@@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol Ive seen people do it with twin cylinder nitros, it gives it a great sound. I was actually going to comment the same thing and ask you to compound it haha. It might actually make a fraction of boost that way too as it is way more efficient than twin turbos and allows less bypass as they're in series and add their output together as opposed to putting out the same output with less workload. Honestly it'd be really awesome to see, you already earned my sub with this video, if you get bored or just want to tinker please give it a shot. Another option would be throwing a nitro engine supercharger on it like warped perception did(They actually make good boost to the point of blowing apart the intake piping with twin blowers) but instead of doing twin blowers do twin turbos compounded into a single blower like guys do with the hellcats, You would absolutely have the most badass sounding toyan engine! hell you could probably set up a little dumpvalve, that would be so darn cool in an rc car/truck or better yet tank haha.
Use a large expansion tube before turbo with a bottle neck at the turbo. Will have lag but will help with the pressure needed to spin it faster, almost like a pre chamber.
Try building some sort off mufflers and i bet the turbo noise would pick up way better on camera i can only imagine how this sounds in person so cool man
Tolerances are already tight on a full size turbo, with some good machine work you could probably build some boost. Unfortunately you'd need tunability or it's just gonna lean out and break up, well, maybe not with just a pound or two.
Doesn't matter what it is you gotta make it unique cause anyone can buy the kit but to custom fab and plumb a twin turbo set no matter if it adds power or not it looks awesome..
Lol definitely looks awesome!!! Would be cool is someone actually machined the turbines for you. May actually make a lbs or so. Definitely cool to look at
You should try this with the turbokeychains TK10-R, they’re sealed with o rings so you shouldn’t get blowby out of the compressor and they’re rated for 80,000 rpm, really curious if that turbo would actually make boost because it’s about as close to the real thing as you can get right now
@@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol ah makes sense, great video by the way i love those little engines and would love to see more, thinking of getting a Cison engine myself but they’re a little on the pricy side for me, they seem well worth it though for the engineering marvels that they are
Is that T-Maxx tank help with the lower outlet vs the top ones?. I would imagine gravity is much grater at the bottom allowing fuel assist much easier then the engine trying to sip out the fuel out the top of tanks. Let me know if you noticed any difference. Cool sound and it idles great. Awesome looking too.
Casey Moore was right by suggesting you need to be under load. This is why... . Like a standard engine will not make boost in neutral bcs the air coming in to the air intake is going out the exhaust at the same rate. It’s got to be under load bcs that load slows down the piston travel speed (rpm) causing the air rushing in to slowly start to get backed up and it’ll build pressure. That time delay is called turbo lag. No resistance, no turbo lag, no boos build up.
@@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol ... Hmmmmm Im sure you can make a bench test rig. Something belt driven on a weighted pulley that you could adjust the resistance on. Like an old school cardio bike. Easier said than done right lol but it is a simple concept.
She is so good looking , id display one on a shelf as well as build a rig for one , I was looking at the Phil berg 1/14 kenworth k200 bodies , long enough to shoehorn this darling in .
I have seen the rotory motor for rc 1/10 scale and they are identical to the 13B, with real working turbos. They drag race them, they are really powerful 2WD with import body's
Why not compound turbo setup? I’m hoping it’s the CNC impellers, but haven’t you tried compound instead for higher spools and build some psi since these engines aren’t that high of exhaust flow….
to make those keychains work, get HDD small ball bearings, custom made lathe or cnc impellers, with tight tolerances they will produce positive pressure... or for a big single turbo, get the smallest RC plane turbine u can get, and convert it to a turbocharger, might involve sculpting and casting the housing
@@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol if u get it right, u gonna need a waste gate/pressure relieve valve, a simple and small water faucet assembly has almost all u need for that, using an RC suspension spring as passive by pass valve,
Do you think the turbos would be better if the motor was under load? I think that's how a friend of mine gets his car to spool up, has to give it gas in gear with the brakes on, wont spool the same in neutral. I dont know but I admire your work and thought that might be something to try. Looks awesome by the way. Also might be a way to metal 3d print some different impellers to get to spool up at various rpm ranges?
You are correct. Like a standard engine will not make boost in neutral bcs the air coming in to the air intake is going out the exhaust at the same rate. It’s got to be under load bcs that load slows down the piston travel speed (rpm) causing the air rushing in to slowly start to get backed up and it’ll build pressure. That time delay is called turbo lag. No resistance, no turbo lag, no boos build up. Good job Casey... you should also read my main comment on the main comment section about engine and turbo tuning.
It would have to be millibars or something super precise bcs a normal boost gauge won’t budge until it comes out of vacuum and it has to at least be 3/4 of a lbs to see it budge and I would imagine these turbos might not even move one square inch of air.
I’ll share this comment on the main thread but I would measure the total volume of all 4 cylinders and my goal would be to double it. As if 14lbs of actual boost on a standard engine will argumentatively double the existing hp. Your only nemesis would be knowing how much compression these piston seals can withhold. (COULD) it compress twice the air volume? (AND) is the spark hot enough to ignite air that is more dense bcs that increases the moisture content. A good bench test would be having a SET & REGULATED air pressure supply that can be force fed into the air intake at full throttle and see if the engine can compress the air. If each cylinder is let’s say.... 5 cubic millimeters then we would have 20 millimeters total cylinder capacity. Double that to 40 millimeters of cubic air space force feed at full throttle. You should also double your gas for this bench test as a corner stone to see if the motor can actually compress the extra air and also ignite it. There are also factors on the octane content bcs we don’t know if it will pre ignite under the xtra pressure. There’s other factors that can be bench tested too but I’ll stop here and let someone else fill in their thoughts.
I would measure the total volume of all 4 cylinders and my goal would be to double it. As if 14lbs of actual boost on a standard engine will argumentatively double the existing hp. Your only nemesis would be knowing how much compression these piston seals can withhold. (COULD) it compress twice the air volume? (AND) is the spark hot enough to ignite air that is more dense bcs that increases the moisture content. A good bench test would be having a SET & REGULATED air pressure supply that can be force fed into the air intake at full throttle and see if the engine can compress the air and respond well. If each cylinder is let’s say.... 5 cubic millimeters then we would have 20 millimeters total cylinder capacity. Double that to 40 millimeters of cubic air space force feed at full throttle. You should also double your gas for this bench test as a corner stone to see if the motor can actually compress the extra air and also ignite it. There are also factors on the octane content bcs we don’t know if it will pre ignite under the xtra pressure. There’s other factors that can be bench tested too but I’ll stop here and let someone else fill in their thoughts.
how did you make your Y pipe? if you have a 3d printer you could cast one out of aluminum pretty easily using the lost pla method it acts just like wax when hot. put the pla mold with a riser and vent in some plaster of paris in a soup can let it dry a few days then bake out the pla you melt some scrap aluminum casting chunks with a weed burner and a steel pot
Have it so the intake doesn't suck in anything if it breaks. Looks good, Sure you could spend some money and make it work. I wanted to pick one up, but didn't realize it was so small. 1hp is not bad though. I hope the new twin cam is a little bigger. I would like to see one in a jetboat. Keep up the great work!
Look wise it looks great. But those key chain turbos arnt meant to actually work like a turbo they don’t care what the compressor wheel actually does not bushings or shaft or sealing
Dennis. Do you have any plans to acquire an Enjomor 36cc in line four with twin cam crossflow head with integral pil pump and external water pump. CDI ignition too.
Hey just wanted to thank you for what your doing. Lately you seem less excited in your videos. Love the content, but I hope double deuce is doing ok. Rooting for you anytime you put out content, and I guess now that you got Toyan engines, I hope that it doesn’t put your weedwacker engine in the junkyard. Lol
Thanks brother, I have been stressed lately lol, guess it shows . I was storm thinking about the V8 weed wacker the other day its still front and center on the build table.
@@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol that’s good to hear. I may be a stranger to you on the internet but you are a great guy with a like mind. Hope you can get some relief for your stress and get back to happiness. I’m proud to see your accomplishments.
@@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol maybe you need to take one of the turbos bigger than the other one or super charger and turbo on the same engine like Volvo does.
Yo mistah... i have built a mini v8 (modified v8 from toyan) to sound like a f1 engine.... also come canada they have the best trucks (aside from america)..
@@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol yeah I thought so. Air flow and pressure are probably minuscule but very cool nonetheless. Where can I get something like this
Amazing that is Dennis .
Love your work mate, keep it coming. 👍👍👍-
Thanks brother, I have more mods coming to try when the parts get delivered.
if only one could hear the spool up and waste gate chatter. fantastic work non the less
Next stop, compound turbo setup. More complexity. :)
Cool idea my friend!
I think someone has done that on one of these, but I could be wrong
@@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol Ive seen people do it with twin cylinder nitros, it gives it a great sound. I was actually going to comment the same thing and ask you to compound it haha. It might actually make a fraction of boost that way too as it is way more efficient than twin turbos and allows less bypass as they're in series and add their output together as opposed to putting out the same output with less workload. Honestly it'd be really awesome to see, you already earned my sub with this video, if you get bored or just want to tinker please give it a shot. Another option would be throwing a nitro engine supercharger on it like warped perception did(They actually make good boost to the point of blowing apart the intake piping with twin blowers) but instead of doing twin blowers do twin turbos compounded into a single blower like guys do with the hellcats, You would absolutely have the most badass sounding toyan engine! hell you could probably set up a little dumpvalve, that would be so darn cool in an rc car/truck or better yet tank haha.
Things sure have progressed from single cylinder 2-stroke glow-plug engines.
These are just keychain turbos they don't make any real boost
I know right! Next level rc right here
Don't even need a car to enjoy this hobby now
@@codejunki567 sounds good though, and looks nice.
@@Elias_Harrison They are very cool. The good ones with a little grease will spin quite fast!
Awesome work mate, greeting from Australia✌🏽
Thank you! nice to meet you my friend!
incredible little motor...very impressed
Thanks my friend!
Awesome Dennis! Great work
Thanks brother!
Cool work.
It'll be interesting to see what happens under load when exhaust volume and peak temperatures increase.
Great point, lots of uncharted territory here,
It's so funny to see one of those cute little toyan l400s with twin turbo, but it makes me wanna buy a toyan l400 even more.
Very nice engine and runs stable, had a great desire to give a few thrusts while watching. .
A few thrusts of what?
Playing with the throttle ...
@@udoworner4399 oh I see
Thanks my friend, more mods to be added soon!
Use a large expansion tube before turbo with a bottle neck at the turbo. Will have lag but will help with the pressure needed to spin it faster, almost like a pre chamber.
Lol we get it you watch boostedbois
Nice work Dennis! You finally installed one of those PC radiators 😉 but not as an intercooler
I have been looking for a intercooler that will fit a project its going in,
Awesome build 🙌✌
Thanks 😁
I love the look of anodized aluminum
Thanks!
Now that is beautiful
Very cool Dennis!
Engine looks awesome.
Thanks my friend!
Great stuff 👍
Thanks 👍
Try building some sort off mufflers and i bet the turbo noise would pick up way better on camera i can only imagine how this sounds in person so cool man
That’s too cool unwed to show this to cleetus he would definitely want one!
Yeah he would love this lol!
Tolerances are already tight on a full size turbo, with some good machine work you could probably build some boost. Unfortunately you'd need tunability or it's just gonna lean out and break up, well, maybe not with just a pound or two.
How cute!
Doesn't matter what it is you gotta make it unique cause anyone can buy the kit but to custom fab and plumb a twin turbo set no matter if it adds power or not it looks awesome..
Thanks my friend! my thoughts exactly! sometimes we have to step out of the box and build an idea,
Lol definitely looks awesome!!! Would be cool is someone actually machined the turbines for you. May actually make a lbs or so. Definitely cool to look at
That would be cool I imagine there will be upgrades made for these.
You should try this with the turbokeychains TK10-R, they’re sealed with o rings so you shouldn’t get blowby out of the compressor and they’re rated for 80,000 rpm, really curious if that turbo would actually make boost because it’s about as close to the real thing as you can get right now
that's what these are, custom cnc machined impellers and custom sealed bearings, I had 4 custom sets made from them, 👍👌
@@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol ah makes sense, great video by the way i love those little engines and would love to see more, thinking of getting a Cison engine myself but they’re a little on the pricy side for me, they seem well worth it though for the engineering marvels that they are
Looks good Dennis
Thanks my friend!
Is that T-Maxx tank help with the lower outlet vs the top ones?. I would imagine gravity is much grater at the bottom allowing fuel assist much easier then the engine trying to sip out the fuel out the top of tanks. Let me know if you noticed any difference. Cool sound and it idles great. Awesome looking too.
Good point I never thought about testing the different tank exits, Got to defiantly do a video on it, Thanks brother!
Love this
Thanks my friend!
Casey Moore was right by suggesting you need to be under load. This is why...
. Like a standard engine will not make boost in neutral bcs the air coming in to the air intake is going out the exhaust at the same rate. It’s got to be under load bcs that load slows down the piston travel speed (rpm) causing the air rushing in to slowly start to get backed up and it’ll build pressure. That time delay is called turbo lag. No resistance, no turbo lag, no boos build up.
Yeah I agree, got to find a mini dyno to test these
@@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol ... Hmmmmm Im sure you can make a bench test rig. Something belt driven on a weighted pulley that you could adjust the resistance on. Like an old school cardio bike. Easier said than done right lol but it is a simple concept.
Very nice engine 😊
Thank you very much!
I'm no expert but the filter is meant to be on the compressor wheel side, then turbine wheel to exhaust gas inlet then out to exhaust system.
She is so good looking , id display one on a shelf as well as build a rig for one , I was looking at the Phil berg 1/14 kenworth k200 bodies , long enough to shoehorn this darling in .
That would be cool to see one in the Kenworth!
Something more than nothing is always better.
I agree, eye candy lol!
I have seen the rotory motor for rc 1/10 scale and they are identical to the 13B, with real working turbos. They drag race them, they are really powerful 2WD with import body's
Yeah they are sweet engines they shoot fire out the exhausts when running! lol
Awesome 😎!!!!!
Thanks 😁
Suuuch a cooool ideaaaa! wow
Thank you! 😊
Very nice!
Thanks!
Why not compound turbo setup? I’m hoping it’s the CNC impellers, but haven’t you tried compound instead for higher spools and build some psi since these engines aren’t that high of exhaust flow….
👍🏼good stuff
Thanks!
Awesome!!!!
Thanks!!
Awesome little bit of kit as stock, but us petrol heads were never gony be happy with just n/a🤣🤙
Great point! lol
mad scientist
to make those keychains work, get HDD small ball bearings, custom made lathe or cnc impellers, with tight tolerances they will produce positive pressure... or for a big single turbo, get the smallest RC plane turbine u can get, and convert it to a turbocharger, might involve sculpting and casting the housing
Thanks my friend, I will look into the parts. I have a couple extra new units I want to convert.
@@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol if u get it right, u gonna need a waste gate/pressure relieve valve, a simple and small water faucet assembly has almost all u need for that, using an RC suspension spring as passive by pass valve,
Do you think the turbos would be better if the motor was under load? I think that's how a friend of mine gets his car to spool up, has to give it gas in gear with the brakes on, wont spool the same in neutral. I dont know but I admire your work and thought that might be something to try. Looks awesome by the way. Also might be a way to metal 3d print some different impellers to get to spool up at various rpm ranges?
You are correct. Like a standard engine will not make boost in neutral bcs the air coming in to the air intake is going out the exhaust at the same rate. It’s got to be under load bcs that load slows down the piston travel speed (rpm) causing the air rushing in to slowly start to get backed up and it’ll build pressure. That time delay is called turbo lag. No resistance, no turbo lag, no boos build up. Good job Casey... you should also read my main comment on the main comment section about engine and turbo tuning.
Cool dennis😎😎👍👍
Do you have plans of hooking it up to a boost gauge to see if its actually building boost? I'm super curious
It would have to be millibars or something super precise bcs a normal boost gauge won’t budge until it comes out of vacuum and it has to at least be 3/4 of a lbs to see it budge and I would imagine these turbos might not even move one square inch of air.
I’ll share this comment on the main thread but I would measure the total volume of all 4 cylinders and my goal would be to double it. As if 14lbs of actual boost on a standard engine will argumentatively double the existing hp. Your only nemesis would be knowing how much compression these piston seals can withhold. (COULD) it compress twice the air volume? (AND) is the spark hot enough to ignite air that is more dense bcs that increases the moisture content. A good bench test would be having a SET & REGULATED air pressure supply that can be force fed into the air intake at full throttle and see if the engine can compress the air. If each cylinder is let’s say.... 5 cubic millimeters then we would have 20 millimeters total cylinder capacity. Double that to 40 millimeters of cubic air space force feed at full throttle. You should also double your gas for this bench test as a corner stone to see if the motor can actually compress the extra air and also ignite it. There are also factors on the octane content bcs we don’t know if it will pre ignite under the xtra pressure. There’s other factors that can be bench tested too but I’ll stop here and let someone else fill in their thoughts.
Look at the baby turbos ahhhh
Stirling kit makes real snail belt supercharger man
yeah they introduced that about a year after I did this video,
I would measure the total volume of all 4 cylinders and my goal would be to double it. As if 14lbs of actual boost on a standard engine will argumentatively double the existing hp. Your only nemesis would be knowing how much compression these piston seals can withhold. (COULD) it compress twice the air volume? (AND) is the spark hot enough to ignite air that is more dense bcs that increases the moisture content. A good bench test would be having a SET & REGULATED air pressure supply that can be force fed into the air intake at full throttle and see if the engine can compress the air and respond well. If each cylinder is let’s say.... 5 cubic millimeters then we would have 20 millimeters total cylinder capacity. Double that to 40 millimeters of cubic air space force feed at full throttle. You should also double your gas for this bench test as a corner stone to see if the motor can actually compress the extra air and also ignite it. There are also factors on the octane content bcs we don’t know if it will pre ignite under the xtra pressure. There’s other factors that can be bench tested too but I’ll stop here and let someone else fill in their thoughts.
Cool ideas there, these engines are so new no one has fully tested them like that, maybe over time there will be a optional testing location for them.
@@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol .... I have confidence lol.
Wow you must be a mechanic?
You need to make a couple headers that go into a V shape
Good work bud. I'm new around here what are you going to run this engine in? 👍✌️🤙
Not sure yet but Its defiantly going in something cool,
@@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol cool man can't wait. If you loosen up your clutch springs it would work well in a crawler
I would like to see a Volvo engine for this little engine like one with a supercharger and a turbo on it.
how did you make your Y pipe?
if you have a 3d printer you could cast one out of aluminum pretty easily using the lost pla method it acts just like wax when hot. put the pla mold with a riser and vent in some plaster of paris in a soup can let it dry a few days then bake out the pla you melt some scrap aluminum casting chunks with a weed burner and a steel pot
I made a small engine block one time using the lost wax method.
Awesome sound, i love it
Thanks my friend!
Where do you bought those turbos in want them
Where did you get the turbo?
Have it so the intake doesn't suck in anything if it breaks. Looks good, Sure you could spend some money and make it work. I wanted to pick one up, but didn't realize it was so small. 1hp is not bad though. I hope the new twin cam is a little bigger. I would like to see one in a jetboat. Keep up the great work!
I know the twin cam engine is a lot bigger, I plan on doing a build with one but I cant find out what the hp is yet,
Scaled ft-lbs would be ft-gr of boost?
you should spice up the fuel and put a 2 step on it.
🏆 🏆
Where did you get the turbos? Did you build them? Do you sell them?
I had them built , at keychainturbos.com,
Maybe you need to do a fuel injection system for it direct and port.
Timsane is making high performance parts for them with different carbs, I have them coming when he finishes them.
Look wise it looks great. But those key chain turbos arnt meant to actually work like a turbo they don’t care what the compressor wheel actually does not bushings or shaft or sealing
Nice Engineering.
Thanks my friend!
When you say key chairs turbos, are they non functional toy bits or can they produce any boost?
They have ceramic bearings and a cnc machined impeller but not much function, mostly for looks.
Cooool
Thanks my friend!
Can you try again with better turbos
restrict the exhaust flow it will boost more
I'm about to do the same but place it in a tamiya grand hauler truck
That will be a cool build!
Dennis. Do you have any plans to acquire an Enjomor 36cc in line four with twin cam crossflow head with integral pil pump and external water pump. CDI ignition too.
I got a sneak peek a few months back, I do have a build it will fit in but I want to wait to see how they are.
@@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol Me too.
How many oz is the tank?
The key chain turbos don't have actual compression they just spin.
I agree brother, but it was worth a try,
is there an mini dyno you can use for these engines? may help to tune this.
JohnnyQ90 on yt made a vid like that
Thats crazy 🤪 love it add nos
Thanks brother!
So that's what that ridiculous thumbnail is for. Now I get it. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I wish i could give more like
Would like to see if it really increases anything
I agree, wish I had a way to test it
Sick see if the turbos put out enough psi to blow up a small party balloon 🎈🤟💪
LOL! that would be cool,
@@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol yes give it a go
They put out nothing. Just jewerly pieces.
im a bit new here but are you gonna put it in something?
Yeah, im going to put it in my Skyline that I already installed a Toyan L400 in.
cê tá doido que coisa de se ver.
I didn't know they were that big in the pictures they look so tiny
They make 2 sizes,
make it go shutututu!!!
no blow off valve yet lol
Where did you buy these turbos?
turbokeychains.com
wait so does it actually boost or is it all for looks?
mostly looks.
Hey just wanted to thank you for what your doing. Lately you seem less excited in your videos. Love the content, but I hope double deuce is doing ok. Rooting for you anytime you put out content, and I guess now that you got Toyan engines, I hope that it doesn’t put your weedwacker engine in the junkyard. Lol
Thanks brother, I have been stressed lately lol, guess it shows . I was storm thinking about the V8 weed wacker the other day its still front and center on the build table.
@@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol that’s good to hear. I may be a stranger to you on the internet but you are a great guy with a like mind. Hope you can get some relief for your stress and get back to happiness. I’m proud to see your accomplishments.
@@cbrc4216 That means a lot to me, Thanks!
Are they twin scrolling or is one turbo bigger than the other?
They are both the same size turbos,
@@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol maybe you need to take one of the turbos bigger than the other one or super charger and turbo on the same engine like Volvo does.
What's the link for the key chain turbos?
the website is keychainturbos.com
u n johnny q90 should collab
Where did you get the turbos?
Keychainturbos.com
Take the filters off they're restricting alot of airflow!
True they do restrict it.
Sa serait top d'avoir des mini turbo comme sa ou les trouver svp
they sell them at keychainturbos.com
Yo mistah... i have built a mini v8 (modified v8 from toyan) to sound like a f1 engine.... also come canada
they have the best trucks (aside from america)..
I love this! yes I need some Canadian time again in my life!
Turbos look like they’re taking in exhaust fumes no?
where did u get the twin turbos
keychainturbos.com You can order custom built turbos with ceramic bearings and CNC machined impellers.
Are those the ball bearing turbos?
Yes the ceramic ones.
Next step make a gearbox
are they keyring turbos??
yeah,
Does it increase power by a substantial amount? Does it make boost?
not really its more for looks
@@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol yeah I thought so. Air flow and pressure are probably minuscule but very cool nonetheless. Where can I get something like this
@@rudydaberry122 the engine can be bought here, they sell better turbos also.www.stirlingkit.com/?ref=vmjqswwlkvp
Do they actually make any boost ??
No they don't really add any boost but they don't restrict any power either, they are kinda eye candy on the engine.
..wistiling right....😉
Yes indeed!