True, but With some guide lines. Don't buy fake parts. If you like the BBS RS look, but can't afford it, buy somthing similar for a price you can afford. But never a fake. That's technically illigal, and portraits a bad image for you.
That Guy you missed the key words... make it WORK and look GOOD. he’s not saying form over function, he’s saying find a median between the two at your budget.
I agree, also like to add if it looks good to you as an individual person and you’re not trying to look good by doing things to style you’re whip just for acceptance of others that’s cool too I guess if it makes you happy, I for one could care less what others think, I got some great 1 piece converted 3 piece wheels but this upcoming summer I’m gonna rock staggered corvette C4 wheels which are possibly the most played out wheel in the last decade, but I really don’t care cuz I like the look of them, and at the end of the day that is all that matters to me.
It all boils down to "Cheap ain't good and good ain't cheap." People want the recognition without making the sacrifice, and they undercut the true proprietors and creators of the industry because "it's their money" and expect the same reaction and performance as the ORIGINAL high quality product. But to each his own, get it how you live.
i think reps are ok as long as they are trying to improve on the original design in some way, it could be cheaper, could come in more sizes and colours, could improve on the look, could just be an easier to obtain version of a rare wheel. its ok to look at something and say "i could do it better"
We have all been there before, putting out $1000 maybe $1500 per wheel, without tires, thinking, I could have got a set of knock-offs and two weeks in Bali living like a king for the price of this damn set of wheels...
Honestly, I understand the appeal. The cost of real wheels is seriously high, one wheel is more than a full set of reps. That said, if you can afford it you should be running real wheels to help support the companies that do the R&D that move the industry forward. They're not just the "original design", they're also the people coming up with the technology for production and the techniques for testing, all of which are critical for safety and quality in the aftermarket wheel community. So many reps are just terrible low quality and people buy them because they're cheap. At the end of the day, buying real wheels is the right thing to do for the community and for yourself. A good rule of thumb is to simply never buy any wheel that's not from a reputable brand and that isn't JWL tested, VIA certified, and TUV certified. This ensures that they're at the very least safe to use on the road. There's a LOT of wheels on the market that aren't road-worthy, in my opinion. Then again, there's a lot of cars which are so cambered out that they aren't road-worthy either. If you can't buy something real, at least buy something safe. Don't put yourself, your family, and other drivers at risk by putting shoddily manufactured wheels on your car.
Nope. That's not how companies work. I should know, I'm a Product Manager in the tech industry, so these types of things are literally something I think about every day at work. Companies are incentivized by profits, and profits can be increased by either increasing revenue while maintaining the same cost or by reducing costs. Since companies that don't make real wheels don't have to spend on R&D for creating new production and test technology, nor do they spend on R&D for their wheel designs, they really just have the cost of their bill of materials + equipment (amortized) + production labor + marketing. This is a really viable business model in industries which don't have strong intellectual property protections, or if you can use crossing national borders to protect yourself from liability. After all, if you spend all the money you would have had to spend on R&D on marketing you can end up with massive revenues at minimal costs == big profits. The problem is, there's no incentive to change. Businesses are driven by customer demand, so if companies making fake wheels and reps get lots of business because of good marketing and low cost, they'll just keep doing what works. There is no incentive for them to invest in R&D at high cost to move the entire industry forward when their pricing doesn't account for it and they know that real wheel companies will do it anyway. The reputational value of making real wheels is the only thing that these companies seek, and it's far more possible to wiggle into the cracks than it is to invest real dollars into R&D. Can a company go from making reps to making real wheels? Sure. Has it ever happened? Not to my knowledge. In the video they make the defining difference between reps vs real wheels as being based on design. I say it's more than that, it's also the actual production and testing technology which companies like BBS and Rays actually developed in-house and then publicized to help increase the safety and strength of wheels in the entire market. I'm sorry, but XXR and Rota are not going to be creating an entirely new method of wheel production or an entirely new testing safety standard anytime soon, it's just not profitable for them, no matter how many of their wheels you buy.
I think it’s ok for people to buy what they want and put whatever they want on their car. My problem is when someone says it’s just as good but cheaper. Or the ones who expect to get props on a setup that isn’t real amongst enthusiasts who value authenticity.
It's okay to do whatever you want as long as you're not endangering other people. That's the problem I have with fake wheels (not necessarily reps) is that they're not safe. Many reps are just as bad. As long as what you buy is JWL tested and TUV/VIA certified, I don't care if it's a rep or real, I'm not judging. But I won't buy anything myself that isn't real.
Brandell Warren I actually met some dudes that work for vossen. My unc has a rim shop in Tampa and they come in to check out the shop and sell rims to him for him to sell. They both pulled up in grayish brown Audi’s with vossen tags on😂
Great video! Im not a big fan of replicas to be honest. BUT i remember Ken Block and his team once said “we like to use replica wheels because if the wheel happen to hit something, it will just break apart and it wont damage any major components (eg suspension, axle, etc)”. I guess somehow theres room for those.
I don't specifically dislike reps or fakes as long as they're jwl via tested. I just prefer real wheels because I like multi-piece wheels and the reason I that I like the idea that if I don't like the current specs, I'm a lip and a barrel away from new specs, or in my case-- I welded lip/barrel lol.
Instead of buying fake wheels, buy OEM wheels from a different model of the make of your car. Just an example if you have a MB look into used Mono block or multi piece Brabus wheels or amg. If you dig deep enough you can sometimes find good deals on said wheels and you won’t have to jeopardize quality as long as you find a good set that is. Just a thought 💭
Ive had real wheels in the past as in CCW. VOLK. SSR. And have 2 sets of Enkei RPF1s. I feel like it depends on the vehicle on what you put on there. Don’t go throw XXR wheels on a nice car. Then again don’t put nice forged on a dumpster. That’s just me tho. Lots of people get “real” wheels for bragging rights but it is kinda annoying hearing all the hate lol. To each his own. Respect the choice of others.
Thing is. It shouldn't matter if I'm rocking reps or "real" wheels. Don't like the Varrstoen, XXR, or ESR wheels I'm rolling on? Buy me the set of wheels you want. Then you can talk all the trash you want. Til then. My car. My money. My choice. PS-Y all still havent made a video about Varrstoen....
I don't care about the style so much the quality control. Does giving you real wheels give you a good feel? Yeah I'll be honest I own SSR GTV02s so call me biased. I was looking into a lot of wheels before I even decided to make the purchase. I even looked into Rotas/XXRs/etc, but I wanted to be sure that I was safe. People say that real wheels bend and crack, but they have a higher tolerance. They've been tested thoroughly, it's something I drive everyday. People that say "Well stock wheels are low pressure cast". While that's true the car company designed it very specifically with one particular offset to the design. Meanwhile you can go buy any offset/design of reps and they probably didn't test it as well. My personal opinion, but real wheels just look that much better. It just gives it that nice edge to the car. I'm sure someones cracked volks before but they still have a much higher tolerance. I've seen too many images of people crashing cause their rep wheel gave out. It's dangerous for everyone in the car and the people driving around you. If someone ever crashed into me because of a rep wheel I would be pissed.
Justin Nguyen I ran rep wheels all my life. Never had a crack or bend. Even with the horrible roads around my area. Ive seen real wheels break too. Any wheel will fail under the right circumstances.
I have a friend who totaled his car twice on ESRs. In both cases his car would've been a hell of lot better off had he not had reps. I got SSR 3-piece wheels for $650. 6 fucking 50. There is no excuse for buying reps
Wtf. Did not know Fitment Industries were an hour away from me until they made WI snow reference and I looked it up lol. Definitely stopping by this spring to decide on my new set up!
Yes if you don’t have BC racing coilovers or SSR wheels you get bash about it.... that’s the car community in Florida but I’m sure is like that every were...
Fellow Floridian here, my subie was on BC BR and Cosmis wheels lel. to some degree though you're absolutely right. Why are people here so crazy about SSR..?
Roger Toledo I know! I meant locally at least, what Richard said is true. At least around these parts, SSR seems to be the brand most pushed by the scene, where the rest fall to the back burner, no matter how well made. I genuinely don't remember the last time I saw a set of TE37s on anything here
Too be honest, i just bought my first set of wheels for replica prices with superb quality and beautiful looks. These wheels are from am Aston Martin v8 vantage and they amazing!!!! I can't tell you how much I love them, not only for their looks but for the fact that I know I'm getting great quality at a rep price. I say all this to say stop following the "in-crowd" follow you're own path and you'll be surprised what you can come across. Oem wheels ftw
I've had real and fake wheels and I can attest to the difference in quality and strength. Real wheels are worth what they cost for their build quality and safety.
A few years back before I had my construction company I didn’t have much and I had this Chrysler 300 and I bought replica srt rims and I was in a tight spot and was forced to use my car for work and I had to put heavy tools in the car like a small skaffold and other things I remember I flew one time with the tools on the back on some railroad tracks on a hill really hard and the rims held up really good no cracking or anything i staryed with them rims for years with no problems and they were some 20’s now I’m blessed to be able to get more but don’t forget where I came from cause them rims were good too me I still have the car but sold the rims to my boy and they are still good and running kept the car just finished fixing it to the way I wanted it back then and I just keep it in the garage run it from time to time cause that 300 has sentimental value to me :)
I still have my gen 5 2001 Prelude 5spd with 2inch lower in the front and 1.75 in in the back with 17 inch Racing Hart C5's . Anyone else love the H22 as much as I do?
I rock super cheap vision cross. Dont care if they're fake or rep or what (common mesh pattern). They fit, they're sturdy, they're lighter than stock and look amazing on my car. Anything more expensive to serve exactly the same purpose is for bragging rights only.
Wheels depend on the vehicle in my opinion. A daily shouldnt have 4000 dollar wheels. Atleast coming from someone who lives in the northeast. Pot holes and railroad tracks fucked up from snow plows and salt. Most people want to customize their car to be different. Doesn't mean you need expensive track wheels.
Yea but we go winter mode come fall, and shelve the nice wheels until spring. So we can run a nice wheel around here , you just gotta keep an eye on the season.
Replica wheels $400-$700 new. The Work Meister S2R’s I found on OfferUp that were powder coated purple and have the lip vinyl stickers from factory, $240 with burner tires. Best $240 I’ve spent this decade.
A video on Buddy Club wheels would be cool to see. I bought my set Brand new Mag Blue 15x8 + 32 for around $600 shipped to my door and they are real wheels. It's a interesting company i don't see much info on. Typically I see most cars running the older P1 design, but not many with the newer p1 design like myself and there isn't much history on them for me to go off of. Their Mag Blue also does seem to be much brighter than other Mag Blue's I see such as the Volk Te37's.
"Let us know what you think in the comments. It's probably already on fire down there." 😂😂😂😂 Yes sir, you have lit a fire with THIS one!! So many opinions, some valid and some not. Before I really got into the "behind the scenes" of wheels, I always thought they were like the automotive industry. They "borrow" ideas from each other. Whoever puts it out first, gets the credit. Now I know there is MORE to it than that. But some wheels get bad reputations when it's the owners fault. For example, someone mentioned do a video on Vossen. I've heard nothing but bad things about them over the years. From being a cast wheel to bad customer service. But their marketing campaigns are FIYA!!! Now the problem with their cast wheel or ANY other cast wheel is that when the owner run a stretched tire, or any tire below a 35 series tire, you run the risk of that wheel being damaged on messed up streets!! Not too many wheels will hold up at 40 plus miles per hour and hit a pothole with 25 series tires!! And you blame the wheel!! I think that's where some of Vossen's "bad rep" came from. "Real" wheels are not that much better either. Because you pay TOP dollar for two or three piece wheels, and ride them everyday, you run the risk of the wheel or all four being or getting lose. I think a two or three piece wheel should be on a REAL show car. Not to be driven everyday. Especially a three piece wheel. Just my two cents, carry on.. 😄😄
MHT is a USA company but have been in the game for a long time & make tons of wheels for other TOP brands, there’s also Lowenhart, Riken, ARE, HRE, OZ, Manaray, Maya/TrafficStar, Lorinser, Carlsson, Speedline, & plenty more that I’m forgetting
The first set of wheels i put on my subie were a secondhand set of Rota Grid R's. The original owner of the wheels politely failed to mention he'd cracked one of them, and in my excitement to have my first set of aftermarket wheels i totally missed the little hairline. The tire debeaded on me a few days later on the way to work. Needless to say, i was pretty unhappy. While i don't run around bashing Rota for this (i don't know what kind of driving the person before me did or what those wheels went through prior to my purchase.) It has made me wary of buying other Rota products simply for the sake of the fact that they *were* cracked. the idea moreso that it CAN happen, not that it WILL. I feel that if you buy them new, you're probably not likely to run into the same issue i did.
well since konig is a supporter of the scene i say go for it. some of their designs are reps but they been in the game long enough and should be respected
A real wheel is any wheel I like that fits my bolt pattern. I take the emblems off anyway. And put on my own custom one. But if it's not a full blow show car having real wheels. Has no benefits. You don't get more BJ's because your wheels are real.
Nascar doesnt have "Fake wheels"you dumbass they have steel racing wheels. And unless youre car is running above 800hp I would stop with the Nascar comparisons.
My dream wheels are 3pc Leon Hardiritt Ordens with a step lip in polished chrome and center face in graphite grey with gold hardware. But they are sooooo rare in 5x108 and expensive...😅
Well, you get what you pay for. A company’s reputation is number one on my list. For example Radi8 wheels are relatively new and look very proper, but I would be hesitant on purchasing a set because of that reason of reputation.
Ohh, and my fake winter splits were 450 bucks and are tough as nails under any and all driving conditions, only real downfall I see with them are that they are pretty damn heavy
In my opinion the difference between real and fake would be durability if they are identical in every other way then it's a replica but a fake would have say casting flaws internally that would cause it to fail or break or be weaker for some reason
It’s funny how many people are defending fake or cheap wheels saying there’s no difference. Personally I’m not gonna risk having a wheel break going around a tight corner at 100km/h in my Audi S4 B8.5. The car is worth $37,000 NZD so it would be pointless to cheap out on some wheels and potentially wreck the whole car (any myself!) because the wheel snapped mid corner and sent me into a ditch. I bought some mint condition second hand Advan RS2’s. Yes they’re second hand but I checked them over very thoroughly and they’re absolutely mint condition, not a single scratch. They cost me $1650 NZD but would normally retail for $3500 NZD.
Cory kempland over here with the modern Mopar’s a lot of guys run those Viper reps, some companies offer lifetime warranty. Those would be the ones I’d run if I did. But I don’t like looking like everyone else lol
SO the obvious question is: If you, as a retailer, know that there are wheels out there that are unsafe due to the way they are made (e.g. cast replicas of forged wheels), do you refuse to sell those wheels? In other words, can WE the consumers trust YOU to help us avoid crap wheels?
A lot of that is based off of how people drive with their wheels on! However we also would not sell wheels from a company who has a bad reputation either!
Another vote for Varrstoen video I had a set of the BBS LM copies and wow the lips are poor quality. Previous owner ran them for 8 months before selling me the car and the lips were already corroding. I am now on TE37 (third set). My current set were made in 1997. You get what you pay for. Run OEM wheels until you can afford a quality set. My two cents.
Yo I swear to god, I saw those SAME EXACT WHEELS in the picture on a bagged 370z, same color and everything, the only different is the wheel on the z was flipped
I don't like fake wheels they destroy the company's reputation that made the original one but replicas with the branding of a new company is good until they start making unique designs of their own
Real wheels are great. But I do chuckle a little when a 99 Civic pulls into the meet with over $3000 in wheels. Kinda like your 99 year old grandmother getting a boob job. No disrespect tho. Lol
Marcos Rodriguez he's doing it right , The more embarrassing things is when someone's buys a 50k gtr and then puts rota grids or Japan racing wheels on it 😂even though they can afford te37s
except civics can be build up pretty damn hard. also, you're going to shit on the civic regardless. they could have nice wheels or replicas: you'd shit on it anyways because "HURR RICE DURR." you are the car community's cancer
Was wondering if you could give me a quick review of my wheels. Advan model T5 17". I just bought them used with bends and cracks had them fixed and powder coated near perfect. 2k invested. I know its high but Ive wanted them forever. I have loved these wheels since I was a kid but I dont know much about them. Even though there dated do you think they still look good? Quality? How much did I over pay? There on my is300. Would post a pic but wont let me
How can you talk about "Real" Wheels and not mention *CCW* *SSR* or *BBS* !? They are 3 of the best Wheel companies in business today! And while we're on the topic... I've never seen you give any recognition to *BARRAMUNDI* who is basically the Japanese version of CCW, but IMO they have better options & definitely have Original designs! They deserve a review on your channel. I ran a set of Barramundi Snook's on my 99' GC8 Type RA & ended up selling them when I bought my Evo 8 bcuz of the PCD change.
Also remember that there are only a limited number of 'original' designs out there, before eventually every wheel is going to look like another wheel. We need these 'rep' companies coming in preventing the monopoly of the large wheel manufacturers from driving the price of wheels through the roof. It's like the music industry and all there legal issues. There are only 12 notes in a scale (7 white, 5 black) and only a limited combination of those notes. So eventually stuff is going to sound similar. Same thing with wheels. All wheels must be round (unless your Chinese, Triangle tyres!), and only a certain number of things can be done within that circle to contact the rim to the hub. Certain niche companies have tried to think out side the box (or cylinder?), like Ronal, but they are not exactly 'popular'. Most people want a light 5,6 or 7 spoke wheel. Only so much originality before everything just starts looking the same.
In my opinion a Fake wheel is a wheel that is an exact copy or close to the same design of an original being sold as the actual if its the original brand, mainly a “knock off” a replica is an identical wheel made to “replicate” an original designe but of corse sod under a different brand and a different style model name. Like a single piece made to look like an original 2 or 3 piece. For example OE replicas, that look identical, might be offered in different finishes or even larger diameter.
i think japan racing wheels not a bad choice for a cheap way to get bbs style wheels for older bmws. bbs sometimes are more expensive than the car they go on and than i think that japan racing would be a good choice.
Just curious if you guys could put out a list of fake or real? I’ve had a few sets of what I think are real wheels cuz they are unique in my opinion. Ronal Teddy Bears, MRR HR3 a few others but I can see if it might cause an issue in your business side of things to say BBS real ESM fake if you sell both. But between us maybe a pm. Party
This dude is amazing ignore the haters. I lost 3 girlfriends because of fitment industries so keep up the good work. In on my 4th set and looking for something 15x10 or 16x10 inch right now under $1200 a set as we speak
Has anyone ever heard of TRmotorsports? I bought their C4 wheel that looks like the Volk 6 spoke. They are a low pressure cast and I bought them for my daily driver. What do you think?
Chad Bandis mmm I’m sure they’ll do fine. Just don’t go show off your car as if it was an all around badass. They’re cheap wheels for a reason. Cheap wheels say a lot about a build. Idk if you have a built engine but let’s just say you wouldn’t skimp out on cheap engine parts hoping for a fast, reliable engine would you? Maybe for a daily that’s ok (every cheap engine part from autozone) definitely not a showcar by any means, sure that’s ok. I wouldn’t do that but many do. It’s your car in the end.
So i just bought ultralegerra OZ wheels, but I don't know if its fake... Reason i have doubts is coz the centrecap is plastic and it has no oz type lettering on the wheel itself like on their website, but the wheel id sold as OZ wheels, i paid about 900USD for all 4 wheels... Please help
Always always go a quality wheel if you give it the burl or track / even street drive hard. Forged ex factory wheels are always cheaper then new and best quality. R32-34 gtr wheels Evo 7-9 wheels Wrx sti wheels All made veeeeerrry well. And can get them cheap. I have 34 gtr wheels on my s15. Got em for 1.5k they come out on a 100k+ car forged perfect wheels. Paired with Pilot sport 4s and for 2.5k Australian dollariedoos you couldnt have gotten anything better.
After months and months of ridicule for fake/rep wheels (depending on who's clowning), I did some research to see what my wheels were a clone of. To this day (some ~5 years later), I still can't find a better match for XXR 527s than WedsSports TC105Ns.. which have a fairly flat face (compared to XXR's concave face like WedsSports larger TC105N wheels), high offset (anywhere from 20~48 vs 0) and thinner wheel (7" max vs 8.25").. Might not quite be 50%, but it's enough to give me the look I wanted with better fitment at a cheaper price.. Since purchasing the XXR527s, Advanti has come out with Storm S1 wheels that are essentially the same but lighter weight.. but after my curbing with my XXRs and a friend's curbing with the Advanti Storm S1s, I'm sticking with the XXRs.. mine got a small dent, his peeled open like a container for ready to bake pillsbury rolls..
I bought some Platinum wheels for my mountaineer and they were the definition of cheap wheels, but they looked good and were within my budget. They have held up for 5+ yrs towing a camper and going through the same Wisconsin winters as when this video was made. I can say however that if my mountaineer was a show car or anything other than functional I would save for better wheels. The Platinums started chipping and looking beat up pretty quick. I would have a hard time under any circumstance dropping over 1k on a single wheel (then decent tires ect) cause I wouldn't be able to sleep on them when my wife booted me. But killer cars need killer wheels so I get it. Wheels will always make or break a vehicle more than any other mod, and when your talking sub 1500 bucks for a set, the design choices are limited to say the least.
i say buy what you can afford and make it work and look good
Agreed.
True, but With some guide lines. Don't buy fake parts. If you like the BBS RS look, but can't afford it, buy somthing similar for a price you can afford. But never a fake. That's technically illigal, and portraits a bad image for you.
True, until it breaks and you crash and die. So yea
That Guy you missed the key words... make it WORK and look GOOD. he’s not saying form over function, he’s saying find a median between the two at your budget.
I agree, also like to add if it looks good to you as an individual person and you’re not trying to look good by doing things to style you’re whip just for acceptance of others that’s cool too I guess if it makes you happy, I for one could care less what others think, I got some great 1 piece converted 3 piece wheels but this upcoming summer I’m gonna rock staggered corvette C4 wheels which are possibly the most played out wheel in the last decade, but I really don’t care cuz I like the look of them, and at the end of the day that is all that matters to me.
You guys should now do a series reviewing wheels and label them Real, Rep or Fake. Love the channel. Keep up the awesomeness!
We can do that! We appreciate the support and ideas
It all boils down to "Cheap ain't good and good ain't cheap." People want the recognition without making the sacrifice, and they undercut the true proprietors and creators of the industry because "it's their money" and expect the same reaction and performance as the ORIGINAL high quality product. But to each his own, get it how you live.
Lmao, “rota in general.”
Completely absolutely true 😂😂
hey, if its good enough for Keiichi Tsuchiya its good enough for me
rota was there before all these other knockoffs came along..so?????
Well rota wheels made OEM wheels for major automotive companies,
Rota makes oem Toyota mag wheels...
@@martsmarts Im not sure know a days...in the 90's they are having tough competition to go to Toyota...either politics ...
i think reps are ok as long as they are trying to improve on the original design in some way, it could be cheaper, could come in more sizes and colours, could improve on the look, could just be an easier to obtain version of a rare wheel.
its ok to look at something and say "i could do it better"
speaking of which does anyone know of any TRD alumi-K reps or fakes?
We have all been there before, putting out $1000 maybe $1500 per wheel, without tires, thinking, I could have got a set of knock-offs and two weeks in Bali living like a king for the price of this damn set of wheels...
A fake wheel is a rep wheel with stickers/decals trying to pass off as a real wheel.
My Work Meister S2R’s have lip vinyl stickers that came from factory. The stickers themselves have been long discontinued.
Could you please repeat this a little bit louder, to the Subaru community in the back, I'm not sure they heard. thanks.
If yall chargin that much for some damn rims you bet im gonna buy some replicas
TheKaziCo wheels *
Not even the rims bro. U just getting the "wheels"
Black Asians? WTF lol im dead 😂😂😂
@roshg1 Cause if you force the fake wheels too hard, they can break all kinds of ways
@@MrDrakePrice Yeah but 90% of people who put aftermarket wheels on their cars only drive to work and back lol
Car guys are 2 sensitive now a days.
truuu
For reals bros! Hella always talking trash about another's car where the love you know??
Im offended by this comment.....🤣🤣🤣
@Charlie Vetsworth too*
You mean American.
Honestly, I understand the appeal. The cost of real wheels is seriously high, one wheel is more than a full set of reps. That said, if you can afford it you should be running real wheels to help support the companies that do the R&D that move the industry forward. They're not just the "original design", they're also the people coming up with the technology for production and the techniques for testing, all of which are critical for safety and quality in the aftermarket wheel community. So many reps are just terrible low quality and people buy them because they're cheap. At the end of the day, buying real wheels is the right thing to do for the community and for yourself.
A good rule of thumb is to simply never buy any wheel that's not from a reputable brand and that isn't JWL tested, VIA certified, and TUV certified. This ensures that they're at the very least safe to use on the road. There's a LOT of wheels on the market that aren't road-worthy, in my opinion. Then again, there's a lot of cars which are so cambered out that they aren't road-worthy either. If you can't buy something real, at least buy something safe. Don't put yourself, your family, and other drivers at risk by putting shoddily manufactured wheels on your car.
Dont you think if everyone buys fake wheels then the company will have more money for better qc and take their place?
Nope. That's not how companies work. I should know, I'm a Product Manager in the tech industry, so these types of things are literally something I think about every day at work. Companies are incentivized by profits, and profits can be increased by either increasing revenue while maintaining the same cost or by reducing costs.
Since companies that don't make real wheels don't have to spend on R&D for creating new production and test technology, nor do they spend on R&D for their wheel designs, they really just have the cost of their bill of materials + equipment (amortized) + production labor + marketing.
This is a really viable business model in industries which don't have strong intellectual property protections, or if you can use crossing national borders to protect yourself from liability. After all, if you spend all the money you would have had to spend on R&D on marketing you can end up with massive revenues at minimal costs == big profits.
The problem is, there's no incentive to change. Businesses are driven by customer demand, so if companies making fake wheels and reps get lots of business because of good marketing and low cost, they'll just keep doing what works. There is no incentive for them to invest in R&D at high cost to move the entire industry forward when their pricing doesn't account for it and they know that real wheel companies will do it anyway. The reputational value of making real wheels is the only thing that these companies seek, and it's far more possible to wiggle into the cracks than it is to invest real dollars into R&D.
Can a company go from making reps to making real wheels? Sure. Has it ever happened? Not to my knowledge. In the video they make the defining difference between reps vs real wheels as being based on design. I say it's more than that, it's also the actual production and testing technology which companies like BBS and Rays actually developed in-house and then publicized to help increase the safety and strength of wheels in the entire market. I'm sorry, but XXR and Rota are not going to be creating an entirely new method of wheel production or an entirely new testing safety standard anytime soon, it's just not profitable for them, no matter how many of their wheels you buy.
I think it’s ok for people to buy what they want and put whatever they want on their car. My problem is when someone says it’s just as good but cheaper. Or the ones who expect to get props on a setup that isn’t real amongst enthusiasts who value authenticity.
It's okay to do whatever you want as long as you're not endangering other people. That's the problem I have with fake wheels (not necessarily reps) is that they're not safe. Many reps are just as bad. As long as what you buy is JWL tested and TUV/VIA certified, I don't care if it's a rep or real, I'm not judging. But I won't buy anything myself that isn't real.
Jesus well said that took a while to type lol
Do a video On vossen and your thoughts about their wheels
We can do that!
Brandell Warren I actually met some dudes that work for vossen. My unc has a rim shop in Tampa and they come in to check out the shop and sell rims to him for him to sell. They both pulled up in grayish brown Audi’s with vossen tags on😂
Great video! Im not a big fan of replicas to be honest. BUT i remember Ken Block and his team once said “we like to use replica wheels because if the wheel happen to hit something, it will just break apart and it wont damage any major components (eg suspension, axle, etc)”. I guess somehow theres room for those.
Technically, all wheels are real. 😉
A stoner would say "whooooa dude" now hahah
guess you didnt watch the video
Thats funny. Yes They are all "REAL" not imaginary. Real fake but real. LOL
As one Vulcan scholar wryly quipped...
"Nothing unreal exists."
@@johngregory4801 True. A fake wheel is one that doesn’t perform or cannot hold air and is only up for display 😂
I don't specifically dislike reps or fakes as long as they're jwl via tested. I just prefer real wheels because I like multi-piece wheels and the reason I that I like the idea that if I don't like the current specs, I'm a lip and a barrel away from new specs, or in my case-- I welded lip/barrel lol.
Instead of buying fake wheels, buy OEM wheels from a different model of the make of your car. Just an example if you have a MB look into used Mono block or multi piece Brabus wheels or amg. If you dig deep enough you can sometimes find good deals on said wheels and you won’t have to jeopardize quality as long as you find a good set that is. Just a thought 💭
Ive had real wheels in the past as in CCW. VOLK. SSR. And have 2 sets of Enkei RPF1s. I feel like it depends on the vehicle on what you put on there. Don’t go throw XXR wheels on a nice car. Then again don’t put nice forged on a dumpster. That’s just me tho.
Lots of people get “real” wheels for bragging rights but it is kinda annoying hearing all the hate lol.
To each his own. Respect the choice of others.
Well said.
Thing is. It shouldn't matter if I'm rocking reps or "real" wheels. Don't like the Varrstoen, XXR, or ESR wheels I'm rolling on? Buy me the set of wheels you want. Then you can talk all the trash you want. Til then. My car. My money. My choice.
PS-Y all still havent made a video about Varrstoen....
I don't care about the style so much the quality control. Does giving you real wheels give you a good feel? Yeah I'll be honest I own SSR GTV02s so call me biased. I was looking into a lot of wheels before I even decided to make the purchase. I even looked into Rotas/XXRs/etc, but I wanted to be sure that I was safe. People say that real wheels bend and crack, but they have a higher tolerance. They've been tested thoroughly, it's something I drive everyday. People that say "Well stock wheels are low pressure cast". While that's true the car company designed it very specifically with one particular offset to the design. Meanwhile you can go buy any offset/design of reps and they probably didn't test it as well.
My personal opinion, but real wheels just look that much better. It just gives it that nice edge to the car. I'm sure someones cracked volks before but they still have a much higher tolerance. I've seen too many images of people crashing cause their rep wheel gave out. It's dangerous for everyone in the car and the people driving around you. If someone ever crashed into me because of a rep wheel I would be pissed.
if rotas are good enough for Keiichi Tsuchiya theyre good enough for me
Justin Nguyen I ran rep wheels all my life. Never had a crack or bend. Even with the horrible roads around my area. Ive seen real wheels break too. Any wheel will fail under the right circumstances.
Justin Nguyen I would love to have a set of Work VS-XX or Meisters. But I'm not spending $3-4k on a set of wheels.
I have a friend who totaled his car twice on ESRs. In both cases his car would've been a hell of lot better off had he not had reps. I got SSR 3-piece wheels for $650. 6 fucking 50. There is no excuse for buying reps
Wtf. Did not know Fitment Industries were an hour away from me until they made WI snow reference and I looked it up lol. Definitely stopping by this spring to decide on my new set up!
Yes if you don’t have BC racing coilovers or SSR wheels you get bash about it.... that’s the car community in Florida but I’m sure is like that every were...
well bc isnt well respected anymore for some reason. But since Florida is BCs home turf ofcourse people are going to rep the brand hard lol
Fellow Floridian here, my subie was on BC BR and Cosmis wheels lel. to some degree though you're absolutely right. Why are people here so crazy about SSR..?
I used to have SSR wheels, I loved them to bits and I miss them, they were the SSR Konig monsters if you care
Maddyx Myelstrom they're well produced wheels like Rays, Volk, Works, Weds, etc.
Roger Toledo I know! I meant locally at least, what Richard said is true. At least around these parts, SSR seems to be the brand most pushed by the scene, where the rest fall to the back burner, no matter how well made. I genuinely don't remember the last time I saw a set of TE37s on anything here
Too be honest, i just bought my first set of wheels for replica prices with superb quality and beautiful looks. These wheels are from am Aston Martin v8 vantage and they amazing!!!! I can't tell you how much I love them, not only for their looks but for the fact that I know I'm getting great quality at a rep price. I say all this to say stop following the "in-crowd" follow you're own path and you'll be surprised what you can come across. Oem wheels ftw
I've had real and fake wheels and I can attest to the difference in quality and strength. Real wheels are worth what they cost for their build quality and safety.
5:02 peek a boo all the way to the right 😂😂😂
Literally JUST purchased a set of Konig Control 17" Matte Black. I'm pretty excited.
HELL YEAH! Sounds sick lol, Don't forget to upload pictures to our gallery to be featured! www.fitmentindustries.com/add-wheel-offset
A few years back before I had my construction company I didn’t have much and I had this Chrysler 300 and I bought replica srt rims and I was in a tight spot and was forced to use my car for work and I had to put heavy tools in the car like a small skaffold and other things I remember I flew one time with the tools on the back on some railroad tracks on a hill really hard and the rims held up really good no cracking or anything i staryed with them rims for years with no problems and they were some 20’s now I’m blessed to be able to get more but don’t forget where I came from cause them rims were good too me I still have the car but sold the rims to my boy and they are still good and running kept the car just finished fixing it to the way I wanted it back then and I just keep it in the garage run it from time to time cause that 300 has sentimental value to me :)
I still have my gen 5 2001 Prelude 5spd with 2inch lower in the front and 1.75 in in the back with 17 inch Racing Hart C5's . Anyone else love the H22 as much as I do?
Nerazzurri Arcuri I had a prelude. Hated it
The lude is a cool car
I have Rota Slipstreams on my Civic daily and I love them!!! I got them for a great price too.
I rock super cheap vision cross. Dont care if they're fake or rep or what (common mesh pattern). They fit, they're sturdy, they're lighter than stock and look amazing on my car. Anything more expensive to serve exactly the same purpose is for bragging rights only.
Wheels depend on the vehicle in my opinion. A daily shouldnt have 4000 dollar wheels. Atleast coming from someone who lives in the northeast. Pot holes and railroad tracks fucked up from snow plows and salt. Most people want to customize their car to be different. Doesn't mean you need expensive track wheels.
Yea but we go winter mode come fall, and shelve the nice wheels until spring.
So we can run a nice wheel around here , you just gotta keep an eye on the season.
you're not condescending or pretentious like some other channels ive seen. keep it up.
Replica wheels $400-$700 new. The Work Meister S2R’s I found on OfferUp that were powder coated purple and have the lip vinyl stickers from factory, $240 with burner tires. Best $240 I’ve spent this decade.
A video on Buddy Club wheels would be cool to see. I bought my set Brand new Mag Blue 15x8 + 32 for around $600 shipped to my door and they are real wheels. It's a interesting company i don't see much info on. Typically I see most cars running the older P1 design, but not many with the newer p1 design like myself and there isn't much history on them for me to go off of. Their Mag Blue also does seem to be much brighter than other Mag Blue's I see such as the Volk Te37's.
"Let us know what you think in the comments. It's probably already on fire down there." 😂😂😂😂 Yes sir, you have lit a fire with THIS one!! So many opinions, some valid and some not. Before I really got into the "behind the scenes" of wheels, I always thought they were like the automotive industry. They "borrow" ideas from each other. Whoever puts it out first, gets the credit.
Now I know there is MORE to it than that. But some wheels get bad reputations when it's the owners fault. For example, someone mentioned do a video on Vossen. I've heard nothing but bad things about them over the years. From being a cast wheel to bad customer service. But their marketing campaigns are FIYA!!!
Now the problem with their cast wheel or ANY other cast wheel is that when the owner run a stretched tire, or any tire below a 35 series tire, you run the risk of that wheel being damaged on messed up streets!! Not too many wheels will hold up at 40 plus miles per hour and hit a pothole with 25 series tires!! And you blame the wheel!! I think that's where some of Vossen's "bad rep" came from.
"Real" wheels are not that much better either. Because you pay TOP dollar for two or three piece wheels, and ride them everyday, you run the risk of the wheel or all four being or getting lose. I think a two or three piece wheel should be on a REAL show car. Not to be driven everyday. Especially a three piece wheel. Just my two cents, carry on.. 😄😄
rep wheels are allowed for out of production wheels if made exactly the same way as the original akin to aftermarket oem
Thanks for visually validating my set!
Nice vid Alex. Balanced info. This kind of content is why I'm a subscriber. Keep up the great work (feature some nice viewer builds!)
Appreciate the support
Pick the wheels that make yourself happy, regardless of what it is.
AMEN
THEN suddenly they break & you crash and die
lol
at least they die happy 😂
You do you and what makes you happy don’t let others comments bring you down you build your car to YOUR liking.
Can u make a list of heritage wheel brands?
Trion Juggernaut SSR, Volk racing, Rays engineering, works, weds
enkei also
Sure!
MHT is a USA company but have been in the game for a long time & make tons of wheels for other TOP brands, there’s also Lowenhart, Riken, ARE, HRE, OZ, Manaray, Maya/TrafficStar, Lorinser, Carlsson, Speedline, & plenty more that I’m forgetting
The first set of wheels i put on my subie were a secondhand set of Rota Grid R's. The original owner of the wheels politely failed to mention he'd cracked one of them, and in my excitement to have my first set of aftermarket wheels i totally missed the little hairline. The tire debeaded on me a few days later on the way to work. Needless to say, i was pretty unhappy. While i don't run around bashing Rota for this (i don't know what kind of driving the person before me did or what those wheels went through prior to my purchase.) It has made me wary of buying other Rota products simply for the sake of the fact that they *were* cracked. the idea moreso that it CAN happen, not that it WILL. I feel that if you buy them new, you're probably not likely to run into the same issue i did.
Big ass potholes or curbs etc. can damage even the "real"wheels so don't blame Rota if you don't know the whole story bro.
*Grabs popcorn before venturing into comments section*
Should make a video one custom one of a kind video or how to get your own design made
What’s your guys opinion about Konig wheels ? Thinking if getting some for my bmw.
Jose Gonzalez I say go for it personally. Buddy of mine just put konigs on his e46 and they look great
well since konig is a supporter of the scene i say go for it. some of their designs are reps but they been in the game long enough and should be respected
Jose Gonzalez great wheels i just got a set for my brz they were really lightwheight (18×9.5) and so far still look great
Alex Tyrone which ones did you get ?
Check out our Wheel History on them! It's on our channel :D
A real wheel is any wheel I like that fits my bolt pattern. I take the emblems off anyway. And put on my own custom one. But if it's not a full blow show car having real wheels. Has no benefits. You don't get more BJ's because your wheels are real.
D Carden unsprung weight, safety, confidence of driving, appearance. All reasons to have real wheels.
Austin Couto Nascar has fake wheels so I can have them to you not gone be driving as hard as them I promise you want
Nascar doesnt have "Fake wheels"you dumbass they have steel racing wheels. And unless youre car is running above 800hp I would stop with the Nascar comparisons.
because nobody tracks their car ever right
Man are you making custom centercaps?
I quit watching at the very beginning when the guy threw the tree at his gf you can't get any better than that sorry lol
My dream wheels are 3pc Leon Hardiritt Ordens with a step lip in polished chrome and center face in graphite grey with gold hardware. But they are sooooo rare in 5x108 and expensive...😅
Well, you get what you pay for.
A company’s reputation is number one on my list.
For example Radi8 wheels are relatively new and look very proper, but I would be hesitant on purchasing a set because of that reason of reputation.
it's strange you never mention OZ Racing, Speedline, Team Dynamics...
Ohh, and my fake winter splits were 450 bucks and are tough as nails under any and all driving conditions, only real downfall I see with them are that they are pretty damn heavy
In my opinion the difference between real and fake would be durability if they are identical in every other way then it's a replica but a fake would have say casting flaws internally that would cause it to fail or break or be weaker for some reason
What I look for in wheels for my Miata are will they break if I go off track and are they lighter than stock as a result I run 949 racing 6uls
im running Rota Recce and i love it!
I'll just stick with my forged one piece bbs stock wheels...
It’s funny how many people are defending fake or cheap wheels saying there’s no difference. Personally I’m not gonna risk having a wheel break going around a tight corner at 100km/h in my Audi S4 B8.5. The car is worth $37,000 NZD so it would be pointless to cheap out on some wheels and potentially wreck the whole car (any myself!) because the wheel snapped mid corner and sent me into a ditch. I bought some mint condition second hand Advan RS2’s. Yes they’re second hand but I checked them over very thoroughly and they’re absolutely mint condition, not a single scratch. They cost me $1650 NZD but would normally retail for $3500 NZD.
In the mustang community rep's would be considered a factory copy wheel. I'd say more mustang run reps then a real name branded wheel.
Cory kempland over here with the modern Mopar’s a lot of guys run those Viper reps, some companies offer lifetime warranty. Those would be the ones I’d run if I did. But I don’t like looking like everyone else lol
In the muscle car community you’re right. That’s what they consider rep Wheels. A replica of an OEM wheel that’s probably upsized.
Cory kempland same thing in the truck scene. Rep wheels would be factory oen wheels
SO the obvious question is: If you, as a retailer, know that there are wheels out there that are unsafe due to the way they are made (e.g. cast replicas of forged wheels), do you refuse to sell those wheels? In other words, can WE the consumers trust YOU to help us avoid crap wheels?
A lot of that is based off of how people drive with their wheels on! However we also would not sell wheels from a company who has a bad reputation either!
Another vote for Varrstoen video I had a set of the BBS LM copies and wow the lips are poor quality. Previous owner ran them for 8 months before selling me the car and the lips were already corroding.
I am now on TE37 (third set). My current set were made in 1997. You get what you pay for. Run OEM wheels until you can afford a quality set. My two cents.
That's awesome man. We will get on that varrstoen video ASAP!
I look forward to this one!!
Do one on explaining stretch tires
We did! Check out our channel! It's on there :D
I didn't go to many fraternity parties either my guy 🤷🏿♂️ lol
Yo I swear to god, I saw those SAME EXACT WHEELS in the picture on a bagged 370z, same color and everything, the only different is the wheel on the z was flipped
when will you do diamond racing wheels? steel dont break!!
We'll add it to the list!
Alexander Farina yeees! I wanna see those and cragar soft 8's on some trucks with big sidewall tires!
Where does Aodhan fall in this debate ? If I'm going my beat on my weekend car will they bend or crack?
Do "Truth" for Sparco/OZ
We'll throw it on the docket!
can you make a vid about Heritage wheels ? the company named Heritage that sells 3 piece wheels. those are dope AFFFF
Sure! Added to the docket!
Make a video on A-tech finalspeed wheels. I have a set and I can’t find much info about them
We can do that!
5:50 can someone tell me what the black wheel is on the second row, second from the left? Cheers
I don't like fake wheels they destroy the company's reputation that made the original one but replicas with the branding of a new company is good until they start making unique designs of their own
Thank you Fitment Industries for the seal of approval of my comment and the likes :) :) :)
ok can anyone tell me what the black wheels in the middle row are? the second one on the left... middle row. I might need to buy me a set of those.
Real wheels are great. But I do chuckle a little when a 99 Civic pulls into the meet with over $3000 in wheels. Kinda like your 99 year old grandmother getting a boob job. No disrespect tho. Lol
Marcos Rodriguez he's doing it right ,
The more embarrassing things is when someone's buys a 50k gtr and then puts rota grids or Japan racing wheels on it 😂even though they can afford te37s
Brandon l
lol That's also true !
except civics can be build up pretty damn hard. also, you're going to shit on the civic regardless. they could have nice wheels or replicas: you'd shit on it anyways because "HURR RICE DURR." you are the car community's cancer
Marcos Rodriguez stupid Spanish inbred
Berenger Christy
I don't think I'm the car community's cancer if I look at the Civic, and I move on. I keep the comments to myself. It's their build.
Was wondering if you could give me a quick review of my wheels. Advan model T5 17". I just bought them used with bends and cracks had them fixed and powder coated near perfect. 2k invested. I know its high but Ive wanted them forever. I have loved these wheels since I was a kid but I dont know much about them. Even though there dated do you think they still look good? Quality? How much did I over pay? There on my is300. Would post a pic but wont let me
Just upload that bad boy to our gallery so we can see more pics! bit.ly/2Ma4oca
Are you guess gonna do a video about 3DSM wheels, also was curious are they big in america??
We definitely are! Stay tuned!
Rotas method sounds like gray badging almost
How can you talk about "Real" Wheels and not mention *CCW* *SSR* or *BBS* !? They are 3 of the best Wheel companies in business today! And while we're on the topic... I've never seen you give any recognition to *BARRAMUNDI* who is basically the Japanese version of CCW, but IMO they have better options & definitely have Original designs! They deserve a review on your channel. I ran a set of Barramundi Snook's on my 99' GC8 Type RA & ended up selling them when I bought my Evo 8 bcuz of the PCD change.
Our videos can only be so long! We have future videos tho stay tuned we will be covering those Legendary A$$ wheels soon!
Also remember that there are only a limited number of 'original' designs out there, before eventually every wheel is going to look like another wheel. We need these 'rep' companies coming in preventing the monopoly of the large wheel manufacturers from driving the price of wheels through the roof. It's like the music industry and all there legal issues. There are only 12 notes in a scale (7 white, 5 black) and only a limited combination of those notes. So eventually stuff is going to sound similar. Same thing with wheels. All wheels must be round (unless your Chinese, Triangle tyres!), and only a certain number of things can be done within that circle to contact the rim to the hub. Certain niche companies have tried to think out side the box (or cylinder?), like Ronal, but they are not exactly 'popular'. Most people want a light 5,6 or 7 spoke wheel. Only so much originality before everything just starts looking the same.
Oh thats @m_papii's m4 in the thumbnail, he has a sweet bagged m4 gts now.
In my opinion a Fake wheel is a wheel that is an exact copy or close to the same design of an original being sold as the actual if its the original brand, mainly a “knock off” a replica is an identical wheel made to “replicate” an original designe but of corse sod under a different brand and a different style model name. Like a single piece made to look like an original 2 or 3 piece. For example OE replicas, that look identical, might be offered in different finishes or even larger diameter.
Scrolling thru the gallery while playing this in the background yeahhhhhh
Lol no snow in Wisconsin and we love it
Its a weird feeling tho I must say. lol 😂
I have been told by a local show to avoid Avanti rims.. how true is this?
It's pretty simple actually if it gets a vehicle feature on this page it's probably a rep wheel.
i think japan racing wheels not a bad choice for a cheap way to get bbs style wheels for older bmws. bbs sometimes are more expensive than the car they go on and than i think that japan racing would be a good choice.
Anyone knows whats the brand of the 3 piece gold and chrome wheel in the video? Thanks
got you fam 🤟 bit.ly/2PIgCKW
Like the the rota slipstreams are a knock-off the the spoons wheels. I should know... I have a set.
What's the 3rd to last wheel on the top? The 6 spoke
The AVID1 AV6 is a personal favorite wheel of mine, anyone have input on that? It’s a te37 rep
Hey, can you guys do a video reviewing Avid1? Im thinking of getting a set of av36 's but im having a little trouble finding good info on them.
Absolutely!
Avid1 is waaaaaay too close in name to AVD1. Waaaay to close. $1000 set of wheels vs $10,000 set. I’d like to see a video about that!
Lbintab youre right lol. I found the Avid1 av36 on fitment industries website so I eould hope theyre decent ya know? 😂
Because I love them, but can't afford the real ones...I really wish someone would replicate the Ronal R10 turbo wheels.
Just curious if you guys could put out a list of fake or real? I’ve had a few sets of what I think are real wheels cuz they are unique in my opinion. Ronal Teddy Bears, MRR HR3 a few others but I can see if it might cause an issue in your business side of things to say BBS real ESM fake if you sell both. But between us maybe a pm. Party
Do a video on Japan Racing wheels!
Its on the list!
What is the reputation of Vertini VS Forged series? Are they considered real?
Luxury Abstract, One of my favorites
This dude is amazing ignore the haters. I lost 3 girlfriends because of fitment industries so keep up the good work. In on my 4th set and looking for something 15x10 or 16x10 inch right now under $1200 a set as we speak
Lmao! We appreciate the support man! Shoot us an email and we can help you pick your next set of wheels :D Shop@fitmentindustires.com
Has anyone ever heard of TRmotorsports? I bought their C4 wheel that looks like the Volk 6 spoke. They are a low pressure cast and I bought them for my daily driver. What do you think?
Chad Bandis mmm I’m sure they’ll do fine. Just don’t go show off your car as if it was an all around badass. They’re cheap wheels for a reason. Cheap wheels say a lot about a build. Idk if you have a built engine but let’s just say you wouldn’t skimp out on cheap engine parts hoping for a fast, reliable engine would you? Maybe for a daily that’s ok (every cheap engine part from autozone) definitely not a showcar by any means, sure that’s ok. I wouldn’t do that but many do. It’s your car in the end.
I really like this thank you.
when will you guys do Japan Racing?
Its on the way! Stay tuned!
So i just bought ultralegerra OZ wheels, but I don't know if its fake... Reason i have doubts is coz the centrecap is plastic and it has no oz type lettering on the wheel itself like on their website, but the wheel id sold as OZ wheels, i paid about 900USD for all 4 wheels... Please help
Always always go a quality wheel if you give it the burl or track / even street drive hard. Forged ex factory wheels are always cheaper then new and best quality.
R32-34 gtr wheels
Evo 7-9 wheels
Wrx sti wheels
All made veeeeerrry well.
And can get them cheap.
I have 34 gtr wheels on my s15. Got em for 1.5k they come out on a 100k+ car forged perfect wheels. Paired with Pilot sport 4s and for 2.5k Australian dollariedoos you couldnt have gotten anything better.
The factory BBS r34 gtr wheels are nice, I just wish they were at minimum +20 offset instead of +30.
After months and months of ridicule for fake/rep wheels (depending on who's clowning), I did some research to see what my wheels were a clone of. To this day (some ~5 years later), I still can't find a better match for XXR 527s than WedsSports TC105Ns.. which have a fairly flat face (compared to XXR's concave face like WedsSports larger TC105N wheels), high offset (anywhere from 20~48 vs 0) and thinner wheel (7" max vs 8.25")..
Might not quite be 50%, but it's enough to give me the look I wanted with better fitment at a cheaper price.. Since purchasing the XXR527s, Advanti has come out with Storm S1 wheels that are essentially the same but lighter weight.. but after my curbing with my XXRs and a friend's curbing with the Advanti Storm S1s, I'm sticking with the XXRs.. mine got a small dent, his peeled open like a container for ready to bake pillsbury rolls..
Would you guys consider forgstar F14 real wheels?
Can you make a review about ferrada fr3?
Sure!
When?
I bought some Platinum wheels for my mountaineer and they were the definition of cheap wheels, but they looked good and were within my budget. They have held up for 5+ yrs towing a camper and going through the same Wisconsin winters as when this video was made. I can say however that if my mountaineer was a show car or anything other than functional I would save for better wheels. The Platinums started chipping and looking beat up pretty quick. I would have a hard time under any circumstance dropping over 1k on a single wheel (then decent tires ect) cause I wouldn't be able to sleep on them when my wife booted me. But killer cars need killer wheels so I get it. Wheels will always make or break a vehicle more than any other mod, and when your talking sub 1500 bucks for a set, the design choices are limited to say the least.