Laptop Gaming eGPU For Only $100? YES!
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#gaminglaptop #egpu #externalgpu
I like EGPUs for sharing a GPU around a house, not everyone games at the same time and it makes sense to share the GPU.
That's an interesting use case! Very cool
I got an AIO for school. It's a good processor and ram but integrated graphics. Gonna use this as my solution
Even then, $300 Steam Deck for everyone
eGPU for couch-gaming together
Happy to see people are still into this 👍
i just fried my nvidia gtx 1650 ti mobile
so yeah i'm buying a new epu now
its getting more popular lately with oculink since the handheld came into existence
@@machaiah3844 nice😂
@@machaiah3844 How did you fried it?
With the handhelds out now there's a clear reason why people want their device to be what it is and have a little boost here and there
To all my fellow broke gamers, there's hope ❤
Real, I found an empty pc case in a dumpster so I’m doing this to my laptop and making a switch style pc
For reall😂
Most broke gamers do not have laptops with TB3 ports.
@@mughug9616rill
@@mughug9616t480 ain't that expensive lil bud
A major problem you will have is the T480 only has x2 lanes dedicated to the Thunderbolt. Sad really. At least with the newer Lenovo is adding an Occulink port. And an Occulink dock is only $30-40
what is the port…m.2 or thunderbolt
@hareezbenjamin2085 thunderbolt 3 (with only 1 pcie lanes vs the 4 of higher-end tb3 or tb4)
@@s.omarnoor1380 There is no Thunderbolt 3 connection with just one lane. It's either a 2 or 4 lanes PCIe 3.0 connection depending on the used controller.
@@gauntr oh sorry I meant to write 2 mb (I said "lanes")
Which is a good Occulink dock and a compatible mini PC in the current market?? I don't want to buy an expensive mobile GPU( 4070 in a laptop 😭
funny enough I just saw this dock advertised to me and was curious how it would work and bam this video showed up in my recommended, great video!
Thé excitement in your voice >>>>> 🔥
tu est francophone ?
yes
So you're reviewing a dock. Not an egpu. Got it.
Which is a very important part of egpu that most people seemed to not talk abojt. If you want the performance drop data, its available basically everywhere. Up to 25% decrease, partially mitigated by using external display.
eGPU enclosure: 100$
GPU: at least 300$
Power supply: 50$
That's 450$ for a cumbersome setup, and doesnt even include a laptop. For 800$ you can buy a decent gaming laptop from Asus or MSI.
But still, I think it's great if you have all the spare parts lying around or maybe to game on your work computer...
Upgradability 0,
It's about the upgradeability and not to mention laptop GPUs are no match for desktop GPU, despite the same names. In the future you can buy a desktop and reuse the GPU or replace the old laptop or upgrade the GPU, in the end it opens up a lot of options without too much investment later on.
its for those who bought stylish laptop w no gpu and want to play games at home, instead of buy another pc
Except laptop gpus are not equivalent to their desktop alternatives. But this setup makes the most sense if you already have a laptop. It could be quite handy though, someone might prefer 14 in laptops which is almost unheard of in the gaming side.
But at least $300 for a graphics card? I got some decent performance with my old 1070 ti which is now ≈ $100 on ebay.
Thank you very much for this experiment, and sharing your reasoning.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for the support! 🙏
Another great option OneDock EGPU.
The PSU can be a laptop charger intead of this whole block, if you value portability. (+ cleaner look)
It also support thunerbolt 4 and Occulink.
Which charger did you replace the brick with?
@@D1mj28 Slim Q 330w charger.
There are 450w and 600w chargers but for my need that was enough.
@@helmeston which dc converter would I have to get for it too fit?
That's good to know, my asus rog comes with a 350w AC charger :D
@@helmeston ?
You should use oculink, its cheap has better performance than Thunderbolt, only side effect is, you need to turn off your computer and then you plug your graphics card
I will double check, but I think the T480 only has x2 lanes for the M.2 and x2 for Thunderbolt. So minimal if any gains, and you will have trouble with storage because there is not a lot of choice. Maybe 2242 M.2 SATA is the only other option.
No idea this even existed but definitely was looking for something like it. Thank you!
That's actually not a bad deal. I have no need for one of these but I find them fascinating. Thanks for the vid. I would like to see the benchmarks without the igpu to compare with/without it.
Jason churning out the vids like a wildman!
Working my ass of for you bro ❤️
@@JasonWitmerYT Off*
This seems like a nice pairing with a handheld
yes if you wanted to drive an expensive monitor with a handheld.
I was thinking the very same thing I'd love to get a eGPU for my legion go
Look into portable external gpus. They're a thing now. Gpd makes one.
turned out pretty good
Lookin pretty good
I needed this video
thanks!
You were just gonna say "good" then proceeded to correct yourself to "pretty good" 😂
i have an Alienware Alpha R2 with the Graphics Amplifier eGPU and a GTX 1660 ti and its great. Alienware uses a proprietary connector which connects directly to the CPUs PCIe lanes so theres no performance loss or overhead like there is with Thunderbolt.
I have a Dell Precision M4800 and I want to do that, but I can't. I don't know where to buy the parts and how to find the appropriate graphics card. Can you tell me how you did that?
@@اناكندي your computer (Dell m4800) doesn't have thunderbolt ports or any M.2 PCIe slots so there is no way to connect an external GPU up to the computer. The only way to upgrade graphics on your particular model is to swap out the internal GPU which is a special kind of card called an MXM type-A add-in card. according to dell, the 3 GPU cards compatible with your computer are the AMD FirePro M5100, NVIDIA Quadro K1100M and NVIDIA Quadro K2100M.
@@اناكندي My personal advice is don't even bother trying to upgrade that computer. Its a laptop with 11 year old hardware. i recommend that you continue using it for now until you are able to afford a replacement. its 2024 and its time to buy a new laptop.
@@nickhowatson4745 I will install a graphics card on it so that it becomes stronger, as you did, but I do not know the method and the appropriate graphics card.
@@اناكندي your computer (Dell m4800) doesn't have thunderbolt ports or any M.2 PCIe slots so there is no way to connect an external GPU up to the computer. The only way to upgrade graphics on your particular model is to swap out the internal GPU which is a special kind of card called an MXM type-A add-in card. according to dell, the 3 GPU cards compatible with your computer are the AMD FirePro M5100, NVIDIA Quadro K1100M and NVIDIA Quadro K2100M.
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Stopping all the kids from saying first
Edit: or maybe second
First
As a 40 year old man.: First.
You're still saying first/second, you're just wording it different, people like you are just as annoying as other people who say first.
One hundred and fifty sixth.
@@RobLeonard one hundred seventy-eighth.
Thank you I have been dying for a solution like this you are the best instant subscribe spreading the word your channel is awesome
nice! perfect timing been looking for something to enhance my steam deck-desktop setup performance
I currently have a laptop with a 3050TI on it. Solid CPU of i5 12500h. And might consider this kind of setup when the 50 or 60 series drop in the future if the GPU cant keep up anymore
TDP of the CPU is limiting the already weak CPU. Also the voltages are high for the frecuency. 3.5Ghz on 14NM+++ needs 0.980 mV.
Thank you . I don't have to built a new computer to edit my videos and school work.
Its not "only $100" if you need to get a GPU and PSU which are at least additional $150 if you really want an upgrade for your laptop
Why stop there? You also need electricity, a table, and arms to get this to work. I should have included those in the title too, sorry.
Well, I guess I've found my next "litte brother" gaming pc.
I'd love to get a BeeLink mini pc and connect this up to it.
Maybe I could get a used 1060 6GB card and an SER5 mini pc.
The SER5 mini pc is around €330 or £280, the gpu is about €85 (including delivery) and the egpu is about €150. So for about €550 or €500 if you got the egpu cheaper, you could have a pretty kick ass little pc setup.
Just use the mini pc when you are just doing general web browing to save power but when you want to game just simply plug in the gpu and away you go.
How much power do you expect to save?
Good information.. With the integrated GPU not being used, does that mean more thermal headroom is available to the CPU to reach higher sustained performance?
yeah i guess
I definitely need to try this next month my laptop is fairly okay it runs games but there's quite a bit fps drops cause it runs a geforce 740 on newer games. I really can't afford a new gaming laptop.
dude i have a legion go, and a rx7600 pc desktop, and im moving out so i cant take the Desktop, so i was searching cheap solution as Egpu or selling the PC. and now i can use my GPU and PSU from my desktop to were i go until i build a new one
The CPU is getting maxed out, so surely a less powerful GPU than a RTX 3060 Ti would be a more cost efficient GPU to match with a T480 laptop?
Correct - although it might not be too bad to max the cpu out for awhile and buy a GPU that you might eventually put in a gaming pc.
@@JasonWitmerYT eh, by the time I ever decide to get a gaming PC the eGPU would probably be old junk!
Just got an AIO for school with a good processor and 32GB ram. Only problem is it's running integrated graphics. Thinking about getting one of these to add to it
I love how he said the standalone plug-and-play boxes start around $300 but once you've bought the egpu dock, the RTX card, and the power supply you're up to about $350 anyway. XD
Ok, then add $300 to it if you buy the standalone box. Then you're up to $600. Hope that clears it up
At the time of this comment I just got a really good deal from Microcenter on a 12600kf, an MSI Pro Z790-P Wifi DDR4, 16 gigs 3200 memory for $250- bought individually I priced it at between 400-500. Pretty sure they still have the deal going on. If you need a cheap good gaming build that's what I'd be looking at. The wifi on this board is really good too.
this sounds great for xmas when i go to my parents and can only bring a laptop. can just pop your gpu and a psu and away you go!
TB3 only has less than 25Gbps to fully utilize the 3060ti that you have. You should mod it so that it has oculink and it’s amazing
This works very well with all the 2018 Mac Minis out there. They have 8th Gen multi-core i3s, i5s, and i7s. Their downside is Intel integrated graphics. In fact, until the M1 Macs, they were the system of choice for many video editors. As you mentioned early in your video, the cost of eGPUs has been historically high. This $100 option brings that into the realm of usability.
Older lapotps dont have thunderbolt 3
I love to see the boosts old laptops get for these upgrades
Am I really about to take my GPU out of my desktop for travel
This is actually great for my recently burned Nitro 5 💀.
Thank you so much, this video answered all of my questions and had almost the same circumstances I would do this in
Calling the i5 crap is whack, it was a really solid CPU and can still handle a lot of games today fine.
In reality, CPUs haven't been the bottleneck for games for a long time unless you're trying to play in super high resolutions.
I guess that’s not bad considering you’re using thunderbolt 3 and not 4. 🤷♂️ Just purchased one for my mini PC.
i thinking about eGPU setup:
m.2 to oculink (cable with socket) $15
oculink cable $15
pcie slot for gpu with oculink socket $15
power supply. i have one or may buy used in smaller form factor < $50
GPU. have RX580 or may buy some used for $100
enclosure $20+
Congratulations on the nas sponsor bro! Btw I'm about to be filming my first PC build! Laptop just couldn't keep up with video editing you know how it goes as a fellow creator!
This is a great video Buddy
Thanks! Just trying some new stuff lately
The thumbnail 💀
Would be interested in trying something like this with one of the new dual screen laptops (that are internal graphics only). Could use the dual screen at work, keep your egpu setup with dock at home and rock n roll with best of both worlds.
very inticing, i'll look more into this, might be a solution for my needs :D
😭😭bro the “pretty good” counter , I love this
What about laptops without thunderbolt ports? Many look for female thunderbolt to USB male adapters but they either do not exist or are only sold through the black market.
That would not work. The cable won’t solve the problem. If the type c port on your laptop isn’t labeled thunderbolt then the port isn’t capable of accepting enough data to handle an external GPU. The only other port on an “older” laptop capable would be the m.2 slot - but that’s a different adapter and is too jank because you need to have your laptop lid off to use it lol but it’s a cheaper option than this
@@JasonWitmerYT Your response is very helpful. Thanks 👍
When you're getting CPU bottleneck that's when it's time to turn the graphics where the resolution up, definitely pretty good!
I'm running a Lenovo legion go on Windows 10 I just got an atd UT3G, hoping I won't have a tough time hooking up a 3080 or 4070 TI to it
This is interesting and fun to test out. I have a gaming desktop and laptop, but i also have extra gpus and pc parts...so for 100$ totally worth it to try... definitely will pic this up
Can you make a video of your experience after 1 months use,and impact on pc
Thunderbolt 5 will be the saving grace for eGPUs. TB3/4 still has too much of a performance hit because of the bandwidth limitations of TB3/4 and the requirements of higher-tier modern GPUs.
I prioritised a small and light laptop so decided to leave out the GPU. Then I got a meta quest and realised I couldn’t run any PCVR 😢. So for me this is an acceptable alternative IF it’s cheap enough.
yup. and the total cost, much less than building a PC desktop with a 3060 Ti. i encourage this kind of "economical" solutions. dont get dictated by industry and "brands trends". just do it the way you prefer it. kudos for those small companies that are making those kind of cheap desktop GPU thunderbolt/USB4 docks. thats the "cyberpunk" way.
Literally my laptop except mine had 16gb + 1tb storage. I think a cooling pad or leaving the lid open ( screen off) might help to stabilize the lows. Although the bottleneck is inevitable thunderbolt 3 has an x4 lanes for the PCIe at 5 Gbps vs a desktop X16 or x32, ~20-30% hit vs a desktop but hey it can run Crysis!
Think the ideal usecase for the eGPU is handhelds ... I have just bought the Lenovo Go, and like the form factor and am thinking of retiring my gaming desktop, pulling out the 2070super and doing this. I assume the AMD Extreme is a much more capable CPU than the i5.
The Go is a pretty decent setup, and I was starting to move away from gaming...3 days in, and its been a bit of a reset for me. Started buying some indie games, in-between PC, Console, and Mobile phone games. Early days but the more flexible form factor is interesting.
Any ideas for a case option for this? Awesome video btw! Subscribed
Just FYI. You can split the 24 pin and 8 pin and run 2 GPUs with one PSU with those setups.
Wait WHAT!? For 100$ i can start playing better games on my bs laptop? I have a bs laptop that always lags w all games i want to play better mmo! Im planning on buying a gaming pc but if I could use this for 100$ ima buy it rn literally!
ali express isn"t that bad... I bought a laptop there and its just fine, doing everything I need it to while being on the go.
Why doesn’t the gpu fans spin even when you start the game?
I'm thinking on buying this, I just bought a MSI Claw it has a Thunderbolt 4, and I have a 4070 on my PC, I could use it when I go travel.
Perfect use case!
A test that would be really good, don't know if you have already done it would be one of these and something like a Legion Go and then various GPU's to find the sweet spot of what the Z1e can run since that's a pretty populate APU at the moment.
I already have a cheap laptop and someone gave me a 1650ti and a 500w psu so this is perfect for me
Now it costs 250 $.
Pretty good results :)
Good solution if you already have the power supply
You still need a PSU and GPU to get this to work. If you get my grift, you can already tell this is nolonger a 100 dollar setup. If you already have those things, you likely already have a PC so it completely defeats the purpose of doing this.
Exactly, what's the point other than portability here; you can get a thin ass laptop for $700 let's say and then spend $500 for a new GPU, Display, PSU or just spend 1k and get something like a G14 during discount season which will give you a little bad performance in comparison but is fairly lightweight and has everything without the hassle.
great video!
Already cost 141$...
I just wish there's an alternative solution where the GPU and the power supply are housed together neatly and have the same size as a minicomputer. So, for example, if it's the 3060 Ti desktop version, then it's just the GPU and maybe a single high-quality slim fan to cool it. The dedicated PSU or power brick is then designed to draw enough power for the 3060 Ti and that's it. Yes, you can't switch GPUs and PSUs if you want to, but I'm okay with that as long as it's lighter and smaller in contrast to the conventional setup.
The solution in the video is great as it does give you options, like which graphics card and PSU to pair together, but tbh is a little bit bulky and carrying all that weight if you decide to play somewhere else is going to be a hassle.
Most eGPUs are designed how you’re speaking - but they are 3x-5x the price - some do included the GPU though
They cost nearly the same as RTX 4080 level cards, and don't come with GPU, meaning you have to invest a ton of money, it becomes a very niche category, where very rich people need to use their laptops for gaming/ productivity. But these people still have the option to buy another desktop, so the market for those is nearly zero. The only way for egpu to become popular is if the dock is cheap. There are some egpu like onexgpu which come in smaller form factor but it has no upgrade ability and you are stuck with the GPU they come with.
I used to own an EGpu and the performance loss is heavy. If you are using a bitch ass CPU you'll take a hit, the bandwith restriction is a massive hit. If you used an RTX 4080, you'd be getting RTX 4060 performance with something like a 15watt CPU. I had two monitors hooked up. One playing games, and the other watching a movie, and it couldn't do both. Maybe you'd have better luck on a 35watt CPU, but I still think the drops in performance aren't worth it for gaming. I really think the amount of people who would genuinely benefit from an EGpu are few and far between at present. I ended up selling mine and the laptop I was using it for quite quickly, and now have a desktop and separate laptop for work.
8th gen Intel processors are surprisingly capable. A big leap from 7th gen
i have a rather powerful laptop but only a 1650 4gb inside. With this i can hook up a more powerful GPU
cant believe that old lenovo has thunderbolt port
@@iikatinggangsengii2471 it is a business class thinkpad not that old
Now I need a laptop with thunderbolt port....
hey man can you this if u dont need these anymore
if you unpluged this would your computer go to the default drivers automatically or do you have to do it manually?
Can you run ollama using CUDA with this setup?
bro, what do you mean its not worth it? Pairing this with an affordable mini pc from yesteryears cuts my gaming pc budget by 50%. I did the math. :)
I mean, Imagine having no spare buck for a proper gaming rig ($1000-$1500), but having your employer provide you with a decent laptop for office work (no discrete NVidia/AMD chip). So... $500 (eGPU, PSU, decent desktop card like 2080/3060) - and voila! - you have a nice gaming setup (as long as you remember to disable rebar, cause TB has issues) for like 70% of games out there. The rest 30% just won't work with this setup at all...
Also please use your external display connected directly to eGPU... Otherwise you will be kneecapped by your integrated graphics.
Should I get this and pair it with my Lenovo Legion Go on a monitor?
P.S. I already have a spare 2070 Super to hook it in. I wanna play Hogwarts Legacy and Horizon Forbidden West at higher frame rates. Would this setup work smoothly?
Yep, would work perfect for that!
My lenevo loq 16 with a 4050 and a thunderbolt 4 would really benefit from this.
subscribed i used a old OptiPlex 3010 to game on, years ago hehe
Have a Dell precision 7730 which its GPU is equivalent to a GTX 1060. But I definitely need more power for games like cities skylines.
I have a NUC with a 1165 and still my older 580.
I think this could be fun.
Would having an external colling cpu system be better for a 24/7 gaming laptop ? or do gaming laptops get hot ? I love this idea for having the option to not use so much power for glamping/solar setup.
Why crapy cpu whats your problem?
Thank you so much for this review. I'm keeping an eye on this product on Aliexpress for couple weeks Now. I've a Maxed Out Macbook with i9 and 64gb of Ram, Since I use a lot of 3d programs I'm evaluating an Nvidia Gpu to work on Bootcamp. Does this Enclosure support Power Delivery on the TB3 port?
I don’t believe it does,and it doesn’t work with MacOS unfortunately :(
But you can message the seller directly and they will have more thorough answer
I run ai art on my 3080ti all day which uses 70-100% of the gpu so I was thinking about running this setup with my old 2080ti on a laptop for gaming.
For my next purchase i need to make sure that my laptop have thunderbolt ports!
I think most newer laptops are coming standard with these ports.
I want one of these simply to run 4 4k monitors for work
I was counting "Pretty Good" 😁 Until i found the counter, and Totally i lost to count Then 😁😁
I own a zephyrus duo rtx3080 ryzen 9. But I only have 8gb on my videocard. Would an e-gpu be able to upgrade my gpu memory? Thanks
It wouldn't be able to "upgrade" your gpu memory exactly, it would entirely replace the 3080 in your laptop while its plugged in. So if you plug in an RTX 4090 or something, the 3080, and its 8 gigs of vram in your laptop would stop being utilized (basically turn off), and the 4090 and its 24 gb of vram would take over. Then once you unplug it, it goes back to the standard 3080 in your machine. Hope that helps!
@@JasonWitmerYT but is my laptop compatible with an E-GPU?
If it has a thunderbolt 3/4 port, it is.
Would have liked to see a Timespy Benchmark for the metrics!