He then later was freed by another villain… only for the Rogues to find him and murder him on the spot leaving a note to The Flash saying: “Now we’re even. ~The Rogues”
How much longer after he was put in the museum? I hope it's like 100 years after, because if it's like a few days after he was frozen then that would suck
If you kill Bart Allen -The Flash fam will hunt you down -The JLA will hunt you down -The JSA will hunt you down -Young Justice will hunt you down -The Bat Fam will hunt you down -The Super fam will hunt you down -The Rouges will hunt you down Inertia....for a person with super speed.....you must be mentally slow!
Seriously. Whoever created him must've been on one HELL of a bad trip from the brown acid to think making him that slow in the head was a good idea. That, or someone equally fucked up in the same way and made it so the faster he is, the more stupid he becomes.
"There's a difference between putting some faceless no name goon in the hospital. and putting a child soldier in suspended animation with only their brain active so that they will forever look at the reminder of their short comings. I put them in the hospital yes. However Wally you made them' wish they were in the morgue."-batman@@zacglover3345
I always think that's a funny corollary when stories about the morality of killing come up "I will not stop so low as to kill someone" *the hero says* "instead I shall torture them brutally while keeping them alive"
@@Wiki1184 I'll never forget in the new dr who when giant spiders attacked the country, she chided the trump allegory character for wanting to shoot the spiders dead and then she decided the more morally upright solution was to lock the spiders in an airtight room and let them cannibalize and then starve to death
@@Magnet_Chaos ikr In the ww2 episode she finds out the nazi squad is being led by the master, who is an Indian man in this incarnation, with a disguise to make him look like a white man with blue eyes And she decides to deactivate his disguise and leave him behind for the, again, nazis, to catch him It was a wack season
I'll always find it funny how Wally got to establish himself as the married Dad Flash better than his Uncle Barry. In the comics they barely acknowledge Iris gave birth to the Tornado twins
I mean, it hasn't happened yet in the main timeline tho, it's only happened in the future. Meanwhile we saw Wally and Linda have their kids in the main continuity.
@@thekodex1186 it technically did tho, before dying in crisis on infinite earths, Barry and Iris travelled to the 30th century to have the twins then he died and left her with the kids. After that they were only mentioned as background characters for XS and Impulses origin
There’s a ‘What If’ comic that Venom harasses Mary Jane and his little daughter. Spidey stopped holding back his fists and actually kills Venom, something that he’s never had the raw abilities to do.
its funny, there's a comic about spiderman, where he gets a cold, so he stops making his quips due to throatache. that day, everytime he started to go after a villain, and they realized he wasnt as talkative as he normally was... they all surrendered, because they were afraid he was pissed off.
Dude. That's so fucked up. It's maddening to be stuck in place unable to move or do anything. That's literally Lock-in syndrome, and that's one of my worst nightmares ever.
Not just that, he left him frozen in front of the Impulse/Kid Flash exhibit in the Flash Museum. The guy has to watch people praise and respect his most hated enemy for all time
Alright, so in the comic, it says that Inertia will take 100 years to just blink. That means that he’s moving roughly 31 BILLION times slower than an ORDINARY HUMAN. For someone with former access to the Speed Force, that is probably the equivalent of moving backwards in time. (Edited to check the math)
Heroes deciding not to kill is both more satisfying and more terrifying to me because what's worse that can happen to you than being killed? This and Spider-Man absolutely dominating Kingpin in Back in Black are examples I can think of.
I dont think thats just humiliation. Imagine, every itch, every sneeze, every time his eyes need to blink. Though hes being held still, imagine the pins and needles his body may still feel. Not to mention all the other issues that come from not being able to move like that
Yep! Which is something I can’t honestly grasp. Your Fighting People Who WANT to hurt you! You think this is sport? Don’t be overconfident because you beat certain ones more frequently. Because it takes one day for THEM to snap and really show you why they the Villian🤷🏿♂️
@@devionewilkins8903 Well they know this, it's just that some villains have class and wouldn't go after kids. Then the other thing, They just review their morals after such events. They don't necessarily turn evil, but maybe make a change or two to the whole no kill rule. Ofc nothing would change much unless it's the injustice storyline where everyone pretty much encourages the killing criminals thing.
@@devionewilkins8903You could say the same for the villians. People in these comments feeling bad for a crazy kid who planned the murder of another kid. Nah even the rogues knew they fucked up and panicked. Seeing villians realize the heroes stop playing and brown their pants is the best thing in these stories. Like when Spiderman loses it and all the villians go "Wait, this isn't how it goes down! Stop please!" Because they forgot that the joking neighborhood friend has super human strength and is capable of ripping your limbs, but some idiot had the bright idea of killing his aunt or girlfriend or didn't notice the new black suit...
@@virgilio6349 Yep! The villains focus on the all-around annoying jokester that Spider-Man is. He mostly just avoids attacks and jumps around and webs them up. But people often forget, and I mean often, Spider-Man when you think of it is a pretty damn Terrifying Individual. You have a man who can climb up walls, jump 8-10 meters in the air, fast enough to cross the entire New York in under 5 minutes, more agile than a Olympic level gymnast, and Can lift over 15-20 tons. (More under extreme stress.) Peter is just a good guy, even kaine or Ben Reilly stated that when either him or kaine are coming, they know how to prepare. But if it’s the original Spider-Man, they panic. Even Sandman who is basically almost a omega threat, is scared of him.
funny enough "The Flash"'s rogues gallery knows not to cross that line, they won't kill, nor people nor the flash, because they know, the moment they cross that line and kill the hero, there will be another one to replace him and that hero might not be so lenient, you have to royally piss off the rogues so they consider killing someone, something Inertia found out the moment he appeared again after killing Bart Allen.
Nope in a month or two he was free. And he said all he could think about was getting revenge. Unfortunately so could the rogues villains he tricked, They tracked him down killed him and left him with a note. Dear flash, we're even - Rouges
Yeah, him saying the kid screamed like a bitch was just, like, the unnecessarily extra kick in the nuts. Especially since this came right off the heels of him telling Flash how Bart - _the person he's a copy of_ - was weakened by him.
While I kinda agree, he was just a kid. He definitely had potential to change and be reformed but flash just shat that away for some quick satisfaction
@@grease08That’s what differentiates Wally from Barry. Barry will find another way without resorting to drastic measures. Something Spider-Man would do. Wally on the other hand, he doesn’t kill too. But he’s not against making them wish for death. If I can recall, Wally Scared Reversed So Bad That Reversed mainly put his focus onto Barry for a lil while. He still will fight Wally, but won’t go too far.
@@devionewilkins8903 Holy moly, I couldn't have said this better myself, commenters always tell me that Wally is more pure hearted and mentally stable than Barry but I think it's the opposite since it really depends on how much you push Wally to actually kill someone. Heck, the only time Barry actually killed someone in pre-crisis was when Eobard was about to kill Fiona and it wasn't even intentional what Barry did to Thawne.. it was an accident.
I said the same thing! Because when you keep villains alive, they come back stronger than before every time. Who is to say that inertia might break free? He was already unstable before, Now imagine him completely out of his mind. No telling what he will do. I’m against heroes killing too. I believe everyone is capable of Redemption. But some people are just TOO far gone in they ways you have no other choice. “Everyone Has A Limit, So You better thank God They extend it.”
@@devionewilkins8903this is why every hero needs an anti hero or sometimes even a straight up villainous pal that can take care of the dirty work needed to wrap up loose ends.
@@westof-whatever yeah Batman thinking Zzazz (or most of his rogue gallery tbh) could change after the 500th trip to the asylum makes me doubt his intelligence sometimes
Dont forget the cherry on top: Inertia is left as a living statue placed right infront Bart's statue, to forever look at the guy who killed, and most importantly, was and will always be, better than him.
@@FragrantcanaryYeah, but that doesn't mean it wasn't a mistake? If people write down things that they're a hundred percent sure that it's right all the time, then I wouldn't have failed my math test. 😂
I guess the theory is if you don't kill them and they were innocent (or at least not as guilty as previously thought), some sort of restitution can be made. But you can't do that if they're dead. (Setting aside the whole "death ain't necessarily final in comics" trope) .
One thing you kinda flash (heh) on screen without emphasizing is that he doesn't just suck up Inertia's momentum until he's nothing but a statue, but he leaves him standing, eyes wide open, facing a statue of Bart Allen, the boy he killed, the person he could have been, the person he'll never be, forced to watch for eternity at his own failure as a person
@@CommanderBlackout31They felt bad and fear because they realized their wanted level had just gone from B and C tier villians to straight S super and would have to deal with very angry, less forgiving heroes.
The Rogues actually avoid killing as much as possible. Even when they killed Bart, they never planned on actually killing. Just teaching him a lesson. But thanks to Inertia's manipulation Bart was left completely defenseless and the Rogues had no Idea. Just to show you how the Rogues are different from the Sinister Six. They once invited Flash himself to a party after they all got released from Jail. Flash also did his best to help save Captain Cold's sister, and when he succeeded Captain COld himself retired from a life of crime and became friends with Flash. Until writers found a way to bring him back as a villain, that is.
The Rogues are great. Most villain teams like the Sinister Six don't really like each other that much and just work together because it's their best bet to beat the hero, but the Flash Rogues are all actually friends who aren't even that evil for supervillain standards. They don't want to take over the world or anything, they mostly just want to do heists and stuff like that. They have the kind of banter and team dynamics you'd expect from a super*hero* team, they just happen to be villains. And hey, one of them (Evan McCulloch, the second Mirror Master; they have the same costume, but the easiest way to tell them apart is that Evan has a tooth gap and a Scottish accent) is a Grant Morrison creation, that's cool (Morrison didn't write for Flash if you're wondering, Evan actually comes from their Animal Man run but he eventually became a Rogue because the first Mirror Master, Sam Scudder, was a Rogue)
To people saying this is a morbid and morally evil thing to do: yes, it is- but Wally never intended to leave him like that forever. The All-flash comic says that impulse is trapped in a suspended animation that takes him 100years to blink, but it never states that Wally is willing to leave him like that forever. After he is properly humiliated for around a year, in Rogues’ Revenge #1, Inertia is already being transferred out of the museum to a new prison in Iron Heights (even before Zoom saves him) implying Wally eventually planned to free him from the suspension. Don’t get me wrong, Wally is still fucked up for doing something like this, but it isn’t exactly a fate worse than death.
Death is just an easy way out. It's much worse if you are being punished so hard that you wish that you were dead. Kinda remembers me about House of Wax.
Flashes don’t kill?😮 The hell you say?! Flash just killed his dignity! Inertia will forever be a statue, watching life slowly go by. Being a speedster, the humiliation of not being able to move, making a literal living statue is probably crueler than any death that he could’ve suffered.
I heard that inertia was reléase later on but still bullshit that héroes say that killing the villains make them no better yet here comes flash and does something that is worse than death and since it's a fate worse than death then flash is already way worse than the villains for doing something like that
he basically experience having a taste of regret of being immortal and everyone dying in his but instead of being immortal he became an object for the people to be laugh at
The more fun loving, chill, kind hearted the hero is, the more heinous, brutal, savage and outright monstrous atrocities will they commit once pushed over the edge.
Someone once said (paraphrase) that there is nothing more dangerous than a peaceful man who is forced to draw his sword. I can see what you said applying here.
my question is, how is he not dead? flash need to constantly eat due to his high speed metabolism. you would expect the guy to keel over after a week at most.
@@marcosdheleno i mean, if he has super fast metabolism from being so fast, it would stand to (comic book) reason that making him so slow that it takes him 100 years to blink would reduce his metabolism to that speed as well
@@marcosdheleno Dude he stole the whole concept of speed from Inertia, leaving only his consciousness intact. His body itself works ultra slowly, a day feels like a hundred years, so his body has barely started to dissolve any sort of food. And the food itself is shielded from decomposing as well. So Inertia is well fed, and doesn't need water. But he is fully conscious and his mind is the only thing working at normal speeds.
ppl always say its wrong to kill because its robs the person of their potential future, But i always felt that completely messing with their future and forcing them to live that is way worse.
I honestly thought he was going to trap him in the speed force to be immortal but in constant torture as since he can't access it he can't escape nor control it meaning his body would constantly be warping while he is in constant pain and tortue
How? Ones the fastest, the other the strongest. Bruce Wayne and Lex Luther, are far more terrifying. God like beings, beating ,what do you expect. A common man...whole another thing.
@@Googleisstupid-sk3hm Because Bruce puts people in a coma on the regular. And Lex is a ruthless businessman who has no problem killing people. That’s nothing new for anyone. The Flashes are saintly compared to the other heroes. Most criminals in Central City find themselves in a jail cell after blinking during a heist. There are usually no injuries beyond disorientation. It takes a lot to push a Flash this bad.
@@Googleisstupid-sk3hmIt's because Spider-Man and The Flash are such jovial people usually. They're constantly joking around with their villains, even in tense and serious situations. When they stop screwing around and get fully serious, you KNOW you've fucked up
@@lavernebennet7395 Techinally every member of the Flash family is related to Thawne (though only by Marriage in Wally’s case) since Thawne’s ancestor is Barry’s twin brother.
I like the rogues felt shame for what they did. Flash always felt more grounded to me, being on a town scale (for the most part), and the remorse for killing a child nails it excellently it's kind of like how, in another comic, flash is shown to be one of the most feared heroes because he talks to the villains. batman breaks bones, superman puts you in jail, flash reminds you you can be someone better.
Worse part is, Inertia's body is still "Moving" but it's so slow you almost can't tell, but his mind isn't effected, so he can't do anything, he can't even so much as scream. Wally trapped a man to never eat, sleep, move and say anything forever and he's fully aware of time moving yet can't do anything about it
So... He was left there to be a statue until his mind rots out of boredom and madness, and his memorey cracked and shattered.... All until he stops thinking
That's the same thing Wally did to Zoom when they first fought. He didn't display him like this, but he did put him in a glass container and he is on his knees with his hands upward like he was feeling himself lose momentum, and then freezing in they position.
Slightly different scenario- Zoom was warping time to speed, not using the speed force. Wally actually tried (and failed) to steal his speed to stop him, and Zoom was gradually breaking the time stream so windows in time kept opening up. So Wally stuffed his head into one of those windows, temporal feedback, Zoom locked in time in a kneeling position. Although he eventually just came out of it on his own but didn't bother to move because he didn't see the point. Some of Wally's villains are severely messed up.
@@BugzToon1 It’s always one end of the spectrum or another with the Flash family’s villains. Either they’re kookie specialists like the Rogues, who view it all as a game, or they’re complete psychos who are threats to the world at large. And unfortunately, the speedster villains are all on the dangerous end of the spectrum. And those in the middle of the spectrum don’t last long in Central City. Either they can’t take the supreme guilt tripping skills of the Flashes, or they get run off by the Rogues for putting their game in danger.
Fortunately, Brainiac 5 was able to bring Bart back to life in the future. He also brought back Conner Kent, and together they helped three different Legions stop Superboy Prime. It was hilarious how SP was afraid of Bart's return, so Impulse said "Boo!" when he reappeared to make fun of SP!
Villain: JA! you can;t unalive me because of you stupid moral code Hero: Then I will grant immortality like a statue while being alive Villain: *realizes that death is a mercy freedon of pain*
Oh so we're not going to kill him, we'll do worse. Yeah that's not crossing the line, that's drawing a new one entirly. Imagine not being able to move for all of time staring! Staring only with your own thoughts forever and ever, not being able to speak, breath, sleep, eat, drink, itch yourself, move, not being able to scream, cry, yell for help. Being locked up in a room for the rest of your life is a better choice than going through what wally just did to him. That was truly evil of wally I'm not going to lie.
The Speedforce takes care of that. Keeps him alive, conscious, and thinking at normal speed, even as every physical process in his body is crawling along too slowly for it to be measured.
People don’t realize that there are things worse than death. This is one of them. Imagine never being able to move again, to never be able to feed yourself, clothe yourself, even WIPE yourself… In this case, he will forever stare at a wall, unable to look away… unable to even look around. He will just… look. One way. Forever.
Bro basically just summarized the plot of an entire comic book into about the same amount of time that I imagine it would have taken to just read it, definitely never going to watch something like this again if I can lmao
Wait so after many years, will there just be bones of him still standing in that possession? (sry but i haven’t read much about how this flash powers work)
Wally stole his speed and essentially made it so Inertia lives 1,000 years/sec, but is fully conscious and aware of his surroundings. And then Wally placed him in front of the statue of Bart, to show Inertia the hero he will never become. imagine it taking 100-150 years just to blink once. Inertia deserved it, too. “He’s still conscious. He still sees and hears and thinks in real time. But he’s trapped for eternity in a frozen body forced to stare with eyes that take a hundred years to blink at the ghost of the man he could never be…”
This really shows how "superheroes don't kill, they won't cross that line" is bullshit. Like, flash sentenced that boy to a living nightmare. We can't pretend that _killing him_ is more of a slippery slope.
I remember reading that issue. What Wally did to Inertia was straight up torture. Not saying isn't justifiable, but forcibly confining a person in their own body where their only free motion is breathing? That's torture.
Usually the "no killing" thing heroes like to do irritates me because it's foolish and horribly backfires the overwhelming majority of the time but this is one of the few instances where I think it's a good one. Though it still has plenty of potential to backfire.
The no killing rule on DC usually makes sense. For example Superman doesn't kill because he simply doesn't need need to. He is so overwhelmingly powerful that he can stand to let a villain live and have that villain NEVER pose a threat. Lex Luthor is a great example, even with access to Kyptonite, Superman has fought him so many times that he is now capable of one shotting any of Lex's power armors faster than the Kryptonite can start having an effect, while still holding back enough that the shockwave of his attack does not harm a single cell on Lex's body. Lex himself is more harmless than a fly to Superman, and only poses a problem when he gets other villains involved. Batman doesn't kill because he feels that he has no self control, so if he killed he would literally became DC's Punisher. It's not a matter of morality, but a matter of mantaining his sanity.
And yet how many instances have villains broken out of their respective prisons and then proceeded to wreak havok until they're tossed in prison again? Too many to count. This is why it is stupid. If Batman simply killed The Joker instead of playing their little game how many lives would have been saved? If Superman simply obliterated his enemies like he very well could in most cases how many earthshaking or even cosmic level catastrophes could have been prevented? While some entities may come back from the dead or survive due to BS hacks for most villains being vaporized by Superman or getting a bullet through the brain is permanent and they cannot hurt anyone anymore.
@@AeronHale Actually none. Superman has killed aliens already. For example, he killed Doomsday when he "died" in Death and Return of Superman. There was also a dangerous alien creature he killed that was that was hunting down people. Superman is only averse to killing rational beings, because he believe they can be saved with the right method. He will kill monsters and he will villains who prove to be really irredeemable. Such as when he killed a version of Zod whom he tried to stop, and who didn't really stop until he murdered half of the entire population of that Earth. So Superman straight up killed that Zod and his followers as they escaped to go murder people of yet another Earth. Lex Luthor however is not irredeemable, rather his main issue is Superman's mere existence. Lex Luther has proven to be able to do good, however he is absolutely irreducible when it comes to dealing with Superman. He wants to best Superman at all costs, even at his own sacrifice. There is a story where this pretty much happens. Where he is Given the powers of a God with the promise that he should forget Superman. Lex Luthor actually does a lot of good with those powers, but he simply cannot help himself and challenges Superman, as the fight proceeds, Superman begs Luthor, recognizing that Luthor is capable of being a force of good, but even though Lex slowly loses his power, that is now greater than Superman's, he doesn't stop, wishing to defeat Superman once and for all. Lex corners Superman and is ready to defeat him only to lose all of his powers and dies in space, much to Superman's dismay, who tried literally everything to convince Lex that this fight wasn't necessary and he had a greater potential than himself already. Lex preferred to die defeating Superman than become a savior loved by everyone
Dude The Joker on his own is responsible for hundreds of deaths that could have been prevented by Batman simply offing him. Not to mention the other members of Batman's rogues gallery. One example that comes to mind immediately is Jason Todd. Batman had many chances to take out The Joker but didn't and it bit him in the ass BADLY and has done so on other occasions too. As for Doomsday that is a crappy example given that he IS a walking hack that becomes immune to whatever killed him last so he is one of the examples of enemies that cannot be put down in a permanent sense. Lex Luthor is also a special case because he more or less as you said is only really out for Superman. But Superman has had multiple opportunities to take out a lot of the big names among DC's villains. The line from Batman “If you kill a killer, the number of killers stays the same.” only makes sense on a philosophical level but on a practical level it is fairly easily countered by considering that if they have killed once or multiple times already then they will likely do it again and that removing them from the equation is the least risky gamble and removes the potential of them doing anymore. This is of course not considering instances of self defense or otherwise justified homicide. As those sorts of things do happen.
"And his family got to meet the Avengers" I could almost feel the creation of a new Red Lantern ring from here
Make that three
Genuinely paused the video and said meet the what and checked the comments for this to make sure I wasn't crazy
@@madmalkavian3857 dude literally same hahaha
@@madmalkavian3857 omg just did the same lmaoooo
You guys know he’s joking right?
He then later was freed by another villain… only for the Rogues to find him and murder him on the spot leaving a note to The Flash saying: “Now we’re even. ~The Rogues”
"IM FREE!"-inertia
"and we took that personally"the rogues
@@gregorymee5876 Basically. 🤣 They literally went: “Hey remember us and how you forced us to kill Wally? It’s payback time”
@@williamcote4208 You mean Bart?
How much longer after he was put in the museum? I hope it's like 100 years after, because if it's like a few days after he was frozen then that would suck
Also, which villain freed him?
If you kill Bart Allen
-The Flash fam will hunt you down
-The JLA will hunt you down
-The JSA will hunt you down
-Young Justice will hunt you down
-The Bat Fam will hunt you down
-The Super fam will hunt you down
-The Rouges will hunt you down
Inertia....for a person with super speed.....you must be mentally slow!
Seriously. Whoever created him must've been on one HELL of a bad trip from the brown acid to think making him that slow in the head was a good idea. That, or someone equally fucked up in the same way and made it so the faster he is, the more stupid he becomes.
He fucked around & found out 🤷♂️
And probably some flash villains Will get inside that mix
@@-DEATH_LORD 📈📈📈📈
@@-DEATH_LORD 📈📈📈📈
Testing a Flash's limits is a death sentence. Testing Wally's limits is suicidal.
No, Wally will make you wish for suicide.
You said the same thing twice in different ways. But they are true.
To bats, it’s lethal. To humans, it’s deadly.
He is as good as dead
@@ani3tyy Yeah lol thought I was missing some special meaning for a sec
Batman: “I say no to killing…but Damn Wally?! This is dark.”
Reverse Flash: “… I am sooo proud right now.”
Wally west: batman, you literally bankrupt every goon you come across by sending them to hospital
This proves dark flash right. Bally us not a hero, and should be destroyed
Reverse Flash: I was a fan of yours
The entire justice league: for you? This is thusday batman.
"There's a difference between putting some faceless no name goon in the hospital. and putting a child soldier in suspended animation with only their brain active so that they will forever look at the reminder of their short comings. I put them in the hospital yes. However Wally you made them' wish they were in the morgue."-batman@@zacglover3345
I always think that's a funny corollary when stories about the morality of killing come up
"I will not stop so low as to kill someone" *the hero says* "instead I shall torture them brutally while keeping them alive"
True, if I was a villain in these stories I’d just be like “dude, just kill me.”
@@Wiki1184 I'll never forget in the new dr who when giant spiders attacked the country, she chided the trump allegory character for wanting to shoot the spiders dead and then she decided the more morally upright solution was to lock the spiders in an airtight room and let them cannibalize and then starve to death
@@Minority119 Jesus christ!
@@Minority119 That's the kind of shit that the 10th Doctor did when was really fucking pissed.
But 13th sees it as mercy?
@@Magnet_Chaos ikr
In the ww2 episode she finds out the nazi squad is being led by the master, who is an Indian man in this incarnation, with a disguise to make him look like a white man with blue eyes
And she decides to deactivate his disguise and leave him behind for the, again, nazis, to catch him
It was a wack season
this guy can explain a comic better than an english teacher explaining how a full stop will help me get a job at mcdonalds
A full stop will help you 😊
If thats so then why did he called the justice league the avengers
@@mayothemayo4958 because they the same
@@fakeuber8254 no it wont
r/suspiciouslyspecific but okay
I'll always find it funny how Wally got to establish himself as the married Dad Flash better than his Uncle Barry. In the comics they barely acknowledge Iris gave birth to the Tornado twins
I mean, it hasn't happened yet in the main timeline tho, it's only happened in the future. Meanwhile we saw Wally and Linda have their kids in the main continuity.
@@thekodex1186 it technically did tho, before dying in crisis on infinite earths, Barry and Iris travelled to the 30th century to have the twins then he died and left her with the kids. After that they were only mentioned as background characters for XS and Impulses origin
The most recent issue finally addressed this.
Nah Barry Allen is now like the cool grandpa.
@@TOAOerayeah but he shouldn’t be a grandpa at 29 lol that’s max mercurys whole Schlick
He also made Inertia face Bart's statue, which is an even better revenge besides just freezing him in place.
Imagine pissing off one of the nicer more jokester heroes like Spiderman or The Flash? It gets pretty scary.
Ask kingpin
There’s a ‘What If’ comic that Venom harasses Mary Jane and his little daughter. Spidey stopped holding back his fists and actually kills Venom, something that he’s never had the raw abilities to do.
@@solodeus_rey8548 holy shit.
its funny, there's a comic about spiderman, where he gets a cold, so he stops making his quips due to throatache. that day, everytime he started to go after a villain, and they realized he wasnt as talkative as he normally was... they all surrendered, because they were afraid he was pissed off.
@@solodeus_rey8548 Marvel: What If...? Season 2?
Dude. That's so fucked up. It's maddening to be stuck in place unable to move or do anything. That's literally Lock-in syndrome, and that's one of my worst nightmares ever.
Don't worry Inertia survived and became Kid Zoom,then got killed by the Rogues
He killed my boi Bart Allen....he deserved all that.
@@alexandertelson3713 fk yes bart allen fans!!!
Not just that, he left him frozen in front of the Impulse/Kid Flash exhibit in the Flash Museum. The guy has to watch people praise and respect his most hated enemy for all time
@HELLO_KORO Based rogues, got to kill 2 speedsters in the same story line. How many villian groups can claim such feats.
Alright, so in the comic, it says that Inertia will take 100 years to just blink. That means that he’s moving roughly 31 BILLION times slower than an ORDINARY HUMAN. For someone with former access to the Speed Force, that is probably the equivalent of moving backwards in time.
(Edited to check the math)
"Eyes that take a hundred years to blink" is such a visceral way to describe how horrible it would be. I love it.
Heroes deciding not to kill is both more satisfying and more terrifying to me because what's worse that can happen to you than being killed?
This and Spider-Man absolutely dominating Kingpin in Back in Black are examples I can think of.
In one comic Batman captured the killer of Robins parents and made Robin brutally torture him
@@Vampire_Bat- that's probably all star batman, who's been infamous for being unhinged.
@@Vampire_Bat- bro ehat the hell comic is that
@@ashwolf2006 all star batman and Robin batman. Just not to confuse people. But still don't remember that issue
Spider Man did threaten to kill kingpin if May died
I dont think thats just humiliation. Imagine, every itch, every sneeze, every time his eyes need to blink. Though hes being held still, imagine the pins and needles his body may still feel. Not to mention all the other issues that come from not being able to move like that
imagine needing the toilet then
@@ikbarlking Yikes. "Ever felt the need to pee until the very end of time? I have."
Young Justice’s Light had it right. Nuclear option, indeed. The villains kill the League’s kids, and all Hell will break loose.
Yep! Which is something I can’t honestly grasp. Your Fighting People Who WANT to hurt you! You think this is sport? Don’t be overconfident because you beat certain ones more frequently. Because it takes one day for THEM to snap and really show you why they the Villian🤷🏿♂️
@@devionewilkins8903 Well they know this, it's just that some villains have class and wouldn't go after kids.
Then the other thing, They just review their morals after such events. They don't necessarily turn evil, but maybe make a change or two to the whole no kill rule. Ofc nothing would change much unless it's the injustice storyline where everyone pretty much encourages the killing criminals thing.
@@devionewilkins8903You could say the same for the villians. People in these comments feeling bad for a crazy kid who planned the murder of another kid. Nah even the rogues knew they fucked up and panicked. Seeing villians realize the heroes stop playing and brown their pants is the best thing in these stories. Like when Spiderman loses it and all the villians go "Wait, this isn't how it goes down! Stop please!" Because they forgot that the joking neighborhood friend has super human strength and is capable of ripping your limbs, but some idiot had the bright idea of killing his aunt or girlfriend or didn't notice the new black suit...
@@virgilio6349 Yep! The villains focus on the all-around annoying jokester that Spider-Man is. He mostly just avoids attacks and jumps around and webs them up. But people often forget, and I mean often, Spider-Man when you think of it is a pretty damn Terrifying Individual. You have a man who can climb up walls, jump 8-10 meters in the air, fast enough to cross the entire New York in under 5 minutes, more agile than a Olympic level gymnast, and Can lift over 15-20 tons. (More under extreme stress.) Peter is just a good guy, even kaine or Ben Reilly stated that when either him or kaine are coming, they know how to prepare. But if it’s the original Spider-Man, they panic. Even Sandman who is basically almost a omega threat, is scared of him.
funny enough "The Flash"'s rogues gallery knows not to cross that line, they won't kill, nor people nor the flash, because they know, the moment they cross that line and kill the hero, there will be another one to replace him and that hero might not be so lenient, you have to royally piss off the rogues so they consider killing someone, something Inertia found out the moment he appeared again after killing Bart Allen.
I think this goes a little further beyond humiliation. It’s Inertia being trapped in his own body for years to come.
and no one will notice that he is even alive, because he looks like a statue, he only blinks every hundreds of years.
it is a torture
@@Joyscp999 the true torture: feeling the dryness of unblinking eyes for 100 years
I would go several shades of insane
@@rydergolde3169 yeah
@@rydergolde3169 imagine he mad itchy
@@ericx6969 NOOOOOOOOOOOO-
Eventually, he stopped thinking.
Yare yare... is this a goddamn JoJo reference?
Nope in a month or two he was free. And he said all he could think about was getting revenge. Unfortunately so could the rogues villains he tricked, They tracked him down killed him and left him with a note.
Dear flash, we're even - Rouges
If I’m being honest, Inertia kinda deserved it though
Yeah, him saying the kid screamed like a bitch was just, like, the unnecessarily extra kick in the nuts. Especially since this came right off the heels of him telling Flash how Bart - _the person he's a copy of_ - was weakened by him.
While I kinda agree, he was just a kid. He definitely had potential to change and be reformed but flash just shat that away for some quick satisfaction
@@Keeeeeeeeeeeeeee I feel like Barry wouldn't do this though, new earth Barry at least.
@@grease08That’s what differentiates Wally from Barry. Barry will find another way without resorting to drastic measures. Something Spider-Man would do. Wally on the other hand, he doesn’t kill too. But he’s not against making them wish for death. If I can recall, Wally Scared Reversed So Bad That Reversed mainly put his focus onto Barry for a lil while. He still will fight Wally, but won’t go too far.
@@devionewilkins8903 Holy moly, I couldn't have said this better myself, commenters always tell me that Wally is more pure hearted and mentally stable than Barry but I think it's the opposite since it really depends on how much you push Wally to actually kill someone. Heck, the only time Barry actually killed someone in pre-crisis was when Eobard was about to kill Fiona and it wasn't even intentional what Barry did to Thawne.. it was an accident.
I'm a low-key an Inertia fan but even *I* knew that this was deserved yet over the top at the same time 😭 like damn, Wally, just KILL the kid already!
Inertia deserved it
I said the same thing! Because when you keep villains alive, they come back stronger than before every time. Who is to say that inertia might break free? He was already unstable before, Now imagine him completely out of his mind. No telling what he will do. I’m against heroes killing too. I believe everyone is capable of Redemption. But some people are just TOO far gone in they ways you have no other choice. “Everyone Has A Limit, So You better thank God They extend it.”
Why? He still hasn't done what Impulse did.
@@devionewilkins8903this is why every hero needs an anti hero or sometimes even a straight up villainous pal that can take care of the dirty work needed to wrap up loose ends.
@@westof-whatever yeah Batman thinking Zzazz (or most of his rogue gallery tbh) could change after the 500th trip to the asylum makes me doubt his intelligence sometimes
Dont forget the cherry on top:
Inertia is left as a living statue placed right infront Bart's statue, to forever look at the guy who killed, and most importantly, was and will always be, better than him.
not just better then him, the BETTER him
"The Avengers" caught me off guard😅
Knows comics my ass
@@re-imagination6567It was a joke bro💀
@@Fragrantcanary PROVE IT
@@re-imagination6567 Because he obviously had a script? Bro has to read this, make script and edit.
@@FragrantcanaryYeah, but that doesn't mean it wasn't a mistake? If people write down things that they're a hundred percent sure that it's right all the time, then I wouldn't have failed my math test. 😂
I will never understand the logic behind "Killing someone crosses the line but a fate worse than death doesn't."
Censorship
Facts
No, bad writing bad someone who thought they were so clever.
Exactly
I guess the theory is if you don't kill them and they were innocent (or at least not as guilty as previously thought), some sort of restitution can be made. But you can't do that if they're dead. (Setting aside the whole "death ain't necessarily final in comics" trope) .
One thing you kinda flash (heh) on screen without emphasizing is that he doesn't just suck up Inertia's momentum until he's nothing but a statue, but he leaves him standing, eyes wide open, facing a statue of Bart Allen, the boy he killed, the person he could have been, the person he'll never be, forced to watch for eternity at his own failure as a person
If only the sinister six felt this bad when they killed Peter
The Rogues aren't really cold blooded killers unlike most of the Six which is why they felt bad after killing Bart
@@CommanderBlackout31They felt bad and fear because they realized their wanted level had just gone from B and C tier villians to straight S super and would have to deal with very angry, less forgiving heroes.
The Rogues actually avoid killing as much as possible. Even when they killed Bart, they never planned on actually killing. Just teaching him a lesson. But thanks to Inertia's manipulation Bart was left completely defenseless and the Rogues had no Idea.
Just to show you how the Rogues are different from the Sinister Six. They once invited Flash himself to a party after they all got released from Jail. Flash also did his best to help save Captain Cold's sister, and when he succeeded Captain COld himself retired from a life of crime and became friends with Flash. Until writers found a way to bring him back as a villain, that is.
@@bloody4558 Cold's stint as a hero is one of the best. Short lived as it was, dumb writers.
The Rogues are great. Most villain teams like the Sinister Six don't really like each other that much and just work together because it's their best bet to beat the hero, but the Flash Rogues are all actually friends who aren't even that evil for supervillain standards. They don't want to take over the world or anything, they mostly just want to do heists and stuff like that. They have the kind of banter and team dynamics you'd expect from a super*hero* team, they just happen to be villains.
And hey, one of them (Evan McCulloch, the second Mirror Master; they have the same costume, but the easiest way to tell them apart is that Evan has a tooth gap and a Scottish accent) is a Grant Morrison creation, that's cool (Morrison didn't write for Flash if you're wondering, Evan actually comes from their Animal Man run but he eventually became a Rogue because the first Mirror Master, Sam Scudder, was a Rogue)
2:32 and his family got to meet the avengers
To people saying this is a morbid and morally evil thing to do: yes, it is- but Wally never intended to leave him like that forever.
The All-flash comic says that impulse is trapped in a suspended animation that takes him 100years to blink, but it never states that Wally is willing to leave him like that forever.
After he is properly humiliated for around a year, in Rogues’ Revenge #1, Inertia is already being transferred out of the museum to a new prison in Iron Heights (even before Zoom saves him) implying Wally eventually planned to free him from the suspension.
Don’t get me wrong, Wally is still fucked up for doing something like this, but it isn’t exactly a fate worse than death.
Wow… the fact that he did all of this and planned it perfectly is just amazing, Hell, not even a Joker wants to fuck with him.
No, Inertia deserved this and so much more. Psychotic murderers do not deserve any compassion or mercy.
@@runetide you are not wrong
Wally did nothing wrong.
@@runetide No one deserves to be tortured for years on end.
Death is just an easy way out. It's much worse if you are being punished so hard that you wish that you were dead.
Kinda remembers me about House of Wax.
Oh, you neglected to mention, not only is he frozen, he's frozen and forced to stare at statues of Bart.
bruh that's not just humiliation that's literally one of the greatest torture methods a Flash has ever pulled
Flashes don’t kill?😮 The hell you say?! Flash just killed his dignity! Inertia will forever be a statue, watching life slowly go by. Being a speedster, the humiliation of not being able to move, making a literal living statue is probably crueler than any death that he could’ve suffered.
I heard that inertia was reléase later on but still bullshit that héroes say that killing the villains make them no better yet here comes flash and does something that is worse than death and since it's a fate worse than death then flash is already way worse than the villains for doing something like that
Remember, a hero stands for truth and justice, break that hero or nearly kill them and you suffer a fate worse than death
Remember, justice is not NICE and the truth can break you.
Wow that made Superman's laser lobotomies look chill.
he basically experience having a taste of regret of being immortal and everyone dying in his but instead of being immortal he became an object for the people to be laugh at
The more fun loving, chill, kind hearted the hero is, the more heinous, brutal, savage and outright monstrous atrocities will they commit once pushed over the edge.
Someone once said (paraphrase) that there is nothing more dangerous than a peaceful man who is forced to draw his sword.
I can see what you said applying here.
Wait hold on a second! You’re saying that the flash took more than Inertia’s speed! You’re saying he took his ability to even MOVE! That’s insane!
my question is, how is he not dead? flash need to constantly eat due to his high speed metabolism. you would expect the guy to keel over after a week at most.
@@marcosdheleno exactly!
@@marcosdheleno i mean, if he has super fast metabolism from being so fast, it would stand to (comic book) reason that making him so slow that it takes him 100 years to blink would reduce his metabolism to that speed as well
@@marcosdheleno Dude he stole the whole concept of speed from Inertia, leaving only his consciousness intact. His body itself works ultra slowly, a day feels like a hundred years, so his body has barely started to dissolve any sort of food. And the food itself is shielded from decomposing as well. So Inertia is well fed, and doesn't need water. But he is fully conscious and his mind is the only thing working at normal speeds.
ppl always say its wrong to kill because its robs the person of their potential future, But i always felt that completely messing with their future and forcing them to live that is way worse.
And I say it's wrong to think that way because some people literally forfeit any right to having a future with their actions.
Inertia took a future, Flash made his much worse
I honestly thought he was going to trap him in the speed force to be immortal but in constant torture as since he can't access it he can't escape nor control it meaning his body would constantly be warping while he is in constant pain and tortue
Hats also messed are messed up
At that point, its not humiliation, its torture
Sick written, making heroes emo and dark. They should make him a anti hero, and change his name speed edge, for edge lord he acting as.
@@Googleisstupid-sk3hmYour comment is more edgy than anything in this comic, and you don’t even realize it.
The Rogues being justifiably terrified about the fact that now the entire JL will be after them is honestly hilarious
Bro that's worse than Carbonite 💀
There are two people off the top of my head in Comics that are the epitome of "fuck around and find out" and that's the Flash and Spider-Man
How? Ones the fastest, the other the strongest.
Bruce Wayne and Lex Luther, are far more terrifying.
God like beings, beating ,what do you expect. A common man...whole another thing.
@@Googleisstupid-sk3hm Because Bruce puts people in a coma on the regular. And Lex is a ruthless businessman who has no problem killing people. That’s nothing new for anyone. The Flashes are saintly compared to the other heroes. Most criminals in Central City find themselves in a jail cell after blinking during a heist. There are usually no injuries beyond disorientation. It takes a lot to push a Flash this bad.
@@Googleisstupid-sk3hmIt's because Spider-Man and The Flash are such jovial people usually. They're constantly joking around with their villains, even in tense and serious situations. When they stop screwing around and get fully serious, you KNOW you've fucked up
He didn't just cross the line. He raced past it!
So no-one notice when he said they avengers 0:47. But it's good. The way you were narrating, you were in the zone 💯. Like a flash
I think plenty of people noticed but decided that was a joke.
Thawne: J-Jesus.
Zoom: That uh… That’s fucked up.
especially funny considering both Bart and Thad (Inertia) are descendants of Thawne (through Bart's mom)
@@lavernebennet7395 Techinally every member of the Flash family is related to Thawne (though only by Marriage in Wally’s case) since Thawne’s ancestor is Barry’s twin brother.
“…Eventually Inertia stopped thinking…”
It will take him 100 years just to blink as he is forced to stare endlessly at The Legacy of a man he hated
It’s pretty ironic that a guy called Inertia was sentenced to no longer being able to move 💀
pretty impressive to hold the position until the end of time. Gotta hire him for an art class
And speedsters already feel like a minute is an hour so it would feel like being trapped in an eternity for Inertia
I like the rogues felt shame for what they did. Flash always felt more grounded to me, being on a town scale (for the most part), and the remorse for killing a child nails it excellently
it's kind of like how, in another comic, flash is shown to be one of the most feared heroes because he talks to the villains. batman breaks bones, superman puts you in jail, flash reminds you you can be someone better.
Worse part is, Inertia's body is still "Moving" but it's so slow you almost can't tell, but his mind isn't effected, so he can't do anything, he can't even so much as scream. Wally trapped a man to never eat, sleep, move and say anything forever and he's fully aware of time moving yet can't do anything about it
Imagine they turn the 100 years eye blink into an event and make it flash event. The moment inertia blink when the event start 🤣🤣🤣
I think Inertia died a couple years back
he actually ended up getting unfrozen at some point and then the Rogues killed him
So... He was left there to be a statue until his mind rots out of boredom and madness, and his memorey cracked and shattered.... All until he stops thinking
It's like Superman rage punch to the chest of Joker but in reverse...
Reverse flash
No, superman unfortunately could make the horrible choice and kill. Flash being a sadistic coward, couldn't kill. So choose slow torture. So humain...
And he'll only know to look at was Impulse. That comic end was chilling.
That's the same thing Wally did to Zoom when they first fought. He didn't display him like this, but he did put him in a glass container and he is on his knees with his hands upward like he was feeling himself lose momentum, and then freezing in they position.
Slightly different scenario- Zoom was warping time to speed, not using the speed force. Wally actually tried (and failed) to steal his speed to stop him, and Zoom was gradually breaking the time stream so windows in time kept opening up. So Wally stuffed his head into one of those windows, temporal feedback, Zoom locked in time in a kneeling position. Although he eventually just came out of it on his own but didn't bother to move because he didn't see the point. Some of Wally's villains are severely messed up.
@@BugzToon1 It’s always one end of the spectrum or another with the Flash family’s villains. Either they’re kookie specialists like the Rogues, who view it all as a game, or they’re complete psychos who are threats to the world at large. And unfortunately, the speedster villains are all on the dangerous end of the spectrum.
And those in the middle of the spectrum don’t last long in Central City. Either they can’t take the supreme guilt tripping skills of the Flashes, or they get run off by the Rogues for putting their game in danger.
"He screamed like a little bitch."
C'mon. Inertia deserved it.
Fortunately, Brainiac 5 was able to bring Bart back to life in the future. He also brought back Conner Kent, and together they helped three different Legions stop Superboy Prime.
It was hilarious how SP was afraid of Bart's return, so Impulse said "Boo!" when he reappeared to make fun of SP!
Heros Killing: ❌️
Heros Punishing Villians with Horror-Beyond-Our-Comprehension and Fates Worse Than Death: ✅️
If you saw Bleach (Mayuri vs Szayelapporo) Youd know how much worse than death that is
I remember that, yep.
Bro, szaye was so desperate to die after spending just a few years/seconds,it was legitimate scary.
Villain: JA! you can;t unalive me because of you stupid moral code
Hero: Then I will grant immortality like a statue while being alive
Villain: *realizes that death is a mercy freedon of pain*
Eventually, inertia stopped thinking.
Not even that, the museum goers and workers would provide just enough mental stimulation to keep him thinking until the Earth blows up.
"eventually, Inertia stopped thinking" *read this with Jojo's narrator Voice*
his Family did indeed meet the "Avengers"
Oh so we're not going to kill him, we'll do worse. Yeah that's not crossing the line, that's drawing a new one entirly. Imagine not being able to move for all of time staring! Staring only with your own thoughts forever and ever, not being able to speak, breath, sleep, eat, drink, itch yourself, move, not being able to scream, cry, yell for help. Being locked up in a room for the rest of your life is a better choice than going through what wally just did to him. That was truly evil of wally I'm not going to lie.
A Liveing Trophy, well played Flash, well played
How did he come up with that idea to keep him frozen in time? Man’s a mad man 😂
What's worse than death? An eternity getting punched in the gnads.
"I have no mouth, and I must scream" kind of energy
His mind canonically still moves at normal speed if I remember correctly
“But thanks to his supersonic speed, he was able to avoid getting sucked.” what 🥶
This punishment sounds like death with extra steps. If he can't move that means there is no brain activity or heartbeat left in his body.
He's still alive just not moving, he's in slowest of slow motion before Zoom went ahead and saved him
The Speedforce takes care of that. Keeps him alive, conscious, and thinking at normal speed, even as every physical process in his body is crawling along too slowly for it to be measured.
Oh no, his Mind's still going
The flash museum: a place stuck in time. Also known as Wally’s trophy room
People don’t realize that there are things worse than death. This is one of them. Imagine never being able to move again, to never be able to feed yourself, clothe yourself, even WIPE yourself…
In this case, he will forever stare at a wall, unable to look away… unable to even look around. He will just… look. One way. Forever.
No not scary, just boring and dumb. Andvhe could move but it was so slow. I think he gets himself freed.
Remember his though, he is aging in real time.
By the time his foot next hits the ground, his body will have rotten away.
Nice of Wally to let his family meet The Avengers
0:48 really well that was unexpected
0:04 "Hes more forgiving than god" yeah tha absolutely tracks good point kkkkkk.
I love Captain Colds' reaction. "Shut up, just shut up and let me think"
Bro basically just summarized the plot of an entire comic book into about the same amount of time that I imagine it would have taken to just read it, definitely never going to watch something like this again if I can lmao
I love how this story is the pure definition of:
"One thing every being must fear, is the rage of a kind heart."
This is basically the shadow realm but for flashes
Ngl, that made me like inertia
The devious smile was wicked
Wait so after many years, will there just be bones of him still standing in that possession? (sry but i haven’t read much about how this flash powers work)
No, because he isn't dying.
@@dushaunlewis7574 Oh ok, thanks 👍
Wally stole his speed and essentially made it so Inertia lives 1,000 years/sec, but is fully conscious and aware of his surroundings. And then Wally placed him in front of the statue of Bart, to show Inertia the hero he will never become. imagine it taking 100-150 years just to blink once. Inertia deserved it, too.
“He’s still conscious. He still sees and hears and thinks in real time. But he’s trapped for eternity in a frozen body forced to stare with eyes that take a hundred years to blink at the ghost of the man he could never be…”
@@bsb8705 "imagine it taking 100-150 years just to blink once"
Imagine how many years does it take for his eye to open up from the blink.
After this, zoom gives inertia some of his power than inertia kills weather wizard's son and than the rouges kills inertia
*Bro why you got too be so hard with the trolling ?*
0:43 Super Sonic Speed ?
0:47 Avengers ? 🤭
And here I thought Mayuri Kurotsuchi vs. Szayelaporro Granz is hardcore
This really shows how "superheroes don't kill, they won't cross that line" is bullshit.
Like, flash sentenced that boy to a living nightmare. We can't pretend that _killing him_ is more of a slippery slope.
Exactly
We need Wally as The Flash in the DCU
I can see KJ apa playing as Wally west
wally west but with a picture of archer
Week shriou, go simp back nauverse. Nobody edge lord flash, torturing a killing, with his police brutality.
@@lorenbrown7100 both are the ginger goats
@@Googleisstupid-sk3hm I didn't understand a single thing you said
Nevermind the content of the video, your commentary alone earned my like 😅
Oh no. We don't kill. Thats a line superheroes don't cross.
So we do things far worse than that by torturing our enemies eternally.
(Comic Logics)
Lol right? I wouldn’t wish this on my worse enemy’s it’s straight up cruel and evil
@@eem2wavy133 Facts like…
Ah the perfect ironic punishment for a speedster type here - still living but *NEVER MOVING AGAIN.*
I remember reading that issue. What Wally did to Inertia was straight up torture. Not saying isn't justifiable, but forcibly confining a person in their own body where their only free motion is breathing? That's torture.
0:46 "The Avengers" 🤨
this guy can explain a comic better than an English teacher explain a lot of thing in class FR
No lie, as soon as I saw the title in my notifications, i knew what it was gonna be.
oh hey i'm first cool!
your really not first
you're not first :D
Forget humiliation. Locked in syndrom has been described as one of the most horific experiences ever.
"Now I have the rule to not kill... That, however, doesn't preclude me inflicting fates worse then death."
Love how Wally West is either the most wholesome guy from the DCAU or some absolute cold mo fo.
Usually the "no killing" thing heroes like to do irritates me because it's foolish and horribly backfires the overwhelming majority of the time but this is one of the few instances where I think it's a good one.
Though it still has plenty of potential to backfire.
The no killing rule on DC usually makes sense. For example Superman doesn't kill because he simply doesn't need need to. He is so overwhelmingly powerful that he can stand to let a villain live and have that villain NEVER pose a threat.
Lex Luthor is a great example, even with access to Kyptonite, Superman has fought him so many times that he is now capable of one shotting any of Lex's power armors faster than the Kryptonite can start having an effect, while still holding back enough that the shockwave of his attack does not harm a single cell on Lex's body. Lex himself is more harmless than a fly to Superman, and only poses a problem when he gets other villains involved.
Batman doesn't kill because he feels that he has no self control, so if he killed he would literally became DC's Punisher. It's not a matter of morality, but a matter of mantaining his sanity.
And yet how many instances have villains broken out of their respective prisons and then proceeded to wreak havok until they're tossed in prison again?
Too many to count.
This is why it is stupid.
If Batman simply killed The Joker instead of playing their little game how many lives would have been saved?
If Superman simply obliterated his enemies like he very well could in most cases how many earthshaking or even cosmic level catastrophes could have been prevented?
While some entities may come back from the dead or survive due to BS hacks for most villains being vaporized by Superman or getting a bullet through the brain is permanent and they cannot hurt anyone anymore.
@@AeronHale Actually none. Superman has killed aliens already. For example, he killed Doomsday when he "died" in Death and Return of Superman. There was also a dangerous alien creature he killed that was that was hunting down people. Superman is only averse to killing rational beings, because he believe they can be saved with the right method. He will kill monsters and he will villains who prove to be really irredeemable. Such as when he killed a version of Zod whom he tried to stop, and who didn't really stop until he murdered half of the entire population of that Earth. So Superman straight up killed that Zod and his followers as they escaped to go murder people of yet another Earth.
Lex Luthor however is not irredeemable, rather his main issue is Superman's mere existence. Lex Luther has proven to be able to do good, however he is absolutely irreducible when it comes to dealing with Superman. He wants to best Superman at all costs, even at his own sacrifice. There is a story where this pretty much happens.
Where he is Given the powers of a God with the promise that he should forget Superman. Lex Luthor actually does a lot of good with those powers, but he simply cannot help himself and challenges Superman, as the fight proceeds, Superman begs Luthor, recognizing that Luthor is capable of being a force of good, but even though Lex slowly loses his power, that is now greater than Superman's, he doesn't stop, wishing to defeat Superman once and for all. Lex corners Superman and is ready to defeat him only to lose all of his powers and dies in space, much to Superman's dismay, who tried literally everything to convince Lex that this fight wasn't necessary and he had a greater potential than himself already. Lex preferred to die defeating Superman than become a savior loved by everyone
Dude The Joker on his own is responsible for hundreds of deaths that could have been prevented by Batman simply offing him.
Not to mention the other members of Batman's rogues gallery.
One example that comes to mind immediately is Jason Todd. Batman had many chances to take out The Joker but didn't and it bit him in the ass BADLY and has done so on other occasions too.
As for Doomsday that is a crappy example given that he IS a walking hack that becomes immune to whatever killed him last so he is one of the examples of enemies that cannot be put down in a permanent sense.
Lex Luthor is also a special case because he more or less as you said is only really out for Superman.
But Superman has had multiple opportunities to take out a lot of the big names among DC's villains.
The line from Batman “If you kill a killer, the number of killers stays the same.” only makes sense on a philosophical level but on a practical level it is fairly easily countered by considering that if they have killed once or multiple times already then they will likely do it again and that removing them from the equation is the least risky gamble and removes the potential of them doing anymore.
This is of course not considering instances of self defense or otherwise justified homicide. As those sorts of things do happen.
@@AeronHaleBatman never said that. It's a meme.