Just a note. It isn't HP that gets your front wheel off the ground. That would be torque. Once torque gets you moving HP becomes more relevant as you gain speed. HP is what allows you to keep up with traffic on the freeway. Torque is what gives you the grunt to hop over logs and rocks.
Nice overview : ) the exhaust piece is more like 7oz though... Those mechanical mods probably add 1-2 hp at the most. Keep in mind the Athena 290 bore only adds 7-8hp at the rear wheel. The "doubled" hp claim was a bit lofty and may or may not be misleading to a lot of potential WR owners..
I just got a mint 07 WR 450 , bought it to have a heavy practice bike while I race the YZ125 and YZ250 . I have to say this WR corners better than the YZ ... The Cornering is Amazing . I dont really feel the weight until I have to correct or dab ... I wouldnt race it b/c of the weight but it is definitely a 100% off road capable bike that Corners fantastic ! The WR is the only 4 stroke ive ever liked and i've rode many. btw, I have an m59 and 404 on it , not plated either
I don't want to sound too harsh. I've had mine for two seasons and it has never left me stranded (except for a flat tire) The 6 speed trans is a big benefit for gravel roads. It is an issue with all dual sports. The more riding you do, the more skilled you get. Then you just outgrow the bike.
I love the Dunlop D606s. Could not be happier with them either. They hookup great and don't wear too bad even on the highway plus you can lean it way over in the corners on the street. Normally not a huge Dunlop fan either... never tried the Mitases
It depends on your elevation. Normally if you increase the air you also need to increase the fuel to keep your air/fuel mix correct so the bikes doesn't run too lean. That's what the fuel injection programmer is for... adding more fuel.
If you want a tire that will corner a little better offroad but still last on the street try the Michelin AC10, had one on my old street legal yz250 and now on my wr250f.
@Nicholas King i doubt it. I've had my 02 wr250 for about 9 years now and it barely ever needs a thing these bikes are tanks. the only thing i've had to do it replace spark plugs, clean the air filter (obviously) and clean the carb after long sits. this one not having a carb (i believe its fuel injected but he doesn't have the year listed) probably makes it even more bullet proof
Great video!! I've been researching all the dual sports and I think this is the bike for me with the same mods you have done. Can it comfortably cruise down the highway at 65mph??
Should do suspension mods first. Will make your bike much faster. Also, Id pick up a new case saver that doesn't just build up with dirt like the stock. Cant wait till I get around to getting that whale tail off my wr. Got a bit of other mods before that since its more cosmetic that anything. Think Im going to go with the edge as well.
great vid mate very helpful. picking one up in 2-3 months, have you had the d606's on there for a while? how well do those knobs hold up to extended street use?
SO hows that 12 tooth sprocket going? Heard thata 12 tooth can eat the swing arm as well as stock. did you eventually go to 14 tooth sprocket? whats your rear sprocket size?
Thanks for the insight. I noticed that you live in California, if I'm correct? I want to modify my exhaust system. Where can I get the servo sub or something similar along with the fuel controller? Appreciate it.
Thanks for the info, I'm feeling more and more like there is really no such thing as a "dual sport", best you can get is 50% of both sides. I need two different bikes is what I need.
Hey I'm considering selling my TW200 and getting a WR but I was wondering if maintenance is as DIY friendly on the WR as my TW is. I love being able to do my own maintenance whenever possible. Great vid and tips on the best mods.
You definitely did not double your HP by adding a pipe, fuel tuner and airbox mod, I imagine several people have already mentioned this but I couldn't help but point it out. Stock HP is around 30, you probably added 3-4, if that, might be only 2.....
Do you get noise with the flatland skid plate? That problem has been mentioned more than a few times in reviews and forums. I think it is caused by the motor vibrating against the plate at certain rpms. I guess the problem would be similar on trail or street riding. I am trying to decide on which skid plate to get. The Moose skid plate made of a plastic type resin is said to not have that problem, but I have to wonder if it provides as much protection as aluminum.
You could put a piece of pipe insulation type foam or some kinda high heat foam between the skid plate and engine, and that would most likely help that problem.
gbtayc . I have a flatlands skid plate on mine and had the same issue, big noise blowing back on you. Took it to the local body shop and had them spray the inside (side closest to the motor) with spray-on bedliner. Took all the noise away.
thanks for posting , thinking about getting one, really wanted a yf450 on the street but georgia wont allow it , my buddy in texas has on & says its a blast . how do they compare ? (250 vs 450) thanks again
Hi Mrpeejer Going to buy the same bike just soon, and thinking on doing the same modification you have done, only question, do i need that Servo sub you got? or can i just have the same thats allready on?
if you leave the stock servo system for the exhaust you should be fine it just represents about 2% of the bikes weight at 7 pounds so it make sense to remove it. also makes for a cleaner look and makes it easier to work on the bike
I like the mods, but that smaller sprocket on the front is a bad idea. Chain will hit swing arm if you do some serious offroad shit. Go up one in front, and then gear it how you want it with the rear. I'm not just talking shit here, I've owned 2 of these bikes.
I really wish they made a larger displacement version of these bikes. The dr650's and xr650's are ugly as sin. I would love a wr250r, klx250s, or even crf250l with a 450cc motor. Ktm 500 exc is like the only attractive large displacement option but they want $10k for them!!!
Nick Wayerski small bore engine turbos aren't very easy to tune. Let alone are they very efficient for the space and weight they use. Slapping in a 450cc would be a million times more productive.
heloy Mrpeejer i have a queshtion, i have a wr250r 2010,after i removed al the all the:AIS,flapper,exup... how to of the check lamp that works now? sorry for my english :) and thanks!!!
The Wr250r has a weak spot, the chain eating through the rubber chain guides and into the swingarm at the front sprocket. Advrider has sick pics of this. A smaller front sprocket allegedly makes this problem worse.
From another post... Adding a tooth to the front does the opposite that adding a tooth to the back does. Larger sprocket at the front would decrease acceleration and increase top speed. Smaller sprocket at the front would increase acceleration and decrease top speed. Larger sprocket at the back would increase acceleration and decrease top speed. Smaller sprocket at the back would decrease acceleration and increase top speed. Take the front sprocket and divide it into the rear and that will give you the "gear" ratio. 35 / 10 = 3.5 The front sprocket turns 3.5 times every time the back turns once. Change the back sprocket to 40 and you get 4 to 1. For more acceleration you need a higher number. For more top speed lower.
Unless you must have a street legal bike, get a wr250f. The wr250r is ok for casual trail riding, but it is gutless, heavy and the suspension is a joke compared to a true offroad bike.
Just a note. It isn't HP that gets your front wheel off the ground. That would be torque. Once torque gets you moving HP becomes more relevant as you gain speed. HP is what allows you to keep up with traffic on the freeway. Torque is what gives you the grunt to hop over logs and rocks.
Nice overview : ) the exhaust piece is more like 7oz though... Those mechanical mods probably add 1-2 hp at the most. Keep in mind the Athena 290 bore only adds 7-8hp at the rear wheel. The "doubled" hp claim was a bit lofty and may or may not be misleading to a lot of potential WR owners..
Thanks for making this video. I didn't know the servo weighed so much.
One more quick tip for ya mate on the water pump hose I cut and cable tie an old hand grip around it for a bit more protection for the hose
I just got a mint 07 WR 450 , bought it to have a heavy practice bike while I race the YZ125 and YZ250 . I have to say this WR corners better than the YZ ... The Cornering is Amazing . I dont really feel the weight until I have to correct or dab ... I wouldnt race it b/c of the weight but it is definitely a 100% off road capable bike that Corners fantastic ! The WR is the only 4 stroke ive ever liked and i've rode many. btw, I have an m59 and 404 on it , not plated either
I don't want to sound too harsh. I've had mine for two seasons and it has never left me stranded (except for a flat tire) The 6 speed trans is a big benefit for gravel roads. It is an issue with all dual sports. The more riding you do, the more skilled you get. Then you just outgrow the bike.
I love the Dunlop D606s. Could not be happier with them either. They hookup great and don't wear too bad even on the highway plus you can lean it way over in the corners on the street. Normally not a huge Dunlop fan either... never tried the Mitases
It depends on your elevation. Normally if you increase the air you also need to increase the fuel to keep your air/fuel mix correct so the bikes doesn't run too lean. That's what the fuel injection programmer is for... adding more fuel.
This bike is amazing.
Just picked up one last night. Good mods!
Thank you. Considering buying current model. Awesome vid on mods mate.
Comfortable cruising speed is between 75MPH and 85MPH. I have some helmet camera videos posted that show the speedometer.
you need a turbo for TWICE THE POWER mate, that probably increases it 10 or so hp
I don't even shift into 6th gear until like 70 MPH on my WR250R.
Agreed with CaptTurbo, she will cruise at 65 MPH all day long.
I heard you should not drop the front sprocket teeth because the chain will rub against the swingarm, maybe just add teeth to rear sprocket
If you want a tire that will corner a little better offroad but still last on the street try the Michelin AC10, had one on my old street legal yz250 and now on my wr250f.
@Nicholas King i doubt it. I've had my 02 wr250 for about 9 years now and it barely ever needs a thing these bikes are tanks. the only thing i've had to do it replace spark plugs, clean the air filter (obviously) and clean the carb after long sits. this one not having a carb (i believe its fuel injected but he doesn't have the year listed) probably makes it even more bullet proof
Nice video. The NOR -CAL sticker where did you get that from. Looks nice on there. Good job on the video. Thank you for sharing
Great. Thanks for putting all these mods in one vid. How long are your 606s lasting?
great video! Thanks, cant wait to get to work!
Nice video, just bought one so many thanks for making this.
nice bike bro i jus got me 2012wr and this video an the links help alot
Great video!! I've been researching all the dual sports and I think this is the bike for me with the same mods you have done. Can it comfortably cruise down the highway at 65mph??
Does this make the bike less reliable?
Little late to respond. But if you're still wondering the FMF programmer lets you remap.
Now you got to make a video of you riding it wide open. My preferred view is the camera still while your at a motocross style track
Should do suspension mods first. Will make your bike much faster. Also, Id pick up a new case saver that doesn't just build up with dirt like the stock. Cant wait till I get around to getting that whale tail off my wr. Got a bit of other mods before that since its more cosmetic that anything. Think Im going to go with the edge as well.
The best mod for the bike is the Athena 290cc big bore cylinder kit by far : )
great vid mate very helpful. picking one up in 2-3 months, have you had the d606's on there for a while? how well do those knobs hold up to extended street use?
Nice video. Looks like you dropped some serious bucks to up the horsepower. Question, how are those tires in tight twisty turns on asphalt?
SO hows that 12 tooth sprocket going? Heard thata 12 tooth can eat the swing arm as well as stock. did you eventually go to 14 tooth sprocket? whats your rear sprocket size?
very impressive !!
Thanks for the vid.
Great info thanks man!
Nice bike dude. What kind of MPG are you getting after the mods?
you could just block of the vac hose with a screw to keep the flapper open if you didn't want to remove it.
Thanks for the insight. I noticed that you live in California, if I'm correct? I want to modify my exhaust system. Where can I get the servo sub or something similar along with the fuel controller? Appreciate it.
Taste full 👌
This is great
Thanks for the info, I'm feeling more and more like there is really no such thing as a "dual sport", best you can get is 50% of both sides. I need two different bikes is what I need.
great vid thanx
Was wondering if you got the FMF header too or just the exhaust? Thanks
Hey I'm considering selling my TW200 and getting a WR but I was wondering if maintenance is as DIY friendly on the WR as my TW is. I love being able to do my own maintenance whenever possible. Great vid and tips on the best mods.
what kind of mods can you do to gain performance / hp ?
1. exhaust
2. air filter
3. air box
4. fuel injection mode from fmf
5. ?
How abt Air Induction System removal? To be done along with exhaused replacement. Megabomb is also not bad to have.
I have basically the same mods and I get about 50 MPG (100 miles per 2 gallon tank).
Maybe a little more...
The servo can be fixed with a 50 cent resistor.
You definitely did not double your HP by adding a pipe, fuel tuner and airbox mod, I imagine several people have already mentioned this but I couldn't help but point it out. Stock HP is around 30, you probably added 3-4, if that, might be only 2.....
try some mt43 you will be pleasantly amazed in every way
Do you get noise with the flatland skid plate?
That problem has been mentioned more than a few times in reviews and forums.
I think it is caused by the motor vibrating against the plate at certain rpms. I guess the problem would be similar on trail or street riding. I am trying to decide on which skid plate to get. The Moose skid plate made of a plastic type resin is said to not have that problem, but I have to wonder if it provides as much protection as aluminum.
You could put a piece of pipe insulation type foam or some kinda high heat foam between the skid plate and engine, and that would most likely help that problem.
gbtayc . I have a flatlands skid plate on mine and had the same issue, big noise blowing back on you. Took it to the local body shop and had them spray the inside (side closest to the motor) with spray-on bedliner. Took all the noise away.
thanks for posting , thinking about getting one, really wanted a yf450 on the street but georgia wont allow it , my buddy in texas has on & says its a blast . how do they compare ? (250 vs 450)
thanks again
Hi Mrpeejer
Going to buy the same bike just soon, and thinking on doing the same modification you have done, only question, do i need that Servo sub you got? or can i just have the same thats allready on?
if you leave the stock servo system for the exhaust you should be fine it just represents about 2% of the bikes weight at 7 pounds so it make sense to remove it. also makes for a cleaner look and makes it easier to work on the bike
Thanks for answer :)
Noticed your key chain. Where did you buy your bike?
Was it difficult to remove the servo motor?
@MrPeejer Did you use the stock chain after putting the 12 tooth on?
Is this a joke? Exup servo weighs maybe .5 lbs. not 5-7. The gentleman maybe exaggerating the gains here.
Do you have full exhaust(with header) or just slip-on muffler? Why not fmf powercore?
hei! if i wanted only to remove the air filter cap do i have to change something in the injector and other stuffs, or i can just put it off and ride?
Q4 is a great exhaust.
How does this bike wheelie in stock form? If gear changes are made, what difference will that make?
P Banks easy ass 13-48 is great
I like the mods, but that smaller sprocket on the front is a bad idea. Chain will hit swing arm if you do some serious offroad shit. Go up one in front, and then gear it how you want it with the rear. I'm not just talking shit here, I've owned 2 of these bikes.
Agreed. I went to 14/50 in the sprockets. Heaps better and won't chew swing arms
I really wish they made a larger displacement version of these bikes. The dr650's and xr650's are ugly as sin. I would love a wr250r, klx250s, or even crf250l with a 450cc motor. Ktm 500 exc is like the only attractive large displacement option but they want $10k for them!!!
they sold wr450F's for a while i think they still do. its just the matter of doing a street conversion at that point
michael cianci They do still make the wr450f but doing the street conversion is allowed in all states. A 50 state legal 450 would be the shizz!
I'm with you there buddy yamaha should put something out to contend with the Ducati and Apirillia motards
Turbo charge it then you will have the power of a big bore.
Nick Wayerski small bore engine turbos aren't very easy to tune. Let alone are they very efficient for the space and weight they use. Slapping in a 450cc would be a million times more productive.
wouldn't the bike run lean since the big bore and stock efi?
heloy Mrpeejer i have a queshtion, i have a wr250r 2010,after i removed al the all the:AIS,flapper,exup... how to of the check lamp that works now? sorry for my english :) and thanks!!!
Sweet FoX swingarm stickers bruh! ..-_-
-1 for originality
The Wr250r has a weak spot, the chain eating through the rubber chain guides and into the swingarm at the front sprocket. Advrider has sick pics of this. A smaller front sprocket allegedly makes this problem worse.
+sethdog1000 Happens when you go with smaller front sprocket than 13T stock.
but bigger sprocket will quietly affect on the initial pickup.
have you added anything else?
@IFiTZYI probably because it requires a lot of maintenance
So you putted a smaller front sprocket and the accelerations are better????? I dont get it.
go study gearing
whoisanthony smaller gear means harder to rotate so is meant for higher speed not acceleration, you go study gearing
Marc-Antoine Lévesque Go use google and common sense, a smaller front sprocket increases acceleration, decreases top speed.
From another post...
Adding a tooth to the front does the opposite that adding a tooth to the back does.
Larger sprocket at the front would decrease acceleration and increase top speed.
Smaller sprocket at the front would increase acceleration and decrease top speed.
Larger sprocket at the back would increase acceleration and decrease top speed.
Smaller sprocket at the back would decrease acceleration and increase top speed.
Take the front sprocket and divide it into the rear and that will give you the "gear" ratio. 35 / 10 = 3.5 The front sprocket turns 3.5 times every time the back turns once. Change the back sprocket to 40 and you get 4 to 1. For more acceleration you need a higher number. For more top speed lower.
Thanks man. But still dont make sense to me haha
You can cruise 65 mph all day long without this bike breaking a sweat. Yes, I do own one.
14 tooth and 52 tooth pendejo 🤣
Hahahahahaha
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12t front sprocket is a very bad idea...better check your swing arm
Mx Hp?
Unless you must have a street legal bike, get a wr250f. The wr250r is ok for casual trail riding, but it is gutless, heavy and the suspension is a joke compared to a true offroad bike.
those 606 are terrible the knobbies break off in chunks i would not recommend the tires