Roland HR-30 vs Ddrum Pro Triggers - External Electronic Drum Trigger Comparison Dual Zone
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- Опубліковано 11 січ 2021
- Who makes the best external drum trigger? In this video I compare the two most popular dual zone triggers. The Roland RT-30HR amzn.to/3nztq74 and the Ddrum Pro Trigger amzn.to/35y04jf. If you get the ddrum, you can pick up one of these adapters amzn.to/2LmnzVv for your module. If you prefer not to use Amazon, you can pick both of these triggers up at reverb.grsm.io/demonicsweaters.
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I think from this video you can say they both worked rather well!! Nice review Justin!!
Perfect timing! Thanks!
ohh nice looking forward this ddrum vs roland trigger 😉
sounds really good. great playing!
Thanks a lot!
the DDrum has XLR I believe for the locking feature that a 1/4" doesn't have. it's decently simple to swap a 1/4" connector on the other end of an XLR if you have some basic soldering skills, but can also get adapters or specific cables easily
Adapter for DDRUM better mono or stereo jack?
Morning Justin 👍
good morning!
Thank you for the video. What skins and rubber rims are you using? Cheers
I'd like to know, too.
I think xrl output in Ddrum design is to accomodate sound engineer who strugle delivering clean sound during live performence, some engineer use it to gateting drum mic.
I don't know, that seems like a pretty weird thing to focus on considering most people will be buying these to use as e-drum triggers.
A lot of live engineers use triggers for drum gates, hence the xlr outputs.
Bro you need to share your kit and let us download it cause it sounds amazing specially the racktoms
Hi, greats reviews. I have a question on RT 30HR. I have that trigger with roland td-9, and i have problem wi th dynamics and sometimes with fast roll i have missing hit. Any ADVICE? Whats your settings? Thanks a lot !! :)
Settings will vary from drum to drum, so setting it exactly like mine probably wouldn't help. I just selected the RT30 preset then increased the sensitivity a bit. You could have your retrigger cancel or scan time set too high if you're missing fast triggering.
@@demonicsweaters Thanks a lot, i try decrease scan time, i have scan time on 2ms. :)
hi, nice video, thanks! do you know if d-drum triggers can be used on the roland spd-sx module? i'm wondering if the voltage etc. is compatible... thanks!
Yes you can!
I've had the DDrum Redshots for years, and honestly, they did not last very long at all. The piezos don't last long, they break/crack easily, the solder points fail much too early, and attaching them by removing the lug is a big hassle and effects the tuning ability.
did you find the signal was weak from them? i bought them to make an ekit with an old acoustic kit and a nitro mesh brain but the red shots never seem to provide a really strong signal meaning a quieter sample
@@mustseeaudio749 I did find that shifting/bending them to lay with more/less pressure on the head, I was able to find a sweet spots and have a decent transient response, but never all that great.
Really have the snare trigger dialed in
Im close to buy a ddrums chrome elite trigger set, do you recomend it and is possible to use whit batter (normal) drumheads or need metch?
I haven't tried their Chrome Elites, but I've used the pro and redshot ones, both are great. You can use acoustic heads with both redshots and pros, so I'm assuming the elites too. Though the redshot has a tough time on my acoustic kick, so I made one (very simply) by sticking a piezo to the head with double sided tape, then covering it with a piece of gaff tape. For some reason this triggers perfectly on my kick. My acoustic kit I have redshots on the snare and racktom and a pro on the floor. Bigger drums tend to have more retrigger issues, and the pro seems to handle it better. Also, acoustic heads, thicker, deader heads (like hydraulics) work best.
@@demonicsweaters thankyou very much for the info, very valuable.
@@demonicsweaters i have the chrome elite they really sensitive with my ddrum ddti module works fine on acoustic and mesh head, but i have some wierd polarity issu when im using the dual zone with my roland tm6 pro the rim is not detected with my trs xlr cable, so i buy roland trigger and it works but i realy prefer the sensitivity of the chrome elite over roland one...
I just did an A2E conversion and used ddrum chrome elite triggers. Working pretty well after just a few small adjustments in the module. The only thing I can’t figure out is how to get the dual zone snare working properly. I know their snare trigger is supposed to have that feature, but when I hit the rim of the drum it registers as a hit to the drum head. The only way it triggers a rim shot or cross stick is to actually tap the chrome trigger shell, and then it registers as a hit to the rim.
Any suggestions on how to fix this so that I can get a rim shot or cross stick sound by actually hitting the rim of the drum and not having to tap the actual trigger. I saw on your video where you used the ddrum pro trigger you were able to access both zones easily, and it should basically be the same setup with the chrome elite line as it is with the pro line.
Also for reference I’m using a standard Alesis strike snare cable with a Hosa 1/4inch to XLR Adapter, running into my Alesis Strike module, which should access both zones for the snare I thought.
Thanks! Any help is appreciated. Seems like you got it to work easily in your video. Wanted to see if I got a defective snare trigger or if I’m doing something wrong.
Does the strike have a head/rim adjust setting?
Just the normal sensitivity, threshold, xtalk, etc.
But even messing around with those it hasn’t really worked. Even taking the most extreme measures on the settings, only once out of every 20-30
Hits does it register a rimshot, even when cranking up threshold on the snare head and turning it almost all the way down for the rim.
@@noahdillingham3788 Head/Rim adjust is really what you need to dial that in. You could also try making sure you're not pushing the trigger down against the head of the drum before you tighten it. Just let it gently rest on the head then tighten to the rim.
Thanks! I’ll try to find head-rim adjust on the strike module. If you know where that is let me know. I know when I had the old Alesis Command module and even the DM10 they both had head/rim adjust. It’s got to be in the strike module somewhere. I just haven’t found it. Thanks for the advice!
Funny enough, I plugged in my Alesis DM10 MKII PRO module and it has the head-rim adj, messed with that and it fixed it.
Unless I’m missing something(a definite possibility) it’s odd that the strike module doesn’t have that feature. If I’m missing it and anyone knows where it is please let me know.
Thanks!
Help como você instalou o da Roland não sai um som legal na minha caixa
ddrum uses XLR connectors due to the cable locking in place, which is more secure for live situations.
People keep saying that, but it's really a silly reason. Guitars use 1/4" jacks, and those guys are literally jumping around on stage. You don't see a bunch of guitar cables falling out of guitars do you? I've gigged many times with e-drums using 1/4" cables and have never had one fall out.
@@demonicsweaters Well, that's ddrum's claim. After all it's not a huge deal, appropriate cables are readily available everywhere. I've used triggers with both XLR and TRS connectors and have never had any issues either.
Can the ddrum trigger need a module to work or can it go straight to the mixer? If not, are are there triggers that doesn't need a module and that can just go straight to the mixer?
No, all triggers need modules, or at least software. They’re not microphones.
Soooooooo, in the future, if I want to change the pads on my Roland TD07-DMK, I can buy some acustic toms/snare, their respective mesh pads and add the Roland triggers.... hmmmmmm.... Interesting!
The xlr is better sound and easier to hook up I fitted my whole e kit drums set with xlr sounds great.
XLR will make no difference in the sound at all. Your drum module produces all of the sounds.
I've been searching all over to see if the redshots work with like a roland td1... I can't find an answer anywhere.
yeah, they work with just about any module
Does the Ddrum trigger work on the Alesis Sample Pad pro?
It should. I've never tried one of the alesis sample pads, but it's a standard piezo trigger, so it should work.
Did you add extra rubber covers on your drum rims, why if so?
Keeps the sound down of banging the rims. Pintech sells them
@@demonicsweaters Thanks!
What is the black stuff over the tom snare rims
it's Pintech Silentrim amzn.to/3ILrB4F
Adapter for DDRUM better mono or stereo jack?
stereo
Having an acoustic drums with Evans mesh can be trigger too?
Yeah, that’ll work!
pro of Roland, you get the cable
Con of DDrum, you have to buy all your cables
Yeah, but in a live situation, the ddrums have always worked better for me. The Roland ones always come loose and eventually fall off. If I'm playing live with external triggers I'll use ddrum every time.
@@demonicsweaters thnx for this good information. You put them on once and then they remain there?
@@Svenne1981 yep, they're metal with drum key tightening mechanisms. On toms I really like the Redshots, single zone, but attached via tension rod, impossible for them to come loose. The pros and elites are very good too. Although, one Chrome Elite I purchased had an unusually small drum key lug, so I had to swap it out. Not sure how that happened. A standard drum key was too big for it.
That means you don't gig out too much. Think xlr Drum mic snakes.
Derp