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Live Looping Rig Rundown (How I loop using Singular Sound Aeros, EHX 95000 & Pigtronix Infinity)
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- Опубліковано 15 сер 2024
- Here is the system I use that has continued to grow as I experiment with how I would like looping to work for me. I share not only a detailed view of this Looper Rig, but also some of my patterns for looping. #LiveLooping #RigRundown
Chapters:
0:00 - Intro
0:56 - Guitar Input
2:00 - Pre-Effect Looping
4:40 - Bass Guitar Emulation
6:13 - Guitar Signal
7:42 - Guitar System A
11:45 - Looping Interlude
12:07 - Guitar System B
14:33 - Drums & Synth
17:33 - Recording Interface
18:11 - MIDI Control
19:50 - Aeros Looper
The gear in the order that it is discussed (links to products that I specifically demo or discussed):
Radial Twin-City
Pigtronix Infinity
Electro-harmonix Bass9 reverb.grsm.io...
Tech21 dUg Pinnick Bass preamp pedal
TC Electronic PolyTune
MXR SmartGate
Source Audio Programmable EQ
Ernie Ball Volume
Sound Sculpture ABCadabra
Strymon Iridium
AMT E2
AMT B2
AMT O2
Strymon Mobius
Eventide H9
Xotic RC Booster
TC Electronics MIMIQ
Neunaber Iconoclast reverb.grsm.io...
Radial JPC Direct Box
Wounded Paw Blender
Strymon Timeline
Strymon BigSky
Boogie 5-Band EQ
Radial JDX Drive
Line6 HX Stomp
Strymon Volante
Strymon Nightsky
McMillen Boppad reverb.grsm.io...
Electro-harmonix 95000 reverb.grsm.io...
Radial Pro D2
McMillen 12 Step
RME Fireface 800
FAMC Liquid Foot
Morningstar MC-6 reverb.grsm.io...
Morningstar MC-3
Molten Voltage TEMPODE
Singular Sound Aeros reverb.grsm.io...
Got some cool news about an update to my rig. The MIDI Clock pedal I was using has now been replaced by a pedal of my own design: ua-cam.com/video/lPWMNyMQ7cM/v-deo.html
wow. this is just...so far above my level of technical knowhow. really explains how you get the sound quality you do (sansamp AFTER Bass9. genius.). entertaining video too! i'm only up to the guitar signal so far but this is all gold, can't wait to watch the rest
Dude, come on! LOL Everyone should see your videos. You have quite the command over some pretty technical pieces. Granted, the sansamp after the Bass9 WAS a pretty good touch though. :-) A personal fav and so simple. Was that a Bass9 I saw on your board in The Sky Is A Neighborhood?
That was incredible! Thanks for putting this useful and informative video on how you can utilized the Aeros. Keep up the inspiration, Joe! :)
Thanks! Looking to using it for many more performances and seeing how far I can stretch it.
Geez this setup is insane, love it!! Can't imagine the work that must've gone into it
This is definitely the most comprehensive loop station pedal set up I’ve seen. I also use a pre and post double loop station set up but I’ve never seen anyone else use it. The fact that you’ve combined that with various midi capable pedals. I also have the Aeros as my master looper and RC-500 as my input looper. I use Blackbox or Electribe as my drum machine. Great Set up! You put a lot of worthwhile time into this.
This is intense. I’m going to have to watch this about a hundred more times to figure out just what the hell you are doing. Lol
This is for all the gear heads like me! The order in which they are discussed:
Radial Twin-City reverb.grsm.io/radialtwincity
Pigtronix Infinity reverb.grsm.io/infinity
Electro-harmonix Bass9 reverb.grsm.io/bass9
Tech21 dUg Pinnick Bass preamp pedal reverb.grsm.io/dpx3
TC Electronic PolyTune
MXR SmartGate
Source Audio Programmable EQ
Ernie Ball Volume
Sound Sculpture ABCadabra
Strymon Iridium reverb.grsm.io/iridium3821
AMT E2
AMT B2
AMT O2
Strymon Mobius
Eventide H9
Xotic RC Booster
TC Electronics MIMIQ
Neunaber Iconoclast reverb.grsm.io/iconoclast
Radial JPC Direct Box
Wounded Paw Blender
Strymon Timeline
Strymon BigSky
Boogie 5-Band EQ
Radial JDX Drive
Line6 HX Stomp
Strymon Volante reverb.grsm.io/volante
Strymon Nightsky
McMillen Boppad reverb.grsm.io/boppad
Electro-harmonix 95000 reverb.grsm.io/95000
Radial Pro D2
McMillen 12 Step
RME Fireface 800
FAMC Liquid Foot
Morningstar MC-6 reverb.grsm.io/mc6
Morningstar MC-3
Molten Voltage TEMPODE
Singular Sound Aeros reverb.grsm.io/aeros
You have a BIG budget!!
Lucky guy !!
You're the progressive rock of guitar setups. I love these videos so much.
Awesome! I like that. Really glad that you enjoy my over-the-top ideas.
@@jmkmusicpedals I love the challenge: I could sound bigger, do more, here's how. I mean that with the utmost respect.
Wonderful system. Unheard level of complexity and sophistication for someone that plays metal.
Fantastically explained information, Thanks much!
Just getting into looping with the Aeros and this was a really interesting video. Fairly complicated but explained well and the diagrams were very helpful. Thank you Joe.
Thanks for explaining your plans and thought processes. Very useful perspective. Cheers!
Wow, that was a pretty complex and sophisticated signal chain path, impressive looping rig!
Your a mad effects scientist. So brilliant
Dude, this is insanely great. You've got some of the ingredients of my dream looper rig. It's good to hear that the Bass9 does the job well. And you've got not only one, but two discontinued Source Audio Reflexes? Damn, now I'm jealous. Keep on rockin'!
Bass9 is really, really good. Or at least a couple of the settings are. I had one Reflex and read they were being discontinued and I immediately bought a second as backup. Now I use both. LOL. It would suck not to have at least one of those. I could get by with other expression pedals hooked up to the MIDI controllers, but these are so much more convenient and flexible. I'm hoping they'll make a comeback some day. I think they may have just been a little before their time.
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My sincere thanks to your good self for the wonderful sharing. It was very informative.
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my mind is blown, probably somewhat like your bank account!! I think il stick to my bias fx and have all of these type things digitally. My signal chain can be as complex as this but with only a Melo audio tone shifter and an aeros loop studio. Probably won't sound as good but close enough for me. That guitar to bass pedal does sound very tempting however. Keep rocking bro! love the weird timing riffs
Great stuff Joe ! Thanx
Excellent breakdown, phenomenal tone, intense knowledge of gear!! Just subscribed
Thanks!
This and you are awesome it’s like what I would do if I won the lotto!!! Just searching for the best way to expression. Nice work, you should just rent your room out to needy guitarists for a day or two or three!!!!
Feeling good looping using the quad cortex for guitar parts but still loving the bass9 , but you are the master
lmao, I'm just imagining you trying to find a faulty patch cable. Sweet setup : D
Joe, really enjoyed your video and being enlightened on some pedals I’m not familiar with. I just finished my live rig (for a gig I have booked one month from now) and was surfing to see how mine differs from others doing the solo/live/looping so I really appreciate your openness to sharing here. I have been playing live for 30+ years now and one thing I would urge you to do (in a live situation, studio is completely different) is simplify this set up as best you can if you are taking it out to perform. I say this because: a) we are not musicians, we are movers and hauling this much gear around (walking through a crowd, up/down stairs while double parked) will be difficult; b) trouble shooting a loose cord or malfunctioning piece of gear in a live situation will be extremely difficult; c) setting this up and tearing down quickly (say you are the 3rd performer that night and have 5 minutes to get on stage and set up) will be very challenging. Sorry to sound preachy here but I have had everything from sound men intentionally sabotaging me to amps blowing up and the power swinging wildly from 80 to 130 volts (which turned off all my effects mid song) happen playing live. A big part of my live rig is anticipating what can go wrong and simplifying to avoid that. Good luck to you, you’re definitely creating some unique sounds and pushing the envelope here.
It's not my live rig by any stretch. This is purely studio.
Thanks for the great video. If we ever get to perform live and in person again, you'd need a roadie to cart and set it all up 😄. That's a lot of nicer gear.
Thanks. If I ever do this kind of thing live, I really doubt it'll be this rig. It's too much, even a gear maniac like me knows that. I already hit my limit with a rig about half this size last time around. I do like how it sounds in my completed recordings though; no post production work required at all except the usual mastering touches.
I must admit that I had been very curious what all those buttons do. Very informative video explaining it all, excellent work. What I would like to hear next is; does it take you longer to compose and memories the parts, or to program all the sound changes and remember which button to press next?
I'm looking forward to your next composition.
Thank you. Good question. Composing is definitely the more intuitive part of the process while programming can be a bit frustrating at times. The act of doing both of them are kind of intertwined, so they pretty much start and complete at the same time. The memorization isn't too bad ... but there is always that one spot in every song with the current incarnation where I have to twist around and perform a couple actions really fast, that's always the toughest.
Thanks Joe, this is on my watchlist for tomorrow and I'm sure it will answer all the questions I had when watching your recent live looping videos. I've always enjoyed the high level of tech in your guitar rigs over the years. Realistically, will your rig ever stop growing? :-)
Thanks. I learned a while ago to never say I'm done. Every so often it does actually contract too though. (cue the guy who is going to tell me I should just get a Helix Rack and I start considering it for about 1 hour :-).
Nice!
Amazing rig!! 👏👏👏
Very enjoyable. Thank you for sharing! Looping is such fun! Glad to see others are putting as much time and thought into their craft as I am. I've followed you here on UA-cam. Do you have a Twitch channel? If you do, I'll follow you there also. Keep rockin'!
Thanks!. I'm not on twitch.
Insanity . I love it
Amazing! So many loopers. Have you tried the RC 600? (I'm going to share this to the 505 / 600 group)
For some reason, I have never owned a Boss looper. I don't know why that is. The RC-600 almost hooked me .... I might get it to see what I could be missing.
Great system and know How. By the way, what model is this guitar you play?
That's a Charvel Guthrie Govan model.
Hola senor, two years of debating researching these. EHX 95000 seems to be the least menu diving and friendly? I'm a percussions man so what's your experience for simplicity?
Great. you never really spoke much about the EHX 95000, or the Pigtronix looper. Has the Aeros superseded them ?
I used them all together coordinated by a MIDI Clock.
@@jmkmusicpedals thanks Joe.
Wow you’ve go a plethora of a system.
How are you liking or not the Aeros Looper.
I tried it out and found it’s responsible to my input slow.
It was a 1st release unit.
I got it then too. It's a lot better than it was initially. It still doesn't do a few things that were advertised
I have a couple of questions about isolating seperate tracks in the 95000 via a midi switch. I'm attempting to simplify to save my back. HELP. Please
How do you mean?
Dude i have a hadache just trying to understand it. How are even able to use this. There is so much stuff :D
There are prior videos of me using it. But I wouldn't gig like this, it's my mad scientist setup for studio use only.
Amazing set up! I have an mc8, can you let me know what features the aeros can NOT do via midi footswitch? On the fence about purchasing.
Like me, I think you are going to need to have your MIDI controller and the Aeros next to each other and rely on both.
The MIDI implementation in Aeros will allow you to record and jump to Parts with 1 touch, which is the main benefit, but it's missing a few obvious things like "Play" when you just want to end your recording and have it exit record mode and simply play over the part you just finished.
That's when having the Aeros next to you becomes important. The combinations of using both a MIDI Controller and the switches on the Aeros are necessary right now. Check the docs available on Singular Sounds website, it lists all of the MIDI commands it has so far.
I won't sugarcoat it, this is the weakest point for me currently, but work on the MIDI implementation happens with each iteration of the software and they are planning a more complete implementation within the next 2 release cycles on the forum. Honestly, besides some criticism that the MIDI could be improved, the unit itself is the most flexible hardware based controller I've used to date for layering tracks and organizing song parts. I couldn't do what I'm doing with just the other loopers that I own.
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@@jmkmusicpedals great response, thank you bud.. had to filter youtube search to even find this looper in action outside of use with the beat buddy and/or midi maestro. I play with 2 boss rc300s and as fun as that can be I'm dying for a smaller footprint because I also play with a fullsize 16-pedal board already. I really like overdub>replace mode on the boss and some other quirks but still considering this one, thanks again.
Wanna sell one of those reflex pedals? 😁 awesome Video by the way wish I could get you to come help me set mine up I got a ton of gear and trying to figure the best way to set it up like yours!
Dude, I bought the second one as a backup when I heard they were being discontinued ... and it found its way on my board, so no more backups! LOL. I think they'll come around again, I think they were just a little ahead of the curve.
Thank Joe great video tell it works . Blood hell so much wire up wow . Run your guitar in box down to bass sound in bass di box smart . Midi good too morning star I'm look in it run my strymon too better read a see then number s . For bass sound for I run bass amp markbass head use it with drum track like trio from digitech . See what do set up man lot money set on floor in rack too. my mate thinks I lot lot gear ah he better watch your video. Live loop for my on spot a come up song it feel you are the band . I like you gear very cool . For me old school new ideas an technology smaller too I use 3 amp am still work my rig one Pedalboard is 3 amp preamp stromp box strymon timeline other new one midi is need . Amp are two bluguitar one victory duchess v4 an copper v4 preamp run out 3or4 cab an di out later? . Other Pedalboard for switching stromp box drive fx all that . I get wet dry wet sound how mix it bluguitar amzing real amp feel power amp feel . Victory amp duchess clean great for clean delay ok on bluguitar too just bit clean ( fender tone ) add copper vox clean an push hot too it A class feel in mix but don't have big amp in room take up area. Amp bluguitar an victory Improved design amp . So looping fit in later mite need another Pedalboard I got Pedalboard jr . Now I got work on it Rebuild work midi one ezy morning star look good with drop a drag use pc . Sorry long text that technology for ya . Great video Joe
Holy crap dude! Sounds amazing I'm just looking to put together a rig w/ Aeros, midi maestro, BBuddy, looperboard, Helix Rack, Pod go, Arturia hardware/software, triggering drum tracks/ backing tracks from Helix foot controller midi to PC running Studio One 6, Studiolive series III, and so on and so forth add infinium... I'm still trying to figure out midi! How to put something together where you don't have to hual your whole studio with to do a solo gig! I could write and record five albums by myself by the time I figure that out.
too complicated for me .....id keep a few effect pedals and get the big boy rc600