Game Composer Hears TWIN PRINCES from DARK SOULS 3 for the First Time

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  • Опубліковано 4 лис 2023
  • It's been a long time since I did a video on Dark Souls music, so let's listen to Lothric, Younger Prince and Lorian, Elder Prince (aka Twin Princes) from the Dark Souls 3 OST. I'm always surprised by how Dark Souls music can be so tragic and sad for an action game.
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  • @DaviVasc
    @DaviVasc  7 місяців тому +83

    I mentioned Ludwig's Theme from Bloodborne briefly in this video and I just remembered that is actually one of my favorite videos that I've done! Have you seen it? -> ua-cam.com/video/4nQexcuDPAw/v-deo.html&pp=gAQBiAQB

    • @dxcSOUL
      @dxcSOUL 7 місяців тому

      This is also one of my favorite videos you've ever done. That and Lady Maria :)

    • @signa8
      @signa8 7 місяців тому

      I can't wait to see you play Dark Souls 3 and fight this boss in the distant future.

    • @veracc
      @veracc 7 місяців тому

      @@signa8 why cant play it?

    • @signa8
      @signa8 7 місяців тому

      @@veracc he's doing Mario RPG next

    • @therealludwigtheholyblade
      @therealludwigtheholyblade 7 місяців тому

      I have watched it once or twice, yes.

  • @dizzyhungry
    @dizzyhungry 7 місяців тому +425

    Twin Princes was def the music highlight of my DS3 journey, such a masterpiece.

    • @dorcusss3693
      @dorcusss3693 7 місяців тому +16

      Definitely a close second for me, if you count the DLC. Because holy shit, that Gael Bossfight music.

    • @WhenGoatsWentBaa
      @WhenGoatsWentBaa 7 місяців тому +11

      That's a tough one, there's so much good music in DS3, from this to Gael, to SoC and Abyss Watchers which is probably my favourite

    • @tiraedo-omozuwa3689
      @tiraedo-omozuwa3689 7 місяців тому +2

      Mine was the abyss watchers

    • @Dudewithnoface1
      @Dudewithnoface1 4 місяці тому

      Gael and Midir were both absolutely beautiful tracks! Twin Princes were my favorite for the main game by far though ​@@dorcusss3693

    • @shutityoudumb
      @shutityoudumb 4 місяці тому

      Also the only original boss in the game (I'm half kidding)

  • @trymytree3155
    @trymytree3155 7 місяців тому +256

    11:16 it's really interesting of you to say this, because if you die to this boss, one of them says: "This spot marks our grave."

    • @DaviVasc
      @DaviVasc  7 місяців тому +89

      Whoooa

    • @ghostyuki-kfpinquisitor1038
      @ghostyuki-kfpinquisitor1038 7 місяців тому +76

      "This spot marks our grave. But you may rest here, too, if you like." (From the younger prince)
      Until phase two of the fight, Lothric only talks. He's basically just overseeing your funeral like the many that have come before you. As his brother proceeds to most likely bury you.
      Might as well leave their item descriptions as well
      Lothric's sword - "Young Lothric was meant to be a champion, and was expected to wield this platinum sword, but some things will remain distant dreams forever."
      Lorian's sword - "Before Lorian embraced his brother's curse, he was a knight who single handedly slayed the demon prince, but the victory eternally scorched his sword with flame."
      Combined swords - "Sword forged from the reunion of the inseparable swords born from the souls of Lothric and Lorian, the twin princes. Their union is rooted in a curse, and perpetuated by grief."
      Fits the mood you were describing

    • @hellacash126
      @hellacash126 7 місяців тому +3

      I've watched many videos of this guy, he always make these dead on observations about any boss theme. Almost likes he reads ahead about the boss lore and then pretend like he figured it out listening to the soundtrack, and I think that's exactly what he does 😁

    • @cheetoh3149
      @cheetoh3149 6 місяців тому

      Quite obviously from watching this video xD@@hellacash126

    • @ChromaticFlare
      @ChromaticFlare 6 місяців тому +13

      @@hellacash126You DO realize that (good) boss songs are crafted SPECIFICALLY to represent that boss and their story, right? Composers write their songs based on the context of that story, using their music to help the player gain an emotional understand of the battle and what it represents.
      Anyone with a strong education in music theory can easily see what these kinds of songs are trying to convey. It just so happens that this guy has such an education.
      It is possible that he reads up about the boss first, true, but considering his education and experience in music theory and composition, I wouldn’t be surprised if all of this is genuine. In fact, I expect it to bex

  • @ltrttl
    @ltrttl 7 місяців тому +355

    “This spot marks our grave. But you may rest here too, if you’d like”
    Try Main Theme pls. One of the most remarkable main menu themes

    • @Dizzifying1
      @Dizzifying1 7 місяців тому +24

      That's because it was supposed to be the final boss theme music. Originally Pontiff was the final boss of the game and that was his theme. They scrapped the idea and utilized his theme for the main theme.

    • @ltrttl
      @ltrttl 7 місяців тому +3

      @@Dizzifying1 yes, I know. The data mined version is even better imo

    • @mohidsufyan8706
      @mohidsufyan8706 7 місяців тому +8

      @@ltrttlThere's a datamined version?! Where can I find it?

    • @glockenspiel604
      @glockenspiel604 7 місяців тому +2

      ​@mohidsufyan8706 all the leaked tracks for ds3 are the channel:Unreleased Game Music. The pontiff one your asking about is called Old King of the Eclipse

    • @freesoup9673
      @freesoup9673 5 місяців тому +1

      @@Dizzifying1which is why I love the convergence mod for giving respect to that original idea.

  • @uncleol
    @uncleol 7 місяців тому +153

    I was literally just thinking "Davi should react to Twin princes OST" finally that dream is here!

  • @YellowZ04
    @YellowZ04 7 місяців тому +438

    These two princes are actually the descendants of Gwyn. The younger prince was the last prince of Gwyn's bloodline, and he was meant to be the saver of the world, but it turned out he wasn't. I don't know the exact lore of them, but you fight with the elder prince, who is mute, so there aren't any vocals in the first phase. The vocals start singing when the younger prince joins the fight. They are actually waiting for their deaths in their room. My personal favorite theme song from DS3.

    • @GriffinTwo
      @GriffinTwo 7 місяців тому +2

      Hello again!

    • @dxcSOUL
      @dxcSOUL 7 місяців тому +37

      I wish the game spent more time developing these characters. They give adequate time, but I just wanted more. Their story was so tragic and they were the main catalysts for why you, as a main character start your own journey.

    • @justiceg7872
      @justiceg7872 7 місяців тому +33

      It was always my understanding that they shared the burden of being a past lord of cinder. Thus, in a previous iteration, the princes had "saved" the world (or at least the elder brother had). However, as it always has, the flames begins to dwindle, and the past lords are called to oncemore to sacrifice themselves to embolden the next great hero and allow for the flame to be kindled again; but the lords forsake their call they wish to end the cycle or at least remove themselves frome it (except Ludleth who returns of his own accord). Which is why the player, as well as others who were connected to the lords, are summoned (Hawkwood for the abyss watchers, Anri and Horace for Aldrich, Siegward for Yorm and you for the princes). In that vain, Davi is completely accurate their fate is sealed, and they will be assaulted until they are inevitably felled by an undying "hero" whose motivation may or may not truly align with the flame, at least. P.S. wrote this on my phone, please excuse typos.😂 Please refer to Mothernothingness for correct lore on princes.

    • @aisuyukii
      @aisuyukii 7 місяців тому +1

      @@justiceg7872what do you mean when you say that the certain people are ‘connected’ to the lords, Anri and Horace to Aldrich. Could you elaborate? Because I would love to know and I’ve never heard that before. I could see the Siegward and Yhorm connection obviously because they were friends. But the other connections confuse me

    • @mothernothingness1358
      @mothernothingness1358 7 місяців тому +10

      @@justiceg7872 if I remember correctly, princes have never been the lords of cinder, they were supposed to do it in this cicle, but bc of pontiff (or whatever scholar, i'm not sure) and his teachings they said "nah, we don't wanna burn for eternity, screw this". Vaati's videos could tell you more

  • @jlol2701
    @jlol2701 7 місяців тому +213

    You should absolutely do Pontiff Sulyvahn from DS3 as well

    • @Korinthian
      @Korinthian 7 місяців тому +14

      Oh God I’ve never wanted a request answered more. This would be amazing.

    • @JosephJorgenson-cr6nt
      @JosephJorgenson-cr6nt 7 місяців тому

      Or god devouring serpent

  • @greenhydra10
    @greenhydra10 7 місяців тому +103

    The "maddening, enraged sounds" aren't in the track, 'cause I make those sounds when Lorian starts teleporting.

    • @MissyAmy88
      @MissyAmy88 6 місяців тому +12

      😂 Fun fact Lorian can’t teleport. It is Lothric who is teleporting his brother during the whole fight. First from above you and later in the fight while sitting on Lorians shoulders. Notice the Holy golden colour of the teleport is the same color of Lothrics holy magic homing attack.

    • @canadiangopnik7007
      @canadiangopnik7007 6 місяців тому +8

      @@MissyAmy88 Lorian is not performing the action of teleporting, however he is undergoing the process of teleportation, it could then be said that he is teleporting, english is fun right? It also speaks to their bond, that they're so in sync that Lorian knows exactly where Lothric is gonna put him and attacks accordingly, and that it's so seamless that it could be forgiven if one assumed it was Lorian doing the teleporting

    • @MissyAmy88
      @MissyAmy88 6 місяців тому +2

      @@canadiangopnik7007 Yes, their souls have come togheter as one so they are a unit :)

  • @ravynbunny7193
    @ravynbunny7193 7 місяців тому +64

    Darkeater Midir is another absolute hidden gem from the ds3 soundtrack that you absolutely should listen to!

  • @marcoasierrabernal4893
    @marcoasierrabernal4893 7 місяців тому +43

    Dude it always amazes me how you come up with the exact lore of the characters by just listening to the song.

    • @NetherStray
      @NetherStray 7 місяців тому +5

      The way I see it, the art team and the soundtrack never lie to you. Characters and writers do.

  • @lordzalthos3037
    @lordzalthos3037 7 місяців тому +73

    Something interesting about this theme is that in phase 1, you fight against only Lorian, who is mute. Similarly, there are no vocals in the music until phase 2, when Lothric, who can speak and does, joins.

    • @manreaper1238
      @manreaper1238 7 місяців тому

      More like a coincidence

    • @aymeraldds9126
      @aymeraldds9126 7 місяців тому +20

      ​@@manreaper1238this is probably no coincidence

    • @manreaper1238
      @manreaper1238 7 місяців тому

      @@aymeraldds9126 This is not the only song in ds where the choir appears in the second part

    • @lecarbonator
      @lecarbonator 7 місяців тому +4

      @@manreaper1238now I‘m curious, what ds3 ost has no vocals in phase 1 and vocals in phase 2? I thought that‘d be an easy answer, but I can‘t think of one off the top of my head
      gundyr, vordt, sage, deacons, AW, wolnir, ODK, greatwood, oceiros, champ gundyr, pontiff, aldrich, yhorm, wyvern, NK, dancer, DSA, SoC , Friede, Gravetender, Demon Prince, Midir, halflight and gael all have it. Twinces is the exception.

    • @manreaper1238
      @manreaper1238 7 місяців тому

      @@lecarbonator To be honest, when I wrote this I had Gael in mind. But now I listened again and realized that I was mistaken

  • @deerdance101
    @deerdance101 7 місяців тому +61

    Twin Princes is probably my favorite fight/song from DS3. There's nothing particularly hard or flashy about it, but the rhythm of the attacks feels like a dance of sorts once you get the timing down. The choir in the second phase gives me chills every time.

    • @hydramarinee
      @hydramarinee 7 місяців тому +7

      That's because there are almost no delayed attacks. Everything is very well signalled and very easy to dodge. That gives the encounter a very nice dancey feeling and I had the same thought years ago. Now Nameless King on the other hand :)

    • @gusskipner9809
      @gusskipner9809 6 місяців тому

      Yeah one of my favorites bosses!! Always looked forward to it in NG+

    • @elijahwilensky3318
      @elijahwilensky3318 2 місяці тому

      For me, theyre probably the hardest mandatory boss in the base game. I can never get the timing of his attacks right

  • @specialnewb9821
    @specialnewb9821 6 місяців тому +9

    "This spot marks our grave, but you may rest here too, if you like."
    -Lothric, Younger Prince
    Yuka Kitamura just amazing orchestral talent. Though I think Alex Roe (who has put out a mini album with Kitamura!!) did a remix that made it even better.

  • @AugustoXRock
    @AugustoXRock 7 місяців тому +62

    It's so cool that you use the words "resignation" for describing how the theme is playing out. In the lore, the current prince doesn't believe anymore in the linking of the fire, so him resigning from his duty of linker of the fire is very fitting.
    Also, the reason why we maybe were left hanging is because at this point is because maybe the prince's ideals might yet come to fruition through the player.

  • @A_d_e_k
    @A_d_e_k 7 місяців тому +17

    You interpreted the song beautifully, especially the part about the requiem.
    Lorian and Lothric were supposed to save the world and continue the cycles, but Lothric decided to not do so and watch the world die. He even says, in case you are defeated "this spot, marks our grave."

    • @GreatRaijin
      @GreatRaijin 3 місяці тому

      Linking the fire is not "saving the world," the flame has been prolonged for too long, and the world is suffering because of it, which is why you see all the old kingdoms destroyed and converging in the last area of the game, we're not sure what happens once the flame goes out, but we do know it will come back again to continue the cycle of light and dark

  • @fakeplasticgamers9850
    @fakeplasticgamers9850 7 місяців тому +7

    The way the music builds during the phase transition cutscene and explodes when second phase starts... easily one of the most memorable fights of DS3 for me. It usually gets overlooked because DS3 is so stacked with great bosses, but Twin Princess deserves some recognition.

  • @yuomovaeh3028
    @yuomovaeh3028 7 місяців тому +15

    It's amazing how you can "reverse-engineer" Kitamura's songs so well and tell something about the characters lore even without playing the game!
    Definitely one of top 3 tracks in DS 3 for me.

  • @legiondbd4566
    @legiondbd4566 7 місяців тому +11

    Quick amazing details about this music, there is no voice in the first part because the first prince is mute, the voices comes in the moment the other prince came into the battle.

    • @Bobio
      @Bobio 7 місяців тому

      Oh shit.

  • @AlexHyena-dv4mb
    @AlexHyena-dv4mb 7 місяців тому +12

    always amazing how much you interpret from the music. the sense of tragedy, finally, the feeling of a requiem are all perfect summaries for the twin princes' story as the last hopes of the royal family only to end up as sacrifices to the ashen warrior who sought their cinders.
    The twin princes will always be ranked amongst my favourite fights and soundtracks.

  • @flyintiger7659
    @flyintiger7659 7 місяців тому +6

    I see the final part of 'grandeur' as a way to emphasize the end of the princes' suffering, which may finally put them to rest, and also through their deaths a hope for a better future is born. Amazing breakdown of the soundtrack by the way

  • @CelestialDonQui
    @CelestialDonQui 7 місяців тому +7

    The unresolved ending is interesting. Here's my interpretation...
    You pointed out how the tension chord resolving to the home chord gives a sense of resignation to a tragic fate, with the tense chord conveying tragedy and the home chord giving the sense of inevitability and resignation to fate. Well, the fight ends with the player killing the twin princes and thus denying them the tragic fate that they had accepted, hence the home chord not coming at the very end. The fate of the princes changed due to the player, but their tragedy remains nonetheless.
    Thanks for another great souls music analysis Davi!

  • @Bobio
    @Bobio 7 місяців тому +7

    Fantastic video. I couldn't help laughing at Davi's sad face when he said "She left it unresolved!" after 15:50😂 You can tell this guy is as invested in the music as we are in the moment when playing.

    • @AlyssMa7rin
      @AlyssMa7rin 7 місяців тому +1

      It’s unresolved because the Player is the resolution. The world hangs in the balance and it will all fall to that final choice

  • @elissahunt
    @elissahunt 7 місяців тому +10

    This track is already awesome, but your analysis helps me appreciate it even more. Great job.

  • @mamalinhager
    @mamalinhager 7 місяців тому +5

    It does sound like a funeral mass... all so very interesting... thank you!

  • @villelepoaho4105
    @villelepoaho4105 7 місяців тому +2

    The transition into the second phase is beyond incredible. Honestly one of the best musical pieces I've ever heard in a video game, ever.

  • @Luco129
    @Luco129 7 місяців тому +1

    Lovely breakdown! Spot on with your recognition of the themes of fate and funerals. The change from double meter to triple when the fight goes from you vs lothric to you vs lothric and lorian, all thee fates intertwined. You made me thing of this wonderful fight on a whole new level!

  • @jesusvera7941
    @jesusvera7941 7 місяців тому +1

    Young prince lothric, named the same as the land, because he was supposed to be the last lord of cinder ever, his power and might would have made him an inmortal legend, but he was born ill and weak, always surrounded by nurses, from that life he learned all kinds of healing spells.
    Lorian, older twin, a prince born with blessings, he was always skilled and strong, he killed the last of the demon royalty alone, the fire of said demons imbued his greatsword with a never ending flame, he returned to his home loaded with triumps and exploits, but then he decided to share the curse with his brother, they were so close that it is said their souls merged, but while Lothric got a little better Lorian lost his voice and his legs became numb, when the fire started to fade and the lords of cinder were resurrected by the bell to re-link the fire, Lothic and Lorian refused the call and went to the highest chamber of the castle to watch the fire fade from far, until... the bell also resurrected a vile and foul being, a god killer called the ashen one, when the lords refuse their thrones the ashen one will deliver the corresponding fresh ashes to their seats, because it is ash that seeks embers, and thus the lyrics of the song:
    _oh visitor of the castle_
    _you who came seeking embers_
    _you who came hunting_
    _im afraid_
    _im afraid oh visitor of the castle_

  • @kunibertrandolf1886
    @kunibertrandolf1886 7 місяців тому +4

    Yaay, time for DS lore again!
    The twin brothers are most likely the children of Gwynevere, the godess(or atleast her illusion) waiting for you in DS1 behind Ornstein and Smough.
    Both brothers are the earliest children of Oceiros, the by now consumed king.
    He was obsessed with creating "the perfect child" to eternally link the flame. To be more precise, he wanted to create a child with both the powers of dragons and gods alike. While Gwynevere was already of holy decend, Oceiros started researching the draconic, eventually coming by the experiments of Seath the scaleless and his crystal magic.
    While his first son, prince Lorian was "normal", besides of being very large and a most skilled fighter, he did not have the god's blood of his mother.
    But then prince Lothric was born. Albeit cursed with an initial sickness that made him frail and unable to even walk, he was revered as the perfect child by the royal house.
    Besides of holding the holy blood of his mother, he also has pale sking and clawed hands, implying that he was the result of Oceiros' early research of how to infuse infants with the draconic.
    Lothric was meant to one day take his thrown as a lord of cinder to bind the flame and was raised as such.
    His sickness grew stronger with time and might have killed him eventually, would it not have been for his loving brother to "share" his curse. The noble knight and demon slayer Lorian became crippled by helping his brother bear the curse, turning him mute, weakening him subtancially and paralyzing his lower body completely.
    Yet he still stayed by his brothers side and they continued to grow up together, with them now being supposed to assume the throne and link the fire together.
    But one of his teachers was sceptical of the linking of the flame, questioning if forcing the world to keep the age of fire going to be the right choice. (A question asked from DS1 to 3 repeatedly).
    These ideas, combined with the suffering Lothric and his brother had to live by just to be "perfect tools" to link the fire led to them both refusing the throne and fleeing to the castle we find them in.
    As they state, they planned to watch the flame die out from a distance, before the age of dark would naturally occur.
    After they fled, their father became mad with the desire to still create a perfect heir.
    Beside of the generally intoxicating and maddening teachings of Seath, the added mania from "being king" and "having to continue the age of fire with royal blood" led him into more and more vile and brutal testings to create dragon kin. Many of the dragon amalgamations we can fight, like Gundyr, are most likely failed test subjects that where meant to be infused with draconic power but failed to contain it.
    While Oceiros neglected his kingdom and sacrificed more and more people to his research, he turned himself more and more draconic, may it be intentional or a side effect.
    And while the kingdom fell into disarray and was invaded by the boreal Valley, Oceiros still held on to having to create a perfect child.
    In a last ditch effort, Ocelot was created, a child that only partly made it into the game.
    Ocelot was the final child of Oceiros and yet another failure. Even with all his sacrifice, Oceiros, by now a malformed, blind half dragon, he could not create an heir to link the fire.
    This is when we find him. In game, he cradles nothing, but the game files tell us that he would have had a newborn child in his arm for the first stage of the fight, believeing him to be his magnum opus. He manically asks the child to show everyone its power, to come out of hiding and show the world that Oceiros finally succeeded to create a dragonborn heir and cleanse the stain of Lothric's desertation.
    But as the fight continues and the child does nothing... because it is a child, he ultimately smashes him onto the ground, killing Ocelot. Before we kill him, he understands that all his efforts where to no avail and that the child he created, is not what he tried to achieve. He failed, plunged his kingdom into destruction and failed to achieve his life's duty.
    It is the same in game, without the child, but more metaphorical, as he only stops to cradle nothing and goes full apeshit on you, abondoning the idea of "having the child".
    All in all, Lothric COULD be seen as kind of a tragic antagonist, as he DID refuse to assume his duty, but lived a life of torment just to appease the royal interest in heirs for the flame to consume.
    The question if it was worth for the sake of humanity or if Lothric is right and the fire should die out for the natural age of dark is for the player to choose.

  • @zosyn6432
    @zosyn6432 7 місяців тому +1

    This spot marks our grave.. but you may rest here too, if you’d like

  • @rathosalpha
    @rathosalpha Місяць тому

    "This place marks are grave, but you may rest here to if you like"
    Prince lothric

  • @luigivercotti6410
    @luigivercotti6410 7 місяців тому +8

    Yeah, more than any other track in the ost, this one screams agony to me, specially in the 2nd phase, with the voices starting and stopping and slowing down almost as though they're in so much pain they can't even sing anymore... whoo, goosebumps
    Also, the unresolved ending is probably so that the ost track feel closer to the in-game loop that just goes back to the choir entrance at that point

  • @ForeverDansky
    @ForeverDansky 7 місяців тому +1

    Love your videos mate, and congrats on reaching 100K! Well deserved! 🥳

  • @benmccoy1766
    @benmccoy1766 7 місяців тому +17

    I always love to hear Dark Souls music analysis, and the Twin Princes are one of my favorite bosses! I would love to hear your thoughts on some Armored Core 6 themes if you think there would be enough to say for a video!

    • @DaviVasc
      @DaviVasc  7 місяців тому +3

      Would you suggest any specific Armored Core 6 track?

    • @shinyhydreigon7257
      @shinyhydreigon7257 7 місяців тому +4

      @@DaviVasc Rusted Pride

    • @TactfulOgre
      @TactfulOgre 7 місяців тому +4

      @@DaviVasc "Contact With You" would be the perfect AC6 track to check out first!

    • @spanishgame
      @spanishgame 7 місяців тому +2

      Contact With You is an absolute must yeah. I like some of the others but Contact With You is the highlight of the AC6 soundtrack.

    • @zisenye3419
      @zisenye3419 7 місяців тому +2

      @@DaviVasc The man who past the torch. One of the final boss music in Armored core.

  • @eddieozil21
    @eddieozil21 7 місяців тому

    i’ve been waiting for this review for a long time. thank you.

  • @canadiangopnik7007
    @canadiangopnik7007 7 місяців тому +2

    one of my favourite, tracks, fights, and stories in all of soulsborne, it doesn't get nearly as much love as it should

  • @zinglociabatta3205
    @zinglociabatta3205 7 місяців тому

    I was waiting so much for this one! Love your videos!!

  • @avforizs
    @avforizs 7 місяців тому

    What a great analysis of this track! The way you went into detail and explained the different parts and interpretation of the music was very good. This is truly an intense song and beautifully done. The way this piece is done brings out the emotions of listeners. Amazing track! 😊
    Thank you for sharing your interpretation. 🙂
    Congratulations on reaching 100K! 🎉

  • @xtremeLo
    @xtremeLo 7 місяців тому

    This perspective of funerals is blowing my mind. After so many years, souls are still being deciphered and revealing the details of the state of the art these games are. Awesome insight!
    I'm now watching all the rest. I'll keep looking for more of these.

  • @gabrieltroconis250
    @gabrieltroconis250 7 місяців тому +1

    I haven't heard this song in so long and now I'm missing it even more than when it was taken off Spotify 😭😭

  • @bestaatroxeuw
    @bestaatroxeuw 7 місяців тому +3

    finally, this is one of my favorites

  • @5391andrew
    @5391andrew 7 місяців тому +1

    Davi, muito bom ver você com 100k , parabéns ❤🎉 continue com esse incrível trabalho de destrinchar emoções nas musicas

  • @qxjr9597
    @qxjr9597 7 місяців тому +1

    I love your videos and how you analyze and pull apart music from especially souls games I would love to see you do a video on remnant 2 music specifically the red prince and the faelin kings those are my favorite from the game

  • @falloutghoul1
    @falloutghoul1 6 місяців тому

    Davi, your insight into these music compositions is always so interesting to hear.
    The funeral aspect makes total sense from a lore perspective.

  • @kaiser9598
    @kaiser9598 Місяць тому

    I love these breakdowns. They're so interesting and I also just like listening to the music once more!

  • @WaffleRaven
    @WaffleRaven 7 місяців тому +1

    One of my all time favourite Fromsoft tracks. Its so sad and inevitable. Like you said some inevitable fate. Its beautiful and glorious in a tragic way.

  • @LadyAriana.
    @LadyAriana. 7 місяців тому

    I love your videos, shows how significant music can be.

  • @josoares6284
    @josoares6284 7 місяців тому +1

    Your review about the feeling of this song is perfect, you nailed it. The Twin Princes' lore really is melancholic, tragic, and depressing.

  • @AliasEliahus
    @AliasEliahus 7 місяців тому +2

    God i can't wait for you to get to gael's theme , also very impressed at how accurately you can describe the story without context, Just goes to show how a nuanced handling of music can add so much to a story.
    as a brief side note i don't think what you said about the violin portraying a specific character isn't inaccurate here as part of where the hopelessness is coming from is that these characters are both afflicted by a curse that "binds them" they are effectively two halves of a single character in that regard.
    would be stoked to see you fight these guys some day.

  • @kirbystart9738
    @kirbystart9738 7 місяців тому +3

    Every time dark souls music surprises me even more. Next one should be slave knigh Gael, that's one of most epic OST I've heard in a videogame

    • @t0q14s9
      @t0q14s9 7 місяців тому

      Unfortunately I believe he already listened to it In A livestream so I doubt he'll make A video on it

  • @bastienchalvin5242
    @bastienchalvin5242 7 місяців тому

    4am, preparing to go to work, see a new analysis of Dark Souls music by Davi.
    What a good way to start a day !

  • @DarkHellDog
    @DarkHellDog 7 місяців тому +1

    One of my favorite bosses in the Soulsborne-franchise. Such an amazing experience.

  • @elmanuv9787
    @elmanuv9787 2 місяці тому

    I really enjoy your reaction, great energy from you, keep going!!!! Greets from Costa Rica!

  • @grassblock7668
    @grassblock7668 7 місяців тому

    Amazing stuff, I've been binge watching these reactions since I found out about them, it's incredible to see you figure out the story solely with the music. Here's some tracks I suggest you check out:
    Oceiros (DS3)
    Nashandra (DS2)
    Burnt Ivory King (DS2)

  • @96WackoXJacko96
    @96WackoXJacko96 7 місяців тому +6

    If I were to think of the reason for the song not being resolved, it could have to do with the Princes role as Lords of Cinder. Having the job to link the first flame but then deciding to instead watch it fade. That is until you the Ashen One come and defeat them. I think the end of the song could be referencing either at the princes inaction, or it could represent how after you beat them you're left with the question of "should I actually link the flame, or should I follow in the steps of the princes and just watch it fade?"
    Or it could just be so they can loop the song if you taking a while to beat them lmao

    • @t0q14s9
      @t0q14s9 7 місяців тому

      There is also the thing that the twin princes are the last lord of cinder and Soul of cinder comes right after them so you choose your ending right after

    • @gunnibalsmith3849
      @gunnibalsmith3849 7 місяців тому

      To me this final unresolved part felt somewhat like the tolling of the bell - just a repeated, sad sound that simply fades into silence. Feels fitting for a requiem.

  • @scinder.
    @scinder. 7 місяців тому +2

    I've always thought that the transition into phase two for the princes always sounded almost exactly like the transition we hear with Lady Maria of the Astral Clocktower in Bloodborne

    • @dyroth
      @dyroth 7 місяців тому +1

      Yuka loves doing that transition, it’s the exact same chord progression, awesome for main characters like this

  • @Avg_FarronGreatsword_Enjoyer
    @Avg_FarronGreatsword_Enjoyer 7 місяців тому +3

    I just had an epiphany.
    I think that the continuous insistance on the resolution has a meaning, in fact two:
    If we look from the perspective of the princes, the inevitable "resolution" is their ultimate sacrifice in Firelinking, which they can't stop, and they know. Their rebellion was bound to fail from the moment it started.
    "If we instead look in the perspective of the player character and, by extention, us, this continuous resolution I think represents the continuous cycle of Firelinking (the resolution) that doesn't go anywhere.
    I think the unresolved final means this: in this desparate world not even a perfect resolution can bring end to the eternal cycle it is trapped in.

  • @SwitchFeathers
    @SwitchFeathers 7 місяців тому +2

    I don't know what's more impressive: the Dark Souls composers being able to so accurately communicate the lore of their stories through music alone, or Davi's ability to basically deconstruct that same lore purely from the music alone.
    Gonna go ahead and say both are equally impressive.

  • @fallenarchami5439
    @fallenarchami5439 7 місяців тому

    Always get excited for a soulsborne Davi upload

  • @Forastero011
    @Forastero011 2 місяці тому

    I often like to listen to this song whenever I feel overwhelmed with grief over my brother’s death. It speaks to my sorrow and anger.

  • @manreaper1238
    @manreaper1238 7 місяців тому +1

    you've finally reached the best song in the game
    btw I like how you correctly understand the essence of the boss from his music.

  • @Cardboard_Box_Zombie
    @Cardboard_Box_Zombie Місяць тому

    Great analysis! Thanks for sharing!

  • @beabaldock236
    @beabaldock236 7 місяців тому +1

    Wow this is awesome . David explaoing the soul music .The background and dark side. David is so like Dan in his mannerisms.

  • @rhydondaddy
    @rhydondaddy 2 місяці тому +1

    No vocals until second phase, since Lorian is mute... only when his brother joins in do the vocals join

  • @DreyfusLagoon
    @DreyfusLagoon 5 місяців тому +1

    This is my favorite fight in all of souls and I think the music plays a big part in it. Probably my favorite OST they’ve ever done, especially in the second phase it’s so good.

  • @edward9674
    @edward9674 7 місяців тому

    Gz on 100k!

  • @hellcorpses
    @hellcorpses 6 місяців тому

    Love your analyic bro , subscribed

  • @phase34
    @phase34 7 місяців тому +1

    I'm not the one who requested it, but I want to thank you for this, and all the other soulsborne video. I have goosebumps every time from both the music and your analysis. "Their fate is already decided, they are already dead." I'd like to see more videos about souls bosses for example Pontiff Sulyvahn, Sister Friede and Darkeater Midir. It's also a very late congratulation for beating Bloodborne. :)

  • @imacop4275
    @imacop4275 7 місяців тому

    I’m so glad you’ve done twin princes!! As crazy as it might sound with all the crazy pieces in ds3 you’ve heard, twin princes actually takes the cake for me for the best track in the game. I feel like it gets slept on a bit. 😂

  • @perryunicorn1538
    @perryunicorn1538 7 місяців тому +1

    Those boys are my fav bosses in dark souls 3…and god the fight hurt…the poor boys. Their story makes me cry.

    • @mynameudste
      @mynameudste 7 місяців тому +2

      yeah idk about many other boss fights that are this much of a kick to the teeth once you learn their story. (plus they're stylish, wearing your bro as a scarf is in)

    • @perryunicorn1538
      @perryunicorn1538 7 місяців тому +1

      @@mynameudste from software loves to make brothers with sad back stories that make you cry

  • @pancakecookies50
    @pancakecookies50 7 місяців тому

    "This spot marks our grave. But you may rest here too, if you like."

  • @spamielentertainment
    @spamielentertainment 7 місяців тому +1

    Does anyone else feel like at 15:37 it can lead directly into Plin Plin Plon?

  • @derechtewolfi
    @derechtewolfi 7 місяців тому

    1. Great video as always :]
    2. I believe she didnt add the resolution at the end to loop it better? Because if you listen to it ingame the last chord is the one before it starts from the beginning of phase 2. So probably it's just because of that to have a smooth loop and from my own experiences phase 2 can take quite a bit to hear it loop atleast once haha

  • @ChasFilmz
    @ChasFilmz 7 місяців тому

    Dark Souls 3 is a masterpiece, and your videos always help me appreciate it on another level

  • @localfriendlycloud7720
    @localfriendlycloud7720 7 місяців тому

    this spot, markes our grave.....you may rest here too if you like

  • @atomlight5568
    @atomlight5568 7 місяців тому

    Hello, I've seen your video listening to touhou music and your analysis flabbergasted me haha, I've never seen anyone analyse music your way, but I'm shocked I didn't find flip arfage from ar tonelico on your channel..

  • @tanyuwei1995
    @tanyuwei1995 Місяць тому

    Always amazed at how accurately he can describe the bosses just based on music alone

  • @dumbo1950
    @dumbo1950 7 місяців тому +1

    The song to me feels like matoi sakuraba cuz usually his songs are very lit and he likes using the harpsichord it's used everywhere in ds1 and in specific songs in ds3 like nameless king

  • @drkazel8783
    @drkazel8783 3 місяці тому

    I like how they use the home cord as a symbole of rezignition and then they are teasing it in a maner that it become the first note of the chorus that follow and in the end of the track it completely disapear (as does there hope and interest for the life and the flame)

  • @arthalos
    @arthalos 7 місяців тому

    Happy to see you listen to more DS3 ost !

  • @debraloane3585
    @debraloane3585 6 місяців тому

    I'm amazed at how you see the picture by just listening to the music

  • @nightingalepvp4932
    @nightingalepvp4932 7 місяців тому

    I've always had such high appreciation for FromSoft tracks. But after watching a few of these videos where actual professionals react to them and break them down and explain them, that appreciation is like tenfold now. You realize then that each track has a story to tell and emotions to express, and isn't just put together on a whim. Can't imagine how much time and effort goes into creating these. Amazing stuff, we're truly spoiled.

  • @matiasluukkanen7718
    @matiasluukkanen7718 7 місяців тому +2

    God-Devouring Serpent from Elden Ring would be interesting option to react to.

  • @JW-zz3eu
    @JW-zz3eu 7 місяців тому +2

    Great analysis Davi! Please do DS3 main menu theme next. One of the best menu themes!

  • @latiaos11
    @latiaos11 7 місяців тому

    I think the fact that it was left unresolved at the end, but the resolving was very present along the track is the Princes willingness to finally die and rest, but it's absence at the end is bc the Lords of Cinder can't rest and are brought back to their senses bc of the course, so they are deprived of their final rest

  • @Jeekoppi
    @Jeekoppi 7 місяців тому +4

    Finally. Been waiting for this so long!

    • @DaviVasc
      @DaviVasc  7 місяців тому

      Hope you enjoy it!

    • @samdam1618
      @samdam1618 7 місяців тому +2

      I've seen that you've requested this like a hundred times😂

  • @hydration4333
    @hydration4333 7 місяців тому

    Another excellent analysis, the prince's tragic fate is their death which is fated and they wait in their room for it so the connection to a tragic fate and requiem is perfect!!

  • @joseluismijangos3133
    @joseluismijangos3133 7 місяців тому +2

    The background is they were waiting for the ashen one who would rob their souls only for his own purpose. They won’t let him take it, so they fight for their own existence. Of course they were killed and their souls were used to selfish purposes. That’s why this is sad. They were rejecting their own destiny, and at last that destiny reached them. There’s nothing they can do for that.

  • @hassainemoussa1186
    @hassainemoussa1186 7 місяців тому

    Finally the twins prince many thanks 🔥🔥🔥

  • @Red_N_Bleu
    @Red_N_Bleu 7 місяців тому

    Heya, I just stumbled onto your channel with the help of someone very special in my life and I wanted to see if you could react to some of their favorite music from League of Legends. Specifically the login themes of Mordekaiser, Jhin, and Pyke. Now one of those would be awesome since they all provide new people with identities that are fully unique to each character and there are not two themes that sound the same. Defiantly worth a look in my biased opinion and they all are captivating.
    Best of luck reacting.

  • @DurpyKraken
    @DurpyKraken 7 місяців тому +2

    Great analysis! I would suggest to look into some lies of p music. The boss themes as well as the records 😃

  • @subject_of_ymir
    @subject_of_ymir 5 місяців тому

    This theme, this boss fight always makes me very sad.
    Also including the lore of these twin brothers.

  • @DanS044
    @DanS044 7 місяців тому +1

    I love being able to interpret meaning from these pieces. Bits placed there intentionally to inspire certain ideas in the player, whether they realise it or not. And also coming to the wrong conclusions, and questioning why this could be.
    Whether intentionally, or just as an artistic choice. The sign may end unresolved because whilst the “end” of the song will never organically be reached by a player, since the track loops, and wouldn’t fade into silence anyway at that moment when it would end anyway- it might come back to the significance as to the reason the song emphasises resignation and tragedy.
    Briefly touching on the story of the game, the ultimate fate of the world is in the player’s hands. And whilst the Twin Princes who have an idea of how they’d like the world to play out, they’ve also resigned themselves from their duties as well as playing an active part in the fate of the world. Thus when they inevitably fall, the fate of the world comes back from the bleak hopelessness that is suggested in the themes of the song and the Twin Princes’ philosophy.
    The harder to find, true ending of the game requires the player to not follow their duties, the same duty that was demanded of the Princes. If there was no alternate path, and the world was doomed to entropy like the Twin Princes thought, perhaps to prove them right, their song would end in a fitting melancholy way.

    • @DanS044
      @DanS044 7 місяців тому +1

      This is what souls music does to me.

  • @yaboyreege7158
    @yaboyreege7158 7 місяців тому

    I love the lore behind the twin princes and their characters are so cool the music is incredible and the fight is a lot of fun. Dragonslayer Armour is really where it’s at tho. What an ost that is

  • @hellcorpses
    @hellcorpses 6 місяців тому

    11:00 about this funeral music i think thats right, because if the player died lothric will say '' you may rest here to if you like''

  • @Dorggoth
    @Dorggoth 7 місяців тому

    Pinche rolón alv, fue una de las pocas, si no, la que más me llamó la atención durante un combate en mi primera vuelta en DS3, sobretodo por ese violín, fue maravilloso...

  • @maia_ii2381
    @maia_ii2381 5 місяців тому +1

    Your english is very clear. I can understand you very well when you're talking. I love this content, you have a new follower in me ❤

    • @DaviVasc
      @DaviVasc  5 місяців тому

      Welcome aboard!

  • @kingxbuu
    @kingxbuu 7 місяців тому +1

    This is one of my favorite and imo most underrated tracks in Fromsoft history (same goes for the boss fight!)

  • @zeleros71324
    @zeleros71324 7 місяців тому +1

    idk if youve heard it yet or not cause i didnt see a video on it, but if you havent heard it yet, you should definitely react to all phases of the "Scaramouche, the Prodigal" boss fight from genshin. its currently my favourite piece in genshin's OST

  • @AJ-eh5kn
    @AJ-eh5kn 7 місяців тому

    Thank you!! My favorite from DK3

  • @zacthesecretweapon9931
    @zacthesecretweapon9931 7 місяців тому +2

    If you are open to suggestion.
    - Darkeater Midir
    - Slave knight Gael
    Both of them are from Dark souls 3 and both of them have great OST.