Strange Airflow
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
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The NZXT H500 sports a slightly confusing airflow profile. At first glance, you'd think it was a "hotbox." Our testing confirms that this is not the case (no pun intended). Let's investigate and discuss why!
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Strange.
If anyone should know...
Hmm.
xD
i loled haha
Is it reliable to buy from that source, please confirm. will the windows support exist if we run into issues?
Oh dear god those fans in the background destroy my peripheral vision, lol.
Spinning fan migraine
Those are almost hypnotic to watcch.
EXACTLY what I was thinking. I actually just built a system putting an emphasis of having as little of this RGB bullshit as possible. It's an eyesore. Surprisingly, the motherboard was the hardest one to find RGB-free.
@@BroodingPsycho ur system prob look boring
@@IpadLaser Who cares, it's supposed to work.
I did a similar video, showing that adding intake fans don't benefit the thermal performance in the NZXT H500 and it caused outrage.
I imagine many people follow NZXT's photo of putting AIO there as intake
@@sjneow nzxt has a cult following
ah yes, NZXT stans
@@sjneow what?
@@Yedrellow123 Back in my small channel days. 😂
Use smoke to show the flow, would be very valuable
Smoke can damage components. Ive seen people using ecigs to blow vapor in and while it looks cool, vapor leaves a very sticky residue.
@@alexanderchampagne3033 using a little incense to visualize intake/exhaust flow would be harmless
Alexander Champagne wator vapor doesnt leave any residue
@@crisisrogue8286 water and electronic dont work that well together..
Yes not necessarily smoke ofcourse, as it has little particles that stick everywhere, but indeed some harmless vapor without additives.
I love this design.
I got the all black H510 with a black Hyper 212 Evo, no lights, no RGB. It's just a black, minimalistic box.
Why so your graphics card having a seizure in the backround
BedwarsBeast12 i think it has to do something with the refresh rate on the camera
frame rate of video / shutter speed of camera not synced
Camera
Time flies soo fast, i remember being in the 9th grade watching your vids and now i'm finishing school and now your channel is huge. Love the Video and Audio Quality ❤️ Keep up Greg ❤️
what about now?
ok yes, adding or changing the fans does not help to get lower temps, but what about dust? it minimizes the dust accumulation inside the case?
hope someone reads my comment even this video was uploaded a year ago u.u
Agreed no noticeable temp difference when I placed intake/exhaust fans on my h500. I still left it there just for the rgb lol :P
Carl Spencer Go finally a straightforward answer in the comments
@@jasonodine you think the outcome would be the same for h510
So what do you recommend we do to improve the cooling? I have a stock cooler for the Ryzen 7 3700x and just have the stock exhaust fans in the case.
have you came to any conclusions? I’m also facing the same problem with the same case. Does an AIO at the front make a significant difference? Because that’s the only reasonable option I’m seeing.
@@kyleweiss3793 Yes, i added a 140 mm fan to replace the stock 120 and pt the stock 120 to blow out the front. I dropped like 5 degrees
Me: Adding 2 intake fans to my H510 front panel
Also me: Click on this video with screwdriver in my hand
Me later: depressed :(
I feel that, I just bought a H510 and noctua fans. :/
@@cesarfpv715 You can still mount your noctua fans instead of the stock ones
@@WuizGaming yeah ik, I'm going to have all 4 in there anyways even if there is little improvement.
Its not bad if you tape up the little gap above the top fan in the front!
Same
What if you increase the size of the 2 stock exhaust fans? (and not install the intakes).
JKeetonKnives the rear hole is only 120 mm fan support
i'm happy that you did this. i have the same case and came to the same conclusion.
i was hoping the front intake fans would make a difference, but they didn't.
@James Harper so i should set them all to exhaust ?
frederik meire lmk if u set them all to exhasut
@@SandyFruitBasket This is late af but my rear and top fans are set to exhaust and my aio is also set to exhaust, but i do have a msi duke 2070 oc with 3 fans. My components stay under 60 degrees under heavy loads but i still worry that there are no intake even with the 3 fans from the gpu.
@@frederikmeire no, balancing is always best! Especially because you want to keep the dust out ;)
That thumbnail is absolutely meme worthy
Thank you 😘
bro thats pretty cringe bro. you gonna lose subscriber bro
I rly hate that I saw these videos AFTER I ordered my front fans. They're on their ways unwelcomed... ; A ;
Same man
Same.. literally watched this the day after I got them
What lens is it? A Tamron 28-75 F2.8?
I find videos about optimizing airflow really interesting.
Me: epileptic. Pc in the background: ABOOMALAKAKA. Me: REEEEEEEEE
Lmao I was looking for this comment
Allot of people miss the front botom intake vent with dust filtering.I love my h500, its very minimalistic, The air flow keeps my temps way down, with an air cooler cpu is at 68c gpu is 68c max. both with overclclocks.. for 65 bucks, with tempered glass... I just love this case.... plus painting the cable bar and doing some cool vinyl work or chassis painting... also great. also the front panel fans help push allot more air over the VRM's.. cheers!! love your vids bro!
Agreed my dude, i love my h500i
I would imagine having the exhaust go through the radiator on the front with an aio to be not that good. My reasoning for this is because like car radiators they use the air that is being pulled in through the fins to help cool the liquid. So if you are pushing out warm or hot air through the radiator it would make it less effective. Though I could be wrong.
yeah basically you are heating up the radiator with warm air as much as heat is being pushed out by the air itself, the actual ratio of how much you are cooling vs heating up the radiator would be important to know btu very hard to test because of the variables involved, every radiator would behave differently
Wish I could’ve seen you run this with an actual AIO just so I can get an idea of the temps for both the cpu and gpu. I was thinking that an AIO would actually make gpu temps increase because it would overall make the ambient air hotter, but you recommended running the aio fans in exhaust and that made me really curious. I’m running a 2700x with a stock cooler in the H500 and I’m really debating on what kind of after market cooler I should buy. Great video!
Oof that is an awesome lens
But what is the name of the lenses?
@@TheSlyfoxVI It's Sony, and a zoom lens, so I'm going to take a random guess and say it's a 16-35. It's expensive like he said.
Yeah, I'm guessing 16-35mm too. There's a few, and they start at a little over $1,000 and go over $2,000.
Having just downsized to the h200, I'd be very interested to see this test redone in that case, as intake fans are much closer to all components. Thanks Greg!
Ross Martin can you tell me if the Airflow and thermals are good for your configuration ? Beacuse I want to buy this case but I don’t know if the Airflow is good ;)
@@dawaane Hi there, I've been super happy with the h200. Thermals are great with a completely populated case of silent wings 3 120mm fans running under 1000 rpm at all times. If you Google Ryzen Phantom ITX 2019, you'll find my build on Pcpartpicker.com. Thanks
@@rossmpostpro Are the two extra fans worth it? More importantly, are the be quiet fans worth it? I was thinking of just getting some arctics that have high CFM
@@kaiserd9343 hi mate, I've only ever had all the fan positions populated so can't honestly say if it's better with or without. It was a super tight fit though with the Dark Rock Pro 4. Here's my pcpartpicker page: pcpartpicker.com/b/kc8Ycf
Thanks!
Thanks for this video. I just purchased the H510 for a build & have been reading/watching some videos on what to do with heat in this case. This video was a HUGE help!!
I wish you had tried putting stronger fans in the exhaust positions and seeing if that helps vs stock
What if you put the 2 noctua fans as exhaust? Non of the testing showed any upgrades just downgrades and no change. I know it’s not the point but it definitely solidifies the negative is better argument.
how would you set up an aio up front to get the best air-flow results?
nEgAtIvE pReSsUrE
inb4 *_DUST WILL FLOOD YOUR PC_* comments.
@@GregSalazar dust to dust ashes to ashes.
Just like negative mass (weight) of quantum mechanics.
i mean...can you say it's not true?
@@stonecat676 This case is entirely sealed off and the only places where are air could creep in are the intentional intakes that are filtered. You dont want negative pressure on a case thats made of plastic panels clipped to a metal frame with many spots air could creep through.
Do you think changing the stock exhaust fans with, for example, the chromax ones, would improve temps at least a little?
I don't know if you read comments, but something I would really like to see that no other reviewers seems to have accurately done is a high end fan comparison. I would like to see Noiseblocker Eloops, Be Quiet SW3 and PW2, Noctua NF-F12 and NF-A12x25 and NF-S12a, Corsair ML120 Pro. All with dB, temp and airflow comparisons. I haven't been able to find any up to date comparisons :(
Google silentpcreview. You want to know the airflow, rpm, and noise. I recommend gentile typhoon for radiators (although I believe they are good case fans as well), they have high static pressure (even more than noctua) and are among the best when it comes to noise as well. Other than that you cant go wrong with noctua. The reset I dont even bother with, no point when we have other better options like gentile typhoon or noctua.
Does adding the front fans reduce dust build up?
will adam no it will actully add more
This is easily one of the best case reviews I've ever seen
Jay proved the hottest component in your system is the RGB SSD
@Calamity yeah lol
Maybe but i don't think it is the RGB thats making it so hot. Lots of MBs have heat sinks for M.2 drives now and some come with thier own heat sinks. SSDs run hot without RGB, touch any RGB thats been running for hours that doesn't have an other heat source so maybe a light strip or your case power light they probs won't even be as hot as your skin because they are so low power nowadays.
Voi Vod no it wasn’t an m.2 ssd, it was a sata 2.5” ssd
@@voivod6871 it was the rgb, it even throttled the ssd, infact when they were turned off, the ssd worked fine
10:30 If you have fluid going at 10 m/s at the intake, then the fluid move at 10 m/s at the exhaust, otherwise you won't have the same amount of the fluid going in and out (assuming the section of the pipe is unchanged). You might have pressure losses, but no speed losses
change in pressure results in a change in speed - bernoulli's principle :)
Thanks for the discounted legit Windows 10 pro key.
*thanks dude.. i have this case and was considering on getting additional fans.. till is saw this vid. I'll just replace the 2 stock fans with the same exhaust setting :)*
Jay Agustin I was going to do the same thing once I use this case in my next build, what fans would you recommend? There’s so much debate about what are the best case fans
@@tinocabral4201 nah Noctua usually makes the best fans (imo and many other opinions) but they're ugly and usually expensive
great info dude, I'll be consider it when choosing next case.
Exhausting out the front when using an AIO seems like a bad idea, because of all the fluid dynamics you mentioned in the video. It would be more efficient for air to be pulled in through the narrow vent then to be pushed into a flat price of steel and expecting it to eventually be pushed out of the narrow slot.
With the 4 fans, is the front fans being ineffective because the case cooling is already maximized? Also, the narrow slot would probably have more breathability for the intake fans then some of the other cases where there is even smaller narrow slots beside the front panel.
Good video Greg!,
Question regarding the fractal design Define C.
How do you suggest the airflow build? I have this case with 1 intake AF140 and the case fans i'm using them as exhaust: 1 rear and 1 top.
I got good temps but I want to know if there is another config to lower more the temperature :P
Cheers!
Lel, he just liked the comment and didnt respond
@@AnotherUA-camUser581 Haha thats what i thought
The piping analog doesn’t really work here. In a closed(no leakage) piping system, the velocities will be the same at both ends, assuming the cross-sections at those points are the same. The friction due to piping length and the bends won’t slow anything down, rather it would necessitate a higher head pressure to make sure the fluid makes it all the way through.
It’s negative pressure, GN also agrees with Greg here. Though NZXT should consider a top 240/280mm radiator mount for the next iteration of this case, would be nice.
In my case It IS a hotbox. Got this case for my new build (now 7 days old) R9 3900X and ASUS ROG STRIX RX5700 XT. With Stock cooler the cases fans where overwhelmingly loud but it was to be expected with this monstrous CPU. I Put my AiO and mounted it in front (where is only possible) making things even worst than before. Liquid temp kept rising over 60c and the PC was shutting down (through the default AiO configuration to do so), even from cold boot (after letting the PC to cool off for an hour or so) the temp of the AiO liquid was 43c. The Case was quite hot (not warm) to the touch. CPU temps >65 on idle, 85+ on Cinebench R20 (x1 pass). I left the side panel open, since the case does not have any front panel to remove and voila. Liquid Temp less than 23c after a cold boot, CPU 40-43c on idle etc.
Chromax to replace stock fans on the exhaust follow up video?
WayStedYou couldn’t agree more, a missed opportunity to show the benefits of better quality fans.
@@TheCupra1985 He is still Learning^^
Or be quiet! Shadow wings 2
@James Harper God bless you^^
@James Harper What results did you get from the upgrade?
if I put 240ml liquid cooling in the front for the CPU, is it better? i hope you answer me
"Put that 50 dollars towards a graphics card or a cpu " lies everyone knows that in order to have 1000 fps more in games and more power u need more rgb
So would it be better, worse, or make no difference if I remove the bracket that’s suppose to hold the front fans?
Steve noticed when he tested this case that the top exhaust had a useless mesh dust filter that, when removed, slightly improved temps.
I've got this case with stock config and have noticed some dust buildup. I was thinking of adding a couple Corsair SP140s to have static pressure in that crappy intake situation and hopefully catch dust in the filters. If there was no difference in temps, would you advise this purely for dust reduction? And I guess aesthetics as well.
If I'm not mistaken and saw it correctly one main reason as to why having two exhaust fans at the top/rear in this case is better than having two intake fans in the front is that air not only is being pulled through the front of the case but additionally through the pci brackets under the graphics card.
Lovely video, Greg! Could you do the same with Fractal's R--series cases?
I have the h500. I have 4 fans. The top and rear exhaust. The front 2 intake. I taped up the gap at the top of the top 2 fans so it pulls air in. Without taping that gap, it doesn't pull air in the front, it just pulls air around the front and side, not into the front. I have a 120mm aio on a 10700k @5.1 all core oc and a RTX2070 super. Average temps during long gaming sessions is about 60 deg C for the CPU and GPU. Love the channel Greg ❤ .
Me thinking of perfectly putting 4 RGB fans in this bad boy : ಠಿヮಠ
I have discovered that this is the same with the H700. It is useless to put fans up front as it does nothing for cooling. I tried to Noctua IPPC as front intake and even at 3000 RPM there is no change to GPU temps. My CPU is cooled by a top mounted AIO temps aren't much different with that either. I am completely confused as to how this case does its thing.
What if you put AIO on the front panel to cool CPU? Would that get temperatures to be higher or lower?
Would you suggest replacing the stock fans with better, quieter ones but keep them both as exhaust and just keep the stock ones as back up fans? I'm planning on buying the H510 soon and want to know if I should spend and extra 30 or so dollars on a couple of Noctuas.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I just ordered this case and was wondering about fan configuration. I was worried, but an less worried now. I can't wait.
I have an H500, but it’s from Cooler Master. Which has the best airflow from any case with 200mm fans...
Conflicting, I have this exact same case (H500 white version) and I added two 140mm fans as front intake(corsair ML140 white version to go with the case) and it drops the temp. of my entire build by 4-5 degree. So I wouldn't say the front intake is entirely pointless in this case. My CPU is 26°c on idle with front intake fans compared to 31°c on idle with no intake fans. I haven't test it out at full load yet but I assume if it improve temps on idle, it'll improve temps on full load as well. I use automatic PWM fan curves sets by my asus motherboard.
If you watch Gamers Nexus Vidor on the h500, you'll find thag adding two front intake and will decrease CPU temperatures, but it will increase GPU temperatures.
@@ImaSpacePotato I've seen that. However my GPU is at 28°c on idle and never goes over 63°c when gaming at full load. So I don't really see a problem since my GPU is designed to go all the way up to 80°c. I find the best setup for this case for me is a dual 140mm front intake and a 120mm exhaust at the back and a 140mm exhaust on top. Also replace the stock fans that came with the case. That stock fan is trash in my opinion. It's loud and doesn't produce good enough airflow.
What build did you have in the PC? I have to do something for mine as well. I was really getting tired of people saying two fans on the back are fine cause they aren't. My max temp was 85c for my ryzen 5 2600x I think the gpu "RX 580 8gb" was around 76-80c or something I am not really 100% sure on the gpu temp atm I would have to test again. I mean I cleaned the case a few times already but its still just as bad so I am getting a new cooler for the cpu cause these max temps are way too much. I assume with those temps you have a better cooler on? I am going to look at these fans you bought for the front. I am just glad I finally found a person on here with a different experience. I mean maybe the case runs just fine when temps are low like that for some and cooling it with extra fans does minimal difference but at higher temps like me I am willing to bet the temps go down 8-10c. I mean I don't think most of these reviewers compare that anyways most the time you see its high 50c or low 60c. I would of thought maybe it was the gpu heat going on the cpu making it that high but I think both parts are just generating too much heat. So hopefully this new cooler I get lowers my temps enough then I will test after and maybe pick up those fans you listed as well. I mean one thing I learned if you are running that stock cooler from amd the max temps are way higher than these temps reviewers do. I like to see them test with stock amd coolers instead just to compare.
Some cases are designed for a negative pressure coefficient, this seems to be one of them, however most of the negative pressure coefficient cases I have seen get beaten out in thermal performance by positive pressure coefficient cases of the same or similar cost.
i'm concerned about the GPU temperature...
same i have this pc case and the backplate of my gpu gets really hot, the ram also gets hot too
@@Jeremy-vh6iq I don't do any rendering or heavy workload editing but with an additional two intakes at the front and a 30 series card I have no Temp issues
I watched this right after moving my top fan as intake to the front.
I have back pain and it sucked to do that but I got it done.
Now I have to switch it back.
God damn it.
Fair. I love my H500i. I did move mine to the front simply for aesthetics. It really doesn't matter in common (arguable) use, which brings me to my observation. Most of us do not run our PC's in 5th gear wide open. It was good to see the temps at load but it would also have been good to see some temp readings at idle with both fan configs and some examples of common (arguable) everyday use from gaming to maybe streaming... maybe even video editing and rendering. In my opinion, if you are not running your PC at heavy loads in this case, it does not matter. Otherwise, if you are your opinion makes sense to leave them in the stock config.
I think a lot of people run their pcs in 5th gear honestly, I'd say most pc builds out there are for gaming, at least the people who care to watch these kinds of videos are probably building for gaming.
Adding fans in the front may not meaningfully improve thermals, however wouldn't reduce dust buildup? I'm currently using the h500 stock configuration in my current rig, and it seems to accumulate dust faster than my previous. I think air is being pulled in from the back, so wouldn't a neutral configuration prevent air from being pulled through the non-dust filtered vents?
Paladin George I put one fan on the front and one in the back, it decreased dust building up
@@BajarnoB Good to know! Thanks!
"airflow" mechanical ENG subjects flashbacks.
Just hearing the word "flow" makes me think of... Thermal-Fluids Engineering I. *shiver* Thankfully, don't have to take the second one for my degree.
do you mean fluid dynamics and transport phenomena ?
I mostly remember it from fluid but i took 2 thermodynamics classes , one semester to go.
@@slawter1342 I think you've strayed into chemical engineering lol
Best option is to put an 280mm AIO (nzxt 62 or Corsair 115 pro) in front and replace the top fan with a 140mm fan. The gpu temp drops between 7-10 degrees! Have an GTX Asus Strix with tripple fans - thats the optimum you can get with this case. Greetings from Austria (origin of noctua)
Helge Schneider What do your gpu temps sit at?
Helge Schneider Is the AIO in intake or exhaust?
I'd like to see a comparison of having an AIO up front with both intake and exhaust setup. i have mine up front set to intake but i wonder if having all fans exhaust in the case would make a difference. I could try it myself but i'm too lazy lol
Did you ever find out the answer to this friend?
@@V_2077 I wonder too lol, im thinking about putting a 240mm aio in the front of my h510 and I wanna know which way round to face the fans - exhaust towards the back or intake from the front (either way it will block intake airflow to the GPU)
Left this comment on your H500 build video: After watching the Gamers Nexus review on this case, I would recommend not installing any intake fans. The 2 exhaust fans in the rear is to create negative pressure within the case and will then suck in air through the rear gpu brackets. I use this setup and after testing, my strix vega64 temps dropped by about 5-8 degrees celcius under load.
If I put an AIO, will it affect the negative pressure?
waiting for Greg to say he's giving away that Overwatch PC
I think he likes it too much to give it away 😃
I mean there’s a pc case for it
Have you run a test comparing stock fans in their original location vs. alternatives in the same position? Other than noise I'm curious how much of an impact it would have.
Wait, so zoomed out, and you speak at a reasonable volume level?.. nonsensical!
Well of course two additional 140mm fans in the front won't do anything. The bottom one will at max redirect the airintake through the pcie brackets and push the air out -> no/less dust in your gpu.
The top front fan has a huge gap up above. Given, that the dust filters and the small gaps create quite the resistance, the a great portion of the air will just loop around.
Intresting to sample would be having two 280mm fans in the front, since they don't leave any gaps.
I did this in my build (in also have the case) and I placed 2 180mm up front as intake, 2 140 in back and top as exhaust - all bq silent wings 3.
As a CPU cooler I have a dark rock 4.
I set the back and the top front fan CPU temperature dependent to ensure nice straight air flow.
Since I have a strix rtx 2070 I decided to hook up the GPU external fan headers to the top and bottom front. The top is just to compensate for heat production from the GPU backside and what ever finds its way to the CPU, the front bottom fan to give the GPU some fresh air from the filtered front.
In idle I leave my fans at ~25%.
The 180mm also move more air at lower speeds, which also partially compensates for the limited intake up front.
I don't have the time for measuring different fan configs and Suff, BUT I did manage to get the air to ALWAYS exhaust air through the back and the top. Since my PC can only stand in the corner under my desk this was especially important to me.
And it keeps my ryzen 5 (oc 4GHz) and my rtx 2070 strix oc cool (with my fan curves) when stressing either (my under-desk-corner gets warm), or I can stress both when it stands free. (Furmark rog for gpu and prime95 for CPU, both ~1h)
To further ensure the "GPU-airflow" without air recycling, I'm thinking to add a plate of some kind to prevent airflow through the psu-shroud (it has holes). Would also be an experiment worthwhile, but yeah... Time and stuff.
I own this case. Thanks for giving me a good reason to go back in and reconfigure it ;)
what
How did you change it? I also have one
@@frappel09 Honestly, I just have one Noctua fan exhausting at the back, and one intake at the front top spot. I also have an NZXT cooling bracket attached to my GTX 1080, with a fan and radiator (Corsair h55) at the front bottom spot. It seems to work fine.
@@gramblor1 ah very nice, have been considering changing those stock case fans so thanks for the response 👍🏻
This is fascinating. I recently built an H500 system and put in a set of fans in the front. Guess I'll have to tell the co-worker who is using it to take those fans out 😆
might aswell leave them in. they will help with positive pressure to keep dust out of the PC even if they dont help cool the interior much compared to the rear and upper fan configuration
I just installed the Cable Mod vertical mount in my h500 and the cpu increased slightly but the gpu is getting thermal throttled in certain games (Aourus 2080 ti Extreme). Im curious if i add two front intake fans if I will get better results. If I try it I’ll let you know.
Unless you are water cooling vertical mount is basically always worse
@@WayStedYou unless in an open system like a P3 from ThermalTake
^ ^ ^ . It's always worse to have vertical mount GPUs cuz GPUs take the air from the space the coolers are looking at and when that's glass in most cases...there's literally no air to intake so it thermals alot. If you got cash, either go with watercooling or get custom brackets and air coolers that go over the GPU itself(or swap them entirely) to look a little bit sleeker when having them in horizontal mount. Eexactly like NZXT made their own minimalistic motherboard...if you're looking for that.
@@dduleyt Generally, the cable mod vertical bracket shouldn't affect temps by more than a degree or too, since it doesn't choke the GPU, like case vetical brackets do (by pressing them against the side panel.)
And, in certain cases (like the Lian Li PC-011D), it actually makes the GPU cooler by a couple of degrees.
@@autumn5592 It just generaly depends of the position. The patents in the first versions of cases that had the brackets near the side-panel were really clogging it. However, yeah it could cool a little bit better since the air-flow goes alot better through the aluminium heatsink if it's placed along the air-flow where it just passes through.
Here's something i found by accident on H500 case -- if you put one front fan IN and one front fan OUT one pushes air through the other in an unexpected way due small front air chamber. Might want to test it. The rpm of the OUT fan will accelerate more than the IN fan even though both are same rpm, if you put the IN on ontop to push toward the CPU fan, bottom one OUT.
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I kinda shorta screwed up by Motherboard then shorted out my i9 9900k trying to fix it, I reordered my $400 board but had to get a Pentium Gold as a temp CPU until I can afford to get another 9900k since I also still need to get my GPU which is also going to be quite pricey. Not having to pay that extra quarter thousand is really nice. You earned as sub today :)
how did you screw up your motherboard im building a pc based off youtube videos and dont wanna do the same
@@pmbu Kedi, just make sure you look over the manuals, and maybe try to find a few build pictures online using the same board so you can feel reassured you're plugging things into the right areas and you basically have wires going everywhere the build you're looking at online does. It's very straight forward and simple, you really shouldn't have any issues. You can use a site like pcpartpicker to find photos of builds using the same parts as you :)
I am glad that I chose a Corsair Carbide 200r for my personal rig. Plenty of Air Flow Options Even if the Front Panel looks obstructive the fan in the front is pretty capable of pulling in air from the side vents even then it's got vents everywhere...
I've got one on the way for a case upgrade to my vintage Windows 7/i5-760 system...I have lots of spare fans I need to use too...
@@spyderlogan4992 Got to wonder why a Vintage System? When it can accommodate a fully tricked out modern build? Unless your using it to play older titles?
@@Zacarriss I have a i7-8700k/z390 mobo/32gb 3200 ram on my newest. this Win-7 system(bought new 2010) is retired that I'm keeping for sentimental reasons; not gaming. I just feel the need for a new case..thanks for asking.
@@spyderlogan4992 Ahh I see... Good Luck... Just as a note, what I got in mine is a Ryzen 2600x/B450m/16gb 3000mhz DDr4 and a GTX 1070... Twin 860 Evo's 500gb and a 2tb Seagate Barracuda...
The Limiting Factor is actually the GTX 1070... But not really...
My board despite being a Micro has plenty of upgrades left I have yet to populate the two other Dimms and can slot one more drive, either an M.2 or Sata...
Honestly the only CON I have found is that Populating that last Sata Lane Deactivates the M.2 or vice-versa... Seems to be a Con with Gigabyte Boards... Beyond that it was 75$ so ehh not going to lose any sleep over that... Seeing as the Rest is totally fine for what I want. Probably Swap it for a new board when Zen 3 is a thing or when Intel is within my money standards again, overall 850$ Bucks for a Good 1440p box that nails it at 1080p and can get serious work done.
Yea but RGB fans increases FPS by at least 10% pr fan!
Wouldn't you see more dust build-up without the 2 front intake fans?
Where did you get that wallpaper?
I want It. I NEED IT!!!
www.reddit.com/r/wallpapers/comments/9cl9vy/doodlin_38402160/
@@Cerus98 Thanks a lot man.
Just realised the pure picture is quiet small and it was just duplicated. Might create my own with things from my own life
The problem with negative pressure isnt that the dust filter needs to be hefty. The problem is air will get sucked in through literally any tiny little gap left over, around your dust filters. No hefty dust filter will help.
This is my case! I am so glad I found this video because I was wondering the same thing!
Hi , I’m planing to buy one, how is your config?
@@renzoarana3018 What do you mean by config?
I have the H500 with a 240mm AIO Rad in the front and a side mounted GTX 1080. At first I turned the fans around and had them pulling in air from the top, and exhausting it through the Rad in the front, like you mentioned. After noticing my 3-fan GPU reaching 80-85 degrees (surely due to mounting it sideways), I watched the NZXT installation videos. They recommended leaving the fans exhausting out the top. So now I pull in air from the front, push through the radiator, and vent out the top. I noticed my CPU (with a 1 GHz overclock) was about 3 degrees cooler, and my side mounted GPU was about 7-10 degrees cooler under heavy load. Didn't make much sense to me either, but their original configuration was actually the best one...For me, anyways.
nah looks cool as shit
Greg, have you done the same testing with the H500i? Curious to see if the added cost is actually warranted or not. If not I may just stay with my s340 elite, which does a great job in the cooling department.
Not a upgrade infact it's not worth the $30 or so more than the regular H500
You can't get positive pressure in this case. Even with 140mm fans at the front there is a huge gap at the top preventing the front fans from actually pulling in the air.
They just kinda blow the existing air around. Now, if NZXT made a little plate to fill that gap, we'd be in business.
I've been rocking the S340 elite for years but after moving 3 times it's definitely seen better days. It might be time to upgrade to one of these
Congratulations, you found out what gamers nexus found when this case was released
GN also talks about how negative pressure will pull air in from everywhere it can: mesh PCI brackets, PSU filter, etc. SS is acting like the front intake is the ONLY place air can enter the system.
I tested having the CPU water cooling radiator/fan (Corsair 1 fan design) on the back; on the top; on the front. It does the best on the front, but the numbers are only marginally better . The test was done using GTX 1660ti, which is cool running card in overall.
Using large/powerful video cards like XFX ATI 5700XT (non blower design) and similar sized gets kinda messed up and the water cooling fan placement is important. IN that scenario, we need good exhaust fans on top and the back and don't want the radiator anywhere else but the front. The large graphics card fills the case with hot air pretty quickly during gaming and the exiting hot air will not cool the CPU (and the water cooling radiator) efficiently, so we must place the radiator on the front so it has access to exterior/cooler air. The hot air created by the graphics card also gets stuck inside the case without having those exhaust fans working efficiently and quickly, regardless what CPU cooling we use.
In a nutshell, I actually do not recommend this case for high end video cards - those large 3 fan designs, the space and the airflow of the NZXT design just inadequate for them. With mid range/low end cards like GTX 1660 or 1650, the case is great.
Some Mr fantastic length arms
I have this case (H510-same overall design) after watching this video, I moved over my to aftermarket front intake fans and replace them with the stock exhaust fans in the back and top. I also added a tiny CPU fan that came with my motherboard that I never got around to installing. Two less fans, my temperatures on my CPU and GPU are 10 to 12 celcius cooler. That's a huge win.
could you elaborate on this? (bare in mind I'm a noob and have this case)
Can I just say the 14 dollar windows key legit worked... so thanks
Careful, it may work at first but if the origin is non legit it can be rejected down the road.
@@TechNick94 If it wasn't legit, it wouldn't work in the first place. I've bought the last 3 Win 10 keys on eBay and they've both worked just fine. Been almost two years now. Paid less than $4/each for them.
if your cool with case modding you can either hammer out or cut the top and bottom lips on the removeable fan mounting bracket and take out that white bar that hides cables to fit a 280mm rad with a push pull configuration, my temps under load dont go over 40c
Keep up the wonderful videos
So would switching the stock NZXT fans out for premium fans in the exhaust config make any difference?
In noise level, for example noctua or be quiet fans(I know, I tested a lot of fans), performance wise it should be identical at the same rpm.
The top exhaust supports a 140 so you could upgrade size there as well.
Is there a big improvement between 120 and 140mm?
Damn, I can't wait for Computex!
I usually view case purchases as investments, as I will generally keep using them for 3-4 builds. I like to think of the amortized cost rather than just the initial, and a good case can keep benefiting you over a very long duration
Question/Clarification: My rear and top fans are both set to exhaust as normal, however I have the Kraken x52 installed with the 2 included fans mounted towards the front of the radiator (front side of the case) and they are set to intake so the air is blowing onto the radiator. Would it be more effective to reverse those to exhaust the heat out vs blowing cold air into the radiator?
Having a good balance between exhaust and intake helps keeping dust out ;)
One Thing I've done that always seemed to help is tape off space at the top in the front bracket at 8:05. The airflow from the fans will easily short cycle the hot air already inside the case, since the front side and bottom grille is so restrictive with the dust filter you gotta block off any other option the front fans might have to not pull air in through those front vent holes and filters, I don't really remember the name for the theory behind this but I think it might be called the Venturi effect
im sure you know alot about Hot Boxes
I own this case (black/red) and im very happy whit it. No air-flow problem at all. I use Arctic Cooling 280 AIO mounted in front.
I have a 240 aio at the front as intake. And top rear. Exhaust is that optimal?