Don’t Flip Your Cannabis Plants Into Flower Until You Know About This
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- Опубліковано 22 лип 2024
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When you flip into flower, you're probably making this common mistake. If so, your harvest won't be as big as it could be.
To get the biggest yields possible, adjust your lights like this when you flip from veg into flower.
Scotty seems to be in sync with my grow, he always posts videos when I need them the most. Keep up the good work guys 👏
That's awesome!
Same,day 2.
I feel like Scotty may have a time machine. He would make a great Doc Brown from Back to the Future modern day remake. Doc Green? Green Crack to the Future
Been there as well 😂
My high ass was scared that he knew the stage of my grow 😂
You harvested last week and flipping to flower this week?
That tip about the lights towards end of vege is definitely worth giving a shot!
These videos are great for beginners. I'm only in grow 4 but I haven't learned anything new in at least 6 months and I watch stuff regularly. The first two grows I probably watched 100 hours of videos.
Same here I'm on my 4th indoor grow with autoflowers and haven't seen anything useful in a month or so and my only 2 problem I'm having is water and feeding
Always love learning and getting good insight from your videos. Thanks for everything you do for the community
I appreciate that!
Holy cow as simple as this is ive never heard this 2 years watching videos great video guys!!!
Great to hear!
14 minutes is not simple ...should only take no more than 2 mins to get to the point
I like this guy, he's interacted with me directly on my first comment on another vid about Coco. But surely he was around when we were all using HID lights and didn't have the luxury of simply dialling things down with a potentiometer.
The lighting now is so nice to the HIDs lighting I started with.
My take on this:
As the graph [6:00] shows, we are supposed to ramp up DLI during flower. The CEO of "Sanlight" also said that you want some headroom on your lights when going into flower so that you can increase ppfd after the stretch to somewhat end the stretching.
Most growers i see begin flowering with 100% on their lights. This leaves you with no headroom to further increase DLI. Scince we can't increase the hours of light per day during flower, we have to do it through light intensity. That means you should being flowering at about 80% light intensity so that you can ramp it up further after the first stretch (about 2-3 weeks into flower).
I hope this helps somebody! Happy Plants, Happy Mans!
Help me that the mistake I’ve been making then I shall try that thanks
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Good stuff! Just turned up the light too fast on my first home grow and burned them a bit. Now I have some great knowledge for the next grow.
Glad it helped.
Lights too close....
Man, it makes so much sense now, but I just didn’t think of that. Thanks Homie my flowers appreciate you.
Glad to help
Scotty is da' man! I accidentally landed on today's vid and was THRILLED at his explanation and clear explanations of how we manipulate indoor light conditions, taking cues from nature, but exploiting what plants' potential truly can be! Just like he's said before, if you can't explain what seem to be complicated topics and explain it simply to a friend, then you probably don't know enough about it yet. I have used gradual light increases/decreases in both stages, and I notice now that my flowers thicken up fuller (flowers connect more between nodes) and heavier -- now to the point they need support strings (I LST and super-crop so I don't have to limit my plant care due to scrog mobility issues) to hold up some of the more dominant branches! Total increase in yields! Guillermo in now legal to grow (6) in Ohio. PS: New topic idea: I plan to put some of my seeds (sprouting NOW) outside in a 50' hoop-house this growing season. I also use drip irrigation out there. What are some of the advantages and disadvantages you fine aficionados see in this idea? I've never seen anyone out here in YT land address this, and I know you have some wisdom to impart on this. Many thanks to your fine work. Great job, HiC for nice leads and post-comment "digestion" reactions to Scotty's awesome explanations! Thinking of using "super-charged" soil, maybe some grow dots with my drip irrigation, lots of worm casting brews, who knows?
Thank you for sharing, and the topic suggestion!
I would be worried about humidity problems in a hoop house…maybe you’re in a dry climate…🤷🏽♂️…then I see great advantages👍🏽
But air flow and PM would still need to be dealt with…Good Luck Growmie☘️
I raise my light height while having the light on full. When I flip. This allows the stretch to pull itself into its needed light intensity. Less work and does really well for me
I’m actually trying that method and I love it so far it’s allowing the plants to grow through the net and feel as if it’s outside… I try to keep it as close too Mother Nature as I can
Wonderful!
Love this channel.. and the amounts of knowledge that you have is very impressive. You love it to the bone! 💚
Ha, Scotty the Jack Nicholson of Cannabis Experts. Good job bro, I learn so much from you.
Johnny Knoxville.
Tom Arnold
As always great info. I am a new grower and I’m just getting to point where one pot per grow is a mini experiment new soil mixtures different top dressing or tea mixtures. This is all new to me but I will try it, next run is 36 hours of darkness before flipping to flower
Sounds great!
This is something I will try for the next transition to flower. Thanks.
Oh wow you gave me credits wow thank you very much.
like your idea will definitely give it a go on the next run.
Great theory, time to put it into practice
First off Scotty great channel man the DGC rocks it all the time I'm watching the shows driving you nuts anyway I've been growing since the '90s man I'm a legacy grower I've been busted two times I'm telling you everybody needs to listen to what Scotty's saying I got that DLI chart and I use it and I'm telling you man I was rocking 2- 400 HPSs like 3 ft off my plans and my DLI was like 13... I was still growing fat buds but I'm telling you man like I've doubled my DLI now so I can't wait to see how much bigger my buds are My plans are always in great shape I've got my environment on lock and I know my nutrition Thanks keep it up man
I like your show.
Very well, put on the lights.
Great video… just flipped to flower 2 weeks ago. I have always maintained the same light from Veg to flower and slowly increase, but I have never went 100%. I did download an app called Photone, but quickly found out I need to purchase a diffuser to move forward.
Just put a piece of paper on your phone to mimic a diffuser
@@civismesecret2795 I did read about that , but it seems depending on the paper type it changes the reading … I’m gonna try it anyway thanks
I run a growers choice ROI-e680 (led). It has a nice capacity to ramp up the light intensity. I’ve been messing with it myself over the years but this info is definitely helpful. I run like five different strains so I noticed that some strains also react differently to this whole thing. Some can handle it and some can’t I guess. Peace my brother! ☮️🙏🏼
Thanks for sharing!
I veg under 315 cmh and switch to 600 hps lights in flower, been killing it. Maybe lucky only 2 years into this wonderful hobby
so for someone whos never grow a plant and am new to this, is he saying that once you go from 18/6 hrs lights on to 12/12hrs you need to still give the plants the same intensity as you was in 18/6, and to do this you need to turn the settings up week by week on the light.
Always spitting some good knowledge Scotty, love the shows.
Can’t make changes in my perpetual 8’x12’ room.
Harvesting all at once is too much trim jail time for me. It’s easier to keep everything the same all the time. That’s why I like grow dots, keeps it simple.
Rock on!
Very good tips, none tell me to slowly encrees the light, just switch... But i already tinking about, now you confirm, tancks!
Good stuff guys! Always something to take in 🌱🌄💚
Thanks for watching!
higher DLI in veg is something i figured out about 5 years ago, it allows you to hit higher ppfd/dli in flower as well. if you have too low of DLI in veg, and then try to go higher DLI in flower, your plant will have delayed flowering, stretch past 3 weeks, and will take longer to finish, great vid.
Thanks for sharing!
This is a fact!
Wow recharge works great. Thanks Scotty. Looking forward to the grow dot. It has been getting harder to do all I was doing. Cancer sucks ass. Anyway, this will make my job easier and I never have to worry about burning my plants or keeping a long lengthy schedule for feeding. Seeds take forever it seems. As always patience is what I need to do. I think that has a lot to do with growing great cannabis. And patience is not easy when you’re curing it and it smells so good you just wanna dip into it. But I’m a good boy. I’m gonna wait maybe! Lol.
Hell Yeah. Let me know how the Grow Dots work out!
@@ScottyReal420 will do I am very excited.
This will be the first time I increase the light intensity when switching to bloom. I usually leave the same light, but I am going to try increasing this grow. I will expect bigger buds!
Man i love you're videos
Learn alot 💯
I appreciate that
I am definitely going to start transitioning my light at the end of veg
GREAT info in this show Scotty & Hi-C very well done got a better understanding in light intensity trying to figure out this new light I. Got for Christmas what leaves look like if your light is to much that it can take
Love all the content scotty...but still been waiting for my invite on the show 😊
I stand by 24 or 48 hours of darkness before the 12/12 cycle. Ive always done it and side by side tests in my dual flower rooms have proven to me in my tests faster flower set in the rooms that were deprived of light for 48 hours then flipped to 12/12. I do dial the lights down until bud set but definitely have whitnessed faster flower set using this method.
Big fan of all the Scotty content!!!
Thank You.
Same here perfect timing man thanks allot 😊
I use two lights a dimable hps with three settings. A 400 watt cob on the other side of my 5x5 tent. I only go to 2 3rd power on the hps in veg three weeks before flip i put the cob up which always runs full power. I still have the other third setting left to use once i flip. Then once or twice a week for two weeks i turn the hps to full power for 4 hrs at a time. After that i go full blast . Always does well for me.
scotty, I would like to learn from you one and maybe work together one day. I love the content. Keep pushing!
I just moved to led so you definitely saved me allot of problems going forward!!!! I’ve been growing with hps for 20 years so this is a huge change for me plus now I’ll be using grow dots and can’t wait to get rid of all these damn expensive nutrient bottles!!!! Next grow is with Humboldt seeds, Vipar XS4000 and Grow Dots this should be interesting!!! 😂😂😂
That's fine when you're running a single strain and taking all to harvest simultaneously. I have a half dozen stains going at any one time so I keep the lights as high as possible.
This was a good one!
My thoughts, I need to measure DLI. Also, thinking about MR-Puff's light tip and 36 hours total darkness end of veg. before switching to flower- causing increased flower hormone production? I always come across lots of good and interesting ideas from comments. Love Scotty's videos, they always generate great grow knowledge and also ideas from viewers.
Scotty man you are the best from Peoria,IL we watch and love you man 🫶🏾🦅💃🏽🕺🏽🕺💃💃🏽💃🕺🏽🕺
Gold. Thank you ❤️
I don't have any luck with new led lights, but going from MH to HPS makes for a very potent yield
Hey scotty whats the best temps to run your grow room during veg/flower using 1030w maxibright pro leds? Also LSTemps? Thanks from UK 🇬🇧🏴
Auto Flower growers should bare in mind, that if you run 18 hrs, Then a PPFD 0f 700 is the equivalent of around 1000on a 12 hr cycle. So save some energy and run your auto's at around 700. as they don't need any more than that, unless running CO2 in which case you can raise the DLi by 10 - 55 at the peak of your grow cycle.
PPFD APP is free and is quite accurate with most phones. But becomes very accurate even on a cheap phone, is you add the BT383 Bluetooth lux meter for 20 bucks. Which will work well on a selfy stick while you look at the PPFD and DLI reading on your phone screen.
Thanks for Sharing!
Hi Scott, I do check off some box’s you are talking about. Without going into crazy detail, the light is too much for a tiny tent like mine. It came from a bigger tent but it turned out to be junky. I will go back to my old light next time.
If you want something to ponder or expound upon try how a plant needs such drastic swings to grow successfully when in real time we don’t have 18 hrs of light and 6 hours of dark. Still it works out by energy manipulation. ?
TOP!!Thanks helps me a lot.Best regards
I think Scotty was using the numbers from his CO2 augmented grow. I don't think I would hit those numbers without CO2.
I do find that decreasing hours and increasing intensity in veg, quite interesting!
hay Scott really digging the short videos 📹 far-out mate
Much love Scotti. Next Monday we can grow fully legal 3 Plants. Will we have a Retailer in near future for the great Recharge.😊
Congrats, that's awesome!
Also can be done by raising your lights if you can dim or combination of both. Id start at 28inches from canopy, dropping down to 16inches. Back in the day before fancy meters 😂 top tip for veg every day grab your plants main stem half up the plant and give it a good shake like it just hit your woman, stimulates strong branch growth.
Never knew this😂 makes sense though. I like it
Wish we could get your products in south africa great stuff
Good info Scotty
I've been playing with the light schedule for years. It does work and also increases your total overall yeald by decreasing an hour per week until you reach 12/12 and increasing the light intensity.
It's just obvious...we just need to mimic nature as much as possible...using a raspberry pi makes it so easy but it could be achieved by hand! Plants usually switch to flowering mid August in the middle of summer
Nice, thanks for sharing!
@@ScottyReal420 you're welcome, a person can learn a thing or two in 47 years of growing.
I challenge myself at times to learn new and different concepts when growing cannabis.
Taken a step farther, you can decrease a long flowering sativa's flowering time by changing your light schedule down from 12/12 down to 10.5 on /13.5 off.
This usually will make 12+ week flowering sativa down to around 10 weeks.
@@Real_Dankdude I bought DJ Short's book 17yrs ago and in his book he said 12/12 is not the best schedule. He did not say more or less, he just said play around with it to find what works best for your genetics. I was doing both indoor and outdoor at that time and I noticed that my outdoor would be in full flower at 13+hrs light. Late August when the plants begin to flower they are getting 14hrs of sunlight. Harvest time around here is only 1-2 weeks after we hit 12hrs sunlight.
At that time I began paying with my timer like you mentioned you did. I ran clones at 20hrs under T5 HO's and when I moved them into my 5x5 tent w/1000w Hortilux HPS I ran a very short veg cycle at only 7-10days at 16hrs before dropping to 13hrs. Most of my flowering cycle would be at 12.5hrs until the last 10 days or so when I began dropping it 15min a day.
My yields went up with the extra 30min of light vs 12/12, but I recently saw a DJ Short interview and he said he preferred the shorter 10.5-11hr daylength that you mentioned for his long flowering equatorial sativas.
@@Real_Dankdudethank you for sharing this I’ve always been to worried about growing sativa because of the long flowing but this would help me greatly I love people like you who don’t bash other for being new or experienced just willing to spread good information and help others out but once again thank for this I shall give this a go 😊
I can’t believe I already knew this.
I would actually lower my Gavita LED from 100% and veg down to about 90% in flour because I ran to Gavita Lights LEDs and only one light and veg
So in flour for the two lights, I would cut the power back because my breakers kept on blowing so then I started to realize that if I ran my lights at 90% and every couple weeks, I brought them down to like 85% then 80% for the last week or two
I would bring it down to 75 or 77% for the last two weeks and then I noticed I started getting picture buds. I realized that they didn’t need that much light and it took me a few runs to do it like this so I wouldn’t blow my breakers, but that’s how I found out , and it’s really nice to hear somebody else saying the same thing to be honest
How many watts dis it take to blow ur breakers?
The sunlight in a greenhouse can burn the buds when the plant is too much defoliated but I will slowly remove my solar lights from over my plants when going into flowering also I find the plants adapt more to the heatwaves that there can be when I have them flowering in my greenhouses under the tropical sun.
Thank you Scotty420!
I believe the same goes for nutrients, and it does make absolute sense. You want to ramp them up from low to max feed in veg(for arguments sake lets say 1400ppm), and then when you flip the plants require much less nutrients (and light) so I lower my nutrients to around 1000ppm for the first 2-3 weeks of flower(and I remain on veg nutes for this period as well).
This is why the transition from veg to bloom is a great time to flush out any salt buildup.
i dont i have a cheep red and blue grow light and i can tell its way under powered but will have to do for now
Thanks for your video..hope the ppfd app accurate enough
I have been using this light hack for years now. Before I ever heard of DLI. I start dropping an hour a day till I reach 11/13. I always thought of it as mimicking nature (to a degree). I don't change my light strength till about the second week, and then slowly ramp up the par.
11/13 any benefits?
@DigitalMoneyIsSlavery it seems to induce flower a little stronger. Since our favorite plant flowers depending on nights hours, it seems to affirm the change of season. I heard about it years ago from an interview with Kevin Jodry. He was saying that is what the tulip farmers in Norway use it to set stronger flowering. Something like that. In my own garden, I can tell a slight increase in bud set. My current garden is finishing day 14 of flower today, and they already have strong bud set and pistel growth like you would expect to see around wk3. Again this is my garden regardless of genetics though.
@@stonersgarden thnx for reply. Someone in this comment section does 13.5 on and says they get an extra day flowering a week, just shows everyones got their own style.
@@YT_HATES_FREE_SPEECH your welcome. For clarification, I do 11 on /13 0ff
Recharge is a game changer too!
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I added extra lights just in flower, which seems to be giving me a much bigger yeald since I added them.
Do you turn lights down the last week or 2 or is it incrementally higher to 52 then cut. Darkness for how long or straight to cut for drying?
Love the real science after decades of bro science.
Your plant is growing toward the light everyday. So the ppfd should be increasing on its own as the plants get closer to the light to some extent
so i have a lamp that can only do a DLI of 18 and i want to do 3 plants. Is it enough? And how do i manage the change in intensity when going from veg into flower phase? It only has 275umol/s/m².
At the beginning of the video i was thinking about what puffandstuff does.
It only makes sense. In nature, the light doesn't decrease in one day. It takes several weeks.
I think I'm going to try this. Also, i wonder if that method has any effect on stretch?
so how do you ramp up light burn with HID other than the digital balast 250w 400w 600w overclock
True facts indeed….
I haven’t flowered with 12/12 in years. I run 13.5 on and my plants always flower I get almost an extra day every single week of flower. I also run 24/7 in veg….. running 12/12 is old school when we had magnetic ballast and flippers for dual rooms.
I just don't want the extra power usage on my bill 😂
I run 20/4 in veg and ppl say its not needed. What are the advantages and drawbacks of 13.5 on if you dont mind
So does that mean they dial back the total output of light a bit after week 7, accordingto the graph?
So besides lowering temps, are we dialing back light intensity those last couple weeks? Maybe from 100%-95%-90% at the end of flower (no CO²)
yes, you want to dial intensity and dli along with temps as your plant matures in the end.
I have lux on 22,000 on veg. On the day I flick to flower 🌺 I up the Lux 28,000 to 30,000. I relised anything below 10,000 I get a stretch leggy seedlings 🌱. Veg 12,000 to 22,000 max. Flower 28,000 to 36,000. Week 6 onwards into flower say day 42 to 45. I always up the light 💡 it takes it.
I have two nobs on my light. Veg and bud. In the past I have used both simultaneously and there was some weird growth going on. How would you handle this? Also my leaf tips are burnt from light I assume. What is the proper distance light to plant.
Thanks for inviting me over to the think tank Scott, I am a new member. I got grow dots and recharge and I intend to grow the next one with them. Hope to make you guys proud!
the height from the plants and which settings to run the light at should all be included in the lights instruction manual. it is a bit different for each light.
Thanks plasma!
Hey Scotty this might sound weird I’m new to this but do I ph recharge
So I dunno if I missed this but what's the calculation and how do u get the number
would that be basically the same as the info from the local weather, showing the sunrise and sunset will give you a daily rate and you could just make the increments fit your need based on that? i am talking about length of time for night and day
Hey. I just flip into 12 12 and jack the light up from 750 to 900 par first day flower
you can feed it as much light as you want but once the root ball is small it will not get any bigger. the key for me is focus on the foundation not the building be nice to the root and it will give lots of fruits
Over thinking it much! Have you done side by side tests too prove this has an impact?
Quick question auto flower 18/6 for the hole grow?
My solution for this is to keep the veg lights closer to compensate. The difference in distance results in less light when the plant first goes into flower then the light continually increases as it stretches upwards throughout flower. Total low effort solution FTW!
I am very interested in this video. Everyone would like to get the max out of their grow and anything me learn more, I feel is a plus. I was just wondering where did you get the information and the DLI chart?
growlightmeter.com/lighting-requirements-of-cannabis-over-the-full-grow-cycle/
this site has the charts and some good info
@ScottyReal420 thank you for that information. It was useful. This site is actually run by Photone. It's a light meter app. I've been using it for about 5 months now. I highly recommend it. It's not 100% correct, but it will get you very close and doesn't cost $800 like a photon meter. My plants have been growing well and are happier than a pig in poop.
Ya idk how he does this but he's always on time
Checkin in 💨👨🏽🌾✌🏽
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Do you have a video on setting up or different co2 ways to make it for gardens?
sorry we don't.
I think we all need to know the different options for setting up co2 ways for our gardens Scotty.We all want to have great results like the pros and gardens like you claim to have! I'm a huge fan of yours,and you explain things that we can understand. Thanks for what you do Scotty!
Lets go Scotty!
Hey scotty could you do a episode on starting clones indoor for outdoor. Its not a easy task and ive been at it a while and still cant dial it in too good. Thanks
Great suggestion!
Great beginner content.
I appreciate that!
sunlight is 60 dli on a sunny day average it out over june and july its about 50 dli but what i dont get is if the dli is dropping and the ppfd drops why do we still get such nice plants outside with low dli and ppfd cause in what august to september you dropped from 60 to 40 in september your now 30 so if someone could explain why we keep upping the light inside but mother nature does the opposite
It could be the color change in the spectrum goes further read in those months, just a guess though, good question
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Literally needed this video right now. I just got a 500W upgrade from 400W in my 4x4 and I want to maximize my upgrade. I’m sitting at ~30 DLI in my canopy on Week 3 and am aiming for at least 40 by Week 7. Only downside is this actually helped me understand my slow veg better. I was always content with 300-450 PPFD throughout veg but realized you need to get it up to 600-700 by the end to get them really humming. It makes a lot of sense, gonna try that on my next run!
Scotty, Equatorial Cultivars above 8000ft Altitude have adapted to Higher DLI and also Metamorph from Sativa Traits to Indica Traits according to the Strain Hunters! "Mango Iche" is what I remember them saying! Maybe that's why Afghani/Pakistani Cultivars are mostly Indica in Nature! 😉🤫😎👽
Nice!
I've seen several different types in the same himalayan valley from big bud looking plants in the bottom to indica types at 2500m or above.
@@junglie There are definitely Giants in the Mountains, especially when you were sent out of FOB/Camp Wright on the Afpak Boarder! 🤫
@@j.m.harris4202 I've got a picture of me holding an 18ft high ones trunk on my wall in the kulu valley.
What you know about the 10/14 schedule? Do I increase the ppfd ?
that is one I have heard of but do not have any experience with.
umm, If thats the case... Why does 24 hour light work for growing short bushy plants ?
I run 2 5x5 630watt leds I veg to 75 %and when I get a week off flower i add a 1000watt at 50%then go to 100%on the leds as I go to 12 12 then I go up with the 1000 watt superHPS every 2weeks
Yo Scotty, off-topic question here, but for seedlings after how many weeks is it good to start giving them veg nutrients? They're 2 weeks in, and I've only given them rapid start and flora bloom.
Two weeks is a great time to start them on the nutrients, they will be staring to grow rapidly and will need the nutrition.
High light levels and 11/13 light cycle works for me depending on strain
Always uses to veg with a 430w son t agro, then flower with 600 sodium.
If you want to be high tech give the plants a blast of far red for ten mins when the light turns off. It puts the plants to sleep quick and lets you flower on 14 hours light
Reducing time with the same amount of light seems legit, outside the same happens.
Maybe also there will be less or no stretching like with prompt flipping to 12/12.