im getting a sony camera and from all videos from youtube, chris is my choice due to his calming voice and his outstanding quality and unbiased and informative videos
Thank you for another great video Christopher. I have always used your reviews as My base when thinking of buying New gear. I own a a6400 that I have spoiled with the Laowa 9mm f2.8, Sigma 16mm f1.4, Tamron 11-20mm f 2.8, Tamron 17-70mm f2.8 and Sony 70-350mm f 4.5-6.3 - still missing Sigma 56mm f1.4 and Laowa 65mm f2.8 (macro). I also have a fullframe lineup for My Sony a7iii and Sony a7riii. So hitting your UA-cam channel Mr. Frost have been an expensive experience. But your recommondations have never failed. They are just spot on.
I think you should've mentioned the Sony 55-210mm lens in the first section considering it's one of the best value for money lenses on the Sony E mount if you get one used (from ebay or elsewhere). I've seen it go for 100$, for a sharp lens with optical stabilization, that's a steal!
Because of your vids I got an A5000 as a b camera for my A7RIV after my phone Camera broke. But I love my Zeiss 55mm on it, it fits the camera perfectly and I can still fit it in my pocket! I know it's full frame but the crop makes it a nice 85mm equivalent
That 55 1.8 is a great lens, just like the Sony/Zeiss 35 2.8. The latter is the equal of the 55 2.8, however it seems largely ignored. Superb imaging quality, small compact size and, for me, the ideal street and general use lens. Don't understand why it is so largely ignored?
One problem with video like this, that it's produced by profession photographers. But sony apsc system is mainly usedby amateurs, casual man, that migrate from smartphone and need versatile and compact system. Professionals concentrate on technical characteristics like sharpness from corner to corner and ignore size and weight. Inspired by video like this, for example I made mistake choice some time ago - buy sigma 16f.4 for low light. Really it's very good lense, but I don't use it, because of it's size and weight I don't carry it with me. So, universal lenses for amateurs must be compact, light, have universal zoom range, optical quality not critical at all (it's not a microscope) and most important - OSS. IMO, OSS is more important for universal walk around travel zoom lenses than f2.8. Hyped zoom lenses with F2.8 don't work in low light, because on APSC camera one stop doesn't really help, but OSS really give 3-4 stops and it's enough for late evening stills in most travel scenes (static scenes, architecture). For dynamic low light scenes F2.8 don't help, primes F1.8 and faster must be. So I upgrade from kit to Sony 16-70f4 OSS - it's really the best universal compact glass from sunrise to dusk. 18-135 OSS also good choice, but it size is huge, for me size is matters.
I have the Sony OSS 18-200mm zoom lens. It's pretty good, but very bread and butter. I use it for corporate interview work. Not much barrel distortion at 18mm. 🙂 It came as a kit lens with my FS100. Which I love to bits (Super 35 sensor - takes APS-C lenses well).
Fantastic run down Christopher, and well explained as it's easy to get bogged down in camera terminology that isn't familiar to newer users. Sony APS-C camera offer a lot more than just a 'beginner' experience these days!
As always awesome content, very simple, straight forward, organized even with putting a lot of lenses to compare in an single video. Really appreciate your effort making these videos, the are super helpful and mindful. Big thanks and regards!!
From a long follower, I got the a7r new when it came out but there was no wide lenses so i got the 20mm f2.8 pancake APSC lens and use crop mode, with 36MP I accepted the loss it involved. It brought the images back to APSC MB resolution. The lens is tiny and can delivers excellent results on my a6000. I have the Sigma trio but I choose the Sony 20mm against the fabulous, big and heavy Sigma 16mm for fun shooting.
hey Christopher, thanks a lot for this huge and general review =) i have the 18-105 PZ on my a6000, that's a perfect and wonderful lens à bring everywhere i go when i use my a6000, great light capture ^^
Superb main idea for such material: 4 avenues. Almost every blog about "kit replacement" suggest only direct solutions, slightly better zooms. I real life, many of kit-users one year later changed their thinking
a lot of options lots of great value, still getting the feeling its always best to save for as long as possible and ball out on the mid-high end gear to never be limited
Shooting Sony A6300 & SEL 16-50 & SEL 55-210 since August 2018. I´m very ready to replace both of these lenses because both aren´t really sharp or fast. Tamron 18-300 would be amazing for aircraft spotting which I do mostly. Sigma 15-50 mm looks like a great replacement for SEL 16-50!
Recently Sony and other manufacturers have spoilt us really with e mount lenses. I shoot currently with a A6300 and astro modded A6500. Just recently sold quite few lenses (my beloved Ziess Touit 12mm and the 50mm f1.8 amongst them) and moved onto to newer FE glass including the new Samyang 135mm f1.8. Maybe some do think it's a waste to put a FE lens on an aps-c but as I shoot mainly astro and aurora the 135mm and 14mm GM are my new astro wide and narrow lenses and it's where I really need a technically great lens. I then keep the 10-18mm F4 /18-105 f4 and the 70-350mm f4.5-6.3 in my bag to cover most focal lengths for landscape photography.
Great video as usual. The Tamron 18-200 is now on clearance for $400 here in the US, so it's now fairly reasonable priced for a super zoom with all its compromises. I've really enjoyed the Sony full frame 50mm 2.8 Macro lens on my a6600. Had the Sigma 18-50 2.8 been available a couple years ago, I may have gone that route over the 50mm macro since the little Sigma can still focus fairly closely. However, the Sony 50mm macro will work on a full frame body if I upgrade in the future. I've also been impressed with how well the Sony 70-350 G and Sigma 100-400 handle on the A6600, so one of those will be my next lens. Perhaps you could do a part 2 of this video exploring macro/semi-macro, longer telephoto, and include FE lenses that are equally at home on the APS-C bodies.
Great video as always!!! I have a A6600 and I’m currently using the Tamron 17-70 f2.8 which is awesome. Sigma 16, and I just got the Viltrox 56 f1.4 which is surprisingly awesome. Next stop is something in the 300mm range.
If you search something in the 300mms there is no better lens than the sony 70-350. I own it and cant recommend it enough. Its incredible in every way: - incredible sharpness at all focal lengths wide open, except at 350mm (stop down to f8 for extreme perfect sharpness there) - good minimum focus distance, Butterflys and larger insects can be easily photohraphed - super lightweight for what it is (a fullframe 525mm equivalent which weighs about 600g) - the weather sealing ks no joke. I took my a6400 with the sony 70-350 out at temperatures below -10degrees, it was snowing, I had no protection and yet it just performed awesome as always ! - the autofucs is stellar! I can focus through extremly narrow trees with the fitting af mode👍 - it is black, which helps to stay incognito in comparison to all white full frame tele lenses - I got it new for under 500€ because of sonys cashback action One bonus tip: I used to have a "cheaper" lens filter for protection which led to lines in the bokeh on this lens. Better buy a better one if you want smooth blur with clean bokeh. If you have any question concerning this lens feel free to ask. I would like to ask you: Do you think the Tamron 17-70 is light enough to use it as everyday lens or do you think it is too heavy. And: How do you like the vc stabilization for video - is it a huge improvement vs a non stabilized lens like the sigma 16mm ?
The way I went was buy a 50mm 1.4, then 20mm 1.4, 135mm 1.8, 35mm 1.4 and 85mm 1.8. All fullframe. If I would do things over I would start with the new 35-150mm 2-2.8 from Tamron and that's it lol. Maybe upgrade with a 200-600mm and supplement with a 85mm 1.4 for portraits. The 85mm 1.8 is nice and light but the background is usually too busy compared to my 135mm 1.8.
I went the primes route with the Sony 16mm f2.8, 30mm f3.5 macro, 50mm f1.8 OSS, the Viltrox 23mm f1.4, and the 7artisans 7.5mm f2.8 fisheye. My a6300 came to me with the 18-105mm f4 power zoom and the 55-210mm Sony kit zoom. Thanks for the great lens reviews, I always check your channel before buying a lens.
Lieber Herr Kollege Frost, Ihre Reviews sind für mich erste Wahl und sehr zuverlässig! Das was Sie aussagen trifft genau auf den Punkt! Da England ja auch wenn es aus der EU ausgetreten ist, dennoch ein Teil Europas ist, (im Gegenteil zu Amerika) und auch die Europäer in der Regel - oder mittlerweile gut englisch verstehen/sprechen (daher der Kommentar auf deutsch😅) wäre es schön auch die Europreise zu verwenden. In English: Dear colleague Frost, your reviews are my first choice and very reliable! What you say is spot on! Since England, even though it has left the EU, is still part of Europe (in contrast to America) and the Europeans usually - or meanwhile understand/speak English well (hence the above comment is in German😅), it would be nice also ad the euro prices.
Didn't expect this perspective, but I like it! Your videos are really good ! I have a Sony a6400 and bought a sigma 56 and th sony 70-350, also because of your reviews. Now Im super indecisive if I first buy the Tamron 11-20 or the Tamron 17-70/sigma 18-50 There are so many nice options on sony apsc, what I would love to see in future would be a lens like 12-30 or something like that. I wouldnt really care about the fstop, I just would love to have the flexibility of having a lens which can do ultra wide, wide and portrait with reasonable blur. Though I think this is physically pretty hard to build - one can dream though 😅 And the lens I would look forward most to would be an apsc super telephoto lens. I would love to see something with more reach than the 70-350 optimized for apsc or a 300mm focal length with a better aperture. Im really hyped for the future and hope Sony wont be lazy and brings out a new apsc this or next year. Thanks for reading, have nice day
Like yourself I have the 6400 and 70 to 350.....i got the 17 70 Tamron 2.8 and to be honest, best image quality ive seen on my photography journey. Go for it. Then you have 17 to 350 range over just 2 lenses.
@@Badonicus I have missed the Tamron... Think I have to go take a look as it sounds like the perfect travel lens. (I have the sony 18-135 but it is too dark for me... The f2.8 on the Tamron is what makes it very tempting)
The 16-50mm 2.8 "basic b***h" kit lens is low key one of the best lens for the E mount. Its overlooked advantage is portability. Throw it onto a A5000/6000 series or even a A7/R/S series and you have a portable camera that can rival any compact camera with more functionality than any of them. I also think that the best overall lens for the APS-C E mount system is the Sony 35mm f1.8. Its may not be quite as sharp as the sigma 30 at f1.4 but its much more compact, the autofocus is smoother/faster/quieter, much more compact & lighter and the lens is stabilised, which IMHO gives the overall win to the Sony.
Ha... I was thinking the same thing! well, more like "the hands" have a face! Love your expert commentary and reviews Pastor Chris! I've made many a lens choice based upon your reviews and guidance! You are truly a blessing to us here at Charis Bible College in the US!
In terms of native E-mount lenses, I was always happy with the Sony G 18-105mm F4, Sigma C 30mm F1.4 and Samyang 12mm F2. I use another mount as well now and I can adapt (and I know that's not the point of this video) Sigma 18-35mm F1.8 and Sigma 50-100mm F1.8 among other lenses.
Great video!! I'm sure I've watched at close to 60-80 of your videos as I have bought/sold and changed systems .. My first mirrorless digital camera was the Sony NEX-6 with the older kit zoom. You were right,,most Sony APS-C primes were not good -- The 16mm was not sharp at any setting--I tried 3 copies. Although you alluded to them ,,I'm surprised you didn't mention the Sigma primes specifically-- especially the 19mm, 30mm, and the 60mm 2.8s. Really great lenses for the price and, of course, the 3 1.4 lenses are even better--although 3 times more. Had the newer zooms you mentioned come out earlier I might have had more faith in the Sony crop sensor line up. As it was in 2016ish,,I left for the Panasonic Leica lenses in Micro 4/3s..
Talking head, Very good i love this presentation. Sony clear image zoom ( extra zoom for free ) i am an airplane spotter and need all the zoom i can get, I always shoot RAW but if there is no money at the moment we can use the free option. It is only in JPEG so you loose a lot quality but if a very rare airplane comes by any picture is better then no picture. Would you agree ?
As usual;. a stand out review. It certainly assists given that you have owned a small Sony apsc for some years". I just find the extra heft, yes, it is minimal compared to putting a FF 70-200 2.8 IS on my a64000 ( and the a6000 that is just too competent, apart from IAF to sell), compared to the relatively recently released Sigma 18-50 2.8. Also agree, the native Sony 50 1.8 OSS is a one of the very, very few value for money lens for the Sony apsc line up. I like shooting landscape type shots, and given the relative lack of decent glass ( not a fan of the Song 10-18), I just use my enduring and menu friendly Canon 6D with Canon L wide angle glass and several third party primes. All in all, excellent and value focused round up.
Interesting to watch this a year later. What you suggest is still viable but there have been a great range of news lens out this year as well - Sigma 10-18 & 23, Sony 11 & 15, Viltrox 27 & 75 1.2 Pro Lens just for starters! And the Viltrox 13mm did come out on Sony E so good call there. It's just giving me headache now just deciding which lens to get next!!
I recently got the Samyang 12mm f2 (manual version) as a local retailer (Bol, kind of like dutch amazon) sells them for €196 new. Couldn't let that pass and I'm so in love with it. I thought it might be too wide for me, but it's a lot of fun and very dramatic.
I went down road three and got the Sony E 50mm 1.8 OSS. It was a toss-up between that and the Sigma 56mm before deciding the OSS and autofocus trumped the extra sharpness and build.
If you are on the cheap, get an adapter. If you have lenses from a DSLR system, you will find an adapter. Dumb adapters are just a spacer and a mount usually cheap, get one that is metal. Autofocus adapters are more expensive and usually list compatible lenses. Worth it if you have lenses. I got a viltrox autofocus adapter for Nikon. All af-s and af-c lenses, including my sigmas work pretty good. You won't have native zoom performance for sure, but with my nikor 35mm dx, nikor 50mm fx or af-s 24-70 2.8 I've only had a little more hunting than I would natively. You won't get autofocus in video mode, thought. Which is no problem thanks to the great live focus peaking. I've got dumb adapters as well which all work wonder for manual focus lenses.
i got my viltrox 23mm 1.4 for my a5100, its crazy there is 13mm 1.4 out now hahaha, i still use my kit lens in other situations when i need the adjustable zoom
I have it. It’s excellent, but it, along with the 16-55 G lens are more pro level, both quite expensive and probably not the first step to upgrading your Sony APS-C kit lens.
Sony APS-C needs a COMPACT quality 23mm f2 (35mm equivalent) and 18mm f2 (28mm equivalent) small everyday carry lenses that can compete with Fuji and the Leica CL...We've been waiting 10 years.
I have a 16-70 or so MM Zeiss... but sadly I can't get an aperture below f/4 and there's some edge barrel roundness but my real chore is the focus (old camera -6000 instead of 6100) has some focus issues where I'll be stuck having to snap multiple photos of the same scene to get some non blurred shots. The one you literally called terrible :(
I'm very surprised you didn't include the Sony E 35mm f/1.8 OSS, my second-favourite ASP-C lens only to the Sigma 56mm. I find the rendering much nicer than the Sigma 30, it has OSS, the chromatic aberration is better controlled, and the autofocus is in a different league entirely, esp. in low light (and yes, commenters, I've got the firmware update). It isn't quite as sharp, which maybe explains its absence, though I've never been disappointed.
I had Sony 35f1.8 for few months and only point I agree with you is fast AF. Also compact size is positive of this lens. I sold it early, because I didn't like rendering at f1.8-f2.4, which is kind of bad at fast prime. I can compare only with absolutely stunning Sigma 56, which also have aberations much better corrected. I had Sigma 30mm only for a few days from my friend, but I would definitely prefer Sigma (for photo shooting).
Also a big fan of the 35mm f/1.8 OSS! I prefer the wider field of view as compared to the Sony 50mm, and I love the creative mood I get when I have to zoom with my feet. Besides the kit, the other lens I own is the Sigma 18-50mm f/2.8 which I can also recommend.
I am wondering if the old sony 18-135mm le lens still can resolve good combine with sony A7cr w 601mp .for travel than tamron 28-200mm lens .Thanks for your expertie comment .
Hello Chris! what macro lens (not so highly priced) for taking video of insects would you recommend for a sony a6400? I've seen a lot of reviews but they're more focused on still objects or photos, but what about small moving creatures captured in video? :D Thank you!!!!
I have Sony and Canon APSC. Lens price / quality and availability is better in Canon, when buying old EF lenses. There are crazy opportunities in used market in EF lenses.
Why is the Sigma 18-50/2.8 not being included into this List? For 500 bucks, it's the best APS-C Zoom lens, in terms of price & performance, -size. Much better than the Sony "Zeiss" 16-70/F4 ZA, for real. Greetings.
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I love my Sony 70-350 OSS! so great for birds, wildlife, and closeups of landscapes
im getting a sony camera and from all videos from youtube, chris is my choice due to his calming voice and his outstanding quality and unbiased and informative videos
I could watch and hear Christopher all day long. thanks
Good to finally put a face on the voice Chris !!!!!!! 🤝
Good to meet you face to face finally. You help me a lot when selecting lenses. 🙏
Great to see you again in front of the camera. Love your videos!
Thank you for another great video Christopher. I have always used your reviews as My base when thinking of buying New gear. I own a a6400 that I have spoiled with the Laowa 9mm f2.8, Sigma 16mm f1.4, Tamron 11-20mm f 2.8, Tamron 17-70mm f2.8 and Sony 70-350mm f 4.5-6.3 - still missing Sigma 56mm f1.4 and Laowa 65mm f2.8 (macro). I also have a fullframe lineup for My Sony a7iii and Sony a7riii. So hitting your UA-cam channel Mr. Frost have been an expensive experience. But your recommondations have never failed. They are just spot on.
Which are your favourite ones amongst these?
I think you should've mentioned the Sony 55-210mm lens in the first section considering it's one of the best value for money lenses on the Sony E mount if you get one used (from ebay or elsewhere). I've seen it go for 100$, for a sharp lens with optical stabilization, that's a steal!
Second for this. I bought one on ebay for 65 dollars.
The best lens reviewer of all time!
Because of your vids I got an A5000 as a b camera for my A7RIV after my phone Camera broke. But I love my Zeiss 55mm on it, it fits the camera perfectly and I can still fit it in my pocket! I know it's full frame but the crop makes it a nice 85mm equivalent
That 55 1.8 is a great lens, just like the Sony/Zeiss 35 2.8.
The latter is the equal of the 55 2.8, however it seems largely ignored. Superb imaging quality, small compact size and, for me, the ideal street and general use lens. Don't understand why it is so largely ignored?
Great video and we finally get to see you! Yay! I have the Sigma 18-50, Tamron 11-20 and the Sony 70-350 for my A6600. That pretty much covers it.
The Sony 16-55 mm F2.8 G is a fantastic lens and it can be found used in mint condition under 700,- € meanwhile.. ;)
One problem with video like this, that it's produced by profession photographers. But sony apsc system is mainly usedby amateurs, casual man, that migrate from smartphone and need versatile and compact system. Professionals concentrate on technical characteristics like sharpness from corner to corner and ignore size and weight.
Inspired by video like this, for example I made mistake choice some time ago - buy sigma 16f.4 for low light. Really it's very good lense, but I don't use it, because of it's size and weight I don't carry it with me.
So, universal lenses for amateurs must be compact, light, have universal zoom range, optical quality not critical at all (it's not a microscope) and most important - OSS. IMO, OSS is more important for universal walk around travel zoom lenses than f2.8. Hyped zoom lenses with F2.8 don't work in low light, because on APSC camera one stop doesn't really help, but OSS really give 3-4 stops and it's enough for late evening stills in most travel scenes (static scenes, architecture). For dynamic low light scenes F2.8 don't help, primes F1.8 and faster must be.
So I upgrade from kit to Sony 16-70f4 OSS - it's really the best universal compact glass from sunrise to dusk. 18-135 OSS also good choice, but it size is huge, for me size is matters.
I have the Sony OSS 18-200mm zoom lens. It's pretty good, but very bread and butter. I use it for corporate interview work.
Not much barrel distortion at 18mm. 🙂 It came as a kit lens with my FS100. Which I love to bits (Super 35 sensor - takes APS-C lenses well).
Fantastic run down Christopher, and well explained as it's easy to get bogged down in camera terminology that isn't familiar to newer users. Sony APS-C camera offer a lot more than just a 'beginner' experience these days!
Finally, good to see you!
As always awesome content, very simple, straight forward, organized even with putting a lot of lenses to compare in an single video. Really appreciate your effort making these videos, the are super helpful and mindful. Big thanks and regards!!
Uhhoh! I bought my first upgrade lens for my sony a6000 yesterday a sony 90mmMacro 2.8..i love taking macro and portrait
Could have used this a while ago. Should be very helpful to the beginner. Well done.
From a long follower, I got the a7r new when it came out but there was no wide lenses so i got the 20mm f2.8 pancake APSC lens and use crop mode, with 36MP I accepted the loss it involved. It brought the images back to APSC MB resolution. The lens is tiny and can delivers excellent results on my a6000. I have the Sigma trio but I choose the Sony 20mm against the fabulous, big and heavy Sigma 16mm for fun shooting.
hey Christopher, thanks a lot for this huge and general review =)
i have the 18-105 PZ on my a6000, that's a perfect and wonderful lens à bring everywhere i go when i use my a6000, great light capture ^^
Superb main idea for such material: 4 avenues. Almost every blog about "kit replacement" suggest only direct solutions, slightly better zooms. I real life, many of kit-users one year later changed their thinking
a lot of options lots of great value, still getting the feeling its always best to save for as long as possible and ball out on the mid-high end gear to never be limited
Shooting Sony A6300 & SEL 16-50 & SEL 55-210 since August 2018. I´m very ready to replace both of these lenses because both aren´t really sharp or fast. Tamron 18-300 would be amazing for aircraft spotting which I do mostly. Sigma 15-50 mm looks like a great replacement for SEL 16-50!
Recently Sony and other manufacturers have spoilt us really with e mount lenses.
I shoot currently with a A6300 and astro modded A6500.
Just recently sold quite few lenses (my beloved Ziess Touit 12mm and the 50mm f1.8 amongst them) and moved onto to newer FE glass including the new Samyang 135mm f1.8. Maybe some do think it's a waste to put a FE lens on an aps-c but as I shoot mainly astro and aurora the 135mm and 14mm GM are my new astro wide and narrow lenses and it's where I really need a technically great lens.
I then keep the 10-18mm F4 /18-105 f4 and the 70-350mm f4.5-6.3 in my bag to cover most focal lengths for landscape photography.
Great video as usual. The Tamron 18-200 is now on clearance for $400 here in the US, so it's now fairly reasonable priced for a super zoom with all its compromises. I've really enjoyed the Sony full frame 50mm 2.8 Macro lens on my a6600. Had the Sigma 18-50 2.8 been available a couple years ago, I may have gone that route over the 50mm macro since the little Sigma can still focus fairly closely. However, the Sony 50mm macro will work on a full frame body if I upgrade in the future. I've also been impressed with how well the Sony 70-350 G and Sigma 100-400 handle on the A6600, so one of those will be my next lens. Perhaps you could do a part 2 of this video exploring macro/semi-macro, longer telephoto, and include FE lenses that are equally at home on the APS-C bodies.
As long as it has VC the tamron is alright
Great video as always!!! I have a A6600 and I’m currently using the Tamron 17-70 f2.8 which is awesome. Sigma 16, and I just got the Viltrox 56 f1.4 which is surprisingly awesome. Next stop is something in the 300mm range.
If you search something in the 300mms there is no better lens than the sony 70-350.
I own it and cant recommend it enough. Its incredible in every way:
- incredible sharpness at all focal lengths wide open, except at 350mm (stop down to f8 for extreme perfect sharpness there)
- good minimum focus distance, Butterflys and larger insects can be easily photohraphed
- super lightweight for what it is (a fullframe 525mm equivalent which weighs about 600g)
- the weather sealing ks no joke. I took my a6400 with the sony 70-350 out at temperatures below -10degrees, it was snowing, I had no protection and yet it just performed awesome as always !
- the autofucs is stellar! I can focus through extremly narrow trees with the fitting af mode👍
- it is black, which helps to stay incognito in comparison to all white full frame tele lenses
- I got it new for under 500€ because of sonys cashback action
One bonus tip:
I used to have a "cheaper" lens filter for protection which led to lines in the bokeh on this lens. Better buy a better one if you want smooth blur with clean bokeh.
If you have any question concerning this lens feel free to ask.
I would like to ask you: Do you think the Tamron 17-70 is light enough to use it as everyday lens or do you think it is too heavy. And: How do you like the vc stabilization for video - is it a huge improvement vs a non stabilized lens like the sigma 16mm ?
how come you didn't went with the sigma 56mm 1.4 instead of the viltrox? the sharpest lens in this system
@@IliasKoureas I was going to but I got it for 150 bucks I was like hmmmmmm let’s try it.
@@agentjtravel_walkthru4205 makes sense. For 150 bucks its a steal
The way I went was buy a 50mm 1.4, then 20mm 1.4, 135mm 1.8, 35mm 1.4 and 85mm 1.8. All fullframe. If I would do things over I would start with the new 35-150mm 2-2.8 from Tamron and that's it lol. Maybe upgrade with a 200-600mm and supplement with a 85mm 1.4 for portraits. The 85mm 1.8 is nice and light but the background is usually too busy compared to my 135mm 1.8.
I went the primes route with the Sony 16mm f2.8, 30mm f3.5 macro, 50mm f1.8 OSS, the Viltrox 23mm f1.4, and the 7artisans 7.5mm f2.8 fisheye. My a6300 came to me with the 18-105mm f4 power zoom and the 55-210mm Sony kit zoom. Thanks for the great lens reviews, I always check your channel before buying a lens.
Superbly helpful video Christopher!
Lieber Herr Kollege Frost, Ihre Reviews sind für mich erste Wahl und sehr zuverlässig! Das was Sie aussagen trifft genau auf den Punkt! Da England ja auch wenn es aus der EU ausgetreten ist, dennoch ein Teil Europas ist, (im Gegenteil zu Amerika) und auch die Europäer in der Regel - oder mittlerweile gut englisch verstehen/sprechen (daher der Kommentar auf deutsch😅) wäre es schön auch die Europreise zu verwenden.
In English:
Dear colleague Frost, your reviews are my first choice and very reliable! What you say is spot on! Since England, even though it has left the EU, is still part of Europe (in contrast to America) and the Europeans usually - or meanwhile understand/speak English well (hence the above comment is in German😅), it would be nice also ad the euro prices.
I think the 70-350mm (SEL70350G) is also a fantastic lens!
Hi Chris, will you do a review of the Sony FE 28-60 kit lens for a7C? Really want to see one.😃
Hi Chris, nice video. Kindly make one for Nikon z apsc too.
Fantastic video. Just got an A6400 and this is very helpful!
Didn't expect this perspective, but I like it! Your videos are really good !
I have a Sony a6400 and bought a sigma 56 and th sony 70-350, also because of your reviews.
Now Im super indecisive if I first buy the Tamron 11-20 or the Tamron 17-70/sigma 18-50
There are so many nice options on sony apsc, what I would love to see in future would be a lens like 12-30 or something like that. I wouldnt really care about the fstop, I just would love to have the flexibility of having a lens which can do ultra wide, wide and portrait with reasonable blur. Though I think this is physically pretty hard to build - one can dream though 😅
And the lens I would look forward most to would be an apsc super telephoto lens. I would love to see something with more reach than the 70-350 optimized for apsc or a 300mm focal length with a better aperture.
Im really hyped for the future and hope Sony wont be lazy and brings out a new apsc this or next year.
Thanks for reading, have nice day
Like yourself I have the 6400 and 70 to 350.....i got the 17 70 Tamron 2.8 and to be honest, best image quality ive seen on my photography journey. Go for it. Then you have 17 to 350 range over just 2 lenses.
@@Badonicus I have missed the Tamron... Think I have to go take a look as it sounds like the perfect travel lens. (I have the sony 18-135 but it is too dark for me... The f2.8 on the Tamron is what makes it very tempting)
Definitely get the Tamron over the Sigma if you own a Sony a6400. The OSS really works for 3 stops on a consistent basis.
@@Badonicus Alright, will do ! Thanks for the feedback :D
@@AndreiGrigorean Alright, I will do so :D
Thanks for your feedback :)
The Samyang 12mm is gonna be on all these lists isn't it? Tip for fellow Nikon users, it works great on Z50/Zfc with a cheap adapter lol.
The 16-50mm 2.8 "basic b***h" kit lens is low key one of the best lens for the E mount.
Its overlooked advantage is portability.
Throw it onto a A5000/6000 series or even a A7/R/S series and you have a portable camera that can rival any compact camera with more functionality than any of them.
I also think that the best overall lens for the APS-C E mount system is the Sony 35mm f1.8.
Its may not be quite as sharp as the sigma 30 at f1.4 but its much more compact, the autofocus is smoother/faster/quieter, much more compact & lighter and the lens is stabilised, which IMHO gives the overall win to the Sony.
I'm hoping you get to test the Sony 10-18 F/4 one day, I have it and it's pretty good but yeah, it's also like 10 years old at this point
I got the tamron 17-70mm f2.8 and the Sony 70-350mm G OSS lenses... This way I got 17-350mm covered with stabilization built into the lenses.
Never bothered having primes?
@@sbsid1994 I have plenty of primes as well. But when it comes to replacing the kit zoom I will get other (better) zoom lenses.
Congratulations for another great video. Very useful. I was wating for you to recommend a macro lens, at some point.
The voice has a face! Great vid. Keep em coming!
Ha... I was thinking the same thing! well, more like "the hands" have a face!
Love your expert commentary and reviews Pastor Chris! I've made many a lens choice based upon your reviews and guidance! You are truly a blessing to us here at Charis Bible College in the US!
In terms of native E-mount lenses, I was always happy with the Sony G 18-105mm F4, Sigma C 30mm F1.4 and Samyang 12mm F2.
I use another mount as well now and I can adapt (and I know that's not the point of this video) Sigma 18-35mm F1.8 and Sigma 50-100mm F1.8 among other lenses.
Great video!! I'm sure I've watched at close to 60-80 of your videos as I have bought/sold and changed systems .. My first mirrorless digital camera was the Sony NEX-6 with the older kit zoom. You were right,,most Sony APS-C primes were not good -- The 16mm was not sharp at any setting--I tried 3 copies. Although you alluded to them ,,I'm surprised you didn't mention the Sigma primes specifically-- especially the 19mm, 30mm, and the 60mm 2.8s. Really great lenses for the price and, of course, the 3 1.4 lenses are even better--although 3 times more. Had the newer zooms you mentioned come out earlier I might have had more faith in the Sony crop sensor line up. As it was in 2016ish,,I left for the Panasonic Leica lenses in Micro 4/3s..
Talking head, Very good i love this presentation.
Sony clear image zoom ( extra zoom for free ) i am an airplane spotter and need all the zoom i can get, I always shoot RAW but if there is no money at the moment we can use the free option. It is only in JPEG so you loose a lot quality but if a very rare airplane comes by any picture is better then no picture. Would you agree ?
i never imagined he looked like this
As usual;. a stand out review. It certainly assists given that you have owned a small Sony apsc for some years".
I just find the extra heft, yes, it is minimal compared to putting a FF 70-200 2.8 IS on my a64000 ( and the a6000 that is just too competent, apart from IAF to sell), compared to the relatively recently released Sigma 18-50 2.8. Also agree, the native Sony 50 1.8 OSS is a one of the very, very few value for money lens for the Sony apsc line up.
I like shooting landscape type shots, and given the relative lack of decent glass ( not a fan of the Song 10-18), I just use my enduring and menu friendly Canon 6D with Canon L wide angle glass and several third party primes.
All in all, excellent and value focused round up.
Interesting to watch this a year later. What you suggest is still viable but there have been a great range of news lens out this year as well - Sigma 10-18 & 23, Sony 11 & 15, Viltrox 27 & 75 1.2 Pro Lens just for starters! And the Viltrox 13mm did come out on Sony E so good call there. It's just giving me headache now just deciding which lens to get next!!
I recently got the Samyang 12mm f2 (manual version) as a local retailer (Bol, kind of like dutch amazon) sells them for €196 new. Couldn't let that pass and I'm so in love with it. I thought it might be too wide for me, but it's a lot of fun and very dramatic.
Wow! It's the first time I see you in the viseo!
I went down road three and got the Sony E 50mm 1.8 OSS. It was a toss-up between that and the Sigma 56mm before deciding the OSS and autofocus trumped the extra sharpness and build.
Same. (I have the a6300 so OSS is kind of good to have in a lens.)
@@SorgesolI have a Nex3 🤣 But I have to say even on that the lens works very well.
Great review as always,. The Laowa f2.8 65mm macro for M system, one of the best macro lenses out there. (the best?)
I wish Sony comes out with a new APSC camera.
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thks for your recommandations. Love the 17-70 Tamron :)
This guide is amazing. Please do it for other systems too. A7III/IV would be a good next stop.
Great video!
I found a used in mint condition Sony 16-55 for $780
I like the colors of the channel logo :)
I can’t wait for Viltrox to release the 13mm f1.4 for E mount, it’s only out for Fujifilm at the moment.
Edit: lol, you mentioned it at the end. 💙
Really good video. Thanks!
If you are on the cheap, get an adapter.
If you have lenses from a DSLR system, you will find an adapter. Dumb adapters are just a spacer and a mount usually cheap, get one that is metal. Autofocus adapters are more expensive and usually list compatible lenses. Worth it if you have lenses.
I got a viltrox autofocus adapter for Nikon. All af-s and af-c lenses, including my sigmas work pretty good.
You won't have native zoom performance for sure, but with my nikor 35mm dx, nikor 50mm fx or af-s 24-70 2.8 I've only had a little more hunting than I would natively.
You won't get autofocus in video mode, thought. Which is no problem thanks to the great live focus peaking.
I've got dumb adapters as well which all work wonder for manual focus lenses.
i got my viltrox 23mm 1.4 for my a5100, its crazy there is 13mm 1.4 out now hahaha, i still use my kit lens in other situations when i need the adjustable zoom
How about the two Tamron lenses, 17-70 and 70-300. Should make a nice combination
what do you think of the sony 70-350 lense?
I have it. It’s excellent, but it, along with the 16-55 G lens are more pro level, both quite expensive and probably not the first step to upgrading your Sony APS-C kit lens.
Sony APS-C needs a COMPACT quality 23mm f2 (35mm equivalent) and 18mm f2 (28mm equivalent) small everyday carry lenses that can compete with Fuji and the Leica CL...We've been waiting 10 years.
This is very helpfull
Thanks
WelcomeThanks for your support!
I have a 16-70 or so MM Zeiss... but sadly I can't get an aperture below f/4 and there's some edge barrel roundness but my real chore is the focus (old camera -6000 instead of 6100) has some focus issues where I'll be stuck having to snap multiple photos of the same scene to get some non blurred shots.
The one you literally called terrible :(
I'm very surprised you didn't include the Sony E 35mm f/1.8 OSS, my second-favourite ASP-C lens only to the Sigma 56mm. I find the rendering much nicer than the Sigma 30, it has OSS, the chromatic aberration is better controlled, and the autofocus is in a different league entirely, esp. in low light (and yes, commenters, I've got the firmware update). It isn't quite as sharp, which maybe explains its absence, though I've never been disappointed.
I had Sony 35f1.8 for few months and only point I agree with you is fast AF. Also compact size is positive of this lens. I sold it early, because I didn't like rendering at f1.8-f2.4, which is kind of bad at fast prime. I can compare only with absolutely stunning Sigma 56, which also have aberations much better corrected. I had Sigma 30mm only for a few days from my friend, but I would definitely prefer Sigma (for photo shooting).
Also a big fan of the 35mm f/1.8 OSS! I prefer the wider field of view as compared to the Sony 50mm, and I love the creative mood I get when I have to zoom with my feet. Besides the kit, the other lens I own is the Sigma 18-50mm f/2.8 which I can also recommend.
Plz make such video for canon crop sensor dslrs
I am wondering if the old sony 18-135mm le lens still can resolve good combine with sony A7cr w 601mp .for travel than tamron 28-200mm lens .Thanks for your expertie comment .
I once used the 18-105 lens for a wedding and i was disappointed with the sharpness. Maybe i got a bad lens who knows
sir please also make video for canon apsc dslr for upgrade lens...
What about macro lenses?
Me: clicking the video.
Chris: hallo everyone (...)
Me: oh so you're an actual person not just hands that can speak..
Please make recommendations for canon eos m too
hi Kwiss. Didn't know you also had a face! love the videos.
The Sigma trio is unbeatable IMO.
Forgot to mention one of the best Sony APS-C lenses: Sony 35mm f1.8 OSS. Not expensive, sharp, fast AF, compact and image stabilization.
Hello Chris! what macro lens (not so highly priced) for taking video of insects would you recommend for a sony a6400? I've seen a lot of reviews but they're more focused on still objects or photos, but what about small moving creatures captured in video? :D
Thank you!!!!
Will you be doing one of these for canon
Lol, I will probably buy some flagship full frame 35mm prime, sigma 1.2 35mm is candidate. I just can't be without bokeh.
You looked different some years ago when I watched your reviews
Talking head for the win!
Like a prp
Great video. Kind of disappointed my favorite lenses didn’t make it to the list. Zoom telephoto: Sony 70-350 G and prime Sony 35 f18.
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Prime. Sigma 16,30,56
I have Sony and Canon APSC. Lens price / quality and availability is better in Canon, when buying old EF lenses. There are crazy opportunities in used market in EF lenses.
Why is the Sigma 18-50/2.8 not being included into this List? For 500 bucks, it's the best APS-C Zoom lens, in terms of price & performance, -size. Much better than the Sony "Zeiss" 16-70/F4 ZA, for real. Greetings.
It is, go to the 4:00 minute mark.
@@John-qi2te My bad, i've really overlooked this. :)
You want to see the state of my Man Cave LOL :)
If only Sony made an APS-C camera comfortable to hold...
A6600 is very comfortable
Sony likes it small, They claim to have the smallest full frame sensor with ibis. but when you have big heads that is not a good thing 555
@@agentjtravel_walkthru4205 Not like Fuji X-S10 or Nikon Z50
Hi mate you can **** *** with your Sony camera.