The reason De Niro was so stressed, not even acting, genuinely scared, his car is being driven from the rear seat by a professional. He's just trying to match his movements, whilst keeping his underwear empty.
The thing I actually really love as well IS the mushy gear shift they were ragging on. It honestly gives the chase that little bit of extra stress, because they're not driving sharp modern sports cars, they're driving a mid '80s Beamer and Peugeot. It's just that little thing of 'of course the gears might be a bit hard to find, it's a stressful situation and you're driving normal family cars, not Supras and Skylines'.
You guys should talk about movie scenes that were shot by talented cameramen, like scenes where cameramen had to do crazy stunts to get the shot. I remember seeing a video of a cameraman using roller blades going like 20 mph to get a good motorcycle shot.
Fun fact: I owned an original Mini that needed much weld (because Mini). I asked the local dudes for a recommendation, they suggested a guy. “Is he good with Minis?” “Have you seen The Italian Job?” My Mini was welded by the guy who worked with Equipe Remy Julienne on the set of the original and never to be equalled The Italian Job. Hell yeah.
the mini,s built for the italian job were built in scotland by fyffe fergusons eagle rally in Johnstone Renfrewshire in Scotland where i served my time before they closed early 90s when fyffe died they built and tuned lots of film and tv cars as well as tuned and built race and rally cars for many famous ppl last tv cars were for tv drama tutti frutti for bbc scotland also some of the team went to italy incase a car needed work during italian job but if you like mini,s we built a spaceframed mini clubman with a v8 mid mounted that belonged to Peter Woodrow of Bridge of Weir id love too know where that went as that car was so fast it scared the crap out me as an apprentice lol Italian job is and always will be one of best car movies just like smokey and the bandit etc when ppl did real stunts in modified cars not use green screen c,g,i like the fast and stupid franchise or the crap remake of gone in 60secs where a heavy old mustang gt jumps over numerous cars in what looks like a half mile jump then lands and drives away lmao car wouldve buckled and bent like a banana and car would have been wrote off at least original elenor had the battle scars for real in original gone in 60 secs cage versions rubbish like when stealing cars as if its that easy to break into and disable alarms trackers immobilisers it may have been easy till early 90s to steal most cars now some are near impossible thats why most car thefts now result in a house being broken into for the keys in my day you used a slim jim steel ruler down doorskin popped the door open jumped in either jiggled ignition or snapped barrel off then start with screwdriver but those days are well over its a shame dont get same class as italian job in this day and age and the remake was bullshit tbh wish films stopped using greenscreen and did proper stunts in real cars but doubt we will ever see again
I had the best time doing this with the crew. Thanks so much for the hospitality! Also: for those asking about the intake manifold and myself questioning the meaning of "manifold.": it's about the context of the movie. A manifold issue wouldn't make your floorboard fall out. Edit:Also don't flash your lights in Germany! People do it but it's a big no no. Was being sarcastic.
Flashing your lights on the left line IS CONSIDERED AS A DICKMOVE. I don't know if il was ironie or not.... Please watch out what you say, or the Americans will do it in Germany and will get a high "harassment fine" from the police !!!!!!
@@ThatDudeinBlue yeah no, it's okay. It needed just that little bit more of sarcasm 👌 And if you are driving fast enough with a big Bmw or Audi, people will make space automatically for you ;)
If you guys have access to a stunt driving expert, you've gotta talk about Mad Max. The original, Road Warrior, and Fury Road (especially Fury Road, that whole movie is the best car chase ever).
I love how Dom’s charger does a burnout AND a wheelie at the same time. It’s great watching the behind the scenes where the car consultant was trying to explain that you could only do 1 or the other, not both but the directors ignored him.
@The Beast the tyres will always experience some slip and spin because the coefficient of friction is never equal to 1 but with VHT and hot sticky drag radials you can get a very very high coefficient of friction. You can’t smoke the tyres and do a wheel stand at the same time. You can either wheel stand, or you can smoke the tyres. You can’t have your cake and eat it too, the physics doesn’t work like that. The grip of the tyres on the ground provides the fulcrum, the torque through the axles trying to rotate the wheels against the stationary tyres grip provides the moment of inertia. With enough grip and enough torque, you can lift a front end before the inertia of the car from stationary is overcome and allows forward movement. An object at rest wants to stay at rest so if you can provide enough instantaneous torque around a stationary point of rotation, you can lift the front end. But if you lose sufficient traction, you won’t lift the front end, you’ll just spin up the tyres. It all depends on which force is greater, the grip of the tires or the force of gravity acting on the front end of the car. In most cases the force of gravity is stronger than the turning moment at the axels but in seriously high powered cars, sometimes it’s the other way around on takeoff.
I had the best time doing this with the crew. Thanks so much for the hospitality! Also: for those asking about the intake manifold and myself questioning the meaning of "manifold.": it's about the context of the movie. A manifold issue wouldn't make your floorboard fall out. Edit:Also don't flash your lights in Germany! People do it but it's a big no no. Was being sarcastic.
Yeah I thought that was such a cool scene when I was a kid... then I learned how cars and traction actually work... the amount of torque you would have to kick out to lift the car and do a burnout... ...if you had that much power i'm pretty sure you would break the rear bumper clear off before you actually got the burnout going... beautiful scene really... but not a great representation of how that much power would get put to the ground... also I am pretty sure the supra in this scene was supposed to have much more horsepower than 550, i don't remember though... it would definitely weigh a lot less... but still had crap tires...
The opening chase for Drive is so underrated! Instead of using over the top set pieces, it uses realism and suspense to make it more engaging than most movie chases.
Flashing your lights on the Autobahn can easily be interpreted as tailgating, which can be punished with up to 3 years jail. If you do it to get the person in front of you to move out of the way, it is by definition tailgating. But even if it weren't illegal, it very much is the biggest dick move you can do, short of crashing into another car on purpose or insurance fraud perhaps.
An american citizen wouldn't get jail time in Germany over violating some traffic rules he would only be fined if caught. It is still a dick move though and only meant for actual emergency situations not to have fun on the autobahn on other people's expense.
@@megapro125 Of course punishment is on a spectrum, but I doubt a foreign national would be treated more kindly, especially if typical traffic violation punishments like removal of driving permits or point systems aren't applicable, if Germanys justice system has no influence on that once they leave for home again. In that case the sentence may even be stricter with fines and eventually jail time.
Just something about Paris and car chases. The Mission: Impossible - Fallout one was so cool to watch in cinemas, no score, no dialogue, just car/motorbike sounds. Whole audience was dead silent throughout, good thrilling stuff
@@gwraffe6812 They didn't say it's a fake word. Rewatch that scene. He basically said that he didn't know what the movie was referring to. And there's more than one manifold in a car. There's 2. The other is called an intake manifold. Besides, it doesn't excuse the fact that the freaking floor started to come apart. Like what?
Well typically a rear-exit exhaust set up runs around the transmission tunnel and is technically under the floor boards. If the exhaust was running hot enough and the floor boards weren't insulated well enough, it could have caused some problems. I'm not saying the bolts would shoot out but its not entirely implausible that an issue with the exhaust manifold could translate to floor boards.
@@ruessrolloff2114 I agree with you, but since nitrous forcefully induces in air, shouldn't the first affected place be the intake manifold rather than the exhaust manifold which comes after? Vin Diesel even says something like "You're lucky you didn't blow the welds on your intake with all that nitrous". He is referring to the intake manifold here, clearly, since the exhaust, like you said, is long gone. It is just a little puzzling and I wish they were a little more precise with the dialogue.
Yeah my top 3 picks for guests are Tanner Foust, Rhys Millen, and Jack Gill. All have worked on a ton of things that if you’re a fan of movies with car chases or racing you have definitely seen them in action. Jack Gill did a lot of the jumps for Knight Rider in the 80s, and has a metal plate in his neck because of the compressive force from landing. He’s still working on the newest fast and furious movies. Tanner Foust and Rhys Millen did the Mustang 350z showdown in Tokyo drift, and I heard Han’s FD3S was the slowest during the city chase, which caused problems for the drivers behind it. Rhys Millen I think was responsible for the dukes of hazzard roundabout drift too.
The car chase in Ronin is so dope because its the only car chase in film that, in my opinion, accurately reflects how stressed and anxious you'd be driving on the wrong side of the road. Plus, it's the only car chase ever where they actually flash fullbeams to warn oncoming drivers. Nice little detail
Ronin is my all time favorite movie. The car chase still holds up to me. It shows real cars being controlled by just adrenaline and hope. Not super cars being driven by experts. Don't get me wrong I love F&F and Tokyo Drift is my jam. But Ronin has that actual feeling of something could go wrong at any moment. It also ended super messy which makes it feel far more real.
If you're doing car stuff now: C'était un rendez vous (1976). There has never been, and never will be, anything like it. It's a short filmed in Paris during the early morning. The story and history behind it is crazy. Such a rush to watch. No closed off streets.
@@admiralbutterscotch5147 Nope. He strapped a camera to the front bumper of his Mercedes Benz sedan low to the ground. He later recorded the audio from a Ferarri and dubbed it in. Still love it though.
The "little wiggle" on the gear change is something you'll see older drivers do, because pre-2000s manual transmission cars had a thing called synchromesh that helped the flywheel (I think?) stay at the correct speed for the wheels on the road. Going straight from one gear to another could damage the gearbox, so old bastards like me (I learned to drive in 1992) had it drilled into us to pause at neutral, and to even give the stick a little wiggle to make sure the car was definitely out of gear before proceeding to the next gear. It just shows that De Niro (or his stunt driver) listened to his driving instructor.
I learnt to drive in the early 2000s, my dad taught me - he was a police persuit driver, and he told me the same thing about checking you were out of gear before selecting the new one
the car he was driving looks like a mid 90's car too (I don't think it was new for the year the movie was made, but not too much older, maybe a 91-95, I am not super knowledgeable about BMWs)
Had to pause and comment cause I'm getting annoyed now but I saw your comment sos here's a thumbs up. I want to dislike the video now but I won't cause it's cc's video not his.
On that Germany fun fact: the flashing lights can be used, but depending on the situation it can definitely be a dock move. If there is no speed limit it’s fine as long as there is space, but if there is a speed limit (yes those exist here) and you are already going faster than that limit and you are still being flashed it’s definitely a dock move. Especially if the drivers then end up just creeping in until you move
What bothers me is that anyone went to Drive and came away angry that they didn't see a fast and the furious movie. I don't want to be friends with the person that thinks any fast and furious movie is better than Drive.
it’s rocking a very good 7,8 on imdb with more than 500.000 votes, made around 75 mio dollars with 15 mio budget at the box office and surely was sold a lot on dvd and streaming. that movie is a success in every way.
German here with some info about flashing lights on the Autobahn: the Lichthupe (lighthonk) is generally considered to be a dick move, and it's usually done by people driving Audis, Mercedes' or BMWs while they are like 20 cm behind your car and you have no way of switching lanes because you are overtaking a row of trucks.
Even here in America, if someone's behind you and flashes their lights (or hi-beams) at you, it is also generally considered a dick move and generally also from the same type of "dicky brand" cars (like Audis, Mercedes, BMWs especially, etc) who are often known to be impatient/overly-aggressive drivers. I also notice a lot of young VW drivers around here who act the same way, usually an 18-20something who has a cheap, slower VW who still thinks they have some amazing racecar driving like an idiot speeding way too fast all the time.
Re: 1972 "exploding" Pintos. The fuel cell was directly behind the drivers side bumper mount. A few things had to happen. 1: the bumper had to be hit hard enough for the mount to pierce the fuel cell, 2: the left hand turn signal wiring had to be sheared, and 3: power had to be going through the wiring at the same time as a fuel vapor cloud was present. The issue was corrected in the late-year 72 car by rerouting the wiring harness to just under the liftback, but by then bad press had stuck. Re: Robert DeNiro hunting for the gear on downshift. on the 1996-1998 Honda accords with the 4 cylinder the shifter was notoriously floppy. All it really took was a soggy torque strut on the front of the engine (Often called a dog-bone motor mount) to make 2nd gear and 4th gear almost lock you out. Reverse wasn't as much an issue as the engine would normally not have any loading on it. The hunting he is doing looking for second I have had to do myself many many times as mentally you know where the gear is, but when you go to grab it the transmission is like "Nope... No again... That's still not it... Oops, that was 4th..."
problem is its kinda been done already. they dont need to top that ofc but should prolly react to diff movies i guess. im talking about the 20 mins WIRED 11 mil views hacker react ua-cam.com/video/SZQz9tkEHIg/v-deo.html
German guy here: Flashing your lights at someone in front of you on the left lane on the Autobahn is absolutely a dick move. Okay... if there is room on the right lane and the guy in front of you stays on the left without reason, it's a matter of opinion whether it's justified or not, but flashing your lights at the guy in front of you is basically like yelling "GTFO!".
@@17cuzzo The guys flashing are not overtaking people who are going 80. They are overtaking people who are going 150, while they themselves think they are on a racetrack.
@@HootMoot It's not illegal and it's not a dick move. Flashing your lights is explicitly allowed and even recommended to signal a hefty speed difference between you and the driver who is likely just coasting on the left lane out of convenience. Even using your horns is legitimate, although fairly useless considering the range compared to your lights. Stipulations: You have to make sure not to blind other participants and, of course, you have to keep your distance and anticipate other vehicles not complying. People being annoyed by Lichthupe alone (that is, on the Autobahn) are missing a huge part of their driver's ed lessons and should take a refresher, because signalling your intent to overtake is completely intended as far as traffic code is concerned. People are being dicks for all kinds of reasons, this isn't one of them.
I can't believe you guys didn't point out one of the coolest aspects of Ronin: the actors are ACTUALLY THERE, in the cars, with the drivers. The drivers are wearing black suits and are sitting behind the actors, controlling the cars with specialized steering wheels from the back seats. That's why Ronin is the only movie I know where the actors look legimitately scared and stressed in those scenes.
True story! He has so much knowledge about the dragging of the vault scene, random information regarding 'loose permits' and the van they struck on the corner was a member of the public etc... Then didn't cover Ronin's ground breaking techniques when it came to the logistics of filming a great car chase. tsk tsk
Old dude here, Pintos were excellent vehicles that car racing enthusiasts like you would probably enjoy. The pinto design flaw, the gas tank had a piece metal in front of it that would be struck by the tank when driven into it in a severe wreck, puncturing the tank and igniting it at the same time. It was corrected with a recall that basically put a piece of material between the two that would prevent igniting the tank. I knew the pintos well. Straight factory you could tach out the engine, dump the clutch and it would frigging GO!. You could smoke first and second gear and leave a little rubber on the road hitting 3rd gear. Been there and done that! It was an awesome little 2300 engine and a fast little car. There was no small factory stock car by any manufacturers of the day that would touch it in a drag race. Yes it was the brunt of a lot of jokes and of course with such a tragic design flaw causing some well publicized horrific deaths. I know you guys are young and might not know about the car outside of its early flaw. The pinto was a very good automobile with a bullet proof powerful 4 banger. Too bad Ford made such a tragic mistake in that original design.
Agreed. I met a few pony stock racers who lived the Pinto/Bobcat platform. And that engine was also used in Mustangs, Capris, Thunderbirds, Rangers, and a buttload of other Fords for decades.
Thank you for saying that-the Pinto had it's flaws but was much better than the Vega and Gremlim's of that time.These young ignorant assholes don't know anything about old cars!
The opening scene from Drive is one of the most intense car chases I have ever seen in my life. An absolute masterclass. I wish they'd talked more about it
@@casuallychallenged very true, and I absolutely loved it for what it is. Apparently the marketing gave the completely wrong impression for a lot of people, though
Bad stunt? There's a scene in Firestarter where this little girl jumps off a bridge into her dad's arms and its so obviously a 6 foot MAN and they end up just rolling down the bank together and it's so hilarious and then it cuts back to her being a little kid it's amazing
I was curious how they were going to explain that David isn't a stunt driver. They should use their connection to David to get an actual stunt driver on the show.
I would have preferred if you could have gotten the driving coordinators from these movies and not just some guy from UA-cam. Craig Lieberman has a lot of videos for anyone curious on fast and furious stuff. He explains a lot of the errors and why they happened. Also, the vehicles aren’t purely drag vehicles so they wouldn’t be running slicks and would still do fine in a race. Also if you count up shifts and downshifts in fast and furious the shifting isn’t really too much. They just show multiple cars.
sorry just now seeing this but I'm a mechanic and yeah... I would have been better to have on this show than this dude. No offense to him but having an actual stunt driver or even a race car driver would have been way better.
German here: Yes flashing your lights in the fast lane is a dick move. The reason people move over is because they don't want to die, because they are going 130km/h and the car flashing lights is going 250km/h. Imagine being rear ended by someone doing 120km/h faster than you. Chills.
I think it's universally agreed that flashing your lights in any normal driving situation is a dick move. The ONLY people who flash their lights are always those who are going at unbelievable speeds and their flashing their lights generally to say "GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY WAY OR IMMA SMASH INTO YOU"
it is also illegal. it is only allowed in emergency situations or to warn another driver about anger ahead (eg speed trap ^^). Same here in Austria - it is bullying. Not sure about Germany, but here the legal way would be to set your left turn signal and hope the person sees it and moves over. - People use the Headlights for Drivers to be recognized. It is also illegal to be in the left lane, if the right one is free. In Austria this can cost you up to €250 (if only it would be more enforced)
Markus Allgaier Californian here. I started driving in Germany in the late 1980’s and the technique I saw back then was the approaching driver turned on his left turn signal to “request” the slower driver move over. I interpreted that as “If there was a lane to my left I would use it to pass you but there isn’t so please move to the right lane.” I haven’t driven in Germany for a few years now so I don’t know if that is still what happens.
Yes, Baby Driver, then 6 Underground. Skyfall and Spectre. Blues Brothers through the Mall. The Rock with Sean Connery in a Hummer doing the Bullitt Route. Against all Odds with a Ferrari v Porsche - Stunt coordinator Gary Davis drove the 911, but it was then-70-year-old Cary Loftin who was recruited to drive the Ferrari. Loftin, who designed car stunts for films including Bullitt, The Love Bug, Duel, Vanishing Point and dozens of others, is simply the greatest movie stunt driver of all time. Would be interesting to have these guys comment on these ...
The manifold they are refering to is the intake manifold (where air flows into the engine, and also where nitrous is injected) if you boost too much air the intake manifold can break. So some would argue it’s realistic
I have watched this movie way too many time and i never once thought of the sentence to be read like that. I always understood it as. Danger. ‘manifold’ incoming. Not the is danger to the manifold/manifolds
Also the manifold on a Japanese car is the first part of the exhaust attached to the engine. Sometimes called the collectors or headers in the US, it's the four-branch of pipes that get so incredibly hot (500deg c) that they can glow red when the engines under duress. Brian's car may well have gotten a lot hotter with nitrous being used so it's entirely legit. The floor plate is just trash though
@@jetsonik but nitrous cools the engine, just like petrol does? Thats why i figured it’d be the intake as the NOS valves are positioned in the intake manifold.
@jetsonik in the US, we call them exhaust manifolds, or headers. Depending on the car, really. I don't know why, but no one I know ever calls them headers if it's below an 8cyl. Strange that you made me think about that. Why do we say headers for old v8s and manifolds for newer or smaller engines?
Ok guys, let me add some clarity. ALL combustion engines (well, almost all) have BOTH an intake manifold and exhaust manifold. The intake manifold is the set of tubes and plenums that feeds air into your engine. The exhaust manifold (aka headers, exhaust headers) is the collection of tubes that feed spent gasses out of the engine and into the exhaust pipe. Nitrous does not cool an engine down. It actually makes it run hotter. It cools down the intake charge (the air inside the intake manifold about to go into the engine) because it is a compressed gas that is being decompressed. It is used in engines because it is an oxidizer. It carries lots of oxygen, which means you can add more fuel, which means more powah baby. This is the same concept as a turbocharger or supercharger. They add air to the engine via compression, which means more fuel can be burned, and more power can be made. With nitrous, this can be risky business, because most nitrous kits do not just inject nitrous into the intake manifold, they also inject extra gasoline (because again, with the new oxygen from the nitrous, you can, and must, add more fuel). That means that now you have a combustible mixture of oxygen and fuel filling your intake manifold. If you’re at high RPM, the air flow is sufficient to keep all combustion in the chamber, as designed. However, if you start spraying nitrous at too low an RPM, you could blow up your intake manifold. This is because your intake and exhaust valves, the things that seal the combustion chamber, are moving more slowly at low RPM. This means the possibility of some overlap between the combustion event in the cylinder and the intake valve closing is higher. Also, the nitrous/fuel/air mixture backs up (so to speak) in the intake manifold, because air velocity through the engine is much lower, and any spark or flame that may come out of the cylinder through the still open intake valve(s) will ignite the fuel/nitrous mixture in the intake manifold. This can blow the intake manifold to bits, and it’s not uncommon. All of that being said, the F&F scene is absolutely bogus. 1. The intake manifold has nothing to do with the passenger side floor board, nor is it close to it. 2. A nitrous backfire (the name given to nitrous exploding in the intake) is unpredictable and no computer could warn of such an event. 3. Even if the computer could warn that the conditions were favorable to a nitrous backfire (low RPM, high nitrous volume, large cam overlap), it would warn you fractions of a second beforehand. 4. The nitrous backfire happens, and it basically kills the engine. Once the intake is blown apart, it is no longer sealed, and any method of measuring air intake and fuel metering is gone. The car will die.
I also agree. I don’t understand all the comments talking about how this movie is boring. The lighting and music alone are enough for me. Now put in some car chases, tension, hot women and violence 🤤
@@FramesPerSecond it is awesome, thrilling. But the one from FALLOUT is absolute madness. Considering some of the rigs didnt work and they had to go raw on it.
The wiggling the gear stick is common on a car with a heavily worn synchromesh, which is a common issue in BMW E34s. Also, the autobahn thing is rubbish. He may have driven a lot of cars but this guy doesn’t seem to have the same level of expertise we’ve become accustomed to in these segments.
The wiggle on the gear shift in Ronin is necessary. Those old Peugeot gearboxes were very clunky and wouldn’t have downshifted so easily at speed so he probably had to double dip the clutch into neutral and then downshift.
@@Yora21 it is not illegal. §5 StVO states that you can signal your intend to overtake someone with a short sound or lightsignal. While it is legal to flash the lights it should only be done if strictly necessary (for example if someone is blocking the left lane for no reason whatsoever for an extended period of time).
@@khoernchen3490 The way they are using it is absolutely illegal. You can show your intent to overtake someone, but the way they are using it in the movie is to pressure the driver ahead (Fine of 5-10€). Also is can be seen as coercion, which is an offense under criminal law. In this case you can either get a fine or even go to jail for up to 3 years. And of course you loose your driving license. [www.bussgeldkatalog.org/lichthupe/#:~:text=die%20Lichthupe%20missbr%C3%A4uchlich%20bet%C3%A4tigen%2C%20kann,den%20missbr%C3%A4uchlichen%20Einsatz%20von%20Schallzeichen. ]
The wiggle in the gearshift on the Peugeot in Ronin is legit, Peugeots have the weirdest manual gearshift ever its literally like a knife in a bowl of jelly, just stir it around and find a gear
The original Gone in Sixty seconds would be fun to see reaction to. On the DVD I have there is also a short feature with the Elenor Mach1 being thrashed around by a professional 30 yrs later with Haliki’s wife in the passenger seat.
@@ross5914 no like the gta mission in gta4 was literally based on the movie. The stunt coordinator for the movie is the same guy that handles mission dynamics for Rockstar games.
This double pulling on the gear stick by De Niro’s character could be an attempt at a double declutch technique. De Niro’s character is a middle aged guy and could be just used to using this technique since that’s what you had to do in older cars that had no synchro gearboxes.
Of course I drive a stick right now, and occasionally I do that to make sure I am in going into the right gear, or if the gear I am going into feels stuck, you pull back and try again. It's also a car he may have never driven before, so it could be strange to him, and driving in the other side that he he is use to as well
I’ll just add to what you said that in the not so olden days, double declutch was essential whilst using a heel and toe technique which would typically involve significant slowing down before a sharp corner and dropping few gears at the same time. Gearboxes could get damaged if engine speed and wheel speed became drastically mismatched. De Niro’s character would have most likely known that … unlike today’s Stunt Driver Reacts guest :-) ( sorry, had to take a dig )
Mieczysław, here’s my train of thought: movie happens in the nineties, De Niro plays a guy in his fourties, probably been honing his driving skills for over 20 years so somewhere in 70’s he would have started. Cars then? Bit crude I’d say. On a side note, I have Fiat 126p and double declutch every time I can… but then I’m almost middle aged too :-)
13:00 de niro's gear shift makes sense when you look at the trick he pulls with the car. shift down to 2. + hold clutch + pull hand brake + spin + let the clutch go and step on gas padle
There is a more unrealistic thing in this particular chase. If you watch it, there is a moment when BMW and Peugeot do a 90 degree turn at low speed, and when Peugeot is shown the film cuts to inside the car, and later on the two cars are shown doing the same speed. In reality BMW could throttle-turn that corner as shown, but Peugeot would have just stopped without traction because of front wheel drive and lack of limited slip in that model and if you look closely you can see it's about to lose speed completely when the camera cuts. Speaking of the gear shift, it's also possible this was intended to show he's synchronizing to put in 1st gear while still going, because he would need that to launch the car again after the spin. I did it myself in fwd when doing 180 on rally events. 2 to 1 downshift otherwise causes gearbox damage, because there is no synchro for such downshift. In RWD it's easier, once you lock the rear wheels with handbrake, you have split second after leaving the handbrake to move selector from 2nd to 1st, and it's just on the way as you're moving your hand back to the steering wheel.
The real issue is doing "Stuntdriver Reacts", and he's not even a stunt driver... That said, I don't know shit about cars, so I have no idea if he even knows what he's talking about. Lol.
After watching this video I really wanna see it now. Seems like it would constantly have me anxious from start to finish in a very immersive and realistic way.
Thank god i was searching for a comment like this. The chase scences are so gritty its awesome. The ONLY thing bad about them is the sound design. Minimal effort was put in there.
It's rude everywhere, just in the United States you let them by anyways and then curse angrily as you submit to the guy that's going to get the ticket that you might have gotten.
Stuntman and driver Bud Ekins was the main stunt driver in Bullitt, The French Connection, and The Seven Ups . He and Steve McQueen were friends and MX racing partners. The Bullitt car chase from what I remember took 2ish weeks to film. Both cars suspensions had parts from the manufacturers racing programs. The cars were also heavily inspected every night after filming due to the speeds and abuse they saw. The French Connection was filmed on a shoestring budget and the director went for a very documentary/Guerilla style of shooting. Many of the extras were cops and the chase scene had no permits. The way they got the in car footage was that the director or DP was in the back seat of the car and gave Ekins the direction of essentially drive as fast as you can. In interviews the director stated that they were going 90+ for most of the sequence. The white car that got nailed was not part of the film and the production company paid the owner of it off as well as repaired the car. The Seven Ups I don't know as much about but the chase scene is epic as well. One movie to look at as well for car chase work is Driver. It's another mid 70's crime movie that has ALOT of good stunt work.
We need Jason Bourne 1. Mission Impossible 5 and 6. Or better a whole chapter for just Mission Impossible saga. Baby driver. Bond. And wished more Ronin. And also a Helicopter Pilot react to Helicopter chasing scenes xD
agreed. especially with baby driver. cant go wrong with any jason bourne or 007. a scene thats more recent is the car stunt in *6 underground* when theyre in Italy
I like ThatDudeInBlue as a UA-cam guy, but he's not actually the most knowledgable when it comes to stunt driving. If you got an actual stunt driver you'd get a totally different insight that's missing here. It's like if you got a youtube martial arts guy to do other "stuntmen react." sure they have a working knowledge of the basics but they don't know what goes into the intricacies of production.
But they don't mention that the Mustangs thru 1969 have the top of thhe gas tank as the trunk floor. and 1970 thru 1973 had it in the same position as the Pinto. Many cars had a gas tank behind the rear axle.
What I like is the escalation. It's not constant action. Things get bad really fast. Even if nothing has happened yet, death can be right around the corner.
I'm from Germany and its true that people do flash at slow cars in front . But its absolutly considered to be a dick move. Its actually illegal because its "Nötigung" (eng. Coercion). But many People in expensive Mercedes or Audis will do this all the time... Its basically a meme in Germany.
it's illegal if you're close to the car in front of you. but the way he told it, it's legal. but normally no one moves aside because of flasing lights :D
In this case though isn't it pitting dick move against dick move, ie. one should not be hanging out in the left lane to need to be flashed in the first place?
People do this in Poland too. They can just wait until I'm done passing. So many people want to go unsafe speeds and go above the speed limit to save a minute.
@@RobertMorgan But most people are not hanging out in the left lane. They are just passing and will move over to the middle lane. These drivers are most of the time just impatient. So let's say there are three lanes. The right lane is most of the time packed with trucks which are only driving 100 km/h. In the middle people drive around 130/140. And then you want to drive 160 and are going on the left lane to pass. Then a driver comes from behind driving over 200 km/h flashing you. But you have to find a gap before you can safely pass to the middle lane.
He did go to school for cinematography things... Not 100% what for specifically... But has a bit of experience in this kinda thing... But he also has quite a bit of his facts mixed up a bit anyway
Don't get me wrong i like TDIB he does do some good videos, just this title is very misleading. Guys like Paul Swift (Drive) and Mark Higgins (No Time To Die) are proper stunt drivers.
Not to take anything away from ThatDudeinBlue. I love his channel and his car reviews, but just don't think he was the right person for the video. There SO MANY things in this video that he got incorrect or just plain wrong. - 'Danger to manifold' he could have specified that it's a joke cause no way in hell is someone going to have a warning that their intake or exhaust manifold is in danger. - Streetcars having drag radials? Really?! No one in their mind is going to running huge fat tires in the street. Plus not to even mention how long that 1/4 mile race? You could mile races that are shorter than that scene. - The charger breaking a smoking wheelie is impossible. You have to break traction to get tire smoke. You have to have a lot of traction to do a wheelie. Can't do both. - NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT THE FLIP. The one proper stunt in the film. Bruh. - Even no mention how in the first F&F, that most of the sounds were fake. A v8 sounding rotary? A turbo sounding eclipse with no turbo? While I will admit he may have not of known that, but still. - Flashing your lights is a dick move (debatably). I agree that the flashing of lights is a warning to get out of the way. But on a highway, in the fast lane. Flashing your lights is basically like yelling GTFO!. Most people do move because they don't want to cause a scene, rather than out of courtesy. It is a debatable topic however, it's definitely not a common action. - Wiggling on the downshift is weird? In the scene, it looks like he has to go into free gear than into 2nd. In normal H pattern transmissions, you can't easily switch into a lower gear if you clutch in, it does take a bit of effort. Even then he could of double-clutched. Clutch in to get into neutral, then clutch out when in neutral. Then clutch in to get into 2nd. I see no problem with that. There other things that people have noted in the comment below. But to me, those are the main ones. Once again this isn't a jab at ThatDudeinBlue. He's a car review channel that doesn't know much about car stunts. Just more on car descriptions and facts. He's a car guy, not a stunt guy. Hear lies my rant. Thank you
I agree with everything but the drag slicks. I know plenty of people who run them on the street. Drag radials are made to run on the street. They’re not a traditional drag slick, they’re two different styles. They have a minimal tread pattern while still being a softer compound. Dodge Demons come with them factory.
Drive was a fantastic movie and I'm a car nut. The pacing, the story, the acting was all top notch! Sure it has it's slow moments, but it's all progressing towards the bigger picture. If any of you haven't seen it I would highly suggest it!
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Lol I think it’s due to the fact that there are multiple different manifolds within a car and it’s completely unclear as to which manifold is in danger, and on top of that, the floorboard of the car then flys off which makes 0 sense…
Fun fact: Steve Mcqueen not only went to track to learn driving close. He WAS racedriver. He was so invested in driving that he spend almost all money he earned in Holywood on racing. He ran in endurance races as "gentlemen driver" and managed to get few wins. Propably the biggest was 1st place at 12hours of Sebring.
@blueboywhitie he did win the race.....the ginos over at Ferrari paid off the race officials.... It was their first win in endurance racing in a long time.... Steve knew but he didn't want to make a scene and let it go...
12:56 - "the little wiggle's kinda weird" Erm, no. Depending on the gearbox, if the gate for second is narrow, then you can't simply make a diagonal from third to second. You have to go back, left, back, and it's not easy to do it quickly. Next time you see a manual Ferrari, take a look at the gear lever and its position in the console.
Technically he isn’t a stunt man, he’s a car enthusiast with skills. But he doesn’t get hired to do stunts in cars he does some stunts with his own car but not in film
Does that mean someone who plays and instrument but doesn't get hired for it isn't a musician? I'd say if he does stunts, he is a stunt driver, hired or not.
I just don't get how the vault scene would even be possible. It is well done no doubt. But for me it stretches believability so out that I cannot even beleive it to work,
@@Leprutz It's superhero physics. Absolute nonsense in the real world, but make it fun on film. Best part of that scene is the safe being driven by a stunt guy, with a tiny viewing window, having to match the pulling cars' slides, to maintain the impression of momentum from the safe being dragged along.
@@durrell246 Yes this is truly insane how they did it. And that stunt guy was literally risking his life every fucking moment of it. But still like... that seen kinda took me totally out of the movie and therefor cannot even be taken seriously. I know suspension of disbelief... but in this sequence it just doesn't work.
@@Leprutz because he was wrong in his description of what they did for that scene, they actually have a second car under the vault that is driving along with the other cars
Why are they acting like The French Connection is some obscure, underground movie and not one of the most iconic and influential action films ever made?
Because they are pondering to the lowest common denominator, people who know shit about movies that watch these kind of videos. People who get easily amused by general facts most people know, but hosts they will act like they don't know, so the guest can explain it like he is some kind of a genius expert on the subject.
2:02 Fast And Furious race scene is the most iconic racing scene ever. Its a joke but its also hoghly respected. This movie put the whole culture on the map.
I don't he was a jealous dickhead. I think the narrator is super interesting and is obviously knowledgeable on what's going on. The title of the video is a bit if a misnomer given the experts line of work, and I agree that having a stuntdriver in the industry would also be interesting.
Flashing the lights on its own isnt that shitty of a move. The thing is that ppl how flash their lights tend to catch up way too close aswell, which is the real shit move. Then again, not realizing that there is someone coming in faster behind, is a shit move on its own...
I'd like to correct you guys about the german autobahn: if you flash your light's because the car in front of you is slower, it is absolutely considered to be a dick move (and i think it's a felony - not sure though)
Depending on if the Autobahn is actually empty or at least the right lane... a lot of people drive with 130 on the left lane while the right or middle one is empty😉
in Brazil people use the left-turn signal to ask for passage if someone is in the left-most lane and driving slower. Flashing lights is not considered being a dick at all, it's just a practicallity. It would be a dick move to make someone drive slower than you if you're not at the speed limit.
@Gabriel D'Amours not any supra, he says “that supra” as in the one from the movie, and guess what. The real hero car did make about 550rwhp depending on the dyno.
@Gabriel D'Amours Look at the youtube channel ua-cam.com/users/craiglieberman -> He was the actual owner of the Supra that was used as the hero car. His channel is dedicated to Fast and Furious stuff, he was actually part of a few movies. (not on screen, but as an advisor)
@@codebus Thank you so very much Martin for pointing out the Craig Lieberman channel, I've followed since I read your comment and Craig's channel is FANTASTIC for these cars and F&F movies info, true gem! so thanks again!
Drive is an amazing movie. I actually didn't even know it existed but a youtuber talked about how much they love the movie and i just gave it a shot and I was pleasantly surprised.
I suggested Blues Brothers for this video, so many good chase scenes. My dad lived in Chicago when they were filming, and for the nighttime chase scenes the crew went around and gave everyone who lived along the chase route $20 to keep their house lights on all night. This was because the chase was filmed in the early morning, but was supposed to take place earlier in the evening. My Chicago family can't help but pick apart the chase scenes for geographical continuity too. All in the fun of the movie.
@@a.parker3049 My mom snuck out to see the filming at the gas station where one of the brothers is talking to the girl in the sports car. The next day they drove by and the gas station was gone.
In the French Connection they used the sound from the Bullet Mustang for the Pontiac Ventura. You can hear the sound of him "shifting" his automatic. Also the scene where the door on the car is ripped off it wasn't planned, it was a lady who opened her door at the wrong time and it was torn off. They had to pay her off.
@@pixiniarts they didn't call the movie boring he was commenting on how the people at the theater called the movie boring thinking they were going to watch a fast and furious movie
I cut my teeth on Bullit. To this day it's my favorite and most impressive. The other one that gets me is from "The Dead Pool" with the RC car chasing Clint Eastwood in a full sized car on the hills of San Francisco. FWIW, I had an used Pinto that we called the Bondo-Mobile. It had an A/C you could hang meet in the car with, fantastic Blau Punct sound and all I had to do was replace the transmission to have reverse. I sold it for a few hundred dollars and years later saw it still driving. There was no killing that car.
It's pretty much THE automotive dick move in Germany. You probably just offended more Germans by misquoting the rules there than you would have by just saying something offensive intentionally :D
Yeah I guess that was a stuntdrivers wishfull thinking... we love cars and we love driving fast, but we don't love some BMW sniffing our exhaust while going 200 km/h
I love these, all of them, VFX, Stuntmen, all of them. These are my Saturday morning cartoons. I just wish they were longer. If you've produced anything that deserves a budget and to be included by traditional media, this is it. I think I'm compelled to get a Crew membership just to plead that you upload the entire unedited discussions.
It's weird because he actually does know but this video was just so bad. Not the right guy for this series, respects to him for his career but he ain't the right guy.
I love the car chase scenes in "Ronin". So good. My favorite moment is when Jean Reno, sitting next to De Niro, realizes what's up and he says "Ehh, merde!!! (oh shit)" before buckling up lol.
I agree. Not sure why they would get a youtuber and not a real stunt driver. Dude didnt even know the charger in the first fast n furious was lifted in the race with the supra.
@@215Fenix I almost went with Bullit, but the scope of The Blues Brothers clinched it for me....also give an honorable mention to Smokey and the Bandit.
Couple of things these guys missed...With Dom's Dodge its impossible for a car to do a Burnout AND a wheelie at the same time. Then the scene pulling the safe, the cars would've never moved, even if they had infinate power and an unbreakable transmission they would'nt have had enough traction to move the safe 1 inch. Enjoyable to watch though
Yeah i had a few problems with his faf opinions to lol im pretty sure no one was getting 1000hp out of 4 cylinders and it was more about the acceleration and turning, the only common 90s import engine taking 1000hp is the supra but even that is more of a modern thing for internet views, no one would ever put 1000hp in a car for street racing
@@GusBDamme check out some modern drag racing builds. Many import guys are running insane boost and getting hp numbers well over 1000 nowadays. Modern materials and tech make a huge difference. At the time the first FnF movie was made though? Yeah 1000hp was insane
I'd love to see Ken Block or Tanner Foust do this with you guys. They're both professional rally and stunt drivers. Ken is also on UA-cam, and the owner of [HOONIGAN], and Tanner has done a ton of stunt driving in blockbuster films.
The reason De Niro was so stressed, not even acting, genuinely scared, his car is being driven from the rear seat by a professional. He's just trying to match his movements, whilst keeping his underwear empty.
Nice XD it gave a great effect, the actor at least looks like what the character is living, it sells the scene quite well.
Not rear seat, it was a right hand side drive car where they added a fake steering wheel to the passenger side. Same with the M5.
The thing I actually really love as well IS the mushy gear shift they were ragging on. It honestly gives the chase that little bit of extra stress, because they're not driving sharp modern sports cars, they're driving a mid '80s Beamer and Peugeot. It's just that little thing of 'of course the gears might be a bit hard to find, it's a stressful situation and you're driving normal family cars, not Supras and Skylines'.
Lol 👍
You guys should talk about movie scenes that were shot by talented cameramen, like scenes where cameramen had to do crazy stunts to get the shot. I remember seeing a video of a cameraman using roller blades going like 20 mph to get a good motorcycle shot.
Yes or the one with Jason Bourne where the dude jumped behind him through the window
Yes good idea
this with REC 1
Yeah a "Cameramen/Camerawomen react" series would be I would imagine extremely interesting
The Raid 2 had one like this during the car chase
Not to invite myself, but I would love to come on for an episode and tear apart a few mechanical inaccuracies in big films!
eating sugar no papa ok but no one asked
Yea i would genuinely watch that vid
Yos plz
We need him on the show!
Ya dude
Fun fact: I owned an original Mini that needed much weld (because Mini). I asked the local dudes for a recommendation, they suggested a guy. “Is he good with Minis?” “Have you seen The Italian Job?” My Mini was welded by the guy who worked with Equipe Remy Julienne on the set of the original and never to be equalled The Italian Job. Hell yeah.
Hang on lads, I got a great idea.
@@justvin7214
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the mini,s built for the italian job were built in scotland by fyffe fergusons eagle rally in Johnstone Renfrewshire in Scotland where i served my time before they closed early 90s when fyffe died they built and tuned lots of film and tv cars as well as tuned and built race and rally cars for many famous ppl last tv cars were for tv drama tutti frutti for bbc scotland also some of the team went to italy incase a car needed work during italian job but if you like mini,s we built a spaceframed mini clubman with a v8 mid mounted that belonged to Peter Woodrow of Bridge of Weir id love too know where that went as that car was so fast it scared the crap out me as an apprentice lol Italian job is and always will be one of best car movies just like smokey and the bandit etc when ppl did real stunts in modified cars not use green screen c,g,i like the fast and stupid franchise or the crap remake of gone in 60secs where a heavy old mustang gt jumps over numerous cars in what looks like a half mile jump then lands and drives away lmao car wouldve buckled and bent like a banana and car would have been wrote off at least original elenor had the battle scars for real in original gone in 60 secs cage versions rubbish like when stealing cars as if its that easy to break into and disable alarms trackers immobilisers it may have been easy till early 90s to steal most cars now some are near impossible thats why most car thefts now result in a house being broken into for the keys in my day you used a slim jim steel ruler down doorskin popped the door open jumped in either jiggled ignition or snapped barrel off then start with screwdriver but those days are well over its a shame dont get same class as italian job in this day and age and the remake was bullshit tbh wish films stopped using greenscreen and did proper stunts in real cars but doubt we will ever see again
I had the best time doing this with the crew. Thanks so much for the hospitality!
Also: for those asking about the intake manifold and myself questioning the meaning of "manifold.": it's about the context of the movie. A manifold issue wouldn't make your floorboard fall out.
Edit:Also don't flash your lights in Germany! People do it but it's a big no no. Was being sarcastic.
Flashing your lights on the left line IS CONSIDERED AS A DICKMOVE. I don't know if il was ironie or not....
Please watch out what you say, or the Americans will do it in Germany and will get a high "harassment fine" from the police !!!!!!
@@farlander100 I should have came off more sarcastic. Last time I was in Germany I was headlight flashed CONSTANTLY. I know it's a big no no.
@@ThatDudeinBlue yeah no, it's okay. It needed just that little bit more of sarcasm 👌
And if you are driving fast enough with a big Bmw or Audi, people will make space automatically for you ;)
Love seeing you with corridor David! I’ve been following you for a long time and love how far you’ve come!! Keep up with the great content!!!
@@jjkeywest I appreciate that dude!
If you guys have access to a stunt driving expert, you've gotta talk about Mad Max. The original, Road Warrior, and Fury Road (especially Fury Road, that whole movie is the best car chase ever).
The whole movie is a car chase
THEY SHOULD DO GYMKATTA
I love how Dom’s charger does a burnout AND a wheelie at the same time. It’s great watching the behind the scenes where the car consultant was trying to explain that you could only do 1 or the other, not both but the directors ignored him.
Gibbos Garage but Dom’s Charger
@The Beast the tyres will always experience some slip and spin because the coefficient of friction is never equal to 1 but with VHT and hot sticky drag radials you can get a very very high coefficient of friction. You can’t smoke the tyres and do a wheel stand at the same time. You can either wheel stand, or you can smoke the tyres. You can’t have your cake and eat it too, the physics doesn’t work like that. The grip of the tyres on the ground provides the fulcrum, the torque through the axles trying to rotate the wheels against the stationary tyres grip provides the moment of inertia. With enough grip and enough torque, you can lift a front end before the inertia of the car from stationary is overcome and allows forward movement. An object at rest wants to stay at rest so if you can provide enough instantaneous torque around a stationary point of rotation, you can lift the front end. But if you lose sufficient traction, you won’t lift the front end, you’ll just spin up the tyres.
It all depends on which force is greater, the grip of the tires or the force of gravity acting on the front end of the car. In most cases the force of gravity is stronger than the turning moment at the axels but in seriously high powered cars, sometimes it’s the other way around on takeoff.
@@gibbosgarage2613 You could do the wheelie first and then spin the tires after
I had the best time doing this with the crew. Thanks so much for the hospitality!
Also: for those asking about the intake manifold and myself questioning the meaning of "manifold.": it's about the context of the movie. A manifold issue wouldn't make your floorboard fall out.
Edit:Also don't flash your lights in Germany! People do it but it's a big no no. Was being sarcastic.
Yeah I thought that was such a cool scene when I was a kid... then I learned how cars and traction actually work... the amount of torque you would have to kick out to lift the car and do a burnout... ...if you had that much power i'm pretty sure you would break the rear bumper clear off before you actually got the burnout going... beautiful scene really... but not a great representation of how that much power would get put to the ground... also I am pretty sure the supra in this scene was supposed to have much more horsepower than 550, i don't remember though... it would definitely weigh a lot less... but still had crap tires...
The opening chase for Drive is so underrated! Instead of using over the top set pieces, it uses realism and suspense to make it more engaging than most movie chases.
I don't know about gta but I thought it was great that hiding in the car was a mechanic in watch dogs
Flashing your lights on the Autobahn can easily be interpreted as tailgating, which can be punished with up to 3 years jail. If you do it to get the person in front of you to move out of the way, it is by definition tailgating. But even if it weren't illegal, it very much is the biggest dick move you can do, short of crashing into another car on purpose or insurance fraud perhaps.
i was looking for this comment and as a german i agree that it is a HUGE dick move
An american citizen wouldn't get jail time in Germany over violating some traffic rules he would only be fined if caught. It is still a dick move though and only meant for actual emergency situations not to have fun on the autobahn on other people's expense.
It’s most definitely considered a dick move. By the person in the front. By the Audi in the back: not so much. ;)
@@megapro125 Of course punishment is on a spectrum, but I doubt a foreign national would be treated more kindly, especially if typical traffic violation punishments like removal of driving permits or point systems aren't applicable, if Germanys justice system has no influence on that once they leave for home again. In that case the sentence may even be stricter with fines and eventually jail time.
Yeah I don't know about Germany but in Austria ppl will often drive up close and 'blink' indicate so you move. It's not a nice thing to do tho.
Just something about Paris and car chases. The Mission: Impossible - Fallout one was so cool to watch in cinemas, no score, no dialogue, just car/motorbike sounds. Whole audience was dead silent throughout, good thrilling stuff
"Are they V-4s, then?"
"They're typically in-line 4s."
VERY classy, non-douche way of explaining cars to a non-car guy.
They said manifold is a fake word at the beginning and I was like what? It’s his exhaust manifold
@@gwraffe6812 They didn't say it's a fake word. Rewatch that scene. He basically said that he didn't know what the movie was referring to. And there's more than one manifold in a car. There's 2. The other is called an intake manifold. Besides, it doesn't excuse the fact that the freaking floor started to come apart. Like what?
Well typically a rear-exit exhaust set up runs around the transmission tunnel and is technically under the floor boards. If the exhaust was running hot enough and the floor boards weren't insulated well enough, it could have caused some problems. I'm not saying the bolts would shoot out but its not entirely implausible that an issue with the exhaust manifold could translate to floor boards.
Yes, good on him
@@ruessrolloff2114 I agree with you, but since nitrous forcefully induces in air, shouldn't the first affected place be the intake manifold rather than the exhaust manifold which comes after? Vin Diesel even says something like "You're lucky you didn't blow the welds on your intake with all that nitrous". He is referring to the intake manifold here, clearly, since the exhaust, like you said, is long gone. It is just a little puzzling and I wish they were a little more precise with the dialogue.
I'd love to hear from a stunt driver that's worked on films to hear about behind the scenes stuff.
So would I.
Definitely.
Yeah my top 3 picks for guests are Tanner Foust, Rhys Millen, and Jack Gill. All have worked on a ton of things that if you’re a fan of movies with car chases or racing you have definitely seen them in action. Jack Gill did a lot of the jumps for Knight Rider in the 80s, and has a metal plate in his neck because of the compressive force from landing. He’s still working on the newest fast and furious movies. Tanner Foust and Rhys Millen did the Mustang 350z showdown in Tokyo drift, and I heard Han’s FD3S was the slowest during the city chase, which caused problems for the drivers behind it. Rhys Millen I think was responsible for the dukes of hazzard roundabout drift too.
The car chase in Ronin is so dope because its the only car chase in film that, in my opinion, accurately reflects how stressed and anxious you'd be driving on the wrong side of the road. Plus, it's the only car chase ever where they actually flash fullbeams to warn oncoming drivers. Nice little detail
Ronin is my all time favorite movie. The car chase still holds up to me. It shows real cars being controlled by just adrenaline and hope. Not super cars being driven by experts. Don't get me wrong I love F&F and Tokyo Drift is my jam. But Ronin has that actual feeling of something could go wrong at any moment. It also ended super messy which makes it feel far more real.
And let's not forget that there are two chases in that film. I honestly can't decide which one is more intense.
Bourne Identity series and Burn Notice series had some fun vehicle stuff as well, IMHO, but Ronin wasn’t knocked of the podium.
@@CanadianWolverine True, very true.
I was surprised they didn't talk about Baby Driver, was an interesting movie and would love to hear their opinions it.
I'm surprised this isn't top comment so there ya go.
Yeah, that is kind of a snub.
go to GQ's channel, i think someone reviewed it
edit : F1 driver Daniel Ricciardo for GQ and another pro diver for WIRED
They actually already talked about it in one of their stuntmen reacts videos a while ago.
they've reacted to that already ! in their last stunt driving video, HOLLYWOOD STUNTS NUMBER 5
The wiggle when downshifting is completely accurate when driving a Peugeot. It's like stirring soup!!
*Every French car.
I think the guy was just double clutching
le savoir faire français
Ronin was such a good movie overall. Not just amazing car chases, but an excellent script and acting.
If you're doing car stuff now: C'était un rendez vous (1976). There has never been, and never will be, anything like it. It's a short filmed in Paris during the early morning. The story and history behind it is crazy. Such a rush to watch. No closed off streets.
Is that the POV video where his mates held back traffic while he drives through Paris?
Getaway in Stockholm is pretty close to this.
@@yippykiyay89 Yes, but no mates. He only had one guy keeping an eye on things where he went through the arches.
you forgot to mention he did it in a dino ferarri in the early morning.
@@admiralbutterscotch5147 Nope. He strapped a camera to the front bumper of his Mercedes Benz sedan low to the ground. He later recorded the audio from a Ferarri and dubbed it in. Still love it though.
The "little wiggle" on the gear change is something you'll see older drivers do, because pre-2000s manual transmission cars had a thing called synchromesh that helped the flywheel (I think?) stay at the correct speed for the wheels on the road. Going straight from one gear to another could damage the gearbox, so old bastards like me (I learned to drive in 1992) had it drilled into us to pause at neutral, and to even give the stick a little wiggle to make sure the car was definitely out of gear before proceeding to the next gear. It just shows that De Niro (or his stunt driver) listened to his driving instructor.
MCDexX But this guy said he’s a big history buff? Ronin was filmed in 97, he might not have been born yet haha
I learnt to drive in the early 2000s, my dad taught me - he was a police persuit driver, and he told me the same thing about checking you were out of gear before selecting the new one
the car he was driving looks like a mid 90's car too (I don't think it was new for the year the movie was made, but not too much older, maybe a 91-95, I am not super knowledgeable about BMWs)
Double clutching as well for older cars with bad synchros.
Had to pause and comment cause I'm getting annoyed now but I saw your comment sos here's a thumbs up. I want to dislike the video now but I won't cause it's cc's video not his.
I wanna see and hear of them talking about the movie "Baby Driver"
They did
KT X when?
I heard them say baby in the intro
@@deadshotc3424 I didn't see or hear talking it on this video they only talk about "fast and furious" and the "hipster fake fast and the furious"
@@xxDxxism I believe one of the older stuntment react videos they talked about the alley scene and more
On that Germany fun fact: the flashing lights can be used, but depending on the situation it can definitely be a dock move. If there is no speed limit it’s fine as long as there is space, but if there is a speed limit (yes those exist here) and you are already going faster than that limit and you are still being flashed it’s definitely a dock move. Especially if the drivers then end up just creeping in until you move
Drive was such an amazing movie that was terribly marketed.
What bothers me is that anyone went to Drive and came away angry that they didn't see a fast and the furious movie. I don't want to be friends with the person that thinks any fast and furious movie is better than Drive.
Absolutely agree. That movie is a wonderful masterpiece.
Agree, glad they touched one the getaway scene. So damn realistic.
it’s rocking a very good 7,8 on imdb with more than 500.000 votes, made around 75 mio dollars with 15 mio budget at the box office and surely was sold a lot on dvd and streaming. that movie is a success in every way.
Remember there was some lady who tried to sue the filmmakers because it wasn't the F&F-type movie she was expecting
It’s shame that “Baby driver” wasn’t on the list
That movie deserves a whole episode.
They already done Baby Driver
They did baby driver with Eric
@@thefoxhound didn't they already do fast and furious too though?
@@OfficialSolDios they showed they bank scene before with Eric as well I'm not sure of any other scenes past that
German here with some info about flashing lights on the Autobahn: the Lichthupe (lighthonk) is generally considered to be a dick move, and it's usually done by people driving Audis, Mercedes' or BMWs while they are like 20 cm behind your car and you have no way of switching lanes because you are overtaking a row of trucks.
Even here in America, if someone's behind you and flashes their lights (or hi-beams) at you, it is also generally considered a dick move and generally also from the same type of "dicky brand" cars (like Audis, Mercedes, BMWs especially, etc) who are often known to be impatient/overly-aggressive drivers. I also notice a lot of young VW drivers around here who act the same way, usually an 18-20something who has a cheap, slower VW who still thinks they have some amazing racecar driving like an idiot speeding way too fast all the time.
+1
Yep can confirm. Wenn ich den Tempomat schon auf 160 km/h habe dann häng mir mit deiner Lichthupe nicht im Kofferraum.
(mildly upset German.)
Not to mention it could be a crime called "Nötigung" (coercion) and can land you a really hefty fine and make get your license taken away for good.
@@lukasgiese2331 thank you i was looking for this
Re: 1972 "exploding" Pintos. The fuel cell was directly behind the drivers side bumper mount. A few things had to happen. 1: the bumper had to be hit hard enough for the mount to pierce the fuel cell, 2: the left hand turn signal wiring had to be sheared, and 3: power had to be going through the wiring at the same time as a fuel vapor cloud was present.
The issue was corrected in the late-year 72 car by rerouting the wiring harness to just under the liftback, but by then bad press had stuck.
Re: Robert DeNiro hunting for the gear on downshift.
on the 1996-1998 Honda accords with the 4 cylinder the shifter was notoriously floppy. All it really took was a soggy torque strut on the front of the engine (Often called a dog-bone motor mount) to make 2nd gear and 4th gear almost lock you out. Reverse wasn't as much an issue as the engine would normally not have any loading on it. The hunting he is doing looking for second I have had to do myself many many times as mentally you know where the gear is, but when you go to grab it the transmission is like "Nope... No again... That's still not it... Oops, that was 4th..."
I want to see a “hacker” react to bad hacking or locksmithing.
This, please
problem is its kinda been done already. they dont need to top that ofc but should prolly react to diff movies i guess.
im talking about the 20 mins WIRED 11 mil views hacker react ua-cam.com/video/SZQz9tkEHIg/v-deo.html
Isnt that basically the entirety of the movie Hackers 1995?
please get the notorious hacker known as '4chan' to react to videos
I'd love to see Shannon Morse, LiveOverflow or Glytch on here, they're awesome
German guy here: Flashing your lights at someone in front of you on the left lane on the Autobahn is absolutely a dick move. Okay... if there is room on the right lane and the guy in front of you stays on the left without reason, it's a matter of opinion whether it's justified or not, but flashing your lights at the guy in front of you is basically like yelling "GTFO!".
And illegal now!
Yup, can confirm. Dick move and illegal. Fortunately.
Well if you go 80km/h on the left line you’re an idiot
@@17cuzzo The guys flashing are not overtaking people who are going 80. They are overtaking people who are going 150, while they themselves think they are on a racetrack.
@@HootMoot It's not illegal and it's not a dick move. Flashing your lights is explicitly allowed and even recommended to signal a hefty speed difference between you and the driver who is likely just coasting on the left lane out of convenience.
Even using your horns is legitimate, although fairly useless considering the range compared to your lights. Stipulations: You have to make sure not to blind other participants and, of course, you have to keep your distance and anticipate other vehicles not complying.
People being annoyed by Lichthupe alone (that is, on the Autobahn) are missing a huge part of their driver's ed lessons and should take a refresher, because signalling your intent to overtake is completely intended as far as traffic code is concerned. People are being dicks for all kinds of reasons, this isn't one of them.
I can't believe you guys didn't point out one of the coolest aspects of Ronin: the actors are ACTUALLY THERE, in the cars, with the drivers. The drivers are wearing black suits and are sitting behind the actors, controlling the cars with specialized steering wheels from the back seats. That's why Ronin is the only movie I know where the actors look legimitately scared and stressed in those scenes.
True story! He has so much knowledge about the dragging of the vault scene, random information regarding 'loose permits' and the van they struck on the corner was a member of the public etc... Then didn't cover Ronin's ground breaking techniques when it came to the logistics of filming a great car chase. tsk tsk
Old dude here, Pintos were excellent vehicles that car racing enthusiasts like you would probably enjoy. The pinto design flaw, the gas tank had a piece metal in front of it that would be struck by the tank when driven into it in a severe wreck, puncturing the tank and igniting it at the same time. It was corrected with a recall that basically put a piece of material between the two that would prevent igniting the tank. I knew the pintos well. Straight factory you could tach out the engine, dump the clutch and it would frigging GO!. You could smoke first and second gear and leave a little rubber on the road hitting 3rd gear. Been there and done that! It was an awesome little 2300 engine and a fast little car. There was no small factory stock car by any manufacturers of the day that would touch it in a drag race. Yes it was the brunt of a lot of jokes and of course with such a tragic design flaw causing some well publicized horrific deaths. I know you guys are young and might not know about the car outside of its early flaw. The pinto was a very good automobile with a bullet proof powerful 4 banger. Too bad Ford made such a tragic mistake in that original design.
Agreed. I met a few pony stock racers who lived the Pinto/Bobcat platform. And that engine was also used in Mustangs, Capris, Thunderbirds, Rangers, and a buttload of other Fords for decades.
Thank you for saying that-the Pinto had it's flaws but was much better than the Vega and Gremlim's of that time.These young ignorant assholes don't know anything about old cars!
The opening scene from Drive is one of the most intense car chases I have ever seen in my life. An absolute masterclass. I wish they'd talked more about it
the whole movie was great, but it was not about the car chases. That being said, I loved the car work that was done in the movie. Absolute pro.
i wish the movie got more recognition. its such a good movie
that 12 minutes opening scene puts the whole ridiculous Fast and Furious franchise to shame
@@v-trigger6137 fr bruh
@@casuallychallenged very true, and I absolutely loved it for what it is. Apparently the marketing gave the completely wrong impression for a lot of people, though
Bad stunt? There's a scene in Firestarter where this little girl jumps off a bridge into her dad's arms and its so obviously a 6 foot MAN and they end up just rolling down the bank together and it's so hilarious and then it cuts back to her being a little kid it's amazing
@acktually aintaddingup he's saying its a bad stunt. But hilarious.
Nathan Ellerton agreed but at least it’s not manos hands of fate 💀
I was curious how they were going to explain that David isn't a stunt driver. They should use their connection to David to get an actual stunt driver on the show.
I would have preferred if you could have gotten the driving coordinators from these movies and not just some guy from UA-cam. Craig Lieberman has a lot of videos for anyone curious on fast and furious stuff. He explains a lot of the errors and why they happened. Also, the vehicles aren’t purely drag vehicles so they wouldn’t be running slicks and would still do fine in a race. Also if you count up shifts and downshifts in fast and furious the shifting isn’t really too much. They just show multiple cars.
sorry just now seeing this but I'm a mechanic and yeah... I would have been better to have on this show than this dude. No offense to him but having an actual stunt driver or even a race car driver would have been way better.
German here: Yes flashing your lights in the fast lane is a dick move. The reason people move over is because they don't want to die, because they are going 130km/h and the car flashing lights is going 250km/h. Imagine being rear ended by someone doing 120km/h faster than you. Chills.
I think it's universally agreed that flashing your lights in any normal driving situation is a dick move. The ONLY people who flash their lights are always those who are going at unbelievable speeds and their flashing their lights generally to say "GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY WAY OR IMMA SMASH INTO YOU"
Not only a dick move but in certain situation a criminal offense
it is also illegal. it is only allowed in emergency situations or to warn another driver about anger ahead (eg speed trap ^^). Same here in Austria - it is bullying.
Not sure about Germany, but here the legal way would be to set your left turn signal and hope the person sees it and moves over. - People use the Headlights for Drivers to be recognized.
It is also illegal to be in the left lane, if the right one is free. In Austria this can cost you up to €250 (if only it would be more enforced)
flashing your lights is considered coersion, they take your licence, one to three months.
Markus Allgaier Californian here. I started driving in Germany in the late 1980’s and the technique I saw back then was the approaching driver turned on his left turn signal to “request” the slower driver move over. I interpreted that as “If there was a lane to my left I would use it to pass you but there isn’t so please move to the right lane.” I haven’t driven in Germany for a few years now so I don’t know if that is still what happens.
I'm stoked for you guys to see the chase scene we filmed for, "Free Guy"! Hopefully it comes out this December
December? Was looking farwared to that one .
@@geyck I was sad to learn the new release date myself. I keep watching the trailer, which has a clip of the chase in it
@@DevMug yeah! I was the Key PA for the stunt unit.
Did you film it in Boston? I was near the set in Downtown with the green lamborghini and talked to the security for the set, cool lady lmao
@@Spyder1 we did film it in Boston. The set you came across was the main unit
Drive has so much good driving in it, it's ridiculous.
Also, for the next episode, you should totally react to the opening scene of the Baby Driver!
Mmm yes, Baby Driver!
Drive is literally one of my favorite movies its so tucking good
They've done a Baby Driver scene in an early episode of stuntment react, but it wasn't with a stunt driver
Yes, Baby Driver, then 6 Underground. Skyfall and Spectre. Blues Brothers through the Mall. The Rock with Sean Connery in a Hummer doing the Bullitt Route. Against all Odds with a Ferrari v Porsche - Stunt coordinator Gary Davis drove the 911, but it was then-70-year-old Cary Loftin who was recruited to drive the Ferrari. Loftin, who designed car stunts for films including Bullitt, The Love Bug, Duel, Vanishing Point and dozens of others, is simply the greatest movie stunt driver of all time. Would be interesting to have these guys comment on these ...
@@douglasfilter8211 The 6 underground car chase was so bad that I don't even want to see them make fun of it. It would hurt me inside to watch again.
The manifold they are refering to is the intake manifold (where air flows into the engine, and also where nitrous is injected) if you boost too much air the intake manifold can break. So some would argue it’s realistic
I have watched this movie way too many time and i never once thought of the sentence to be read like that. I always understood it as. Danger. ‘manifold’ incoming. Not the is danger to the manifold/manifolds
Also the manifold on a Japanese car is the first part of the exhaust attached to the engine. Sometimes called the collectors or headers in the US, it's the four-branch of pipes that get so incredibly hot (500deg c) that they can glow red when the engines under duress. Brian's car may well have gotten a lot hotter with nitrous being used so it's entirely legit. The floor plate is just trash though
@@jetsonik but nitrous cools the engine, just like petrol does? Thats why i figured it’d be the intake as the NOS valves are positioned in the intake manifold.
@jetsonik in the US, we call them exhaust manifolds, or headers. Depending on the car, really. I don't know why, but no one I know ever calls them headers if it's below an 8cyl. Strange that you made me think about that. Why do we say headers for old v8s and manifolds for newer or smaller engines?
Ok guys, let me add some clarity. ALL combustion engines (well, almost all) have BOTH an intake manifold and exhaust manifold. The intake manifold is the set of tubes and plenums that feeds air into your engine. The exhaust manifold (aka headers, exhaust headers) is the collection of tubes that feed spent gasses out of the engine and into the exhaust pipe. Nitrous does not cool an engine down. It actually makes it run hotter. It cools down the intake charge (the air inside the intake manifold about to go into the engine) because it is a compressed gas that is being decompressed. It is used in engines because it is an oxidizer. It carries lots of oxygen, which means you can add more fuel, which means more powah baby. This is the same concept as a turbocharger or supercharger. They add air to the engine via compression, which means more fuel can be burned, and more power can be made.
With nitrous, this can be risky business, because most nitrous kits do not just inject nitrous into the intake manifold, they also inject extra gasoline (because again, with the new oxygen from the nitrous, you can, and must, add more fuel). That means that now you have a combustible mixture of oxygen and fuel filling your intake manifold. If you’re at high RPM, the air flow is sufficient to keep all combustion in the chamber, as designed. However, if you start spraying nitrous at too low an RPM, you could blow up your intake manifold. This is because your intake and exhaust valves, the things that seal the combustion chamber, are moving more slowly at low RPM. This means the possibility of some overlap between the combustion event in the cylinder and the intake valve closing is higher. Also, the nitrous/fuel/air mixture backs up (so to speak) in the intake manifold, because air velocity through the engine is much lower, and any spark or flame that may come out of the cylinder through the still open intake valve(s) will ignite the fuel/nitrous mixture in the intake manifold. This can blow the intake manifold to bits, and it’s not uncommon.
All of that being said, the F&F scene is absolutely bogus. 1. The intake manifold has nothing to do with the passenger side floor board, nor is it close to it. 2. A nitrous backfire (the name given to nitrous exploding in the intake) is unpredictable and no computer could warn of such an event. 3. Even if the computer could warn that the conditions were favorable to a nitrous backfire (low RPM, high nitrous volume, large cam overlap), it would warn you fractions of a second beforehand. 4. The nitrous backfire happens, and it basically kills the engine. Once the intake is blown apart, it is no longer sealed, and any method of measuring air intake and fuel metering is gone. The car will die.
Drive is a masterpiece. The stunts are just accessory to the movie.
I agree with you.
I also agree. I don’t understand all the comments talking about how this movie is boring.
The lighting and music alone are enough for me. Now put in some car chases, tension, hot women and violence 🤤
It has an almost anime aesthetic
The best movie called Drive stars Mark Dacascos.
@@richardb6260 Haha, oh god, the acting in that movie.
Gotta do Mission Impossible Fallout, chase scene in Paris.
Tru
Would have to do a special episode just about Mission Impossible!!!
Or the chase in Rogue Nation
Exactly what I thought.
@@FramesPerSecond it is awesome, thrilling. But the one from FALLOUT is absolute madness. Considering some of the rigs didnt work and they had to go raw on it.
The wiggling the gear stick is common on a car with a heavily worn synchromesh, which is a common issue in BMW E34s. Also, the autobahn thing is rubbish.
He may have driven a lot of cars but this guy doesn’t seem to have the same level of expertise we’ve become accustomed to in these segments.
Wiggling the stick in neutral won't help any worn synchro action.
The wiggle on the gear shift in Ronin is necessary. Those old Peugeot gearboxes were very clunky and wouldn’t have downshifted so easily at speed so he probably had to double dip the clutch into neutral and then downshift.
Your thumbnail guy is so good!
Surprise surprise!!
Hey sonny It's cool to see you watch corridor! I'm a huge fan
Waiting for your next video sunny.
Sonny, it was surprise but a welcome one
The unsung artist
It is a "dick move" to flash other cars on the left lane in Germany, doesn't stop some from doing it though.
I'm pretty sure it's also illegal. For the same reason as tailgating.
@@Yora21 it is not illegal.
§5 StVO states that you can signal your intend to overtake someone with a short sound or lightsignal.
While it is legal to flash the lights it should only be done if strictly necessary (for example if someone is blocking the left lane for no reason whatsoever for an extended period of time).
Doop
@@khoernchen3490 The way they are using it is absolutely illegal. You can show your intent to overtake someone, but the way they are using it in the movie is to pressure the driver ahead (Fine of 5-10€). Also is can be seen as coercion, which is an offense under criminal law. In this case you can either get a fine or even go to jail for up to 3 years. And of course you loose your driving license.
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Nearly lost it when he said that.
"Isn't this a dick move?"
"No, no"
YES IT IS! IT IS AN ABSOLUTE DICK MOVE.
You shouldn't do it in any country!
The wiggle in the gearshift on the Peugeot in Ronin is legit, Peugeots have the weirdest manual gearshift ever its literally like a knife in a bowl of jelly, just stir it around and find a gear
I drove old Peugeots and this is 100% correct.
@@Danialdaneshmand I have an old peugeot and this is correct :D
Like a fork in a pot noodle...
It’s a double declutch. Look it up
Wow I'm so glad I haven't had a car with a transmission since 2013
I'd love to see a sequel to this with:
LeMans.
Driver.
Death Proof.
Thunder Road.
The Rockford Files.
The Blues Brothers.
Add in the chase from the comedy 1990 film 'Short Time'. Tends to always get left out of people's lists but once you see it, you know.
Blues Brothers would be fascinating!
The original Gone in Sixty seconds would be fun to see reaction to. On the DVD I have there is also a short feature with the Elenor Mach1 being thrashed around by a professional 30 yrs later with Haliki’s wife in the passenger seat.
Or redline
It's not like a GTA mission, it's literally the movie the GTA mission was based on
I was thinking more the first driver game that was on. Ps1
@@ross5914 no like the gta mission in gta4 was literally based on the movie. The stunt coordinator for the movie is the same guy that handles mission dynamics for Rockstar games.
@@ross5914 EXACTLY!
CJ
@@ross5914 I think it was Driver 2
This double pulling on the gear stick by De Niro’s character could be an attempt at a double declutch technique. De Niro’s character is a middle aged guy and could be just used to using this technique since that’s what you had to do in older cars that had no synchro gearboxes.
Of course I drive a stick right now, and occasionally I do that to make sure I am in going into the right gear, or if the gear I am going into feels stuck, you pull back and try again. It's also a car he may have never driven before, so it could be strange to him, and driving in the other side that he he is use to as well
I’ll just add to what you said that in the not so olden days, double declutch was essential whilst using a heel and toe technique which would typically involve significant slowing down before a sharp corner and dropping few gears at the same time. Gearboxes could get damaged if engine speed and wheel speed became drastically mismatched. De Niro’s character would have most likely known that
… unlike today’s Stunt Driver Reacts guest :-)
( sorry, had to take a dig )
I like how you imagine De Niro’s character middle age to be a factor here, while I have to do the same thing today.
Came to make sure this was noted
Mieczysław, here’s my train of thought: movie happens in the nineties, De Niro plays a guy in his fourties, probably been honing his driving skills for over 20 years so somewhere in 70’s he would have started. Cars then? Bit crude I’d say.
On a side note, I have Fiat 126p and double declutch every time I can… but then I’m almost middle aged too :-)
what happened to Baby Driver???
the car scenes are epic
They've already covered those scenes in previous episodes
@@MrHendrix17 There's a whole movie to see, too!
Well, the star of the movie is a sexual predator. It’s better if they don’t give it any attention
@@supercalime woukdnt really call Kevin Bacon the star...
13:00 de niro's gear shift makes sense when you look at the trick he pulls with the car. shift down to 2. + hold clutch + pull hand brake + spin + let the clutch go and step on gas padle
There is a more unrealistic thing in this particular chase. If you watch it, there is a moment when BMW and Peugeot do a 90 degree turn at low speed, and when Peugeot is shown the film cuts to inside the car, and later on the two cars are shown doing the same speed. In reality BMW could throttle-turn that corner as shown, but Peugeot would have just stopped without traction because of front wheel drive and lack of limited slip in that model and if you look closely you can see it's about to lose speed completely when the camera cuts.
Speaking of the gear shift, it's also possible this was intended to show he's synchronizing to put in 1st gear while still going, because he would need that to launch the car again after the spin. I did it myself in fwd when doing 180 on rally events. 2 to 1 downshift otherwise causes gearbox damage, because there is no synchro for such downshift.
In RWD it's easier, once you lock the rear wheels with handbrake, you have split second after leaving the handbrake to move selector from 2nd to 1st, and it's just on the way as you're moving your hand back to the steering wheel.
You guys did your first Stuntdriver reacts and _DIDNT_ talk about Baby Driver??? Wha?
I think they did it. They actually asked for suggestions for driver stunts and I suggested Transporter by Jason Statham. hope they inserted it too...
I'm pretty sure they already covered baby driver in a previous episode of stuntman react
Michael Jae I was thinking the same
The real issue is doing "Stuntdriver Reacts", and he's not even a stunt driver... That said, I don't know shit about cars, so I have no idea if he even knows what he's talking about. Lol.
Was going to type the same thing
GTA 4 actually had a mission called the “Bohan connection” which was inspired by the French connection.
And Driver 1 or 2 had The French Connection mission which is pretty much the same as in the movie.
There's a great car chase sequence in "Jack Reacher" that's not mind-blowing, but well crafted and doesn't rely on a score 😎
Exactly what I was thinking
Christopher McQuarrie (the director of Jack Reacher) went on to direct MI 5 and 6 which both have equally good scoreless chase sequences.
That one is pretty good
😊
My man
definitely need a reaction to the driving in baby driver. excellent chase scenes in that movie.
"Drive" is a really unique movie in a good way.
It's actually very good . I liked it
It’s so incredibly underrated
After watching this video I really wanna see it now. Seems like it would constantly have me anxious from start to finish in a very immersive and realistic way.
DSlammer SXL it will do that.
Agree to disagree, I consider Drive the worst movie I've ever seen
Drive is literally the most UNDERRATED car film EVER!!!
Thank god i was searching for a comment like this. The chase scences are so gritty its awesome. The ONLY thing bad about them is the sound design. Minimal effort was put in there.
Just by seeing few scenes here, it does look amazing!
you may or may not know this, but the Jake G version of this movie is a remake. The original is here free on UA-cam.
I really like that movie. 100% agree with you
amazing film.
Correction: Flashing your lights in Germany to ask people to clear the left lane is actually rude. Be patient and let them overtake first.
Not if the guy thats blinking has a BMW, they are bound by law to be an impatient dick.
It’s even illegal and you have to pay high fines if you get cought doing it
It is not just rude but illegal
I slow down like 5 kphs when someone flashes me and I slow down 8-10 ks if I get flashed and left blinkered
It's rude everywhere, just in the United States you let them by anyways and then curse angrily as you submit to the guy that's going to get the ticket that you might have gotten.
Stuntman and driver Bud Ekins was the main stunt driver in Bullitt, The French Connection, and The Seven Ups . He and Steve McQueen were friends and MX racing partners. The Bullitt car chase from what I remember took 2ish weeks to film. Both cars suspensions had parts from the manufacturers racing programs. The cars were also heavily inspected every night after filming due to the speeds and abuse they saw.
The French Connection was filmed on a shoestring budget and the director went for a very documentary/Guerilla style of shooting. Many of the extras were cops and the chase scene had no permits. The way they got the in car footage was that the director or DP was in the back seat of the car and gave Ekins the direction of essentially drive as fast as you can. In interviews the director stated that they were going 90+ for most of the sequence. The white car that got nailed was not part of the film and the production company paid the owner of it off as well as repaired the car.
The Seven Ups I don't know as much about but the chase scene is epic as well.
One movie to look at as well for car chase work is Driver. It's another mid 70's crime movie that has ALOT of good stunt work.
We need some of the James Bond chases in here.
yeah the Spectre chase scene in Rome was really awesome.
Yeah like the beginning of Quantum of Solace.
@@Catagoricallyno Was gonna say
I just rewatched GoldenEye and they just HAVE to talk about the tank chase. Also the gondola chase in Moonraker, it's so good.
There’s a mission in GTA four called the Puerto Rican connection well you have to chase a train around just like that
We need Jason Bourne 1.
Mission Impossible 5 and 6. Or better a whole chapter for just Mission Impossible saga.
Baby driver.
Bond.
And wished more Ronin.
And also a Helicopter Pilot react to Helicopter chasing scenes xD
transporter 1,2,3 too
@@sonicaditya indeed!!
agreed. especially with baby driver. cant go wrong with any jason bourne or 007. a scene thats more recent is the car stunt in *6 underground* when theyre in Italy
They could get BILL BURR to react to Helicopter scenes as an actual helicopter pilot, and he's hilarious
You got them all
I like ThatDudeInBlue as a UA-cam guy, but he's not actually the most knowledgable when it comes to stunt driving. If you got an actual stunt driver you'd get a totally different insight that's missing here. It's like if you got a youtube martial arts guy to do other "stuntmen react." sure they have a working knowledge of the basics but they don't know what goes into the intricacies of production.
yeah I was disappointed that it wasn't a stunt driver for the review.
Came here to say the same thing, couldn’t agree more. First time I’ve been disappointed by a guest on corridor
Maybe they should’ve done a “car guy reacts”
@@jitterbug8916 this i could get on board with
love the dude, but.... is he a stunt driver?
Love the fact that you included the Ping -explosion from Top Secret! when describing the Pinto
But they don't mention that the Mustangs thru 1969 have the top of thhe gas tank as the trunk floor. and 1970 thru 1973 had it in the same position as the Pinto. Many cars had a gas tank behind the rear axle.
Drive is my ultimate favorite movie because of how "slow" is, it give a nice feeling of realism that calm me down somehow
What I like is the escalation. It's not constant action. Things get bad really fast. Even if nothing has happened yet, death can be right around the corner.
I'm from Germany and its true that people do flash at slow cars in front . But its absolutly considered to be a dick move. Its actually illegal because its "Nötigung" (eng. Coercion). But many People in expensive Mercedes or Audis will do this all the time... Its basically a meme in Germany.
it's illegal if you're close to the car in front of you. but the way he told it, it's legal. but normally no one moves aside because of flasing lights :D
In this case though isn't it pitting dick move against dick move, ie. one should not be hanging out in the left lane to need to be flashed in the first place?
People do this in Poland too. They can just wait until I'm done passing. So many people want to go unsafe speeds and go above the speed limit to save a minute.
@@RobertMorgan But most people are not hanging out in the left lane. They are just passing and will move over to the middle lane. These drivers are most of the time just impatient. So let's say there are three lanes. The right lane is most of the time packed with trucks which are only driving 100 km/h. In the middle people drive around 130/140. And then you want to drive 160 and are going on the left lane to pass. Then a driver comes from behind driving over 200 km/h flashing you. But you have to find a gap before you can safely pass to the middle lane.
Allow me to fix the title
"Car enthusiast UA-camr reacts to Bad and Great Hollywood Driving"
Facts and theres some stuff that he didnt even explain very well
Exactly, how is a car youtuber a stuntman?
He did go to school for cinematography things... Not 100% what for specifically... But has a bit of experience in this kinda thing... But he also has quite a bit of his facts mixed up a bit anyway
Thanks, I was looking for that comment... tdib is far from a stun driver, farther from a racing driver... just a plain enthusiast youtuber
Don't get me wrong i like TDIB he does do some good videos, just this title is very misleading. Guys like Paul Swift (Drive) and Mark Higgins (No Time To Die) are proper stunt drivers.
Y’all are the first major UA-cam channel I’ve seen that brought up one of my favorite movies! The original Italian Job!
Not to take anything away from ThatDudeinBlue. I love his channel and his car reviews, but just don't think he was the right person for the video. There SO MANY things in this video that he got incorrect or just plain wrong.
- 'Danger to manifold' he could have specified that it's a joke cause no way in hell is someone going to have a warning that their intake or exhaust manifold is in danger.
- Streetcars having drag radials? Really?! No one in their mind is going to running huge fat tires in the street. Plus not to even mention how long that 1/4 mile race? You could mile races that are shorter than that scene.
- The charger breaking a smoking wheelie is impossible. You have to break traction to get tire smoke. You have to have a lot of traction to do a wheelie. Can't do both.
- NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT THE FLIP. The one proper stunt in the film. Bruh.
- Even no mention how in the first F&F, that most of the sounds were fake. A v8 sounding rotary? A turbo sounding eclipse with no turbo? While I will admit he may have not of known that, but still.
- Flashing your lights is a dick move (debatably). I agree that the flashing of lights is a warning to get out of the way. But on a highway, in the fast lane. Flashing your lights is basically like yelling GTFO!. Most people do move because they don't want to cause a scene, rather than out of courtesy. It is a debatable topic however, it's definitely not a common action.
- Wiggling on the downshift is weird? In the scene, it looks like he has to go into free gear than into 2nd. In normal H pattern transmissions, you can't easily switch into a lower gear if you clutch in, it does take a bit of effort. Even then he could of double-clutched. Clutch in to get into neutral, then clutch out when in neutral. Then clutch in to get into 2nd. I see no problem with that.
There other things that people have noted in the comment below. But to me, those are the main ones. Once again this isn't a jab at ThatDudeinBlue. He's a car review channel that doesn't know much about car stunts. Just more on car descriptions and facts.
He's a car guy, not a stunt guy.
Hear lies my rant. Thank you
I agree with everything but the drag slicks. I know plenty of people who run them on the street. Drag radials are made to run on the street. They’re not a traditional drag slick, they’re two different styles. They have a minimal tread pattern while still being a softer compound. Dodge Demons come with them factory.
I believe the flashing lights thing was specifically referring to being on the autobahn in Germany where it is more common
@@justsomedude5591 It's still not common. It's mostly used by dicks going 200kmph+ and even illegal when done too excessively.
They didn't talk about how in the safe pulling scene they say the safe weighs a lot more than could be possible to pull with those red cars
Drive was a fantastic movie and I'm a car nut. The pacing, the story, the acting was all top notch! Sure it has it's slow moments, but it's all progressing towards the bigger picture. If any of you haven't seen it I would highly suggest it!
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This dude is an enthusiast, i like how he froze at the manifold question lololol
Lol I think it’s due to the fact that there are multiple different manifolds within a car and it’s completely unclear as to which manifold is in danger, and on top of that, the floorboard of the car then flys off which makes 0 sense…
@@griffins5655 intake manifold... but from all stand alone ecu sensor readings a danger to manifold isn't one
Fun fact: Steve Mcqueen not only went to track to learn driving close. He WAS racedriver. He was so invested in driving that he spend almost all money he earned in Holywood on racing. He ran in endurance races as "gentlemen driver" and managed to get few wins. Propably the biggest was 1st place at 12hours of Sebring.
@blueboywhitie he did win the race.....the ginos over at Ferrari paid off the race officials.... It was their first win in endurance racing in a long time.... Steve knew but he didn't want to make a scene and let it go...
12:56 - "the little wiggle's kinda weird"
Erm, no. Depending on the gearbox, if the gate for second is narrow, then you can't simply make a diagonal from third to second. You have to go back, left, back, and it's not easy to do it quickly. Next time you see a manual Ferrari, take a look at the gear lever and its position in the console.
Technically he isn’t a stunt man, he’s a car enthusiast with skills. But he doesn’t get hired to do stunts in cars he does some stunts with his own car but not in film
Yarp, that's what he said in the video.
Yeah they just threw a label at him and he just went with it
Does that mean someone who plays and instrument but doesn't get hired for it isn't a musician? I'd say if he does stunts, he is a stunt driver, hired or not.
thanks Sherlock
Felipe Trop You’re welcome Watson
Honestly drive is such a good movie. It’s actually realistic, and if you have good taste, you’ll love it. The soundtrack is amazing too
And the main character is literally you
That dude in blue is a great content creator and and knows his cars. But he's not a stunt driver
I just don't get how the vault scene would even be possible. It is well done no doubt. But for me it stretches believability so out that I cannot even beleive it to work,
Ennit, he's a UA-camr.
@@Leprutz It's superhero physics. Absolute nonsense in the real world, but make it fun on film.
Best part of that scene is the safe being driven by a stunt guy, with a tiny viewing window, having to match the pulling cars' slides, to maintain the impression of momentum from the safe being dragged along.
@@durrell246 Yes this is truly insane how they did it. And that stunt guy was literally risking his life every fucking moment of it. But still like... that seen kinda took me totally out of the movie and therefor cannot even be taken seriously. I know suspension of disbelief... but in this sequence it just doesn't work.
@@Leprutz because he was wrong in his description of what they did for that scene, they actually have a second car under the vault that is driving along with the other cars
If you guys do another one of these you should definitely talk about Baby Driver!
No they don't need to lol.
I support this comment
Why are they acting like The French Connection is some obscure, underground movie and not one of the most iconic and influential action films ever made?
Because it’s not a post-Star Wars effects blockbuster, and because special effects aren’t featured or used heavily.
I've heard of it but never seen it.
Because they are pondering to the lowest common denominator, people who know shit about movies that watch these kind of videos. People who get easily amused by general facts most people know, but hosts they will act like they don't know, so the guest can explain it like he is some kind of a genius expert on the subject.
Are they general facts that most people know or do they pander (I'm guessing that's what you meant to say) to the most common denominator? Pick one.
Yeah that one hurts.
2:02 Fast And Furious race scene is the most iconic racing scene ever. Its a joke but its also hoghly respected. This movie put the whole culture on the map.
Only do this again with actual stunt driver!
Should do this with a stunt driver in the film industry next time
I don't he was a jealous dickhead. I think the narrator is super interesting and is obviously knowledgeable on what's going on. The title of the video is a bit if a misnomer given the experts line of work, and I agree that having a stuntdriver in the industry would also be interesting.
Flaschlightning actually is a shit move in Germany. Even at the Autobahn!
Definitely!
I second that.
Read the comment section, just for this!
Flashing the lights on its own isnt that shitty of a move. The thing is that ppl how flash their lights tend to catch up way too close aswell, which is the real shit move.
Then again, not realizing that there is someone coming in faster behind, is a shit move on its own...
It's not just a shit move, it's illegal. It's considered reckless driving that endangers others by distracting other drivers. Basically tailgating.
This video made me watch Drive for the first time.
What a phenomenal film.
I'd love to see an actual stunt driver react to these scenes. Not tell me how a car works
Yeah this is the first video I didn't like from them. I didn't learn anything about behind the scenes at all. I hope they get a real stunt driver.
This guy doesn’t know how a car works
I'd like to correct you guys about the german autobahn: if you flash your light's because the car in front of you is slower, it is absolutely considered to be a dick move (and i think it's a felony - not sure though)
Depending on if the Autobahn is actually empty or at least the right lane... a lot of people drive with 130 on the left lane while the right or middle one is empty😉
@@DantePac97 Which is also a felony (one of the really good German laws imo)
in Brazil people use the left-turn signal to ask for passage if someone is in the left-most lane and driving slower. Flashing lights is not considered being a dick at all, it's just a practicallity. It would be a dick move to make someone drive slower than you if you're not at the speed limit.
Most times the people flashing their lights are the ones that see you overtake a truck and wait to slow down till they are about 30 cm behind you.
I love Ronin. I’ve watched probably 50 times. Those car scenes are legendary.
Tittle: "Car guy talks to non car guys about cars."
3:40
@Gabriel D'Amours not any supra, he says “that supra” as in the one from the movie, and guess what. The real hero car did make about 550rwhp depending on the dyno.
@Gabriel D'Amours Look at the youtube channel ua-cam.com/users/craiglieberman -> He was the actual owner of the Supra that was used as the hero car. His channel is dedicated to Fast and Furious stuff, he was actually part of a few movies. (not on screen, but as an advisor)
@@codebus Thank you so very much Martin for pointing out the Craig Lieberman channel, I've followed since I read your comment and Craig's channel is FANTASTIC for these cars and F&F movies info, true gem! so thanks again!
Really he don't know shit about cars but acting like know everything, most of the thing he saying not true
Drive is an amazing movie. I actually didn't even know it existed but a youtuber talked about how much they love the movie and i just gave it a shot and I was pleasantly surprised.
BLUES BROTHERS, the mall scene and the mother of all police car crashes
Oh YES absolutely Blues Brothers!!
Yes yes yes yes
Y E S
I suggested Blues Brothers for this video, so many good chase scenes. My dad lived in Chicago when they were filming, and for the nighttime chase scenes the crew went around and gave everyone who lived along the chase route $20 to keep their house lights on all night. This was because the chase was filmed in the early morning, but was supposed to take place earlier in the evening. My Chicago family can't help but pick apart the chase scenes for geographical continuity too. All in the fun of the movie.
B L U E S B R O T H E R S
@@a.parker3049 My mom snuck out to see the filming at the gas station where one of the brothers is talking to the girl in the sports car. The next day they drove by and the gas station was gone.
In the French Connection they used the sound from the Bullet Mustang for the Pontiac Ventura. You can hear the sound of him "shifting" his automatic. Also the scene where the door on the car is ripped off it wasn't planned, it was a lady who opened her door at the wrong time and it was torn off. They had to pay her off.
If you’re gonna do this, please do Baby Driver.
They already did Baby Driver in a stuntman reacts a while ago
Man, Drive has such good scenes and they barely showed them...
I didn't like that they called Drive 'hipster' and boring... It just not a movie for the ADHD generation.
@@pixiniarts they didn't call the movie boring he was commenting on how the people at the theater called the movie boring thinking they were going to watch a fast and furious movie
pixiniarts it’s one of my favourites for someone with adhd lmao
Concurred. I was let down when the rest of what I thought was a reaction to that movie was just outro sponsors.
@@pixiniarts it's from the same guy that watches fast and furious so...
Next week, Electricians react to Hollywood scenes with switches.
More accurate would be "random guy that's turned on 500 lights reacts to Hollywood scenes with switches."
"random gamer reacts to great and bad hollywood cgi"
I cut my teeth on Bullit. To this day it's my favorite and most impressive. The other one that gets me is from "The Dead Pool" with the RC car chasing Clint Eastwood in a full sized car on the hills of San Francisco. FWIW, I had an used Pinto that we called the Bondo-Mobile. It had an A/C you could hang meet in the car with, fantastic Blau Punct sound and all I had to do was replace the transmission to have reverse. I sold it for a few hundred dollars and years later saw it still driving. There was no killing that car.
12:26 bro i'm german and doing that on the Autobahn is not only the biggest dickmove you can do, it's also illegal 😂
It's pretty much THE automotive dick move in Germany. You probably just offended more Germans by misquoting the rules there than you would have by just saying something offensive intentionally :D
Yeah, if you’re in the fast lane and you see someone speeding up behind you you’re just supposed to switch lanes by default.
Yeah I guess that was a stuntdrivers wishfull thinking... we love cars and we love driving fast, but we don't love some BMW sniffing our exhaust while going 200 km/h
I was about to point that one out too😏. The legal term is Nötigung (coercion). Don't do it😅
Came here for this comment! As a german, yes we do this, but it is the equivalent of shouting 'out of my way, d***'. Dickmove, for sure.
I love these, all of them, VFX, Stuntmen, all of them.
These are my Saturday morning cartoons.
I just wish they were longer. If you've produced anything that deserves a budget and to be included by traditional media, this is it.
I think I'm compelled to get a Crew membership just to plead that you upload the entire unedited discussions.
David sounds like he just watched some behind the scenes making of for half of these movies and doesn't know what hes talking about
It's weird because he actually does know but this video was just so bad. Not the right guy for this series, respects to him for his career but he ain't the right guy.
I love the car chase scenes in "Ronin". So good. My favorite moment is when Jean Reno, sitting next to De Niro, realizes what's up and he says "Ehh, merde!!! (oh shit)" before buckling up lol.
Can we get Jackie Chan on the show and have him talk about his stunts? His favorites, his least favorites. Would be an awesome watch.
This video should have been titled "youtuber reacts to driving" david knows his car culture but he's no stunt driver.
I agree. Not sure why they would get a youtuber and not a real stunt driver. Dude didnt even know the charger in the first fast n furious was lifted in the race with the supra.
I think knowing "his car culture" is a bit of a reach too.
he also didn't know the "little wiggle" is from double clutching on the downshift
@@aleks138 exactly. You have to double clutch unsynchronized transmissions.
@@adamc457 he also failed to mention it's impossible to do a burnout and a wheelie at the same time, instead he said it's 100% possible.
Best car chase is in Ronin
The Blues Brothers*mic drop.....
Bullit * lower shades*
@@215Fenix Agreed
@@215Fenix I almost went with Bullit, but the scope of The Blues Brothers clinched it for me....also give an honorable mention to Smokey and the Bandit.
100% agree. Although my personal favourite is the Bullitt chase
Couple of things these guys missed...With Dom's Dodge its impossible for a car to do a Burnout AND a wheelie at the same time. Then the scene pulling the safe, the cars would've never moved, even if they had infinate power and an unbreakable transmission they would'nt have had enough traction to move the safe 1 inch. Enjoyable to watch though
Yeah i had a few problems with his faf opinions to lol im pretty sure no one was getting 1000hp out of 4 cylinders and it was more about the acceleration and turning, the only common 90s import engine taking 1000hp is the supra but even that is more of a modern thing for internet views, no one would ever put 1000hp in a car for street racing
@@GusBDamme check out some modern drag racing builds. Many import guys are running insane boost and getting hp numbers well over 1000 nowadays. Modern materials and tech make a huge difference. At the time the first FnF movie was made though? Yeah 1000hp was insane
Car safes is actually real believe it or not. Was surprised
I'd love to see Ken Block or Tanner Foust do this with you guys. They're both professional rally and stunt drivers. Ken is also on UA-cam, and the owner of [HOONIGAN], and Tanner has done a ton of stunt driving in blockbuster films.