Designing What If Cars with Artificial Intelligence
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- Опубліковано 14 лют 2023
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In this episode, we take a look at the sudden rise of artificial intelligence, or AI. The technology is able to creat images and text out of thin air. Can it help us design fictional cars? What will AI do for the car industry?
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As a car/product designer, this has been a hot topic. Design theory has a good video about the potential too, and it has already become a tool for most of us to tinker with
I agree Brenden!
Hello sir I am trying to pursue a career in car design currently so any tips you would like to share?
I also have some queries to ask so if you don't mind how can I contact you?
Can I ask what company you design for? If it's chevy can there be someway to change up the ugly round body style of new ones and get to a more boxy style
AI will be a game changer for sure but it won't completely replace human designers. AI will be able to pump out 100s of concepts in few hours and the good ones can be picked out and improved upon by humans.
Bmw does it for years.
that modern lincoln continental makes me feel fuzzy and happy. i love its perfect blend of modern and classical styling
I wonder if boxy design will make a comeback sometime. We are already seeing sharp angles
@@derkommissar4986 I think it should, I really just love land yachts and really big 1970s American cars and I feel that would be the most appealing design for cars
They are nice looking. I like the high placed door HANDLES.
If the auto industry had not been government regulated we may have had proper auto innovation and today may have cars like that only they may have had innovative engines. We may all have been driving V8 hybrid cars that produced 200 miles to the gallow with a very low carbon emissions output.
@Sir Topham Hatt Seems unlikely the American "Imperial Star Crusier" will return, but the excess of "the personal luxury car" were glorious.
I think the really big thing for AI currently is how much inspiration it allows.
You can really throw things at the AI and it'll spit out, while usually garbage, really interesting ideas that could be applies to an actual design.
That's how I see AI currently. At the moment, it's not good at spitting out good form balanced with functional cues but it can inspire your process. In about 5 years AI might be more resolved but even then, I don't think it will be able to mimic the random abstractions designers fall into by exploiting happy accidents in an attempt to create good balance. A good designer will edit any AI generated piece or use it as a starting point but not for anything final. At best, you could use it to modify each iteration of a design to achieve a final resolution.
I think a lot of people who are lazy think it's a catch all tool. Those who understand design can see it's limitations, which will change drastically in 5 years if the approach is more than just an engineering problem.
As for now, it's just another tool, in my opinion, and doesn't make those who are dedicated to real design expertise obsolete. That's just a hoop dream to those who see everything under the guise of profit only. People with such mindsets will fail catastrophically, mark my words. I've already seen examples of it when it comes to writing.
There is a random abstraction that it can't currently imitate. But, to be fair, average consumers may not notice such minute design decisions, where millimeters matter.
Any company dumb enough to rely solely on AI at this point is setting themselves up for failure.
The real problem with this form of ai is when every car design office has been using it for say ten years; what images do you feed it - since all the existing models on the road were created by the same ai, potentially every design might devolve to a single common model.
@@andrewholdaway813 worst case scenario we'll have AI's opinion on "the most generic car looking car" :)
That's exactly how AI should be used. Inspiration. Not actual work.
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I'd agree except it's not inspiration mashing existing designs together.
It’s always a good day when this man uploads
So true 57 cadillac
Bot.
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@@Gray555 he is a bot. You always see bots like this.
I love old cars so much even if they are ai generated I have a 57 Chevy myself how do you like your 57 caddy and which one do you have?
Maybe not fully replace designers, but I think we might see some more bold designs for concept or production cars in the near future because some designer was playing with AI, saw something cool it generated and said "Y'know what? Looks cool, let's add this to the reference list".
AI is not really designing the car.
Answer: Car companies are going to accept AI-design as the best thing since sliced bread, then fire their designers, then get complete hot garbage designs as a result, then go bankrupt (again), then have to meekly re-hire all the designers they fired a year or two later.
Drawing cars was always my favorite thing to do as a child
Me too! My sister thought I was a weirdo 😊. Nice to know I had company!😂😂😂
It's kinda fun for stuff like that.
Recently got into customizing model cars and the other day I sank over two hours into making ideas with BlueWillow (no daily generation limit, just a limit on your number of concurrent jobs) to pump out ideas for a Ferrari pickup truck, basically exploring what if the Italians ever decided to make an Australian Ute, but with all the stylistic bells and whistles.
I used to work in the fine art business. While doing that, I realised what makes people respond to any particular artwork (and the same thing can be said of any object in which styling is a component). It’s the spark of inspiration captured within it. Not the colour, or the utility, or the materials. It’s the element of humanity that created the work out of nothing and reaches beyond it to connect with the observer. It is the lack of that spark that consigns everything AI makes to being synthesised - derivative, not creative.
Interesting stuff, delivered with Ed's special brand of high-quality non-AI humor.... Loved the "canned bread" comment at the end. :)
Thanks Ed for making my brain come alive... AI is fascinating and also a bit intimidating. My hope is that it doesn't generate prize winning school term papers instead of using a student's fertile and creative brain.
It's not a little bit intimidating
It's absolutely terrifying
I'm all for using AI to generate cool ideas like this, but when it comes to professional design, humans can't be replaced
Not yet. These are baby AIs
You learnt it..they can learn it..a lot faster
@@user-fb9os7hy2y Your username concerns me... you're not a probot are you? Not gonna direct me to a fake telegram account and ask for my credit card details?
Paranoid with a d 🤣👍
@@user-fb9os7hy2y AI-generated conversation
Not sure about the Edsel. Looks even more like human anatomy than the public originally complained about 😅
Ford, or Fool Motor Company designed all the 1958 and 1959 Edsels with a penis grille. The Fool Motor Company (because Ford doesn't know how to design a car) designed the Edsel's grille like if Ford doesn't have dicks. Ford doesn't have a dick, because he is a dick. Ford was like, “o tHis iS a PeRfuCt gRilee. iT dUziNt lUk lIKe A PeeNiS, aNd D Edsel wIll seLL." Ford is just a foolish company that gets all the attention it really doesn't deserve. Poor Edsel.
Ford should have counted on Pininfarina, or any Italian car design house to design the Edsel.
Then that would've been rich history with Pininfarina and Edsel.
Labia?
I don't think that we will see AI designers anytime soon, but AI will be an incredible tool for mockups, idea boards, and concept explorations without effort.
AI will certainly make an impact. 2-3 month ago Midjourney couldn't even draw a normal car, but after they released V4 it changed everything. So in next couple of years it will be absolutely amazing.
Wow, you really did your research on this one. That dark green Lincoln Riviera Mark III looks awesome! The turquoise Cadillac looks like it could go underwater. The black/silver one on the left @4:33 should be in a Batman graphic novel.
Question would be would AI include the safety features that cars have now or eliminate those safety features to take out some of the population as many people who are against AI claim that it might do at some point. Just saying.
The danger is not watching for bias using AI. Believing in just one source for clean, unbiased facts will be the challenge for us all. But as the Aussie song goes "we all have the same views, cause we all watch the same news". As for car design, could it be much worse than the lookalike designs we already have? Great video, Ed.
This was cool, fun, and scary all at the same time.
Hey Ed, this is a fascinating video!! AI is so intriguing, the possibilities seem endless (and kind of scary at the same time!!! ) 👍👍🙂
Hey Ed, have you thought of making video comparing diffrent ,,People's cars"? Like VW Beetle, Citroen 2CV etc
Great idea!
I'm impressed with the edsel on the right at 3:53, the AI has managed to pick up influence from photos of a particular edsel comet prototype, with the four ribs running right down the front end, interrupting the grilles either side.
Great vid, really enjoyed!! 👍👍
The AI generated Cadillac at 4:28, actually kinda impressive. Looks like it could be a car in Fallout 5. I honestly think that version of the 56’ Cadillac is gorgeous, because it’s so over the top. I wonder what the AI would come up with if you told it to mix real classic cars with the Concept cars designed for Fallout 4?
That version of a '56 Cadillac looks absolutely nothing like a 1956 Cadillac.
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These designs look like something you would see in a custom design car shop.
"Next big thing like canned bread" lmao, I simply love your humour.
WOW ! GREAT TOPIC ED! 👍🏻👍🏻
I could see the design department using AI to explore various design directions, then picking ones they like and having the human designers tweak individual aspects, either for better appearance or to make the design better for real world production.
Take the concept of AI driven car design, with a 3D CAD output, then add a modular "skateboard" EV platform.
Be able to design and have created (3D printed) a body to go on a frame that suits a particular requirement (storage space, passenger capacity, specific industrial fleet vehicle requirements, etc .). Could lead to a future where roads all have unique or custom designed cars perfectly suited to task.
Always enjoy your reports but laughed like hell at this one......"Fenders from another planet" was my favorite. Keep 'em coming.
This was very interesting, Art. I hadn't seen this design AI demonstrated for a while, so thank you.
Excellent video. Thank you. I love your videos, your voice, and your smile.
That Porsche pickup done by AI could almost pass for a Rivian EV pickup.
I'm a car show photographer, and was excited to see that Stable Diffusion recognizes my work. It's been fun creating unique cars that look like I photographed them.
I wish I could share them with my uncle that worked for GM, when I was a kid, he gave me the title of VP of future designs and concepts.
4:06 That Edsel, instead of the vertical grille, has two hoods… a normal hood, and one that’s clitoral
I find it kinda funny how he says "instantly fire there entire design department" like that is a good thing
an industry that already makes billions firing hundreds of thousands of people that spent years to go to college and study and have the natural talent and ability that they could be paid for. for a computer program that would do everything completely for free
Great video, Ed. Some cool designs. It is interesting to reflect on a world where humans are only consumers, never actual producers of anything. And by the way, robots *have* replaced humans in factories.
I would love to see the AI created version of the DeLorean DMC-12
Or an Aston Martin DB5 or a Auburn boat tail speedster or a BMW 507!!! 🤠👍
Jaguar E_type, Series 1 restomodded.
At 3:56-- the AI Edsels: They both look damn good, though I'm more inclined to the one on the right. That one is bad to the bone!
AI could allow custom cars where the customer picks not only which options they want but exactly how they want their car to be shaped. Then again, that would lead to a glut of used cars so customized that no one other than the original owner would want to buy.
There is a reason why Bertone and Pininfarina booked the well paid gigs they got.
No AI , just pen, paper , and then clay. Maybe some CAD renderings these days.
When you are a genius , all of this tech gibberish becomes superfluous.
Italians can’t build a car that will last trouble free. But sure as heck they can design cars we desire.
Different but rally great episode,,, continue and good luck 👍🏻🍀 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Very interesting. That green Lincoln concept was pretty cool. Had my first talk to an AI this week when I phoned a major corporation. Definitely a creepy experience...
"Your call is very important to us. Please stay on the line until your call is no longer important to you."
In their book 'Business Think' Dave Marcum and Steve Smith said; "The fact that you can, doesn't mean that you should". AI is certainly interesting, but if you read Science Fiction of, for instance, Frank Herbert, or Frank van Dongen ... it's perhaps something we really have to ponder about very very deeply!
The first blue one with the coupe roofline at low right is awesome
5:20 Wow! Those are Lincolns! I really love the bling one on the right.
I found an inaccuracy in that ai text which is a common one as the internet is typically wrong along with most text books. The 1st mass produced car was the 1901 Olds- as ransom olds invented the process, even Thomas Jefferies predated Ford with mass production.
Hey, with eight headlights I could blind the people who blind me with their overpowered LEDs. My God some of them are so bright I swear its like looking into the portals of Glory!
It's only going to get better and i doubt you have to wait 10 years. Probably more like in 3-5 years.
Also, I had a Mark 3 Lincoln with a 440 in it, you had a ride comfort like a cloud, Miles of hood that stretch out forever in front of you like a sea of hood as far as the eye could see, and then when you push your foot down on the Go Go pedal your head would be burried into the leather headrest and you became an Astronaut taking off in your rocket ship. Your hood would arrive at you destination a few minutes before you would lol they had all kinds of jokes about that car and its hood. Best of the Mark Series in my opinion. Ours was that metallic avocado vegas green with a black hard vinyl top. Not a soft vinyl top. There is a difference. One felt like a soft toilet seat, and the other was like Batman Armor. An absolutely beautiful and wonderful car, back when Ford made good cars. Thanks for reading.
The car at the upper left 3:22 I wish i had more pictures of it.. So amazing!!
Saw a quote saying "i wanted ai to do my chores and maths so i had time to make music and do art, but we got ai that makes music abd art and all thats left is my chores."
And thats how i feel about this as well.
I don't think that ai will replace the whole design team or engineer team as they would likely have to make sure the ai did as asked. What I think it could do is quickly take multiple designs fed to it by the design team and iterate extremely fast. This could lead to better designs you know people will like.
I think you shouldn't say that car companies can fire their entire design department because they might hear you and think that's a good idea.
The difference between the AI's of the past, (which I think a lot of people forgot even existed btw), and today is, it actually works, and it can get better on it's own.
The robot theory you came up with only has at best another 5-10 years before we have an eerily good human-like robot wandering around.
Thank was interesting. Some of them do look or appear better than actual production cars. Thank You Ed.
INTERESTING ED!! 8 HEADLIGHTS ARE GO!!!
4:23 I like the idea the ai had on this car as a 57 bel air mixed with a 59 eldorado would be really cool. it’s just that it needs refinement as some parts do look out of place.
There's no need for human input. Our new style icon: The Borg.
Welcome to our irrelevance.
My biggest concern with such a smart IA, is : how we humans will earn our livings? Will IA pay taxes high enough to provide salaries to humans left without a job? Will there be a human power left to forbid IA from enslaving us?
Some of those designs are beautiful
This was excellent and a bit scary.
I’m a metal shaper/ car builder and have really wanted to build more of these than I ever expected.
After making a few thousand generations with Dalle then Stable diffussion of anything I could think of, I've settled on generating thousands of car designs.
I created so many historical versions of modern cars, modern versions of historical cars, awesome mashups with the Delorean, Viper, Ferrari, etc. It's an amazing tool to explore nascent ideas, concepts and variations but not yet very good at representing an exact vision, sometimes you can't even guide it properly. I've made mashups with the Dodge Viper and often the viper influence was much too strong for the vision I had. I had a difficult time reducing that to the amount I wanted without losing it completely, though it's improving very fast. Fun times ahead.
Ed thank you!
Im not a fan of AI. But I am a fan of E.A.R.!
I know these videos take a lot of time and effort. And I appreciate every one. Thanks again for sharing your thoughts
Loved the “canned bread” line. They have that in Vermont. Dakin farm is a company that sells it.
We need a part 2 of this
hey did a video on using this with automation (suggestion for Ed maybe?) Using it as a design guide for automation has great results.
Fascinating as usual.🍺
Nice video and you touched on a legitimate concern. I worry that the non-creative decision makers will be impressed by what they see and question the role of the professional auto designer and design department. AI does have potential to speed up the creative work flow but the onus is on us to avoid what could be a disaster.
What I find interesting is that AI is a reflection of the thinking of the people that developed it. Ultimately, it's just a machine following rules, but it's the humans that send it in particular directions that they consider desirable.
You can definitely feel the AI pulling cues heavily from existing imagery. It'll be fascinating to see how it goes about it in a few more generations of development once it can be more subtle about where it's drawing design inspiration from. Very cool, though.
If you feed AI the words "Landau" and "Brougham", it launches a drone strike at your house....
It's always important to mention one core point when it comes to AI. Despite its name, AI is not actual intelligence and never will be. The most annoying feature of those AI based channels is they always display the end result of it, something regular people may never manage to get considering the lack of documentation on all of the options available and the fact you have to know how the algorithm works to get good tweaks out of it. Most of the great results are often the results of multiple collages and generations focused on single features of the image in question.
The car in the thumbnail is badass!
I bet custom car builders are already using this at least to get the basic image of what they want to produce. Very impressive tool no matter how you want to look at it. 👍🏻👍🏻
So true William.
More on that subject please!!!
2:23 holy that blue one i want one
The "57 chevy" looks more '57 Buick to me. Btw, thanks for the videos, Ed!
While this could endanger design teams, I see this as an opportunity for a lot of smaller manufacturers to interrupt the big ones. No longer needing massive space, you could rnd and build a car in a small warehouse anywhere.
This could even lead to a point where luxury cars are completely unique one offs
theres one thing it always succeeds at: the Chrysler revival. far better than the actual designers, or perhaps the cut down gimped reality the design became after it left the designer's hands. that 2000's Cordoba is brilliant.
The Lincoln its just perfect, i love the retro
My friend and I actually started a tumblr where we render whatif cars. It's been very fun so far and I honestly really enjoy creating a flying car from the 1990's, and stuff like that.
The main thing I want to see is to see what those Chrysler big tailfin cars would look like without the sharp fins, or at least toned down significantly. In fact, it would be interesting to see what most of the US cars from that era would look like if most of the bulging features were blended into smoother, more streamlined designs.
Some of those ones that you said are outright fantasy look pretty cool. Especially that teal one on the left. Yeah of course it would never make it to the production line of a real manufacturer, but that would be a hell of a custom.
The last Lincoln shown looks the most Lincoln of all.
The thing is that the concept car for the last Continental a lot more along those lines and came out a lot better than the production car did.
All done without a/i.
Love this one
Man I love this! I even like the “oddballs” that have 8 headlights!! Very cool stuff. You should do another video like this. 👍
Artificial intelligence software often has a problem with proportionality. The H headlight issue is very similar to an issue I've heard with depictions of persons having more fingers than normal or more Toes or less toes, particularly on religious art depicted by AI
i don't know what we'd do without caned bread
I asked Stable Diffusion to generate images of a 2019 Pontiac GTO and a 1965 Tesla Model S. It was spot on for both of them. AI is way too good at generating cursed cars that don't exist.
It all makes sense, and a very interesting video. But how have computers been used in vehicle design so far?
Wow the car guy goes everywhere
Some of those designs looked pretty good.
looking forward to when ai can design us megafin chromemobiles that can be 3d printed and dropped on a modern ev chassis.
When the printing press was invented, it uprooted the lives of many. But also paved way for newer jobs that were more specialised. We can probably see the same happen in the future
The best looking car ive seen recently was the cadillac elmiraj. They only made one and i really wish they went into production because i really love it.
Speaking of AI with both Images & Data Base(s) with Existing Parts as Data Sheets with Specifications, it could help Marketing, Styling, The Evil Bean Counters, & Engineering (1) Manage Existing model's parts for use on new models way more effectively (Tail Lights, Brake Calipers & Rotors, etc. etc. (2) Help to decide where to Branch out & where to keep similar "looks". Having worked Big 3, AI can NOT prevent EXEC THUMBPRINTS.
These kind of exercises prove that styling is hard. Its like the generic cars they put in video games like GTA V. The styling is just off, something doesn't flow or look right. Knowing how to make it look right is a skill I will always envy. Cheers Harley Earl and Bill Mitchell for being such masters.
That might be a fun project. Best looking video game cars. The Corvega Atomic V8 in Fallout 3 was handsome. Some of the cars in the original Mafia got me into 30's cars, but none of them hold a candle to the real things. But it piqued my interest in Cadillac V16s.
The retro futuristic cars looked awesome
this... is... so... cool!!!
Impressive futuristic/retro ‘57 Chevy look. I like fins but if we could 3D car print add on panels or fins in my case, would custom shops produce one off looks. You are shorting my neurons out a little but that’s a good think. Apparently nothing helps an Edsel. You could ask for more of a waterfall grill than a horse collar?
[def] Porche: A Porsche that won't drive anymore and just sits in front of your house.