Good job Paul! I was waiting for you to mention the previous cointelpro incident in CANADA!!! He couldn't dispute it!!! So..... CHANGE IT! How is it NOT systemic?
In Canada, everyone has the following fundamental rights & freedoms. A. Freedom of Conscience and Relogion. B. Freedom of thought, belief, opinion, and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication. C. Freedom of peaceful assembly. D. Freedom of association. Legal Rights Everyone has the right to life, liberty, and security of the person and the right not to be deprived thereof . Everyone has the right to be secure against unreasonable search or seizure
Miller is great. He managed to avoid getting snookered by Paul Jay's leading questions and attempts to pass off his opinions as facts. I hope he runs again.
I am a Toronto business owner, property owner and pay my taxes. I am not a left wing activist and until recently have been proud to call myself both a Canadian and a Torontonian. Today I am ashamed of my city and my country. Shame on you Harper; shame on you Miller; shame on you Toronto Police. Shame on you Canada if you do not stop this police state in its tracks before it's too late.
Yes Every official always has complete confidence in their police department. Every one has a different perspective on what constitutes excessive force by the police.
Also, Everyone has the right not to be arbitrarily detained or imprissoned. Everyone has the right on arrest or detention to be informed promptly of the reasons therefor to retain and instruct counsel without delay and to be informrd of that right and to have the validityof the detention determined by way of habius corpus and to be relaesed if the detention is not lawful. That is just part of the Canadian Charter or Rights and Freedoms. I have a copy in front of me.
@chocomalk or like people who take for granted just how unbelievably free and fortunate they are to live in canada because they've never actually lived under an oppressive government
@JWalls28 1) I don't know what that has to do with the issue of Paul Jay asking leading questions. 2) I mistyped; I should have said "I wish he would run again". I read the paper. Free speech is what allows G20 protesters to protest, Paul Jay to do his vidcasts, and me to "get on my soapbox".
@eslersi This kind of crap happens WHEREVER and WHENEVER a G20 or G8 or whatever meeting takes place. A bunch of thugs appear and starts riots.It is not just a Canadian thing.
I have not seen the video yet and I already know that the mayor will denied or have no knowledge of police beatings or he will say police were only defending themselves.
@bulldogger ...embrace these characterizations, thus removing any propaganda value they could offer the establishment in the future. After all, if everyday people identify with protesters, and participate in actions deemed terroristic, the establishment is exposed rendering the word meaningless.
@RyanDJamieson ...it lets the "other 12" talk to the 8. apparently there are more than 8 countries who'd like a say on global issues. the G20 allows developing nations to address issues of global finance and trade with the developed ones. the G20 provides needed counterbalance to international architecture otherwise dominated by the US. it's why george bush fought against the creation of the G20
1. $1 billion spent on security personnel, yet unable to protect their property i.e. unattended vehicles ? 2. around 19,000 police officers deployed for the g20 weekend , yet black bloc was still able to leave their mark & vandalize while cops had prior knowledge of their arrival ? 3. a rally in st.catharines at montebello park will be taking place on JULY 17(TODAY) to call for an public inquiry regardin the g20 summit thanks therealnews
@SocialistReign I agree with you that damaging property is vandalism, but why shy away from the establishments characterization it's violent? Is the state not violent? Are the police not violent? Is violence in the face of violence not justified? This characterization of protesters as violent is a part of a larger program of demonizing dissent. What are now referred to as anarchists, thugs, and the mob, will eventually be deemed terrorists; because of this I'd put forward we should...
Those politicians and those enforce them don't get it. Eventually they will become private citizens and these laws they come up with will come back and haunt them. They could be walking down the street and those laws will be used against them too. - karma - what goes around will come around
@nomed187 well, gee golly you gotta be pretty happy with yourself. Got me there! lol When talking about private property there is a difference between possession and ownership. In communism goods are distributed based on need but ppl still own goods. Exploitative private property is any property used to generate a profit such as a factory or any other workplace
Love the last question. Boom. 8))) And the answer. Especially a part about a democracy *)))))))))))))))) IT DOESN'T EXIST MR.MILLER. You should know that since you are a polititcian. lfmao
@2minstral try reading section ONE of the charter, or have you not read that far yet. you know, the part about reasonable limits.... then read the constitution and learn about municipal powers
@RyanDJamieson you realize, don't you, that your two sentences have nothing to do with each other, that you can still have the G20 and NOT spend/waste 1 billion for a meeting in toronto. maybe you should ask the indian or brazilian or south african PMs what they think about abolishing the G20, because they think it's a great idea
@chocomalk no, the issue at hand is if we live in an increasingly fascists police state and if the law giving police temporary powers to arrest people coming within 5 meters of a barricade encircling a few blocks supports this claim. both fail. canadians have no problem with this. it's only a very small minority of anti-capitalist protesters looking for a fight who do
Wow. I never comment, but this journalist steps all over the interview subject. I find that annoying and rude! David Miller seems very patient. Edits are also abrupt and camera movement is jarring too.
This is a good example of gov't BS wasting money and peoples' time. This whole event is a massive charade, over-the-top waste which made no sense locally or globally. PLEASE GOV'T SHUTDOWN YOUR BS ALREADY !!!
@2minstral "reasonable limits justified in a democratic society" exactly. funny but 99.999999% of canadians have no problem with the police beating the heads of a few hundred squeegee kids looking for a fight
Does anyone else just feel kind of personally hurt by what Miller was saying? I voted for that guy... twice. I thought he was legit. It's like he let me down. Very disappointing.
"Apparently" you throw that word around like you were not even there. However when you describe your reporter being struck the word "apparently" is not used. Clearly biased reporting.... The real story here is the Mayor finding time to talk to such an amature garage level apparently news service.
excuse me? if im the stalker how come i made my first comment here THREE days ago (having an exchange with several people) while you made your first comment here TWO days ago, the point of which was to insult me. this is not the first time you've done this, where ive made a comment and later, out of nowhere, you make a comment calling me a freak or something. let's get the facts straight - you are the freak who sent me your picture and personal info. i then blocked you. and now im reporting you
you call anarcist i call under cover to justfi needless vilence against people that have the bully like mantality ya you seen how they police go down to cherry beech and see toronto finest
Miller is great. He managed to avoid getting snookered by Paul Jay's leading questions and attempts to pass off his opinions as facts. I hope he runs again.
Mr. Jay did an excellent interview, he really put the screws to Mayor Miller. I rarely see this kind of bold journalism, especially in the US.
Great job real news!! you rock j
good questions were addressed good job the real news
Yes, very good interview...
Good job Paul! I was waiting for you to mention the previous cointelpro incident in CANADA!!! He couldn't dispute it!!! So..... CHANGE IT! How is it NOT systemic?
In Canada, everyone has the following fundamental rights & freedoms.
A. Freedom of Conscience and Relogion.
B. Freedom of thought, belief, opinion, and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication.
C. Freedom of peaceful assembly.
D. Freedom of association.
Legal Rights
Everyone has the right to life, liberty, and security of the person and the right not to be deprived thereof .
Everyone has the right to be secure against unreasonable search or seizure
Miller is great. He managed to avoid getting snookered by Paul Jay's leading questions and attempts to pass off his opinions as facts. I hope he runs again.
I am a Toronto business owner, property owner and pay my taxes. I am not a left wing activist and until recently have been proud to call myself both a Canadian and a Torontonian.
Today I am ashamed of my city and my country. Shame on you Harper; shame on you Miller; shame on you Toronto Police. Shame on you Canada if you do not stop this police state in its tracks before it's too late.
keep up the good work paul
great interview
the toronto police showed remarkable restraint, and should be commended
Yes Every official always has complete confidence in their police department. Every one has a different perspective on what constitutes excessive force by the police.
Also,
Everyone has the right not to be arbitrarily detained or imprissoned.
Everyone has the right on arrest or detention to be informed promptly of the reasons therefor to retain and instruct counsel without delay and to be informrd of that right and to have the validityof the detention determined by way of habius corpus and to be relaesed if the detention is not lawful.
That is just part of the Canadian Charter or Rights and Freedoms. I have a copy in front of me.
@chocomalk
or like people who take for granted just how unbelievably free and fortunate they are to live in canada because they've never actually lived under an oppressive government
Demand A Public Inquiry!
I feel the heavy hand of Steven Harper behind this
@JWalls28
1) I don't know what that has to do with the issue of Paul Jay asking leading questions.
2) I mistyped; I should have said "I wish he would run again".
I read the paper. Free speech is what allows G20 protesters to protest, Paul Jay to do his vidcasts, and me to "get on my soapbox".
I'll miss Miller.
This video makes me appreciate the Vuvuzela button.
@eslersi This kind of crap happens WHEREVER and WHENEVER a G20 or G8 or whatever meeting takes place. A bunch of thugs appear and starts riots.It is not just a Canadian thing.
Conclusion: City, province and federal politicians do not have their act together. Just the police.
I have not seen the video yet and I already know that the mayor will denied or have no knowledge of police beatings or he will say police were only defending themselves.
Get into your free speach zone prol!
@bulldogger ...embrace these characterizations, thus removing any propaganda value they could offer the establishment in the future. After all, if everyday people identify with protesters, and participate in actions deemed terroristic, the establishment is exposed rendering the word meaningless.
paul jay is a good guy
@RyanDJamieson
...it lets the "other 12" talk to the 8. apparently there are more than 8 countries who'd like a say on global issues. the G20 allows developing nations to address issues of global finance and trade with the developed ones. the G20 provides needed counterbalance to international architecture otherwise dominated by the US. it's why george bush fought against the creation of the G20
So thay have 2 police departments. Where did the good police go during the g20
1. $1 billion spent on security personnel, yet unable to protect their property i.e. unattended vehicles ?
2. around 19,000 police officers deployed for the g20 weekend , yet black bloc was still able to leave their mark & vandalize while cops had prior knowledge of their arrival ?
3. a rally in st.catharines at montebello park will be taking place on JULY 17(TODAY) to call for an public inquiry regardin the g20 summit
thanks therealnews
@tlndofa Oh come on. These types of incidents would happen if he was there or not. It happened during Bush's PRESENCE too.
end private property
@SocialistReign I agree with you that damaging property is vandalism, but why shy away from the establishments characterization it's violent? Is the state not violent? Are the police not violent? Is violence in the face of violence not justified? This characterization of protesters as violent is a part of a larger program of demonizing dissent. What are now referred to as anarchists, thugs, and the mob, will eventually be deemed terrorists; because of this I'd put forward we should...
Those politicians and those enforce them don't get it. Eventually they will become private citizens and these laws they come up with will come back and haunt them. They could be walking down the street and those laws will be used against them too.
- karma
- what goes around will come around
@Valdris1987 does the free world feel so free anymore.
@nomed187 well, gee golly you gotta be pretty happy with yourself. Got me there! lol
When talking about private property there is a difference between possession and ownership. In communism goods are distributed based on need but ppl still own goods. Exploitative private property is any property used to generate a profit such as a factory or any other workplace
Love the last question. Boom. 8))) And the answer. Especially a part about a democracy *)))))))))))))))) IT DOESN'T EXIST MR.MILLER. You should know that since you are a polititcian. lfmao
@nomed187 I do not own exploitative private property
So evasive, how typical of modern politicians. A straight answer would be nice for a change.
I never thought of peaceful protest as descent, interesting labelling going on by the power mongers
@2minstral
try reading section ONE of the charter, or have you not read that far yet. you know, the part about reasonable limits....
then read the constitution and learn about municipal powers
@prjctcivilian you are free to give yours up first, really, take all your money and send it to my paypal account
Gosh, I guess Canada is a police state just like the U.S.
@RyanDJamieson
you realize, don't you, that your two sentences have nothing to do with each other, that you can still have the G20 and NOT spend/waste 1 billion for a meeting in toronto.
maybe you should ask the indian or brazilian or south african PMs what they think about abolishing the G20, because they think it's a great idea
@chocomalk
no, the issue at hand is if we live in an increasingly fascists police state and if the law giving police temporary powers to arrest people coming within 5 meters of a barricade encircling a few blocks supports this claim. both fail. canadians have no problem with this. it's only a very small minority of anti-capitalist protesters looking for a fight who do
and in case you haven't noticed, your comments keep getting removed. maybe you aren't wanted here
Miller just got f'd in the a by mr Paul Jay!!
Wow. I never comment, but this journalist steps all over the interview subject. I find that annoying and rude! David Miller seems very patient. Edits are also abrupt and camera movement is jarring too.
This is a good example of gov't BS wasting money and peoples' time. This whole event is a massive charade, over-the-top waste which made no sense locally or globally.
PLEASE GOV'T SHUTDOWN YOUR BS ALREADY !!!
@2minstral
"reasonable limits justified in a democratic society"
exactly. funny but 99.999999% of canadians have no problem with the police beating the heads of a few hundred squeegee kids looking for a fight
Does anyone else just feel kind of personally hurt by what Miller was saying? I voted for that guy... twice. I thought he was legit. It's like he let me down. Very disappointing.
@mrblue911 don't tell me your sticking up for those sorry excuse for cops
@nomed187 hahaha I grew up in same situation 8)))
LET'S FIGHT TO END CAPITALISM ........ by watching videos on youtube in front of our expensive computers. busted
"Apparently" you throw that word around like you were not even there. However when you describe your reporter being struck the word "apparently" is not used. Clearly biased reporting.... The real story here is the Mayor finding time to talk to such an amature garage level apparently news service.
Yoo hoo, hello ! The black block is paid by the police, ok ? Understood? yes? good !
excuse me? if im the stalker how come i made my first comment here THREE days ago (having an exchange with several people) while you made your first comment here TWO days ago, the point of which was to insult me. this is not the first time you've done this, where ive made a comment and later, out of nowhere, you make a comment calling me a freak or something. let's get the facts straight - you are the freak who sent me your picture and personal info. i then blocked you. and now im reporting you
What a waste of money... let another country host the g20.
you call anarcist i call under cover to justfi needless vilence against people that have the bully like mantality ya you seen how they police go down to cherry beech and see toronto finest
Miller is great. He managed to avoid getting snookered by Paul Jay's leading questions and attempts to pass off his opinions as facts. I hope he runs again.