my lane facts
Such a great channel
Rest easy Pac,803
Great interview... I agree with the OG...
4:41 I agree 💯👍
He doesn't know what " I'm from the block" mean. That mean you from the streets. 🤦🏾
Agreed
It's different. You can be a hood dude and someone off the block but being a Street Dude has different definition
No it don't
@@BIGGEST5LATT yes it does. If someone tell me they're from the block. That means you're from the streets. He should've said something else.
@@BIGGEST5LATT Yes it do
If there is a such thing as living nine lives Tupac lived 13 in his life span no doubt about that political and a genius rap poet. Mel knows the street scene for sure tough guys end up jail or snitching or watching ya back for the rest of your life. Bullets have no names on them Or sometimes they definitely do.
Talking facts, listen up world!!
Marcus Garvey’s
(#35) THE DON’T’S
The following is a list of things, most of which have been discussed, that the Afrikan Master Student MUST AVOID AT ALL COST
#1. DON’T allow SUPERFICIALITIES to keep You from Your People. (graduate vs. undergraduate, athlete vs. non-athlete, professional vs. non-professional, middle class vs. lower class, north vs south, east vs west, Man vs. Woman, science vs. liberal arts, Democrat vs. Republican, Greek vs. non-Greek, Caribbean vs United States of Amerika).
#2. DON’T allow Yourself to develop an ELITIST MENTALITY.
#3 DON’T allow the Enemy(European Colonist) to DIVIDE and CONQUER You.
#4. DON’T allow the Enemy(European Colonist) to PICK and CHOOSE Your Leaders.
#5. DON’T become a SLAVE to Money or Position.
#6. DON’T allow the Enemy(European Colonist) or Yourselves to USE, ABUSE, or MISTREAT You or Your People.
#7. DON’T allow the Enemy(European Colonist) to SET Your Standards goals or Objectives.
#8. DON’T allow the Enemy(European Colonist) to DEFINE and SELECT Your Ideology(Highest Values).
#9. DON’T become a SLAVE to Material Things.
#10. DON’T allow the Enemy(European Colonist) or Yourselves to DRUG or LURE You to Sleep(cousin of death).
#11. DON’T allow the Enemy(European Colonist) or Yourselves to DEMEAN or DEHUMANIZE Your Heritage.
#12. DON’T ACCEPT Something simply because the Enemy(European Colonist) says You SHOULD.
#13. DON”T allow the Enemy(European Colonist) to DEFINE and REPRESENT Your Interest.
#14. DON’T work AGAINST Your People.
#15. DON’T MISTREAT Your Brother’s and Sister’s(People).
#16. DON’T promote VALUES and PRACTICES that are ANTI-Afrikan
#17. DON’T choose INDIVIDUALISM over Peoplehood and Community.
#18. DON’T DISCUSS Family Problems in Public or with the Enemy(European Colonist).
#19. DON’T celebrate EUROPEAN COLONIST HOLIDAY’S.
#20. DON’T allow the Enemy(European Colonist) to DICTATE Your Methods for Struggle.
#21. DON’T support things that DISRUPT Unity, Organization, and Peoplehood.
#22. DON’T allow Yourself to become APATHETIC, APOLITICAL, PASSIVE or PESSIMISTIC.
#23. DON’T act on EMOTION.
#24. DON’T allow the Enemy(European Colonist) to DISARM You.
#25. DON’T do things that IMPEDE(Jeopardize) the struggle.
#26. DON’T REJECT Values, Lifestyles, and Traditions that Make Your Culture Unique.
#27. DON’T SUPPORT Artist, Businesses, Politicians, Organizations, or Institutions that EXPLOIT the Afrikan Community in this Country or Abroad.
#28. DON’T BETRAY Your Brother’s and Sister’s(People).
#29. DON’T practice INEQUALITY, SEXISM, or CLASSISM.
#30. DON’T PATRONIZE Corporations, Institutions, or Organizations that VIOLATE Afrikan Interest.
#31. DON’T do the DIRTY WORK of the Enemy (European Colonist).
#32. DON’T run from ADVERSITY.
#33. DON’T be AFRAID to Fight Back.
#34. DON’T DEFEAT Yourself or Your People before the Battle even begins.
#35. DON’T EXPLOIT Your People.
My dad always told me as a kid to dap up the tough guys then go be with a woman. Lol
#He told you right. That's how I play it for good, except I rap up the tough guys and go be with God.# 😁💪🏾💪🏾. # Christopher Wallace 2 aka Finnis Don King 🔥
Holding up the 6...stuttering...a part of the industry. One day they'll let Pac be in peace and keep him out there mouth..or maybe not. Most talked about person ago these years later
Holding up the 6?
@Paul Castellano Simp
@Paul Castellano 🤣🤣
Tupac wasn't a thug or a gangsta if we being honest. He let Suge Knight influence his persona.
Dude u trolling
Tupac always said he wasn’t a “gangsta” but you can’t take away the heart he had. He had more heart than some of these gang bangers.
He was a REAL ONE way before he met Suge. He's said he wasn't a gangsta, but yes he was a THUG. That's why Suge respected Pac, he was a REAL MAN.
He saying some real stuff man... Pac should've kept them at a distance and not get too close with the bloods on death row
facts man
He was too busy tattooing MOB on his forearm and bullying people with them.
2pac should've never Joined Piru
When he was with the crips he was Protected because at that time in the 90s crips dominated LA
And had many alies and not A lot of beef amongst each other
Yeah crips beef with crips but 80s 90s it wasn't as bad crip on crip now
Now in LA everybody hate each other
Piru vs piru, blood vs bloods, crips vs crips, everybody against Hoovers, mexicans against blacks and themselves.
When Pac got with Pirus/Bloods
He became aggressive amd angry
And more paranoid
And ready to mash
Because Pirus and bloods is outnumbered in LA and had to be crazy and ready to fight or kill
Becoming Piru was 2pac worst mistake
this man rite here says everything 3 an 4 TIMES i can't take it I'M OUT.
Facts. Tough dude treatments
Tupac got everything he asked for when he walked that walked...
That fight was the open door for that shooting but Anderson was hot withs the feds to many police around Tupac was community activists simple and planned
Mob James said that he knew that the Southside crips would be in Vegas that night.. I don't know how he knew that but that's what he said in his first Vlad interview. He then goes on to say that he seen them at the club 662 so he proceeded to alert Suge and the rest of Death Row.
My Point is Orlando was out there that night to kill anybody associated with death row! (Pac included) Tupac running up on him had nothing to do with his death. Because if I'm looking to get someone I'm gonna try to get the biggest fish regardless of what happened before hand.
I just look at it like this... You can't believe every word a person says on this situation. Because sometimes they don't even know they damn self what happened.
2pac was a grown man! All the sense in the world but did apply it and died with hate in his heart over what really...🤔🤔
Pac was a kid
You can’t say don’t get involve with gang activity when that shit is around 24/7
Extremely intelligent man
Melle Mel thinks and believes Orlando was the trigger man based on his opinion
Facts prove Orlando was now where near where Tupac was shot !!!
Research is knowledge!!!
Real talk!💯
The outlaws said it wasn’t Anderson
But what do they know lol
It’s was big Dre Orlando’s right hand man.
He's right
Mele Mel needs to change his name to mele studder 😳😮.
to the title: CLEARLY
Knew This Was Pure💎Facts ✔
I want to believe it was just that simple.. but all the weird stories and strange witness statements, even the name of their posthumous albums, raises questions. That could've even been intentional but then you gotta ask why? Just to sell records? It's been over 20yrs and no new music has come out from either of them in quite awhile but the theories are still coming....so what's the real reason?
All facts and it's okay to say suge was Pac downfall cause honestly before suge I liked Pac music much better it was poetry and suge changed Pac character into hate when before Pac was all for the black community and trying to make a difference and I'm not saying that he wasn't doing the same with death row but death row was all negatively and Pac was so intelligent that he could've done much more even without death row.
2 pac was around gang members his whole career
Tupac death was cointelpro.
Orlando killed Pac, the FBI had nuthin to do with his death
you delusional
hahahaahhaah the fbi killed tupac hahahahahahha.... right so the FBI killed tupac but all of his blood homies and suge just gonna stay quiet and not tell anyone.... :D LOL... they got so much respect for the police right
stop it man!
Orlando Anderson didn't get jumped at the MGM Grand
Shout out to Melle Mel
Tupac was in flight or plight. He chose plight as it resembled loyalty. It doesn’t take rocket science. Weirdos will speculate senseless blabs.
Orlando Anderson partook in the setup as a pawn but he 100% did not pull the trigger. Bountry and Pac were legit the only 2 of many actually getting it in with Orlando. Orlando and Suge were P I C. Nah Mell, with Pac it was a set up and it wasn’t that simple bc gang bangers recognize bruh. He was a baby. Biggie truly patterned himself after PAC from the fashion to black military mind. Tupac was a pure artist and prodigy.