How These Puzzles Deceive You

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  • @GMTK
    @GMTK 3 роки тому +5096

    So it turns out seeing your own face in someone else's video is tantamount to a jump scare

    • @kwekker
      @kwekker 3 роки тому +59

      Wow cool hi gmtk

    • @fernandomartin9190
      @fernandomartin9190 3 роки тому +168

      Oh hi Mark

    • @GaliantSilverhawk
      @GaliantSilverhawk 2 роки тому +45

      Dani, the youtube developer to crab game learned that when he put his face on the red light green light robot. Players still call it cursed.

    • @-Scrapper-
      @-Scrapper- 2 роки тому +4

      Just found this channel and remembered you

    • @Moley1Moleo
      @Moley1Moleo 2 роки тому +7

      Your video about "What Makes a Good Puzzle?" you talk about "The Assumption" and "The Catch". To me it seemed like basically the same concept as this video. What do you think?

  • @soupinabagel4021
    @soupinabagel4021 3 роки тому +2806

    Can’t believe the ending what a twist! Definitely need to watch all the way through!

    • @jasonthesnow
      @jasonthesnow 3 роки тому +118

      I can’t believe I got played by a conclusion of a video

    • @jasonthesnow
      @jasonthesnow 3 роки тому +36

      TWICE NOW WHAT???

    • @mehcro3622
      @mehcro3622 3 роки тому +1

      what

    • @Aques_Aquir
      @Aques_Aquir 3 роки тому +1

      Bro, y tricked me

    • @cate01a
      @cate01a 3 роки тому +10

      omg fr fr fr fr dude this is like meta
      absolutely subverting our directions, god damn. thought it was just the 1 music gag but then no, there's an actual like twist

  • @Chepekk
    @Chepekk 3 роки тому +2560

    Not gonna lie, I kinda wish I could play concerned joe right now.

  • @tayyang2265
    @tayyang2265 3 роки тому +1894

    The ending really made me realize something new and insightful, don't want to spoil it tough

    • @JustChillinxd
      @JustChillinxd 3 роки тому +70

      The ending was so epic lol

    • @elton8135
      @elton8135 3 роки тому +27

      yeah, i want to explain what i understood about it, which is a lot, but i swore not to spoil

    • @OrangeC7
      @OrangeC7 3 роки тому +24

      Favorite part of the video, hands-down

    • @Amoongus
      @Amoongus 2 роки тому +10

      And how it cuts the the intro! I'm still sitting here, trying not to go crazy over how cool that was!

    • @frostburnspirit9065
      @frostburnspirit9065 2 роки тому +5

      Oh I was reading this while the outro was playing, so I got a bit confused lol

  • @qq3xy347
    @qq3xy347 3 роки тому +577

    Dude holy guacamole that ending was so insightful and mind blowing

  • @clcsqueejy04
    @clcsqueejy04 2 роки тому +199

    The setup and punchline of the "good job, you found the suicide button!" trap was so damn good.

    • @DrRank
      @DrRank 2 роки тому +8

      Why laugh at the player's misfortune when you can laugh with them?

    • @kimberliecarlson4338
      @kimberliecarlson4338 2 роки тому +3

      the narrator is Amazing

    • @goldenwarrior1186
      @goldenwarrior1186 Рік тому

      @@DrRankunless the player happens to be suicidal themselves

  • @davel1722
    @davel1722 3 роки тому +145

    You actual madman. I was excited to hear your reason behind not releasing the game then immediately realised I’ve been bamboozled.

  • @2CPhoenix
    @2CPhoenix 3 роки тому +161

    I believe GMTK simply called “Double Take Puzzle Design” “The Assumption” in his video. It’s a tough choice on which moniker I prefer…

    • @MadsterV
      @MadsterV 2 роки тому +14

      I like "double take" better, because that's the point: to push you into a second perspective

    • @0LoneTech
      @0LoneTech Рік тому

      Bait and Switch. A great way to get the player pissed off at the developer, because it's not about the puzzle, it's about insulting the player.

  • @VRWarLab
    @VRWarLab 3 роки тому +408

    13:15 slanted tiles? What about: if you are running on top of the block and against a wall, the box will move away from the wall because your body is pushing against an immovable object and your feet are pushing the box it away from that immovable object :V

    • @VRWarLab
      @VRWarLab 3 роки тому +61

      @@MentalCheckpoint Well, in my case for a VR game where the player has a locosphere (a ball at the feet is used for walking on a physics-based VR player controller) it literally happens automatically, you can even go on top of a ball and (if you are skilled enough) you can ride the ball like a circus clown hahaha.

    • @elton8135
      @elton8135 3 роки тому +48

      @@MentalCheckpoint with a good physics engine it could be okay to work everywhere, not only on walls, so that the box moves left if you run to the right on top of it, but yeah the slanted tile seems easier to program

    • @1996Pinocchio
      @1996Pinocchio 3 роки тому +9

      If it was just one step, you couldn't do that cause you would run away.
      But instead of doing it by hand, you could program it such that the slenders appear while building the levels without you having to place them.

    • @archmagusofevil
      @archmagusofevil 2 роки тому +20

      That could cause headaches in puzzle design. There was one side button that the player had to constantly run against to activate and one button that the player had to stand on top of a box to reach. If running into walls while on a box pushed it away, you could have your players pushing their box platform out from underneath themselves trying to activate wall switches.

    • @paulkauphart9444
      @paulkauphart9444 2 роки тому +4

      @@MentalCheckpoint or you could have the box move at a speed that is proportional to the difference between character current speed and player input speed, as long as the player is on top. Then you don't have to worry about walls. And it opens possibilities with the character's inertia.

  • @BiggestestFanOfCougarFan2873
    @BiggestestFanOfCougarFan2873 3 роки тому +120

    Yo that ending is sick

  • @aqua-bery
    @aqua-bery 3 роки тому +78

    That conclusion was slamming man

  • @landlubbr
    @landlubbr 3 роки тому +170

    I always wondered why you never finished concerned joe, i remember at the time i was following it quite closely waiting for a release date since i liked the flash version so much, and next thing i knew, you were working on the party game version of that concept.

  • @lyrchr
    @lyrchr 3 роки тому +123

    I am so glad you used gameplay from The Witness, that game was such a hard game at first, took a few months. You should’ve used gameplay from hue too though, a game about color and when you change the color it reveals some blocks you can move and removes blocks of the same color, another good double take game

    • @HazeInutt
      @HazeInutt 3 роки тому +1

      Ive played hue, such a surprisingly good gem

  • @h3ctic504
    @h3ctic504 3 роки тому +22

    Paused at 10:11, bought and played through INSIDE, and came back 3 and a half hours later to finish the video. No regrets.

  • @VRWarLab
    @VRWarLab 3 роки тому +39

    Wooow the statement at the end is super smart and mind-blowing! Worth a subscription and a like!
    I was just about to start designing a few puzzles for a tech demo of a physics-based VR shooter and these concepts are just the best haha
    Edit: lol I had no idea he would ask the people to talk about it 2 seconds after I paused the video lmao, definitively worth it watching the whole way through.

  • @gerwin7906
    @gerwin7906 3 роки тому +53

    Mindblowing video as always! The most underrated youtuber I've ever seen; I'm looking forward to seeing you reaching hundreds of thousands, or maybe even millions of subscribers ^^

  • @Banan101
    @Banan101 3 роки тому +28

    Man, I just, you know, call it trolling the player. You're certainly embracing that with the sassy narrator.

  • @Flaming-Wolf
    @Flaming-Wolf 2 роки тому +7

    Seeing as to how much I have enjoyed move or die, I would be pretty stoked for concerned Joe. Also that ending was crazzzyy like I can't believe you would say such a smart thing at the end.

  • @souporwormgaming
    @souporwormgaming 2 роки тому +2

    Wow! That conclusion was so crazy, I had to pause and reconcider life as a whole for a minute. It is just mind boggling how much amazingness you packed into that last minute!

  • @FuntimeSusie
    @FuntimeSusie Рік тому +1

    That ending was so heart filled and inspiring, it's really made me think about how I do things and I couldn't spoil it for you as it's an experience.

  • @yhvr
    @yhvr 3 роки тому +4

    One of the few channels I watch the outros on. You really make it worth it with such insightful remarks.

  • @vizthex
    @vizthex Рік тому +2

    please fully release Concerned Joe.
    it sounds like a fine addition to my puzzle game collection.

  • @simonpodliska1072
    @simonpodliska1072 3 роки тому +38

    That ending honestly changed the way I thought about puzzle games as a whole. It really tied everything together in a neat bow, which I’ve never seen a video do so perfectly before!

  • @see-em-ex
    @see-em-ex 3 роки тому +5

    Man, that outro - the one that wouldnt make sense without watching the entire video - was absolutely incredible!

  • @drowsyspook3455
    @drowsyspook3455 3 роки тому +3

    Wow that conclusion was SO mind-blowing and insightful. What a twist!

  • @triponaka
    @triponaka 2 роки тому +1

    I swear, I've come back to his videos on a somewhat regular basis. I rewatch them and, like, just how he explains stuff is so relaxing yet insightful. Just... so good!

  • @chasebigelow5620
    @chasebigelow5620 3 роки тому +11

    what a mind blowing conclusion

  • @lukelcs8934
    @lukelcs8934 2 роки тому +1

    I can't believe how insightful and mind-blowing that was!
    So glad I watched till the outro!

  • @The4stro
    @The4stro 3 роки тому +3

    this channel needs so much more attention. the editing is crisp and elegant, your voice is smooth and easy to listen to, the information about game design, while not really useful for me, is still really interesting. excellent content right there.
    now about the content of this video, what you just described is what i like the most about puzzle games, when games give you some information, but not all of it. like the level at 7:00. if you just told the player beforehand that you can do that with blocks, this level would've been boring and would be just about doing the right thing and moving to the next level.
    also in the same level, there's another idea i really like, and that is nudging the player towards the wrong solution. it forces the player to think out of the box, and makes them feel like they outsmarted the game. i absolutely love when i solve a puzzle like that

  • @aguspuig6615
    @aguspuig6615 2 роки тому +1

    that conclusion was so insightfull and mindblowing

  • @Solrex_the_Sun_King
    @Solrex_the_Sun_King 2 роки тому +3

    How insightful and mind blowing that conclusion was, definitely worth watching to the end.

  • @alexgoifa2325
    @alexgoifa2325 3 роки тому +1

    I restarted a game on the Talos Principle these days and it's amazing how it confirms all your videos. I understand the game mechanics in a new way now, and it improves my game experience even more ! Thank you for your content, keep going !
    I think I would also choose it for the "great hidden tutorial" category (from your last video)

  • @marcelsyt
    @marcelsyt 3 роки тому +42

    Honestly, that ending was insane! Never expected such a twist!

  • @ledkicker2392
    @ledkicker2392 Рік тому +1

    One of my favorite such puzzles is literally called "Deception" in the Talos Principle. It's in one of the early areas, it doesn't have as much elements as later puzzles, but still it's probably the most memorable puzzle in the game to me by the way it's guiding you to approach it.

  • @ccost
    @ccost 3 роки тому +14

    loved that mindblowing ending, you are so good at making twists like that !
    everyone NEEDS to watch the whole thing its so good

  • @dust9307
    @dust9307 2 роки тому

    Everything before the final conclusion of the video was fine and dandy, but that ending truly re-contextualized everything I had learned previously: offering a satisfying, thought-provoking, new and insightful conclusion to a fantastic essay on puzzle design. My life is forever changed.

  • @velyro4424
    @velyro4424 3 роки тому +3

    An amazing ending to that video man! Definitely worth the wait!

  • @lonredstar6904
    @lonredstar6904 3 роки тому +7

    I recently bought a cast iron puzzle thats 2 parts connected to each other, they had a small amount of flex and jiggle, but no matter how much you twist, turn or bend the puzzle, it doesn't budge. Turns out you have to spin the puzzle on its axis and it will unlock itself. Felt like this was a great example of subversive puzzle design

  • @0sac
    @0sac 3 роки тому +4

    That final conclusion was truly a transcendent experience. Bravo Mr. Berbece, bravo...

  • @TheDogn
    @TheDogn 2 роки тому

    The way your additional remarks at the end tie all these design concepts together is sublime. I feel like my brain has been rewired and im a more creative and insightful person now. Mind blown.

  • @hydrolur3959
    @hydrolur3959 3 роки тому +3

    An astonishing ending, could be one of the best you put out. Great video!

  • @goragarxgamedev
    @goragarxgamedev Рік тому +1

    One of the best game design videos I've seen in a while. Keep it up!

  • @Botul2
    @Botul2 3 роки тому +40

    Wow what a great conclusion!
    That aside I really wish I could play Concerned Joe, don't get me wrong Move or Die is really fun but having those (and many other) interesting mechanics in a singleplayer puzzle game sounds great (especially considering how few friends I have and how not many of them own move or die)

    • @tweer64
      @tweer64 2 роки тому

      Just skip to the end, lol.

  • @kevin7410
    @kevin7410 2 роки тому +1

    Holy crap, that ending. Pure poetry. My passion for game design was completely rekindled by that last paragraph alone. Thank you.

  • @kawaii_kraken
    @kawaii_kraken 3 роки тому +5

    *That was the most most twisted/awesome/mind-blowing ending Ive EVER SEEN!!*

  • @cryptic7789
    @cryptic7789 3 роки тому

    the entire video was very informative and engaging, but the twist in the conclusion really changed my view of video games and puzzles in general in a way I never thought possible

  • @aqua-bery
    @aqua-bery 3 роки тому +3

    The announcement at the end killed me

  • @fy8798
    @fy8798 3 роки тому +12

    Slanted walls really are clever, you can just use any physics solution and they'll work more or less, without needing too much extra code. Neat.
    Not as neat as the mind-blowing ending. Clever cutoff.

  • @Schtyn
    @Schtyn 3 роки тому +6

    The ending is so mindbreaking that it's solely the reason why I want to came back programming the second time.

  • @theferociousblue3945
    @theferociousblue3945 3 роки тому

    Was debating leaving a comment about how quality your work already is but honestly, after the ending? Definitely. Ties in so well with the theme, good job.

  • @StevenCojo
    @StevenCojo 3 роки тому +14

    I recognize, played and finished most of the games featured in this video. Let's see, I will write each game's first appearance as I watch the video for the first time:
    - The Witness (0:35)
    - Snakebird (1:14)
    - Superliminal (1:16)
    - Portal 2 (1:28)
    - Braid (1:58)
    - Inside (2:46)
    - Antichamber (2:55)
    - Portal (3:44)
    - Stephen's Sausage Roll (4:40) //I like that it has my name in the title, but damn the puzzles are hard
    - Half-Life 2: Chapter One (5:33)
    - Baba is You (6:02)
    - Talos Principle (6:13)
    - Stanley's Parable (9:09)
    - Language, Young Man (9:52)
    - (?) Q.U.B.E. 2 (10:26) //not sure, probably not this one thou
    - Mad Age & This Guy (10:31) // had no idea, I thought it was some sort of Cyberpunk Sokoban
    - The Pedestrian (14:34)
    - (?)LoL, idk (14:51) // maybe Talos again?
    Such an insightful and minblowing conclusion: most of these games were in the credits already...I feel dumb now for never reading the credits, just listening to your soothing voice.
    P.S. Homework #1 & #2 successfully completed btw

    • @rayceo4477
      @rayceo4477 2 роки тому

      I think 10:26 is Manifold Garden and 14:51 is Lightmatter.

  • @Lunarcreeper
    @Lunarcreeper 2 роки тому +3

    8:30
    took me a few minutes while i was paused and then i noticed
    "you push it half way"
    i wasn't sure if i accidentally found loophole or not either lmao

  • @hdanimatesorsomething
    @hdanimatesorsomething 3 роки тому +3

    9:52 the way he says that.

  • @FUGP72
    @FUGP72 Рік тому +1

    13:28 - Gives us his mental checkpoint guarantee...but clearly there is a non-slanted corner in the left side of the floor.

  • @kingoreo7050
    @kingoreo7050 3 роки тому +3

    That was one of the best endings i’ve ever seen. Incredible stuff

  • @tycho25
    @tycho25 2 роки тому +2

    Not very many people walk you through their process of designing puzzles, so this is super valuable

  • @protondev3428
    @protondev3428 3 роки тому +5

    mindblowing conclusion

  • @sulfurx777
    @sulfurx777 2 роки тому

    The way everything ties together in the end is fantastic! Keep up the great work.

  • @Shamazya
    @Shamazya 2 роки тому +4

    Definitely would be interested in playing Concerned Joe! Great video! I'm definitely a big fan of this kind of puzzle design. Though I wonder if a way to reinforce making sure players do both the vertical and lateral thinking is to sometimes only include the vertical thinking as the solution. That way the game trains you to try it because it could be the answer.

  • @eryndir
    @eryndir 3 роки тому

    I pressed the like button as soon as you showed the solution to the first puzzle (realizing how clever the design is) and stayed until the end to hear every bit of insight you got only to be left both amused and speechless.
    I love you but hate you, which I think is the best compliment I can give

  • @roboticenby
    @roboticenby 3 роки тому +3

    That ending was spectacular, can’t believe he announced when the game was gonnna come out!

  • @davie53
    @davie53 3 роки тому

    That outro was AMAZING!!! It was not something that I expected, but boy was it awesome!

  • @BlindSE
    @BlindSE 3 роки тому +14

    Where do you look for music to back your videos? They really help with the flow and presentation, plus i just desperately need the outro song in my library.

  • @macmusial3644
    @macmusial3644 2 роки тому

    I never thought about what you said in the outro that way, that's a really good way to put it

  • @mel6589
    @mel6589 3 роки тому +6

    Watching this ending made me feel something I never felt before, and I do not like it. Loved the video tho, amazing as always

  • @aplive58
    @aplive58 2 роки тому +1

    Level designer for a puzzler here. Thank you for providing this information! I've included some elements of misdirection and defiance of instinct already. I'll be sure to include more subversions in future levels.

    • @emojinary
      @emojinary Рік тому

      Would be really interested to know if you think that our emoji puzzles have potential!

  • @twizl4
    @twizl4 2 роки тому +3

    I would absolutely love a finished version of this game, even maybe as an additional game mode in move or die

  • @_kodokami
    @_kodokami Рік тому

    one year later, and the conclusion of the video is still up to date and very helpful - thanks for sharing :D

  • @eagletgriff
    @eagletgriff 2 роки тому +3

    That ending is the cherry on an already delicious and beautifully constructed cake, a round applause for you!

  • @SteffenThole
    @SteffenThole 3 роки тому +1

    It's incredible how entertaining, informative and engaging this video is at the same time! You might have just become my new favorite UA-camr, and I will watch your career with great interest.

  • @calebpettingill
    @calebpettingill 3 роки тому +7

    Join me in feeding the algorithm!

  • @ThomasGiles
    @ThomasGiles 2 роки тому

    That conclusion was insightful and/or mind-blowing!

  • @realfangplays
    @realfangplays Рік тому +4

    11:35 is a ridiculous thing to ask a video viewer to expect. Also, it's an added mechanic that will confuse the players more than whatever you're trying to get them to do. I don't agree with this particular segment of the video at all but the rest of the video was good.

    • @vwxyz345
      @vwxyz345 Місяць тому

      Glad someone else thought this too. I don't get why he thinks having to jump over the box to the left to push it to the right is too much to ask of the player when it's something everyone will do without even thinking about it, then adding the anti gravity brings up questions, how do I make the box go anti gravity again? How do I use the anti gravity of a box to solve a puzzle? That part just made no sense. Rest of the video was good though

  • @tanpat1712
    @tanpat1712 3 роки тому

    The conclusion was eye-opening, will definitely incorporate it in the future. Thanks a lot homie!

  • @Gnarlf
    @Gnarlf 2 роки тому +3

    What an insightful and mindblowing conclusion!
    oh and 15:30 you are just evil. i wanna play that!

  • @angrypotato9914
    @angrypotato9914 2 роки тому

    I was thinking about the puzzles you gave time to solve. I felt the change and the reward for going from vertical to lateral thinking and solving the puzzle.

  • @Fabelaz
    @Fabelaz 3 роки тому +7

    I'll send this to my GM. His puzzles are hella confusing and don't have any kind of tutorial inside of them. To the point where "alchemy puzzle" is an inside joke.

    • @starpeep5769
      @starpeep5769 2 роки тому

      lol

    • @starpeep5769
      @starpeep5769 2 роки тому

      can i see u play them

    • @Fabelaz
      @Fabelaz 2 роки тому

      @@starpeep5769 we don't record and haven't played in a while. Besides, we play in russian.

  • @wabbatal
    @wabbatal 2 роки тому

    Dude I can't believe the conclusion! So thought out and nicely delivered. 10/10

  • @sammyaxel
    @sammyaxel 3 роки тому +8

    I was just a depressed man, but then after watching the ending of the video, I've managed to defeat my depression, win a lottery, get a wife, have 2 kids, and beat Bezos' net worth. Thank you so much for the insightful and mind blowing ending, Mr. Mental Checkpoint.

  • @gddoor2592
    @gddoor2592 2 роки тому

    Man the ending was amazing, watched it again and again. But I want you to watch to the end, it’s worth it.

  • @gabrielerizzo6695
    @gabrielerizzo6695 2 роки тому +3

    what is the game at 10:28?

  • @backinyourcommentsectionag3191
    @backinyourcommentsectionag3191 2 роки тому

    holy shit! That ending was so unexpectedly amazing!
    Most of the video I found myself _almost_ falling asleep, but that *_ending_* was something else!
    Why I subbed right there.

  • @lonelyPorterCH
    @lonelyPorterCH 3 роки тому +4

    "Good job, you found the suicide button" with that voice
    I immediately had to think about handsome jack^^$
    Edit: also solid conclusion by the way, really made me think

  • @chromonym
    @chromonym 2 роки тому +1

    Baba is You's level 7 (which you mentioned) is my favourite tutorial level because of this

  • @leovitiello7424
    @leovitiello7424 Рік тому +3

    I played along and paused to try and figure out the puzzle as suggested in the video. I quickly came up with the idea of pushing the box only halfway through, but I dismissed it because I thought the other boxes and the other button surely had a purpose. Turns out, those were just red herrings. In my opinion, that is very poor puzzle design. Using such excessive red herrings is cheap and just creates artificial difficulty. Puzzles feel satisfying when they force you to come up with creative ways to use the elements at your disposal, not when you have to select which elements to use and which elements are just there to trick you.

  • @Th.Alchemist
    @Th.Alchemist 2 роки тому +1

    That vertical and lateral thinking design is very interesting! And I like it, I often fall for it and does give me a confidence boost like I did something to progress the puzzle even if it has 0 connections to the solution lol

  • @rorystockley5969
    @rorystockley5969 Рік тому +4

    I hate this sort of puzzle
    As soon as you see the "trick" the solution is obvious
    Just feels like it's wasting your time

  • @mayosanta
    @mayosanta 3 роки тому +1

    Good puzzle design is usually my favourite part of any game that has it. Also that part at the end was mind-blowing

  • @michaelcheng9987
    @michaelcheng9987 2 роки тому

    I thought that block tip was clever and innovative, but that ending! All your points came together so perfectly and brilliantly; definitely have to watch the whole video just for that, if anything!

  • @QuilloManar
    @QuilloManar 3 роки тому

    Wow! The way you ended this video was really super smart and mind blowing!

  • @crano8202
    @crano8202 2 роки тому

    The ending of this video truly subverted my expectations. I was not expecting that outcome. Great job!

  • @rawmaw
    @rawmaw 3 роки тому +1

    darn you Mental Checkpoint! That ending had me dancing a little

  • @franciscoroa4018
    @franciscoroa4018 3 роки тому

    nah man, that conclusion made me understand the subject in a whole new way, this guy is a revolutionary and a real genius

  • @lilyofluck371
    @lilyofluck371 3 роки тому +1

    I love you mental checkpoint. That outro is absolutely justified

  • @choty7066
    @choty7066 3 роки тому +2

    I know a lot of people already commented this but that was the best ending ever. Gotta watch the whole thing to understand it tho

  • @UnoriginalUser15
    @UnoriginalUser15 3 роки тому

    The ending really pulled the whole video together, super insightful

  • @hamster3664
    @hamster3664 3 роки тому

    that was such an insightful ending.. im glad i decided to stick around for the outro

  • @Sovic91
    @Sovic91 2 роки тому

    Very nice conclusion at the end. I hope we get to see it used more in future puzzle designs.

  • @axkhn4921
    @axkhn4921 2 роки тому

    Wow. That conclusion. Super mind blowing and insightful.

  • @teucay7374
    @teucay7374 Рік тому

    The amount of subversion, the insight, the mindblow of the last part of the video... just amazing