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I’ve had my RT since 2019. Love it everyday and it never gets old. Get compliments everyday on it. Started at 23 miles just hit 70k miles this New year. No problem with it at all.
@@Darealistbruh5 kills me that people don’t understand that the r/t is what started this american muscle era. the first “muscle” car was a chrysler lmfao
Just got me a 2021 dodge charger R/T like 4 months ago. Of course i would love more speed and power and a demonnnnn but i am so happy with my R/T. Its my first V8. I had a kia soul before this so 😂 i got that sinamon stick too! Im happy and blessed to even be in a mopar! Thank you God! And thank u for all this info!
I recently got a R/T charger. The scat and hellcat are great (wish I could afford one lol) but here the mark ups are just insane. Funny enough however, the R/T trims don’t have much if any mark up at all. There is almost a 12K difference between the R/T and Scat. The R/T is my daily driver, it’s actually very good on gas. Very comfortable and sounds great. I’m not a great driver or pro with muscle cars, so a fast but controllable car is more ideal for me lol. Nice video 👍
@@urfathercookin still jumps off the line and is neck and neck with a scat until 70-80 mph when racing off a dig and then the extra 115 hp kicks in. 18+ R/T’s are the way to go with the super track pak
Here is another thing to consider if you are looking for performance on a budget; you can get an R/T with the super track pack which gives you the LS rear differential, all the infotainment goodies that allow you to monitor track day data, it comes with wider rims and tires, better braking system, cold air intake, paddle shifters in the automatic, larger sway bars, Bilstein performance shocks that lower the ride height, and best of all a different performance mapping to the ECU. My son bought a Blacktop Edition R/T with the STP and it puts out a few more ponies than a base R/T and has more than enough power to get yourself into trouble. That said, he still gets between 24 and 26 MPG on the highway with it. I personally think that unless you are going to be frequenting the local drag strip on the regular, a R/T with a few extras here and there is more than adequate to scratch that leaving a light with some authority itch and put a smile on most average person's face. In sport mode the R/T is a hoot to drive, it looks great, and they all sound great from the factory so it won't disappoint when you mash on it. In my opinion if it is a daily driver go R/T, if it is a fair weather, weekend warrior, or cruise night ride then step up for the Scat Pack. If you don't plan to drive it much and don't plan on trying to race light to light swing for the fences and buy the Hellcat but in all honesty there is not a street cut tire that is going to handle that amount of power on a normal road. The Hellcat and Demon are trophy cars of for someone who is serious about going to the drag strip. Just saying.
I picked up the track pack last year , not very familiar with it . I only drive it on weekends , going on 1 year and only 3k miles on it . Got it out the show room
The Blacktop edition is just an appearance package. The stock Hemi is what's under the hood. Same horesepower as the hemi that is in a charger without the Blacktop package. What makes your son's car feel like there is more horsepower is the super track pack. It's just better gear ratio in the rear end that gives better performance off the line.
I just bought a DD R/T and I like the idea of the small incremental upgrades. Rather than tying up the bulk of my fun money in the loan payment and insurance I can buy some bolt-ons every few months and enjoy the new feel of each upgrade. Each time you pickup 20-30 HP it feels like a brand new car. I know this is not a direct comparison being an SUV but we’re having the same conversations in the Durango R/T & SRT FB groups. Honestly I’m not necessarily shooting for SRT or Hellcat numbers, I just like tuning aspects of owning a MOPAR vehicle. Full disclosure I was an aircraft mechanic for 20+ years so I can do most of the work that would intimidate a lot of people. I doubt that I will go as far as forced induction but who knows what’ll happen when I finally hit the limit of NA upgrades. For now I’m just enjoying the journey. Great video!😊
Great video ! Got my fully loaded 2016 RT during the pandemic in June of 2020 for 28k ! Feel so lucky cause it only had 25k miles and already had headers and a air intake so I feel very blessed 🙏🏾
I went from a V6 challenger to a scat and the torque was the biggest difference (and the sound). I was actually looking at R/Ts first, but I came across a deal that was too good to pass up with the scat.
How much did u put down on ur scat? Im looking for a scat/ daytona392 charger but im curious how many miles u think i should be looking at and etc if im trying to put down $5k and what credit score minimum do u need? @civatateo4222
@@N54.kevdog I used my sxt challenger for the down payment (it was paid off) and they gave me 18k for it. My credit score was about a 741, and I only pay about 4 hundred a month. You could get by with a lower number, but the interest will be a bit higher. Just do your research, and look at everything during the test drive.
Glad to see how well informed you are especially talking about the r/t not having limited slip definitely imo a reason you don’t see them wreck as much and guys who have a 6 speed r/t like you did generally have a little more smarts when it comes to driving
Appreciate that! Yeah a lot of them can’t do a proper doughnut. When I had my RT, I really had to dump the clutch hard in some cases to break it loose. I got really comfortable and use to that car.
@@RUBIX3 that’s weird. I have 275’s on hellcat reps on my 16 rt 6 speed and I never dump clutch. Just roll into it and it burns all day. But then again I’m modded and tuned. 🥂
You went through EVERY point in the book so well. Heavily underrated video. Good info to all the young people trying to get these type of cars. Knowledge is power
Another point to rather to get the scat pack or RT is if you just want a challenger or charger with a nice v8 sound just get an RT, replace your mid mufflers with straight pipe call it a day, if you wanna race get a scat
personally, my dad and I each have R/T's simply because they are easier to maintain, repairs are cheaper, fuel is cheaper, they're lots of fun, sound great and obviously look great so for us that works best. a scat pack or a hellcat would be awesome but they are a lot more high maintenance and they come at a heftier price, so its up to how much someones willing to spend
Alot of people, myself included, DO NOT like the idea of opening up/modifying a perfectly fine running engine. If that's the case for you, but want as much HP as you can , SCAT ALL DAY LONG.
There's a few great points made in this video. I've owned a fully loaded 2016 5.7 Shaker M6, and loved cruising in it. It sounded great, but power was low. The 1/4 mile was about 13 seconds, and I could get around 28-30 MPG on the highway. I wanted a little more power, and started looking at Scats during the pandemic. Inventory was low, and couldn't find what I wanted. A Scat pack shaker in M6 in blue or sinimon stick. Looked for months and only found 2 in the country that matched up. One in VA and the other in PA about an hour from me in Ohio. I ended up buying a Jeep Gladiator at the time, because it fit a need. About 3 months later a 2021 SP 1320 showed on a truck at the local dealership. I ended up buying that car, and trading the wife's 2017 Charger SXT +. There are differences in every generation of mopar muscle. From sounds to performance. It really comes down to what you like, what you plan on doing with it, and your driving style. The RT is a nice starter Hemi, and some people like it. Others like myself, like not having to put $$$$ to get the same performance the Scat put down. Remember, a tuned 6.4 will always be faster than a 5.7 that's modified. Unless you heavily mod the 5.7 to beat a stock 6.4.. that's able to be done, but seems like you're throwing away money honestly. But like I said, it's what you like or prefer.. too each their own..
The only real problem I saw was the price comparison, I have a 15 challenger hellcat manual, the only option it doesn't have is a sunroof, it was right around 70k brand new, the same car today is over 100k thats more like 3 rts for the price of one hellcat. I also owned a rt custom and currently have a rt magnum. It's my firm opinion that no one should buy a rear wheel drive car w over 400 hp unless they are extremely comfortable w the back wheels spinning. You were correct, in stock form, neither the 5.7 or the 6.4 like boost at all. If you are planning on horsepower mods either a new car or a warranty need to go out the window, unless you get the direct connection parts almost anything you add will void your warranty. Also something no one ever addresses, the hellcat will actually get you the most power at the cheapest price, even if you plan on mods. A hellcat w cat back, cold air, and a tune will put you in the 8s at the crank 7s at the wheel. All under warranty, the intake and exhaust aren't covered by the warranty and therefore can't be voided, the tune, they can't tell if it's got a tune in it or not.
The prices I used were the current msrp before options (since that can vary). In 2015, prices were much better, but everything has went up now…not to mention the dealerships adding mark ups. I definitely agree the hellcat is the best engine to build on for sure.
I’m more of a motorcycle person but purchased a 2019 RT challenger. I love the widebody scat but couldn’t pass up the deal I got especially with the trade in on my v6 camaro that I had at the time. The 5.7 does everything I want it to and with some exhaust mods she sounds amazing. She’s also my daily driver as well. I think for most people the 5.7 is perfect since the price point is much lower than the scat but if you have money for the 6.4 and want that boost in power why not. That wide body is 🤤
Another well done video. You provided insight and specific data to make an informed decision. I'd say the 5.7 is the best option for a new buyer, looking for a Mopar muscle car.
The price difference is nowhere near that these days. Everyone I worried about gas mileage so the market is flooded with 6.4s. The 6.4 is too heavy to win races, but the rt is a great daily. Ran an rt against a scar pack (In Mexico allegedly) and from 40 to 120 he put 1.25 cars on me. Allegedly. It was a dream, it didn’t happen in real life.
I have beat a track hawk from a full stop a trex, tesla suv,and an ss malibu on the freeway and a few audis 5s. I have it stock, skats are the way to go
I would say the most annoying thing about having a scat pack is that I cannot drive anywhere without someone trying to race me, rev their engine or roll down their window to try and talk to me. Out of the year I've had it, I think I've had maybe 5 days going to and from work where nobody bothered me.
R/T package is a good buy for many reasons. Especially since they are not theft magnets. Just like not everyone needs a Hellcat, the same can go for the Scat.
True, but the constant maintenance/upkeep on a boosted car is intense. That's why I'm trading my in. Not to say it's not a great idea cause that's the same idea I had when buying, but at the end of the day, all that upkeep and maintenance was becoming a money pit.
I drive a 2021 RT Charger, same color as yours, and I love it! I know a lot of people can’t tell the difference in exhaust notes between the RT and the Scat, I can, the RT has a deeper more growly sound to it, the Scat sounds slightly higher pitched and more purr than growl. I prefer the RT’s exhaust note, I plan on getting a new exhaust system than makes it even deeper and growly, like a dragon lol. Great vid man, I’m happy I went with the RT! That RT badge has a legacy behind it!!
Nice! I had an RT as well before this. Definitely a different sound. I know my RT had an H pipe exhaust while my scat has an X pipe. That RT name is legendary for sure!
I got in a 19 scat for 37k in 2021 and feel lucky cause at one point new charger gts were going for that price. The difference between my 15 sxt has made it worth it.
@@Jay-tl9yr i have an rt and i would say there’s definitely faster cars but the rt is still pretty fast i would say go for it just make sure u take care of the car right regardless of your choice good luck 👍
@@Jay-tl9yrif u realy want speed rt isn’t it I would go w the scat instead throw some headers upgrade intake get a tank of nos get it tuned for ethanol put some slicks on the back n u got yaself a stock hellcat killer lol that’s exactly what my buddy did and he’s spanking hellcats left and right helps that he’s a monster of the light tho lol very fun car tho and very fast
Bro the carlock ad is a lifesaver, I heard so much about these type of vehicles being targets and it's sooooo simple for them to steal it I don't even know why every car doesn't have one
Ive been looking at the scat pack and hellcat over the last couple months. On average for the widebody scat packs compared to the widebody hellcats Ive only noticed a price difference of about 10-20k which isnt too big of a gap considering what you get comparatively. Even the dealerships now are trying to mark up the heck out of the RT's Ive seen most of the RTs around me going for 43-48k and the regular scatpacks starting around 52k. The market is crazy right now but if you can find an honest dealership you can probably walk away with a widebody scat for 62ish or even a hellcat for around 77.
I’ve seen WBSP at $63k and I believe that’s absolutely insane considering MSRP for Non-WBHC use to be at $61k… I wanted to get a Hellcat but I can’t really justify paying the crappy markups and overall inflation in price. In 2020 I was going to get a brand new Scatpack at $38k, but backed out of it because of the shit APR rate at 18.6% lol (was going to be my first loan and first car under my name. So having no history at 22 years old messed up my opportunity) but I’ll just wait and see what happens to the prices towards the end of the year and determine if I should keep my R/T, Sell it, or trade it in for an upgrade
@@Wessso_ I’d probably wait until about June then find a dealer around you that can order you one that you want if they have the allotment for it. Right now I’m stuck on either ordering a new widebody hellcat charger or trying to find a hellcat durango.
@@Boosted_aj in theory yeah but as they became more popular they knew they could charge more. When they first came out they were mid 60s but dealers always marked up em up by like 10-20k. Near me I found a 2016 used hellcat with only 4700 miles on it. I might go take a peek at it.
Wow. You have so many things to consider. I appreciate your guidance on this matter. Bottom line, if you want power take time to learn your car and if need be take classes.
I've drove GT, RT, Scat, And hellcat. I'll save the GT for last since most of us say to hell with a V6 in a boat. RT I had for 2 years and it was so fuckin fun and fun to mod as well, plenty of power with rails to keep you from wrecking and great for learning the big V8s and it was amazing on gas mileage if I hit it alot if refill at 300 miles or if I cruised around I'd get 24+ so 400-500 miles I got in a tank once and getting up to speed took almost nothing and it sounded amazing. The scats. I've drove 3 and it was actually the first one I drove, I didn't like it cause it had too much power for me at first and so I went to buy my RT. Second scat was 1 1/2 years later test drove it 4 times and loved it, all but the exhaust it was quieter (RT and scat had stock) and it's 0-60 wasn't a big difference atleast not to add on 25k onto what I was already paying just to own a scat that wasn't much different, though it did have more torque and it threw me back and was fun but it wasn't enough, third scat, used 40k only adding 10k to what I had owed it was mid muffler delete and idk I didn't like the sound much and it wheel hopped like crazy (this one had 245s) and the speakers were worn to hell because at 20 it sounded like my RTs at 8 so I turnt it down and stopped looking for 6 months. Overall I don't like the scat (for myself) I'd rather go for the RT if I'm going NA, (but to add to what you said RTs can handle 9lbs boost pushing the safe limit but most only run 7-8 without getting low end) and scats can only push 3 safely, 5-6 is if you tap the throttle a lil too hard you're going boom. Anyone you know running that without forged internals is running a timebomb. Now onto the hellcat I currently own I got it 3 months ago at 2017 53k and 33k miles (lots of miles sure but it's in great condition) and I have fell in love with it. My insurance went from 200(3 vehicles) to 330 (also 3) and the power is crazy, I ran it in eco mode for the first 2 weeks until I learned the power and now I drive in full 700 all the time and as long as I'm not playing it gets a great(for the engine size) 19-22 mpg and if I play I get 15-17 and definitely find myself at the gas station a lil more often. But the fun is immense. If you have an RT I'd just go for a used hellcat if you can handle the power, don't wreck it for the rest of us please. The RT and Scat difference is so little in actual street practice that you might as well get the one with great gas mileage and pretty solid HP but if you're looking for a track car get the scat and forge internals and run a supercharger. Easily makes 900+ I've heard some boosting theirs with 11 and making 1200hp. Now the GT ( I know who cares right) this was the second challenger I've driven and it was fun and punchy but it got TERRIBLE GAS mileage because it takes so much to get it up to speed and unless you're driving it like a civic you're pissing gas out. Overall wouldn't have been happy if I settled for that instead of going for the RT which I recommend anyone get the RT (though remember they're not made to be beaten on 24/7 like the scat and cat) you may want to build the engine up a bit if you plan on slamming the gas light to light all day (that's where people blow the 5.7s so easily) remember everyone watch your oil temps! Don't hammer it if it's over 230 it's not worth it!
I said the same thing not a huge difference in the street between the RT and the SCAT .. the scat will start pulling away after 100 miles per hour.. I drove both
@@Muchacho77 yeah I noticed anything over 80 was much faster with the scats but like I said in street practice the RT is overall the better choice cause let's be real, most of us aren't going over 80 in day to day travel unless you ride the interstate to work. Scats are cool but for the gas mileage and performance difference I think the 5.7 would do just fine especially with the prices now, 19+ scats are more than used 2017-18 cats (we don't talk about the 2015-2016 problem years with the cats)
Not that was a great comment enjoyed reading all that good info. Thanks for saying not much street power difference RT to scat. I will continue to enjoy my 5.7 super charged police package Charger
@@carlosmark9840 Hell with a SC on a 5.7 you should already be making atleast 500whp and with the police package if you have AWD then you definitely eat scats already and not far from competing with base cats, if you do have AWD I imagine your charger is a monster
So do you think it’s worth trading my rt for a scatpack.? I mean don’t race or don’t really have to much experience with muscle cars I guess it’s the fact of just saying I have a scat? But from you knowing and driving most trims it’s not worth it.!?
NGL I almost pulled the trigger on a scat pack. What kept me from the decision was the fact that my car is just about paid off. Not trying to finance another car. No note is great! 🙏🏾 I have a r/t plus
I've owned the r/t and currently own a 23 scat pack. You are right on with all those points. 392 is a nice car but the 5.7 sounds really good with a mid muffler delete. + better fuel and insurance just sayn. Nothing wrong with that 5.7 imo... nice video thanx
@@user-ex9zm7bg3x Nope, not at all, just the overall look sells it to me, sure a big monsterous V8 would make the car more fun but, i hardly like going fast in my 400hp Accord.
I daily my R/T and don't race people. The mid grade gas is why I chose the R/T since I just wanted a quick car that sounds cool and is comfortable enough to daily.
Good insight. I think low miles used RT is way to go if you want the 5.7. New RTs are now over 40K and you can jump to a competitor like 'Stang or LT1 Camaro and get Scat Pack levels of power/acceleration for price of a RT. If you need the extra space in back, Scat is the way to go for sure!
@@josecalderon4048 How are the older 392 SRTs different than today's scat? I know the scat has some suspension, brake, and wheel/tire upgrades. Is the 392 still the same engine or little less power in those 11-14' years?
I had a 2008 Charger V6 2.7L which I use to love and even when I went homeless I use to sleep in it last year I bought a Hellcat redeye widebody so to go from a 2.7L to a 6.2 supercharged is insane, oh and I bought it cash too no car note, if I can do it you can do it too. 💪
my insurance rates quotes were wildly different To insure a scatpack or hellcat, I checked because I wanted to know how different it'd be. To insure a hellcat for me would be like 479$ a month or something similar. Scatpack was 439$ a month for me. For an RT? 151$. Yeah they look at it completely different. My Infiniti G37 now, which arguably performs somewhere between an RT and a Scatpack, costs me 100$ a month to insure.
@@RUBIX3 I got one speeding ticket and one parking violation on my license but that was when I first got my license so I was double points It's like 10 points rn from that
@@JVeleta11 I would like to but I have a family and I love to enjoy the whip so can’t really fit the fam in one would be nice but I mean don’t really race or mess around like that plus at the moment I’m balling on a budget so I think a 6.4 would be outta my league would be nice but I mean I still got that HEMI and sounds great and is fast than most cars on the street
I agree my friend. These are NOT MPG friendly cars. Daily is incredible w an E85 flex setup. About $3k total cost including tune. The Scat is a Punisher all day and fun to play. Almost same fuel economy vs HC. 5.7 RTs way better MPG and Plenty healthy
When I ordered a scat pack a few months back I canceled and ordered a hellcat instead. I new I'd be regretting it if I hadn't. I'd say, if anything, move up a notch rather than down or you'll regret it later. I've got a 2022 hellcat charger and am looking at going with an e85 package and adding close to 300whp to it. You can never have too much power.
@@thatv8life186 I raced a trackhawk and was completely blown away. I found out later that thing was not stock. Had 1,300whp. Have had a few other close races. It's usable. Just gotta find the right times and places.
I’m grateful that I got a boomer cruiser 22K mileage scat Widebody, all premium options added on. For 37K Has a aftermarket exhaust, 5 inch tips, mid muffler delete, brand new tires, satin hood, sunroof, if I didn’t find this, I woulda got a RT, never saw myself owing a 6.4 within 5 years
My first Chalkenger was a 5.7, my newer one us a 6.4 Shaker. They are both excellent cars, but the 6.4 specially with the shaker is noticeable more power and torque. The stock aur intake in the Shaker in my Challenger 50 is off the hook !
Hold that thought brother before you go ahead with that purchase. I just recently learned that if you want to make good power on the cheap with a scat it’s much easier now with the 6.4 block 18 and newer have hellcat BGE blocks. This means if you build it you now have a forged cammed hellcat block capable of some extreme power numbers, much more so than any stock internal hellcat. Although if your trying to go cheap a 5.7 will do fine. But they run their problems as well like mds, valve seats in the head dropping, in sufficient oil pump, exhaust leaks from crap manifolds ect.
@@Lauria43 No 6.4 comes in trucks, challengers, chargers, jeep, and Durango. Google it. 18 and up 6.4 block are upgraded to hellcat blocks just needing internals,heads, cam, and some boost to make more power than an unbuilt hellcat fbo. I own a hellcat, have since 16. 18 is when all the best updates for these platforms were given even to the hellcats which trickled down to the 392.
I have the opportunity to get a Hellcat but the insurance is NO joke. Already had a Scat Pack but also looking at a Mopar Edition Challenger! She could win me back.
Great video bro ! I have a ‘21 RT challenger, I’m really considering jumping to the 392. I haven’t driven one yet so I’m curious how much of a difference the feeling is . The RT seems plenty fast but idk lol. One thing to note is the challengers are cheaper than the chargers but I love the wide body charger look. What to do ? Lol 😩
People are confused here, R/T is a trim level having nothing to do with what engine you order. The R/T has, among other things, wider tires Bilstiein shocks lowered ride height etc. It is set up from factory to corner after all R/T is "Road and Track". My R/T was ordered with the ScatPack Shaker group as well. It is a manual trans that makes me grin all the time ;
I think a bigger question that nobody mentions is what are your plans with the car? For me the R/T is the best because I’m going to replace the brakes, transmission, diff, engine and just about everything else. So it makes 0 sense to spend the extra $$$ if I’m just replacing everything anyway
You are absolutely correct that the Scat Pack is quick to break traction. You can be doing 30 MPH and bust the tires loose with no problem without even intending to do it. (I did it twice last week) It's a lot of car and demands respect.
I hate when people say scat all day why u have a RT.Maybe we can't afford a scat, payments, insurance,gas or most importantly maybe we don't want our car stolen the same day we get it,there are plenty of reasons why.But people are ignorant as hell....it's to be expected.I love my RT and always will,the deal was way to good to pass it up.In the future for sure I will get a scat but for now I'm enjoying the hell out if my RT 🔥💪
@@RUBIX3 it depends on how much u pay for your rt…a show Ik buys the kit …applied the paint…and kit on a 5.7 for 5,500 to add wheels/rims that’s only 1,100-1,600 depending on which widebody tires/rims u want
@@RUBIX3 Yeah it would be the price of a narrow body scat, but I wasn't looking for the power but the look and upgraded driving components. 5.7 can also handle more power if I wished to mod in the future but I do love my scat for it being stock
I wanna know what should my credit be & what should my down payment range be. I wanna know if awd is better or rwd, is it best to get a gt or an rt if price isn’t an option. Things to lookout for when talking to dealerships so they don’t screw you over, what should the mileage be when I first get it, what kinds of dealerships are good, what’s the best insurance, are the good for traveling, how to help with security of your car as far as theft like he was saying, I wanna know everything to be prepared!
you should mention general maintenance on the scats are 2x to 3x more brembo brakes are stupidly expensive yes there are ways around it like using off brand break pads and doing your own oil changes my rt was maybe 80 bucks for a oil change my scat is setting around 120
Excellent video man. I just bought the 2023 R T last call in July and wish I would have got the scat pack, but can't do nothing about it now, I wish I would have seen this video before I bought it, definitely would have bought the scat ✌
I don't get it, I've driven a scatpack 3 times in sport and track mode and was not impressed at all so bought a new 5.7. I've seen multiple rt people beat scat's with just a few additions to the engines as well so it sold me with overall value for a daily driver. As far as building an engine I've seen rt's and hellcats as better options also. My gf even drove my car for 5 months and laughed on how slow the scat was... however my first car was a 5.0 foxbody mustang so I could care less about scats lol.
I picked up a used 2012 pursuit, or as I consider it, a debadged R/T with some added police goodies like stiffer suspension, bigger brakes, limited slip, etc. Best part, I got it for less than 7k, so I can definitely make it faster than a scat for cheaper than a scat lmao
Great content! I started with a 5.7 Shaker Challenger for years, then I took B Mason's advice and traded for a new Scat Pack Challenger with the HP 70 Auto Tranny. You are correct, way less money difference to just get a Scat then modding with bolt ons with the 5.7.
Buy the Scatpack. You'll regret not having the extra power. The 392 is the sweet spot as far as HP. It's enough to light up the tires but not too much like the Hellcat. You can launch a Scatpack without spinning tires for 200 feet.
I own four Dodge Chargers 2006 2014 2015 and now my 2020. The two hemi was all right cuz I just like Dodge. But there was nothing like the bank for the buck for the 2015 Scat Pack and now that I have a 20/20 Scat Pack. Car is a good investment. Take care of and don't drive it a lot it'll be worth money one day.
I encourage whoever read this to search up “SMS 570 Challenger” made by Saleen. This is back in like 2012/13 or so. 570 had 500HP & 570X had 700! THE ORIGINAL HELLCAT! It even had a functional butterfly hood 🙌🏼
I’m happy w ma 22 charger R/T payments are $680 +140. And I spent more money on gas then my car payment and insurance. Scat packs are known to be on Eco mode on a daily basis should’ve went with a Honda.
I’m js if you got a 5.7 and want a solid ass deal 3,500 dollars for a front mount turbo setup with everything you need, my buddy builds them and his challenger makes over 550 to the wheels. He’s been running that setup for over a year and had 0 issues. Simple setup. If you’re under warranty, it’s simple enough that you can quickly uninstall everything and make it stock again. If you have questions he will respond to you immediately! This is his business!
My 2023 Scat was 78k it's a wide body. 2023 RT 5.7 was 51 out the door. That's a 26k difference lol The 2023 Jailbreak hellcat was 101 out the door. So it's 25k difference in them.
Fun fact, a base model RT and base model Scat have the same 0-60….that being said I wouldn’t bother with a scat without the dynamics package which puts you in the mid 50s right off the bat. Of course scat has more top end but the RT is also severely restricted up top thanks to crappy intake manifold and log style headers(scat has shorties and better flowing intake), the ram 5.7 has 30hp more with just a different intake manifold and presumably slightly different tuning. Another point if you just want the scat sound, put a scat pack exhaust on a 5.7 sounds the same as a scat just faster idle. And one more, the fastest Mopar drag package is a 5.7, if I remember right it’s like high 7’s in the 1/4 and not quite base hellcat power. Gutted I’m sure tho but still.
@@captainamericaandcaptainma3337 overall the RT is cheaper, the mods to make a scat and RT even used to even out the cost but not sure that’s the case anymore given how expensive scats have gotten. Plus insurance is like half the cost on an RT And the RT is a good 300-350lbs lighter
Just got a used R/T due to the mileage and price it’s an 18 but it only had 28 thousand miles on it had one previous owner picked it up for 27k and I’m satisfied with it for those exact reasons
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Hes being sarcastic lol pretty much saying all 3 look the same 1😂
@@TrustNRussYEP I OWN ONE ☝🏽 THEY ARE LEMONS 🍋 AND EASY TO STEAL 🫵🏽
You start off wrong you blocking that beautiful scat pack......get the fuck out the way cuz
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Stay the Course and do not get distracted the Lord is with you and endure with Him to the end , He Loves you so much give HIM praise!!
Amen brudda man
If you have a scatpack or hell cat and you don't want it to get stolen, put a GT emblem on it and get rid of the scat and cat emblem
Still can’t hide that sound.
Can’t hide the brakes
Sleeper lol
Shiddd in some places they stealing v6 as well
GT Widebody
I’ve had my RT since 2019. Love it everyday and it never gets old. Get compliments everyday on it. Started at 23 miles just hit 70k miles this New year. No problem with it at all.
Right on 💪🏾💪🏾
Cheap car
Are you homeless
@@rjackstheartofwealth6152 Yep Homeless homeless 😏😏😏
@@rjackstheartofwealth6152no car, you live with your parents?
@@Darealistbruh5 kills me that people don’t understand that the r/t is what started this american muscle era. the first “muscle” car was a chrysler lmfao
Just got me a 2021 dodge charger R/T like 4 months ago. Of course i would love more speed and power and a demonnnnn but i am so happy with my R/T. Its my first V8. I had a kia soul before this so 😂 i got that sinamon stick too! Im happy and blessed to even be in a mopar! Thank you God! And thank u for all this info!
I had 4 bangers before I had my rt I love it 😂
Bro the right attitude im workin on a dp and credit score for mines god willing in the future.
I recently got a R/T charger. The scat and hellcat are great (wish I could afford one lol) but here the mark ups are just insane. Funny enough however, the R/T trims don’t have much if any mark up at all. There is almost a 12K difference between the R/T and Scat. The R/T is my daily driver, it’s actually very good on gas. Very comfortable and sounds great. I’m not a great driver or pro with muscle cars, so a fast but controllable car is more ideal for me lol. Nice video 👍
Does it feel really fast ? And does it accelerate quickly
@@urfathercookin still jumps off the line and is neck and neck with a scat until 70-80 mph when racing off a dig and then the extra 115 hp kicks in. 18+ R/T’s are the way to go with the super track pak
I feel that but 12 mpg is still bad I got a 2021 rt and I average around 12 to 14 mpg
@@coldesthemi I’m so on the fence about the scat and the rt
I would buy the R/T and supercharge it. That’s a better way to spend that 12k difference.
Here is another thing to consider if you are looking for performance on a budget; you can get an R/T with the super track pack which gives you the LS rear differential, all the infotainment goodies that allow you to monitor track day data, it comes with wider rims and tires, better braking system, cold air intake, paddle shifters in the automatic, larger sway bars, Bilstein performance shocks that lower the ride height, and best of all a different performance mapping to the ECU.
My son bought a Blacktop Edition R/T with the STP and it puts out a few more ponies than a base R/T and has more than enough power to get yourself into trouble. That said, he still gets between 24 and 26 MPG on the highway with it.
I personally think that unless you are going to be frequenting the local drag strip on the regular, a R/T with a few extras here and there is more than adequate to scratch that leaving a light with some authority itch and put a smile on most average person's face. In sport mode the R/T is a hoot to drive, it looks great, and they all sound great from the factory so it won't disappoint when you mash on it. In my opinion if it is a daily driver go R/T, if it is a fair weather, weekend warrior, or cruise night ride then step up for the Scat Pack. If you don't plan to drive it much and don't plan on trying to race light to light swing for the fences and buy the Hellcat but in all honesty there is not a street cut tire that is going to handle that amount of power on a normal road. The Hellcat and Demon are trophy cars of for someone who is serious about going to the drag strip. Just saying.
Very good points!!
I picked up the track pack last year , not very familiar with it . I only drive it on weekends , going on 1 year and only 3k miles on it . Got it out the show room
The Blacktop edition is just an appearance package. The stock Hemi is what's under the hood. Same horesepower as the hemi that is in a charger without the Blacktop package. What makes your son's car feel like there is more horsepower is the super track pack. It's just better gear ratio in the rear end that gives better performance off the line.
For the price of the extra pack just buy a scat
Watching this video helped me decide which one to go with R/t or Scat. I wanted a Scat but I settled for an R/T 2023. I will work my way up. No rush!
For the money bro always build up the cheaper model ...
Actually, there is a rush. They don't make them anymore :(
I just bought a DD R/T and I like the idea of the small incremental upgrades. Rather than tying up the bulk of my fun money in the loan payment and insurance I can buy some bolt-ons every few months and enjoy the new feel of each upgrade. Each time you pickup 20-30 HP it feels like a brand new car. I know this is not a direct comparison being an SUV but we’re having the same conversations in the Durango R/T & SRT FB groups. Honestly I’m not necessarily shooting for SRT or Hellcat numbers, I just like tuning aspects of owning a MOPAR vehicle. Full disclosure I was an aircraft mechanic for 20+ years so I can do most of the work that would intimidate a lot of people. I doubt that I will go as far as forced induction but who knows what’ll happen when I finally hit the limit of NA upgrades. For now I’m just enjoying the journey. Great video!😊
Great take.
Great video ! Got my fully loaded 2016 RT during the pandemic in June of 2020 for 28k ! Feel so lucky cause it only had 25k miles and already had headers and a air intake so I feel very blessed 🙏🏾
Nice!!
Blessed for sure
I went from a V6 challenger to a scat and the torque was the biggest difference (and the sound). I was actually looking at R/Ts first, but I came across a deal that was too good to pass up with the scat.
Likewise and I don’t regret it.
Hopefully I’m next🙏
How much did u put down on ur scat? Im looking for a scat/ daytona392 charger but im curious how many miles u think i should be looking at and etc if im trying to put down $5k and what credit score minimum do u need? @civatateo4222
@@N54.kevdog I used my sxt challenger for the down payment (it was paid off) and they gave me 18k for it. My credit score was about a 741, and I only pay about 4 hundred a month. You could get by with a lower number, but the interest will be a bit higher. Just do your research, and look at everything during the test drive.
Lol tell me youre not building it but bought it without tellimg me 💀 my built RT smokes scats daily ..
Glad to see how well informed you are especially talking about the r/t not having limited slip definitely imo a reason you don’t see them wreck as much and guys who have a 6 speed r/t like you did generally have a little more smarts when it comes to driving
My Ft has limited slip, it was an option as well as brembos
Appreciate that! Yeah a lot of them can’t do a proper doughnut. When I had my RT, I really had to dump the clutch hard in some cases to break it loose. I got really comfortable and use to that car.
@@RUBIX3 that’s weird. I have 275’s on hellcat reps on my 16 rt 6 speed and I never dump clutch. Just roll into it and it burns all day. But then again I’m modded and tuned. 🥂
You went through EVERY point in the book so well. Heavily underrated video. Good info to all the young people trying to get these type of cars. Knowledge is power
Thank you!!! 🙏🏾🙏🏾
Another point to rather to get the scat pack or RT is if you just want a challenger or charger with a nice v8 sound just get an RT, replace your mid mufflers with straight pipe call it a day, if you wanna race get a scat
Very valid point!
personally, my dad and I each have R/T's simply because they are easier to maintain, repairs are cheaper, fuel is cheaper, they're lots of fun, sound great and obviously look great so for us that works best. a scat pack or a hellcat would be awesome but they are a lot more high maintenance and they come at a heftier price, so its up to how much someones willing to spend
100% true!
Does anyone know if we can still order the R/T through a dealer, or is that last call event preventing any normal orders?
Alot of people, myself included, DO NOT like the idea of opening up/modifying a perfectly fine running engine. If that's the case for you, but want as much HP as you can , SCAT ALL DAY LONG.
Shit tuners been doing this for years y'all scary
@@NumbaOne people wanna keep that warranty on Thier $50k+ car.
@@jeffreynye3019 that's understandable, used would be the best option then and cheaper.
More power…more problems. If you are going to mod it heavy, definitely go the cheaper route with the car
There's a few great points made in this video. I've owned a fully loaded 2016 5.7 Shaker M6, and loved cruising in it. It sounded great, but power was low. The 1/4 mile was about 13 seconds, and I could get around 28-30 MPG on the highway.
I wanted a little more power, and started looking at Scats during the pandemic. Inventory was low, and couldn't find what I wanted. A Scat pack shaker in M6 in blue or sinimon stick. Looked for months and only found 2 in the country that matched up. One in VA and the other in PA about an hour from me in Ohio.
I ended up buying a Jeep Gladiator at the time, because it fit a need.
About 3 months later a 2021 SP 1320 showed on a truck at the local dealership. I ended up buying that car, and trading the wife's 2017 Charger SXT +. There are differences in every generation of mopar muscle. From sounds to performance. It really comes down to what you like, what you plan on doing with it, and your driving style.
The RT is a nice starter Hemi, and some people like it. Others like myself, like not having to put $$$$ to get the same performance the Scat put down. Remember, a tuned 6.4 will always be faster than a 5.7 that's modified. Unless you heavily mod the 5.7 to beat a stock 6.4.. that's able to be done, but seems like you're throwing away money honestly.
But like I said, it's what you like or prefer.. too each their own..
Well said!
It’s a fun build tho . Very much pricey
The only real problem I saw was the price comparison, I have a 15 challenger hellcat manual, the only option it doesn't have is a sunroof, it was right around 70k brand new, the same car today is over 100k thats more like 3 rts for the price of one hellcat. I also owned a rt custom and currently have a rt magnum. It's my firm opinion that no one should buy a rear wheel drive car w over 400 hp unless they are extremely comfortable w the back wheels spinning. You were correct, in stock form, neither the 5.7 or the 6.4 like boost at all. If you are planning on horsepower mods either a new car or a warranty need to go out the window, unless you get the direct connection parts almost anything you add will void your warranty. Also something no one ever addresses, the hellcat will actually get you the most power at the cheapest price, even if you plan on mods. A hellcat w cat back, cold air, and a tune will put you in the 8s at the crank 7s at the wheel. All under warranty, the intake and exhaust aren't covered by the warranty and therefore can't be voided, the tune, they can't tell if it's got a tune in it or not.
The prices I used were the current msrp before options (since that can vary). In 2015, prices were much better, but everything has went up now…not to mention the dealerships adding mark ups. I definitely agree the hellcat is the best engine to build on for sure.
I purchased a scat pack in 2013 and had my license suspended in 2 days driving through Tennessee on my way to Georgia, That car was fast.
any mods ?
@@tre_4
No
I’m more of a motorcycle person but purchased a 2019 RT challenger. I love the widebody scat but couldn’t pass up the deal I got especially with the trade in on my v6 camaro that I had at the time. The 5.7 does everything I want it to and with some exhaust mods she sounds amazing. She’s also my daily driver as well. I think for most people the 5.7 is perfect since the price point is much lower than the scat but if you have money for the 6.4 and want that boost in power why not. That wide body is 🤤
Very true 💪🏾💪🏾
Another well done video. You provided insight and specific data to make an informed decision. I'd say the 5.7 is the best option for a new buyer, looking for a Mopar muscle car.
Appreciate that! I definitely enjoyed my 5.7 when I had it
This is one of the best explanations between the two trim levels I've heard in a long time.
Appreciate that!
The price difference is nowhere near that these days. Everyone I worried about gas mileage so the market is flooded with 6.4s. The 6.4 is too heavy to win races, but the rt is a great daily. Ran an rt against a scar pack
(In Mexico allegedly) and from 40 to 120 he put 1.25 cars on me. Allegedly. It was a dream, it didn’t happen in real life.
I have beat a track hawk from a full stop a trex, tesla suv,and an ss malibu on the freeway and a few audis 5s. I have it stock, skats are the way to go
I agree bro not everyone needs a scat pack and the RT is way better handling boost for sure
For sure 💯💯
I would say the most annoying thing about having a scat pack is that I cannot drive anywhere without someone trying to race me, rev their engine or roll down their window to try and talk to me. Out of the year I've had it, I think I've had maybe 5 days going to and from work where nobody bothered me.
R/T package is a good buy for many reasons. Especially since they are not theft magnets. Just like not everyone needs a Hellcat, the same can go for the Scat.
Dodge never been my kind they kinda ugly but I haven’t had a V8 so been thinking bout a scat
Very true!
Just went from a SXT+ 2018 challenger to a 2023 challenger RT with 19 miles days ago… I love it.
True, but the constant maintenance/upkeep on a boosted car is intense. That's why I'm trading my in. Not to say it's not a great idea cause that's the same idea I had when buying, but at the end of the day, all that upkeep and maintenance was becoming a money pit.
That’s what a lot of people don’t mention, the cost to maintain a boosted car.
I love my '21 scat pack used with 16k miles for 42k. I opened it up just a tad about 30min ago and it still has a smile on my face.
I drive a 2021 RT Charger, same color as yours, and I love it! I know a lot of people can’t tell the difference in exhaust notes between the RT and the Scat, I can, the RT has a deeper more growly sound to it, the Scat sounds slightly higher pitched and more purr than growl. I prefer the RT’s exhaust note, I plan on getting a new exhaust system than makes it even deeper and growly, like a dragon lol. Great vid man, I’m happy I went with the RT! That RT badge has a legacy behind it!!
Nice! I had an RT as well before this. Definitely a different sound. I know my RT had an H pipe exhaust while my scat has an X pipe. That RT name is legendary for sure!
'20 RT love the sound. I'll stick with stock
Like a dragon RAWWRRRR 😌 still undecided myself 😭
I got in a 19 scat for 37k in 2021 and feel lucky cause at one point new charger gts were going for that price. The difference between my 15 sxt has made it worth it.
I went with a RT instead of a Scat Pack because the RT was in my price range. Also I can always mod my RT for more HP later on!
But is the RT fast? Im thinking about getting a scat or RT.
@@Jay-tl9yr i have an rt and i would say there’s definitely faster cars but the rt is still pretty fast i would say go for it just make sure u take care of the car right regardless of your choice good luck 👍
@@nosmoke1688 for sure 💯 Thanks G.
@@Jay-tl9yrif u realy want speed rt isn’t it I would go w the scat instead throw some headers upgrade intake get a tank of nos get it tuned for ethanol put some slicks on the back n u got yaself a stock hellcat killer lol that’s exactly what my buddy did and he’s spanking hellcats left and right helps that he’s a monster of the light tho lol very fun car tho and very fast
@@aceartdepot6198since you wanna mod it. Go against a hellcat mod. That scat would get smoked
Bro the carlock ad is a lifesaver, I heard so much about these type of vehicles being targets and it's sooooo simple for them to steal it I don't even know why every car doesn't have one
Ive been looking at the scat pack and hellcat over the last couple months. On average for the widebody scat packs compared to the widebody hellcats Ive only noticed a price difference of about 10-20k which isnt too big of a gap considering what you get comparatively. Even the dealerships now are trying to mark up the heck out of the RT's Ive seen most of the RTs around me going for 43-48k and the regular scatpacks starting around 52k. The market is crazy right now but if you can find an honest dealership you can probably walk away with a widebody scat for 62ish or even a hellcat for around 77.
I’ve seen WBSP at $63k and I believe that’s absolutely insane considering MSRP for Non-WBHC use to be at $61k… I wanted to get a Hellcat but I can’t really justify paying the crappy markups and overall inflation in price. In 2020 I was going to get a brand new Scatpack at $38k, but backed out of it because of the shit APR rate at 18.6% lol (was going to be my first loan and first car under my name. So having no history at 22 years old messed up my opportunity) but I’ll just wait and see what happens to the prices towards the end of the year and determine if I should keep my R/T, Sell it, or trade it in for an upgrade
@@Wessso_ I’d probably wait until about June then find a dealer around you that can order you one that you want if they have the allotment for it. Right now I’m stuck on either ordering a new widebody hellcat charger or trying to find a hellcat durango.
Hellcats should not be more than 60k without the wide body base level
@@Boosted_aj in theory yeah but as they became more popular they knew they could charge more. When they first came out they were mid 60s but dealers always marked up em up by like 10-20k. Near me I found a 2016 used hellcat with only 4700 miles on it. I might go take a peek at it.
@@Teekiru I found a 2019 hellcat with 14k miles going for $62k and I’m tempted to take a look. Clean records and only 2 owners
Wow. You have so many things to consider. I appreciate your guidance on this matter. Bottom line, if you want power take time to learn your car and if need be take classes.
My friend has a 5.7 charger stock internals on e85 whipple with built trans and pushing demon numbers
I bought a 2008 300C 5.7 and it’s a great mopar car to get the feel. I had the mids deleted but kept the stock muffler. Sounded great.
Great video bro! Valid points! Really driver preference between 5.7 & 6.4 I know I’d have to go 6.4.
This 6.4 is fun!!
Rear Spacers would make your stance look a bit more aggressive to match the great looks of the car. I love the color and the widebody🤌🏾👌🏾💯
I planning on lowering the car. I was looking into that exact thing. Appreciate that 🙏🏾🙏🏾
I've drove GT, RT, Scat, And hellcat. I'll save the GT for last since most of us say to hell with a V6 in a boat.
RT I had for 2 years and it was so fuckin fun and fun to mod as well, plenty of power with rails to keep you from wrecking and great for learning the big V8s and it was amazing on gas mileage if I hit it alot if refill at 300 miles or if I cruised around I'd get 24+ so 400-500 miles I got in a tank once and getting up to speed took almost nothing and it sounded amazing. The scats. I've drove 3 and it was actually the first one I drove, I didn't like it cause it had too much power for me at first and so I went to buy my RT. Second scat was 1 1/2 years later test drove it 4 times and loved it, all but the exhaust it was quieter (RT and scat had stock) and it's 0-60 wasn't a big difference atleast not to add on 25k onto what I was already paying just to own a scat that wasn't much different, though it did have more torque and it threw me back and was fun but it wasn't enough, third scat, used 40k only adding 10k to what I had owed it was mid muffler delete and idk I didn't like the sound much and it wheel hopped like crazy (this one had 245s) and the speakers were worn to hell because at 20 it sounded like my RTs at 8 so I turnt it down and stopped looking for 6 months. Overall I don't like the scat (for myself) I'd rather go for the RT if I'm going NA, (but to add to what you said RTs can handle 9lbs boost pushing the safe limit but most only run 7-8 without getting low end) and scats can only push 3 safely, 5-6 is if you tap the throttle a lil too hard you're going boom. Anyone you know running that without forged internals is running a timebomb. Now onto the hellcat I currently own I got it 3 months ago at 2017 53k and 33k miles (lots of miles sure but it's in great condition) and I have fell in love with it. My insurance went from 200(3 vehicles) to 330 (also 3) and the power is crazy, I ran it in eco mode for the first 2 weeks until I learned the power and now I drive in full 700 all the time and as long as I'm not playing it gets a great(for the engine size) 19-22 mpg and if I play I get 15-17 and definitely find myself at the gas station a lil more often. But the fun is immense. If you have an RT I'd just go for a used hellcat if you can handle the power, don't wreck it for the rest of us please. The RT and Scat difference is so little in actual street practice that you might as well get the one with great gas mileage and pretty solid HP but if you're looking for a track car get the scat and forge internals and run a supercharger. Easily makes 900+ I've heard some boosting theirs with 11 and making 1200hp. Now the GT ( I know who cares right) this was the second challenger I've driven and it was fun and punchy but it got TERRIBLE GAS mileage because it takes so much to get it up to speed and unless you're driving it like a civic you're pissing gas out. Overall wouldn't have been happy if I settled for that instead of going for the RT which I recommend anyone get the RT (though remember they're not made to be beaten on 24/7 like the scat and cat) you may want to build the engine up a bit if you plan on slamming the gas light to light all day (that's where people blow the 5.7s so easily) remember everyone watch your oil temps! Don't hammer it if it's over 230 it's not worth it!
I said the same thing not a huge difference in the street between the RT and the SCAT .. the scat will start pulling away after 100 miles per hour.. I drove both
@@Muchacho77 yeah I noticed anything over 80 was much faster with the scats but like I said in street practice the RT is overall the better choice cause let's be real, most of us aren't going over 80 in day to day travel unless you ride the interstate to work. Scats are cool but for the gas mileage and performance difference I think the 5.7 would do just fine especially with the prices now, 19+ scats are more than used 2017-18 cats (we don't talk about the 2015-2016 problem years with the cats)
Not that was a great comment enjoyed reading all that good info. Thanks for saying not much street power difference RT to scat.
I will continue to enjoy my 5.7 super charged police package Charger
@@carlosmark9840 Hell with a SC on a 5.7 you should already be making atleast 500whp and with the police package if you have AWD then you definitely eat scats already and not far from competing with base cats, if you do have AWD I imagine your charger is a monster
So do you think it’s worth trading my rt for a scatpack.? I mean don’t race or don’t really have to much experience with muscle cars I guess it’s the fact of just saying I have a scat? But from you knowing and driving most trims it’s not worth it.!?
NGL I almost pulled the trigger on a scat pack. What kept me from the decision was the fact that my car is just about paid off. Not trying to finance another car. No note is great! 🙏🏾 I have a r/t plus
Can definitely take less than 7k to beat a scat.
I've owned the r/t and currently own a 23 scat pack. You are right on with all those points. 392 is a nice car but the 5.7 sounds really good with a mid muffler delete. + better fuel and insurance just sayn. Nothing wrong with that 5.7 imo... nice video thanx
Maaaan i dont even care if its a v6, i NEED a widebody charger, the look of them with a longer ducktail is just perfection
won't it eat at you just a little every day that u didn't get yourself a V8?
@@user-ex9zm7bg3x Nope, not at all, just the overall look sells it to me, sure a big monsterous V8 would make the car more fun but, i hardly like going fast in my 400hp Accord.
I bought my wife a Charger R/T, I know it’s kind of a sneaky way to get one but she loves it too. Plus she stays out of my Vette.
Good video! I got a good deal on my 5.7 Challenger in 2019. I wish I can afford a Scat Pack but the 5.7 is a solid choice.
5.7 still fun n sounds amazing tune headers intake n exhaust system,is all you need till it’s paid off than do more mods
I daily my R/T and don't race people. The mid grade gas is why I chose the R/T since I just wanted a quick car that sounds cool and is comfortable enough to daily.
Good insight. I think low miles used RT is way to go if you want the 5.7. New RTs are now over 40K and you can jump to a competitor like 'Stang or LT1 Camaro and get Scat Pack levels of power/acceleration for price of a RT. If you need the extra space in back, Scat is the way to go for sure!
Scat power for the Stang or LT1 but price varies
Fact’s, I even found Challengers SRT8 392 2011-2014 for like 30k or even 25k
@@josecalderon4048 shiiid!!! Where??? Point me to the right direction
@@khaosleigon504 right😂😂😂
@@josecalderon4048 How are the older 392 SRTs different than today's scat? I know the scat has some suspension, brake, and wheel/tire upgrades. Is the 392 still the same engine or little less power in those 11-14' years?
I had a 2008 Charger V6 2.7L which I use to love and even when I went homeless I use to sleep in it last year I bought a Hellcat redeye widebody so to go from a 2.7L to a 6.2 supercharged is insane, oh and I bought it cash too no car note, if I can do it you can do it too. 💪
Not a muscle guy but always wanted a charger or challenger ❤
A guy at my job is thinking about swapping his RT to a 6.4 so nice timing for this!
He should do it 💪🏾💪🏾
my insurance rates quotes were wildly different
To insure a scatpack or hellcat, I checked because I wanted to know how different it'd be. To insure a hellcat for me would be like 479$ a month or something similar.
Scatpack was 439$ a month for me. For an RT? 151$.
Yeah they look at it completely different.
My Infiniti G37 now, which arguably performs somewhere between an RT and a Scatpack, costs me 100$ a month to insure.
Sheesh. That’s another car payment
@@RUBIX3 I got one speeding ticket and one parking violation on my license but that was when I first got my license so I was double points
It's like 10 points rn from that
I have a g37 09 with resonAted rear pipes , intakes and pushing 370 hp , 171$ car insurance bought car 6k 🔥
Scatpacks are R/T too but with a 392 instead a of a 5.7
I went from a 5.7 rt to a 6.4 scat and would NEVER say buy a 5.7 instead.
I did as well. Personally I would still prefer the 6.4 over the 5.7 but not everyone needs the 6.4
Is there a big difference from rt and scat I’m thinking bout trading but already put lil over 1800$ n not trying to lose out
@@JVeleta11 I would like to but I have a family and I love to enjoy the whip so can’t really fit the fam in one would be nice but I mean don’t really race or mess around like that plus at the moment I’m balling on a budget so I think a 6.4 would be outta my league would be nice but I mean I still got that HEMI and sounds great and is fast than most cars on the street
I agree my friend. These are NOT MPG friendly cars. Daily is incredible w an E85 flex setup. About $3k total cost including tune. The Scat is a Punisher all day and fun to play. Almost same fuel economy vs HC. 5.7 RTs way better MPG and Plenty healthy
When I ordered a scat pack a few months back I canceled and ordered a hellcat instead. I new I'd be regretting it if I hadn't. I'd say, if anything, move up a notch rather than down or you'll regret it later. I've got a 2022 hellcat charger and am looking at going with an e85 package and adding close to 300whp to it. You can never have too much power.
That is true!
@@thatv8life186 I raced a trackhawk and was completely blown away. I found out later that thing was not stock. Had 1,300whp. Have had a few other close races. It's usable. Just gotta find the right times and places.
@@thatv8life186 on the freeway in Mexico.
I’m grateful that I got a boomer cruiser 22K mileage scat Widebody, all premium options added on. For 37K
Has a aftermarket exhaust, 5 inch tips, mid muffler delete, brand new tires, satin hood, sunroof, if I didn’t find this, I woulda got a RT, never saw myself owing a 6.4 within 5 years
That’s a good find!
It’s all fun in games until direct connect drops and them 392s pushing 600+ hp with a warranty.
They need to hurry up and drop it!!
Could you explain more what that is?
My first Chalkenger was a 5.7, my newer one us a 6.4 Shaker. They are both excellent cars, but the 6.4 specially with the shaker is noticeable more power and torque. The stock aur intake in the Shaker in my Challenger 50 is off the hook !
The 3.09 gear is why too
Because my homie has a rt and he has just a cam and he beats scars
Hold that thought brother before you go ahead with that purchase. I just recently learned that if you want to make good power on the cheap with a scat it’s much easier now with the 6.4 block 18 and newer have hellcat BGE blocks. This means if you build it you now have a forged cammed hellcat block capable of some extreme power numbers, much more so than any stock internal hellcat. Although if your trying to go cheap a 5.7 will do fine. But they run their problems as well like mds, valve seats in the head dropping, in sufficient oil pump, exhaust leaks from crap manifolds ect.
My purchase has been made. I’ve owned both.
@@RUBIX3 that’s fair. 👍
I thought the BGE 6.4 block was just in the trucks? You have a link or anything about it?
@@Lauria43 No 6.4 comes in trucks, challengers, chargers, jeep, and Durango. Google it. 18 and up 6.4 block are upgraded to hellcat blocks just needing internals,heads, cam, and some boost to make more power than an unbuilt hellcat fbo. I own a hellcat, have since 16. 18 is when all the best updates for these platforms were given even to the hellcats which trickled down to the 392.
I got a 16 scat...but I'm pretty satisfied....its got a different block then the 18s?
I have the opportunity to get a Hellcat but the insurance is NO joke. Already had a Scat Pack but also looking at a Mopar Edition Challenger! She could win me back.
Great video bro ! I have a ‘21 RT challenger, I’m really considering jumping to the 392. I haven’t driven one yet so I’m curious how much of a difference the feeling is . The RT seems plenty fast but idk lol.
One thing to note is the challengers are cheaper than the chargers but I love the wide body charger look. What to do ? Lol 😩
Id say if you got the RT might as well jump to the hellcat bruh scat only got a lil over 100 more hp
follow ur dreams bro u wont be young forever
@@dyfunction4506hell cats aren't cheap
People are confused here, R/T is a trim level having nothing to do with what engine you order. The R/T has, among other things, wider tires Bilstiein shocks lowered ride height etc. It is set up from factory to corner after all R/T is "Road and Track". My R/T was ordered with the ScatPack Shaker group as well. It is a manual trans that makes me grin all the time ;
I think a bigger question that nobody mentions is what are your plans with the car? For me the R/T is the best because I’m going to replace the brakes, transmission, diff, engine and just about everything else. So it makes 0 sense to spend the extra $$$ if I’m just replacing everything anyway
If that’s the case, just get an sxt or junkyard shell
I agree. If you are planning to replace everything just get a shell from the junkyard or an SXT
@Naz I don't think he meant replace the engine just mod the engine and replace everything around it. I might do the same with mine
@@elstaywinning5735 no I meant replace the whole thing. Aluminum hemi block 426 stroker
You are absolutely correct that the Scat Pack is quick to break traction. You can be doing 30 MPH and bust the tires loose with no problem without even intending to do it. (I did it twice last week) It's a lot of car and demands respect.
Very true!! You definitely got to respect what these cars do!
I hate when people say scat all day why u have a RT.Maybe we can't afford a scat, payments, insurance,gas or most importantly maybe we don't want our car stolen the same day we get it,there are plenty of reasons why.But people are ignorant as hell....it's to be expected.I love my RT and always will,the deal was way to good to pass it up.In the future for sure I will get a scat but for now I'm enjoying the hell out if my RT 🔥💪
For sure! I had an RT as well and enjoyed driving it! Nothing wrong with that!
Rt don't sound loud like we scats
Bought the RT 5 days ago. Absolutely love it for the price.
I didn’t need a 6.4 but I needed that widebody 🤤, to me that was the only way to go. 5.7 widebody and I woulda jumped on it for sure
On thing about a 5.7 widebody is the cost. It would easily cost more than a 6.4.
@@RUBIX3 it depends on how much u pay for your rt…a show Ik buys the kit …applied the paint…and kit on a 5.7 for 5,500 to add wheels/rims that’s only 1,100-1,600 depending on which widebody tires/rims u want
@@RUBIX3 Yeah it would be the price of a narrow body scat, but I wasn't looking for the power but the look and upgraded driving components. 5.7 can also handle more power if I wished to mod in the future but I do love my scat for it being stock
Hit all the questions I had & straight to the point 👍
Great video as always. Definitely gives someone in the market for a Mopar something to think about.
Appreciate that 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
I wanna know what should my credit be & what should my down payment range be. I wanna know if awd is better or rwd, is it best to get a gt or an rt if price isn’t an option. Things to lookout for when talking to dealerships so they don’t screw you over, what should the mileage be when I first get it, what kinds of dealerships are good, what’s the best insurance, are the good for traveling, how to help with security of your car as far as theft like he was saying, I wanna know everything to be prepared!
you should mention general maintenance on the scats are 2x to 3x more brembo brakes are stupidly expensive yes there are ways around it like using off brand break pads and doing your own oil changes my rt was maybe 80 bucks for a oil change my scat is setting around 120
I talked about maintenance in a different video but you are right. Maintenance is for sure more expensive!
The only reason why i would even consider hellcat red eye is cause of the supercharge whining noise 😭😭
Great video
Excellent video man. I just bought the 2023 R T last call in July and wish I would have got the scat pack, but can't do nothing about it now, I wish I would have seen this video before I bought it, definitely would have bought the scat ✌
I don't get it, I've driven a scatpack 3 times in sport and track mode and was not impressed at all so bought a new 5.7. I've seen multiple rt people beat scat's with just a few additions to the engines as well so it sold me with overall value for a daily driver. As far as building an engine I've seen rt's and hellcats as better options also. My gf even drove my car for 5 months and laughed on how slow the scat was... however my first car was a 5.0 foxbody mustang so I could care less about scats lol.
I swear maybe it’s just me or something, but I test drove both vehicles and I didn’t feel a difference between the rt and the scat pack.
You’re retarded or stoned
@@niggashark7710 were u high
@@scottieodle7606 Been driving since 9 you're just super late unfortunately!
is it easy to put the widebody kit on the rt because i really just want a widebody charger i dont care about the engine lol
No don’t waste your money on a RT if you can afford the scat pack!.. it’s way more fun.😊
Rule #1 never buy a used hellcat xD
Unless you know 100% the previous owner took care of it…other than that I would stay away
I picked up a used 2012 pursuit, or as I consider it, a debadged R/T with some added police goodies like stiffer suspension, bigger brakes, limited slip, etc. Best part, I got it for less than 7k, so I can definitely make it faster than a scat for cheaper than a scat lmao
Na I’m taking the scat
Your payments will be a $1000 a month
@@captainamericaandcaptainma3337cap I pay 400$ a month
Great content! I started with a 5.7 Shaker Challenger for years, then I took B Mason's advice and traded for a new Scat Pack Challenger with the HP 70 Auto Tranny. You are correct, way less money difference to just get a Scat then modding with bolt ons with the 5.7.
Buy the Scatpack. You'll regret not having the extra power. The 392 is the sweet spot as far as HP. It's enough to light up the tires but not too much like the Hellcat. You can launch a Scatpack without spinning tires for 200 feet.
I own four Dodge Chargers 2006 2014 2015 and now my 2020. The two hemi was all right cuz I just like Dodge. But there was nothing like the bank for the buck for the 2015 Scat Pack and now that I have a 20/20 Scat Pack. Car is a good investment. Take care of and don't drive it a lot it'll be worth money one day.
For me I felt blessed to find a under 10k miles HC for less than a new Scat price. It was a "Where do I sign?" Instant decision
A scatpack was perfect for me.... i picked a new widebody scat over a used hellcat💯
Definitely a fun car to drive!
Get a 12-14 srt-8 and mod the 5speed trans, preferably stage 2 and you'll beat the new scat packs respectfully. I love all the charger models.
A 2012 srt8 for 35k think its worth it only 8k miles automatic
I own a 2023 Scat Pack Charger, and it is expensive. But, it is definitely worth it.
I encourage whoever read this to search up “SMS 570 Challenger” made by Saleen. This is back in like 2012/13 or so. 570 had 500HP & 570X had 700!
THE ORIGINAL HELLCAT! It even had a functional butterfly hood 🙌🏼
Just bought a 2019 Scat Pack. My Ram has a 5.7 at 390hp. I Told myself F it and get a 6.4
Nothing wrong with that 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
I’m happy w ma 22 charger R/T payments are $680 +140. And I spent more money on gas then my car payment and insurance. Scat packs are known to be on Eco mode on a daily basis should’ve went with a Honda.
I used eco once on my scat pack and was like “I can’t do this” lol
Really nice Dodge! Get some black side view mirror fairings and that will make it POP!!
🙏🏾🙏🏾 appreciate it. I got some plans for it
This is the video that helped me most trying to get into a charger.
One things certain, Dodge drivers are the coolest dudes on earth!
I’m js if you got a 5.7 and want a solid ass deal 3,500 dollars for a front mount turbo setup with everything you need, my buddy builds them and his challenger makes over 550 to the wheels. He’s been running that setup for over a year and had 0 issues. Simple setup. If you’re under warranty, it’s simple enough that you can quickly uninstall everything and make it stock again. If you have questions he will respond to you immediately! This is his business!
great video bro you helped me alot with my decesion
My 2023 Scat was 78k it's a wide body. 2023 RT 5.7 was 51 out the door. That's a 26k difference lol The 2023 Jailbreak hellcat was 101 out the door. So it's 25k difference in them.
Fun fact, a base model RT and base model Scat have the same 0-60….that being said I wouldn’t bother with a scat without the dynamics package which puts you in the mid 50s right off the bat.
Of course scat has more top end but the RT is also severely restricted up top thanks to crappy intake manifold and log style headers(scat has shorties and better flowing intake), the ram 5.7 has 30hp more with just a different intake manifold and presumably slightly different tuning.
Another point if you just want the scat sound, put a scat pack exhaust on a 5.7 sounds the same as a scat just faster idle.
And one more, the fastest Mopar drag package is a 5.7, if I remember right it’s like high 7’s in the 1/4 and not quite base hellcat power. Gutted I’m sure tho but still.
Might as well get a scat then
@@captainamericaandcaptainma3337 overall the RT is cheaper, the mods to make a scat and RT even used to even out the cost but not sure that’s the case anymore given how expensive scats have gotten. Plus insurance is like half the cost on an RT
And the RT is a good 300-350lbs lighter
Scat is the all around better option if you afford the gas. Maintenance is not that bad. Love my car
Just got a used R/T due to the mileage and price it’s an 18 but it only had 28 thousand miles on it had one previous owner picked it up for 27k and I’m satisfied with it for those exact reasons
Not bad at all!
@@RUBIX3 appreciate it!
@@304cortez85used one aren't better than new ones