just wanna say that getting hitbox advice from one of the best execution players in modern tekken is an absolute blessing. and you speak english better than most people i know. this vid had me learn hitbox in a week or so (i was an avid stick player before), marry me super akouma
I just bought a Hitbox to play Tekken on, and I just want to say this video series has been helping me immensely. Especially since this is my first "arcade stick" and I'm trying to jump right into playing Devil Jin. Those things on top of each other really make it feel like learning an instrument, ngl.
you don't have an arcade stick you have a hitbox. please never refer to a lever less controller as an arcade stick again. hitboxes are not arcade sticks :(
Salut ! Alors tout d’abord merci pour ta super vidéo, t’as vraiment bien expliqué clairement. Mais j’avais quelques questions à te poser : - combien de temps cela t’a pris pour la maîtriser ? Et est ce que tu penses que la transition entre manette et HitBox n’est pas trop difficile ? - concernant la livraison en France, si les frais de port ne sont pas trop élevés et si le colis ne prend pas un temps fou pour arriver ? Encore merci pour cette vidéo et félicitations pour le TGO 🙌
@@SuperAkouma Do you recommend I learn clean backdash or dirty back dash. I want to learn how to wave dash ASAP because I play Mishima's. What would be most beneficial for that. And do you think it's possible to get a fast wave dash like on stick with hitbox with only one hand?
@@FGCTekken Yes wavedashing can be done very fast with only one hand without much difficulty. Also I recommend learning both backdashs, SOCD is better but the other one is less effort, I use both depending on the situation but mostly the dirty one
@@FGCTekken You can press Back tap Forward then with your right thumb tap Up and immediately after tap Forward again. There's a video on the hitbox channel called KBD up method.
Damn practicing kbd is hurting my wrist lol going to start my practice with it and end with it to get it down but not burn myself out or be in pain lol. Can't wait for t8 this will be first fighting game I take seriously :)
Very good video! I have done both the dirty backdash and the SOCD version but both versions of them gets me clipped a lot of the time when I am just trying to backdash to keep myself safe. Is this due to poor cancelling or just a general weakness of backdashing or specific to hitbox?
My reasoning may not be your answer but I know that some moves on tekken cannot be blocked while in neutral meaning you HAVE to have a back input being recognized by the game for the block to work. Maybe there is a chance you are being clipped by particular moves during neutral frames? If this is the case then yes it is more a problem related to hitbox/mixbox type controllers and methods because a "true" backdash/Korean backdash will have 100% uptime for frames while inputting back. The "shortcuts" usable on mixbox/hitbox type controllers should be able to deal with 95% of the moves on the game but there are some moves that bypass neutral blocks, hitting anyways.
I see why people call it a cheatbox, ive never played tekken and have terrible execution but I learned how to kbd, wavedash, and do electrics in under an hour lmao
Hey Akouma ! I’m new to Tekken, playing on KBM but modeling after a hit box so I can eventually move to one. I was sort of confused by the dirty back dash. In this video you say to do : back, quarter circle forward, back. I don’t see you pressing forward at all. Do you mean quarter circle back? Roughly 3:45 in the video. Should I learn all the KBD? Or focus on the “optimal” one?
Yeah I just meant quarter circle back, sorry 😅 I suggest learning all methods but focusing on the optimal one. The "dirty" one I feel gives you more control over fuzzy guards but it's not optimal
Actually serious question. I noticed in this video, you are using your ring finger for button presses and movements (such as for wavedash and 2p backdash). When I try using my ring finger, it is very uncomfortable. is this something that comes with practise? or do you do any stretches or exercises to get the mobility in that ring finger?
Practice will get you there but at the beginning stretching can help you last longer and relieve discomfort. It shouldn't take more than a month or two to get used to tho
@@SuperAkouma damn bro! my french brother. a month is nothing, and having that finger dexterity sounds like it would be sick. I will definitely practise more. Good showing @ red bull by the way
@@SuperAkouma My handsome french brother I am proud to report that I am getting better at putting that ring finger to work! It feels a little weird but I am definitely getting better at using that finger. Thanks so much!
Is there any reason to not do the perfect 3 frame backdash ever? Like I noticed you can also start your korean backdash this way by doing back (hold) forward, down, forward, down, repeat. Is that just better than doing regular backdash into korean backdash
If you can do the three frame dash consistently then you should do it for sure. It just doesn't add much so I didn't want people to get hung up on that
@@SuperAkouma yea I'm new to hitbox so im still building up muscle memory. But I find that I can cancel straight into korean backdash quicker using the 3 frame version.
This is a great explanation, thanks! I rebinded my RB key (to the right of 2) to down, giving me KBD on both sides with one finger from each hand. Read Evo/TWT rules and it's legal in both. Is anyone else doing this?
Okay so i wondering if I have bad habits. In the video when you do kbd, it looks like you have you pinky and thumb on the left hand resting on the hitbox. This whole time I have had my pinky and thumb raised in a straight position only when i kbd, then once i start comboing my pink and thumb go back down. Does it really matter? I trying to keep my pinky and thumb more planted but I feel kinda chained down now when doing kbd and it is kinda causing me more fatigue in my left hand, but that might be cause im not used to it.
I think having my fingers resting on the hitbox is just because showing the input and playaing aren't quite the same. I think I have my pinky raised a little too
Okay cool thx for the input. Starting last night I started lowering my thumb which kinda made my kbd more consistent I think. But my pinky just raises naturally by itself when doing kbd. Its wierd that it does this only when i do kbd but I guess its watever as long as it is comfortable.
@@SuperAkouma I made one personally and found it to only benifit kbd and if you play character with electric inputs. Its not bad to have the options there, but I tend to not use them most of the time unless i need to create space or if I need that execution with Devil Jin.
@ tekken players .. should you start a KBD with a normal backdash and then go into the KBD? Also is it worth doing the KBD if you're side stepping or should you just do normal backdashes on sidesteps since its already canceling? Thanks.
A single backdash can be very effective, it can be used to create a whiff and punish. KBD is more of a way of controling space on the screen, to not let you opponent oppress you. You shouldn't blindly KBD always look at the game state and try to control the pace of the game through movement and pokes
It's not even close to cheating. It's not even really an upgrade. It's a sidegrade. I play on mixbox and main heihachi, I don't think my wavedash will ever be as fast as a stick player's. Learning execution on both sides is an extreme chore, even though the buttons are technically fast. SOCD backdash sucks by the way. It's really slow and impractical compare to the normal version. It's very worth learning to do it the normal way on mixbox and hitbox. tl:dr don't listen to dipshits infected with boomerthink
@@SuperAkouma hmmm, i grew accustomed to stick pretty quick. I tried to kbd on keyboard but found that pretty hard, but i'm guessing hitbox will be easier than that
@@FATEYYYY it is the same as keyboard and keyboard is cheating too. you have to understand these games were designed around sticks so anything that lets you physically press 2 Simultaneous Opposing Cardinal Directions at the same time is cheating it does not matter how socd cleaning handles it . we never had this problem until they started releasing fighting games on pc...
@@SuperAkouma moi perso c'est akuma que je galère a jouer XD depuis la sortie du jeux je main Paul je suis emperror avec akuma je le joue en tant que deuxième main je l'ai monter raijin mais depuis la S3 je gagne plus bcp avec
For Tekken, Up is not as important as in 2D games, and Down is used much more frequently. So you should swap the up and down. KBD and electric on 2p will cause less strain on your ring finger
just wanna say that getting hitbox advice from one of the best execution players in modern tekken is an absolute blessing. and you speak english better than most people i know. this vid had me learn hitbox in a week or so (i was an avid stick player before), marry me super akouma
How hard was it to korean backdash for you
I just bought a Hitbox to play Tekken on, and I just want to say this video series has been helping me immensely. Especially since this is my first "arcade stick" and I'm trying to jump right into playing Devil Jin.
Those things on top of each other really make it feel like learning an instrument, ngl.
you don't have an arcade stick you have a hitbox. please never refer to a lever less controller as an arcade stick again. hitboxes are not arcade sticks :(
@@roastytoasty8559 who ........ asked?
@@valchan2258 does not matter who asked. people need to know what to call things. or else how can you differentiate between the 2?
@@roastytoasty8559 why do you think he added quotation marks
and why did you necro a 2 year old comment
@@korrdnhe was hoping nobody would respond and make him look stupid
As a non fighting game player this is fucking nuts
You can walk forward (walks back) you can walk backwards (walks forward) 😂😂 when u realised made it funny
thanks Super Akouma! U have helped me as a newcomer to take my tekken experience, to the next level thanks to your guide :).
Love you SA, my hitbox arrives in 5 days ❤
Excellent tutorial! Thanks man
Perfect video super AKOUMA 👏👏
Salut ! Alors tout d’abord merci pour ta super vidéo, t’as vraiment bien expliqué clairement.
Mais j’avais quelques questions à te poser :
- combien de temps cela t’a pris pour la maîtriser ? Et est ce que tu penses que la transition entre manette et HitBox n’est pas trop difficile ?
- concernant la livraison en France, si les frais de port ne sont pas trop élevés et si le colis ne prend pas un temps fou pour arriver ?
Encore merci pour cette vidéo et félicitations pour le TGO 🙌
The god is backk 👌🙏🙏🙏🙏
Just got a hitbox and man is back dashing hard.
It takes time to get the timing down but it will become natural quickly don't worry ^^
@@SuperAkouma Do you recommend I learn clean backdash or dirty back dash. I want to learn how to wave dash ASAP because I play Mishima's. What would be most beneficial for that. And do you think it's possible to get a fast wave dash like on stick with hitbox with only one hand?
@@FGCTekken Yes wavedashing can be done very fast with only one hand without much difficulty. Also I recommend learning both backdashs, SOCD is better but the other one is less effort, I use both depending on the situation but mostly the dirty one
@@FGCTekken You can press Back tap Forward then with your right thumb tap Up and immediately after tap Forward again. There's a video on the hitbox channel called KBD up method.
@@SuperAkouma Struggling a lot with p2 wavedash
Legit Tutorial. Thank you for showing me the hitbox movements
Damn practicing kbd is hurting my wrist lol going to start my practice with it and end with it to get it down but not burn myself out or be in pain lol. Can't wait for t8 this will be first fighting game I take seriously :)
Very good video!
I have done both the dirty backdash and the SOCD version but both versions of them gets me clipped a lot of the time when I am just trying to backdash to keep myself safe. Is this due to poor cancelling or just a general weakness of backdashing or specific to hitbox?
My reasoning may not be your answer but I know that some moves on tekken cannot be blocked while in neutral meaning you HAVE to have a back input being recognized by the game for the block to work. Maybe there is a chance you are being clipped by particular moves during neutral frames?
If this is the case then yes it is more a problem related to hitbox/mixbox type controllers and methods because a "true" backdash/Korean backdash will have 100% uptime for frames while inputting back.
The "shortcuts" usable on mixbox/hitbox type controllers should be able to deal with 95% of the moves on the game but there are some moves that bypass neutral blocks, hitting anyways.
Thanks a lot for making this video would you still recommend the original hitbox arcade over the other options 2024?
I've made sure to test out all the other main options and yes I still recommend the OG even if there's a lot of competition these days
@@SuperAkouma Yo thanks a lot man this really helps me out right now! god bless you hope you'll have a nice start into the day lmao
@@Riku9361 You too bro, but don't forgot as of right now you'll need a Brook Wingman FGC adapter to play on PS5
I see why people call it a cheatbox, ive never played tekken and have terrible execution but I learned how to kbd, wavedash, and do electrics in under an hour lmao
12:20 High speed wave dash
12:28 reverse
I realize it's kind of off topic but do anybody know a good website to watch new series online ?
@Boone Jalen i use flixzone. Just google for it =)
@Reese Immanuel yea, I've been watching on Flixzone for since march myself :)
@Reese Immanuel thanks, I went there and it seems like a nice service :D Appreciate it !
@Boone Jalen Happy to help :)
Movement right thump, hopkick lift thump
Hey Akouma ! I’m new to Tekken, playing on KBM but modeling after a hit box so I can eventually move to one. I was sort of confused by the dirty back dash. In this video you say to do : back, quarter circle forward, back. I don’t see you pressing forward at all. Do you mean quarter circle back? Roughly 3:45 in the video. Should I learn all the KBD? Or focus on the “optimal” one?
Yeah I just meant quarter circle back, sorry 😅 I suggest learning all methods but focusing on the optimal one. The "dirty" one I feel gives you more control over fuzzy guards but it's not optimal
Thanks for that info g
love your rings
Actually serious question. I noticed in this video, you are using your ring finger for button presses and movements (such as for wavedash and 2p backdash). When I try using my ring finger, it is very uncomfortable. is this something that comes with practise? or do you do any stretches or exercises to get the mobility in that ring finger?
Practice will get you there but at the beginning stretching can help you last longer and relieve discomfort. It shouldn't take more than a month or two to get used to tho
@@SuperAkouma damn bro! my french brother. a month is nothing, and having that finger dexterity sounds like it would be sick. I will definitely practise more. Good showing @ red bull by the way
@@SuperAkouma My handsome french brother I am proud to report that I am getting better at putting that ring finger to work! It feels a little weird but I am definitely getting better at using that finger. Thanks so much!
Is there any reason to not do the perfect 3 frame backdash ever? Like I noticed you can also start your korean backdash this way by doing back (hold) forward, down, forward, down, repeat. Is that just better than doing regular backdash into korean backdash
If you can do the three frame dash consistently then you should do it for sure. It just doesn't add much so I didn't want people to get hung up on that
@@SuperAkouma ah okay thx. I can do it but there are times when my brain is going back and forth on whether to do it or do a regular backdash.
@@theelusivememe1772 for this, whatever is more comfortable and uses the least brain power
@@SuperAkouma yea I'm new to hitbox so im still building up muscle memory. But I find that I can cancel straight into korean backdash quicker using the 3 frame version.
This is a great explanation, thanks! I rebinded my RB key (to the right of 2) to down, giving me KBD on both sides with one finger from each hand. Read Evo/TWT rules and it's legal in both. Is anyone else doing this?
Thanks for this
Big thumbs up 👍
I find doing jet upper on a hitbox surprisingly difficult because it's so easy to skip neutral when going from forward to back
Yeah it took me a while to figure out but once I got trick I could do consistent enough tju
Okay so i wondering if I have bad habits. In the video when you do kbd, it looks like you have you pinky and thumb on the left hand resting on the hitbox. This whole time I have had my pinky and thumb raised in a straight position only when i kbd, then once i start comboing my pink and thumb go back down. Does it really matter? I trying to keep my pinky and thumb more planted but I feel kinda chained down now when doing kbd and it is kinda causing me more fatigue in my left hand, but that might be cause im not used to it.
I think having my fingers resting on the hitbox is just because showing the input and playaing aren't quite the same. I think I have my pinky raised a little too
Okay cool thx for the input. Starting last night I started lowering my thumb which kinda made my kbd more consistent I think. But my pinky just raises naturally by itself when doing kbd. Its wierd that it does this only when i do kbd but I guess its watever as long as it is comfortable.
@@theelusivememe1772 Comfort is always the priority
The qcb movement with Nina, Paul, and Bryan is called a back sway
12:58 lol 🤣. I also find people that do this kind of stuff on pad pretty impressive
Use two fingers and shake the fuck out of the controller
It’s honestly easy some wrong w y’all hands I understand wave dashing on pad being hard and that’s it and I mean a consistent wave
Immagine a hit box cross up with 3 buttons instead of a stick!:)
Some people made that but it's not as good as it sounds
@@SuperAkouma I made one personally and found it to only benifit kbd and if you play character with electric inputs. Its not bad to have the options there, but I tend to not use them most of the time unless i need to create space or if I need that execution with Devil Jin.
@ tekken players .. should you start a KBD with a normal backdash and then go into the KBD? Also is it worth doing the KBD if you're side stepping or should you just do normal backdashes on sidesteps since its already canceling? Thanks.
A single backdash can be very effective, it can be used to create a whiff and punish. KBD is more of a way of controling space on the screen, to not let you opponent oppress you. You shouldn't blindly KBD always look at the game state and try to control the pace of the game through movement and pokes
I wanna get a hitbox/mixbox but people keep saying it's cheating
It's not even close to cheating. It's not even really an upgrade. It's a sidegrade.
I play on mixbox and main heihachi, I don't think my wavedash will ever be as fast as a stick player's. Learning execution on both sides is an extreme chore, even though the buttons are technically fast.
SOCD backdash sucks by the way. It's really slow and impractical compare to the normal version. It's very worth learning to do it the normal way on mixbox and hitbox.
tl:dr don't listen to dipshits infected with boomerthink
salut mec !
je suis entrain de me renseigner sur les contrôleurs leverless parce que j’aimerai m’en acheter un. Tu en aurais à me conseiller ?
J'en ai essayer beaucoup mais rien ne vaut l'original pour moi, en France tu peux la prendre sur smallcab
I need more episodes
i like ur voice, do voice overs on other stuff KEKW
Throw some ideas my way and it might happen 😁
What about iws??
This is about movement, I've made other videos for other tech
4:25 0.5x speed backdash
Will you do an akuma one?
@@SuperAkouma thats really great to hear because I never see an akuma hitbox tutorial on youtube
the keys are so close together inst that unconfortable?
They're more spaced out then you'd think, more than keyboard keys
I wish up and left were switched uugghh
Does hitbox gonna work for ps5?
Currently it works on PS5 for PS4 games but hitbox is working on an update. We can't confirm if it'll be software or hardware right now
@@SuperAkouma Ok bro thank you!
i was thinking of getting a hitbox, but so much work has to be done to get used to it, plus i think my left hand would hurt after a while.
@@SuperAkouma hmmm, i grew accustomed to stick pretty quick. I tried to kbd on keyboard but found that pretty hard, but i'm guessing hitbox will be easier than that
@@Krando_Super late but wanted to ask is it worth getting hitbox?
@@FATEYYYY if you want to be a cheater and destroy the spirit of the fighting game genre you should purchase this product.
Wait how is this cheating when you can play Tekken on a keyboard for instance? It's the same concept just with better layout and button inputs.
@@FATEYYYY it is the same as keyboard and keyboard is cheating too. you have to understand these games were designed around sticks so anything that lets you physically press 2 Simultaneous Opposing Cardinal Directions at the same time is cheating it does not matter how socd cleaning handles it . we never had this problem until they started releasing fighting games on pc...
Dirty backdash doesn't feel like cheating at least. lol.
Des années pour apprendre a backdash ? XD en 4 semaine jai appris le Korean backdash
@@SuperAkouma moi perso c'est akuma que je galère a jouer XD depuis la sortie du jeux je main Paul je suis emperror avec akuma je le joue en tant que deuxième main je l'ai monter raijin mais depuis la S3 je gagne plus bcp avec
Back here because I still don’t feel any improvement
For Tekken, Up is not as important as in 2D games, and Down is used much more frequently. So you should swap the up and down. KBD and electric on 2p will cause less strain on your ring finger
No
@@SuperAkouma understandable, have a great day👍
cheater
True red name over here amigo