Best Clean Tone? Fender Super Reverb Vs Cranked Marshall Plexi - That Pedal Show

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  • Опубліковано 10 лип 2024
  • Can this Marshall rock monster be tamed to a sweet clean tone? You bet it can!
    Life too short for long UA-cam videos? See the ‘Interesting bits and go-to sections’ information below.
    Welcome to the show! I’ve been thinking about this for ages. It seems like a crazy question at first glance, right?
    But after welcoming Aynsley Lister to the show recently - • Bigger Tone For Aynsle... - and watching Dan’s awesome chat with Simon Jarratt - • Dan's Lost Guitar Mast... - I thought now was a good time to explore this. Or at least to start re-exploring it.
    Disclaimer! This video IS NOT about the Ultimate Clean Guitar Tone Ever (even if you could define it). In fact some of the sounds in this video are borderline ugly. Indeed, if you want a really ‘clean’ clean guitar sound - no harmonic overdrive or distortion at all - neither of these amps is going to do that. At all.
    Moreover, what I’m doing here is taking one bastion of archetypal accepted ‘clean’ tone in the form of a mid-sixties-style blackface Fender amp, and asking if its more aggressive, shouty British brother can tame that rock roar back to a sweet clean tone. Well I’ll let you into a secret. We already know it can, evidenced by many top players down the years.
    What’s more interesting to me is to ask: what are the dynamic and feel characteristics of achieving a ‘clean’ tone in this way; what else does that offer us as guitar players, aside from the tone itself?
    If you can possibly refrain, try not to comment “Doh, I’ve been telling you this for years” or anything similarly smug. Remember that not everyone is at the same point in their guitar journey. Sure there’s nothing universally new here, but that doesn’t mean it won’t be new or interesting to some people who’ve yet to experience it.
    Q: Why are there just as many overdrive sounds in this video as ‘clean’ sounds?
    A: Because we’re talking about the context of dialling back from an overdrive sound and/or having more dynamics expression available from the guitar.
    Q: Capacitance, cables and all that?
    A: The tech-savvy among you will know that the loss of brightness from guitar to amp has a lot to do with capacitance, impedance and mitigating that with the buffer. Not all buffers are equal and not all cables are equal. So for the record, my cables are a 15-foot Klotz LaGrange from guitar to the QMX and a 20-foot Evidence Forte cable from QMX to amp. Both are relatively low-capacitance cables.
    The QMX switcher is not buffered in any way and is audibly transparent.
    The Strat has original 1961 pickups and original wiring - 250k pots and 0.1 cap.
    The Les Paul has Gibson Custom Buckers with 500k pots, 0.022 caps and ’50s wiring.
    Q: Why can I hear loads of hiss and hum from the Marshall when you speak but much less when you play? And none from the Fender?
    A: Because the voice microphone is gained way louder than the amp/cab and room mics. My voice would register between 50 and 60dB, ish, on our dB meter. The amps are hitting 100-102dB. We don’t use any noise reduction on the guitar mics ever. The Fender just isn’t as noisy as the Marshall.
    Okay, enough excuses. Please let us know which you prefer!
    Gear In This episode
    • 1961 Fender Stratocaster
    • Gibson Custom True Historic 1957 Gibson Les Paul Standard, Murphy Aged
    USA: (not theMurphy aged one) imp.i114863.net/eO7bQ
    • Free The Tone Final Booster (with HTS Circuit)
    UK & Europe: bit.ly/2LPvCu4
    • TheGigRig QMX2
    www.thegigrig.com/quartermaster
    • Fender ’65 Super Reverb with Jensen P10R speakers (modern reissue)
    • Marshall 1987x and 1960AX cab with Celestion G12M Greenback speakers (modern reissue)
    UK & Europe: bit.ly/31eVWmc
    USA That Pedal Shop: bit.ly/3v3Xazc
    • Tone King Ironman II attenuator
    UK & Europe: bit.ly/3tmt5sq
    USA: bit.ly/3CYt6WW
    Interesting bits and go-to sections
    - Intro playing: 00:00
    - What are we doing today?: 00:30
    - Extensive pedalboard and Super settings: 01:34
    - Fender on 4, Marshall on 8. Strat: 03:00
    - And with Les Paul, Marshall: 03:52
    - Strat volume control and Marshall: 04:27
    - Brightness loss turning guitar down?: 05:15
    - …so let’s add a booster/buffer: 06:35
    - Buffer on and off in the Fender: 07:25
    - Booster buffer in the Marshall: 08:25
    - Reverb from the CXM1978: 10:20
    - Booster, buffer, Marshall & Les Paul: 13:08
    - …and into the Fender amp: 15:28
    - Crank the Super Reverb, Les Paul: 17:25
    - …and with Strat: 18:50
    - Back to the Marshall, Strat, booster/buffer: 21:15
    - Answering the question?: 23:22
    - Pedal gain vs amp gain?: 24:30
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  • @BaronsDuju
    @BaronsDuju 3 роки тому +377

    I just had to remind myself that a lot of thought, work and time goes into these videos. They come across as so natural.. and Mick's interest is so genuine.. it's honestly easy to think these videos just happen naturally as part of Mick's normal day.

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  3 роки тому +54

      Thank you Clint, that’s very kind!

    • @malsanders609
      @malsanders609 3 роки тому +5

      Agreed, awesome work Mick and team 👏

    • @Slaphitter
      @Slaphitter 3 роки тому +7

      I mean, correct compliment, but let’s be honest. I think this *is* Mick’s normal day, no? :D

    • @marksvideochannel3592
      @marksvideochannel3592 3 роки тому +2

      @@Slaphitter Ha!

    • @markphillips8573
      @markphillips8573 3 роки тому

      Comparing clean tones of classic amps, why a pedal? Why a booster or buffer? Or anything else other than the amps for the comparison?
      Just the amps alone with different guitars surely is the true comparison?

  • @darnokregrer3575
    @darnokregrer3575 3 роки тому +110

    The words "Cranked Marshall Plexi" in combination with TPS is enough for me to like the video before starting to watch.
    Oh you worldly pleasures of saturated goodness (even cleaned up)!

  • @scaramouche49
    @scaramouche49 3 роки тому +13

    You can tell by the smile on your face that nothing will ever beat that Plexi sound, cleaned and not cleaned by the guitar volume

  • @shawndunsmoor1557
    @shawndunsmoor1557 3 роки тому +77

    Trouble with the Marshall is the sheer amount of noise when used this way. The Fender is whisper quiet in comparison. I love both and have both kinds of amps but at the end of the day, for me, the Fender wins cleans easily. The Marshall wins dirt.

    • @timcat8382
      @timcat8382 3 роки тому +3

      Although, I must say, I was impressed with the Fender with the volume up.

    • @qua7771
      @qua7771 3 роки тому +3

      I'll agree, My amp is based on the Marshall circuit and I find myself needing a noise gate in the FX loop.
      I cannot justify purchasing a Fender, but I wouldn't mind having one.

    • @truescotsman4103
      @truescotsman4103 3 роки тому +11

      with marshall you get more dynamics and more sensitivity.

    • @0megalul309
      @0megalul309 2 роки тому +2

      Humbucker gaming

    • @nicolasdelcastillo6497
      @nicolasdelcastillo6497 2 роки тому +1

      and a Vox wins both

  • @calindorf7886
    @calindorf7886 3 роки тому +3

    Mick, you've taken such a simple concept and demonstrated it beautifully. Really got a lot out of this one. Thanks, TPS crew!

  • @Vondy420
    @Vondy420 3 роки тому +5

    Cheers from Los Angeles (@ 4am)! Sounding lovely, Mick! This is some great insight. Keep up the amazing work, you icon! Justin here.

  • @gordonrankin4667
    @gordonrankin4667 3 роки тому +1

    Mick great show! The whole idea of impedance & the amp and how a buffer does its job was great to hear/see. Appreciate the time you put into this!

  • @kurtisr2339
    @kurtisr2339 3 роки тому +5

    Thanks for this, Mick! A good refresher can be every bit as good (sometimes better?) than new knowledge. Stay sane, stay safe! And please know, TPS is helping folks like me accomplish both of those things.

  • @HiVizSmiley
    @HiVizSmiley 3 роки тому +6

    Over the last few videos the super reverb has went from a clean benchmark kind of thing to being one of my favorite amps in the fleet. It just sings when it’s cranked, when it’s just breaking up, or with the right pedals and clean. So good. Excellent video Mick!

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  3 роки тому

      Thank you. It’s a reminder for all of us that most decent tube amps are //totally// different animals when they’re loud and driving. Wooop!

  • @SwirlyWhirlyXYZ
    @SwirlyWhirlyXYZ 3 роки тому +22

    MIDI controlled guitar volume knobs by Chase Bliss Audio

  • @dalleyrick
    @dalleyrick 3 роки тому +1

    This episode is a great example of the kind of information that keeps me coming back to your show. I will never amass the amps, pedals and guitars to which you guys have access. So sharing your knowledge or providing context from your years of experience when you present an A/B experiment like this provides a great amount of information (for free) to anyone in the guitar community who care to take a look. I've long been a subscriber to your channel and will check out your merch when I can. For now please accept my heartfelt thanks and keep 'em coming!

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  3 роки тому

      Thanks Richard, very kind of you to say!

  • @ridesingletrack
    @ridesingletrack 3 роки тому +1

    Really glad you dove deeper into this after the Aynsley episode (which was killer all around, btw). I had the exact same questions and am now even more interested in trying this with my rig. Thanks for the inspiration as always. Be well TPS fam!

  • @LIGHTintheHALLS
    @LIGHTintheHALLS 3 роки тому +72

    It’s not often mentioned but a Marshall does have a cool clean sound. Andy Summers is a perfect example.

    • @louierubio
      @louierubio 3 роки тому +3

      Yea I play low gain and love a clean Marshall sound. Jubilee has a great clean vibe too.

    • @JimiSomeMoore
      @JimiSomeMoore 3 роки тому +12

      Jimi's not a bad example either !

    • @DaveBroTube
      @DaveBroTube 3 роки тому +7

      @@JimiSomeMoore I'm not even a huge Jimi fan, but I always thought his clean sound was awesome.

    • @hkguitar1984
      @hkguitar1984 2 роки тому +1

      @@JimiSomeMoore I do agree, however Jimi was know to use a Fender Twin Reverb in the Studio.

    • @JesseJuup
      @JesseJuup 2 роки тому +4

      What? Andy Summers and his Roland JC-120 is a good example of Andy Summers clean tone! 😅

  • @GazP23
    @GazP23 3 роки тому +3

    Brilliant video! As Mick said, we all know about ‘cranked amp with guitar volume rolled down’ version of clean, but I was blown away with just how sparkly it was from the Plexi.
    However, when that Les Paul got plugged into the cranked Plexi, oh the joy!! What a sound.

  • @NathanNagel
    @NathanNagel 3 роки тому +1

    Great video Mick! Thanks for all you do!

  • @mmonks
    @mmonks 3 роки тому +2

    Great video Mick! Thanks to you and Dan for keeping on keeping on during this latest lockdown. I love both clean sounds, different but both ace and both classics in their own right. I love playing into a cleanish amp with pedals but I also spent many years flicking the pickup switch on a Gibson from neck pickup on 5 to bridge pickup on 10 to switch between my "clean" and "lead" tones and loved that too! I just love it all :-)

  • @TeiscoCurlee
    @TeiscoCurlee 3 роки тому +28

    That thumbnail was absolutely fantastic haha

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  3 роки тому +7

      Haha! Thank you!

    • @TeiscoCurlee
      @TeiscoCurlee 3 роки тому +2

      @@ThatPedalShow Great sounds coming out of that Marshall btw, I'd add a treble booster or fuzz face and call it a day!

  • @CarsonBlock
    @CarsonBlock 3 роки тому +4

    I've been playing since I was a teenager and Dan (and Mick) continue to help me learn more nuance about tone, signal path and more. Thank you, brothers!

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  3 роки тому +2

      Thank you Carson - appreciate you being with us!

  • @rs700910
    @rs700910 3 роки тому +1

    Awesome, I love watching these Blogs you do Mick & Dan. Nothing better than hearing a cracked Amp clean.. and to have the confidence to play that loud too..

  • @tricknologist2066
    @tricknologist2066 3 роки тому +2

    OMG! Thank you! Thank you! So glad you're back to creating legit content!

  • @MrJaybunny
    @MrJaybunny 2 роки тому +4

    Watched this a year ago and now watched it all the way through again. Very interesting. I do love the sound of the 1987x . Nice one Mick.

  • @shinjial
    @shinjial 3 роки тому +6

    I reeeally like the Marshall cleans. Always have, and this is one more illustration for me of why I like it. Rolling off the volume on the gainy amp makes for a nice squish and frequency response (from what the video offers anyway - I'm sure the experience in the room is different). The buffer in the signal chain also makes for a nicer sound on either amp for me, it's a small thing to consider and yet makes up for that thing that could be missing from a 90% ready tone.
    Edit: this video format is appreciated. Smaller, just Mick (respecting the guidelines from your country), and a cool display of a subject. Well produced as always. I'd be happy with these for the forseeable future. Just wanted to affirm the appreciation for what you guys do.

  • @Adventuresingearland
    @Adventuresingearland 3 роки тому +1

    Lovely stuff, Mick. Thanks very much. Sounds awesome.

  • @martrich1098
    @martrich1098 3 роки тому +2

    Wonderful, you made that seem so simple, but we know how much work went into it. For me that Start into the plexi was producing some of my favourite tones I've heard on the show. Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful

  • @keithgrahammusic
    @keithgrahammusic 3 роки тому +5

    Nice playing. I think you’re definitely underrated in UA-cam land as a guitarist. It’s always a pleasure listening to you.

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  3 роки тому

      Thanks Creek, very kind of you to say!

  • @danielhelderman5228
    @danielhelderman5228 3 роки тому +3

    Ive learned a lot watching TPS, this is the best advice yet and it scales to smaller amps. I have a Robert Keeley Supro and using this technique produces amazing tone. Thank you much!

  • @SteveR5954
    @SteveR5954 3 роки тому +1

    Cheers for this Mick - Sounding bloody good! Hope to hear some of these Marshall Plexi tones on your EP sometime this year :-)

  • @petercornell2002
    @petercornell2002 3 роки тому

    As usual, well though out and researched. Excellent stuff, thanks.

  • @vincet68
    @vincet68 3 роки тому +20

    I love the idea of not picking a side, Mick, and instead knowing that it’s all about having options. I love my Budda Verbmaster 18W cranked on its High input (very Plexi/AC30-ish) when I’m alone in the house and can shake the walls - not so much when the fam is upstairs! Over the years, I’ve found the overdrives that can get me close to that at fam-friendly levels and they’re in the toolbox.
    One other aside - I have an EP Booster always-on at unity for the EQ shaping (I actually don’t enjoy it too much as a boost) - I’d never considered that part of that shaping will be because of some amount of buffering as well. I’m going to try my TC Spark Mini in that position at unity, just to see if it has similar effect.
    Keep breathing, keep going, we’ll all be back in rooms together before we know it.

    • @mikeroadblock
      @mikeroadblock 3 роки тому +1

      The big tc spark is great. It can do the under “drive thing”amazingly. Cheers!

    • @vincet68
      @vincet68 3 роки тому +1

      @@mikeroadblock I only have the mini - haven't used it a lot in the past few years, and when I was, I was using it as a "more louder" boost, so I'll have to check to see if it can cut as well as boost.

  • @jloiben12
    @jloiben12 3 роки тому +15

    The buffer made such a big difference I was able to hear it through iphone speakers

  • @shawnkhan2901
    @shawnkhan2901 3 роки тому +1

    Very insightful. Great video Mick.

  • @ianpercival890
    @ianpercival890 3 роки тому +1

    Totally enjoyed that mick , thankyou so much for the hard work you guys do , both amps sound great , but I love the super

  • @sander_koning
    @sander_koning 3 роки тому +5

    The cranked Super does it for me, what a great sound. As always: soulful playing, insightful experiments and inspirational words. Thanks, Mick!

  • @taterfight
    @taterfight 3 роки тому +8

    That Marshall on any setting with any guitar. WOW!

  • @CoreyZ232
    @CoreyZ232 3 роки тому +1

    Mick, every time I watch a video, I'm blown away by how tasteful your tone and playing is! Thank you guys for all of the great content!

  • @PeterJDeVault
    @PeterJDeVault 3 роки тому +1

    That was excellent. I appreciate that you did it fairly systematically. Thank you.

  • @helmutarseparter
    @helmutarseparter 3 роки тому +4

    Bloody hell that Marshall sounds amazing! I'm gutted I sold mine now, I never was able to get on with the the hiss and extreme volume... Great tones and playing Mick.

  • @Yupppi
    @Yupppi 3 роки тому +5

    Getting very fancy with watching TPS these days. The thursday episode still caught me off guard, and now I'm enjoying it with Laphroaig and dark chocolate. That clean up from Marshall is something I never expected. Goes to show why you should actually play the classics like they were played. I can't say how enjoyable it is just to listen to guitar playing loud on two great loud amps. It didn't even have to be an episode with an educational theme.

  • @chimera2518
    @chimera2518 3 роки тому +1

    Mick, that harmony bend at 17:55 must be a signature lick of yours; I recognize it from the Official GigRig vid you did with Dan. You're a beast dude, humble af & an excellent guitarist. Appreciate you sharing your ups & downs, thanks for being real & keep up the great work with the show. Very informative & you guys both inspire

  • @1cleandude
    @1cleandude 2 роки тому

    Great video Thanks again for your time and expertise!🙏🏻

  • @Slaphitter
    @Slaphitter 3 роки тому +32

    The strat on 6 into the plexi is a glorious noise. Not “better” than the blackface but its own thing, and lovely.

  • @samhatman6536
    @samhatman6536 3 роки тому +5

    And after enjoying Mick feeding us with knowledge of our craft, clarifying the path to awesome tone, I get to play it all again like an EP.
    Thank you! Yes sir, I'd buy your album! ?

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  3 роки тому +4

      Ah man. Bless you. EP upcoming which hopefully will help me pay for my Strat!

  • @macsarcule
    @macsarcule Рік тому

    Reading the description is the key to not being confused or frustrated by this video. 🙂
    This was brilliant! I tried the same thing with my setup and was thrilled with the dynamic range I got. A little noise trade off, but I can see balancing that out tweaking things over time.

  • @joetoe9207
    @joetoe9207 3 роки тому +1

    Outstanding. You showcase these issues so well. TX!

  • @junimeme5626
    @junimeme5626 3 роки тому +5

    There's not enough material on youtube on the BF Super Reverb. I'm not sure why; it's one of the few holy grails of amplifiers in terms of tone, if not the best ever. It's one of my dreams to own one someday.
    Loved the vid!

    • @josephmorris8620
      @josephmorris8620 2 роки тому

      You're not wrong; I have a 1966 Super and it has remained the best sounding amp I've ever heard.

  • @ryangunwitch-black
    @ryangunwitch-black 2 роки тому +3

    Wow! The Marshall really highlights the difference between a Strat and a Les Paul.

  • @StratsRUs
    @StratsRUs 3 роки тому +1

    Beautiful sounds and playing.Well done !

  • @gordrock
    @gordrock 3 роки тому +1

    That was the perfect way to do that video and so very valuable. Thanks ole chap.

  • @BelchevKalin
    @BelchevKalin 3 роки тому +6

    That 1987X warms my heart! Well actually both amps are superb sounding, especially with Mick plugged in...

  • @AustinHillJD
    @AustinHillJD 3 роки тому +3

    I've got one of the "studio vintage" 20w/5w heads---incredible amp. One of my first, and enduring, impressions of it was that it is completely controllable from your guitar, just as you've demonstrated here. Amazing cleans, through "raging rock beast." Great job with this video.

  • @PageCrowes
    @PageCrowes 3 роки тому +1

    Awesome Mick, best show on the tube. Thank you

  • @rottalmusik6563
    @rottalmusik6563 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for covering this Topic!

  • @hkguitar1984
    @hkguitar1984 3 роки тому +3

    I've been playing guitar since 1974 and I can state with confidence that my modified 1987x is one of the most musical amplifiers I've ever owned. The high sound pressure levels required to run it where it's "just right" is another story altogether!
    That said, no single amplifier can provide all the tones possible or required for a given job or song.

  • @tylermarshall6180
    @tylermarshall6180 3 роки тому +6

    That smile @13:46 says it all. It's hard to get a better drive sound than a cranked Marshall Plexi and a Les Paul.
    Also, I love this kind of shorter-form video delving into a hyper-specific topic. Would love to see more like this (in addition to the long ones, not replacing them).

  • @giorgiodeninno
    @giorgiodeninno 3 роки тому +1

    Super interesting, as always 🔥

  • @erickaymusic
    @erickaymusic 3 роки тому +1

    Awesome video Mick! Lots of great tones and ideas in there! The boost/buffer seems really useful in mixing and matching different guitars with your rig. I'd like to hear em both together! ;-)

  • @mikegrisafi541
    @mikegrisafi541 3 роки тому +3

    The secret for great tones that so many are after.....is THIS. If you can get an amazing OD tone right from the amp that isn't so saturated to ruin dynamics in your playing, the clean sound that is hiding within just by dialing your signal back at the guitar will be livelier and more expressive than any other method....IMHO of course. Having the right boost in the chain is also a huge help...I designed one just for this purpose with a subtle voice control that takes advantage of what a good driven amp does to the sound.

  • @tonybrooks476
    @tonybrooks476 3 роки тому +37

    Thursday is the new Friday folks. Happy TPSin’

    • @timchalmers1700
      @timchalmers1700 3 роки тому +3

      Then on Friday, watch one of the back issues. I always learn something.

  • @slyparranini7639
    @slyparranini7639 3 роки тому +1

    Great vid as usual

  • @esmoroglu
    @esmoroglu 3 роки тому +1

    Great info and insight!👏🏻👏🏻👋🏼

  • @dallinmangum2172
    @dallinmangum2172 3 роки тому +5

    Worth mentioning I got suggested to watch this and I'm such a rocker I was somehow offended that some people enjoy clean non chug tones on a guitar. I realized I was insane and thought I would share that with the world.

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  3 роки тому

      Thanks Dallin. It’s the beat share we’ve had all week!

  • @dalerschmitt
    @dalerschmitt 3 роки тому +7

    Clean Fender is always my go to. And Mick's playing makes it sound so awesome! Much like Mick, I hate all the hum and buzz on a cranked Marshall with the guitar volume down, so I prefer the Fender for cleans.

  • @tmitz73
    @tmitz73 3 роки тому +1

    Great Episode Mick, Keep on Rockin' Bruddah!!

  • @gayvalds
    @gayvalds 3 роки тому +1

    Wish this video had come out a month ago! I just got out of the studio for tracking/mixing, and the info in this video would've been extremely helpful. I ended up torn between using a vintage Fender Twin and original Marshall Super Bass. I ended up choosing the Super Bass because I found the low and high end perfect for my Dry amp in my Wet/Dry/Wet recording setup. I cranked it on input 1 (no jumping) with an Orange Tiny Terror with a vintage Fender Spring Reverb unit in front and a Handwired Princeton Reverb copy combo as the wet amps. Sounded MONUMENTAL!!! I used a volume pedal on my board instead of the knob on my guitar (for ease of use) and both the clean sounds and gainy sounds had such depth, even when the Marshall was isolated in the mix without wet amps. Thank you TPS for the absolute wealth of knowledge you have provided me as well as the mounds of inspiration!

  • @louieparente
    @louieparente 3 роки тому +15

    Man, the sound in that Marshall. Geez. Goosebumps.

  • @jonlohrenz5446
    @jonlohrenz5446 3 роки тому +8

    “Ohhhhh, the Fender and the Marshall should be frieeeends”
    *to the tune of the song from Rogers and Hammerstein’s ‘Oklahoma’.

  • @agentmh007
    @agentmh007 3 роки тому +1

    Very interesting and insightful. Thanks!

  • @mariokx250
    @mariokx250 3 роки тому +1

    It’s funny, because I’ve heard you say over and over again, Mick, that you like amps with loads of headroom where you can get that pristine sound from your pedals without the artifacts of an amp starting to cave in, but I swear that every time I hear you play through a cranked (insert amp here), something even more special happens with your playing. It’s like that little kid comes out, playing the rig of his heroes and just letting loose! Great video! I’ve just recently fallen in love with the cleans of my Strat into my plexi somewhat cranked with the guitar volume rolled back. It’s a beautiful thing!

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  3 роки тому +2

      Hello Mario. I definitely have said the first half of that many times. I LOVE amps with loads of headroom, but the pristine sound from pedals thing not so much. I think I’ve always liked amps that are just overdriving before you hit them with the pedals. Then the combination of the pedals and the amp becomes this glorious harmonic thing. That said, as you’ve noticed, maybe the older the get, the more I’m enjoying that ‘just overdriving’ point. Nice! What’s interesting about big amps is that they can be overdriving but still have tons of dynamic and headroom. I think that’s what I like most. It’s all a journey, so expect to see more of this I think! Thanks for watching!

  • @davidritter7867
    @davidritter7867 3 роки тому +5

    The smile at 13:47 is why we all play guitar and watch TPS!

  • @IceNein763
    @IceNein763 3 роки тому +3

    Eric Johnson is a great example of your conclusion. He uses amps cranked, he uses pedals for gain, and he rides the volume knob on his guitar constantly. If you watch him play, his pinky is almost always on it, it's part of what makes him such an expressive player I think.

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  3 роки тому +1

      He also uses very distinct amps for clean and dirty. I’ve stood next to them at full chat. Bonkers!

  • @fanofthewylde2933
    @fanofthewylde2933 3 роки тому +1

    Keep up the good work Mick, especially with the guitar playing because its awesome. We all have our own list of guitarists that we like, and to me you're one of them so keep it up man!

  • @seltzer5334
    @seltzer5334 3 роки тому +1

    Very clearly explained Mick. Thank you. And of course, great playing as usual.

  • @MrJaybunny
    @MrJaybunny 3 роки тому +7

    Show now re named "That amp show" lol. Great sounds Mick.

  • @dhod900
    @dhod900 3 роки тому +4

    Love the playing Mick!

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  3 роки тому +2

      Thanks Dan! It’s always tough when you’re trying to concentrate on demoing something. Hey ho!

    • @dhod900
      @dhod900 3 роки тому

      @@ThatPedalShow
      I tried one of those QI Jack’s on your recommendation
      Not sure it sounds better (my brain thinks it heard something subtle but that’s probably just bias) but it’s definitely a more snug fit and I never get any crackle or superfluous noise when I’m moving around.
      So I’m a convert, have a spare coming too!

  • @toddashley407
    @toddashley407 6 місяців тому +1

    Great video! Really helps alot - right in my wheelhouse frankly. Solidified my path with my plans for my pedalboard which is very budget minded where I working with a Nashville Telecaster and LP style guitar into a a switching system with two different sansamps (one a Fender Blackface type and the other a Plexi Marshall type) with a booster and overdrive before the sansamp switcher. The booster and Marshall sansamp are on the way.... I have high expectations that I will wind up with something close to both options (that can potentially work well at even bedroom volume levels). Thanks again for the video!

  • @doughealy1827
    @doughealy1827 3 роки тому +1

    Really nice demo , I have a 72 SR and a modern Marshall (Origin 20) ... Love them both and the choice's they bring .. your demo showed the versatility of both

  • @MarkPritchardGuitar
    @MarkPritchardGuitar 3 роки тому +22

    After watching a lot of Joe Bonamassa, I like to use my volume control for having that extra boost available on the guitar. Some great clean tones there Mick but I just want to hear that Les Paul into a cranked Marshall and even the Super again. Interesting video Mick which has produced even more questions haha

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  3 роки тому +5

      Yep! Lotta love for the Lester today. Magic guitar.

    • @qua7771
      @qua7771 3 роки тому

      I wish that technique worked out better for me. Dialing back makes my guitar sound thin. Maybe I should use a boost/ preamp pedal. I almost always play straight through the amp.

    • @aalperuzun
      @aalperuzun 3 роки тому

      @@qua7771 Just a little compression, what i do.

    • @qua7771
      @qua7771 3 роки тому +1

      @@aalperuzun I will give it a try. Thanks.
      I don't usually use my pedal board, but maybe I should.

  • @jamesdavid7782
    @jamesdavid7782 3 роки тому +22

    Never clicked on anything faster in my life.

  • @itzikc33
    @itzikc33 3 роки тому +1

    Hi Mick. Cheers for the Netflix rcomendision last week! Loved it!

  • @AlGorham23
    @AlGorham23 3 роки тому +1

    Mick, coupled with Simon's masterclass with Dan last week, these have been my two most valuable TPS videos from a "feel" perspective. Mr Jarrett is a genius in terms of touch sensitivity, and having learned a massive whack of new techniques watching him talk about harmonics, your guide through the volume effect on those Strats has helped unlock my sonic feel for my own "blue". I loved the way the neck felt, but I couldn't figure out where that sweet spot was on the volume in terms of chime/spank, before I wanted a bit of grunt, without losing the top end and ending up in mudsville. Massive, massive high five for this one - you're making me a better player every week. Cheers! Al

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks Alan. Have to say that Simon J and Ayns were a huge inspiration to dive into this. So glad it’s useful to you!

  • @LyleCattBluesBand
    @LyleCattBluesBand 3 роки тому +14

    I just received my Super Reverb and soaking in all words of wisdom on sounds, tone, settings and mojo. This was mojo heavy.

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  3 роки тому +1

      Ooooh, congrats. Much fun ahead!

    • @LyleCattBluesBand
      @LyleCattBluesBand 3 роки тому

      I ordered my T-shirts yesterday...spreading the gospel.

    • @arjunmenon2815
      @arjunmenon2815 3 роки тому +1

      Tonal nirvana awaits. Invest in a trolley or make friends with a physiotherapist

    • @LyleCattBluesBand
      @LyleCattBluesBand 3 роки тому

      I’ve got a foldable trolley. Not too old for rock and roll :)

    • @arjunmenon2815
      @arjunmenon2815 3 роки тому

      @@LyleCattBluesBand ha ha! Power to you 😁

  • @jamesunderhill1603
    @jamesunderhill1603 3 роки тому +5

    Lessons learned today....
    1, the importance of learning how to use your guitar controls, sometimes less IS more,
    2, the importance of a good buffer to your tone,
    3, using a boost to "enhance" your sound not necessarily increase your volume,
    4, the importance of just sitting back and letting Mick do his thing.
    Have a great evening everybody, 👍

  • @karliscirulis6558
    @karliscirulis6558 3 роки тому +2

    An exciting episode, thanks Mick! A part II with Dan's AC30 next to the SR and Marshall would be even more exciting and cover the whole FMV trinity! One of the unsung heroes of this TPS video, as well as many other great episodes, is the fantastic job you guys do with the micing. That would be a great episode (or even a mini series), if you'd share some of your expertise on mics, placement, mic mixing, etc.

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  3 роки тому

      Thanks Karlis! I’ve explained it often enough, but when we make the video, nobody watched it. Hahahah! Thanks for the kind words!

  • @JBurtonTenor
    @JBurtonTenor 3 роки тому +1

    Love this, Mick...my goodness, what a great simple display and reminder of the variance of color we can achieve. in opera, we speak of "messa di voce", which is basically loud/soft variance for emotional effect. This reminds me of that, somewhat, in that they are equal but different, i.e. different expression types or mods of the same SPL. They sounded different to the trained ear, sure, but even more-so they conveyed a similar thing with vastly different "feel" or "attitude". At least to me. With that noise, the 87 brings a ragged heart on the sleeve attitude, and the Super brings a more eloquent Sage telling a tale by the fire feel. Maybe I've had too much coffee, and am feeling too poetic, but...I loved it. Thanks.

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  3 роки тому

      Thank you Jonathan. I hope the opera returns soon!

  • @caught.in.throes
    @caught.in.throes 3 роки тому +73

    The coffee is part of the signal chain as well.

    • @effinjeffin1811
      @effinjeffin1811 3 роки тому +4

      Before or after overdrive?

    • @RichardSeal
      @RichardSeal 3 роки тому +4

      Depends, dark or medium roast? I like a good dark roast after the overdrive... Gives it quite the boost!

    • @BelchevKalin
      @BelchevKalin 3 роки тому +3

      I prefer it before, gives me enough saturation...

    • @caught.in.throes
      @caught.in.throes 3 роки тому

      @@effinjeffin1811 yes

    • @caught.in.throes
      @caught.in.throes 3 роки тому +6

      @@BelchevKalin totally... can also help you hit that brown sound more easily.

  • @patrickmckay6621
    @patrickmckay6621 3 роки тому +3

    Scott Henderson is also doing a very interesting thing with his 2 stage RC Booster. He is explaining it in the XOTIC commercial !

  • @johnsawyer6145
    @johnsawyer6145 3 роки тому +1

    Great demonstration! I’ve been playing a “quiet” Super Reverb (set on 3) as of late and find that just a little bit of the Mick side of the D&M Drive gives just the right amount of top end clarity to what would normally be a little darker, rounder, sound. At the lower volume, I can still have the tone I need. 🤘😊👍

  • @rogeranderson6688
    @rogeranderson6688 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks Mick this is so helpful, it takes my understanding of how to work my Super Reverb to the next level.

  • @rgbplumbinghilton
    @rgbplumbinghilton 3 роки тому +4

    They both sound fantastic. The aggresiveness of the Marshall is a testament to why it is a great Rock amp.
    For me, and I own both types of amps, I prefer the Super Reverb and if I could only have one amp the Super would be the one.

    • @m0j0b0ne
      @m0j0b0ne Рік тому

      Same. If I could only own one, it'd be my Super, but I own two of them.

  • @patrickgribben2781
    @patrickgribben2781 Рік тому +5

    They both sound great but my fave cleanish tone is still a jtm45 and the feel when playing is magical.

  • @stratcat688
    @stratcat688 3 роки тому +2

    Had my strat since 2003. Finally realizing how necessary a buffer is. Your vlog speaks of my own journey this past month.

  • @nathanmontover1436
    @nathanmontover1436 3 роки тому +1

    awesome as usual!!

  • @samuelxavier2473
    @samuelxavier2473 3 роки тому +3

    Hoo - bleedin' - ray! Long, long overdue, showing players how to use the guitar volume effectively. Been doing this for years, and it gives you miles more versatility. For the record, I prefer the Marshall.

  • @kj677
    @kj677 3 роки тому +11

    Great video! Much like these guys I lean towards a clean (ish) amp to be a platform for my pedalboard. Funny enough, the finest tone I’ve ever had was running my board into a Marshall Bluesbreaker combo, however not cranked but running more like Mick is running his Fender Super Reverb in this video. I think Marshall has a glorious clean tone that is often overlooked. That being said, when able, there are not many more things more satisfying than standing in front of the Bluesbreaker, cranked to the hilt, with a Les Paul! If it sounds, but as importantly feels good, you’ve got it right!

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  3 роки тому +2

      All that, yes!

    • @kj677
      @kj677 3 роки тому

      @@ThatPedalShow much love and appreciation for all that you guys do from way up here in snowy Northern Ontario, Canada!

  • @toddkozik9459
    @toddkozik9459 3 роки тому +1

    Cheers Mick, very insightful, thanks!

  • @markcraig6611
    @markcraig6611 3 роки тому +2

    Really loved the Marshall cleaned up with the volume knob. Has a richness to it that I have never managed to get from a Fender amp (to my ears) and obviously very Hendrix/Frusciante when your up on the neck pup. Also have to say that this is where a good LP excels. Yeah, they sound incredible with everything at 10 and a well trodden A power chord but a good PAF repro, in the middle or neck position with the volume rolled off of an overdriven amp (Marshall or Tweed) gives so many subtle tones to explore. One of my favourite videos recently, thanks!

  • @neilclark4451
    @neilclark4451 3 роки тому +5

    Very interesting stuff Mick. I started gigging about twenty years ago using a Marshall TSL, but ended up buying a JCM800 and power brake. I was then forced to look for the clean sounds from the cranked Marshall. What an education. Great show about some less obvious sounds.

  • @alihart7849
    @alihart7849 3 роки тому +3

    I love my cleans with that bit of extra bite, lovely

  • @chris75009
    @chris75009 3 роки тому

    great videos! Top quality and this is the real sound You can get! no tweaks or digital mods with audio post production :) love you guys!

  • @dep1001
    @dep1001 3 роки тому +1

    Great vid, Mick! Cheers