BMW E90 Polyurethane Bushing Installation on the Front Control Arms (Poly Bushes)

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  • Опубліковано 27 вер 2024

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  • @Andreixl05
    @Andreixl05 3 роки тому +1

    You're doing a great job. Keep going.
    Next week I'll try to clean my dpf following your instructions and then the turbo.
    Greetings from romania

    • @StevenBTuner
      @StevenBTuner  3 роки тому

      Hi, thanks for the encouragement and greetings to Romania! All the best with the cleaning.

    • @MalaescuD
      @MalaescuD 3 роки тому

      Salut Andrei, ti-a reusit curatarea dpfului?
      Vreau sa fac si eu la un ford mondeo 2012 (varianta cu catalizator si dpf).
      Am cumparat solutiile si vreau sa o fac curand, din pacate nu am avut timp.
      O parere/sfat sunt binevenite.

    • @Andreixl05
      @Andreixl05 3 роки тому

      @@MalaescuD salut.
      Spre surprinderea mea chiar s-a curatat foarte bine. Era atat de infundat inainte ca nici nu isi mai facea regenerare.
      Trebuie sa ai rabdare. Cu cat o sa insisti mai mult, cu atat o sa se curete mai bine. Eu am stat cam 4 ore.
      Foarte important e ca in faza in care pui soda caustica, sa incalzesti apa bine. Eu prima data am pus rece si abia daca a iesit putina mizerie.
      Am facut putin mai concentrate soluțiile. De exemplu in loc de 1hcl la 3 litri de apa, am pus un litru 1hcl la 2.5apa.
      Ia-ti manusi lungi pana la cot, ochelari de protectie si o masca foarte buna(nu porcarii din astea chirurgicale)... Mirosu de acid clorhidric o sa fie foarte puternic.
      La sfarsit l-am clatit bine de tot cu apa si ca sa il usuc am folosit un pistol din ala de topeste vopseaua.
      Dupa aia l-am montat si am lasat masina pornita vreo 30 de minute fara sa merg cu ea, ca sa il usuce si mai bine.
      Cam atat... Eu sunt aici daca mai ai nevoie de ajutor :p. Te salut

    • @MalaescuD
      @MalaescuD 3 роки тому

      @@Andreixl05 ok, mersi mult!
      Apreciez raspunsul.
      Imi poti lasa fb sau whatsappul in caz ca mai am vreo intrebare? 😁

  • @pierreheck5637
    @pierreheck5637 8 місяців тому

    Excellent video! As all your other videos. Thank you for your high quality channel !

  • @vp5
    @vp5 3 роки тому

    Excellent video. Some extremely helpful and useful tips for us E90 owners

  • @noipowszystkim
    @noipowszystkim 3 роки тому +1

    when tightening the bolts, the car should have the suspension in the driving position, you should raise the hub

    • @StevenBTuner
      @StevenBTuner  3 роки тому +4

      Hi, thanks for watching! That's the correct procedure for the OEM BMW rubber bushing, but it doesn't apply to the polyurethane bushing as it rotates freely around the central steel bushing and is lubricated with the special silicon and PTFE grease that comes as part of the kit.

  • @kapilapatikiriachchige5169
    @kapilapatikiriachchige5169 2 роки тому

    Fantastic explanation. Entertaining video. I am going to Do My E60 when I have free days from work. :)

    • @StevenBTuner
      @StevenBTuner  2 роки тому +1

      Hi, I'd love to hear how it goes, and what you think of the change to the car!

  • @Himoutdoors
    @Himoutdoors 8 місяців тому

    I have that torque wrench! I'm sticking with rubber bushes but I get why you would swap it out for fast driving

    • @StevenBTuner
      @StevenBTuner  8 місяців тому

      :-) Another excellent possibility is the use of M3 style solid rubber bushings - that way you have the control and response, as well as the excellent NVH properties of rubber.

  • @davewallace9048
    @davewallace9048 2 роки тому

    Hi, loved the video!! I just installed M3 control arms on the front of my E90.. I think I may try removing the bushing that came with arm and replace it with black poly bushing!!

    • @StevenBTuner
      @StevenBTuner  2 роки тому

      Hi, great work! See how you go with the M3 solid rubber bushings - they are a lot better than the standard E90 type while keeping the NVH down. If you have some big brakes fitted (and really like to use them), then the black poly bushings will definitely be a noticeable improvement.

  • @stuungar3390
    @stuungar3390 Рік тому

    Great stuff, thanks 😊

  • @curioussand1339
    @curioussand1339 3 роки тому +1

    Some say the extra stiffness the poly-bushings provide will ultimately wear down the rest of the car faster, any thoughts on that?

    • @StevenBTuner
      @StevenBTuner  3 роки тому

      Hi, thanks for watching! With more vibration being transmitted to the car, there is probably an increased chance of shaking things loose a bit quicker if you drive on bad roads all the time.

    • @curioussand1339
      @curioussand1339 3 роки тому

      @@StevenBTuner Have you analyzed which bushings would have the most effect on firm handling, any other bushings that would make sense to change?
      My E61 525d LCI from 2007 with what corresponds to 223.000 miles could probably also benefit from some bushings upgrade. Do you experience any noticeable added vibration and noise?

    • @StevenBTuner
      @StevenBTuner  3 роки тому

      Hi, the best bushing upgrade for handling is to swap out the rear rubber sub-frame bushings for either solid alloy or polyurethane. The difference is night and day - what was once annoying mid corner over-steer is now a firmly planted rear end. I would do a video about it, but I've already done it on this car just before I started the channel, so it will have to wait until I get the next BMW :-) There is no question that there is more noise coming in from the gearbox and differential, but it is difficult to say whether that was due to the sub-frame change or the differential bushing change, as I did them at the same time. Nobody but me notices the extra noise, but I think it is pretty obvious when you go directly from driving another car. But it is also obvious how nice the steering feels too, so I don't mind!

  • @nemz7505
    @nemz7505 3 роки тому

    Great stuff, think the bolt and balljoint nuts are all one use only from NewTIS (before BMW killed it) or perhaps that's just the F series onwards which definitely are.

    • @StevenBTuner
      @StevenBTuner  3 роки тому

      Hi, thanks for watching! Quite right - BMW recommend that you always use new nuts and bolts on any suspension components.

  • @ben8d8over68
    @ben8d8over68 3 роки тому

    I love your videos mate, keep up the good work :)

  • @roholidays
    @roholidays 2 роки тому

    Thank you sir!

  • @marcosdarriba
    @marcosdarriba 2 роки тому

    Thanks 👍👍👍

  • @khalidacosta7133
    @khalidacosta7133 3 роки тому

    use a hacksaw instead of a dremel when clamping arm in a vice, will be quicker and easier!

    • @StevenBTuner
      @StevenBTuner  3 роки тому

      Hi, thanks for watching and for the great suggestion - I'll give it a try next time!

  • @justas6686
    @justas6686 3 роки тому +1

    Hello Steven, can you share your tools please?

    • @StevenBTuner
      @StevenBTuner  3 роки тому +1

      Hi, thanks for watching! The special tools used in this video can be found down in the video description.

  • @StevenBTuner
    @StevenBTuner  3 роки тому +1

    Who is ready to swap out their front control arm bushings to polyurethane?
    Here is a breakdown of the chapters in this video:
    0:00 BMW E90 Poly Bushings - Introduction
    2:15 BMW E90 Poly Bushings - Remove Front Control Arm From Car
    5:05 BMW E90 Poly Bushings - Remove Existing Poly Bushing From Control Arm
    7:42 BMW E90 Poly Bushings - Remove OEM BMW Rubber Bushings From Control Arm
    9:24 BMW E90 Poly Bushings - Remove Steel Sleeve From Control Arm
    10:46 BMW E90 Poly Bushings - Push In New Polyurethane Bushing
    12:11 BMW E90 Poly Bushings - Lubricate New Poly Bushing
    13:10 BMW E90 Poly Bushings - Inspect and Clean Up Ball Joint Mounting Surface
    13:44 BMW E90 Poly Bushings - Install Forward Front Control Arm

  • @wilsonbernard6gxfccokj339
    @wilsonbernard6gxfccokj339 2 роки тому +1

    So when doing poly bushings is it not nescesary to do the pre load on suspension before the final torque?

    • @StevenBTuner
      @StevenBTuner  2 роки тому +1

      Hi, the poly bushings slide around their shaft, so the final torque doesn't have to be done at ride-height.

    • @wilsonbernard6gxfccokj339
      @wilsonbernard6gxfccokj339 2 роки тому +1

      @@StevenBTuner ok thank you so much

  • @pedronogueira6897
    @pedronogueira6897 3 роки тому +2

    Great job! Tanks

  • @pierreheck5637
    @pierreheck5637 5 місяців тому

    Have you tried original M3 arms for the rear axle?

    • @StevenBTuner
      @StevenBTuner  5 місяців тому +1

      You can get some unintended consequences when you put M3 parts in to the rear axle setup. Because the M3 parts don't do the 'return to center' thing, it means that the rear spring rate ends up being slightly softer than stock - which may not be what you are after.

  • @DC-uo2uc
    @DC-uo2uc Рік тому

    Hi Steve, thanks for this video. I'm going to try this DIY soon. Question, are there any replacement for the ball joint end? Seems like the only way to replace is getting a whole new arm. Thanks in advance for your reply.

    • @StevenBTuner
      @StevenBTuner  Рік тому +1

      Be great to hear what you think of the end result! Unfortunately there is no way I know of to replace just the ball joint.

    • @automajstorijediy
      @automajstorijediy 10 місяців тому

      it is,control arm with removable ball joint@@StevenBTuner

  • @dj0100
    @dj0100 Рік тому

    Great video! This is a huge help for me. About to do this job but I am using monoball instead of poly. What do you mean by not having to be at ride height to do final tightening? Thanks!!

    • @StevenBTuner
      @StevenBTuner  Рік тому +1

      Hi, I'd love to hear how you like the monoball! The normal oil filled rubber bushes are designed to provide more resistance the further they deviate from the normal ride height, so you can't tighten them up until the car is off the stands and is only supported by its 4 wheels. If you use poly or monoball bushings then they don't have a center position that they have to be locked to.

    • @ericerps3298
      @ericerps3298 Рік тому

      @@StevenBTuner So I can torque while on jack stands, that's good! I am doing a track day next week with a bone stock m3 comp. I then plan on installing the monoballs, bilstein coilovers and camber plates next month. Hopefully I will be able to do a track day after to see the difference. Thanks again!!

    • @StevenBTuner
      @StevenBTuner  10 місяців тому

      @ericerps3298 That should be quite a difference!

  • @LiamMCarroll
    @LiamMCarroll 3 роки тому

    Could you please link the poly bushings you used?

    • @StevenBTuner
      @StevenBTuner  3 роки тому +1

      Hi, they are made by Powerflex - and are widely available.

    • @LiamMCarroll
      @LiamMCarroll 3 роки тому +1

      @@StevenBTuner appreciate it

  • @vp5
    @vp5 3 роки тому

    Any reason why you didn't use the powerflex black series bushes? That come in 2 halves

    • @StevenBTuner
      @StevenBTuner  3 роки тому

      Hi, at the time (5 yrs ago) I wasn't sure if the black series would be too harsh for the roads where I live. For this particular bushing, I don't think there is any problem using super hard polyurethane or even a rose-joint version now. The newer 2 part bushings are certainly a lot easier to install!

    • @vp5
      @vp5 3 роки тому

      @@StevenBTuner this video content was made 5 years ago?

    • @StevenBTuner
      @StevenBTuner  3 роки тому

      The vid is fairly recent, but I keep transferring the poly bushing from one arm to the next whenever the balljoint end wears out.

  • @underatedcars33
    @underatedcars33 Рік тому

    Where do you get these bushing to buy

    • @StevenBTuner
      @StevenBTuner  Рік тому

      Hi, I think there is a link to the manufacturer's website in the description.

    • @bamwa
      @bamwa 4 місяці тому

      @@StevenBTuner did you remove the link???? what brand bushings did you use? not seeing it

  • @nick66333
    @nick66333 9 місяців тому

    👍💯

  • @alividal9596
    @alividal9596 2 роки тому

    hi man What is the use of changing the bushing? if at the other end the ball joint is damaged?

    • @StevenBTuner
      @StevenBTuner  2 роки тому +1

      Hi, start with a brand new arm, or an almost new arm where you know the balljoint is in perfect condition.

  • @e60tube90
    @e60tube90 3 роки тому

    nice video ! haha nail polish

  • @user-vo8ij2jj4r
    @user-vo8ij2jj4r 2 роки тому

    Have you tried and compared M3 control arms? They fit plug and play and cost about 60€ if you buy them directly from TRW(OEM)
    The upper M3 control arm also fits perfectly and gives the e90 about 30' more negativ camber
    How often do you reuse the tension screws? I will install the M3 control arms in the next weeks, and will check how much plastic extention these screws have after the first tightening

    • @StevenBTuner
      @StevenBTuner  2 роки тому

      Hi, I think you are referring to the 'M3 style' control arms - and they don't sound like a bad 'half-way' upgrade as the solid rubber bushings are definitely an improvement over the stock hydraulic oil filled versions, and will be a bit better for NVH compared with the poly bushings too. However, the poly bushings have the advantage of being even stiffer as well as being transferable every time you put in new control arms. You can get up to 2.5 degrees negative camber with the stock setup by punching out the little locating pin at the top of the strut, so the extra camber isn't that big of a deal, but a little bit of extra front track is a good thing to have :-)

    • @user-vo8ij2jj4r
      @user-vo8ij2jj4r 2 роки тому +1

      @@StevenBTuner I was referring to the control arms that are used in the M3 (BMW parts number 31102283575 31102283576). Would one refer to those as M3 style? English is not my first language, so I'm a little unsure.
      The upper M3 control arms have some bearings instead of the rubber bushing.