Movie Family Therapy: A GOOFY MOVIE
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How do you reconcile damaged relationships between parents and children?
Licensed therapist Jonathan Decker and filmmaker Alan Seawright are taking a look at the father-son relationship between Goofy and Max in A Goofy Movie. They’re talking about how children naturally distance themselves from their parents as they age and how parents can stay connected while giving them space. Jonathan explains why parents push their kids, and both him and Alan share the weird roadside attractions they’ve subjected their children to.
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Written by: Megan Seawright, Jonathan Decker, and Alan Seawright
Produced by: Jonathan Decker, Megan Seawright, Alan Seawright, and Corinne Demyanovich
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I agree with you. The stupid principle blew what Max did out of proportion and he AND Pete put thoughts in Goofy's head! They basically called Max a bad kid just because he's (checks notes) acting like teenage boy and trying to impress a girl like ANY teenage boy?!
@@elizabethescalante8114Funny enough though it's still somewhat realistic. Growing up I myself had an ableist teacher that would ignore IEPs and actively set kids up for failure. She would spit all kinds of half truths and made up nonsense to the principal and my parents to murder my grade and get me detentions and have me do summer school. With my parents in particular believing every word until several years later. Some teachers genuinely see anything outside the accepted norm or anything but blind obedience as a terrible thing that must be stamped out.
@@kaylawoodbury2308 I'm sorry you had to go through that. Did your parents ever apologize to you for not believing you?
@@elizabethescalante8114 My dad at least has in my adult years. My mom no, using this movie as a reference I guess you could say my mom is more of a Pete and my dad is more of a Goofy. Mom's more narcissistic and authoritarian and dad really cared but was still stuck on this idea that the adult in the situation is more trustworthy than the kid.
This movie is perfect because when you're young, you are totally on Max's side. When you grow old, you begin to see the things like Goofy and thus the circle is complete and you become a better parent.
When youre older and you want to send your kid to a possum camp and take him away from his friends and socializing to get chased in the middle of the woods by bigfoot and dragged down a river off a waterfall......im 28 and im still on Max's Side LOL
Precisely, you typically only understand your parents more when you start raising your own children.
What I like about this movie is that you can see both sides no matter how old you are
I fully disagree with this statement because when I was kid watching this movie and now as an adult I empathize with both Goofy and Max but I also see where they’re both wrong:
On one hand Max is at points hard on his father and he screws up when he lies to him about the map and when he lies to Roxanne (though to be fair I think Roxanne kinda makes the same mistake as Goofy when she doesn’t fully listen to Max thus making Max lie to her) when he should definitely appreciate his Dad’s love especially when he looks at PJ’s relationship with his Dad, but it’s easy to understand his anger, stubbornness and frustration at the beginning when his father makes him go on this vacation that he was not ready for just when earned the respect of his classmates and had a date with Roxanne and is given NO clear explanation by his Dad why they’re going on this vacation.
Goofy on the other hand I totally empathize that he wants to spend quality time with his son and make sure Max is being raised right but the problem is that I don’t think he fully considers Max’s feelings or at least his perspective. For starters he literally only takes the Principle’s word and immediately plans the trip when he really should have been more up front with Max about what happened at school the moment he came home and let Max explain HIS side of the story. Then he takes very toxic advice from Pete which of course only pushes Max away more so he barely gives Max any say in any matter until he makes him navigator and gives him the map, but even when he first finds out about Max changing the map he’s just angry and still doesn’t give Max a chance to explain himself and of course it’s not until they’re stranded in the river do they both finally start talking and listening to each other!
It's not about what he does but about the emotions that drive it. Sure his reaction was not perfect but as a mature adult you can't help but empathize with a dad who desperately wants to connect with his son and ensure he is on the path to success, even if he doesn't quite know how to do that. @@rowan1275
"I'm not your little boy anymore, Dad. I've grown up, I've got my own life now!"
"I know that! I just wanted to be part of it."
Just this 2 lines are why Goofy Movie understand parents-children relationship better than any other movies.
Gets me every single time
I prefer the delivery in the car with the solemn silence after.❤
You know, you got a point lol
Yes!!👏🏼👏🏼😼🎉🎉
I had a rocky relationship with my Dad growing up. Those lines always hit like a truck now.
I really respected my dad when he sat me down and told his teenage son that he understood why I hid things. Saying, “adults control everything, when you go to bed, what you eat, what you wear. The only thing kids can control is who knows your emotions and your secrets”. He said it’s okay if I don’t want to talk about stuff, just as long as if I’m not okay I let him know.
That's amazing. I love it.
he sounds like a baller ass dad
Wow. Respect. I want to do that for my kids
GOD that is peak parenting ❤ I'm so glad you had a dad like that.
My philosophy with my kid is: you don't have to tell me everything, but please know that I never want you to feel like you have to *HIDE* something from me.
Well, that and "That doesn't make any sense to me; but you are very small, perhaps you're right."
I just love how Goofy's reaction to his son's confession after the make-up song isn't just "aw that's cute you have a crush", but also "I am going to HELP you pull off this crazy plan that nobody has any right to believe would work.".
Even MAX, when he thinks about it, doesn't think it's feasible and even tries to convince his dad they should just go home and tell Roxanne the truth, but nope! His son needs to be on stage with Powerline to impress his girl! He's gonna make it happen!
That's such a Goofy thing!
It's rather hilarious that one of the most accurate and raw portrayals of fatherhood comes not from a pristige drama, but an animated spin off character.
Right? 😂
That's the power of good writers and storytellers!
It's because you don't see it coming. Depth is woven into to the...well, Goofyness
@@CinemaTherapyShow In all honesty, Goofy (and Max) handles the Parent/Son relationship scenario a lot better than most films did. Heck, I’d rather watch this movie than dealing with Turning Red, because the worst thing to coming out of Mei being in the right would be her twerking her butt in rebellion against her own mother… not even Cinderella, when she had Disney DTV Sequels, would even do that to her stepmother (despite Lady Tremaine being completely in the wrong for abusing Ella), because I bet it would only escalade the problem in “A Twist in Time”, and have her executed if she were to do that. Sometimes, using your words is better than using action, because not everything has to be done by action.
And it's a story revolving around a character named Goofy and his son. The fact that they made a movie where you could actually take Goofy seriously is pretty impressive.
Goofy raises his son as a single father and has to deal with the ups and downs of that.
Donald is raising his three nephews with the help of his uncle and friends.
Mickey has been beating around the bush with the same girl for 94 years.
Based
Maybe Mickey and Minnie are reproductively challenged or just don't want children, we don't know their story 😂
It's shown that they lived together at least once. Why did they never tie the knot?
A random fact but in the comics, Mickey also had nephews, twins called Morty and Ferdie but they live with their parents and only sometimes visit Mickey.
@@aino-kaisav5504 Finally someone who acknowledges Morty and Ferdie! We got Huey, Duey, and Louie ALL the time, but everyone forget about Mickey's nephews :)
One of my favorite parts is when Goofy gives the map to Max who then goes on to having them do things Max likes. Max, noticing his dad isn't enjoying everything he likes, decides to have them go to a place his dad enjoys. Goofy seems to lack understanding of what Max likes (for the most part) but Max does know what Goofy likes and chooses to make time to do those things Goofy enjoys during the trip.
Roxane was, like, *everyone's* "this better not awaken anything in me" moment. Her or Princess Sally.
I like that goofy and max literally are trying to navigate turbulent waters.
I never saw it like that😅😅😂😂
And notice how they're both still trying to save eachother from the running rapids, even as they're arguing. Whoever wrote that, bravo.
I never even thought of that
I also love that right after Goofy finally delivers that crucial line about how he just wanted to be part of Max's life the waters calmed.
"How was Max conceived?"
If you've seen the disco scene from the sequel, you know Goofy has *GAME* we just don't see it often 😂
Oh heavens, but imagine the noise.... "Guh-HYUK!"
Goofy's wife was a babe. She passed on, sadly. it's explained in Goof Troop
@@leighmartin9187 he game her his strongest "Guh-HYUK!" right before she passed, and then stayed loyal to her, thats a good man
Yeah, but who was the mother and where is she??
@@OwlBard she died, we dont know how, but she is dead
Max goof is possibly the most relatable teenager Disney has made.
Watching your channel makes me realise how messed up my family was (mostly still is). They aren't abusive in any way, but realising that there are parents who actually care about their children's feelings and interests was an eye-opener.
I love that Powerline doesn't kick Max and Goofy out of the concert after Goofy accidentally ends up on stage. He looks impressed, and even better, his song "I2I", is all about reconciliation, and reaching an understanding with those we love no matter how different we may be from them.
I love that too!!!
"There are no accidents." -ooguay
Who could have foreseen(!)
It’s _almost_ like the song was _written specifically_ to reflect on this exact thing!
(!)
My family has the theory that Goofy actually knows Powerline like Max lied about to Roxanne, and that's why Powerline doesn't kick them off the stage. Not that they were close friends or anything, but Powerline was like "wait- Goof from that college improv group? No way dude!" And just rolls with it cuz he's cool
@@averagegirl7113 either this or Powerline didn't want to ruin the show by grinding it to a halt halfway through a number just to kick a couple of people off the stage.
Goofy is a widower, he had a wife, she died, not sure how or anything but its true. Also his name is George, there's a whole cartoon series about it. Which is pretty fun, I think he might be the most developed character out of the three mains; Mickey, Donald & Goofy
I mean if we count Ducktales 2017, Donald’s not far behind with his relationship with his family, the three caballeros, and Daisy being pretty interesting. Mickey’s the only one who needs some good story development (though Epic Mickey and the newer 2d cartoons are a good start)
Yea it was George Maximilian Goof but they always just called him Maxi or max
Wait, but Donald has a whole family tree filled out. Scrooge McDuck, and his grand-nephews, Huey, Louie and Dewey, are at the center of “Ducktales,” one of my favorite cartoons growing up. Recently I stumbled upon a canonic family tree and the ducklings are the children of Donald and another duck lady. Daisy is Donald’s latest fling. In the meantime Donald’s dad is Scrooge’s brother, both born in Scotland. And Donald is on leave with the navy, that’s why he leaves his children with a beloved uncle. It’s all very elaborate and explains so much of “Ducktales.”
I use to watch that cartoon as a kid
@@Lady_ETHNEdoes Kingdom Hearts also count for Mickey? Somewhat ties into Sorcerer’s Apprentice from Fantasia anyway
"If we listen to each other's heart We'll find we're never too far apart ,And maybe love is the reason why, For the first time ever, we're seeing it eye to eye"
Growing up with narcissistic parents made this movie impossible for me and my sister to enjoy when we were kids. I remember sitting through that conversation between Goofy and Pete with my Mom agreeing with Pete over my shoulder. When "Chicken Little" eventually came out, she agreed with Buck Cluck, up until he acknowledged that his love wasn't something his son had to earn. She stopped the movie to tell me that Buck was wrong and her love was something we (my sister and i) had to earn. Long story short, I have a list of Disney movies I don't watch because of her.
I'm glad I'm not alone with these thoughts. There's certain set of disney movies that outright make me feel like I could crawl out of my skin because of my narcissistic parent. Goofy movie is very high on that list. 😐
I'm so sorry that parents like this ruin movies and entertainment with their poisonous issues. Narcissism is the worst especially when a parent is immature enough to harm a child, it's horrible.
On the contrary
She's the one that needs to earn your love and respect as soon as you understand the difference between good and evil
Parents must show their children almost unconditional love and support 24-7
@GarkKahn Yeah but we know that other parents don't and they don't care cuz they're ALWAYS like that.
I had a foster parent who was like Pete. P.J. is definitely being abused.
The hot tub scene with goofy and Pete is a good example of what not to do. Pete’s idea of parenting is “keeping them under your thumb” as a result PJ is afraid of him.
You know it's a real shock that PJ never grew up to be like his dad. Even in Goof Troop, him and Max seem to get along very well.
@@osmanyousif7849Max's friendship is probably what saved PJ from ending up in a bad way.
And Pete lost in the end, in the series he had a wife and daughter but in the movie they are no where to be found. I guess the wife was tired of his arrogant attitude and left with the daughter. I believe that Pete was jealous of Goofy and Max complicity and indirectly tried to destroy it.
@@rosettesionne9139 yeah cause he was blatantly eavesdropping on max pj and brought up the whole changing the map to Goofy.
@@pikachick222 Yes Pete was blatantly eavesdropping but he was in the right to tell Goofy that his trust was being manipulated. The way he went about it however wasn't the way to do it.
"No matter how big you get, you'll always be my son." That line always brings me to tears, our parents see us at every stage of our lives, so it's hard for them to let their babies spread their wings, but know that they need to live their own lives as well.
I think when I was a kid I didn't really think about Goofy's actions and just thought him an ordinary/cliche parent, but as an adult I can really see several points where he needed to be more mature and just have an open and respectful conversation - I think there are still issues at the end of this movie because despite that they reconcile, Goofy could still work on his hard conversation skills. Parents are in positions of power and there are certain responsibilities that go with that, and more accountability that needs to be taken.
I discovered this movie when I was a teen and my dad had left my home. I both loved and hated it because at the time I was jealous of Max because I wished my dad cared half as much as Goofy did. It wasnt until I was in my 30s that I saw it again and realized I that relationship with my mom and my dad missed all of it.
Mad respect for Goofy for helping me appreciate my mom even though the movie is about father's and sons.
It's usually hard for me to watch reactions to "A Goofy Movie" because there's usually so much hate on Max for being a brat. An aspect that I think a lot of people don't understand is that Max has grown up taking care of Goofy. If you watched Goof Troop or even Mickey's Once Upon A Christmas, you see 8-12 year old Max having to parent Goofy a lot. Having to clean up after him. One of the reasons I enjoy the blowup and resolution song is because that is hinted at. ("I'm probably too stupid to understand, right?", Max gets to his side of the car and gets Goofy in the car, "See you ruin everything!"). It's not just the trip. It's not just that Max is embarrassed by Goofy. He's been the parent, and now he's a moody teen and it's all coming out. Being a parentifed child myself, I just always related so much.
And "Nobody else but You" is such a good resolution song. Max says your mind is missing a screw but whatever happens, you are there for me. And the line "Though he seems intoxicated, he's just highly animated" says a lot. "Hard times, we've had a few", they've gone through a lot together and Max understands and appreciates him. But it's tough when your dad is Goofy.
Thank you for adding needed context, I did not know this!
I never even watched Goof Troop and that other thing yet I relate to Max. Holy flip, as someone who also had to parent my Mom, now I relate to Max even more!
THIS. SO MUCH THIS. People assume that parentification is just when the kid is taking care of the other siblings or when they have to sustain themselves, but people often overlook the emotional incest where the parent behaves like a kid and the kid is forced to deal with the mess their parents do. Goofy cares deeply about Max, but my lord was Max parentified in the Goof Troop and the specials, where he IS left responsible for his father's emotions and HE has to take care of him or cheer him up or snap him out of it, and let's not even talk about the messes he created. Goofy might have taken care of Max as in, well, love him, keep him fed, dressed and a roof over his head, but that's like BASIC parenting, but in terms of emotions and responsibility, Max has been acting like the parent. This isn't adressed enough.
I didn't know this either! Thank you!
@@dracoangelrojo Wow! I think you said it more eloquently than I did. Thanks!!
The line about "Max already knowing that his father doesn`t listen" makes me realize how much this movie is a perfect continuation of the "Goof Troop" cartoon series. There Max was already the straight one to Goofys silliness, despite being in his early teens at best.
yaaass Goof Troop mentioned and acknowledged
@@Carossmo I love this series. The dynamic between Goofy and Max is great, the dynamic between Pete and Goofy is great, Petes family is also hilarious (the right people found each other, it is a miracle PJ turned out to be the straight and upright one.^^
The perfect glow up from the series!
The narrative continuality and development of Max and Goofy and their relationship between Goof Troop, A Goofy Movie, An Extremely Goofy Movie, and Mickey's Twice Upon a Christmas is honestly insane. It's the most consistent example of it in the Disney universe I think!
@@aureliodeprimus8018 Pete and Goofy weren't so close, in the series Goofy even openly admitted he think Pete was cold and arrogant. But by his nature, he is just the type of person to not take things too seriously and live in the present. That is the main reason why they rarely quarrel despite Pete constantly making fun of Goofy, he just don't take it at heart.
My son turns 13 next week, and I can feel him slowly gaining more and more independence from me, this one hit so close to home for me. I try so hard to make sure he knows I love him and want to be around him should he want to be around me, but I also know that this period of independence and exploration is SO IMPORTANT, and I was robbed of my own childhood and formative years due to my own mother’s abuse…man, you guys gave me SO MUCH to think about with this video. Thank you thank you thank you ❤
As they say, "The more you try to hang on to someone, the more you push them away". I'm glad more people are seeing that while Max was being a brat through out the movie, Goofy wasn't exactly in the right either for trying to bond with Max in a very self-centered way. Summer vacation is what... 3 months long? Goofy had plenty of time to go on a camping trip with Max. Don't force it just because of some irrational fear. Even in a parent/child relationship, communication is important. Lack of communication is what led to the events in the movie.
lmao not your editor writing an entire dissertation in the cutaway extolling the virtues of eddie world
And the part about getting a pickle at Pickle’s in Arco is amazing!!!
i want to see our dear editor's hat collection
But they did write a dissertation.
Why are you claiming they didn't?
I think part of why Max hated the trip was because destinations like the rat amusement place are meant for really young children. Goofy was very young when his parents took him there. Whereas Max is in his Teens and has clearly outgrown that part of his life. Had Goofy taken Max to those places when Max was a child, things may have gone differently
I used to go to this thing where they would put on plays for kids, all different kinds of plays. Sure, they were fun, but when I realized I'd grown taller than all the other attendees, I realized I'd gotten too old for it.
Fortunately, my parents understood this and didn't drag me along. So, yeah, I can see that would really get to Max.
Plus, people like Goofy enjoy this kind of stuff regardless of their ages. And he's not really connected with what Max likes, so he's just hoping his son will enjoy what he does.
Goofy was basically taking Max on a trip through his childhood, showing Max all the silly things he liked as a little kid, but the problem is that Max wasn’t the right age for it, because he’s a teenager, and so naturally he’s gonna think this stuff is lame, a trip like that would be more suited for when Max is in his late 20’s/early 30’s, because by then he’s mature enough to appreciate that stuff because he understands it’s what his dad grew up with and has fond memories of rather than just thinking it’s dumb because he’s concerned with being cool
I get the "wanting to show your kid the thing you loved as a kid" but its also about timing. I think if you ask at the right time in their life they will be up for it.
This movie has a special place in my heart. It burns deeply having a child there who has so much going on that he just can't share with his dad because of how his dad's love and desire for him to be "normal" bowls over him every time, even when he just wants to be understood as his own person
Ah, 90’s kids unite!! A film from our collective memory has entered the CT universe!
I wouldn't stop requesting this film in the comments all year 😂
To the point they actually noticed XD
We had an audio drama version of the movie (with Finnish dub) on a cassette tape, and still probably have it somewhere at my home. The fact that those exist is really, an extra 90s thing added. I never was a big fan of the movie as a kid, but after I've gotten older, I've started to appreciate it.
I'm born in 2003 but I grew up with a bunch of 90s kid big brothers, so I'm really familiar with most of the 90s stuff (I learned to use a VHS player before I knew how to use a DVD player, lol.)
Who would've ever guessed that Goofy, of all people, would go on to be the star of one of Disney's best animated family dramas? 😊
He must've taken Jessica Rabbit's "Better than Goofy" comment as a personal challenge.
I love that, growing up, I always thought, "What the hell is Goofy's problem? Let Max be!". As an older teen, I always think, "What the hell is Max's problem? Spend time with your dad!". Now, as an adult, I can see and feel for both sides
My favorite part is when goofy uses the cigarette lighter to cook the can and says "i guess it really is good for something" its just such a nice disney touch , acknowledging something bad and turning it wholesome
I love how organic the conflict is for Max and Goofy. Sadly, Goofy feels estranged from his son, but we must understand where Max comes from. Teenagers are struggling to understand themselves and going through the complications of puberty. Quality parents like Goofy try to relate to their children despite being long estranged from the same problems at that age. Both want to connect but struggle to understand each point of view. That's why communication is essential. This movie's understanding of that problem's roots is why it continues to connect with audiences.
But Goofy didn´t want to "relate" to Max. He never acknowledged Max´s own hobbies or tastes, and didn´t try to at least understand them. Instead he tried forcing HIS own hobbies and likes onto Max. That is literaly the opposite of relating.
@@veronikamajerova4564 That's true, which is why I said try to relate. He was shocked when realizing that Max has different hobbies and learns to accept that through the storyline rather than force that change.
I love that this film shows both leads in the right AND in the wrong. There is no parent-child abuse but genuine love and misunderstanding that needs to be communicated. Peak film! ❤
I skipped out on seeing this movie when I was a kid and ended up seeing it for the first time as an adult. And I fell in love. Max was relatable and it made me happy to see Goofy come around and finally listen to his son and care about what his son cares about. Wonderful movie.
The relationship between Goofy and Max is one of the most complicated, mysterious, and amazing relationship out of all the core mascots. A goofy movie showed their relationship when Max was a teen, and An Extremely goofy movie showed their relationship with Max as a young adult after their relationship began to heal, but Mickey's once upon a christmas shows their relationship when Max was a kid. Goofy was a single father, probably ever since Max was born since we never see pictures of Max's mom or even hear him talk about her, and he was Max's best friend. But even from when their relationship was still in good standing, you can see that Max is far more mature than Goofy, even going as far as comforting his father when he goes too far with his shenanigans.
My theory for this is Max grew up knowing his father was eccentric, and through his teen years he turned to resent him. Its actually a pretty great storyline starting with Mickey's Once Upon a Christmas, going through A Goofy Movie and An Extremely Goofy Movie, and finally concluding with Mickey's Twice Upon a Christmas where Max is on his own, completely reconciled with his dad, but nervous about bringing his girlfriend home for Christmas (Highly recommend that short, the movie is crap, but that one short made it worth watching).
ALSO, this movie is very special to me and my dad. We watched it a lot when I was a kid and always sang the "nobody else but you" as a duet. My Dad is a real-life Goofy, and I just know this movie is going to make me sob when he's gone.
*sings Eye to Eye in my head, then runs away for the shame*
No shame in singing Eye to Eye!
The song is amazing I don’t blame you
@CinemaTherapyShow LOL knowing the words by heart is definitely confirms my age. That's it's own psychic damage Fathers of Cinema and Mental Wellness.
*record stratch* talking of psychic damage, thinking of Goofy's um... life like that is not a thing my mental health needs 😬😂. Cheers Jonathan
Where is the shame? The song goes MEGA HARD!!!
Alan's growing dread while Jono verbally tries to figure out the math of Goofy + ??? = Max has been one of the highlights of my week, and its only Tuesday.
To answer his question, there was some old Goofy short animations in the 60s or 70s or around that time where Goofy had a wife, so presumably, this is that timeline. A lovely Finnish UA-camr called ZoneVD made a video about the topic, although sadly, the video's only in Finnish.
So uh, it's canon that at least one iteration of Goofy has indeed, had sex.
since this is a comic maybe he was delivered by a stork.
I love how even though they are upset about each other they still help each other on the roof of the car in the river 20:32 . Goofy pushes Max up and Max pulls Goofy in return without even communicating about it.
I love this movie. I watched it recently with my 7 year old niece. By the end, she asked who the bad guy was, and I had to explain to her that it was a lack of communication and connection 😅
“We don’t know…the sexual history..of goofy goofster”
*awkward silence and zoom in*
💀💀💀
I fucking died LOL!
My video cut to an ad for 'a footlong' 😳😲🫣
Goofy is a king and he puts it down
the sad part? we do he had canonical girl friends and flings through out his history including a cow.
@@caseydenimore6315 clarabelle!
Goofy learning how to use GPS would make an awesome cartoon. The man is known for the how to commercials
Yes! He was in all those old 50s style ads with the narrator.
Omg I LOVE THOSE!
"How to use a GPS" Goofy short...
@@anamaria-thecreativenerdd they did a bunch of them for the pandemic too.
@@booey316 😍 :::: furiously searches for them all on UA-cam::::::
Oh my god, I LOVE this movie!!!! This is one of my biggest "comfort food" movies. No matter how many times I watch it, I NEVER get tired of it.
“A Goofy Movie” was an absolute classic and it’s a fundamental part of my childhood I’m so happy you talked about it!!
“Or I love you-“ is probably my favorite line because it hurts so much seeing them trying to bond and Goody feels like he ruined it I just wanted to hug him when I watched it as a kid
I do wish y’all talked about Pete and PJ’s relationship and the differences between them and Max and Goofy, the lines “My son loves me.” “My son respects me.” hit me hard as a kid that had a narcissistic parent and I think about it a lot
Okay so Goofys actual name is George Goof, and he had married a red head woman and conceived Max. She was present (albeit in voice and headless form only) in early Disney cartoons and you can hear her calling him "George". :)
I wonder if it's canon that he divorced her after realizing she's been cheating on him with the milkman.
@@Dairunt1 actually i believe she passed in disney canon... But id have to double check. In goof troop goofy often refers to her lovingly through pictures and albums and max is also shown to be on good terms with her (hes younger there too, like little kid). Goofy also is shown remembering her fondly, so I don't think its a divorce thing
That's actually a Goofy Short film, and a ton of these are basically set in alternate worlds where every living thing's basically another Goofy, but given a different, more generic name like George. There's actually quite a ton of them, and they basically tackle darker and more adult subjects such as adultery and murder.
@@REALmikegordan its still in my headcanon that Goofy is a nickname and his actual name is George Goof.
From Wikipedia
In his 1950s cartoons, he usually played a character called George G. Geef. Sources from the Goof Troop continuity give the character's full name as G. G. "Goofy" Goof, likely in reference to the 1950s name. In many other sources, both animated and comics, the surname Goof continues to be used.
I can imagine that from Goofy’s perspective the distance between he and Max would seem to come out of nowhere. Little kids would love all the silly slapstick and funny voice of Goofy, but then Max hits adolescence and all of that stuff feels uncomfortable and embarrassing as he’s desperately trying to fit in and be respected. And teenage feelings are so intense and feel so straight-forward where you’re in the middle of them that it makes sense that Max would be shocked at his dad’s seeming lack of self-awareness. It’s all very relatable.
Teenage feels and adult ones are 2 very different ends of the spectrum because as a teenager you start to care too much about what others think of you, whereas when you’re an adult you don’t really care what anyone else thinks of you, that’s why Goofy had no shame in doing that dance in front of of people but Max was like “Dad stop! This is embarrassing!” It’s a great display of the 2 different stages of self esteem that comes with age
That scene where Goofy pulls over brings back so many memories from tense car rides either to or from school, usually because I forgot something like my lunchkit or a jacket, or I lost my lunchkit or my jacket (this happened often in elementary/middle school). We got better about it, but I can just FEEL that tension through the screen in that scene like I'm there.
The look Goofy gives in the car when Max chooses to shout out the directions to L.A instead of the directions to where they were gonna go fishing says it all, Goofy wasn’t even looking at the map but he knew when Max panically shouted left he chose L.A, and his look was one of “I’m very disappointed in you Max”
I haven't seen this movie since I was like 7 or 8 years old(Am 34 now), but that "Hi, Dad" Soup scene is still ingrained in me to this day as such a feel good moment and is hands down one of my favorite scenes in any animated movie. Thank you guys so much for having it here. I still love this movie and if I have the pleasure of having kids it will be one of the movies I put on for them as toddlers.
Bigfoot dancing to "Stayin' Alive" lives rent free in my head; am 30.
As a child, you may relate to Max more, yet as a parent, you see where Goofy is coming from more.
Goof is a good dad. I enjoyed seeing how unashamed he is to admit he loves his kid. Cartoon dads back then... not so great at that. My dad is a much of a goof. I am proud to say as his daughter so am I 🤪. Only diff, people pay me (sometimes) for my clownery.
@@Firegen1I can understand that
Nah, I'm still on Max's side. As someone who's had to deal with a guilt trippy parent, that scene of Goofy guilt tripping just re-ignited him as public enemy #1 for me again.
You can be on one side, yet also consider the other side… This isn’t an irreparable situation, they’re just not seeing each other’s perspectives until the end.
The meme "THE DEMONS TOLD ME TO", I was not ready for that 😂
I love that the ad break kicked in as soon as he questioned Max's conception.
Lost my dad last month. We were good friends and spent a lot of time together. I grew up on this movie and I think in some way, it contributed to my dad and I's good relationship.
FINALLY
Cinema Therapy has covered the Goofy Movie
I love anything that Goofy is in because his relationship with Max is very similar to what I have with my dad. Yes it’s a father/daughter relationship what we have. He still sees me as his little girl but he’s helped me grow into the woman I am today. There has been pressure and stress and we’ve had our fights but now at age 29, he is still my best friend and we’ve both become caretakers for my mom since she was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer
Okay, now I need to watch this movie. My dad and I have had our difficulties over the years because he raised me to be independent but he still sees me as his little girl. I often feel like he should be proud of his 37-year-old for being so independent but he feels like he needs to fix my problems. (One solution is that I tell him how I fixed a problem then backtrack and tell him what the problem was!)
❤❤❤May your family continue to endure. I can’t even imagine. For all it’s worth, I love that you and your dad are so close and have such a great bond.
@@tiffanypersaud3518 Thank you
@@jillianromick5353 As I get older myself, I realize that my parents are getting older and that they have a head start and want to know they can be needed, even if it’s for small things.
Literally, if Max was just honest to his Dad that he was in love with an anthropomorphic baddie... it would have solved everything from the beginning, and the movie would have been over in 10 minutes
So glad you reviewed this great movie. Always thought despite Goofy's missteps and faults, he is a really good dad. He made sure his son never doubted he loved Max even when he annoyed him. Parents and kids will always have differences. It is how you learn from communication and understanding is what matters. Only now that i am older and more outspoken, can i communicate more productively with my dad. We are working on our understanding all the time and forced to communicate now that mom passed away and is no longer the filter between us. We have our moments, but at least we aren’t giving up.
Now you need to do Meet The Robinsons. Underratted and all about family dynamics.
"Eye to eye" and "Stand Out" are two of my favourite songs ever. This is easily one of my favorite movies of all time. Thank you for doing it in your show.
I wouldn't stop requesting this film in the comments all year, to the point they actually noticed 😂
@@Sly-Moose Lol, you do good work sir and I thank you for it!
As you have done a goofy movie, have you thought about doing the sequel? I feel the sequel covers empty nest syndrome and also about parents learning to let their adult children go and live their own adult lives, while still always being a parent.
And the disco scene is freaking rad. Its always sweet when you see a widower get to be happy with someone again.
that would be a good movie / sequel to analyze
My favorite part in the movie is after Max changes the map and the stops are so much more enjoyable, he sees that his dad isn't having fun at the places he's picking and finds stuff that's just for Goofy and eventually they're going to places they both love and are genuinely having fun together.
I remember owning this movie on VHS and I loved the song "Nobody else, but you" so much that I kept rewinding it to the point where that entire section of the VHS just didn't work anymore. The rest of the movie played fine, but that song was absolutely gone for the rest of eternity.
Love all of the other songs too but for some reason, "Nobody else, but you" was my absolute favorite.
I always have loved that Goofy is not shown as one of those Disney parents that is just there to be a foil for the younger main character. He and Max just need to learn to communicate and respect each other's boundaries. Yet we are also shown how he is an actual parent who deeply loves his son. At the end of the day Goofy is still Goofy and is showing us How to Be a Single Father.
Also, don't forget that Powerline watched someone perform a dance move he had never seen before, then was immediately able to copy the move perfectly without any practice. 😆
omg... the editor's eddy's tirade was *chef's kiss*
I think the reason Goofy tried to manipulate Max in such an obvious way at the beginning, was more like a thing he used to do when Max was a child and always worked. I would love to see you do the second movie
You guys should really do a video on the movie Who Framed Roger Rabbit. Alan would have a field day with the filmmaking/animation and Johnathan, there are so many topics to cover with this movie alone
It's psychologically a very fraught movie, and the character development is all about coping with grief and loss. This is an excellent suggestion.
Agreed. I would love to see their take on lots of older movies played since the 80s. Not only newer ones.
Yes!!
My sister passed away this past weekend. It was and still is such a soul crushing moment for me. I just want to say thank you to both of you for being a constant source of joy, wisdom and inspiration for me.
The advice you both have given me (and your entire fan base)in the 2ish years I’ve been watching you has been nothing short of life changing and has truly helped deal with the conflicts in my life.
I’m finally at a point in my life where I can afford to get therapy and you two helped me in no small part get to that point. I’m definitely going to need it now more than ever.
You’ve also deepened my love and passion for filmmaking, and I hope to one day be able to be a part of the film industry in whatever capacity I can.
Thank you both from the bottom of my heart; please keep watching movies. ❤
Sorry for your loss❤, and I love what you are doing for yourself.
That's really tough. 😢
I'm so sorry for your loss! May your sister rest in peace 🙏❤️
realizing that things in my life definitely contributed to how much I loved this movie growing up and why it's so important to me now. Was lovely to see this breakdown.
Absolutely incredible Eddie's World editor's note, top tier, no notes xD
I adored this movie as a kid and it never occurred to me how much of a gold mine it would be for you guys to cover it. It is truly one of Disney's best works, and while I wouldn't call it underappreciated, it definitely doesn't get talked about enough.
I wouldn't stop requesting this film in the comments all year 😂 To the point they actually noticed XD
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"Exclusively on Patreon, not suitable for UA-cam"
>Posts to UA-cam anyway
23:48 was totally waiting for the editor to make a "that dog in me" joke smh
I'm already very happy that someone still remembers this movie
One of my favorite scenes is the hot tub scene, when Pete reveals Max has been tricking Goofy.
Sure, he’s being a bit smug about it, but Pete seems to genuinely be trying to help Goofy, whose response is simultaneously really heartwarming and sad, it’s all brilliantly done.
It’s crazy how weirdly mature this movie really is.
Pete seemed malicious to me and in that scene it always felt like he was happy that his friend is "failing" as a dad. 😢
@@OzmaOfOzz Nah, I just see it as him seeing the situation as proof of his parenting style being “right.”
When you look at how he says PJ “respects him,” it’s clear to me that he thinks Max should be showing Goofy that same reverence. I really think Pete was trying to help Goofy, even if his methods aren’t the best.
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I think Pete values honesty (at least this iteration); that's why he's friends with Goofy even though they're so different, both in personality and parenting style. However, both of them fail to see the bigger picture which is listening to their own son.
He's a boomer "tough love" dad, but I don't see him as malicious.
@@Dairunt1 Exactly why I love this version of Pete. He can come off as a jerk (and he kinda is), but at the end of the day, he's just another guy, and to be fair, he's not entirely wrong about his beliefs on parenting.
There's method to his madness, which makes him more likeable and more believable.
I was also one of those weird kids who adored their parents all through high school (and still do, of course). They are/were the hardest working people. My mom died my last year of high school. The anniversary of her death is next week actually. It's been more than 20 years, but this week is always filled with memories of her last days. Now, my dad is older and I don't live close any more. Miss him so much. We don't always agree on things. But, we always want the best for each other. I'm just..uh, gonna go call him and check in. Cheers!
When I was a kid, we bought our first video player, and my dad brought home my first cassette - it had an awful monotone voice-over translation into my native language. That cassette contained this movie, which quickly became my favorite. I'm in my mid-30s now, and I still sometimes rewatch it (the movie, not the cassette) waiting for the day my child grows up enough so we can watch it together.❤
Remarkable how this was released in the same year as Pocahontas, yet this lower-scope DisneyToon Studios movies completely outshines it by a freaking MILE
I used to watch this movie a lot when I was a child, then a few weeks ago I watched it with my mom and it had a whole different meaning. I think it's a perfect family movie, I'm so happy you have chosen it.
I wouldn't stop requesting this film in the comments all year, to the point they actually noticed 😂
Back in the day, my mom learned to play Yugi-oh so she could spend time with my son. I would just watch in awe
This video means a lot to me thank you Jono and Alan. This is my dad’s favorite movie and it’s been a tough time for my family, this move reminds me that we all have our flaws and we need to own up to them and listen to one another. My relationship with my dad is similar to Max and Goofy but this movie always made me feel closer to him. If you read this thank you and I love your guys’ channel it’s the best part of my lunch break lol.
That outro with Jono doing the Goofy voice is EVERYTHING. I love it!!
One other film I would recommend, is Mouse Hunt. Its about 2 brothers whose father owns a string factory. It opens up at the father's funeral and his dying wish was for them to not sell the factory, but instead run it together. Both brothers are completely different but its fun seeing how they both argue and get along.
So basically they hear about this old house their father bought and later find out its worth millions. So they decide to live in it and see what its worth, but there is a mouse. This mouse doesn’t even do much but it drives them crazy to the point of shooting up the house.
The 2 brothers are Lars and Ernie. Lars was very close to the father and is fascinated with string as a result. And Ernie is/was a top tier chef, couldn't care less about the string factory, and wants a lot of money in all that he does. But it could make a good sibling therapy video.
That movie in bonkers beyond belief, and I LOVE IT
As long as they, yknow, skip over that one part in the restaurant at the beginning. I absolutely cannot watch that scene. Iykyk
@@Boundwithflame23 YES it's one scene that I remember feeling instantly nauseous about when I was a kid
It is a movie... about Goofy and his son... going on a roadtrip...
WHY AM I CRYING BY THE END OF IT!? DAMMIT DISNEY!
That's that old school Disney Magic. It's getting rarer, but it still likes to poke out every now and again.
Watching the multiple cases of pure Psychic Damage getting thrown across that viewing couch was amazing.
this episode I've been waiting literal years for!!! even wrote essays on the dynamic between these 2 for fun!!! so glad you finally are covering it!!!
If you ever think Goofy Goof isn't sexy, remember that he nabbed a stone-cold FOX in Sylvia Marpole 😍
Roxanne wishes she could be Sylvia
That goes with this twisted theory that Roxanne cheated on Max for Goofy.
That's why she wasn't in the sequel (the lookalikes don't count), and why Max went back to hating his dad again.
Roxie took a bite of the apple (Max) but wanted the whole tree it came from (Goofy).
@@keshiaanders6452 She was in an episode of House of Mouse where she flirted with Goofy, and was promptly never seen again in future movies/shows.
@@TheMonacleSpy wtf I have stumbled upon a rabbit hole I want to unsee so bad
The editor had SO MUCH to say this episode and I'm here for it 🤭
I was raised by a single dad. This is our movie, because we were just like Goofy and Max for a while. Watching this movie at one of my counselor's recommendations years ago, it helped us when we were doing family therapy after my mom left and trying to figure out how to make life work.
THANK YOU!! i have been waiting for this!!
I have never clicked on anything harder.
Singing Max is voiced by Aaron Lohr- who was Mush in Newsies. His voice is delightful. I think he is married to Edina Menzel now. Oh. Also- he was Dean Portman in D2 and D3. I adore his career.
Oh shit, I remember him! ❤ I loved him in all those movies too.
He was in the movie version of Rent too in the support group for AIDS
Wow how did I not know they were married? Crazy!
@@anamaria-thecreativenerdd he absolutely was!!! 🖤🖤
It’s crazy that one of the best father-son movies of all time came out just after The Lion King from the same studio.
Being someone who hung out all the time with my mom through high school and early twenties, (who ended up losing my mother 6 months ago at 26) I highly recommend people who are still in school or early twenties to set some time aside to hangout with your parents, because you may lose them much earlier than you realize, and if you think you will feel regret from not hanging out with them should they all of a sudden pass? Then might be best to find something to do with them.
Even though I hung out with my mother all the time, I still feel regrets that there was some days that I felt too tired and cancelled plans sometimes with my mother. If only I could go back to those times and still go through with them, and talked more with her. (I was only raised by my mother, so she was both parents for me).
Of course if your parents aren't nice people and if you feel like you won't regret choosing to never hang with them, then that's fine.
I am fatherless my entire life and loved rewatching A goofy movie till VHS malfunction as a kid. I rewatched it recently in a Disney marathon and it still holds up. Brilliant movie by talented people who did not slack it off. And thanks to your video, I am piecing together why it is special. Many of your videos are very valuable guide to badly educated me who also had bad upbringing, they make me better person and better artist. So, thank you a lot for that.
I WAS HOPING YOU’D DO THIS MOVIE!!!! I LOVE IT SO MUCH AND KNOWING WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT IT IS AWESOME.
I related to this movie alot because my dad and me used to camp every summer and I loved it as a kid and as a teen I saw it as a hindrance, even though in hindsight it was his way of letting me branch out and gain independence via our time in the wilderness.
Oh I've been waiting for this one, thank you!
I grew up super close to my mom and despite that we had our hard moments. She was a single mom for a long time and she always emphasized that it was me, her, and my brother against the world. I got kicked out of my house for exactly 10 days, took all the things I bought for myself which luckily included my laptop and drawing tablet. I got into a homeless shelter, used savings and money from art commissions, got myself a motel and was doing *surprisingly* fine. My mom regretted it within the hour in and then spent that week panicking and looking for me. I called my brother from the new phone I bought myself and he convinced me to tell them where I was. When I saw my mom I crumpled immediately and we begged for each other's forgiveness. We're closer for it in my opinion, the love only grew stronger.
I used to watch this movie with my family, and this movie is something I incredibly relate to. I think it’s really cool you guys did a video on this movie!
Thanks! Hope you enjoy the episode. :)
One thing I noticed is that even as Max and Goofy are fighting in the canyon, they still are actively helping each other
R.I.P my brother we saw this as kids. This movie always gets me in the feels. I love how Roxanne is shy and nervous around Max it's real