Anybody working in a refinery is very familiar with Lockout Tagout safety procedures. The Unit Operators should have made sure there was no leftover product in the lines to be removed. Each worker has his own lock that gets installed on valves, electrical devices, and other equipment. A scissor device on a valve that needs to remain closed has many holes to accept all of the worker's locks and a tag is placed on that valve warning not to operate it. A worker can get fired immediately for removing somebody else's lock. The unit operators should have verified that pipes were properly drained before locking and tagging that part of the system before allowing pipes or access ports to be removed. People got killed at Tosco when a rigging crew removed a pipe containing naptha that should have been empty. The liquid caught fire and the men rigging the pipe from above got incinerated. Somebody at Martinez Refinery needs to be called on the carpet for failing to isolate a system properly. This accident would not have happened if proper safety procedures had been followed.
Imagine working for a news company that allows you to stand in front of a green screen rather than within the vicinity of highly toxic smoke with zero hazard pay 🤔
These communities existed before refineries moved in. So what if the individuals are younger than the refinery. You are not a true patriot if you think a refinery is more important than a community. For the uninformed, Benicia was California's first state capitol, before Sacramento.
Housing in Martinez is cheaper than most other places in the East Bay … in large part because of the proximity to the refinery. Some people make a difficult trade-off to live there, and then work to improve their new community. I don’t blame them at all. It doesn’t make sense for there to be a refinery there these days with the population density being what it is. And more importantly, regardless of whether it exists there, citizens have a right to expect clean air and safe operations, and this plant keeps having small-scale disasters. A bigger one seems inevitable at this point.
@ I don't blame the residents at all. It is the last locale in the Bay Area where road, rail and ship can connect for fluid transfer (Oakland for containers). That's why the refineries are there, why local and state entities don't do much to regulate them, whether jobs or taxes are anticipated, why the developers built around them. Recently I saw many condos built around a dock in Benicia where no ferries serve. I wonder what services those developers promoted when selling units.
Its critical to ensure that a line is purged and safe before opening. Lots of hydrocarbons will spontaneously combust when introduced to air. This is definitely a mistake on the operations leadership and whoever signed the like opening permit.
I used to work there for Shell. We celebrated our 100th anniversary in 2015. It was opened in 1915, but most of the old units are gone. The LOP unit that is on fire was built in 1964.
The guy is not kidding I work on the other side of that bridge in benicia.. not maybe a mile and a half 2 mi away in clear sight and the roar the sound that was coming from that fire was concerning indeed. !!!!!!!
Maybe just maybe you should not have moved next to it if you are worried so much !!! It has been here longer than you have !! I used to live right across the street from it for years and there was no major issues
Biden drilled more than Trump 45 ever did. And much of our oil isn't suitable for your auto gas, so we have to export and trade to feed your damn F250. I'd add that all the solar panels installed near the Richmond refinery tanks are things Trump rejects as "green new deal" communism. But they add to electric capacity.
Nothing is going to change at this refinery until people start protesting at council meetings and calling their legislators and complaining. This place has been a public menace for years and years, it needs to be shut down.
It will change when the EPA and Bay Area Air Quality Management District levy heavy fines on the refineries causing pollution. There are 5 refineries from Richmond to Rodeo to Martinez to Avon and Benicia. There is a chemical plant at the foot of the Benecia Bridge across Highway 680 from the Martinez Refinery. Refineries are a necessary business these days and they affect many aspects of your life with the products that they sell. This includes the gasoline you use, diesel fuel that keeps trucks and trains moving goods all around the country, the oil to run ships across the ocean and the jet fuel used for air travel.
Not always a choice; not everyone can move away when the refinery moves in. Not even when the suburbs are built around refineries. That's Richmond-Martinez-Benicia in a nutshell.
I mean, it's a refinery, I would never chose to live close to one because there will never not be accidents.
Anybody working in a refinery is very familiar with Lockout Tagout safety procedures. The Unit Operators should have made sure there was no leftover product in the lines to be removed. Each worker has his own lock that gets installed on valves, electrical devices, and other equipment. A scissor device on a valve that needs to remain closed has many holes to accept all of the worker's locks and a tag is placed on that valve warning not to operate it. A worker can get fired immediately for removing somebody else's lock.
The unit operators should have verified that pipes were properly drained before locking and tagging that part of the system before allowing pipes or access ports to be removed. People got killed at Tosco when a rigging crew removed a pipe containing naptha that should have been empty. The liquid caught fire and the men rigging the pipe from above got incinerated. Somebody at Martinez Refinery needs to be called on the carpet for failing to isolate a system properly. This accident would not have happened if proper safety procedures had been followed.
People calling for refineries to shut down are also incompetent and ignorant to reality.
Imagine working for a news company that allows you to stand in front of a green screen rather than within the vicinity of highly toxic smoke with zero hazard pay 🤔
The photographer wasn't as lucky
Why do these people live near a refinery?
These communities existed before refineries moved in. So what if the individuals are younger than the refinery. You are not a true patriot if you think a refinery is more important than a community.
For the uninformed, Benicia was California's first state capitol, before Sacramento.
Housing in Martinez is cheaper than most other places in the East Bay … in large part because of the proximity to the refinery. Some people make a difficult trade-off to live there, and then work to improve their new community. I don’t blame them at all.
It doesn’t make sense for there to be a refinery there these days with the population density being what it is. And more importantly, regardless of whether it exists there, citizens have a right to expect clean air and safe operations, and this plant keeps having small-scale disasters. A bigger one seems inevitable at this point.
@ I don't blame the residents at all. It is the last locale in the Bay Area where road, rail and ship can connect for fluid transfer (Oakland for containers). That's why the refineries are there, why local and state entities don't do much to regulate them, whether jobs or taxes are anticipated, why the developers built around them.
Recently I saw many condos built around a dock in Benicia where no ferries serve. I wonder what services those developers promoted when selling units.
@@hillside21
Wrong dude. That particular refiners started in 1915, there were no neighbors then.
@@hillside21
So what’s your point?
Its critical to ensure that a line is purged and safe before opening. Lots of hydrocarbons will spontaneously combust when introduced to air. This is definitely a mistake on the operations leadership and whoever signed the like opening permit.
Looks like a reason to hike gas prices!
That refinery has been there for almost 50 years
I used to work there for Shell. We celebrated our 100th anniversary in 2015. It was opened in 1915, but most of the old units are gone. The LOP unit that is on fire was built in 1964.
The guy is not kidding I work on the other side of that bridge in benicia.. not maybe a mile and a half 2 mi away in clear sight and the roar the sound that was coming from that fire was concerning indeed. !!!!!!!
Yourself move to live the area, not the company go after you.
residents know best
Maybe just maybe you should not have moved next to it if you are worried so much !!! It has been here longer than you have !! I used to live right across the street from it for years and there was no major issues
Think about how many jobs the refinery makes before you talk about shutting it down it's a dangerous job I think God nobody got seriously hurt
We want everything that petrol brings us. But we don't want it near us. 😎
This isn't funny anymore.
The cause of the fire was an excuse to raise gas prices
Shut it down
shut it down !!
Not gonna happen bud
Drill baby drill, thank you for keeping America 🇺🇸 gas prices low President Trump
yess get rid of our resources!! woot woot!!
Biden drilled more than Trump 45 ever did. And much of our oil isn't suitable for your auto gas, so we have to export and trade to feed your damn F250.
I'd add that all the solar panels installed near the Richmond refinery tanks are things Trump rejects as "green new deal" communism. But they add to electric capacity.
Oil price is up because of the tariffs. It’s not gonna work out the way MAGA expects.
Gas prices will go up again when the tariffs from Canada start. Trump picked a fight he can't win and now everyone in the US will pay for it.
@@hillside21🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Nothing is going to change at this refinery until people start protesting at council meetings and calling their legislators and complaining. This place has been a public menace for years and years, it needs to be shut down.
It will change when the EPA and Bay Area Air Quality Management District levy heavy fines on the refineries causing pollution. There are 5 refineries from Richmond to Rodeo to Martinez to Avon and Benicia. There is a chemical plant at the foot of the Benecia Bridge across Highway 680 from the Martinez Refinery. Refineries are a necessary business these days and they affect many aspects of your life with the products that they sell. This includes the gasoline you use, diesel fuel that keeps trucks and trains moving goods all around the country, the oil to run ships across the ocean and the jet fuel used for air travel.
What move 1/2 a mile away from a refinery?
She doesn't speak fluent English
Never funny don’t live near refineries
Not always a choice; not everyone can move away when the refinery moves in. Not even when the suburbs are built around refineries. That's Richmond-Martinez-Benicia in a nutshell.
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