Aluminum - KNO3 Flashpowder
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- Опубліковано 16 жов 2024
- Ok, Here is another interesting experiment. What happens when you mix aluminum powder with stump remover, potassium nitrate? it creates a very bright and energetic chemical reaction, when lit on fire! I go through the steps of weighting out the chemicals, and lighting them on fire! definitely a very interesting chemistry experiment!
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I don't wish to be a killjoy, but if, for example, you don't know the difference between aluminium and dark aluminium and are surprised when Al and KNO3 doesn't burst into flames, then you really shouldn't be posting videos like this. And grinding the mixed chemicals together is just about the biggest no-no in pyrotechnics. If you do try it with added sulphur you are likely to burn your hand or worse. ALWAYS grind chemicals individually and THEN mix them. And GENTLY!
You really need to do a lot more research.
Thanks for the great information.. I guess dark aluminum is finely ground?? I am still learning.. just like all of us.. I actually had a project I was planning to do with thermite.. And another with rocket motors.. these are more of a side project.. to test my chemicals.. Maybe it is because I didn't add sulfur.. that it was difficult to ignite? I will try to be careful.. thanks!!!
@@jaynesnetwork Dark Al is extremely finely ground and so very reactive. But it won't light with just an oxidizer such as KNO3 unless you also add S. But that's not good to store. Safer to use KClO4 (for which we need a licence here in the UK), which is the industry standard for fireworks, but that's still a powerful explosive and serious safety precautions are essential. Videos like yours can encourage amateurs to experiment in ignorance of the very real dangers.
No disrespect I know from just watching stuff from people into pyrotechnics . first safety point I learned was never....NEVER mix any flash using mortar n pestle you need to use the diper method of mixing as most flash powders are sensitive and can be dangerous
I hope you are not talking to me about this stuff. I know all the precautions...and what the different mixutres will behave, chemically, friction, shock...Made several different mixtures several times.
@@oldgeorge1939 Sorry that's not true. Believe me even w/o the sulfur it ingites and very well but not nearly as good as a perchlorate mixture.
I recently used a mortar and pestle with mixed ingredients, I learned my lesson, and got a second degree burn on my hand.
That does not sound good! What were you mixing??
@@jaynesnetwork Magnesium and sulfur
@@doopi5390 you got lucky: magnesium can cause 3rd degree flash burns from just the extreme UV light it emits.
@@doopi5390 powdered magnesium has a very quick and unforgiving temper.
NEVER APPLY PHYSICAL PRESSURE TO ***ANY*** MIXTURE CONTAINING POWDERED MAGNESIUM.
One might "succeed" with creating a slurry with a magnesium mixture using cold water - but there are no guarantees.
I could give precise details on how to attempt this - but since I'm not there to watch you, I don't want you to hurt yourself.
@@petesevern7638 is it a big problem if i press the mg/s in a petard? can it ignite with little pressure
Pour the powder on top of your fuse next time it will work much better also try using the 5/3/2 kno3/s/al. It lights much easier and burns faster
Thanks, Will try that next time!
5/3/2 is the way. Use German Dark 1 micron Eckart Al.
532 is nitrate/aluminium/sulphur by Google?
@@levi845yt4 you would have to be crazy to mix sofa into that flash powder the friction can explode in your face
@@bobhawkins875 sofa?
If you wanna make good flash with potassium nitrate, I suggest using german dark aluminum powder. 5 parts nitrate, 3 parts aluminium and always mix using the diaper method.
Thanks for the tips!
@@jaynesnetwork No problem. I also forgot to mention that sulfur helps the burn rate, it's not necessary but it wouldn't hurt to add a little.
70/30 try Indian it's more powerful and companies by federal law are only suppose to sell a person 1 pound a year
Elkhart 4513h super is the best aluminum money can buy for making flash powder,you need to go read about the difference between the two,indian black head is good aluminum but not on the same level as the ekheart 5413@@bobhawkins875
Ive found that KNO3 based aluminum flash needs sulfur to work well. Otherwise it just makes a weak flash like a fountain and balls of lava. Also grinding flash or any pyro composition in glass mortar and pestle us a good way to end up blinded or worse.
I think others have commented on this, but "real" flash powder is made with Potassium Chlorate or Perchlorate (KCLO3 or KCLO4) and aluminum powder. It's easy to order online, and it makes a world of difference. Potassium Nitrate is great for slower burning pyrotechnics like rocket engines, or your can get explosions by mixing the nitrate with some other accelerants as mentioned, but nothing compares to KCLO4 and aluminum!
Not easily ordered anymore.
@@budddove6480 I've never experienced any trouble. I just ordered both chemicals last week.
Another note on using KN03 and AL for a great flash powder if you can't get KCLO4. I use a formula of 5/3/2 grams of KNO3, AL and S. I've been using the same stump remover you showed, ground to a fine powder. This formula with a pile like you made would have instantly flashed and would just about blind you! The salutes I make with it are nearly as good as Perchlorate salutes, confined in cardboard tubes with hot-glued cardboard end caps.
Actually if you're going to use a potassium nitrate based flash powder you want magnesium powder. That stuff is energetic as hell. One of the things you absolutely never want to use potassium chlorate. Way too sensitive way to powerful extremely dangerous. Chlorate based explosives are just itching to go off right in your face. Potassium chlorate what's first used for making Armstrong powder I think back in the civil war days. That's why you want potassium perchlorate. You could also use ammonium perchlorate. But I have found the safest flash powder is actually potassium nitrate and magnesium no sulphur. Basically the only thing that's going to light that is a fuse what's an extremely energetic flash.
NEVER MIX FLASH POWDERS LIKE THAT!!! you need to use the diaper method
Thanks for the tip! I will look into it Thanks!
Josh 43 don’t
@@shook8305 exactly!
@@Josh-uo4te that's like asking "what's the best way to blow myself up". Don't grind flash mixes, you use the diaper method. If your asking that question you probably shouldn't be playing with such things.
@@chemistryscuriosities its frightening to see this on UA-cam its asking for trouble.
Mass ratio Al/KNO3 (w/w) = 0.44, allow me to demonstrate: 10Al + 6KNO3 -> 6KAlO2 + 2Al2O3 + 3N2, m.w. Al = 26.98, KNO3 = 101.10, 10(26.98) / 6(101.10) = 269.82/606.62 = 0.44, therefore 0.44x + x = 1, so 1.44x = 1, and x = 0.69, then back substitute for x: 0.44(0.69) + 0.69 = 1, or 0.31g Al + 0.69g KNO3 = 1.00g kaboom powder. Checking 0.31g • 26.98g/mol = 0.0115 mol Al, 0.69g • 101.10g/mol = 0.0069 mol KNO3, which is about a 10/6 mole ratio (with some rounding error). CHEMISTRY MATH IS NOT FOR THE FAINT OF HEART! Side note: 2Al + KCLO3 -> Al2O3 + KCl, which is simpler rxn that allows the angry pixies to rearrange faster, which is why potassium chlorate is a better oxidizer than the nitrate. Enjoy.
Thanks for the great information.. I will have to try some other experiments now!
Use magnesium strip as a fuse. It burns well but slow and is EXTREMELY hot
6:43 laughed so hard :D made my day
I did skip through several parts, but I didn't see where you added 10% of anything else? The ratio you posted in the video of 39% Aluminum & 51% KNO3 only adds up to 90%...
Sorry.. I did this video a while ago... Maybe try throwing a little sulfur into the mix.. that always make it a little more FUN! Thanks again for the great comments!
You'll never make a fast flash from KNO3 and aluminum without a few other additions, but you can replace aluminum with fine magnesium or magnalium for a pretty decently fast burning powder, but nowhere near actual flash powder. 10 feet of it spread in a line will burn in about half a second, and it will make a nice deep thud if confined. It really excells at making bright light, it's slower burning than aluminum flash powder (real flash powder, 70/30 KCLO4/Al) but burns longer and brighter, with the added benefit of lacking the danger of unconfined detonation that comes with perchlorate flash. Save your aluminum for perchlorates IMO...
And also, kind of a necessity, I'm not making a big deal out of it like others have because of the KNO3 but always grind your ingredients separately, and when mixing any composition with a name involving any word remotely close to "flash", use the diaper method, by placing the ingredients on a sheet of news paper and gently rolling the powder back and forth, side to side by alternately pulling either side of the paper up and down to mix it without friction or static. People have lost fingers, eyes and worse grinding pyro compositions with a mortar and pestle.
Can I use KNO3 and aluminium German dark for a firework or is it louder with KCLO4
@@Sylllllllllll KNO3 flash will make a slow(ish) poof and a flash of light, while KCLO4 flash will be more like a detonation, true flash powder (KCLO4/Al) is a completely different animal than nitrate-based flash, perchlorates are just way better. You can still make salutes with KNO3 but your firework casings must be made very strong to build up enough pressure to make a good bang, if it's all you have access to then go for it, but if at all possible I would suggest trying to find KCLO4, it's just that much better.
@@TheExplosiveGuy Mix amounts ? for both KCLO4 and/or KNO3 and AL ? thanks
@@deadpup666 70/30 KCLO4/Al or Mg, 65/35 KNO3/Al or Mg.
Dont add sulfur and grind it up together as the 3 become friction sensitive grind up separately then mix together slowly.
Sounds like a good plan.. I don't want to start a fire in my basement! Thanks for the great advice!!
Not with that stuff!
Actually this flash powder is not friction or shock sensitive even with sulphur, but if you replace the KNO3 with KCIO3 it will be more sensitive to shock and with added sulphur it will be even more sensitive...
@@MarineCy if you use kcl03 you're likely to blow off your hand with that amount and any friction. It's a guarantee. A grain of it on a vial cap being screwed tight is enough to instantly decompose it.
@@joshhill4903 That's what I said with KNO3 is not friction or shock sensitive, unlike KCLO3 which it is
Less aluminum,just get potassium perchlorate and aluminum dark powder that's flash powder
You try putting diffrent ratios of sulfur for an easier ignition
I knew that was going to happen with the wick😂🤣
The potassium you using you have to put it in the oven at 325 to cook the moisture out of the potassium nitrate 25 min until it's like a brown tint
Thanks for the tip! I assume that gets all the water vapor out?? I will try that next time! Thanks again!!
You are very welcome
Please never ever grind a flash powder together in a mortar and pestil. that's just asking for trouble. Just make sure both are fine powders and than mix them using the diaper method. Comps like that are friction sensitive, ye really don't want to be grinding them after they are mixed. Also ye need some sulpher in there and a +1 or 2% of boric acid so that it won't go basic which could cause it to go off on it's own.
I’d wear a static cable if I was working with something really sensitive. Also a mask and eye protection.
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Fun fact; if you add rust you'll get thermite but then you would have to mix the KNO3 with Magnesium dust to help start the process.
Ok I have some magnesium.. I'll have to try that next time!
I don't know what you did wrong, but that was not flash powder. Flash powder should ignite without having to use a blow torch. The ratio might have been wrong or the potassium nitrate and/or the aluminum was not a fine enough powder.
Yes, I will have to try it again! Thanks!
70/30 needs to be grinded very fine seperately
Im not goimg to be a jerk like others in the comments. Science is about experimentation, learning what works and what doesn't work. So I have no problems with your methods or materials. If someone already sugested this I apologize. Try potassium perchlorate instead of potassium nitrate and maybe add a pinch of charcoal powder to the aluminum when you grind it up. It makes a difference.
U should blend the stump remover to a finer powder but don’t blend together
31% and 59% only equals 90%
Hey was that dark aluminium or just aluminium
What is the difference??
@Bill Howitzer actually its just aluminium with charcoal mixed in it
@Bill Howitzer cool beans man
Not bat is magnesuim and aliuminum with a bit of kno3 then it fill ignite even from a spark
This guy is giving DANGEROUS INSTRUCTIONS.
NEVER use a mortar and pestal for mixing, "blending" chemicals 2gether.
Only Use it to powder one particular substance.
Use a coffe grinder to grind your knO3 and it's going to be easier to light. Or a ball mill. Preferably both ingredients should be ground separately in a ball mill
Thanks for the tips! I have tried coffee grinders to make Al powder, but the fine particle get inside the machinery... do you have the same issue? thanks!
you need to add sulfur to make it ignite easier!
Warning to everybody watching, please never ever mix flash powder with a grinding method or a ball mill , you run a serious risk of going boom. Also, potassium nitrate is not the go-to oxidizer for making flash, do more research..... Edit.... Honestly nothing personal dude but this video should be pulled down.
When adding your chemicals together the ratio should always = 100%. Unless you add a + chemical. Your ratio should have been something like 70 + 30 = 100%. 31% + 59% = 90% in the way I do math anyway.
Wet kn03
Dry it first and a wet rock didn't help nice magnesium show though
Some soda mix fuse , dry dry dry all ingredients first I use 100c kn03
Thanks for the tips! I will try that next time!!
@@jaynesnetwork fe * strontium nitrate red
First off you made a very small batch that lots of your aluminum was stuck in the paper but the main problem was probably your aluminum wasn't fine enough
Thanks, I will try some new experiments!
How much is fine?
Everyone watching this, DO NOT mix & grind your chemicals in a motor & pestle. Flash powder is friction-sensitive.
You need to do the proper research before mixing a sensitive flash powder like this. Thats asking for an accident I guarantee it. And another person that follows this information could get hurt or worse 🤔
This is great advice.. BE SAFE!!... But there are many things that are dangerous in life.. I find it funny that no consider it dangerous to be raising a whole generation of children, which only posses the abilities to watch TV, surf the internet, and play video games.. to me this is a far more dangerous situation... than anything else I can imagine!! When I was a child, I conducted MANY MANY, what would be consider "dangerous" science experiments.. by today's standards... yet I feel this experience has made me a better scientist.. Now with modern day mass-hysteria created by the psychotic and corrupt court systems presiding over us.. people are now afraid to even go outside.. and do simple things like riding a bicycle, are much to "dangerous" for our children to do now! After ALL.. they might fall down.. and get a little bo-bo! Maybe we will all be safer when we allow our government to put us all in straight jackets.. and lock us in little cages.. for our safety OF COURSE!.. Yes I agree with you.. these are dangerous chemicals.. and definitely precautions are very important to take to be safe.. yet.. science is not for the faint of heart.. there is a fine line to walk! Thanks for the great comments!!
@@jaynesnetwork I can understand that point of view and agree with the ailments that have taken the youngsters but I was only stating an actual fact. I am myself a pyrotechnicion by hobby and have been in the presence of professionals in the field for years. I have seen first hand with experiments just like yours that show the result so there's no need to test it in that way. All chems are milled separately and and mixed on kraft paper when the comp is flash. I do see there is fun in experiments but flash is one witch has had many.
Al 31%
KNO3 59%
(10%🤔) 🧐 Sulfur 10%😎🤪💣💥
wasted 9 minutes
Way to much aluminum, you made thermite. The kno3 needs to be VERY fine and add sulfur to the mix and use 3 micron dark aluminum powder in the correct ratios and kno3 flash is just as effective as standard flash once confined.
Thanks for the great tips!
Will it work with atomized aluminium?
7:20 No, it does not want to go at all xDDD
Make a firecracker with it.
After the lit fuse followed its own agenda...
ROTFLMAO
I think you better title for this video is - makeshift thermite, using saltpeter.
Better luck next time sport.
You forgot the sulfur
Your ratio is wrong it should be 70/30 where is your other 10%
how safe is that Flash?
Best to protect you eyes with a welding mask.. or something!??
Its NOT flash, anymore than a Volkswagen Beetle is a race car... just cause they both have 4 wheels
Where is the other 10% ? at 2:30
Yes, My math was a little off.. sorry!
Kno3 + alumunium powder + sugar powder 1 : 5 : 1
Thanks for the great tip!! Have to try it soon!!
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This is crazy. I hope kids don’t watch and try this.
Your are correct.. It is probably much better for our children to watch things like Beyonce twerking her Butt.. and transvestites like Ke$ha inspiring our younger generation to get into substance abuse.. There are so many other things our kids could be doing, instead of learning science and expanding their minds! Thanks for the great comments!!
@@jaynesnetwork I agree with you but playing around with those chemicals and not doing the research which by the way this guy is not doing his research can lead to disfigurement ,Burns or worse.
@@jaynesnetwork Don't be a jerk. I only worry because this guy is lucky he hasn't blown his fingers off or worse.
Add some carbon to it
Lol where's the other 10% in your ratio?
You have to use sulphur with that..
Thanks, I will try that next time!..
If you do use sulfur, don't grind the mix, grind each chemical separately. You can use a cheap coffee grinder, use 3 different ones, no fuel is being ground with the oxidizer.
If you were to try and grind this mix it's going to ignite, almost without fail, the sulfur is what does this, or makes it much more likely, if using KNO4 , it will always go off with friction. This stuff is a bunch of fun, but you have to be extremely careful, some of the stuff on UA-cam scares me to hell and back, some mixtures are better off not being made, others are great fun, I totally agree with you, a bit of sulfur would make the ignition temp much lower.
Sorry for the rant, I was cringing when he was grinding that stuff, knowing what potassium percolate + dark aluminum powder is capable of, I had some comfort that he was using potassium nitrate instead, but still, aluminum powder is highly reactive as it is, when ball milling it's easy to get a out of control spontaneous combustion from oxidation after the barrel is first opened, magnesium metal is highly reactive, I found that out the hard way, lol. Just be careful all.
Good advice from you to add sulfur, but please do not ever grind an oxidizer with a fuel supply, so much can go so wrong, and this is supposed to be fun and educational, so I hate to sound like a broken record, but safety first please.
Take care my fellow Freemen.
@@allentremper8243 could you grind 50/50 Al and magnesium into a fine powder together, or would they be more reactive together? then separately add oxidizer and sulfur?
@@Honestreview-om5hx I don't think I will be milling magnesium again, lol.
I'm not sure if you're idea would work, I think the magnesium would ignite the whole mess, I hear if you burb it a lot, with a bit of charcoal to also slow down the oxidation, but if it fails, it does so magnificently, no pun intended😀
6:40 Xd
Yes, that dang Fuse!! Where did it go??
Your aluminum isn’t fine enough or your KNO3 grind your KNO3 and use 325 mesh dark pyro your a little insane for making it lol
Maybe someone shouldnt Mention alu oxide from rusty aluminum thats been in the rain 18 months or so should give ypu a good bloom use rough grit paper and mix then with lumpy rusty iron sheets from an old shed or even rusty car bits wings and stuff not h the engine
😂aluminum dosent rust and its oxidized as fast as it made into a powder.
@@kudgelthree3085 what so just grate up some soda cans into lil cubes yhe
Add sulfur and do a 50/50/50 by weight
50/50/50? hugh
don't mind me just looking for video ideas
Sounds good.. I have many different interesting videos to peruse.. Thanks for the great comments...
@@jaynesnetwork 👍👍👍👍
Use potassium percolate
Mah?
Add some sugar
So wrong in so many ways
Not real flash powder without sulfer
Yes, Next time I will try!
thermite
The mix is not good
Maybe?? What do you recommend??
not the safe way :(
Yes, That is what I was told.. What do you recommend?
U can just turn off and on the scale with the paper or cup on the scale if tare is tripping
Noob I tell you...
Sodium metabisulfite
This one claims to be 100% Potassium Nitrate
www.spectracide.com/Products/Disease-And-Fungus-Control/Plant-Disease-Fungus-Control/Spectracide-Stump-Remover.aspx
This seemed good for rocket fuel
Damn
The problem you're having is with the fineness of the aluminum, you can order pyro grade aluminum off the internet for relatively cheaply.
One thing to remember is that flash powder is considered an explosive by some regulatory agencies, and therefore could be a felony.
I use a copper oxide based thermite with a mix of aluminum and magnesium powder and some potassium nitrate because that's not strictly speaking "flash powder" but it has a nearly identical effect in the right ratios.
Weather that would fly in court or not I couldn't say but it could at least give you ground to stand on.
Do some more research, and understand that the stuff you're working with can be very sensitive to friction and static electricity. Always assume whatever you're working with is more dangerous than it is, because it just might be.
If you have any questions DM me.
Very interesting! Thanks for this great information! I will try to be careful!
Why don't you just make Armstrong powder.
@@patman0250 because it's useless. Way too sensitive to do anything with.
@@PiranahKill Armstrong powder is just as sensitive as flash powder but a lot cheaper. Some would even say it's even more powerful.
@@patman0250 your talking Chlorate/phosphorus mix correct? In my tests it's been a lot more static and friction sensitive then the flash mixes I've worked with, especially the copper oxide based flash I mentioned.
Chlorate in general is harder to come by for me as well. I'm not discounting your opinion, you may well know something I don't, but I've never seen Armstrong's mix to be as viable as flash in my applications.
Sulfur
Yes! Sulfur make EVERYTHING BETTER! Thanks!!
Kno4.
Dziadostwo
Get another hobby.
I have many different hobbies.. this is only one.. are you a chemist???
Sorry mate I have reported this dangerous video, this video is misinformation and holds dangerous practices. You need to be more educated before instructing others.
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3g potassium perchlorate
4g dark pyro aluminum powder
3g sulfer
This is Chinese flash #1
Stump remover is potassium perchlorate NOT nitrate
No it isn't. There's an awful lot of ignorance on here. Stump remover is KNO3, potassium nitrate. It's also a good general garden fertiliser.
@@georgecopeman7668 that was a typo 2 years ago dumb dumb. I have forgot more about chemistry than you will ever even know.