To note with this motherboard, Asus opted to start the PCIE slotting at slot-2, so anything wider than a 2 slot card will overhand and block your lower edge connectors. My 2.5 slot 3090 Ti on this MB, the edge squishes the connectors over a bit, so a 3-slot 4080 or 4090 wouldn't fit. The Asus GENE X670E mATX doesn't have this issue, as it locates the GPU slot up another space.
@@glarenbutclearn It is possible that a larger can be massaged into the MB, as I did with my 3090 Ti, depending on the design of the fan shroud of the design. If I could redo my MB purchase I might go for the Gene which is an Asus X670E mATX but places the GPU in the top upper slot. It was $200 more though at the time! When selecting a GPU, look at the design and the pictures of the TUF and see if the edge of the GPU would interfere enough with the lower end connectors to prevent safe and happy physical install.
@@paulanderegg5536 the gene looked nice until I noticed asus went with an intel 1255-v for ethernet. You saved yourself a chunk of change and a massive headache.
Went for this one with Ryzen 5 7500 (non K). While more expensive than DDR4 based upgrade, this seems way more future proof with DDR5 and NVMe 5.0. I'm upgrading from I5 Haswell DDR3 (2014). Soooo... should last me until 2030.
@@alexanderl9985 while pcie 5.0 graphics slot would be the latest thing, pcie 4.0 is not fully utilized today. We likely wont see a performance difference between pcie 4.0 and 5.0 for at least a few generations of GPUs, and at that point the only difference would be among the top tier GPUs since they're the only ones pushing bandwidth to the limit.
what on earth are you talking about ryzen 5 7500? this cpu does not exist, and non-k is referring to an intel cpu that is non-overclockable while all amd ryzen cpus are, DDR5 is required for AM5 cpus (7000 series)
Great video, very informative. This board looking pretty good to upgrade to for sure if you have something older and needing another board. Keep up the great work CS!
Thank you for the video, not enough videos out there to help choose an M-ATB board. For using this board with a 7800X3D, 7900 XTX, aio cooling, D31 mesh SC screen case, corsair SF850L, 64 GB DDR5 6k trident neo dram and the WD-Black s850nx 2TB ssd would this be the best board to go with? There are not a ton of quality m-ATX boards out there and I am torn between this, the MSI Mortar (but forces you to put GPU in 2nd slot so not sure about that with bottom fans) and I think the Aorus, and the high end ASUS ROG board. Also, do you suggest using the boards heatsink for the SSD or using an SSD with its own heatsink? Thank you.
ASUS is pretty notorious for its bloatware. My ASUS laptop, for example, has over a dozen ASUS processes in the task manager. This motherboard looks great, but I am worried, does it come with bloatware?
Wow I found the “how it’s made channel” I’m disappointed that I didn’t learn how the sausage is made but I am happy to learn how it’s eaten. Also cool mobo love the new LGA system
The question I have is: Is the AM5 platform, almost 6 months after its release, stable enough to consider investing in this platform. Or should I wait a bit longer to avoid the headaches that might come with early adopters of new platforms. I currently run a old i5 4440 and am looking to build a new rig. I would like to go with the AM5 platform because it gives me a great path to upgrade only the cpu several years down the line when the AM5 platform reaches its end of lifespan; not having to invest in a complete new rig.
im going to build a system for gaming with this motherboard. Which AMD processor model and CPU cooler should I choose? I think to buy AMD Ryzen 9 7900X
I got the fill size version. I am disappointed it is wifi 6 only. I'm rocking the AC1900 WiFi 5 card in a pcie slot since it it seems to upload and download faster. I wish I could replace the module in the mobo to 6e. But I can't. It works fine but I'm baffled why it's slower. Oh well, I'll keep the WiFi 5 card for now until I get a wifi 6e modem or router.
you will want to do some research yourself since I cannot speak about personal experience with the MSI, but the MSI adds 4 more USB 3.X ports to the rear I/O, and has 2 additional SATA ports. Beyond that, they are very comparable on paper.
For 200 euros in europe i been trying to find good mainboard. - 174euros : AsRock B650M PG Riptide has M.2 Gen5 but no Wifi, good VRM, Pro RS Wifi has the missing wifi but has worse VRM - 171euros : MSI Pro B650M-A Wifi has Wifi but no M.2 Gen5, good VRM - 220euros : Gigabyte B650M Aorus Elite has bowth and very good vrm but costs 220 euros and is not available for delivery to my location (wierd enough Gigabyte Intel boards are only AMD ones are not from Amazon) - 199euros : Asus TUF Gaming B650M-Plus Wifi has good vrm, M.2 Gen5 and WiFI, is available for delivery to my location If AsRock board had wifi for that price i would pick it up, if MSI board had M.2 Gen5 i would pick it up and if Gigabyte board would be available for delivery to my location i would pick it instead of Asus but since Asus board has Gen5 M.2 and Wifi i'm forced again to buy Asus TUF B650M-Plus Wifi, great vrm and features for its price. Only downside in Asus board is PCIE slot layout, AsRock and Gigabyte boards have much better PCIE slot layout, you can actually use bottom slot in those boards with 3 slot GPU.
To note with this motherboard, Asus opted to start the PCIE slotting at slot-2, so anything wider than a 2 slot card will overhand and block your lower edge connectors. My 2.5 slot 3090 Ti on this MB, the edge squishes the connectors over a bit, so a 3-slot 4080 or 4090 wouldn't fit. The Asus GENE X670E mATX doesn't have this issue, as it locates the GPU slot up another space.
Thank you, I was going to land this board for my next build but the 2slot graphics card limit is, very limiting. Much appreciated.
@@glarenbutclearn It is possible that a larger can be massaged into the MB, as I did with my 3090 Ti, depending on the design of the fan shroud of the design. If I could redo my MB purchase I might go for the Gene which is an Asus X670E mATX but places the GPU in the top upper slot. It was $200 more though at the time! When selecting a GPU, look at the design and the pictures of the TUF and see if the edge of the GPU would interfere enough with the lower end connectors to prevent safe and happy physical install.
@@paulanderegg5536 the gene looked nice until I noticed asus went with an intel 1255-v for ethernet. You saved yourself a chunk of change and a massive headache.
..... I just bought this board and a thick 4080super......
@@lalahuhuhaha39 Did it fit?
Thanks for the informative video. I'm coming off a mid-tier build from 2020, so this will be a big jump for me in terms of specs
Went for this one with Ryzen 5 7500 (non K). While more expensive than DDR4 based upgrade, this seems way more future proof with DDR5 and NVMe 5.0. I'm upgrading from I5 Haswell DDR3 (2014). Soooo... should last me until 2030.
Not really, because you forgot to get a board with pcie 5.0.
@@alexanderl9985 TUF GAMING B650M-PLUS WIFI has 5.0 ( 0:40 ) it comes equipped.
That is awesome, good luck with the new build!
@@alexanderl9985 while pcie 5.0 graphics slot would be the latest thing, pcie 4.0 is not fully utilized today. We likely wont see a performance difference between pcie 4.0 and 5.0 for at least a few generations of GPUs, and at that point the only difference would be among the top tier GPUs since they're the only ones pushing bandwidth to the limit.
what on earth are you talking about ryzen 5 7500? this cpu does not exist, and non-k is referring to an intel cpu that is non-overclockable while all amd ryzen cpus are, DDR5 is required for AM5 cpus (7000 series)
Great video, very informative. This board looking pretty good to upgrade to for sure if you have something older and needing another board. Keep up the great work CS!
Really great review.
thank you, working on more reviews as we speak
I know i'm a little late but do you know if the bottom M.2 slot use PCIe lanes from the CPU or Chipset?
Just bought this for my ryzen 7 7800x3d and rtx 3090 😊
hows it going?
@@godlike69r amazing 4k ultra at 130fps 1440p at over 200fps but I prefer 4k didn't want any lower then 120fps so I'm happy 😀
Thank you for the video, not enough videos out there to help choose an M-ATB board.
For using this board with a 7800X3D, 7900 XTX, aio cooling, D31 mesh SC screen case, corsair SF850L, 64 GB DDR5 6k trident neo dram and the WD-Black s850nx 2TB ssd would this be the best board to go with? There are not a ton of quality m-ATX boards out there and I am torn between this, the MSI Mortar (but forces you to put GPU in 2nd slot so not sure about that with bottom fans) and I think the Aorus, and the high end ASUS ROG board.
Also, do you suggest using the boards heatsink for the SSD or using an SSD with its own heatsink?
Thank you.
How does this compare to the crosshair x670e gene
ASUS is pretty notorious for its bloatware. My ASUS laptop, for example, has over a dozen ASUS processes in the task manager. This motherboard looks great, but I am worried, does it come with bloatware?
As far as I can say, it doesnt even come with a driver cd.
I have only armory crate installed.
@@leinadreign3510 armory crate is pretty much bloatware
I read somewhere that you can only install graphics cards up to 2,5 slots wide. Any truth to that?
Wow I found the “how it’s made channel” I’m disappointed that I didn’t learn how the sausage is made but I am happy to learn how it’s eaten.
Also cool mobo love the new LGA system
plenty of camera sausage in your channel podcast
The question I have is: Is the AM5 platform, almost 6 months after its release, stable enough to consider investing in this platform. Or should I wait a bit longer to avoid the headaches that might come with early adopters of new platforms. I currently run a old i5 4440 and am looking to build a new rig. I would like to go with the AM5 platform because it gives me a great path to upgrade only the cpu several years down the line when the AM5 platform reaches its end of lifespan; not having to invest in a complete new rig.
Personally, I have had zero stability issues, and I built two AM5 systems.
@@Creating_Space Have you built those systems with the Asus TUF B650 mb showcased in this vid? (I was considering this mb myself). Thanks in advance!
i have same case and motherboard building one now with 4070
build went sweet, great features!
@@trbocarAppreciate the update
@@trbocarwhat brand of 4070 did u get
And is it a ATX case or Micro ATx
@@willy7968 UserBenchmarks: Game 208%, Desk 117%, Work 239%
Case is a Asus ap201 white case
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7900X - 115.3%
GPU: Nvidia RTX 4070 "Asus dual oc 4070" - 183.6%
SSD: WD Black SN770 NVMe PCIe M.2 1TB - 479.9%
HDD: Seagate Expansion Desk 4TB - 57.9%
RAM: Unknown F5-6000J3636F16G 2x16GB - 177%
MBD: Asus TUF GAMING B650M-PLUS WIFI
it fits only matx or itx motherboards no fullsize atx get the matx version
im going to build a system for gaming with this motherboard. Which AMD processor model and CPU cooler should I choose? I think to buy AMD Ryzen 9 7900X
Does this already have wifi when you unbox or do you have to buy another wifi antenna? (i'm a newbie)
It comes with an antenna in the box. But it is one antennha to place on your desk and attached via two cables, which is a bit uneasy to screw in.
Can we use ryzen 9 7k/8k series Processor with this mobo?
in which PCI slot should I insert the graphics card?
the top one will offer best performance, good luck!
Are the wifi antenna magnetic?
what is the difference between the 650M-E and the 650M-Plus? is that just a microatx version with the pcie 5.0 for example.
Same question. Do you know nơ
The e version has less (8) vrm phases whitch is not suitable for power hungry cpu.
what is your memory details? thank you
I got the fill size version. I am disappointed it is wifi 6 only. I'm rocking the AC1900 WiFi 5 card in a pcie slot since it it seems to upload and download faster. I wish I could replace the module in the mobo to 6e. But I can't. It works fine but I'm baffled why it's slower. Oh well, I'll keep the WiFi 5 card for now until I get a wifi 6e modem or router.
That and the older bluetooth on the motherboard are the only thing I regret about this board.
@@ChrisLesmerises my Bluetooth doesn't work at all.
how many ssd does it fit?
???
The expo doesnt Works on Mine TUF b650 :(
are you using the latest BIOS? What memory are you using?
@@Creating_Space yes, last version 1222, Memo is hyperx beast
Yes me too
6000 cl30 gskill z rydent
@@gospelfighter6548 set the speed to 5600mhz worked for me
is this what excellent mic sounds like?
codec? Alc1220A?
unfortunately Asus doesn't seem to have published the codec details. I did find mention that it is Realtek ALC S1200A.
Hi this or MSI mortar
you will want to do some research yourself since I cannot speak about personal experience with the MSI, but the MSI adds 4 more USB 3.X ports to the rear I/O, and has 2 additional SATA ports. Beyond that, they are very comparable on paper.
Guess my rx 7800 xt wont fit this huh...
You ever figure out if it'll fit? I was going to get this with a rx 7700 xt
@@jkulysses the 7800 was to big.
@Darktophat_10 ya i decided to go with the Msi Mag Mortar mb & rx 7800xt gpu so hopefully won't have any clearance issues.
what type of case is this please
asus prime AP201, comes in black or white
Can it run Intel?
☺️ *Promosm*
Terrible explanation, kinda hoped for like a tutorial like explanation on how to build the pc.
For 200 euros in europe i been trying to find good mainboard.
- 174euros : AsRock B650M PG Riptide has M.2 Gen5 but no Wifi, good VRM, Pro RS Wifi has the missing wifi but has worse VRM
- 171euros : MSI Pro B650M-A Wifi has Wifi but no M.2 Gen5, good VRM
- 220euros : Gigabyte B650M Aorus Elite has bowth and very good vrm but costs 220 euros and is not available for delivery to my location (wierd enough Gigabyte Intel boards are only AMD ones are not from Amazon)
- 199euros : Asus TUF Gaming B650M-Plus Wifi has good vrm, M.2 Gen5 and WiFI, is available for delivery to my location
If AsRock board had wifi for that price i would pick it up, if MSI board had M.2 Gen5 i would pick it up and if Gigabyte board would be available for delivery to my location i would pick it instead of Asus but since Asus board has Gen5 M.2 and Wifi i'm forced again to buy Asus TUF B650M-Plus Wifi, great vrm and features for its price.
Only downside in Asus board is PCIE slot layout, AsRock and Gigabyte boards have much better PCIE slot layout, you can actually use bottom slot in those boards with 3 slot GPU.
And what you got, how is running