Thank you for this profound insight into the workings of the human brain and for your work on using it to healing the mind. This has been life changing for me. That recording error that skipped the explanation of schema structure was so unfortunate.. I will now dive into your book and hope to find it there.
Bruce’s work is to reveal the fundamental mechanism of change of the emotional brain so that psychotherapy can be effective quickly and permanently. Instead of partial incremental changes by counteracting the symptoms which can be reversed and thus is not permanent. Transformational change means problems is removed and one is no longer triggered by what triggered one before.
It's just parts therapy and the meta pattern. I've done this same process. I use the emotional trance method on the problem to bring the feelings and details to the present. Once the triggering event is lit up in the neurology we do a hard stop and juxtaposition how they want to feel and be again using the emotional trance method again. We repeat and test to see if the problem is still there. If it is we repeat the juxtaposed reality again
Yep. And looking for contradicting experience isn't needed. By the way, involving parts isn't necessary either. I do sometimes when I can't seem to find the "core aspect" of the problem in a simpler way.
Huberman is very sincere but he talks too much trying to show all his learnings. Dr Ecker’s talking time would be less than Huberman’s and the audience would be deprived of Dr Ecker’s great knowledge.
Dear Bruce. Thanks for your work! Please tell me, in your example of a woman who, after childhood harassment, had a symptom of resentment to the whole world based on the scheme that this only happened to her. Why didn't you start working through all that childhood traumatic experience from childhood, but limited yourself to only refuting one scheme? Indeed, on the basis of those childhood events, many other schemes could have been formed that were not realized by her. And many methods, when such traumatic cases are found, will work through them completely from beginning to end in order to explore all emotions and negative beliefs. In Coherence Therapy, you don't do that? Are you not exploring the entire traumatic experience you found?
Alex - Yes, in Coherence Therapy we can find and work to unlearn and nullify any number of a client’s schemas formed in childhood trauma. However, the point of departure for the work in Coherence Therapy is always an unwanted behavior, state of mind, or somatic disturbance identified by the client. We start there and find the underlying emotional learning, or schema, generating it, then subject that schema to profound learning via memory reconsolidation. A person who suffered severely in numerous ways in childhood (complex trauma) describes numerous such problem patterns, so we find numerous underlying schemas. For “Norina,” the starting point was her chronic anger/resentment reaction. After its underlying schema was found and nullified, and the anger/resentment reaction ceased happening, we did continue to work on other problem patterns that she identified and wanted to address, but they were not related to the childhood sexual trauma. Remember, she told me that long ago she had much therapy for the molest trauma. The schema we found seems to have been the last of it. If I had some sense of another aspect of that trauma's ongoing effects, I was free to invite her to consider working on that, but I didn't. - Bruce
@@bruceecker2761 Dear Bruce, thank you very much for your reply. Now I understand that in Coherence Therapy you go from the current symptom and find the underlying schemas. But you are probably familiar with the EMDR method. In it, if you come across some traumatic event in the course of work, then they work out this event completely, removing all aspects. Why doesn't Coherence Therapy do the same? After all, the found emotional scheme according to the symptom, which was formed in some tragic situation, may not be the only one created as a result of this trauma. Why not work out the traumatic situation found in its entirety in order to remove all emotional schemes with a reserve for the future, so that at some point, due to a trigger, they do not turn on at an unnecessary moment for a person?
I ask myself if Lacan was not talking about MR when he said: "When the traumatic emotion, S1, is linked to the constellation of signifiers, S2, it automatically acquires meaning and, at that moment, the subject stops being neurotic"
Thank you for this profound insight into the workings of the human brain and for your work on using it to healing the mind. This has been life changing for me.
That recording error that skipped the explanation of schema structure was so unfortunate.. I will now dive into your book and hope to find it there.
Bruce’s work is to reveal the fundamental mechanism of change of the emotional brain so that psychotherapy can be effective quickly and permanently. Instead of partial incremental changes by counteracting the symptoms which can be reversed and thus is not permanent. Transformational change means problems is removed and one is no longer triggered by what triggered one before.
Thank you so much.
It's just parts therapy and the meta pattern. I've done this same process. I use the emotional trance method on the problem to bring the feelings and details to the present. Once the triggering event is lit up in the neurology we do a hard stop and juxtaposition how they want to feel and be again using the emotional trance method again. We repeat and test to see if the problem is still there. If it is we repeat the juxtaposed reality again
Yep. And looking for contradicting experience isn't needed.
By the way, involving parts isn't necessary either. I do sometimes when I can't seem to find the "core aspect" of the problem in a simpler way.
Dr. Ecker should go on Huberman Lab
Huberman is very sincere but he talks too much trying to show all his learnings. Dr Ecker’s talking time would be less than Huberman’s and the audience would be deprived of Dr Ecker’s great knowledge.
The 2nd edition was published in April, 2024.
Transformational or profound change can be produced by using one fundamental principle of memory reconsolidation.
Dear Bruce. Thanks for your work!
Please tell me, in your example of a woman who, after childhood harassment, had a symptom of resentment to the whole world based on the scheme that this only happened to her. Why didn't you start working through all that childhood traumatic experience from childhood, but limited yourself to only refuting one scheme?
Indeed, on the basis of those childhood events, many other schemes could have been formed that were not realized by her. And many methods, when such traumatic cases are found, will work through them completely from beginning to end in order to explore all emotions and negative beliefs.
In Coherence Therapy, you don't do that? Are you not exploring the entire traumatic experience you found?
Alex - Yes, in Coherence Therapy we can find and work to unlearn and nullify any number of a client’s schemas formed in childhood trauma. However, the point of departure for the work in Coherence Therapy is always an unwanted behavior, state of mind, or somatic disturbance identified by the client. We start there and find the underlying emotional learning, or schema, generating it, then subject that schema to profound learning via memory reconsolidation. A person who suffered severely in numerous ways in childhood (complex trauma) describes numerous such problem patterns, so we find numerous underlying schemas. For “Norina,” the starting point was her chronic anger/resentment reaction. After its underlying schema was found and nullified, and the anger/resentment reaction ceased happening, we did continue to work on other problem patterns that she identified and wanted to address, but they were not related to the childhood sexual trauma. Remember, she told me that long ago she had much therapy for the molest trauma. The schema we found seems to have been the last of it. If I had some sense of another aspect of that trauma's ongoing effects, I was free to invite her to consider working on that, but I didn't. - Bruce
@@bruceecker2761 Dear Bruce, thank you very much for your reply.
Now I understand that in Coherence Therapy you go from the current symptom and find the underlying schemas.
But you are probably familiar with the EMDR method. In it, if you come across some traumatic event in the course of work, then they work out this event completely, removing all aspects.
Why doesn't Coherence Therapy do the same? After all, the found emotional scheme according to the symptom, which was formed in some tragic situation, may not be the only one created as a result of this trauma.
Why not work out the traumatic situation found in its entirety in order to remove all emotional schemes with a reserve for the future, so that at some point, due to a trigger, they do not turn on at an unnecessary moment for a person?
I ask myself if Lacan was not talking about MR when he said: "When the traumatic emotion, S1, is linked to the constellation of signifiers, S2, it automatically acquires meaning and, at that moment, the subject stops being neurotic"
And do symptoms disappear when that happens?
just edit out the water drinking, and gulping sounds, so incredibly distracting and irritating
New video! Yes!