Time for Burris to Anti-up and get things RIGHT!! You:ve been saying how much you like it...plugging THEIR product, that scope should be #1 on their repair list.
Interesting that the arrow skipped upward cutting a branch from the tree behind (5:21). No idea where it ended up, but likely went some distance. A good example of why shooting in a residential area is not recommended.
That shot on the woodchuck was absolutely wild😮 I've given up on my Oracle X. I have to send mine back a third time and when it comes back, off to Ebay it goes. When it works, it's fabulous. But I'm not going into the woods with a scope that works some of the time.
Go with a single crosshair scope with an illuminated dot in the center with an HHA Speed Dial and be done. No, you won’t have the combination of rangefinding and scope in one but you won’t have any BS either.
@@Deathbybunjie it’ll give you accuracy to the yard so if you range something at 23 yards you dial it for 23 yards and you hit at 23 yards. I’d say that’s pinpoint. I have the speed dial on both my Excalibur’s and they are spot on to the yard
@@charlesbeaver5665 oh, I got your, definitely that is a good alternative. I don't care for having to move my hand andile in the exact yardage but believe me I have thought about switching to that style of scope!
@@Deathbybunjie then I can think of three alternatives: 1) Garmin-(which I wouldn’t take even if it was free. For the price it should come with a lifetime warranty and it doesn’t.) 2) Sig Sauer BDX system: similar to the Burris, but the rangefinder is separate, not combined like the Burris. 3) ATN: again similar to the Burris, but not rangefinder and scope combined.
Sorry to hear you get a new job in october. I remember you work self employed as lawyer. Wish you the best in the new position. And of course a nice buck this season, even with iron sights.
Burris Oracle X now has a software update available at no charge from Burris. You have to send it in and Burris pays for all shipping. The update is to resolve issues with battery drain - high cr123 main battery running down quickly. Just fyi if you have a OX and have frustrating issues with the battery. Mine took about only 2 weeks to send it in, update, have it returned. I hear it fixes the issue but time will tell for me if it actually does, I’m hopeful and we will see.
I thought long and hard over the Oracle X. There were a few features I wish it would have had. I ended up going with the ATN X-Sight 4K Pro and the Ballistic Laser 1500. Part I don't like about it = It's a bit big and heavy. I haven't completed the setup yet, but it seems like a pretty solid scope. Looking forward to completing the setup and hitting the woods soon.
Wood chuck is very good eating to bad it got to it's hole I'm not too sure about scopes but I will withhold saying anything until I try them thanks for sharing this three stars
That woodchuck mount is awesome! Wish we had ‘em here in Texas…I’ve taken to shooting squirrels. Not easy to do with a crossbow! So far 10 shots and only 2 kills! 😢
Funny, you and I sound exactly alike... I swear if it were in January EVERYTHING would work perfect. but because it's Hunting Season EVERYTHING goes wrong!! I get it 100%
Well great stories, from scopes that work well and not at all. I still shoot a 20-year-old vertical compound bow, as well as a very slow recurve crossbow. One I shoot out to 30-35 yards, the other 20-25 yards. You have to know your equipment limitations, for sure.
I was going to pull the trigger on a second one maybe not now the one I have works great.. i did pill out unreliable nitro today and put the scope that came with it on and still have trouble with accuracy. Starting to think reverse draw bows are the problem i see a lot of other people have the same problems.
Awesome videos… currently reading your books. Very informative and entertaining. Your videos on this scope makes me want one…. But the problems makes me wary
I had a Burris not power on that I had to send back as well a year or so ago. I love the scope though or I would get something else. I agree it is very frustrating though and makes me concerned about it.
Rich I love your new introduction video! Great work! And that was an amazing shot that OB made at 80 yards! I came so close to buying one from NACHEZ at $499, but decided it was still way to complicated for my limited technology skills! Keeping it simply and planning to hunt the entire FALL every month! Well the benefits of being retired!
@@Deathbybunjie Well, us anal long range gun guys check zero all the time even with guns that have been scoped for a couple years, JUST TO BE SURE. Mounting issues can be a thing, either coming loose or bouncing around in a truck and getting banged around. Since the Burris is at least partially electronic I can see it might be different than a good old boy scope like all of mine. Just keep that in mind though, bumps can knock scope zero out of whack so start with the cheapest option and work your way up to the expensive ones like replacement. I'm bummed your 'refurbished' one was a dud !
*Following your saga of scope and limbs issues, here's my 2 cents for what it's worth:* *First, I think crossbow manufacturers, in an effort to maintain market share, chased the **_"bigger is better"_** mantra. Ever-increasing advertised arrow speeds which fed a positive feedback loop. Problem is the hype outstripped the engineering (in my humble opinion). Yes, they **_can_** fire arrows at their advertised speeds; but the toll it's taking on the crossbow - specifically the limbs - is beyond our materials science capabilities at the moment. At least in the price ranges at which crossbows are sold. I'm sure NASA could build one that would hold up to the repeated strain, but who's going to pay $2 million dollars for a space-age, one-off crossbow?* *Secondly, I think scope manufacturers - historically building for powder rifles and only recently dipping their toe in the crossbow market - don't yet have the harmonics and stresses unique to crossbows dialed in yet. I'm not suggesting crossbows produce **_more_** recoil than a rifle; far from it. But I think the oscillations the crossbow imparts into scopes differs significantly from that of rifles in a way that is causing internal damage that isn't experienced with the powder burners. Thus the problems with the crossbow-specific scopes. Especially one as large, ungainly, and with a weird center of gravity as the Burris.*
Is the borescope too heavy for the scope mount compared to the Excalibur scope. The borescope looks heavy and might be applying too much leverage on the crossbow mount.Great video Rich thank you
Sorry to hear about this issue. I too want to love my Oracle X. It's always worked for me but I've only had it ONE year. I'm used to scopes on my rifles that i purchased as a teen-ager, still work 50 years later as well as the day I bought them. Can the Oracle X do the same? I have my doubts.
I’ve had to send my Burris Fast Fire 3 red dot back twice. Glad they have such a great warranty cause I needed it. I couldn’t trust it, it’s gone. I also went to Toyota years ago 👍🏻👍🏻
that scope seems decdent but for the price i have heard so many horror storys and you have confirmed it yhou can always try the omega 3 scope granted its not so much a scope has its a video screen lol sadly last season i used a KI lumin speed ring scope and i can be shooting perfect then the next day its off by a few then missing completely like you seid i put my stock scope back on and it was perfect again but the 81 yard shot was awsome perfect airstrike on the woodchuck
Have you tried the "working" Oracle X on Bunjie 3.0? In the slow mo video the scope moves a lot! I wonder if the Oracle is just too heavy for the mount?
Damn, them things get pretty big, a? In all my years of living in Michigan, I've only seen one. And that was in a subdivision area, or I worked, couple years ago. At first I couldn't figure out what it was. Absolutely blew my mind. Never seen one up close before. You say they're good eating?
@one-eyedarcher503 when I am able to leave the house I will be buying one! And all cause of u and cause of rich and the forums thank u so much for that I really appreciate it!
I also like the Burris oracle X crossbow scopes and have two currently with no issues. One thing I did find and corrects was that there are two screws that hold the scope to the mount. These will come loose so I used blue loctite on these as one of mine worked its way loose. Did you happen to check this before sending the scope back? i love your videos by the way. I have been crossbow hunting in WV since they started to allow them back in 2013 and love it. Hardly ever rifle hunt anymore.
I thought this crossbow appreciation month was going well, with no dry fired bows. At 16:13 of video, I knew this was serious by the look in your eyes. The 81yd shot was like a javelin missile. I have no idea what's going on with these scopes???
Thank you for this, you kind of made my afternoon, you are right that it could be worse with a dry fire. We're going to have to wait and see what's going on with those Scopes and I will continue to update you of course. That look at 1613 is pretty funny!
What a shot you and Bunjie made!…81 yds. I saw the arrow from the Scorpid and Luminoc hit the ground over the top of the prairie dog and fly up in the air….that’s how it got in the tree…unbelievable 😂. Yea, Burris should have faster turnaround time. Good luck in September though. There’s something better probably just around the corner as far as xbow/scope combinations for you,,I bet. Love, love your honesty in your videos and Genevieve’s tracking skills. Did that critter bring your arrow down the hole with him?
I love your show! I just bought a new tenpoint flatline 460 w/burris scope!! Now I'm wondering if I should take it back and get other scope. I wish I would of seen this show sooner! Is your other burris scope still working and for how long?
You have the same luck I do. If it can go wrong it will. I hope they do fix it for you, but I have no doubt that they will balk on their warranty one way or another. Warranty stuff is an ordeal. I hope you can give them a rip if they try to rip you off. The BUNGIE shot was awesome 👌.
I did a big side by side comparison before I picked this one. I really do prefer it and I want this one. The Garmin maxes out at 80 yards and has way too much on the screen, too many features for me.
I was hoping it was that simple. Everything was tight and then I took it off and check the screws underneath and those were tight too. Unfortunately I think it's something internal. I'm anxious to find out what the company says.
Are you really getting ride of the scopes? Are they really not worth the money I just bought a brand new one because of your videos then I see this when I got home
I'm very frustrated of course but I still believe these Scopes are the future of crossbow hunting. Maybe not this model but this kind of scope. Right now, for what's out there, this is my best option. I'm going to give them another go! When they work, they work fantastically!
@@Deathbybunjie glad to hear that I will keep mine I was like I am bought to return my crossbow scope right now. You got me into hunting this will be my first season hunting. I live in Maryland any good tips also I tried getting the cheek piece you have but I can’t find it
Rich, I think you bought a needs to be refurbished scope. All the refurbished ones I've seen are way more than that. It sounds like the shop took that scope back to make a good customer happy and he's selling it to recoup his cost.
Earlier today I sent my 35-day old Burris Oracle X back and received the same lame email stating they are going to make me wait 5 - 6 turn around. It cost me $46 for UPS ground to send them a brand-new optic back to be fixed, I got to say I'm very unhappy with Burris, and when opening weekend comes and it's not mounted on my crossbow, I’m going to be even more unhappy.
Have declared war on the groundhog here. They are digging holes all around the neighbors' buildings and my own. One pushed its way into my garage apartment and "dug up" the linoleum at both doors, I mean shreaded it, and tore out a piece of dry wall. I shot three with a break barrel air rifle and one with subsonic .22. I purchased a PCP air rifle and shot two more. I only recovered two out of six. The other four did the "self burial" thing and made it to their hole. I also missed one at 27 yards with crossbow on video. Never have tried to eat one.
I got a wicked ridge blackhawk 360...cheapest xbow tenpoint had and cheapest my local archery shop had😉 definitely wont be pulling off any 50 yard shots with my 505g arrow but its all good. Life is easy😉
I had the exact same problem with my Burris Oracle X on my Tenpoint Nitro 505(old version without scope strutts). Not the case with my Ravin R29X. Consistent bullseye drilling at 80 yards. Not the case with the Tenpoint. You breathe on it wrong with that heavier Burris scope on that janky Tenpoint mount. You can kiss your arrow bye-bye if you so much as think of shooting out to 80 yards. What is irritating me, is that Tenpoint isn't providing a solution to retrofit the older Nitro 505 crossbows. It's like they're saying "thanks for your money sucker". If you want the problem fixed, you have to buy a brand new crossbow. Yep, I did exactly that, by buying a Ravin.
Good for you, I don't have a problem with your decision at all. I've commented on that and kind of thought the same thing about tenpoint. On one hand, I get it that when they released those they might not have known that larger heavier Scopes would become popular. I get that. But when you make a work around for the new models, they should have included a way to retrofit the old ones. 100%.
Still researching the subject, but there is literally nothing out there. The HALO is not being made any more and I am researching the Pard NV008S(LRF) ( popular among air gun folks ) to see if it's for us or not. Everything except the Halo Hyper X Laser-Rangefinding Crossbow Scope is in the $1,000 range just like Burris. The Halo looked great but it's not being made any more. The fun thing about the Pard unit is it's also night vision ! Remains to be seen if it's a proper ranging reticle though.
Sorry your having these issues, seams like all sudden this scope is failing. Ive never used a burris oracle X myself,but i have the Garmin X 1i on my tenpoints for 2 years, no problems, im not going yo compair them, in a vs battle, i hope that you get it working great again,once you loose trust in something, you never fully trust it again, thats the way I am. Good luck Rich happy hunting. And god bless
you know I had also purchased one of those scopes off of your links and I also sent mine back and got my money back because the technology didn’t work right in it. Also, I didn’t get a remote in with mine… so you and I both had this issue of getting a bad refurbished scope so that tells me that they are not doing a very good quality control job at actually fixing these units and maybe they’re not testing them far enough… I hopped on the wagon for the scope this year I had two units that I owned had to go back because they did not function correctly. I spent $200 out of my own pocket just to test these units. I am done with burris and I will not hunt with that scope. I could not imagine lining up a perfect shot on a deer and pulling that trigger and either missing it or even worse gut shooting that deer because the scope was off
I did shoot a deer with it last year, and when they work they work great! The one that I bought at discount did not come with a remote either but the company was real quick to tell me they'll send me a remote. We shall see, story continues to evolve.
As an employee of a company that manufacturers $10,000+ refrigerators and freezers, I'm here to tell you that is an unreasonable expectation. Anything man made can and will break, regardless of the price tag. That's the only reason companies have warranties in the first place.
@@TheBlackrider85 yes, but to have a warranty that exhibits an END to the whole reason why you got the item in the first place is ridiculous. Your fridge company isn’t going to replace every item in the unit when the unit fails is it?!?
@Artisanwoodworks73 No, obviously, we only replace everything that was broken, but you can bet it isn't a top priority for anyone at the factory. If Bueris is like us, then don't even have a department that only does warranty work and simply resend it down the line to be fit into the scheduled that actuality makes the company additional money.
Don’t do it Rich! You have a GREAT crossbow, made an 81yd shot with the Burris -keep the pairing. I tried the oracle x for my ravin, sent it back as I couldn’t get it to zero. Maybe it’s the power of the over 400 fps crossbows throwing off the oracle? All hail Bunjie II
*And it gets even, **_EVEN_** worse. If the rumors of new incoming lockdowns, etc. are to be believed, I'd multiply their estimate of 5 to 6 weeks by 2 to be on the safe side.*
I looked at the Burris and the Garmin when they hit the market. I decided to stick with the TenPoint Evo X marksman scope. I just cannot trust the electronic scopes when it comes to bow hunting. I do use a ATN for night hunting hogs. Losing a hog because of a scope problem is not like losing a trophy buck
Time for Burris to Anti-up and get things RIGHT!! You:ve been saying how much you like it...plugging THEIR product, that scope should be #1 on their repair list.
That woodchuck shot was the most awesome shot I have ever witnessed! Thanks for taking care of that pesky chuck digging in my sand mound! 😁👍
Thanks, Jim as always, I think the OB gets credit for that one LOL
I changed to the victory x bolts stacking them at 40 yards sorry to here about your scope
Interesting that the arrow skipped upward cutting a branch from the tree behind (5:21). No idea where it ended up, but likely went some distance. A good example of why shooting in a residential area is not recommended.
That shot on the woodchuck was absolutely wild😮
I've given up on my Oracle X. I have to send mine back a third time and when it comes back, off to Ebay it goes. When it works, it's fabulous. But I'm not going into the woods with a scope that works some of the time.
Thank you, and man I did not need to hear that about the scope LOL hope all is good otherwise!
I was just getting ready to order that scope! Hmmm.... Guess I'll have to try the Garmin instead. The woodchuck shot was awesome!
Thank you!
Nice shot, I was sure you were going to say we're not going to take that shot. That was pretty cool
Mine still in box will not use it again going back to my hold scope set up feel your pain
Throw a Lumix Max View speed ring on there and get to hunting! Thanks for the vids Rich! Love it.
Oh Rich what tangled webs we weave. Great to evolve but where do we draw the line? Three Oracle X’s 😂 Good luck
Go with a single crosshair scope with an illuminated dot in the center with an HHA Speed Dial and be done.
No, you won’t have the combination of rangefinding and scope in one but you won’t have any BS either.
But that won't give me pinpoint accuracy
@@Deathbybunjie it’ll give you accuracy to the yard so if you range something at 23 yards you dial it for 23 yards and you hit at 23 yards. I’d say that’s pinpoint.
I have the speed dial on both my Excalibur’s and they are spot on to the yard
@@charlesbeaver5665 oh, I got your, definitely that is a good alternative. I don't care for having to move my hand andile in the exact yardage but believe me I have thought about switching to that style of scope!
@@Deathbybunjie then I can think of three alternatives:
1) Garmin-(which I wouldn’t take even if it was free. For the price it should come with a lifetime warranty and it doesn’t.)
2) Sig Sauer BDX system: similar to the Burris, but the rangefinder is separate, not combined like the Burris.
3) ATN: again similar to the Burris, but not rangefinder and scope combined.
Sorry to hear you get a new job in october. I remember you work self employed as lawyer. Wish you the best in the new position. And of course a nice buck this season, even with iron sights.
Yeah, the timing isn't the best but the future is bright that's for sure
Burris Oracle X now has a software update available at no charge from Burris. You have to send it in and Burris pays for all shipping. The update is to resolve issues with battery drain - high cr123 main battery running down quickly. Just fyi if you have a OX and have frustrating issues with the battery. Mine took about only 2 weeks to send it in, update, have it returned. I hear it fixes the issue but time will tell for me if it actually does, I’m hopeful and we will see.
Sorry to hear that! Love the videos!
Archery season is coming around again in pa
Oh yeah! (Or crossbow season as I call it haha)
Westmoreland county Pa here, never thought hunting ground hawgs with Xbow awesome idea
Incredible shot on that groundhog. Ive killed several in my yard this year with the crossbow but not at 80yds. Great job!
Thanks and thanks for watching!
I thought long and hard over the Oracle X. There were a few features I wish it would have had.
I ended up going with the ATN X-Sight 4K Pro and the Ballistic Laser 1500.
Part I don't like about it = It's a bit big and heavy.
I haven't completed the setup yet, but it seems like a pretty solid scope.
Looking forward to completing the setup and hitting the woods soon.
wooden dowel rod notched for finger lever on battery cap works like a charm
Yep got one, I wouldn't say perfect but definitely better!
Awesome shot 💪
Thanks!
Wood chuck is very good eating to bad it got to it's hole I'm not too sure about scopes but I will withhold saying anything until I try them thanks for sharing this three stars
That woodchuck mount is awesome! Wish we had ‘em here in Texas…I’ve taken to shooting squirrels. Not easy to do with a crossbow! So far 10 shots and only 2 kills! 😢
Funny, you and I sound exactly alike... I swear if it were in January EVERYTHING would work perfect. but because it's Hunting Season EVERYTHING goes wrong!! I get it 100%
Well great stories, from scopes that work well and not at all. I still shoot a 20-year-old vertical compound bow, as well as a very slow recurve crossbow. One I shoot out to 30-35 yards, the other 20-25 yards. You have to know your equipment limitations, for sure.
I was going to pull the trigger on a second one maybe not now the one I have works great.. i did pill out unreliable nitro today and put the scope that came with it on and still have trouble with accuracy. Starting to think reverse draw bows are the problem i see a lot of other people have the same problems.
At this point, I would consider sticking with what has worked for 14 years. The grass is not always greener on the other side.
Awesome videos… currently reading your books. Very informative and entertaining.
Your videos on this scope makes me want one…. But the problems makes me wary
Thanks, great to hear, as for the scope I am wary also haha but over time we'll see how they work out, when they work they are awesome that's for sure
Keep us posted please. I really like your unbiased reviews. Thank you
I had a Burris not power on that I had to send back as well a year or so ago. I love the scope though or I would get something else. I agree it is very frustrating though and makes me concerned about it.
Rich I love your new introduction video! Great work! And that was an amazing shot that OB made at 80 yards! I came so close to buying one from NACHEZ at $499, but decided it was still way to complicated for my limited technology skills! Keeping it simply and planning to hunt the entire FALL every month! Well the benefits of being retired!
As I mentioned before a wandering zero can be (often is ) over or under torqued scope mount surfaces. Check that first and go from there.
It worked flawlessly for over a year
@@Deathbybunjie Well, us anal long range gun guys check zero all the time even with guns that have been scoped for a couple years, JUST TO BE SURE. Mounting issues can be a thing, either coming loose or bouncing around in a truck and getting banged around. Since the Burris is at least partially electronic I can see it might be different than a good old boy scope like all of mine. Just keep that in mind though, bumps can knock scope zero out of whack so start with the cheapest option and work your way up to the expensive ones like replacement. I'm bummed your 'refurbished' one was a dud !
@@jeffhays1968 oh yeah, I agree 100%, I checked that stuff all the time, I'm always turning an allen wrench LOL
Oh gosh! That’s wild! May as well keep the one on the OB!
But for that price there’s shouldn’t be issues
That no laughing matter to dead serious really got me for some reason😅
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hawke SB 1 awesome....thats all i can say ...try it...THE RIXTER
I bought mine on your recommendation. I won't go through three. If mine fails, I'm done with electronic scopes forever.
That’s nuts! Spending that kind of money on a scope that wont hold zero! I’ve had a mixed bag on Burris rifle scopes. :(
*Following your saga of scope and limbs issues, here's my 2 cents for what it's worth:*
*First, I think crossbow manufacturers, in an effort to maintain market share, chased the **_"bigger is better"_** mantra. Ever-increasing advertised arrow speeds which fed a positive feedback loop. Problem is the hype outstripped the engineering (in my humble opinion). Yes, they **_can_** fire arrows at their advertised speeds; but the toll it's taking on the crossbow - specifically the limbs - is beyond our materials science capabilities at the moment. At least in the price ranges at which crossbows are sold. I'm sure NASA could build one that would hold up to the repeated strain, but who's going to pay $2 million dollars for a space-age, one-off crossbow?*
*Secondly, I think scope manufacturers - historically building for powder rifles and only recently dipping their toe in the crossbow market - don't yet have the harmonics and stresses unique to crossbows dialed in yet. I'm not suggesting crossbows produce **_more_** recoil than a rifle; far from it. But I think the oscillations the crossbow imparts into scopes differs significantly from that of rifles in a way that is causing internal damage that isn't experienced with the powder burners. Thus the problems with the crossbow-specific scopes. Especially one as large, ungainly, and with a weird center of gravity as the Burris.*
You could be on to something that's for sure!
I so wanted one of the Burris myself. But I’m rethinking it know
I'm sure the majority of them work but man this stinks
I know you are correct
who else has a warranty for life on a scope like this for $800?
Thanks again for a great video.
That is just horrible news 😢there's got to be a better option I hope 🙏 it works out for you and thanks again for the help and info 👍
Awesome video, Rich.
Burris should have sent you a brand new scope! They definitely aren't the same quality that they used to be!
I think it's the curse of Bunjie. Just use bunjie and your good 😄
Indeed! Even the Oracle X works on the OB!
I've seen Phil before, but this is the first time I've seen him smiling 😊
His fur patterns look that way LOL but he's not happy haha
Is the borescope too heavy for the scope mount compared to the Excalibur scope. The borescope looks heavy and might be applying too much leverage on the crossbow mount.Great video Rich thank you
That could be!
Sorry to hear about this issue. I too want to love my Oracle X. It's always worked for me but I've only had it ONE year. I'm used to scopes on my rifles that i purchased as a teen-ager, still work 50 years later as well as the day I bought them. Can the Oracle X do the same? I have my doubts.
We'll find out together sounds like. When they work, they sure work!
I’ve had to send my Burris Fast Fire 3 red dot back twice. Glad they have such a great warranty cause I needed it. I couldn’t trust it, it’s gone. I also went to Toyota years ago 👍🏻👍🏻
Lol thanks for this
that scope seems decdent but for the price i have heard so many horror storys and you have confirmed it yhou can always try the omega 3 scope granted its not so much a scope has its a video screen lol sadly last season i used a KI lumin speed ring scope and i can be shooting perfect then the next day its off by a few then missing completely like you seid i put my stock scope back on and it was perfect again but the 81 yard shot was awsome perfect airstrike on the woodchuck
Bunjie is trying to tell you to hunt with the O B 😎
Indeed! The Curse of Bunjie 💯
That’s a real bummer Rich! I’ve heard a lot of people have problems with them. Technology is nice, but only when it works!
Trijicon acog crossbow scope, video from: Bad River Outdoors,range finding scope,less than 3 minute video ❤
Try this on retrieving wood chuck. Get you a 5 to 10 foot of barb wire with a loop in the end. Put loop down hole twist and pull him out 😊
Not a bad idea, I did stick the handle of the shovel down here to make sure that he wasn't just out of sight
We do that on cotton tail rabbits that jumps into the hole after being shot
Don’t count on me to buy one from you. Lol. I’ll be keeping the DLX on my Excal. Hope you still have a couple laying around.
I have three LOL
@@Deathbybunjie that’s good. I’m now giving mine up. Lol.
Have you tried the "working" Oracle X on Bunjie 3.0? In the slow mo video the scope moves a lot! I wonder if the Oracle is just too heavy for the mount?
Could be that... it was working so well on the OB that I didn't want to take it off but looks like that's the only option now
I once bought two Burriis scopes at the same time. My first and last.
😄 I get that for sure
Damn, them things get pretty big, a? In all my years of living in Michigan, I've only seen one. And that was in a subdivision area, or I worked, couple years ago. At first I couldn't figure out what it was. Absolutely blew my mind. Never seen one up close before. You say they're good eating?
If you cook them right, I tend to overcook them but my mom has it figured out LOL
Here we go 😆
Love ur write up on the swat x1 on cbn!
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@@Derrek4Real Thanks man! Appreciate it! Love that bow. 🥰
@one-eyedarcher503 when I am able to leave the house I will be buying one! And all cause of u and cause of rich and the forums thank u so much for that I really appreciate it!
@@Derrek4Real O boy! I hope everything turns out OK with it. Thats a lot of pressure on our shoulders. 😆 It will! 👍
I also like the Burris oracle X crossbow scopes and have two currently with no issues. One thing I did find and corrects was that there are two screws that hold the scope to the mount. These will come loose so I used blue loctite on these as one of mine worked its way loose. Did you happen to check this before sending the scope back? i love your videos by the way. I have been crossbow hunting in WV since they started to allow them back in 2013 and love it. Hardly ever rifle hunt anymore.
I did check that after I took it off, but you.can bet I'll check it before putting them on from now on too
I would add the loctite so there is no issue down the road. Interested in seeing what Burris says about the scope.@@Deathbybunjie
@17:16.... Another Crossbow?? very unspecific there... did you cave and buy a Killer Instinct SWAT X1?? Bungie IV 🤔???
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I thought this crossbow appreciation month was going well, with no dry fired bows. At 16:13 of video, I knew this was serious by the look in your eyes. The 81yd shot was like a javelin missile. I have no idea what's going on with these scopes???
Thank you for this, you kind of made my afternoon, you are right that it could be worse with a dry fire. We're going to have to wait and see what's going on with those Scopes and I will continue to update you of course. That look at 1613 is pretty funny!
Thank you Rich. I am enjoying this much more than Depp vs Heard on Netflix right now.
@@philiplang1361 😄
Hey.... where did you get that cheek weld?... need one similar to that
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What a shot you and Bunjie made!…81 yds. I saw the arrow from the Scorpid and Luminoc hit the ground over the top of the prairie dog and fly up in the air….that’s how it got in the tree…unbelievable 😂. Yea, Burris should have faster turnaround time. Good luck in September though. There’s something better probably just around the corner as far as xbow/scope combinations for you,,I bet. Love, love your honesty in your videos and Genevieve’s tracking skills. Did that critter bring your arrow down the hole with him?
Pretty sure that zombie went down in the hole LOL
I love your show! I just bought a new tenpoint flatline 460 w/burris scope!! Now I'm wondering if I should take it back and get other scope. I wish I would of seen this show sooner! Is your other burris scope still working and for how long?
The other one works perfect, that's the one I shot the woodchuck with.
You have the same luck I do. If it can go wrong it will. I hope they do fix it for you, but I have no doubt that they will balk on their warranty one way or another. Warranty stuff is an ordeal. I hope you can give them a rip if they try to rip you off. The BUNGIE shot was awesome 👌.
Thanks, I appreciate it. I do think they will fix it and send it back but I'm just wondering how long they will work.
Have you tried the garmin xero a bit pricey but what’s not with the range finding scopes
I did a big side by side comparison before I picked this one. I really do prefer it and I want this one. The Garmin maxes out at 80 yards and has way too much on the screen, too many features for me.
So, I am trying to decide between the Burris and the Garmin. If you had it to do all over again, would you buy the Garmin. I value your opinion.
If I had to say right now I would still go with the burris. When it works, it works! Lifetime forever for anyone warranty is pretty good too.
Terribly frustrating! What about Garmin X1i?
We'll see how the "fixed" ones work first I guess...
So was it just the mounting base that was throwing of Bunjie 3.0's? Sure it wasn't just a loose screw or two?
I was hoping it was that simple. Everything was tight and then I took it off and check the screws underneath and those were tight too. Unfortunately I think it's something internal. I'm anxious to find out what the company says.
@@Deathbybunjie hmmm. Dang.
So are we breaking the bank and grabbing a Garmin Xero x1i ?
Doubtful, but you never know
and the arc on your gopher miss was pretty plain to see which is not what we were all jabbering about in your slo-mo. what was that, 30 yards or so ?
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@@Deathbybunjie LOL why I need a Burris.
Are you really getting ride of the scopes? Are they really not worth the money I just bought a brand new one because of your videos then I see this when I got home
I'm very frustrated of course but I still believe these Scopes are the future of crossbow hunting. Maybe not this model but this kind of scope. Right now, for what's out there, this is my best option. I'm going to give them another go! When they work, they work fantastically!
@@Deathbybunjie glad to hear that I will keep mine I was like I am bought to return my crossbow scope right now. You got me into hunting this will be my first season hunting. I live in Maryland any good tips also I tried getting the cheek piece you have but I can’t find it
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Check out that video and also good luck down there!
Rich, I think you bought a needs to be refurbished scope. All the refurbished ones I've seen are way more than that. It sounds like the shop took that scope back to make a good customer happy and he's selling it to recoup his cost.
Time will tell!
Earlier today I sent my 35-day old Burris Oracle X back and received the same lame email stating they are going to make me wait 5 - 6 turn around. It cost me $46 for UPS ground to send them a brand-new optic back to be fixed, I got to say I'm very unhappy with Burris, and when opening weekend comes and it's not mounted on my crossbow, I’m going to be even more unhappy.
Dave sent me prepaid stuff for the UPS, look into that next time. What am I saying? I hope there isn't a next time!
5 to 6 weeks is unacceptable for turn around time .damm sweet shot on thst chuck
Thank you, appreciate it. This was a video that's full of good and bad, am I right?
Have declared war on the groundhog here. They are digging holes all around the neighbors' buildings and my own. One pushed its way into my garage apartment and "dug up" the linoleum at both doors, I mean shreaded it, and tore out a piece of dry wall. I shot three with a break barrel air rifle and one with subsonic .22. I purchased a PCP air rifle and shot two more. I only recovered two out of six. The other four did the "self burial" thing and made it to their hole. I also missed one at 27 yards with crossbow on video. Never have tried to eat one.
Wow good luck!
Good deal 500? Thats more than my whole crossbow mr lawyer/future DA moneybags!
Lol I hear you 100%
I got a wicked ridge blackhawk 360...cheapest xbow tenpoint had and cheapest my local archery shop had😉 definitely wont be pulling off any 50 yard shots with my 505g arrow but its all good. Life is easy😉
Time to go old school 😅
The facebook is Burris Oracle X owners
I'm on there 💯
I had the exact same problem with my Burris Oracle X on my Tenpoint Nitro 505(old version without scope strutts). Not the case with my Ravin R29X. Consistent bullseye drilling at 80 yards. Not the case with the Tenpoint. You breathe on it wrong with that heavier Burris scope on that janky Tenpoint mount. You can kiss your arrow bye-bye if you so much as think of shooting out to 80 yards. What is irritating me, is that Tenpoint isn't providing a solution to retrofit the older Nitro 505 crossbows. It's like they're saying "thanks for your money sucker". If you want the problem fixed, you have to buy a brand new crossbow. Yep, I did exactly that, by buying a Ravin.
Good for you, I don't have a problem with your decision at all. I've commented on that and kind of thought the same thing about tenpoint. On one hand, I get it that when they released those they might not have known that larger heavier Scopes would become popular. I get that. But when you make a work around for the new models, they should have included a way to retrofit the old ones. 100%.
How much for the scope
$799 at Wyvern, new..
@@TranquilityAcres rich said a go deal
After watching this kinda glad I stayed away from this scope. Leopold vendetta mounted on mine. 4 yrs now no issues
Still researching the subject, but there is literally nothing out there. The HALO is not being made any more and I am researching the Pard NV008S(LRF) ( popular among air gun folks ) to see if it's for us or not. Everything except the Halo Hyper X Laser-Rangefinding Crossbow Scope is in the $1,000 range just like Burris. The Halo looked great but it's not being made any more. The fun thing about the Pard unit is it's also night vision ! Remains to be seen if it's a proper ranging reticle though.
Sorry your having these issues, seams like all sudden this scope is failing. Ive never used a burris oracle X myself,but i have the Garmin X 1i on my tenpoints for 2 years, no problems, im not going yo compair them, in a vs battle, i hope that you get it working great again,once you loose trust in something, you never fully trust it again, thats the way I am. Good luck Rich happy hunting. And god bless
Similar to the movie Tommy Boy, warranties are great, but I'd prefer a quality product.
you know I had also purchased one of those scopes off of your links and I also sent mine back and got my money back because the technology didn’t work right in it. Also, I didn’t get a remote in with mine… so you and I both had this issue of getting a bad refurbished scope so that tells me that they are not doing a very good quality control job at actually fixing these units and maybe they’re not testing them far enough… I hopped on the wagon for the scope this year I had two units that I owned had to go back because they did not function correctly. I spent $200 out of my own pocket just to test these units. I am done with burris and I will not hunt with that scope. I could not imagine lining up a perfect shot on a deer and pulling that trigger and either missing it or even worse gut shooting that deer because the scope was off
I did shoot a deer with it last year, and when they work they work great! The one that I bought at discount did not come with a remote either but the company was real quick to tell me they'll send me a remote. We shall see, story continues to evolve.
U trying the garmin
Probably not, Burris or bust I think
something like an $899+ scope should NEVER give you problems
$799 at WyvernCreations
As an employee of a company that manufacturers $10,000+ refrigerators and freezers, I'm here to tell you that is an unreasonable expectation. Anything man made can and will break, regardless of the price tag. That's the only reason companies have warranties in the first place.
@@TheBlackrider85 yes, but to have a warranty that exhibits an END to the whole reason why you got the item in the first place is ridiculous.
Your fridge company isn’t going to replace every item in the unit when the unit fails is it?!?
@Artisanwoodworks73 No, obviously, we only replace everything that was broken, but you can bet it isn't a top priority for anyone at the factory. If Bueris is like us, then don't even have a department that only does warranty work and simply resend it down the line to be fit into the scheduled that actuality makes the company additional money.
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Don’t do it Rich! You have a GREAT crossbow, made an 81yd shot with the Burris -keep the pairing. I tried the oracle x for my ravin, sent it back as I couldn’t get it to zero. Maybe it’s the power of the over 400 fps crossbows throwing off the oracle? All hail Bunjie II
We shall see!
Yea I think I would have had a bonfire with Burris … actually I use their full field 4 on my 6.5 creedmoor and never had an issue great glass
The glass on these is pretty good, we'll see where this goes
*And it gets even, **_EVEN_** worse. If the rumors of new incoming lockdowns, etc. are to be believed, I'd multiply their estimate of 5 to 6 weeks by 2 to be on the safe side.*
I looked at the Burris and the Garmin when they hit the market. I decided to stick with the TenPoint Evo X marksman scope. I just cannot trust the electronic scopes when it comes to bow hunting. I do use a ATN for night hunting hogs. Losing a hog because of a scope problem is not like losing a trophy buck
Raffle one of them off and donate some of the money to your favorite charity. If it were me the OB would be going to Maryland. Reliability kills IMO
I know another guy who got his refurbished oracle and it didn't work either!.....unreal and unacceptable......
Get the swat x1. We know you wanna 😂😂😂
What scope would I put on it LOL
Maybe it’s time for a Garmin, you should be able to hunt as much as you want your the boss.
SEVR you’ll never need another broadhead
The Good, the Bad and the.........Bunjie? LOL
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Can you say Garmin. The CEO of ATN and BURRIS must be best buds.
Garmins are huge pain in the arse but once you get there your living th dream.
? Not aware of that issue but also it must not shift with a different scope on there
Leave it on the OB and take it to Maryland instead. The OB has never let you down.
Indeed!
It was a hole in one.
Yeah, you got it!