"number 30, separate the art from the artist" the world is a cruel and unjust place. there is no harmony in the universe. the only constant is suffering. "number 28, forever by noah kahan" omg noah kahan! hi!
VERY interesting take on tackling 'Vultures I' on this show... but honestly, given the nature of Kanye's previous comments, I wholeheartedly agree. We should all indeed move on from him.
@@josephtafurI may like a few old songs from him at his time with UMG, but since I’m a Swifties and what he did is not really something we can easily move on from, let move on from him instead. No thank you.
@@enthusiastic_swiftie_13 As a Swiftie too, my main basis for boycotting Kanye isn't even down to how he's treated Taylor. Sure, I wouldn't be able to respect him after what he's said and done to her anyway, but frankly, there are far worse issues surrounding him and the way Mark called them out in this video, it really couldn't have been done much better.
@@josephtafur The interesting thing they brought up is how much "Bad Kanye albums can we take before we as a society say 'it is enough'. It'll be fascinating about the development of the whole Vultures series. I'll leave it there.
I don't think this is going to stop me from listening to his old stuff (maybe that's a problem) but I have no interest in engaging with the man he is now.
I know the past year has been massive for country music in the charts but I honestly didn’t expect Beyoncé to try it again in 2024. Not complaining though because ‘Texas Hold ‘Em’ is awesome! I love how versatile she’s always been with her sound. It’s now predicted to become her ninth #1 single on the Hot 100 next week and her 13th if you count her work with Destiny’s Child! 😊
I mean....... Girlie is a Texas girl, she is from the south so it shouldn't really be a surprise that she went this route. It also helps that I think both her songs were great! I'm excited for her country album this year!
I said it in your review refusing to listen to the new Kanye album, and I'll say it again despite the large amount of people telling me what an ignorant moron I am; I am 100% behind you on this one. Kanye has not made anything worth my attention in years and this new album wouldn't be worth my time either even if he wasn't openly promoting fascism. And if you Kanye defenders are seriously going to come at me again, I'm just going to have to use a much more succinct rebuttal to your bad faith arguments. "Your boos mean nothing, I've seen what makes you cheer!"
i really like the way you covered vultures this week. i think you made your points very well and made me think hard about what i think and feel about it. thank you for this video
Absolutely ecstatic to see ‘Yeah!’ back in the Top 20 following Usher’s incredible Superbowl Halftime Show. One of the most iconic hits of the 2000s and a definite highlight for me this week! ❤ I wish his new album had a bigger impact here but at least ‘Good Good’ is still having a really solid chart run.
I'm reminded of something that Todd in the Shadows said: It will never be easier for you to drop him from your life. Until he says or does something even worse and releases even worse music.
That's the thing with "bad guys" in the music industry and beyond. They see being controversial as "no press is bad press" and, as proven time and time again, people will pay closer attention if they do. Now, for most, they'll go too far and lose everything, but I feel the reason why Kanye, as well as CBrown and others like them, are able to get away with it is because of Todd's popstar theory: Artists who'll always have a dedicated fanbase vs. Artists who have fans as long as they have hits.
If I had a nickel for every time Spectrum Pulse used a piece on a Kanye album to instead ramble about the toxic culture and narratives that have surrounded him for years on end and said basically nothing about the album itself, I'd have two nickels (the first being with Donda back in 2021). Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
I don’t always agree with your opinions Mark but I will always respect the testicles you have to stand up against the most volatile and all around worst fandoms
I have tbh Mark I skipped the rant because I just don't care for Kayne to give him any more attention. Kayne or should say Ye should just go to therapy and take some medication. For all of us.
Congratulations to Noah on his first Top 10 hit! If only ‘Dial Drunk’ was able to get this big, but ‘Stick Season’ is still a good song. :) Not even going to comment on the other album that took over the Hot 100 this week other than I’m disappointed that it sent some truly fantastic songs like ‘White Horse’, ‘Strangers’ and ‘My Love Mine All Mine’ all recurrent! 😔
@@piran1807while Kenya Grace is really dangerous, her points is around 1100, which is way lower than the cut off line or the pushed back cut off line from 2023 thanks to Billboard’s stupid decision. Unless we end the year before more massive songs surpassing the points for Kenya, she could be not there with us
as a former Kanye stan, I unfortunately saw his downfall coming since 2018 at the very least. his antics during the TLOP era were concerning, but the album was still good and I was too young to think about the consequences. Ye is where the chaos stopped being fun and just became frustrating - especially since the music itself started feeling like unfinished drafts (Ghost Town is the last great Kanye song imo). Jesus is King where it finally hit me that Kanye was past the point of no return. I remember talking with other Kanye fans back in 2019 and telling them that if he keeps ignoring his mental health and surrounding himself with yesmen, he will go down a very dark direction. they all denied it, and this is not me trying to gloat about it, I’m just sad that my predictions came true. at this point, even if I were to completely ignore all the context behind 2024 Kanye (which I am not), I’d still be done with him, only because the music itself has become so mediocre - him trying to win over his fanbase by reminding them of the time he still made good music (the Hell of a Life sample comes to mind). it’s the Disney remake approach, and I find it just as hacky in Kanye’s case. I am sad that one of my favourite artists of all time is destroying his legacy not only through unashamed bigotry, but by also feeding the brainwashed hypebeast people slop that doesn’t hold a candle to the classics. but the world doesn’t stop with Kanye, so if he isn’t willing to change, I also don’t have to stay by his side and scramble to defend his actions. I might be done with him as an artist, but I still hope he will find actual inner peace someday. it was a long comment, I know, but thanks for reading.
The part about music - art in general, really - making people feel uncomfortable emotions feels, to me, like a reason why people of that stripe are pushing hard in favor of AI "art" - art can't make you feel emotions if there aren't any emotions in art to begin with.
I thinking Texas hold em will be the number one hit on the 2024 year end chart this looks like it will get a lot of radio support.. Unfortunately that crappy Kayne west song will probably have a long run in the top 10 as well.
Honestly, I really don't give a shit on what Kanye's been up to lately, so skipping out on reviewing his work was pretty nice. In fact, so far this year, I think this is the first time (since before following the charts in mid-2016) I felt so disconnected from modern pop music. I mean, almost NOTHING has caught my interest. Maybe because I spent the last few months listening to k-pop, but I'm not sure if that's the case because in early 2020, I went through a 2000's pop punk phase, and I also liked a lot of those (at the time) modern songs just fine! Right now, my favorite song in the top ten is Tate McRae's 'greedy', and I just feel out of touch.
Respect for the vultures stuff. I feel like everyone should have their opinion on what they should and shouldn’t do, just the fact that this person has been on a downhill spiral for the last few years, and it just so happens to be one of the most popular rappers of today so honestly it’s a lose lose situation for most reviewers, but I think you handled it the best out of people I’ve seen. Huge respect to that ❤
We can unanimously agree that the conservation about the biggest topics being pointed out for 'Vultures 1' and Kanye West, in general, was handled brilliantly. Still, I am frustrated with this brief impact that it left some interesting songs in the bubbling under for this week, so let's get into it. 1. Fuck Niggaz by Youngboy Never Broke Again (New) 2. Deeper Well by Kacey Musgraves (New) (Out of all the new singles that I'm upset got screwed by the Vultures 1 impact it would be this track, as I think it's a very good single for the upcoming album. I just hope it can potentially chart when the album drops.) 3. Paul Revere by Noah Kahan & Gregory Alan Isakov (Re-Entry) 4. Let's Go by Key Glock (-1) 5. Kissing Strangers by Usher (New) (It's a shame these two tracks got stuck here as they are among the best of the album.) 6. Ruin by Usher & Pheelz (+17) 7. Poison by Blake Roman, Sam Haft & Andrew Underberg (-5) 8. La Falda by Myke Towers (+10) 9. Make You Mine by Madison Beer (New) 10. Tu Name by Fuerza Regida (New) (The two Fuerza Regida tracks here are from an EP that they put out in the past tracking week and all of it impacted the Latin charts.) 11. All My Love by Noah Kahan (New) 12. Bulletproof by Nate Smith (New) (A new single pushed on country radio, presumably for a new album.) 13. Loser Baby by Andrew Underberg, Sam Haft, Keith David & Blake Roman (-12) 14. Luna by Feid & ATL Jacob (-4) 15. Call Your Mom by Noah Kahan With Lizzy McAlpine (Re-Entry) 16. Diluvio by Rauw Alejandro (-10) 17. Brillarosa by Fuerza Regida (New) 18. Poco A Poco by Xavi X Dareyes de La Sierra (-2) 19. Tucson Too Late by Jordan Davis (-4) 20. Whatever by Kygo With Ava Max (Re-Entry) 21. Back Then Right Now by Tyler Hubbard (Re-Entry) 22. We Ride by Bryan Martin (-9) 23. Nightcrawler by Travis Scott ft. Swae Lee & Chief Keef (New) (An album cut from 'Rodeo' getting some new resurgence in streaming, why not?) 24. Not My Fault by Renee Rapp & Megan Thee Stallion (-20) 25. Risk It All by Usher & H.E.R. (New) (Not surprised it took the album impact to get here.)
Since my comments keep getting removed for some reason, I'm just going to say that I was both disappointed and impressed by how you "covered" Vultures 1. That can't have been easy. I wonder if you'll do the same thing for the next two Vultures albums whenever they come out!
Best to archive and backup your copy of the comments somewhere else, heck even in your documents so this way you don't have to worry about comments disappearing. So this way the moment after you have posted what you want to say, copy it, paste it into a document or through your very private discord server, save it and leave it there.
Def interesting way of tackling the dumpsterfire that is new Kanye music. I haven't listened to the album, but from snippets I caught here and there I struggle to think of a song that wouldn't worth WOTW or a DM
as the menace to society i am, i did not listen to the thing and the only thing i know about it is that for some reason they got north west on there. she is ten. she does not need to be here.
I combed through a pirated copy of VULTURES 1 (the juice is not worth the squeeze). Worst of the Week is a tie between "KING" and "HOODRAT," Dishonorable Mention is "BEG FORGIVENESS." "CARNIVAL," "BURN" & "PROBLEMATIC" are the best songs on there but I wouldn't call any of them that good.
I don’t hate “beautiful things” I see the arguments as to why people hate it and also could see why it would hit for some people. For me, i dont thjnk id seek it out, but we should be talking about having a rock song in the top 10 even if it’s bad.
Mark, as a fan of yours for literally ten years now, I have so much respect for you calling out the bullshit in music and fan bases. After this video, my respect for you has deepened. Don’t compromise your beliefs or platform for the people who don’t matter in the end.
Btw for Kanye album separate the art from the artist argument doesn't worked when in the chorus he used the chant from Inter Milan's ultras (fanatics), you know the ones that have ties with Lazio ultras that have been tied to fascism for decades now and that those Inter Milan fans are commemorating a known fascist.
Hey Mark. I don't have much to say about the actual music this week, but I just wanted to let you know that I think your decision-making process on whether or not to cover certain artists depending on context, the severity of their deeds/allegations, the scope of the review itself, and what your personal perspective can add to the conversation makes perfect sense to me. I really respect that approach.
Definitely one of the best episodes of BBBD ever. Absolutely obliterated the Kanye Stans and major props to you for not hearing the album. Keep being awesome Mark 😎
i know this isn't going to be much among the deluge of kanye stans coming, but i genuinely appreciate your commentary, mark. you're a very fair critic and i appreciate your presence on my youtube dashboard.
Worst of the week has to be the one where he goes "controversial, bipolar, antisemite, but I'm still the king" like he knows and he's owning it. Unforgiveable.
I remembered you did the same stuff with Sia when Unstoppable two years ago and no one batted an eyelid because Sia don't have as much of a following like Kanye does. So this really came down to how far can Kanye stans will go for supporting Kanye when he inevitably making a bad record (even though Vultures is very inessential).
As A person who is also of the Autism Spectrum and is a fan of Sia. Music was Dogs*** but I could easily separate Pop Music singer/songwriter Sia from Garabge Movie Maker Sia. I understand Mark reasons and I know he won't review her new album nor do I want him too, because his channel, his rules.
@@josephtafur Well I definitely didn’t care or even hear about Bad Movie Maker Sia, and luckily I did not hear about it. Maybe that Sia shall stay in the Beysment while the actual Singer/ Songwriter Sia is not bad at all
Glad usher returned to the hot 100 this week! Super Bowl halftime was terrific! I definitely agree with BOTW. WOTW for me would probably be one of the Kanye west songs. I like most of his music, especially his older music, but this album doesn’t really brighten my interest.
I hate Kanye as a person, but listened to Vultures (it was mediocre). I always listen because I love art, and I don't like to ignore any of it. The way I see it, experiencing the art doesn't mean you approve of the person who made it - the art is a thing that speaks independently of its creator, and all art deserves a chance. Of course, that's complicated by the fact that every youtube play of a song gets counted towards its chart position, but tbh I think that's more of an indictment of a society that treats popular artists = good people than the listeners. But I understand why Mark wouldn't want to discuss Vultures on his channel. If he reviewed it positively, a lot of people would take that as an implicit approval of Kanye's actions, and I get why he wouldn't want to be in that position. If he reviewed it negatively, he'd have to take on the responsibility of dealing with all the discourse around Kanye and potentially even explain why antisemitism is bad. Plus I'm not going to judge Mark for avoiding something he hates. I'm a fan, I don't want him to be miserable. Mark, feel free to ignore the next Drake album, too.
I wish strangers was a bigger hit. It was a nice piece full song. As for that Gunna song thank god it’s finally gone. If only Last Night can leave too .
At least “Strangers” was a #1 in the UK, making Kenya Grace the second woman after Kate Bush in 2022 to score a #1 with a song written and produced by her alone. Stateside, we also have Alicia Keys scoring this feat with 2001’s “Fallin”.
kero kero bonito score the double (again!) on my personal charts! meanwhile mitski gets another takeover- 1. flyway - kero kero bonito 2. end of beginning - djo 3. last words of a shooting star - mitski 4. outside - kero kero bonito 5. used to the silence - attlas & jodie knight 6. kno ya wrong - schoolboy q & lance skiiiwater 7. pink in the night - mitski 8. kills me to be kind - crawlers 9. codeine crazy - future 10. nothing matters - the last dinner party 11. ready for this - erika henningsen (charlie), leslie kritzer (rosie), amir talai (alastor) 😈 12. i know it won’t work - gracie abrams 13. swimming - kero kero bonito 14. remember my name - mitski 15. smoke signals - phoebe bridgers 16. out for love - daphne rubin-vega (carmilla) 😈 17. run, run, run - mckinley dixon 18. nights - frank ocean 19. air war - crystal castles 20. older - lizzy mcalpine 21. lauder too - jid feat. ravyn lenae & eryn allen kane 22. high - cafuné 23. make believe - kero kero bonito 24. justify - no mana & voicians 25. loser, baby - keith david (husk) & blake roman (angel dust) 😈 ======================================= top 10 albums: 1. time n place - kero kero bonito 2. be the cowboy - mitski 3. the mess we seem to make - crawlers 4. stranger in the alps - phoebe bridgers 5. good riddance - gracie abrams 6. crystal castles - crystal castles 7. ego death - the internet 8. beloved! paradise! jazz!? - mckinley dixon 9. treats - sleigh bells 10. five seconds flat - lizzy mcalpine
Dang. Well I think it's clear Kanye's popularity has eclipsed his quality but I think I still tend to leave judgement to the art itself. I just wish it was that simple. The internet's interconnectedness makes it hard to just enjoy art for the art. You have to talk about it, review it, and discuss it. I haven't heard vulture but it is what it is. Really sad you didn't look into the last four Nas albums. Full of amazing songs. It's okay that you have reasons not to.
I stand in solidarity with you. I’ll also never listen to that Vultures Album, nor listen to any of the songs from the album. Just Kanye should be ignored and the general public should move on from him.
I’d probably say carnival due to it being a perfect example of everything wrong with the album start promising until you get to the verses where nobody really stands out and Kanye is the worst part of the song
I say Hoodrat was the worst due to the damn repetition of Hoodrat over and over and over again throughout that accursed song. Dishonorable mention was probably the song with the big naked bitches falling out of the sky sample.
@@Astro_Morri Fair point, but at the same time, it just makes me wish Freddie took his verse onto a better project instead. Same thing for the late Nipsey Hussle verse on a different track being used for something better instead.
@@crazyluigi6664 'Hoodrats' also features a pointless monologue from Mike Tyson cause of course. Why not make the subtext into outright text? 'Beg Forgiveness' also suffers from this one too, as well as 'King', pretty much the entire album.
This was a great way to get through Kanye. Your reviews are always entertaining, but the commentary you provide with your knowledge is really important for the audience who refuses to listen to take in. Very well done 👏
Listening to vultures once is hilarious as it has so many defenders and sounds like it was mixed by a child and has verses that sound like those ai songs
At least ai is more reliable than Diamond Axe Studios these days😂. The reason he’s always bitching about it on twitter is he knows people like him who can’t put out a video to save their lives are the reason that software is taking off.
Kanye has been trash and been on my sick and shut in list for years. A waste. That said I'm excited for Beyoncé's country album and I disagree regarding 16 Carriages. I love it and think it's much better than Texas Hold Em'(even tho THE is pretty fun).
You know, the 'separating art from.the artist' argument is actually valid, until you realise that Vultures is literally reflective of the artist's deteriorating views. Thats why I can still tolerate his old work, because he doesnt mention any of it. Ive still not listened to it, but ive viewed the lyrics and that argument is thrown out the window.
@@justezek8596 I'd say Ye's peak in popularity was right inbetween Graduation and 808s, where he was able to debut singles in the top 5 prior to Spotify and that, and now he's just going off Stan power, controversy and name recognisability. I wish ye would go back to that near decade of superiority in terms of music and a funny wack job personality instead of what he has become in the last decade.
@@Eminem-F1 Trevor Noah said it best when he talked about Ye on his Show, his cultural relevance has steadily decreased since 2016 and his fans and even Ye and all of his yesmen aren't agreeing with it. Thus he thinks making the obvious collab album that flatters none of your strengths and isn't 'Scaring The Hoes' (hi Peggy, SIGH) is gonna win him back the popular and critical attention since spewing fasict nonsense since 2022. I mean, y'all do know there's a solo album on the wing that I don't care about.
if you like murder on the dancefloor, i suggest you check out the royal otis “triple j like a” cover that just released recently! it gives the song an indie-pop twist and (hot take!) might be better than the original. check it out if you want!
Mark woke up and chose violence. I'm just kidding, I appreciate and respect the line you're drawing over not reviewing Kanye's music, and I appreciate that you're holding to that decision even on a show that would otherwise have forced you to pay attention to his music, by its very nature. I especially appreciate it after spending a year or so vaguely lurking and participating in pop music fan/standom spaces, which can be fun but can also be toxic and/or exhausting. I really enjoy Billboard Breakdown as a whole, and I think this is a creative way to tackle an artist you're doing your best not to platform, for good reason.
The best thing abt Ye's album was North's feature and the funniest thing was Ty singing I'm just here to get paid. I haven't heard the album either but I did hear the singles and saw a couple reactions and heard a few snippets but from what I heard Ye just has so many terrible verses and lines
My Universe top 25 songs of the week (February 20, 2023) 1. Noah Kahan ft. Post Malone-Dial Drunk (=) (#1 for 3 weeks) 2. NECRY TALKIE-bloom (+1) 3. Ai Higuchi-Itterasshai (-1) (#1 for 7 weeks) 4. Olivia Rodrigo-Can't Catch Me Now (=) (#1 for 2 weeks) 5. Ariana Grande-yes, and? (+2) 6. Linked Horizon-Nisennen.. Moshiku wa... Nimannen Go no Kimi e (-1) 7. Abandoned Pools-Unrehearsed (+1) 8. Taylor Swift-Style (Taylor's Version)/Style (-2) (#1 for 1 week) 9. Dua Lipa-Houdini (+6) 10. Hozier-First Light (=) 11. Troye Sivan-Got Me Started (-2) 12. Dua Lipa-Training Season (New Debut) 13. Lil Nas X-J CHRIST (-2) 14. Bring Me The Horizon-Kool-Aid (-2) 15. Drake ft. Sexyy Red & SZA-Rich Baby Daddy (-1) 16. Chris Stapleton-White Horse (=) 17. Bad Bunny-MONACO (-4) (#1 for 1 week) 18. Troye Sivan-Rush (-1) (#1 for 6 weeks) 19. Nate Smith-World On Fire (+3) 20. Noah Kahan-Forever (-1) 21. NEEDTOBREATHE-Everknown (-3) 22. Hazbin Hotel-Loser, Baby (-1) 23. The Weeknd-Gasoline (+3) 24. Drake-Virginia Beach (-4) 25. Green Day-Dilemma (-1)
I've been seeing so many of these "politics is ruining music" and "Fantano's reviews are too political!" videos in my recommended recently that I'm starting to lose faith in some humanity. Y'all (ye stans atm) cannot be that illiterate, right? (Also worth noting that "Separate the art from the artist" literally says that, like, some of y'all are defending these artists and saying that)
Whoever said on Fantano's vid "can't separate the art from the artist when the artist won't separate themselves from their art" (paraphrased) - the one good take anybody's ever had in a Fantano comment section
Mitski's gonna be one of those artists where Billboard may suggests their one hit wonders, but their legacy doesn't. And thankfully, that Billboard song was great. I'm glad there's a chance it'll be on the Year-End.
I hope she’s not a one hit wonder as she’s fantastic! Hilarious way I got drawn to her was my late parents had a little chihuahua they named Mitski….and no chance they named her after the singer, as the puppy was euthanized in 2011 and anyway my parents didn’t listen to her genre. I have a good friend who has a radio show on a community station in metro Detroit and he played something by her. I immediately texted him letting him know about my parents dog.
I think this is the first time you’ve outright refused to talk about a song (or multiple songs) on Billboard Breakdown that did chart on the Hot 100. Personally, I’ve never been a fan of Kanye West. Even if he hadn’t said and done all the horrible things he’s said and done, I still wouldn’t care for “Vultures” or ever be interested to listen to it. That being said, I am a firm believer of “separate art from the artist”, and if some Kanye fan is genuinely able to enjoy his music even despite knowing and acknowledging all the horrible things he’s said and done, more power to them. I don’t believe “separate art from the artist” should be an excuse for Kanye’s behavior, but bringing it up when someone wants to listen to music by someone who’s done something bad or wrong (be it Chris Brown or Morgan Wallen or any song written by Dr. Luke) because they genuinely enjoy the song is perfectly valid IMO. I went more into detail on my thoughts on this topic in my response video to that video essay you mentioned on your main channel.
Well I have similar believes too since I save a few old Kanye songs from his catalogue, but hey he is really doing something wrong for his songs lately
You really shouldn’t be putting Morgan Wallen in the same group as abusers like Chris Brown and Dr. Luke. It’s valid to mention Wallen here, but he should be grouped alongside Post Malone and KAROL G as artists with similar controversies (+ Justin Bieber and Camila Cabello, who were actively racist in their teens).
@@talesofawhovian9690 I do agree what Morgan Wallen did isn’t nearly as bad as what Chris Brown did. I did mention him though because he’s another artist who’s gotten into real-life controversy and where “separate art from the artist” applies. That’s why I didn’t mention Morgan Wallen (and said I wasn’t talking about him in some text on screen) in my “Why Are There So Many Scumbags in the Entertainment Industry?” video. Spoiler alert: my answer to that question isn’t quite what you’d expect it to be.
Haven’t heard Vultures in its entirety either (and never will) just bits of it from Fantano’s stream but having read the lyrics, my guesses for your WOTW would’ve been a tie between Carnival & Problematic, for the former the production is absolutely rancid, Playboi Carti sounds awful, Rich the Kid is bland as usual and Kanye compares himself to R. Kelly, Bill Cosby and Diddy all in one bar, and for the latter track Problematic for similar reasons production wise and has probably the grossest and most dehumanizing lyric Kanye has ever said about any woman and it’s toward his wife by saying "she looking like a reference." Dishonorable mentions however, it’s basically a pick your poison situation.
beyonce dropping via a Verizon Super Bowl ad, thereby losing out on a full tracking week and getting #2 twice instead, is unfortunate but a strategy. they’re both getting country adds though
To be honest, having that album bomb is WAY BETTER THAN having “Vultures 1” album bomb, I hope we don’t have to do this again for “Vulture 2” and “Vultures 3”, but I think unfortunately we still have to
And it's a shame we didn't get an album bomb for Usher's new album. The Super Bowl was also partially promo for it. I guess not all legacy acts are treated equally.
Not to mention that "Hazbin Hotel OST" was actually classified as Comedy album (See in additional charts: Comedy album chart), if it got an album bomb, it would be the first(?) comedy album to have an album bomb in Hot 100
Hoodrat would've been the worst of the week, probably followed by Lord or anything else on the project. I pirated the album out of morbid curiosity, and it was just as bad as you would've expected Mark.
I listened to Hoodrat because Brad Taste In Music said that if it wasn't for him reacting to the new album on stream he would've turned off the album and yup I agree
Hoodrat is one of if not the worst Kanye song I’ve ever heard (and Kanye’s my favorite artist of all time). Truly the trashiest of the trash and just gross, misogynistic lyrics that are just disgusting coming from a middle aged father with a daughter.
"number 30, separate the art from the artist"
the world is a cruel and unjust place. there is no harmony in the universe. the only constant is suffering.
"number 28, forever by noah kahan"
omg noah kahan! hi!
VERY interesting take on tackling 'Vultures I' on this show... but honestly, given the nature of Kanye's previous comments, I wholeheartedly agree. We should all indeed move on from him.
Yeah, I'm with Dead End Hip Hop, I enjoy the old stuff but That's it
@@josephtafurI may like a few old songs from him at his time with UMG, but since I’m a Swifties and what he did is not really something we can easily move on from, let move on from him instead. No thank you.
@@enthusiastic_swiftie_13 As a Swiftie too, my main basis for boycotting Kanye isn't even down to how he's treated Taylor. Sure, I wouldn't be able to respect him after what he's said and done to her anyway, but frankly, there are far worse issues surrounding him and the way Mark called them out in this video, it really couldn't have been done much better.
@@josephtafur The interesting thing they brought up is how much "Bad Kanye albums can we take before we as a society say 'it is enough'. It'll be fascinating about the development of the whole Vultures series. I'll leave it there.
I don't think this is going to stop me from listening to his old stuff (maybe that's a problem) but I have no interest in engaging with the man he is now.
I know the past year has been massive for country music in the charts but I honestly didn’t expect Beyoncé to try it again in 2024. Not complaining though because ‘Texas Hold ‘Em’ is awesome! I love how versatile she’s always been with her sound.
It’s now predicted to become her ninth #1 single on the Hot 100 next week and her 13th if you count her work with Destiny’s Child! 😊
lana del rey and post malone are doing it too
@@itsnoodlesznpt2 Between this and '16 Carriages', I'm really excited for 'Renaissance: Act II' at the end of the month!
I mean....... Girlie is a Texas girl, she is from the south so it shouldn't really be a surprise that she went this route. It also helps that I think both her songs were great! I'm excited for her country album this year!
@@TheBlackPanther05 Hopefully she'll get an album bomb from it.
She definitely will, the questions are how much it'll last in the charts and more importantly if country radio takes on the album singles @@piran1807
I said it in your review refusing to listen to the new Kanye album, and I'll say it again despite the large amount of people telling me what an ignorant moron I am; I am 100% behind you on this one. Kanye has not made anything worth my attention in years and this new album wouldn't be worth my time either even if he wasn't openly promoting fascism.
And if you Kanye defenders are seriously going to come at me again, I'm just going to have to use a much more succinct rebuttal to your bad faith arguments.
"Your boos mean nothing, I've seen what makes you cheer!"
Welcome to your tape and ur real gay
@@gut853 You're using gay as an insult in 2024? Grow up.
i really like the way you covered vultures this week. i think you made your points very well and made me think hard about what i think and feel about it. thank you for this video
Welcome to your tape and ur gay
me too!
Absolutely ecstatic to see ‘Yeah!’ back in the Top 20 following Usher’s incredible Superbowl Halftime Show. One of the most iconic hits of the 2000s and a definite highlight for me this week! ❤
I wish his new album had a bigger impact here but at least ‘Good Good’ is still having a really solid chart run.
i hope yeah pulls a Sure Thing and makes this year end too i think thatd be really funny
@@thatoneguy9582 Me too.
@@piran1807 "Good Good" will be the first song of his in (what feels like) several years to make the Year-End Hot 100. 🤓
@@thema1998 The last song of his that I recall making a Year-End chart would've been 'No Limit' (#90, 2016).
Yeah destroyed charts in 2004
I'm reminded of something that Todd in the Shadows said: It will never be easier for you to drop him from your life. Until he says or does something even worse and releases even worse music.
That's the thing with "bad guys" in the music industry and beyond. They see being controversial as "no press is bad press" and, as proven time and time again, people will pay closer attention if they do. Now, for most, they'll go too far and lose everything, but I feel the reason why Kanye, as well as CBrown and others like them, are able to get away with it is because of Todd's popstar theory: Artists who'll always have a dedicated fanbase vs. Artists who have fans as long as they have hits.
I wish voltorb provided time notes.
If I had a nickel for every time Spectrum Pulse used a piece on a Kanye album to instead ramble about the toxic culture and narratives that have surrounded him for years on end and said basically nothing about the album itself, I'd have two nickels (the first being with Donda back in 2021). Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
Welcome to your tape
I don’t always agree with your opinions Mark but I will always respect the testicles you have to stand up against the most volatile and all around worst fandoms
Remember, critics are in fact always right. Traditionally at least.
Mark came out here, and said “I didn’t come here to fuck around with my critiques”
Good on you
I have tbh Mark I skipped the rant because I just don't care for Kayne to give him any more attention. Kayne or should say Ye should just go to therapy and take some medication. For all of us.
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I think he should just not be allowed to drop music for all of our sakes
Do you think LE SSERAFIM’s “EASY” can finally debut here given its rise on the US Spotify charts?
No but I think that I can welcome you to your tape, gay vulture
Congratulations to Noah on his first Top 10 hit! If only ‘Dial Drunk’ was able to get this big, but ‘Stick Season’ is still a good song. :)
Not even going to comment on the other album that took over the Hot 100 this week other than I’m disappointed that it sent some truly fantastic songs like ‘White Horse’, ‘Strangers’ and ‘My Love Mine All Mine’ all recurrent! 😔
mitski recurrent? goddamn you, yetler.
@@itsnoodlesznpt2 Thankfully, I think she's just about going to make the Year-End list!
F for all those songs.
@@piran1807while Kenya Grace is really dangerous, her points is around 1100, which is way lower than the cut off line or the pushed back cut off line from 2023 thanks to Billboard’s stupid decision. Unless we end the year before more massive songs surpassing the points for Kenya, she could be not there with us
@@enthusiastic_swiftie_13 Unfortunately, the cut-off I've seen from TOTC is around 1250-1300 points, meaning 'Strangers' would likely be missing out.
as a former Kanye stan, I unfortunately saw his downfall coming since 2018 at the very least.
his antics during the TLOP era were concerning, but the album was still good and I was too young to think about the consequences.
Ye is where the chaos stopped being fun and just became frustrating - especially since the music itself started feeling like unfinished drafts (Ghost Town is the last great Kanye song imo).
Jesus is King where it finally hit me that Kanye was past the point of no return. I remember talking with other Kanye fans back in 2019 and telling them that if he keeps ignoring his mental health and surrounding himself with yesmen, he will go down a very dark direction. they all denied it, and this is not me trying to gloat about it, I’m just sad that my predictions came true.
at this point, even if I were to completely ignore all the context behind 2024 Kanye (which I am not), I’d still be done with him, only because the music itself has become so mediocre - him trying to win over his fanbase by reminding them of the time he still made good music (the Hell of a Life sample comes to mind). it’s the Disney remake approach, and I find it just as hacky in Kanye’s case.
I am sad that one of my favourite artists of all time is destroying his legacy not only through unashamed bigotry, but by also feeding the brainwashed hypebeast people slop that doesn’t hold a candle to the classics. but the world doesn’t stop with Kanye, so if he isn’t willing to change, I also don’t have to stay by his side and scramble to defend his actions.
I might be done with him as an artist, but I still hope he will find actual inner peace someday.
it was a long comment, I know, but thanks for reading.
The part about music - art in general, really - making people feel uncomfortable emotions feels, to me, like a reason why people of that stripe are pushing hard in favor of AI "art" - art can't make you feel emotions if there aren't any emotions in art to begin with.
I thinking Texas hold em will be the number one hit on the 2024 year end chart this looks like it will get a lot of radio support.. Unfortunately that crappy Kayne west song will probably have a long run in the top 10 as well.
Honestly, I really don't give a shit on what Kanye's been up to lately, so skipping out on reviewing his work was pretty nice. In fact, so far this year, I think this is the first time (since before following the charts in mid-2016) I felt so disconnected from modern pop music. I mean, almost NOTHING has caught my interest. Maybe because I spent the last few months listening to k-pop, but I'm not sure if that's the case because in early 2020, I went through a 2000's pop punk phase, and I also liked a lot of those (at the time) modern songs just fine! Right now, my favorite song in the top ten is Tate McRae's 'greedy', and I just feel out of touch.
The fact that Kanye even has a strong following after everything that happened...
It's more like pop no longer means popular. 50.000 Billboard formula sales could produce an album bomb.
I'm ambivalent to your lack of mentioning Dua here. I'd rather not know she dropped a few spots but I'd rather know she charted at all.
She’s charting next week
Respect for the vultures stuff. I feel like everyone should have their opinion on what they should and shouldn’t do, just the fact that this person has been on a downhill spiral for the last few years, and it just so happens to be one of the most popular rappers of today so honestly it’s a lose lose situation for most reviewers, but I think you handled it the best out of people I’ve seen. Huge respect to that ❤
We can unanimously agree that the conservation about the biggest topics being pointed out for 'Vultures 1' and Kanye West, in general, was handled brilliantly. Still, I am frustrated with this brief impact that it left some interesting songs in the bubbling under for this week, so let's get into it.
1. Fuck Niggaz by Youngboy Never Broke Again (New)
2. Deeper Well by Kacey Musgraves (New) (Out of all the new singles that I'm upset got screwed by the Vultures 1 impact it would be this track, as I think it's a very good single for the upcoming album. I just hope it can potentially chart when the album drops.)
3. Paul Revere by Noah Kahan & Gregory Alan Isakov (Re-Entry)
4. Let's Go by Key Glock (-1)
5. Kissing Strangers by Usher (New) (It's a shame these two tracks got stuck here as they are among the best of the album.)
6. Ruin by Usher & Pheelz (+17)
7. Poison by Blake Roman, Sam Haft & Andrew Underberg (-5)
8. La Falda by Myke Towers (+10)
9. Make You Mine by Madison Beer (New)
10. Tu Name by Fuerza Regida (New) (The two Fuerza Regida tracks here are from an EP that they put out in the past tracking week and all of it impacted the Latin charts.)
11. All My Love by Noah Kahan (New)
12. Bulletproof by Nate Smith (New) (A new single pushed on country radio, presumably for a new album.)
13. Loser Baby by Andrew Underberg, Sam Haft, Keith David & Blake Roman (-12)
14. Luna by Feid & ATL Jacob (-4)
15. Call Your Mom by Noah Kahan With Lizzy McAlpine (Re-Entry)
16. Diluvio by Rauw Alejandro (-10)
17. Brillarosa by Fuerza Regida (New)
18. Poco A Poco by Xavi X Dareyes de La Sierra (-2)
19. Tucson Too Late by Jordan Davis (-4)
20. Whatever by Kygo With Ava Max (Re-Entry)
21. Back Then Right Now by Tyler Hubbard (Re-Entry)
22. We Ride by Bryan Martin (-9)
23. Nightcrawler by Travis Scott ft. Swae Lee & Chief Keef (New) (An album cut from 'Rodeo' getting some new resurgence in streaming, why not?)
24. Not My Fault by Renee Rapp & Megan Thee Stallion (-20)
25. Risk It All by Usher & H.E.R. (New) (Not surprised it took the album impact to get here.)
Looks like Poison might still gain some traction. Sadly, Loser Baby might be on its way down and out.
Since my comments keep getting removed for some reason, I'm just going to say that I was both disappointed and impressed by how you "covered" Vultures 1. That can't have been easy. I wonder if you'll do the same thing for the next two Vultures albums whenever they come out!
It’s less of a when and more of an if
Best to archive and backup your copy of the comments somewhere else, heck even in your documents so this way you don't have to worry about comments disappearing. So this way the moment after you have posted what you want to say, copy it, paste it into a document or through your very private discord server, save it and leave it there.
Great criticisms for Vultures. I also really enjoyed hearing Beyoncé making country songs.
Welcome to your tape and Beyonce is a gay vulture
Def interesting way of tackling the dumpsterfire that is new Kanye music. I haven't listened to the album, but from snippets I caught here and there I struggle to think of a song that wouldn't worth WOTW or a DM
as the menace to society i am, i did not listen to the thing and the only thing i know about it is that for some reason they got north west on there. she is ten. she does not need to be here.
Next week: “End of Beginning” by Djo
its an amazing song, if you like steve lacy you’ll be in for a treat
i’ve been rooting for djo since 2022 😅
it's Joe Keery aka Steve from Stranger Things
@@maddexulanowski1184 i found this out at the end of last year and was gobsmacked i didn’t know this before
i'm so excited for this!
Is that song actually doing well?
Came for the weekly recap of Billboard movements, stayed for the annual thrashing of psychotic stanbases
I combed through a pirated copy of VULTURES 1 (the juice is not worth the squeeze). Worst of the Week is a tie between "KING" and "HOODRAT," Dishonorable Mention is "BEG FORGIVENESS." "CARNIVAL," "BURN" & "PROBLEMATIC" are the best songs on there but I wouldn't call any of them that good.
Bro said Carnival, Burn & Problematic ain’t good
Carnival is just minimal though. It seems only good because everything recently he's created is bad. @@roseentertainmentyt
I have to wonder, what are you doing for this week’s V30?
I don’t hate “beautiful things” I see the arguments as to why people hate it and also could see why it would hit for some people. For me, i dont thjnk id seek it out, but we should be talking about having a rock song in the top 10 even if it’s bad.
Mark, as a fan of yours for literally ten years now, I have so much respect for you calling out the bullshit in music and fan bases. After this video, my respect for you has deepened. Don’t compromise your beliefs or platform for the people who don’t matter in the end.
welcome to your tape
Btw for Kanye album separate the art from the artist argument doesn't worked when in the chorus he used the chant from Inter Milan's ultras (fanatics), you know the ones that have ties with Lazio ultras that have been tied to fascism for decades now and that those Inter Milan fans are commemorating a known fascist.
Hey Mark. I don't have much to say about the actual music this week, but I just wanted to let you know that I think your decision-making process on whether or not to cover certain artists depending on context, the severity of their deeds/allegations, the scope of the review itself, and what your personal perspective can add to the conversation makes perfect sense to me. I really respect that approach.
Definitely one of the best episodes of BBBD ever. Absolutely obliterated the Kanye Stans and major props to you for not hearing the album. Keep being awesome Mark 😎
Welcome to your tape and he didn’t obliterate anybody because he like you is a gay vulture
i know this isn't going to be much among the deluge of kanye stans coming, but i genuinely appreciate your commentary, mark. you're a very fair critic and i appreciate your presence on my youtube dashboard.
Nice pokmon on your chair
Worst of the week has to be the one where he goes "controversial, bipolar, antisemite, but I'm still the king" like he knows and he's owning it.
Unforgiveable.
There's a song going viral from an artist named Djo, AKA Joe Keery from "Stranger Things." The song is called "End Of Beginning"
I remembered you did the same stuff with Sia when Unstoppable two years ago and no one batted an eyelid because Sia don't have as much of a following like Kanye does. So this really came down to how far can Kanye stans will go for supporting Kanye when he inevitably making a bad record (even though Vultures is very inessential).
As A person who is also of the Autism Spectrum and is a fan of Sia. Music was Dogs*** but I could easily separate Pop Music singer/songwriter Sia from Garabge Movie Maker Sia. I understand Mark reasons and I know he won't review her new album nor do I want him too, because his channel, his rules.
@@josephtafur Well I definitely didn’t care or even hear about Bad Movie Maker Sia, and luckily I did not hear about it. Maybe that Sia shall stay in the Beysment while the actual Singer/ Songwriter Sia is not bad at all
oh!!!! the timber comparison makes so much sense!!!
“who are you lol” is my personal BEST OF THE WEEK this episode
Glad usher returned to the hot 100 this week! Super Bowl halftime was terrific! I definitely agree with BOTW. WOTW for me would probably be one of the Kanye west songs. I like most of his music, especially his older music, but this album doesn’t really brighten my interest.
Noo I was so excited for the azealia banks album review 😭😅 but fr man too many people are sheeple for mfs they don’t know nowadays
Carnival is predicted to stay at 3 😭
No please.
@@enthusiastic_swiftie_13 sorry to tell you 😭
TOTC prediction isn’t even in the top 10
Nvm I’m a dumbass
One of your best episodes! But yes, very well explained addressing the hate comments! Thank you so much, Mark! 👏👏👏👏👏
i hate the fact that i actually like carnival thankfully i pirate everything i listen to
I love how you're willing to stand by your beliefs and morals, even if it gets you hate.
Welcome to your tape
So glad to see Noah Kahan get his first ever Top 10 hit this week! Stick Season is a really damn good song!
there is something funny to the fact that the most threatening backlash you've gotten wasn't from the vultures stance, but from The 2021 Incident(TM)
Nah, you're forgetting the time someone physically attacked him at a black metal show.
@@InkAndPoet i did in fact forget that
@@InkAndPoetWHAT?! That Happened to Mark?
@@josephtafur yeah, he mentioned that the week after the BTS drama.
@@InkAndPoetwoah
I hate Kanye as a person, but listened to Vultures (it was mediocre). I always listen because I love art, and I don't like to ignore any of it. The way I see it, experiencing the art doesn't mean you approve of the person who made it - the art is a thing that speaks independently of its creator, and all art deserves a chance.
Of course, that's complicated by the fact that every youtube play of a song gets counted towards its chart position, but tbh I think that's more of an indictment of a society that treats popular artists = good people than the listeners.
But I understand why Mark wouldn't want to discuss Vultures on his channel. If he reviewed it positively, a lot of people would take that as an implicit approval of Kanye's actions, and I get why he wouldn't want to be in that position. If he reviewed it negatively, he'd have to take on the responsibility of dealing with all the discourse around Kanye and potentially even explain why antisemitism is bad. Plus I'm not going to judge Mark for avoiding something he hates. I'm a fan, I don't want him to be miserable. Mark, feel free to ignore the next Drake album, too.
MfSP W
I was hoping you didn’t discontinue this. Thanks for your work!
Welcome to your tape, gay vulture
My personal new debuts of the week (February 20, 2023)
Dua Lipa-Training Season (#12)
Galleons ft. Andrew Wells-Crybaby (#31)
i don’t think you understood You’re Gonna Go Far at all. it’s about his family saying goodbye to him as he leaves his hometown to chase his dreams.
I wish strangers was a bigger hit. It was a nice piece full song. As for that Gunna song thank god it’s finally gone. If only Last Night can leave too .
If it’s not the Christmas songs blocking her way, she could’ve peaked within top 30… now her stat line is not even in top 40
At least “Strangers” was a #1 in the UK, making Kenya Grace the second woman after Kate Bush in 2022 to score a #1 with a song written and produced by her alone.
Stateside, we also have Alicia Keys scoring this feat with 2001’s “Fallin”.
kero kero bonito score the double (again!) on my personal charts! meanwhile mitski gets another takeover-
1. flyway - kero kero bonito
2. end of beginning - djo
3. last words of a shooting star - mitski
4. outside - kero kero bonito
5. used to the silence - attlas & jodie knight
6. kno ya wrong - schoolboy q & lance skiiiwater
7. pink in the night - mitski
8. kills me to be kind - crawlers
9. codeine crazy - future
10. nothing matters - the last dinner party
11. ready for this - erika henningsen (charlie), leslie kritzer (rosie), amir talai (alastor) 😈
12. i know it won’t work - gracie abrams
13. swimming - kero kero bonito
14. remember my name - mitski
15. smoke signals - phoebe bridgers
16. out for love - daphne rubin-vega (carmilla) 😈
17. run, run, run - mckinley dixon
18. nights - frank ocean
19. air war - crystal castles
20. older - lizzy mcalpine
21. lauder too - jid feat. ravyn lenae & eryn allen kane
22. high - cafuné
23. make believe - kero kero bonito
24. justify - no mana & voicians
25. loser, baby - keith david (husk) & blake roman (angel dust) 😈
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top 10 albums:
1. time n place - kero kero bonito
2. be the cowboy - mitski
3. the mess we seem to make - crawlers
4. stranger in the alps - phoebe bridgers
5. good riddance - gracie abrams
6. crystal castles - crystal castles
7. ego death - the internet
8. beloved! paradise! jazz!? - mckinley dixon
9. treats - sleigh bells
10. five seconds flat - lizzy mcalpine
Texas Hold em reminds me of that one Halsey track tbh.
'you should be sad'?
@@justezek8596thats the one
I hear it too
This is one for the history books.
Welcome to your tape
I think you would’ve found Hoodrat to be the worst of the week. Also, good choice to review it like this
Dang. Well I think it's clear Kanye's popularity has eclipsed his quality but I think I still tend to leave judgement to the art itself. I just wish it was that simple. The internet's interconnectedness makes it hard to just enjoy art for the art. You have to talk about it, review it, and discuss it. I haven't heard vulture but it is what it is. Really sad you didn't look into the last four Nas albums. Full of amazing songs. It's okay that you have reasons not to.
I stand in solidarity with you. I’ll also never listen to that Vultures Album, nor listen to any of the songs from the album. Just Kanye should be ignored and the general public should move on from him.
It’s pretty good I’m ngl 💀, except for that one weird song where Kanye does that voice, that one was bad
mlmam 😭
I’d probably say carnival due to it being a perfect example of everything wrong with the album start promising until you get to the verses where nobody really stands out and Kanye is the worst part of the song
I say Hoodrat was the worst due to the damn repetition of Hoodrat over and over and over again throughout that accursed song. Dishonorable mention was probably the song with the big naked bitches falling out of the sky sample.
@@crazyluigi6664 I was gonna say back to me too, but Freddie Gibbs versus good enough to keep that song from being trash
@@Astro_Morri Fair point, but at the same time, it just makes me wish Freddie took his verse onto a better project instead. Same thing for the late Nipsey Hussle verse on a different track being used for something better instead.
@@crazyluigi6664 'Hoodrats' also features a pointless monologue from Mike Tyson cause of course. Why not make the subtext into outright text? 'Beg Forgiveness' also suffers from this one too, as well as 'King', pretty much the entire album.
wow...this video...
This was a great way to get through Kanye. Your reviews are always entertaining, but the commentary you provide with your knowledge is really important for the audience who refuses to listen to take in. Very well done 👏
What songs will come out this summer of 2024
None to change the fact that welcome to your tape and ur gay
"Texas Hold 'Em" by Beyoncè
"Fortnight" by Taylor Swift feat. Post Malone
Listening to vultures once is hilarious as it has so many defenders and sounds like it was mixed by a child and has verses that sound like those ai songs
At least ai is more reliable than Diamond Axe Studios these days😂. The reason he’s always bitching about it on twitter is he knows people like him who can’t put out a video to save their lives are the reason that software is taking off.
Imagine if he brings her wife, it could be the most pathetic stuff I’ve ever seen
@@enthusiastic_swiftie_13 "I love my new wife!" - Ye, 2024
I think this was the ideal way to cover Kanye
the pacing in this video is hilarious at moments, you rushing to the Beyonce track right after that passionate rant was amazing.
I was in fact in Kindergarten circa 2010
Bruh, I was in 5th Grade
I graduated high school and entered college in 2010 myself.
I started fourth grade that year.
Edit: Third grade, actually. Apparently, I can't count.
I was born that year.
I was 1
On a lighter note, what do we all think of Ms. Dula Peep's newest single, Training Season?
this is gonna be a hot take, but i think it sucks. it’s very bland and houdini was miles better
Good but I prefer 'Houdini'.
it's underwhelming, but the hook is good. houdini is a lot better tho.
@@piran1807 Likewise
The hook kind of sucks honestly. Houdini was miles better.
Kanye has been trash and been on my sick and shut in list for years. A waste. That said I'm excited for Beyoncé's country album and I disagree regarding 16 Carriages. I love it and think it's much better than Texas Hold Em'(even tho THE is pretty fun).
Jesus is King: Reads bible verses.
Donda: Copies Script with Certified Lover Boy
Vultures 1 Nah. I'm done
Welcome to your tape
i'm not exactly in the best mood because i just got braces on tuesday so i've anticipated this for the pure salt.
Welcome to your tape
You know, the 'separating art from.the artist' argument is actually valid, until you realise that Vultures is literally reflective of the artist's deteriorating views. Thats why I can still tolerate his old work, because he doesnt mention any of it. Ive still not listened to it, but ive viewed the lyrics and that argument is thrown out the window.
The more Kanye got popular, the more it's become sad over the years.
@@justezek8596 I'd say Ye's peak in popularity was right inbetween Graduation and 808s, where he was able to debut singles in the top 5 prior to Spotify and that, and now he's just going off Stan power, controversy and name recognisability. I wish ye would go back to that near decade of superiority in terms of music and a funny wack job personality instead of what he has become in the last decade.
@@Eminem-F1 Trevor Noah said it best when he talked about Ye on his Show, his cultural relevance has steadily decreased since 2016 and his fans and even Ye and all of his yesmen aren't agreeing with it. Thus he thinks making the obvious collab album that flatters none of your strengths and isn't 'Scaring The Hoes' (hi Peggy, SIGH) is gonna win him back the popular and critical attention since spewing fasict nonsense since 2022. I mean, y'all do know there's a solo album on the wing that I don't care about.
I had to look up the Vulture titles to see if they were real. That is how much Kanye has fallen
if you like murder on the dancefloor, i suggest you check out the royal otis “triple j like a” cover that just released recently! it gives the song an indie-pop twist and (hot take!) might be better than the original. check it out if you want!
Mason Ramsey is releasing a Stephen Sanchez-esque song called Blue Over You, which is currently going viral on tiktok. Could this be Billboard hit?
Interesting
Mark woke up and chose violence.
I'm just kidding, I appreciate and respect the line you're drawing over not reviewing Kanye's music, and I appreciate that you're holding to that decision even on a show that would otherwise have forced you to pay attention to his music, by its very nature. I especially appreciate it after spending a year or so vaguely lurking and participating in pop music fan/standom spaces, which can be fun but can also be toxic and/or exhausting.
I really enjoy Billboard Breakdown as a whole, and I think this is a creative way to tackle an artist you're doing your best not to platform, for good reason.
Welcome to your tape and ur gay
@@gut853 You act like being gay is a bad thing.
wtf 16 carriages is so good
LOL Mark forcing us to watch in the description😂
Of Course This Angered The Bootlickers
Seriously These People are the Worst of the Music Community
The best thing abt Ye's album was North's feature and the funniest thing was Ty singing I'm just here to get paid. I haven't heard the album either but I did hear the singles and saw a couple reactions and heard a few snippets but from what I heard Ye just has so many terrible verses and lines
That’s why for this album, even without him putting his reputation on the floor, I would still say ‘no thank you’ .
Absolutely agreed
My Universe top 25 songs of the week (February 20, 2023)
1. Noah Kahan ft. Post Malone-Dial Drunk (=) (#1 for 3 weeks)
2. NECRY TALKIE-bloom (+1)
3. Ai Higuchi-Itterasshai (-1) (#1 for 7 weeks)
4. Olivia Rodrigo-Can't Catch Me Now (=) (#1 for 2 weeks)
5. Ariana Grande-yes, and? (+2)
6. Linked Horizon-Nisennen.. Moshiku wa... Nimannen Go no Kimi e (-1)
7. Abandoned Pools-Unrehearsed (+1)
8. Taylor Swift-Style (Taylor's Version)/Style (-2) (#1 for 1 week)
9. Dua Lipa-Houdini (+6)
10. Hozier-First Light (=)
11. Troye Sivan-Got Me Started (-2)
12. Dua Lipa-Training Season (New Debut)
13. Lil Nas X-J CHRIST (-2)
14. Bring Me The Horizon-Kool-Aid (-2)
15. Drake ft. Sexyy Red & SZA-Rich Baby Daddy (-1)
16. Chris Stapleton-White Horse (=)
17. Bad Bunny-MONACO (-4) (#1 for 1 week)
18. Troye Sivan-Rush (-1) (#1 for 6 weeks)
19. Nate Smith-World On Fire (+3)
20. Noah Kahan-Forever (-1)
21. NEEDTOBREATHE-Everknown (-3)
22. Hazbin Hotel-Loser, Baby (-1)
23. The Weeknd-Gasoline (+3)
24. Drake-Virginia Beach (-4)
25. Green Day-Dilemma (-1)
I've been seeing so many of these "politics is ruining music" and "Fantano's reviews are too political!" videos in my recommended recently that I'm starting to lose faith in some humanity. Y'all (ye stans atm) cannot be that illiterate, right?
(Also worth noting that "Separate the art from the artist" literally says that, like, some of y'all are defending these artists and saying that)
Why is it y’all are always losing faith in humanity the minute someone doesn’t agree with your woke opinions? Seriously, grow up and go outside.
@@gut853 you've been commenting on every comment that you don't agree with, you're not the one tell anyone to grow up or to go outside lmao.
Whoever said on Fantano's vid "can't separate the art from the artist when the artist won't separate themselves from their art" (paraphrased) - the one good take anybody's ever had in a Fantano comment section
@@canyounotmydude9155come on dude. Why you acting like ur from ohio rn?
@@gut853i think you need to grow up because i don’t think anyone over the age of 11 says “are you from ohio”
Mitski's gonna be one of those artists where Billboard may suggests their one hit wonders, but their legacy doesn't. And thankfully, that Billboard song was great. I'm glad there's a chance it'll be on the Year-End.
I hope she’s not a one hit wonder as she’s fantastic! Hilarious way I got drawn to her was my late parents had a little chihuahua they named Mitski….and no chance they named her after the singer, as the puppy was euthanized in 2011 and anyway my parents didn’t listen to her genre. I have a good friend who has a radio show on a community station in metro Detroit and he played something by her. I immediately texted him letting him know about my parents dog.
I think this is the first time you’ve outright refused to talk about a song (or multiple songs) on Billboard Breakdown that did chart on the Hot 100.
Personally, I’ve never been a fan of Kanye West. Even if he hadn’t said and done all the horrible things he’s said and done, I still wouldn’t care for “Vultures” or ever be interested to listen to it. That being said, I am a firm believer of “separate art from the artist”, and if some Kanye fan is genuinely able to enjoy his music even despite knowing and acknowledging all the horrible things he’s said and done, more power to them. I don’t believe “separate art from the artist” should be an excuse for Kanye’s behavior, but bringing it up when someone wants to listen to music by someone who’s done something bad or wrong (be it Chris Brown or Morgan Wallen or any song written by Dr. Luke) because they genuinely enjoy the song is perfectly valid IMO. I went more into detail on my thoughts on this topic in my response video to that video essay you mentioned on your main channel.
There was also Sia's "Unstoppable", but even there he at least had old clips from his Sia album review of him talking about it
Well I have similar believes too since I save a few old Kanye songs from his catalogue, but hey he is really doing something wrong for his songs lately
You really shouldn’t be putting Morgan Wallen in the same group as abusers like Chris Brown and Dr. Luke.
It’s valid to mention Wallen here, but he should be grouped alongside Post Malone and KAROL G as artists with similar controversies (+ Justin Bieber and Camila Cabello, who were actively racist in their teens).
@@talesofawhovian9690 I do agree what Morgan Wallen did isn’t nearly as bad as what Chris Brown did. I did mention him though because he’s another artist who’s gotten into real-life controversy and where “separate art from the artist” applies. That’s why I didn’t mention Morgan Wallen (and said I wasn’t talking about him in some text on screen) in my “Why Are There So Many Scumbags in the Entertainment Industry?” video. Spoiler alert: my answer to that question isn’t quite what you’d expect it to be.
I’m here for a format shakeup despite the circumstances I suppose?
The fact that Kacey Musgraves and Madison Beer both could have charted with new songs this week had it not been for Vultures....
It’s disappointing that both artists have been ignored. They both deserve way more attention, especially Madison Beer.
Well said Mark
Haven’t heard Vultures in its entirety either (and never will) just bits of it from Fantano’s stream but having read the lyrics, my guesses for your WOTW would’ve been a tie between Carnival & Problematic, for the former the production is absolutely rancid, Playboi Carti sounds awful, Rich the Kid is bland as usual and Kanye compares himself to R. Kelly, Bill Cosby and Diddy all in one bar, and for the latter track Problematic for similar reasons production wise and has probably the grossest and most dehumanizing lyric Kanye has ever said about any woman and it’s toward his wife by saying "she looking like a reference." Dishonorable mentions however, it’s basically a pick your poison situation.
Honestly, Hoodrat was the choice for that wretched repetition of Hoodrat used over and over and over again throughout the song myself.
Worst to me is hoodrat because of the damn sample and singing combination sounds like a subpar youtube poop video. Vultures is really close though.
beyonce dropping via a Verizon Super Bowl ad, thereby losing out on a full tracking week and getting #2 twice instead, is unfortunate but a strategy. they’re both getting country adds though
Shame we didn't get a Hazbin Hotel album bomb cut since they got an album bomb cut in Canada. 🙃
To be honest, having that album bomb is WAY BETTER THAN having “Vultures 1” album bomb, I hope we don’t have to do this again for “Vulture 2” and “Vultures 3”, but I think unfortunately we still have to
It’s even more of a shame because they had a #1, #2, & #9 on bubbling under.
And it's a shame we didn't get an album bomb for Usher's new album. The Super Bowl was also partially promo for it. I guess not all legacy acts are treated equally.
Not to mention that "Hazbin Hotel OST" was actually classified as Comedy album (See in additional charts: Comedy album chart), if it got an album bomb, it would be the first(?) comedy album to have an album bomb in Hot 100
There's a limit to how good the music on Billboard can be. It's too good for Billboard
brace yourself for the defensive kanye stans should they come across this-
Don't worry
I have dealt with the Barbz, #IStandWithVic and #KickVic. This fandom can't hurt me
My always anticipated video of the week
It’s impressive that two female rappers were able to chart solo tracks in a week with this many big debuts
At this point it seems we can all agree Kanye has taken a massive fall from grace.
In other words, grass is green and the sky is blue
Kanye is to rappers what Shane Dawson is to UA-camrs.
No. Quit trying to speak for everyone. Some of us aren’t snowflakes like Mark and Fantano and you apparently
@heihogreenzx4704 Shane, still having success on UA-cam, generally sickens me
@@gut853No, vultures sucked.
*goes long and deep into how insecure and dangerous ye's fans are*
Also this beyonce song is good
"It's Not THAT Deep" is a pretty good track but "Why Even Bother" is a masterpiece and a half.
Agreed on that second part, at least.
Both are tunes, but I personally liked 'Who Are You Anyway Lol' even more! 🥺
Hoodrat would've been the worst of the week, probably followed by Lord or anything else on the project. I pirated the album out of morbid curiosity, and it was just as bad as you would've expected Mark.
I listened to Hoodrat because Brad Taste In Music said that if it wasn't for him reacting to the new album on stream he would've turned off the album and yup I agree
Hoodrat is one of if not the worst Kanye song I’ve ever heard (and Kanye’s my favorite artist of all time). Truly the trashiest of the trash and just gross, misogynistic lyrics that are just disgusting coming from a middle aged father with a daughter.