Great video, very informative and direct! I suggest writing a script before the video because at some sections in the video I got a little confused. Overall amazing video.
it's always good to see external hardware with good performance this will create very different scenarios for day time professionals night time gamers and 3d designers editors .Matebook + RTX 4060 will be enough for me
I have a gaming laptop with that has a 3080 with 8GB of VRAM that I've had for 2yrs already. I only wish it had 10-12GB of ram. Was thinking of getting a 4080Ti w/10-12BG to see if I can squeeze out another two years of gaming. It does have a TB4 port.
Yes it does have thunderbolt 3- 4 supporting but limit is 4070ti like I've told in this video and you have to consider your cpu + gpu combination for bottle neck potential
Thanks for this great video. I got a little bit confused along the line. Are you saying using thunderbolt connection has a limitation on bandwidth? Can I use a connector that has an M.2 to PCIe cable instead? Will this reduce bandwidth difference? If I plan to use the external GPU for just 3D rendering and No gaming at all. Do I really need to worry about this bandwidth issue of the thunderbolt connection?
I dont think limitation of thunderbolt 3 and 4 not a problem for general users. ua-cam.com/video/NapKC7KxfaE/v-deo.htmlsi=OzopQ4uV3klH68Uj video for another channel again from me . Might give you some idea
Hello i have i7 1360p 16gb ram samsung galaxy book. Will aorus gtx 1070 gaming box go good with that? Also tell me other compatible options to avoid bottleneck
Do you think a 4070ti as an egpu on a victus 15 with ryzen 7 5000 series, 3050 ti , 32 gb ram, would be worth the upgrade, id probably use the gpu at later date for pc build as well.
www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/3907vs5210/AMD-Ryzen-7-5800H-vs-Intel-i9-13900H table shows power difference between 5800h and my 13900H in this video review you can add your cpu model and see the difference that will show your cpu can cause or not a bottleneck with RTX 4070ti
So what do you mean if that we can't use egpu if the laptop we bought didn't have dedicated graphics? Like Nvidia graphics? Even if we have the best CPU?
if you watched entire video without skipping this question should not be coming from 2012 youtube profile. I said if you have internal GPU you have to connect thunderbolt before starting your laptop like installing GPU to a PC from PCI express. if you try plug in an out during using it might not see so you have to restart that's all. I speacially mentioned near end. it is ideal for laptops without GPU but good cpu. ( You did not watched it do you ? )
I have asus zephyrus duo with i9-10980HK and rtx 2080 super max-q 8GB memory. I'm thinking about buying EGPU. I want maximum gaming performance on a 1080pon laptop (300hz display) and on the attached 4k monitor with an HDMI 2.1 port. I also have a Thunderbolt 3 connector. What graphic card could you recommend to me that will work with my components? Best regards
in my test I ve used intel 13900h cpu and you are saying 10980HK. www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/3700vs5210/Intel-i9-10980HK-vs-Intel-i9-13900H difference is big I guess (havent measured but your cpu might create bottle neck) you have to look for benchmarks I've checked for rtx4070 people says i5 13600K www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/3700vs5210vs5008/Intel-i9-10980HK-vs-Intel-i9-13900H-vs-Intel-i5-13600K That means you should go RTX4060 in my opinion your notebook upgrade is more important than your gpu upgrade . You can sell and get slim one without GPU and add external ?
I don't think there is a detailed video as this with comparing external with internal. Everyone uses RTX4090 ( which is top level and unnecessary if you ask me ) you can do it it is not hard users manuels als will help you
This is amazing! I want to build a gaming PC or to buy a PS5. With the PS5 I will only get a gaming console, whereas if I built the PC, I would get not only a gaming console but also a full PC to study, work and play. I have my pretty small portable silent and light 13 inches laptop with Thunderbolt 4 without a GPU. If I built a pc I'd have to buy a GPU either way + Case + RAM + SSD + CPU + MotherBoard + Cooling I can buy now only the GPU (less upfront investment), and start to play!!! yes I might get little less performance than the GPU connected to the PCI, but if I needed more power I could get the remaining components for the full PC. I wouldn't have to buy again a GPU. The flexibility of this is stunning!
I am glad you've found my video useful. I am thinking the same I use Geekom A8 with My TV and Projector Setup hopefully soon make a Mini PC + E-GPU Video too ua-cam.com/video/ZH9_FS7Vr-4/v-deo.htmlsi=9_Jz_ALXdZN7J56v you can also think of as an Laptop Alternative
What GPU do you recommend for MacBook Pro 16 2019 (I7 9650H / 32 GB RAM)? I think about RTX 4060 Ti, but I think CPU is weak for this... I will use it for games by bootcamp.
CPU is very old in my opinion instead of wasting your money try to buy a mini PC and add external GPU later on for more performance . You can check my last mini PC review videos
"direct" mean you connect the GPU to the laptop via an eGPU enclosure, then connect the GPU to the monitor via HDMI. So the GPU will be connected to both the monitor and the laptop, right?
Probably many vga cards can handle. You can look for GTX 1050ti DisplayPort 1.4 | HDMI 2.0b | DVI-D DL 7680 x 4320 Max Digital Resolution Could handle what you need but you can double check
I plan on using a 4070 ti super. Paired with Asus 14x q420 (i7-13700H) I'm thinking I don't have to get "Thunderbolt Control Center" Shouldn't it just work with nvidia driver only? Using the same th3p4g3. Direct setup.
You dont need anything nvidia driver is enough but if you have gpu like I mentioned you might need to restart or connect before starting laptop otherwise even if you see the hardware it might not work as it should.Just to make sure
it helps a lot if you are working traveling and gaming or producing I guess it's opening the doors of more portability to professionals and people who love to work and travel light weight
I don't know 7780HS but if you mean 7840HS here is your chart www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/4727vs5258/Intel-i5-12450H-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-7840HS this will show you performance difference if you want to add e-GPU you want to best CPU possible. in this video I've used 13900H with 4070ti and even that made couple of frame loss because of bandwidht but right at limits soif you want to use RTX3060 then yes you can choose 12450H but then why do you spend that much of money to external hardware you can but laptops with internal gpu. You cant Upgrade CPU of a Laptop later that is why you should buy the best CPU possible
@@PPSRHD external gpu is not for free You have to buy power supply External GPU probably above mid range And good enough cpu laptop to keep up with it. This setup is not for budget. This consept works if you want to but only cpu powerfull thin laptop and want to use GPU power at home or office. Performance always has a Price 😎
Yes than you have to find laptop that is slick and good looking with oculink ?I havent seen so many yet. if you buy gamer withmovulink that kind of defeats the purpose of it doesnt it ?
@@freedomisdead9638 Oculink is not new as you think because of gpu it is there with SCSI cards for multiple hard drives have oculink for a long time because they need fastest port possible. but as far as I know gaming laptops with oculink is heavy or dont exist in slim line of laptops yet ?
@@homecinematech oh, i thought it was something new, because minisforum PC only released Oculink port on their latest products, most of people interesting in eGPU are miniPC and laptop owners, and very very few have the oculink option unfortunately.
they need to match as speed so if you think you can use your 4 years old CPU with latest gpu probably your CPU will bottleneck this setup is ideal when you have new CPU Laptop or Mini PC + Until the RTX4070 cards you are good to go
I havent tried it but does it passes te cuda core count of 800-900$ vga card ? İf they do there could be limits but otherwise I dont think there will be problem for low powered AI cards will be having too much limit with thunderbolt4
I dont recommend you an external GPU cost you need to update your pc www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/1444vs5157vs6044vs5210/Intel-i7-3630QM-vs-Intel-N100-vs-AMD-Ryzen-3-7335U-vs-Intel-i9-13900H this chart will give you idea. Your CPU might be an i7 on the name but speed is intel N100 Style your first need is upgrade PC not external GPU
if you have thunderbolt 3.0 you can use it same way I did . Just dont forget to buy right vga card dont create bottleneck since you have embeded cpu and no cpu upgrade later choose your VGA according to your CPU
Hi if you would like to buy same adapter www.newegg.com/global/sa-en/p/2NS-00K3-00002?item=9SIB74JK9C1197 you can use this link. in this video I did not used case of it but if you want to use smaller GPU models you can use case too
i have an asus vivobook with i5-13500h and integrated intel gpu only. can i go for rtx 3060 or something like that? also can you tell something about cpu overheating will it worsen temperatures?
İf you have only intel intagrated graphics this will fly your performance . Cpu wont be heating because your load will get lot less since it will be outside of your laptop.Just like my example in this video you can look for RTX 4060 if the prices are close
@@abhijeetmohapatra6873 www.newegg.com/global/sa-en/p/2NS-00K3-00002?item=9SIB74JK9C1197 this was the unit in the video but I havent used the casing because car was little bigger and show you guys better hardware
Without thunderbolt speed sorry you cant use it usb 3.0 sucks at this level usb 3.0 speed 5Gbps thunderbolt 3 speed 40Gbps you can guess why we need thunderbolt or USB 4😎
@@hamzahdzulfiqar8173 you need to consider your cpu might also create a limitation.this setup is not cheap. İt is more suitable for newest apu thin high end cpu model laptops instead of updating old existing laptops with lower cpu
@@homecinematech lets say i get 4070 or 4060 ti , how much bottleneck i would have compared to desktop, like 100fps vs 130 fps, or with score for benchmark
@@hamzahdzulfiqar8173 videoda yeterince açıklamıştım ama türkçe versiyonu daha kolay anlaşılabilir ua-cam.com/video/TtDiAjF4_3o/v-deo.htmlsi=EkRQ1tJBHzulE5PO rtx 4070 e kadar bottle neck yok işlemciniz gpunuza denk ise
Hallo Thank you for this informative video, I have ASUS G752VS-BA191T and I use it for 3d (blender) i7-6700HQ 16 GB ram Nvidia Geforce GTX 1070, 8 GB Witch EGPU would be compatible with it please . Thank you
www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/2586vs5210/Intel-i7-6700HQ-vs-Intel-i9-13900H link will show you difference of my laptop CPU in this test and yours. Your system is very balanced but if you put high end powerfull GPU externaly you"ll have bottlenech with yoyur CPU - GPU combination seems like you have to upgrade your laptop first and for that you can consider slim models wothout dedicated gpu and add this sort of solution or buy something like mine internal 4060 or 4070 its up to you but you cant make an old man Rung like Usain Bolt 😊 this setup suits most of the time for high end CPU slim laptops to combine with high level cards
Açıklamıştım ama dikkatli izlenmrmiş olabilir veya ilerleterek izlemiş olabilirisniz ua-cam.com/video/TtDiAjF4_3o/v-deo.htmlsi=poZmru5P6wS9jU1M videosu sizin için daha iyi olabilir
Direct : You get visual from VGA cards HDMI port İndirect : getting visual from your lağtops HDMI Port data has to go inside laptop afain that slows down because extra use of same bandwidth
There was a comparison of performance losses for eGPU (Thunderbiolt or Oculink) vs proper GPU (desktop): - Thunderbolt is more unstable (from game to game, 3d task to task, disabling rebar, etc.) and loses you an average 30-60% performance of the card (be it 2080 or 4090) - Oculink is quite rare (need a special m.2 slot extension, e.g. instead of your WiFi card) but offers much more stable results and roughly 10-20% performance loss. But still, this whole setup and juggling with settings will actually provide you with performance boost for much less money, than buying a $3k gaming laptop with worse performing mobile chip. The price of convenience, though...
Thanks for sharing I am also creating content and reviewing pc parts over 10 year for Turkish language so I know the things you said. Oculink is also kind of old considering scsi cards and multiple storage aplications with need of lot of bandwidth. I am pleased to use it with a practical port like thunderbolt or usb4 in next gen so I think usb4 will be the general use scenario of these and if you need hardware over 4070ti than you can buy a pc an live a happy life 😉 I would like to see your comments in this channel .Thank you for watching
To be Able to Move When You Want or Boost When You Needed ! You can Also Apply This to Mini PC models Like ua-cam.com/users/shortsMQaJeo7NRgs?si=1prbtZLqC95ctcNS this video detailed content will arrive soon
@@cheeseswears I thought the same thing when you say about USB 4 well for my perspective CPU is very similar my i9 13900H and potential performance will be similar in theory but ! VEGA AMD APU gpu driver might crash with nvidia driver if you can overcome that than if you try share your results. in future coming videos I plan to create content with powerful nuch style systems like Geekom, Beelink and others ... but I cant tell you when it will happen. Don't forget to subscribe
@@homecinematech thanks for advice! Just picked up the laptop and trying to see what are the capabilities of it, haven’t had a windows pc in a long while. I’ll let you know the results when they happen.
It´s posible to use laptop Thunderbolt -> eGPU single way and eGPU -> Laptop HDMI for rendering instead of using an external LCD monitor to achieve same results as indirect processing?
it might be possible for rendering and calculations but still there is total bandwidth so still 4070ti will be max card for thunderbolt 3-4 setups. Ihavet tried this focused on gaming most in future I might test this too
Hi, your video is very helpful. Have questions for anyone's recommendations, Im planning to buy a sager NP9372W laptop with specs: Intel® Core™ i9-14900HX GeForce RTX™ 4090 16 Thunderbolt 4 What is the max NVIDIA eGPU card i should get? Im debating rtx 4070, 4080, 4090 (i know overkill but im planning build desktop later and reuse whatever eGPU i buy now). And would it improve graphics performance given the laptop is very powerful by itself?
More than RTX 4070ti will be creating bottle neck for egpu and you cant have internal RTX 4090 performance from anthing else. I suggest buy your laptop and wait a while for e gpu and you cant use both gpu models in same time for graphics becauae of drivers. righ now RTX 4090 is hard to find or expensive because its been used Ai calculations .
AMD and Nvidia will work question is what is your internal gpu because if you have nvidia from your laptop drivers could conflict one to another. if you have intel or AMD CPU with onbard GPU or APU wont be a problem.
@@NIIJIKIWENH than sorry you are stuck with internal gpu you have. That is why I am still using windows Until Qualcom + Windows on Arm is optimised mac has a chance after that people will convert pc much faster in my opinion
To not approach a review like this while considering the incredible demands and needs of local iteration of leading LLMs and Generative AI models (a.k.a. checkpoint files) is VERY bizarre. :-S ~ Simple install Ollama, and download any number of AI models. This might offer some minimal understanding as to where all of this is heading and why so many more markets of people are going to need to run eGPUs in 2024 and beyond.
if you can add vga to a laptop than go right ahead without an adapter. Expensive definition depends on your expectation some people expects Porsche quality and performance for vw golf price and that is called dream not a real life
Ugh i can see the stuttering in your into video alone, for anyone looking yes it worth it, why would it not and you probably don't want it in the configuration this guy has got it in
Videos have been shot 24P games are having lot more fps so what you see is normal this is not gaming channel and I am not making gaming reviews here. When I shoot 60Frame or 120 just because I can it will cost me hudge space of video files and no return in youtube views !!! but if you want to learn how I know all these because I create content over 15 years in it for nvidia,amd,and many others ua-cam.com/video/NapKC7KxfaE/v-deo.htmlsi=0ULcF7L9Od0YmPfT
www.newegg.com/global/sa-en/p/2NS-00K3-00002?item=9SIB74JK9C1197
This is really helpful to see someone talk in this much details
thank you. I hope you enjoy rest of my content
I was looking for this topic for a while with my 7840HS lenovo laptop. Well informative video! keep it up!
Thank you so much for sharing your experience on this topic. I'm interested in doing the same thing. Thanks again!
I am glad if it helps. Dont forget to match cpu and gpu choice to avoid bottle neck and RTX4070ti is kind of limit for Thunderbolt 3-4 bandwidth👍
I learned so much from this video. Thanks!
You are welcome. There is still a limit of cards like RTX 4090 but for me its good enough 4070ti 😊
Great video, very informative and direct! I suggest writing a script before the video because at some sections in the video I got a little confused. Overall amazing video.
Glad you enjoyed. I dont have time.This is hobby channel I shoot on the fly .Only thing I can do taking some notes😊
@@homecinematech honestly impressive, and talking using only key points is actually a great exercise in speech
@@cescimes thank you I am glad you enjoyed and find this video useful
it's always good to see external hardware with good performance this will create very different scenarios for day time professionals night time gamers and 3d designers editors .Matebook + RTX 4060 will be enough for me
I have a gaming laptop with that has a 3080 with 8GB of VRAM that I've had for 2yrs already. I only wish it had 10-12GB of ram. Was thinking of getting a 4080Ti w/10-12BG to see if I can squeeze out another two years of gaming. It does have a TB4 port.
Yes it does have thunderbolt 3- 4 supporting but limit is 4070ti like I've told in this video and you have to consider your cpu + gpu combination for bottle neck potential
Thanks for this great video. I got a little bit confused along the line.
Are you saying using thunderbolt connection has a limitation on bandwidth?
Can I use a connector that has an M.2 to PCIe cable instead? Will this reduce bandwidth difference?
If I plan to use the external GPU for just 3D rendering and No gaming at all. Do I really need to worry about this bandwidth issue of the thunderbolt connection?
I dont think limitation of thunderbolt 3 and 4 not a problem for general users. ua-cam.com/video/NapKC7KxfaE/v-deo.htmlsi=OzopQ4uV3klH68Uj video for another channel again from me . Might give you some idea
Hello i have i7 1360p 16gb ram samsung galaxy book. Will aorus gtx 1070 gaming box go good with that? Also tell me other compatible options to avoid bottleneck
Great Video man, a true review of Egpu situation in 2024!
Thank you. I am glad you've found it useful
Man thanks you so much for this reviews i really helpful for thsi content ❤❤
I have an inspiron 15 7577 and thinking to use an egpu.
Do you think a 4070ti as an egpu on a victus 15 with ryzen 7 5000 series, 3050 ti , 32 gb ram, would be worth the upgrade, id probably use the gpu at later date for pc build as well.
www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/3907vs5210/AMD-Ryzen-7-5800H-vs-Intel-i9-13900H table shows power difference between 5800h and my 13900H in this video review you can add your cpu model and see the difference that will show your cpu can cause or not a bottleneck with RTX 4070ti
Why don’t they create a universal pcie port for egpus and instead try to squeeze that into a USB C port?
So what do you mean if that we can't use egpu if the laptop we bought didn't have dedicated graphics? Like Nvidia graphics? Even if we have the best CPU?
if you watched entire video without skipping this question should not be coming from 2012 youtube profile. I said if you have internal GPU you have to connect thunderbolt before starting your laptop like installing GPU to a PC from PCI express. if you try plug in an out during using it might not see so you have to restart that's all. I speacially mentioned near end. it is ideal for laptops without GPU but good cpu. ( You did not watched it do you ? )
Thanks You!
I have asus zephyrus duo with i9-10980HK and rtx 2080 super max-q 8GB memory. I'm thinking about buying EGPU. I want maximum gaming performance on a 1080pon laptop (300hz display) and on the attached 4k monitor with an HDMI 2.1 port. I also have a Thunderbolt 3 connector. What graphic card could you recommend to me that will work with my components? Best regards
in my test I ve used intel 13900h cpu and you are saying 10980HK.
www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/3700vs5210/Intel-i9-10980HK-vs-Intel-i9-13900H difference is big I guess (havent measured but your cpu might create bottle neck) you have to look for benchmarks I've checked for rtx4070 people says i5 13600K
www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/3700vs5210vs5008/Intel-i9-10980HK-vs-Intel-i9-13900H-vs-Intel-i5-13600K
That means you should go RTX4060 in my opinion your notebook upgrade is more important than your gpu upgrade .
You can sell and get slim one without GPU and add external ?
Is there a step by step instruction guide for setting up rtx4070ti external GPU with windows 11 laptop ?
I don't think there is a detailed video as this with comparing external with internal. Everyone uses RTX4090 ( which is top level and unnecessary if you ask me ) you can do it it is not hard users manuels als will help you
Great video, thanks.
What about the noise of the external gpu ?
Lot less than internal gpu of a laptop fan 😎
@@homecinematech.
Thanks
This is amazing!
I want to build a gaming PC or to buy a PS5.
With the PS5 I will only get a gaming console, whereas if I built the PC, I would get not only a gaming console but also a full PC to study, work and play.
I have my pretty small portable silent and light 13 inches laptop with Thunderbolt 4 without a GPU.
If I built a pc I'd have to buy a GPU either way + Case + RAM + SSD + CPU + MotherBoard + Cooling
I can buy now only the GPU (less upfront investment), and start to play!!! yes I might get little less performance than the GPU connected to the PCI, but if I needed more power I could get the remaining components for the full PC.
I wouldn't have to buy again a GPU.
The flexibility of this is stunning!
I am glad you've found my video useful. I am thinking the same I use Geekom A8 with My TV and Projector Setup hopefully soon make a Mini PC + E-GPU Video too ua-cam.com/video/ZH9_FS7Vr-4/v-deo.htmlsi=9_Jz_ALXdZN7J56v you can also think of as an Laptop Alternative
What GPU do you recommend for MacBook Pro 16 2019 (I7 9650H / 32 GB RAM)? I think about RTX 4060 Ti, but I think CPU is weak for this... I will use it for games by bootcamp.
CPU is very old in my opinion instead of wasting your money try to buy a mini PC and add external GPU later on for more performance . You can check my last mini PC review videos
"direct" mean you connect the GPU to the laptop via an eGPU enclosure, then connect the GPU to the monitor via HDMI. So the GPU will be connected to both the monitor and the laptop, right?
correct :)
What eGPU setup do you suggest for 2 monitors (not gaming): 3840x1600@144Hz and 4k@60Hz
Probably many vga cards can handle. You can look for GTX 1050ti
DisplayPort 1.4 | HDMI 2.0b | DVI-D DL
7680 x 4320 Max Digital Resolution
Could handle what you need but you can double check
I plan on using a 4070 ti super. Paired with Asus 14x q420 (i7-13700H) I'm thinking I don't have to get "Thunderbolt Control Center" Shouldn't it just work with nvidia driver only? Using the same th3p4g3. Direct setup.
You dont need anything nvidia driver is enough but if you have gpu like I mentioned you might need to restart or connect before starting laptop otherwise even if you see the hardware it might not work as it should.Just to make sure
Thank you
Oculink has entered the chat...
Don't use Thunderbolt use Oculink, it can handle 4090 no problem.
Oculink is not popular and devices are more expensive and custom. I think USB 4 and upcoming thunderbolt will be much more compatible😎👍
I love having an egpu for my legion go. I got a 4070 but returned it to get a 4070 super, which should be here Friday.
it helps a lot if you are working traveling and gaming or producing I guess it's opening the doors of more portability to professionals and people who love to work and travel light weight
Just following up to see how the upgrade is going?
@em0jr The 4070 super is great, it's a nice setup for when I'm not playing on the couch.
4070 and 4070 super are the same card and get same performance lol
@@joshua7426 What a stupid thing to say.
Great video. Do you think it makes sese to pick thunderbolt 4 i5 12450h over a Ryzen 7780hs with same memory and dGPU?
I don't know 7780HS but if you mean 7840HS here is your chart www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/4727vs5258/Intel-i5-12450H-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-7840HS this will show you performance difference if you want to add e-GPU you want to best CPU possible. in this video I've used 13900H with 4070ti and even that made couple of frame loss because of bandwidht but right at limits soif you want to use RTX3060 then yes you can choose 12450H but then why do you spend that much of money to external hardware you can but laptops with internal gpu.
You cant Upgrade CPU of a Laptop later that is why you should buy the best CPU possible
@@homecinematech is the TB4 a valid reason to pick Intel over AMD ? It adds points in upgradeability department to Intel over AMD.
@@PPSRHD if you are going to go intel direction you should go 13900H or Ultra 185 something
@@homecinematech that's waaaay above my laptop budget.
@@PPSRHD external gpu is not for free
You have to buy power supply
External GPU probably above mid range
And good enough cpu laptop to keep up with it. This setup is not for budget. This consept works if you want to but only cpu powerfull thin laptop and want to use GPU power at home or office. Performance always has a Price 😎
From what I researched, Oculink provides 57% better performance of data transfer speeds than USB Thunderbolt 4 port.
Yes than you have to find laptop that is slick and good looking with oculink ?I havent seen so many yet. if you buy gamer withmovulink that kind of defeats the purpose of it doesnt it ?
@@freedomisdead9638 Oculink is not new as you think because of gpu it is there with SCSI cards for multiple hard drives have oculink for a long time because they need fastest port possible. but as far as I know gaming laptops with oculink is heavy or dont exist in slim line of laptops yet ?
@@homecinematech oh, i thought it was something new, because minisforum PC only released Oculink port on their latest products, most of people interesting in eGPU are miniPC and laptop owners, and very very few have the oculink option unfortunately.
@@homecinematech if i'm not mistaken GPD Winmax 2 2023 supports oculink?
@@polisi4 if you have GPD devices than you could use Oculink adapter have you check oculink adapter prices ?
Very well explanatory video! Can you plase write in detail, howto connect the gpu into laptop in order not to lose performance?
How do you know if the gpu and cpu are matching? And what do you mean by that? Thanks.
they need to match as speed so if you think you can use your 4 years old CPU with latest gpu probably your CPU will bottleneck this setup is ideal when you have new CPU Laptop or Mini PC + Until the RTX4070 cards you are good to go
What about for AI model training? Do you know what the performance difference is?
I havent tried it but does it passes te cuda core count of 800-900$ vga card ? İf they do there could be limits but otherwise I dont think there will be problem for low powered AI cards will be having too much limit with thunderbolt4
i have a an hp envy dv6 notebook with an Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3630QM CPU with no gpu which external gpu would you recommend
I dont recommend you an external GPU cost you need to update your pc www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/1444vs5157vs6044vs5210/Intel-i7-3630QM-vs-Intel-N100-vs-AMD-Ryzen-3-7335U-vs-Intel-i9-13900H this chart will give you idea. Your CPU might be an i7 on the name but speed is intel N100 Style your first need is upgrade PC not external GPU
i have a Lenovo AIO desktop. How can i achieve this ?
if you have thunderbolt 3.0 you can use it same way I did . Just dont forget to buy right vga card dont create bottleneck since you have embeded cpu and no cpu upgrade later choose your VGA according to your CPU
Do you know anywhere selling the Dark EGPU in the united states? I been searching but I can bairly find any links in English.
Hi if you would like to buy same adapter www.newegg.com/global/sa-en/p/2NS-00K3-00002?item=9SIB74JK9C1197 you can use this link. in this video I did not used case of it but if you want to use smaller GPU models you can use case too
i have an asus vivobook with i5-13500h and integrated intel gpu only. can i go for rtx 3060 or something like that? also can you tell something about cpu overheating will it worsen temperatures?
İf you have only intel intagrated graphics this will fly your performance . Cpu wont be heating because your load will get lot less since it will be outside of your laptop.Just like my example in this video you can look for RTX 4060 if the prices are close
thank you @@homecinematech can you recommend which connector/ gpu enclosure i should use i have a thunderbolt 4 port.
@@abhijeetmohapatra6873 www.newegg.com/global/sa-en/p/2NS-00K3-00002?item=9SIB74JK9C1197 this was the unit in the video but I havent used the casing because car was little bigger and show you guys better hardware
Hello, I am looking to make this kind of setup I have a budget of 1200euro. Will it be possible ?
İncluding laptop it is difficult but excluding laptop you can
What if my laptop doesn't have thunderbolt 4 but instead usb 4? I have asus tuf a16 advantage edition and I want to use egpu. Is it possible?
Without thunderbolt speed sorry you cant use it usb 3.0 sucks at this level
usb 3.0 speed 5Gbps
thunderbolt 3 speed 40Gbps
you can guess why we need thunderbolt or USB 4😎
@@homecinematech ah i see, so mine is not usb 4 😭. Might as well buy a new laptop.
my laptop is ideapad gaming i5 12500h with 3050, how much improvement i will get if i use Th3p4g3 with 4070 super ?
@@hamzahdzulfiqar8173 you need to consider your cpu might also create a limitation.this setup is not cheap. İt is more suitable for newest apu thin high end cpu model laptops instead of updating old existing laptops with lower cpu
@@homecinematech lets say i get 4070 or 4060 ti , how much bottleneck i would have compared to desktop, like 100fps vs 130 fps, or with score for benchmark
@@hamzahdzulfiqar8173 videoda yeterince açıklamıştım ama türkçe versiyonu daha kolay anlaşılabilir ua-cam.com/video/TtDiAjF4_3o/v-deo.htmlsi=EkRQ1tJBHzulE5PO rtx 4070 e kadar bottle neck yok işlemciniz gpunuza denk ise
Hallo Thank you for this informative video,
I have ASUS G752VS-BA191T and I use it for 3d (blender)
i7-6700HQ
16 GB ram
Nvidia Geforce GTX 1070, 8 GB
Witch EGPU would be compatible with it please .
Thank you
www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/2586vs5210/Intel-i7-6700HQ-vs-Intel-i9-13900H link will show you difference of my laptop CPU in this test and yours.
Your system is very balanced but if you put high end powerfull GPU externaly you"ll have bottlenech with yoyur CPU - GPU combination seems like you have to upgrade your laptop first and for that you can consider slim models wothout dedicated gpu and add this sort of solution or buy something like mine internal 4060 or 4070 its up to you
but you cant make an old man Rung like Usain Bolt 😊
this setup suits most of the time for high end CPU slim laptops to combine with high level cards
Thank you for the respond :) @@homecinematech
What does indirect e-GPU mean vs direct e-gpu?
Açıklamıştım ama dikkatli izlenmrmiş olabilir veya ilerleterek izlemiş olabilirisniz ua-cam.com/video/TtDiAjF4_3o/v-deo.htmlsi=poZmru5P6wS9jU1M videosu sizin için daha iyi olabilir
If i dont have Thunderbolt 3 Port in Laptop and have only usb 3.2 working ?
@@jimich81 usb 3.2 and usb 4 would do the trick according to your computers port supported speed
@@homecinematech this egpu working with usb 3.2 ?
What is indirect vs direct?
Direct : You get visual from VGA cards HDMI port
İndirect : getting visual from your lağtops HDMI Port data has to go inside laptop afain that slows down because extra use of same bandwidth
Not Premier lol?! Why not?!
There was a comparison of performance losses for eGPU (Thunderbiolt or Oculink) vs proper GPU (desktop):
- Thunderbolt is more unstable (from game to game, 3d task to task, disabling rebar, etc.) and loses you an average 30-60% performance of the card (be it 2080 or 4090)
- Oculink is quite rare (need a special m.2 slot extension, e.g. instead of your WiFi card) but offers much more stable results and roughly 10-20% performance loss.
But still, this whole setup and juggling with settings will actually provide you with performance boost for much less money, than buying a $3k gaming laptop with worse performing mobile chip. The price of convenience, though...
Thanks for sharing I am also creating content and reviewing pc parts over 10 year for Turkish language so I know the things you said. Oculink is also kind of old considering scsi cards and multiple storage aplications with need of lot of bandwidth. I am pleased to use it with a practical port like thunderbolt or usb4 in next gen so I think usb4 will be the general use scenario of these and if you need hardware over 4070ti than you can buy a pc an live a happy life 😉 I would like to see your comments in this channel .Thank you for watching
Damn, you really read out processor and GPU numbers in the longest form possible. 🙃😜
thank you for being careful 😊
Intel Nuc Pro 13 + eGPU work great.
My ideal pc setup for last 2 years
I don't understand. Whats the difference with building a gaming pc?
To be Able to Move When You Want or Boost When You Needed ! You can Also Apply This to Mini PC models Like ua-cam.com/users/shortsMQaJeo7NRgs?si=1prbtZLqC95ctcNS this video detailed content will arrive soon
the keyboard though
What do you think about 7940hs,4060 discrete graphics with similar eGPU as yours
Do you have Thunderbolt Slot for an AMD cpu ?
@@homecinematech it has usb 4, and it’s thunderbolt 3 compatible
@@cheeseswears I thought the same thing when you say about USB 4 well for my perspective CPU is very similar my i9 13900H and potential performance will be similar in theory but ! VEGA AMD APU gpu driver might crash with nvidia driver if you can overcome that than if you try share your results. in future coming videos I plan to create content with powerful nuch style systems like Geekom, Beelink and others ... but I cant tell you when it will happen. Don't forget to subscribe
@@homecinematech thanks for advice! Just picked up the laptop and trying to see what are the capabilities of it, haven’t had a windows pc in a long while. I’ll let you know the results when they happen.
@@cheeseswearshello, i ordered laptop with same cpu as you. Is iGpu working?
It´s posible to use laptop Thunderbolt -> eGPU single way and eGPU -> Laptop HDMI for rendering instead of using an external LCD monitor to achieve same results as indirect processing?
it might be possible for rendering and calculations but still there is total bandwidth so still 4070ti will be max card for thunderbolt 3-4 setups. Ihavet tried this focused on gaming most in future I might test this too
great
Can i use egpu for 3d modeling?
ofcource you can it's the ideal way to use as much as possible GPU Power for detailed work
Only if you have a bare bones computer without a decent graphics card... 💥
Even with a laptop has integrated graphic card you might want to use this power or you might use it with mici pc models with good cpus inside
Hi, your video is very helpful. Have questions for anyone's recommendations, Im planning to buy a sager NP9372W laptop with specs:
Intel® Core™ i9-14900HX
GeForce RTX™ 4090 16
Thunderbolt 4
What is the max NVIDIA eGPU card i should get? Im debating rtx 4070, 4080, 4090 (i know overkill but im planning build desktop later and reuse whatever eGPU i buy now). And would it improve graphics performance given the laptop is very powerful by itself?
More than RTX 4070ti will be creating bottle neck for egpu and you cant have internal RTX 4090 performance from anthing else. I suggest buy your laptop and wait a while for e gpu and you cant use both gpu models in same time for graphics becauae of drivers. righ now RTX 4090 is hard to find or expensive because its been used Ai calculations .
does anyone know if the RX 7600 XT 16GB will work?
AMD and Nvidia will work question is what is your internal gpu because if you have nvidia from your laptop drivers could conflict one to another. if you have intel or AMD CPU with onbard GPU or APU wont be a problem.
@@homecinematech thank you for the reply. I have a mini pc which has a Ryzen 7 5800 u with integrated graphics. So I must be ok.
@@kyrillosm6451 if you are going to use AMD apu with AMD external gpu theoratically you are good to go👍
What if I have an RTX 4060 and want to use a RX 7600 XT
@@user-ut9tr5eh2e in theaory it should work but I cant say anything for granted because of potential driver conflicts
Will this compatible with a Mac Mini ?
Mac M1 / M2 M3 kind arm based models removed the support but if you have inrel based mac you can try
@@homecinematech I have M2
@@NIIJIKIWENH than sorry you are stuck with internal gpu you have. That is why I am still using windows Until Qualcom + Windows on Arm is optimised mac has a chance after that people will convert pc much faster in my opinion
To not approach a review like this while considering the incredible demands and needs of local iteration of leading LLMs and Generative AI models (a.k.a. checkpoint files) is VERY bizarre. :-S
~ Simple install Ollama, and download any number of AI models. This might offer some minimal understanding as to where all of this is heading and why so many more markets of people are going to need to run eGPUs in 2024 and beyond.
expensive price for egpu docking
if you can add vga to a laptop than go right ahead without an adapter. Expensive definition depends on your expectation some people expects Porsche quality and performance for vw golf price and that is called dream not a real life
Ugh i can see the stuttering in your into video alone, for anyone looking yes it worth it, why would it not and you probably don't want it in the configuration this guy has got it in
Videos have been shot 24P games are having lot more fps so what you see is normal this is not gaming channel and I am not making gaming reviews here. When I shoot 60Frame or 120 just because I can it will cost me hudge space of video files and no return in youtube views !!! but if you want to learn how I know all these because I create content over 15 years in it for nvidia,amd,and many others ua-cam.com/video/NapKC7KxfaE/v-deo.htmlsi=0ULcF7L9Od0YmPfT
Merhabalar, Türk müsünüz ?
Abi ingilizcen akıyor
Such a lost of time
you are the only person as you can see. You might want to change your understanding first before making judgement