Video is on point. Perfect analysis. India 2.0 should have been focused on building a cost effective sub 4m platform for India with which they could have continued Polo and a Nexon/Brezza competition. Taigun should have been much bigger. If these were adressed, just these, they would have been in a far better position. Today they dont have a single car which sells more than 3k cars monthly. Sad and pitiable. Looks like VW is destined to fail, purely because of their holier than thou attitude from the beginning. Management of VW India is bringing them down and nobody else!
@@SuperImbadude not really . Virtus and taigun were specifically designed for countries like India. Very practical cars. But polo was never a fully practical car
Look at what Toyota did. First they brought Qualis which proved its mettle by being very very reliable and low on maintenance. Then came Etios and Liva. Though they were budget segment, but they became big hit with taxi segment. Toyota then becane synonymous with reliability. Ask any Innova customer. I have heard taxi drivers say, "Saab, 4 lakh kilometer se upar chal gayi hai gaadi". Imagine, 4 lakh + kms and no reliability issues. Just regular maintenance. That's what people want first. Rest all things later.
Yes. But now toyota has changed its strategy and now doesnot offer single car affordable to cab drivers now. any variant of innova is less than 30 lakshs. Toyota rumion tho rebadge of ertiga which is not a good cab car for reasons unknown.
@@SAIPRADEEP070 You are right. Toyota has indeed changed its strategy. They had to. They were on the brink of quitting India when diesel engines of more than a certain capacity were banned (a few years ago). That's when they had to launch a petrol engine in Crysta in order to remain relevant in the Indian market and I think it around that time only when they began thinking of partnering with Suzuki (the world over, not just in India). They discontinued Liva, brought in Glanza. They discontinued Etios but did not bring Ciaz equivalent (which they did in some other countries). Instead they got the Brezza's cousin Urban Cruiser. Though their numbers were not comparable to that of Maruti Suzuki (for Baleno and Brezza), at least they saw increased sales and increased footfall. They realized in time that in a country like India, they need a local partner and even world over 'cause they were struggling in the small car segment. From that standpoint, VW's decision to look for a local partner is not a bad decision at all. They should just have chosen their words more carefully.
Yes, VAG cars do qualify as being over-engineered. The TSI engine is a gem. Its a hoot to drive when you floor the accelerator while it gives brilliant fuel economy when you are just coasting along. 1.5 TSI comes with cylinder de-activation technology. For as simple as removing the headlight switch completely in 2 seconds to installing it back in 2 seconds is what can be termed as an over-engineering car. There are many more examples which I can mention. We as a nation can never have VAG cars selling in numbers. VAG can only play in a niche market because we want value for money products. In order to make value for money cars, manufacturers have to cut costs on many fronts which is against the DNA of VAG. If VAG starts making cars similar to Kia/Hyundai or Maruti, then why would I buy VAG cars. Solution: 1) Make Skoda cheap and affordable and make VW premium or vice-versa. 2) For every model, be it a Slavia or Tiguan, offer Torque Convertor gearbox along with DSG, as it is for many Scandinavia markets. 3) Offer 10yrs/2L kms warranty on DSG gearboxes offered in India. If you can have this warranty for the Chinese market then why not for India. 4) DO NOT ENTER INTO ANY ARRANGEMENTS WITH MAHINDRA. History is filled with instances where they have killed all their partners for whatever reasons. Also, VAG management will never agree for M&M advises. Skoda and VW are strong brands in India. 5) Train your salesmen. They frankly do not even know about the cars that they are selling. A short UA-cam video will give you more information than what you get at showrooms. Frankly Volkswagen group isn't as strong as it was during Ferdinand Piëch's era which ended in 2018. He could be termed as Steve Jobs of VW Group.
@@aneeshkv9477 oh. Spot on…. More warranty. Bring Seat to India and try selling cheaper and better cars without compromising on safety and engineering standards. VW cannot launch alto alternatives. Maintain the standard. Aim for 10l -20 l market with bigger SUVs. Indians think that bigger SUVs have better road presence. King of body roll- Scorpio is sold like hotcakes. Taigun is too tiny to appeal Indian mindset
I recommend Volkswagen to appoint @Sunderdeep Singh as independent advisor who has been giving clear message on what we need. Then VW may not require local partner if we have multiple models. Taigun and Kushaq can be called as sub compact SUV or MPV
Yeah local mechanic ko dene me darr lagta vw ki cars. Koi ni khol sakta faltu me risk. kon lega market me resale value ni. Upar se Over engineering nahi Less Size is the biggest issue. Smaller size is the main biggest issue indians not buying Kushaq Taigun. Period
Honda is also following VW's path. They too appear arrogant with their product lineup. Elevate could have been a game changer with hybrid. Also, the car lacks basic features like TPMS. This is why it is now struggling to sell in Indian market.
Firstly, Honda has not invested 2 billion dollars and they are also exporting well. They are not burning cash, hence fact is, Honda is very profitable company with 3 models in India.
crazy idea: VW should collaborate with Honda !! 😂 Honda has Hybrid tech. Imagine a Taigun Hybrid using Honda tech and Elevate with TSI turbo. 😊 And Taigun with 1.5 v-tech naturally aspirated to keep the cost low.
@@seael2008That would be a dream collab but VW will collab with a local player to help with government contacts and lobbying. 1.5 VTEC instead of 1.0 TSI would be really good. Honda City with 1.5 TSI.
@@alburaq3290 You are right. They need the right contacts and lobbying. + the desi tag will help a lot. MS is a huge success because the government still has quite a bit of stake in the Maruti Suzuki business. They get all the insider info it seems.
VW lineup have major deficiency in their present lineup :- 1. They don’t have a hatchback in their lineup in order to compete with market Japanese and Korean queen, they should bring back polo or fabia with multiple engine options. 2. They don’t have a fleet vehicle (sedan) in lineup with performance proved CNG powered MPFI engine in order to compete with fleet taxis sales. As turbo charged petrol engines are not economical for taxis. 3. Current lineup is not having CNG powered 1.5L MPFI engine as completion in market is offering with hybrid options and few have diesel options also available. Many consumers require engine efficiency over turbo thrill. 4. Air condition of VW Skoda is not as good as others in same segment. 5. Genuine Spare parts are difficult in procuring in aftermarket
Very well said. I was in the market for 15+ car and was serious about Skoda/VW but then i realized after spending 15-18 lakhs, i will get 10-12 mileage on a fuel whose prices would only increase. If they had sub-4m suv with 12-15 range, those would have been more affordable as a customer. Not everyone is earning 30-40 lpa but everyone dreams about owning a big car, India is going through premiumization, iPhones have become common, there are more 12+ lakh cars on roads and despite all these signs, VW and Skoda, the most aspirational brands for average Indian, they still not have been able to crack the market, it's their only fault, saying we over-engineered cars for Indian market is simple disrespectful.
I Don't want VW grp to collab with MAHINDRA. Act on proper market research on requirement and emotion of customer. Well said Sunderdeep ji, Hope this reaches the management and they share this to Germany.
They are European bro... They are failing because of their attitude... They try to be premium and big... They won't ever understand how Indian customers think... They just want to push what they have but never work on what Indian customers want... According to them countries like India are still a 3rd world country... It's not just in case... Look at FMCG... HUL/UL is selling the same brands both market but here they use palm oil and there they use a good quality refined oil... Here they'll use Maida, there they'll use fibre rich foods... Similarly they create a low quality engine in a design that they have been selling in their country and try to fool Indian customers... Just to match the prices that competitors are selling... These engines are so compromised as the prices they fall in...
Lol. You barely know what mahindra is capable off! Mahindra’s SUV are some of top SUVs you would see in the world. Mahindra is kinda low cost toyota to world!
@@shreyass9922 Nice joke, have owned their XUV700, SCORPIO N. Ride, handling and build is no where close to the KAROQ. experienced poor after with Mahindra. I may be biased but M&M can't be compared with VW.
Again the loyal VW enthusiast will suffer who invested in VW cars despite compromising on features, presence, service issues. I fear that due to this CEO comment July sales might plummet to below 1K. A sad Day!
I can totally relate to your point at 11:00. I am that papa, i had shortlisted VW Virtus and Kia Seltos. My heart really wanted Virtus but it didn't appeal to my family. Nail in the coffin was the AC in 1.0 model. When my family sat in seltos, AC was a chiller, coupled with a panaromic sunroof. Top notch fit and finish. I knew I had no choice but to go with seltos comprising on safety and performance. We Indians are emotional people. We want best bang for our buck. My insta/youtube feed is still full of Virtus. I keep crushing over it. But news like this kills that enthusiasm I have for VW. I really felt they were nearing success in India. I so wish they remain solo rather than becoming a redbadged Maruti for Toyota.
Skoda’s CEO also said that ‘over-engineering’ was a misstep for the Indian car market in the past and its new lineup, specifically the compact SUV that’s coming by March 2025, is set to change that. “We have a lot of lessons learnt in the Indian market. Often we build (a) car according to our own expectations. They tend to be over-engineered. And that comes at a price tag. And of course that's something that weakens your competitive position,” he said. He added that the company needs to learn and be aware of the sweet spot. "That's what we're after. We want to build the cars that customers in India are willing to pay for. And this is a lesson we continuously need to learn. Our price position versus competition is very ambitious. The idea is to provide a car that's even better than what's typically being catered to, in that segment," he said.( Autocar ) Isn't this part to worry about quality issues now ?
a company that spent $2B is not stupid to not research well. thats impossible. It was their sheer ego that damaged them, plus the babudom they must have suffered - no one telling the truth to germans while their local tema here was focussed on bonuses and promotions.
Over engineered is a disrespect for Indians. And I dont understand why a lot of people abuse indian people for not making the right choices for car. Its true that we value features a lot but isn't the same brand offering hell lot of features with newer models in europe?These brands including koreans still treat us as a 3rd grade country. Audi is also struggling here despite of giving more discount whereas bmw merc doing fine. These guys will learn lessons once ev chinese manufacturers eat their pie worldwide. Hyundai and kia card doing great in safety in euro ncap but indin versions are not doing great. Sometime I dont even trust gncap. Most of the people dont even know that earlier they were only testing frontal crash. They updated the test with side impact and all of a sudden tata vw skoda started offering 6 airbags as standard. People should smell these hacks😂
Perfect analysis sir. vw india has to listen what customer want....just like- 1) polo sub 4meter suv 1.2 mpi, 1.0 tsi (8.99-14.99)price or polo premium hatchback with 1.2 mpi , 1.0 tsi (8.10 to 11.99)price range. (manual ,cvt ,torque cov)(cng) 2) sedan 1.5 mpi 1.5 tsi (12.99-20)price range (manual ,cvt ,torque cov) 3)proper midsize suv creta/seltos rival or facelift and bigger size taigun with 1.5 mpi , 1.5tsi , 1.5 tdi with adblue dpf (manual , cvt, torquecov) (13.50 to 21.99)price range 4) 7 seater mpv or suv with 1.5 mpi,1.5 tsi , 1.5 tdi dpf adblue(manual , cvt, torquecov) (16.99 to 24.99)price range note -6 six airbag std, all disc, spacious cabin, bigger Road presence , and most extra and important point - easy to modification just like creta parts available in aftermarket . people buy creta ex varient and convert into creta sx topline varient .. coupler to coupler part change and boom top model ready. thank you🙃
Biggest problem with these brands is they don't listen to the customers Same with Honda, they have launched the Elevate but without panoramic sunroof, ventilated seats,no multiple engine options,no features,no crash test rating etc resulting sudden decrease in the sales..I talked with one dealer,he said he has 2023 stock.. people aren't even considering the Elevate because of better feature loaded options,engines options available and now they have provided standard 6 Airbags, 3 point seatbelts etc from base variant but they are waiting to clear the existing stock then they will start the production of new variant with added safety features.. I was a honda fan but now stopped supporting them because what the use when they aren't listening to the customer who is considered as a KING👑 and the top officials are from japan and how they will understand the Indian market which itself is very difficult to crack.. VW's Mr Guptaji is trying very hard from his side but it's always the headquarter which handles every decision.. In future,we will be left with 4-5 brands only and we will see their monopoly.
Firstly, Honda has not invested 2 billion dollars and they are also exporting well. They are not burning cash, hence fact is, Honda is very profitable company with 3 models in India.
@@saurabhshinoda ther were in losses for 2-3 consecutive years till 2021..But revised their strategy and from 2022,they are making good profits..No company can do business in losses
Agreed with all the points. Dil ki baat boldi Sir ji. And I can't beleive I am stating this today..For my family car I am inclined towards buying a Creta N Line over the Vag twins. Currently driving a 1.5 tdi stage 1 tuned Polo. I wish VW learn soon from these points. For God's sake we don't want another exit. Indeed a sad scenario.
As a Taigun owner, I've observed few more things in the mid-range variants compared to similarly priced competitors. In addition to its size, road presence, and underperforming AC, it lacks features like push-button start, LED lights, and a sunroof, all that are available in similarly priced seltos, creta!! Furthermore, the backseat is narrow and can't comfortably accommodate five passengers like Creta and Seltos.
@@Adwatism see the basic common sense is missing with people nowadays in India and its growing .. he should have mentioned the model, price and then compared the features with other manufacturers...
@@travelraw5788 Lmao he is absolutely right didnt u read his comment properly....Vw only offer 3 variants whereas other manufacturers offer many variant with different features
Very Very Right !! Every word jo apne kaha woh bilkul Sahi hai… VW / Skoda ko apka yeh Video dekhna chahiye!! Apne sab kuch sahi bataya hai aur sahi guide kiya hai.. 🙏 .
mild hybrid especially 48V eTSI on the 1 liter engine will inprove the city mileage of Skoda vehicles this shuld have been a no brainer when they decided to drop diesels especially with 2.0 strategy Slavia n Kushaq
The one thing they should first change is to eliminate the turbo engines and bring NA 4cylinder engines.I've always said Turbo engines are not meant for Indian market due to its various drawbacks.If you are only focussing on turbo engines you cannot target the masses. 1.Eliminate the turbo engines and bring NA 4 cylinder engines but yes u can keep turbo options also. 2. Increase size of vehicles. 3.Improve service availability. 4. Invest in marketing
@@cartech.4011 not elimate but make lowest non-turbo variant segment also. size of vehicle - many bought taigun/kushaq for its compact size - who lives in dense cities. Adding L version or a different category car makes more sense. The quality they provide , and their engineering with lot of taxes makes it very difficult to make affordable cars for VW/Skoda. Even if one single feature is missing in car (that may not even be useful) , people in India dont buy that car , because majority in India is not worried about quality, driving dynamics , driving pleasure , safety. All they want is Features. And some brands in India has ruined our customer demand portfolio by giving then Plethora of features , diverting customers attention from handling,braking,safety etc etc.
VW,Ford,Skoda and Jeep they are/were here to manufacturing cars for export, selling cars here is just a by product.Thats the reason their models are aligned both for India and Global market.
Sunderdeep, you are bang on. I am an owner of this family of car and I totally agree with you. Another few years and this group is going to fold up in India.
Being a tech entrepreneur myself, i truly value over engineering, innovation and required product updates. I waited five months, from January to May 2024, for Skoda or VW to launch any facelift or updates such as ADAS, a better 360 camera, a dashcam, or improved interior, seats and overall comfort. But they just changed the color and kept launching the same car repeatedly without any significant changes. I am buying a car in 2024, so why would I choose the same old model made back in 2021? Then being angry i bought Creta N Line N10 DCT, priced at 24.40 Lakhs and my game is over for VW. Ps. Creta N Line is beast.
No one in their right minds will consider Taigun or Kushaq over Creta Nline just because of a little better steering feedback and better handling.. N line is a good handler in its own right and is far better in terms of fit and finish
only faltugiri and blaming India market. looks like that $2B is also a fake number. I did not see any good car from VW yet matching what their global brand recognition is. just putting poor version of their known cars.
VW should not partner with desi local brand because of a very poor record of partnership..jinse partner kiya tha wo chala gya india se.. Also In the engineering of 7∅∅,they have used ford for each and everything as making a car like 7∅∅ from ground level wouldn't be possible for a desi local brand.Even ford's version of 7∅∅ was planned but didn't happen.. They will eat all technology,R&D of vw and use it in their cars & will break the JV. Desi local brands don't want tax cuts on hybrid cars because they don't have hybrid technology and they opposed it on Japanese OEM's proposal to the govt to reduce the taxes from 43% to 15-20%..This would have increased the chances of more investment, localisation of hybrid technology in India but again desi local brands don't want it.. I'm pissed off from that day..
I didnt see any better comment but this is just the perfect analysis . Yes Mahindra ( a desi local brand ) is not a good partner in each and every crucial aspect . They ditched their own partner ( ford ) and used them for engineering of their vehicle . I hate mahindra for their lack of sensitivity to everything be it user experience , engine durability . Alas , i dont want Vw ( a global giant ) to parter up with mahindra . Or else going to buy one of their cars before this partnership .
Very rightly said about Ford's stolen technology and then ditched Ford. Come on customers you got to read this or at least share this guy's comment as far and wide as possible. Every car owners and future owners has to know this.
I highly agree with you. Their cars are engineered at its best and they feel very good. But the thing is they only offer is turbo petrol engines instead of NA engines which they should offer this option for the buyers who don't want to go with turbo engines. Tata, Mahindra, Maruti Suzuki, Hyundai they offer so much options and at different price brackets. This is what is missing from VW and Skoda. They are not offering hatchbacks, compact sedans, which VW tried with Ameo but it felt like Polo with boot at the rear, but didn't succeed because it looked awkward. VW and Skoda should travel India properly and listen to customers very well what customers needed, or better they consult with brands like, Hyundai, Kia, Tata and Mahindra who have so many options at variety of prices which caters customers better with more variants, engine and gearbox combos. This is where it gets very challenging for VW and Skoda as they like to maintain the top notch quality and cannot compromise for Indian market. Like other brands like Tata, Mahindra, Hyundai and Kia, they should offer an MPV, Compact SUV, 7 seater SUVs, compact sedans, premium hatchbacks etc. with NA and turbo engines of small and large capacity, manual and automatics, petrol, diesel, mild-hybrid, CNG as well as have larger network instead of having network in select places where they feel they are capable of buying a well-engineered vehicle. But there is no getting away from the fact that they'll not leave India because they find this a mature market and what these two Germans need is a lot of exploration in the market, take a look at each example of vehicles being offered for the customers.
Toyota is still a strong and beloved brand despite selling taxis. Taxis tell you that these cars are reliable, easy to maintain and no headache ownership. VW would be lucky to have these qualities.
@@alburaq3290absolutely true. There was an article in team bhp that cars which are taxis are actually reliable. I don't know what happened to Tata now, but when we bought their Indica and Manza, it served us with no issues whatsoever. In WB I see Bolts and Manzas running around as taxis
You are spot on. I have been waiting for a Polo in some form, nothing has happened. Still hanging on to my old Polo. Some cool features like opening the windows from outside were removed in Taigun and Virtus citing chip shortage. It has still not come. 6 air bags should have been made the standard when Taigun and Virtus launched.
Imho the issue is not catering the 10-12 lakh bracket customers and having a very small line up of only 3 cars in which 1 is a lot expensive for the middle class buyer. Really cannot understand the fact that if a sub 4 meter skoda suv can be made then why not a sub 4 meter hatchback can be developed by the VW group. My friend drove our Taigun and convinced his father to go for the same. Only when people will drive and realise themselves how good the cars are only then they will buy them and in order to so they need to cater the lower segment and make them realise how good the cars are , increasing people’s confidence in the brand which will then also allow them to sell their expensive models in the future as well to the same customer
I'm still very satisfied with my Kushaq. Alot of friends also told me that I should've gotten creta as a first car. Also I could agree to the 2 points that you mentioned. I was going to buy virtus 1.0 but my parents told me to get kushaq also Verna's SX interior was REALLY hard to ignore it's way better than my kushaq.
Brother I am an owner of Ford Ecosport with 1.0L Ecoboost engine which was launched in India at a time when people didn't knew jack about Turbo engines. With 125PS of pure power many people won't be able to get that feel and thump in any other NA car. I Can understand your concern and pain. Ford unfortunately left in 2021 by giving these same statements. Sooner or later VW will exit India or have to overhaul their strategy from scratch. I was planning to go for VW Virtus 1.5TSI but now I have to be on wait and watch mode. Fingers crossed.
I today talked to vw , they are now getting special training for indian market and they are going to stay in Indian market and launch more cars , you can buy virtus , they are not going anywhere
Good points. But over-engineered was not a right word from them. Engenerring just tries to solves a problem and it keeps on improving over time. We do need engineered products not just in terms of engine but a good mix of all the things at right price. For example rear seat for middle passenger is too bad for longer journey without proper leg space. So if you have a family of 5 why would you consider it. BIG POINT. There are many including sunroof , cruise control, mileage etc which also requires proper engineering which people are looking for.
90% of the people are in awe of German engineering not because it's their own assessment or they have gauged their superiority themselves but we have been conditioned from very beginning to consider their engineering prowess extra extra ordinary.
If a brand can't compromise on Safety, structural rigidity or engines then it failed to crack the indian market.. Those are on the top 5 position are the example of either bad engines or poor safety..But covered everything with either features or engines or reach,resale etc it's a fact that we can't deny
@@Vajantara Mahindra is actually the closest one to VW. The electricals in Mahindras are less reliable than in a VW though. But engines, handling and safety are close. Own a Virtus and an XUV300. VW is ahead in its engineering definitely!
Also this is a scary news, I don't want people to go back to the honda and toyota trash that they sell in India for 20 years ...the same 1.5 crap. VW has given average indian buyer the experience of a powerful car with great dynamics. Honda and toyota have disrespectes the Indian market for a very long time now
Sorry to say Paaji but I’ll never ever recommend VW to anyone and I myself will sell my vento asap if VW collabs with Mahindra … what’s the use of being such a big group if u can’t even make a car less than 15L for India … Moreover keep your overengineered cars with you we don’t want … give us safety and don’t collab with Mahindra … and anyway where’s overengineering? Verna turbo slaps Both virtus and Slavia on drag strip
That’s because Verna is lighter than virtus, isi mein koreans aage hain, by hook or crook aage rehna, but if u are planning to keep car for 15 yrs VW is no match!!
i feel your heart bro. Was a huge of fiat. Owned a tuned punto 90hp. Felt so sad when winded up in India and wrote lengthy email to the company to how recover and strategise etc. but all in wain. I sold punto after a crash and bought a Jetta 2.0 DSG, what a machine. I sincerely hope VW thrive and dont exit India. I think our government is pushing too much with bs6 and taxing.
I & a lot of people like me would love to buy Polo if it's relaunched. VW & Skoda must realise that people in India are crazy for features. Polo must be relaunched with some added features.
What an hypocritic statement by Skoda's CEO. He claims the cars that were sold in India were Over engineered. How does one find so many misses in an overengineered car? Pathetic AC (Especially since its claimed the 2.0 cars are developed specifically for India) Power Window failures EPC errors DSG horrors Pathetic customer service Dealers who could win the cheaters gold medals LED DRL failures (Yellowing of DRLs) ABS brake sensors, which despite being over-engineered seem to fail every 6 months Rattles all over (2.0 cars) Reliability concerns on almost everything in the car I would qualify a Ecosport/Innova Crysta/Endeavour as something over engineered. None of the Skoda/VW cars for me, including their past cars. Can't imagine how every other adequately or under-engineered brand manufacturers seemingly don't have reliability issues like these. *shrugs* VW-Skoda should have continued serving niche segments with quality products. If they want to become another mass-market brand, they are already losing. They themselves admit they will not try to become another MSIL but contradict their own statement with an "over-engineered" buzz word. VW 2.0 cars are nowhere near their predecessor despite costing twice the money.If Skoda and VW truly want to capture the Indian market or increase sales, they should focus on delivering the same quality as the Vento/Rapid in the segment. Producing cheaper, lower-quality cars will only take them further down. The Virtus could have seen more success if it had retained the Vento's quality.
Ya say the same for Tata Mahindra etc where there cars that reach 30lakhs mark gives soo many issues after delivery they stopped in middle of road rusting etc . And let me tell you what the CEO meant by over engineering is VW cars chassis is very well balanced the weight distribution is perfect that’s why it’s very stable like a expensive brands , they use fully galvanised body , they use 7 layers paint , they use water based paint which is 3x normal paints , safety is top notch ,engineering is soo good that the car drives like a upper segment car . This is what no Indian have knowledge and Indians deserve shit cars that are just packed with gimmicks and no professional feel comes .
Being a owner of Taigun 1.0MT I can say that it is good car but it is not over engineered car from any angle. All the tech like TSI engine is available as GDI in other brands. Body platform of other brands are also scoring 5 star easily now. What is engineering they are mentioning ?
@@prakashpandey842 you think giving camera quality is a engineering thing ? We are buying a car and its main purpose is to drive and in this category no one is closer to VW this requires a lot of research. These camera and features are all third party sourced things . Give more money and VW will give you all gimmick features too.
I vote Sunder ji for VW India head! You spoke like with so much of pain and hope. Waiting for my Kodiaq now, I am second guessing my booking after they made such statements.
Amazing video. It shows your research and your understanding of the Indian passenger car market and also shows how pained you feel when you express anguish over the missteps taken by VW in India
Well said. I’m having 2015 Polo highline fully satisfied and don’t want to sell will keep it for next 5 years atleast, but now looking for a 7seater between 27-32 lakh budget in VW/Skoda I don’t have options other than taking Hycross /Hector+/ XUV700/ Safari I’m ready to wait for 1-2 years but sad VW/Skoda no plans for launch with that budget 7 seater 😢
Kaafi dino ke baadPaaji bahut saari baatein aapne on point kahi hain....1 imp cheez jispe inhe kaam karna chaiye wo hai customer feedback and they need to knitpick those customers who owned multiple vehicles of their brand in past 10 years and are still owning their 2.0 products......Such customers together can provide them with the best feedback to improve business........And above all they need to work on their after sales and learn from toyota because their after sales service and customer ignorance by dealerships is making the loyal customers switch to other brands too
Very well said. I love cars. I have a Rapid 1.6TDI. Dont feel like selling. But aap ne aise samjhaya hai ke kya bole.. you are just spot on. Keep it up and best of luck.
Great analysis Paaji. I don't even feel like discussing these points over and over again coz I'm fed up of the officials and their decisions at Skoda and VW🤦🏻♂️
I am in the market to buy a hatch or sedan in a budget of 20-25 lakh with Slavia and Virtus being my first 2 choices (since there are no hatches in India worth buying anymore in my budget). Went to test drive Slavia at their dealership today and I am shocked to see how difficult Skoda has made it to buy a relatively simple product. My only requirement was a 1.5 TSI DSG car in white colour (funny that I have to tell that the roof in white car must also be white) with 6 airbags, all 4 disks and analog (needle) dials I got to know that almost all the variants now have black roof. When I told the salesperson that I wanted the body colour and roof colour to be same, he advised me to buy car in black colour itself. :) When all their competitors have moved to all disks, they still have drums at the rear! While we were on the test drive, I asked the sales person about it and he was quick to tell that the company wasnt offering rear disks as drum brakes needed lower maintenance and had longer life than disks. :)) What's with those ugly toy like digital instrument clusters that are so distracting? Please for Gods sake offer dials with needles in top variants as well. (I currently drive a Polo GT TSI 2018 with those beautiful orange needles. Perfect car in every which way one can think of! Such a flickable pocket rocket. Would even spend 20 lakh on it today , if they offer 6 airbags and all 4 disks with everything else being the same) Skoda, Please keep 1 variant for sober class as well. (without that ugly chhapri digital cluster and black roof). Also, ADAS etc isnt required. Make the car all disk sooner than later. I am not buying a car with rear drums in 2024!
Bring sub 4 m SUV, hybrid tech would be an added advantage, features wise panaromic sunroof, ADAS, 360 deg cam. Price bracket - 12L to 20L. No compromise on interior quality and driving dynamics. That’s it.
I can totally relate to you…. I wanted to buy Škoda Kushal 1.5 style lava blue…but unfortunately the variant was unavailable and the price went to around 22 lacks…which was the same for Xuv 700 ax5 diesel…. And looking at this news now I am relived to know I made a good decision at the end going with Mahindra.
If VW really want to increase their sales they have to concentrate on the below points 1. Spares availability in the local market 2. Bringing back polo (7- 10 lakh) 3. Basic to feautristic options or trims availability 4. Competitive pricing and variants 5. Service centres
I almost bought a Rapid/Vento back in late 2020 (but decided to wait for Slavia). I regret not being able to get a vento or a rapid at that time. Those cars felt solid. The new platform is junk. I think this is what we Indians desire the most... beautiful cars full of, mostly, unnecessary features, but lacking reliability, easy maintainability, solid driving, and safety. Toyota, famous for it's reliable engines (and cars overall) doesn't make any sense due to the 10 year old vehicle limit. As, while their cars are costly, they justify their price over a long period of smooth running that they assure. I'm worried about Honda city now. Cheers everyone.
16:03 Very good, it's not very difficult to crack Indian market,, Good video. VW group needs to make ₹7-8Lakh car, so that people would have trust on these cars. When cab drivers starts to use to car, they will give you free of cost marketing cuz Cab driver would never buy a car which is not reliable, high maintenance and low mileage.
Sir, one of your best videos, how wonderfully you have put across VWs and indian sentiment in this video..! Great Analysis and nicely put across. VW should see this video and rectify some mistakes.
I agree with all of your points. I brought Taigun based on looking at your analysis in detailed videos. But there dealers don't have good SOP, Leave cars there dealership, sales person and staff at the dealership don't have the feelgood factor. After-sales services are also not up to the mark. I had a minor accident they took almost 1 month for just the front bumper replacement. AS THEY WERE TAKING TIME DIDN'T PROVIDE ME THE LONER CAR. NOWBROUGHT THE MAHINDRA CAR AS MY PRIMER CAR. I CANT TRUST THEM AS PERIMIER VICHLE IN HOME.
Very fair points put forth. Definitely eliminating Fabia, Polo and TDIs and not giving enough options is the biggest blunder they did! What irks me more is that they fail to crack despite being here for more than 20 years! Indian Top Management needs to be changed ASAP! This whole India 2.0 strategy is fundamentally flawed.
Perfect! Analysis.... No brand continues success without innovation towards requirement Volkswagen should watch the Hyundai and Tata stertgy How they are giving good starting small car to big suv and sedan with all price teg
Skoda rapid 1.0 tsi AT owner here, Fantastic engine, dynamic, efficiency, power, build quality, Can live with the lack of features but service network needs improvement, And I agree with many of your points, I am struggling to find a worthy upgrade in the suv segment, the cars are just too small.
Sunderdeepji, I just came across a video from a channel called Telescope. It is a Chinese automobile channel. There's a video about Tiguan for the Chinese only market. Please check that out. In that video, he talks about how VW always makes the Chinese versions of their cars bigger than global versions because of the expectation of the Chinese customer. It makes perfect sense and good to see that Chinese VW management has understood that so well. I hope the VW India management too has the same level of understanding of Indian customer requirement. In the Chinese Tiguan, it has 100mm more wheelbase and also has multiple touch screen panels in the front! Do let me know your thoughts on that video
Sahi baat kaha aapne, Sunderdeep Bhai. Hum Bharatiyon koo matlab with value for money cars. Hume is baat se zyada koi matlab nahi ki car kitne overengineered hain, kitne high performance hain, sirf matlab hain kaise humare kaam chal jaaye. ISiliye Chevrolet Cruze, Opel Vectra, Maruti Ritz, Maruti SX4, Maruti S-cross, most of the cars by Volkswagen and Skoda, ityadi cars kabhi bikri huye nahi.😢
Well explained bro... But I like Skoda too much I convinced my friend to buy Kushaq and he bought it... Driving Skoda is amazing... But you can't convince everyone as they want to go the same direction as mass go.... I own Venue but next will be Skoda sub4mSUV...This is the clear gap for SKoda and VW they should come up with one car under 10 lakhs....
That's true, my family was looking for a secondary car under 10L and i really wanted to go for skoda, but because of the budget i couldn't even recommend it, if there was polo available in the market, I guess I would have convinced them for that
THE MOST TO THE POINT VIDEO when me and my dad wanted to buy a car....our budget was 12 lakhs and none of the top models of the vw group cars were available
@sunderdeep singh, its not at all about 1ltr or 1.5ltr naturally aspirated, its only about design, look, doesnt look huge. Ill give you my example, i loved Taigun, but only reason i dropped buying it was only only the small look. It doesnt make any statement. Above 45-50 age group they don’t think about that, but me in my 30’s would like to buy a car which looks like a statement, then comes features.
VW can give Polo at Baleno prices and proportions with i20N/altroz racer performance. And start ex showroom of Kushaq/Slavia Base for 9.99Lakh(for tax purposes) With better touch screen to match MG/Citroen base models. That small screen kills the base model. Goodlooking 7-8 inch after market screen costs 10k, they are giving a sad product where cost cutting is apparent. Buyer of the base Kushaq can buy the Brezza for 3 Lakh cheaper. They can buy a better Toyota for the same price. They can buy a better equiped better looking Kia also. A smaller model with similar features gives them the advantage of economies of scale and ability to negotiate with their supplier for bigger models.. MDs of these companies say:"hamne volume game nahi khelna hum premium brand hai" then they say:"sales nahi ho rahi India is poor" The reality is: "India is not for beginners"
Perfect analysis, I would have loved to purchased polo in 2024, and there would be lot of PPL like me even though I could spend 1 or 2 lakhs more. But sad for PPL like me who loved polo. Now the legend is gone.
True Service and more segments In 17 years first time felt I am in service center for my car service. Experience was really unpleasant. Cars are good but not everyone want so it will be difficult.
Video is on point. Perfect analysis. India 2.0 should have been focused on building a cost effective sub 4m platform for India with which they could have continued Polo and a Nexon/Brezza competition. Taigun should have been much bigger. If these were adressed, just these, they would have been in a far better position. Today they dont have a single car which sells more than 3k cars monthly. Sad and pitiable. Looks like VW is destined to fail, purely because of their holier than thou attitude from the beginning. Management of VW India is bringing them down and nobody else!
Virtus is a polo sedan and taigun is a polo suv
@@SuperImbadude not really . Virtus and taigun were specifically designed for countries like India. Very practical cars. But polo was never a fully practical car
@@mandeepsingh9469 check polo sedan, sold in south africa
polo was a flop in sales, so they did not launch it again.
@@techcloud2510 but if today they launch polo with 1.6mpi and 1L tsi against baleno and i20nline, altroz racer ...polo will b a hit
Look at what Toyota did. First they brought Qualis which proved its mettle by being very very reliable and low on maintenance. Then came Etios and Liva. Though they were budget segment, but they became big hit with taxi segment. Toyota then becane synonymous with reliability. Ask any Innova customer. I have heard taxi drivers say, "Saab, 4 lakh kilometer se upar chal gayi hai gaadi". Imagine, 4 lakh + kms and no reliability issues. Just regular maintenance. That's what people want first. Rest all things later.
Spot on!
True. That's why people don't think twice before buying 35 Lacs Innova Hycross or 50Lac Fortuner. There is waiting for more than a year in Hycross
Yep
Yes. But now toyota has changed its strategy and now doesnot offer single car affordable to cab drivers now. any variant of innova is less than 30 lakshs. Toyota rumion tho rebadge of ertiga which is not a good cab car for reasons unknown.
@@SAIPRADEEP070 You are right. Toyota has indeed changed its strategy. They had to. They were on the brink of quitting India when diesel engines of more than a certain capacity were banned (a few years ago). That's when they had to launch a petrol engine in Crysta in order to remain relevant in the Indian market and I think it around that time only when they began thinking of partnering with Suzuki (the world over, not just in India). They discontinued Liva, brought in Glanza. They discontinued Etios but did not bring Ciaz equivalent (which they did in some other countries). Instead they got the Brezza's cousin Urban Cruiser. Though their numbers were not comparable to that of Maruti Suzuki (for Baleno and Brezza), at least they saw increased sales and increased footfall. They realized in time that in a country like India, they need a local partner and even world over 'cause they were struggling in the small car segment.
From that standpoint, VW's decision to look for a local partner is not a bad decision at all. They should just have chosen their words more carefully.
Yes, VAG cars do qualify as being over-engineered. The TSI engine is a gem. Its a hoot to drive when you floor the accelerator while it gives brilliant fuel economy when you are just coasting along. 1.5 TSI comes with cylinder de-activation technology. For as simple as removing the headlight switch completely in 2 seconds to installing it back in 2 seconds is what can be termed as an over-engineering car. There are many more examples which I can mention.
We as a nation can never have VAG cars selling in numbers. VAG can only play in a niche market because we want value for money products. In order to make value for money cars, manufacturers have to cut costs on many fronts which is against the DNA of VAG. If VAG starts making cars similar to Kia/Hyundai or Maruti, then why would I buy VAG cars.
Solution:
1) Make Skoda cheap and affordable and make VW premium or vice-versa.
2) For every model, be it a Slavia or Tiguan, offer Torque Convertor gearbox along with DSG, as it is for many Scandinavia markets.
3) Offer 10yrs/2L kms warranty on DSG gearboxes offered in India. If you can have this warranty for the Chinese market then why not for India.
4) DO NOT ENTER INTO ANY ARRANGEMENTS WITH MAHINDRA. History is filled with instances where they have killed all their partners for whatever reasons. Also, VAG management will never agree for M&M advises. Skoda and VW are strong brands in India.
5) Train your salesmen. They frankly do not even know about the cars that they are selling. A short UA-cam video will give you more information than what you get at showrooms.
Frankly Volkswagen group isn't as strong as it was during Ferdinand Piëch's era which ended in 2018. He could be termed as Steve Jobs of VW Group.
well said and I strongly agree with no . 4
as good an analysis as the main video
@@aneeshkv9477 oh. Spot on…. More warranty. Bring Seat to India and try selling cheaper and better cars without compromising on safety and engineering standards. VW cannot launch alto alternatives. Maintain the standard. Aim for 10l -20 l market with bigger SUVs. Indians think that bigger SUVs have better road presence. King of body roll- Scorpio is sold like hotcakes. Taigun is too tiny to appeal Indian mindset
I am thinking of buying kushaq , is it good ? Or slavia ?
@@kumarsonu6619 Slavia because Sedan has better stability and driving comfort. Moreover, Slavia and Virtus have high ground clearance.
I recommend Volkswagen to appoint @Sunderdeep Singh as independent advisor who has been giving clear message on what we need. Then VW may not require local partner if we have multiple models. Taigun and Kushaq can be called as sub compact SUV or MPV
This is a good idea. VW needs a direct customer feedback and Sunderdeep ji can be a consultant who will give direct feedback.
Correct.... Sundar ji aap VW ke sales advisor hone chahiye
I second you
I completely agree with you. he understand Indian market and where vw is lagging
His expectations are not practical because of the tax system India has and the big problem: Indian mentality of buying a car
Proud owner of Skoda (Rapid) since 2017. Fully satisfied with the car and the service to this day. No car beats Skoda (Slavia now) in this segment.
They should make their spare parts available in the local market, that’s the simple hack to win Indian market they need to crack.
Same mistake was done by Ford also in India .
Even Honda follows same ..
Yeah local mechanic ko dene me darr lagta vw ki cars. Koi ni khol sakta faltu me risk. kon lega market me resale value ni. Upar se Over engineering nahi Less Size is the biggest issue. Smaller size is the main biggest issue indians not buying Kushaq Taigun. Period
@@IamSpidey007 I know mechanics jo na sirf German cars balki they repair Mercedes and BMW cars too.
Yes@@Yatri234 Ford Figo bahut acha product tha par but spare parts sirf service centre pe milne ki wajah se har koi hath nhi daalta.
Honda is also following VW's path. They too appear arrogant with their product lineup. Elevate could have been a game changer with hybrid. Also, the car lacks basic features like TPMS. This is why it is now struggling to sell in Indian market.
Firstly, Honda has not invested 2 billion dollars and they are also exporting well. They are not burning cash, hence fact is, Honda is very profitable company with 3 models in India.
Hondas lineup is trash surviving on city brand for close to three decade . They are done.
crazy idea: VW should collaborate with Honda !! 😂
Honda has Hybrid tech.
Imagine a Taigun Hybrid using Honda tech and Elevate with TSI turbo. 😊
And Taigun with 1.5 v-tech naturally aspirated to keep the cost low.
@@seael2008That would be a dream collab but VW will collab with a local player to help with government contacts and lobbying.
1.5 VTEC instead of 1.0 TSI would be really good.
Honda City with 1.5 TSI.
@@alburaq3290 You are right. They need the right contacts and lobbying. + the desi tag will help a lot. MS is a huge success because the government still has quite a bit of stake in the Maruti Suzuki business. They get all the insider info it seems.
VW lineup have major deficiency in their present lineup :-
1. They don’t have a hatchback in their lineup in order to compete with market Japanese and Korean queen, they should bring back polo or fabia with multiple engine options.
2. They don’t have a fleet vehicle (sedan) in lineup with performance proved CNG powered MPFI engine in order to compete with fleet taxis sales. As turbo charged petrol engines are not economical for taxis.
3. Current lineup is not having CNG powered 1.5L MPFI engine as completion in market is offering with hybrid options and few have diesel options also available. Many consumers require engine efficiency over turbo thrill.
4. Air condition of VW Skoda is not as good as others in same segment.
5. Genuine Spare parts are difficult in procuring in aftermarket
Very well said. I was in the market for 15+ car and was serious about Skoda/VW but then i realized after spending 15-18 lakhs, i will get 10-12 mileage on a fuel whose prices would only increase. If they had sub-4m suv with 12-15 range, those would have been more affordable as a customer. Not everyone is earning 30-40 lpa but everyone dreams about owning a big car, India is going through premiumization, iPhones have become common, there are more 12+ lakh cars on roads and despite all these signs, VW and Skoda, the most aspirational brands for average Indian, they still not have been able to crack the market, it's their only fault, saying we over-engineered cars for Indian market is simple disrespectful.
I am getting a mileage of 7
they need hybrid ...
@@clashingwithwhitewalker4405lucky seven eh 😂,trust me been there done that n sold that too huhu ❤
@@clashingwithwhitewalker4405 THALA for a reason 😄😄
You'll get good mileage with compromised safety lol
I Don't want VW grp to collab with MAHINDRA. Act on proper market research on requirement and emotion of customer. Well said Sunderdeep ji, Hope this reaches the management and they share this to Germany.
They are European bro... They are failing because of their attitude... They try to be premium and big... They won't ever understand how Indian customers think... They just want to push what they have but never work on what Indian customers want...
According to them countries like India are still a 3rd world country...
It's not just in case... Look at FMCG... HUL/UL is selling the same brands both market but here they use palm oil and there they use a good quality refined oil... Here they'll use Maida, there they'll use fibre rich foods...
Similarly they create a low quality engine in a design that they have been selling in their country and try to fool Indian customers... Just to match the prices that competitors are selling... These engines are so compromised as the prices they fall in...
Lol. You barely know what mahindra is capable off!
Mahindra’s SUV are some of top SUVs you would see in the world. Mahindra is kinda low cost toyota to world!
@@shreyass9922 Nice joke, have owned their XUV700, SCORPIO N. Ride, handling and build is no where close to the KAROQ. experienced poor after with Mahindra. I may be biased but M&M can't be compared with VW.
@@sutlibumok haa bhai tu bohot bada wala driver hai 😂😂😂
@@sutlibum..i agree to ur points..... Mahindra is ok for cars like Bolero 😊😊
Again the loyal VW enthusiast will suffer who invested in VW cars despite compromising on features, presence, service issues.
I fear that due to this CEO comment July sales might plummet to below 1K.
A sad Day!
I agree
Bro Over engineering nahi Less Size is the biggest issue. Smaller size is the main biggest issue indians not buying Kushaq Taigun. Period
I can totally relate to your point at 11:00. I am that papa, i had shortlisted VW Virtus and Kia Seltos. My heart really wanted Virtus but it didn't appeal to my family. Nail in the coffin was the AC in 1.0 model.
When my family sat in seltos, AC was a chiller, coupled with a panaromic sunroof. Top notch fit and finish. I knew I had no choice but to go with seltos comprising on safety and performance.
We Indians are emotional people. We want best bang for our buck.
My insta/youtube feed is still full of Virtus. I keep crushing over it. But news like this kills that enthusiasm I have for VW.
I really felt they were nearing success in India. I so wish they remain solo rather than becoming a redbadged Maruti for Toyota.
Bro I am also in the exact same position 😭😭😭
Arey but family ki safety kaun compromise karta hai😮
But if have to convince ur family safety standout first .....
Shd have gone with zs ev or Nexon ev
@@GreenDriveIndiawhy though?
Skoda’s CEO also said that ‘over-engineering’ was a misstep for the Indian car market in the past and its new lineup, specifically the compact SUV that’s coming by March 2025, is set to change that. “We have a lot of lessons learnt in the Indian market. Often we build (a) car according to our own expectations. They tend to be over-engineered. And that comes at a price tag. And of course that's something that weakens your competitive position,” he said.
He added that the company needs to learn and be aware of the sweet spot. "That's what we're after. We want to build the cars that customers in India are willing to pay for. And this is a lesson we continuously need to learn. Our price position versus competition is very ambitious. The idea is to provide a car that's even better than what's typically being catered to, in that segment," he said.( Autocar )
Isn't this part to worry about quality issues now ?
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a company that spent $2B is not stupid to not research well. thats impossible. It was their sheer ego that damaged them, plus the babudom they must have suffered - no one telling the truth to germans while their local tema here was focussed on bonuses and promotions.
Just make the car bigger.. taigun and kushaq dismal dimensions is one of the biggest factor why it's not selling much. It was a no brainer.
Over engineered is a disrespect for Indians. And I dont understand why a lot of people abuse indian people for not making the right choices for car. Its true that we value features a lot but isn't the same brand offering hell lot of features with newer models in europe?These brands including koreans still treat us as a 3rd grade country. Audi is also struggling here despite of giving more discount whereas bmw merc doing fine. These guys will learn lessons once ev chinese manufacturers eat their pie worldwide. Hyundai and kia card doing great in safety in euro ncap but indin versions are not doing great. Sometime I dont even trust gncap. Most of the people dont even know that earlier they were only testing frontal crash. They updated the test with side impact and all of a sudden tata vw skoda started offering 6 airbags as standard. People should smell these hacks😂
This video needs to reach VW India group !
Valid analysis , tdi alone would have almost tripled the sales imo… Though i am happy i have both taigun and virtus gt ❤
Perfect analysis sir. vw india has to listen what customer want....just like-
1) polo sub 4meter suv 1.2 mpi, 1.0 tsi (8.99-14.99)price or polo premium hatchback with 1.2 mpi , 1.0 tsi (8.10 to 11.99)price range. (manual ,cvt ,torque cov)(cng)
2) sedan 1.5 mpi 1.5 tsi (12.99-20)price range (manual ,cvt ,torque cov)
3)proper midsize suv creta/seltos rival or facelift and bigger size taigun with 1.5 mpi , 1.5tsi , 1.5 tdi with adblue dpf (manual , cvt, torquecov) (13.50 to 21.99)price range
4) 7 seater mpv or suv with 1.5 mpi,1.5 tsi , 1.5 tdi dpf adblue(manual , cvt, torquecov) (16.99 to 24.99)price range
note -6 six airbag std, all disc, spacious cabin, bigger Road presence , and most extra and important point - easy to modification just like creta parts available in aftermarket . people buy creta ex varient and convert into creta sx topline varient .. coupler to coupler part change and boom top model ready. thank you🙃
Biggest problem with these brands is they don't listen to the customers
Same with Honda, they have launched the Elevate but without panoramic sunroof, ventilated seats,no multiple engine options,no features,no crash test rating etc resulting sudden decrease in the sales..I talked with one dealer,he said he has 2023 stock.. people aren't even considering the Elevate because of better feature loaded options,engines options available and now they have provided standard 6 Airbags, 3 point seatbelts etc from base variant but they are waiting to clear the existing stock then they will start the production of new variant with added safety features..
I was a honda fan but now stopped supporting them because what the use when they aren't listening to the customer who is considered as a KING👑 and the top officials are from japan and how they will understand the Indian market which itself is very difficult to crack.. VW's Mr Guptaji is trying very hard from his side but it's always the headquarter which handles every decision..
In future,we will be left with 4-5 brands only and we will see their monopoly.
Firstly, Honda has not invested 2 billion dollars and they are also exporting well. They are not burning cash, hence fact is, Honda is very profitable company with 3 models in India.
@@saurabhshinoda ther were in losses for 2-3 consecutive years till 2021..But revised their strategy and from 2022,they are making good profits..No company can do business in losses
@@saurabhshinoda FYI Honda has also invested more than 2 billion euros ie 18500 CR since 1998.
Search on Google..
@@saurabhshinodaFYI,Honda has also invested more than 2 billion dollars in India ie 18500 CR since 1998
@Saahilll almost couple of years back, none of the auto OEM have put 2 billion dollars like VW/Skoda have as 2.0.
Agreed with all the points. Dil ki baat boldi Sir ji. And I can't beleive I am stating this today..For my family car I am inclined towards buying a Creta N Line over the Vag twins. Currently driving a 1.5 tdi stage 1 tuned Polo. I wish VW learn soon from these points. For God's sake we don't want another exit. Indeed a sad scenario.
As a Taigun owner, I've observed few more things in the mid-range variants compared to similarly priced competitors. In addition to its size, road presence, and underperforming AC, it lacks features like push-button start, LED lights, and a sunroof, all that are available in similarly priced seltos, creta!! Furthermore, the backseat is narrow and can't comfortably accommodate five passengers like Creta and Seltos.
which version of Taigun you have brother... I have push button start, sunroof, led lights, cornering lights... not sure
@@travelraw5788He is talking about "Mid range variants" not the top models
@@Adwatism see the basic common sense is missing with people nowadays in India and its growing .. he should have mentioned the model, price and then compared the features with other manufacturers...
@@travelraw5788 Lmao he is absolutely right didnt u read his comment properly....Vw only offer 3 variants whereas other manufacturers offer many variant with different features
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Very Very Right !! Every word jo apne kaha woh bilkul Sahi hai… VW / Skoda ko apka yeh Video dekhna chahiye!! Apne sab kuch sahi bataya hai aur sahi guide kiya hai.. 🙏 .
mild hybrid especially 48V eTSI on the 1 liter engine will inprove the city mileage of Skoda vehicles
this shuld have been a no brainer when they decided to drop diesels especially with 2.0 strategy Slavia n Kushaq
The one thing they should first change is to eliminate the turbo engines and bring NA 4cylinder engines.I've always said Turbo engines are not meant for Indian market due to its various drawbacks.If you are only focussing on turbo engines you cannot target the masses.
1.Eliminate the turbo engines and bring NA 4 cylinder engines but yes u can keep turbo options also.
2. Increase size of vehicles.
3.Improve service availability.
4. Invest in marketing
Increase size
Maybe 1 inch bigger than creta
Because of size only it suffered
We Indians want bigger size
In fact current Kushaq size is good for city
Yea bcuz Vw provides 1.6 L MPFI Petrol engines in their Virtus which they sell in Latin America
@@cartech.4011 not elimate but make lowest non-turbo variant segment also.
size of vehicle - many bought taigun/kushaq for its compact size - who lives in dense cities. Adding L version or a different category car makes more sense.
The quality they provide , and their engineering with lot of taxes makes it very difficult to make affordable cars for VW/Skoda.
Even if one single feature is missing in car (that may not even be useful) , people in India dont buy that car , because majority in India is not worried about quality, driving dynamics , driving pleasure , safety.
All they want is Features.
And some brands in India has ruined our customer demand portfolio by giving then Plethora of features , diverting customers attention from handling,braking,safety etc etc.
VW,Ford,Skoda and Jeep they are/were here to manufacturing cars for export, selling cars here is just a by product.Thats the reason their models are aligned both for India and Global market.
Sunderdeep, you are bang on. I am an owner of this family of car and I totally agree with you. Another few years and this group is going to fold up in India.
Yes, unlike Ford and Chevrolet 😢
Spot on !!!!
They really need a STRONG feedback system for INDIA.
Feedback lete kahan hain paaji ye karte toh apne mann ki hain
Being a tech entrepreneur myself, i truly value over engineering, innovation and required product updates. I waited five months, from January to May 2024, for Skoda or VW to launch any facelift or updates such as ADAS, a better 360 camera, a dashcam, or improved interior, seats and overall comfort. But they just changed the color and kept launching the same car repeatedly without any significant changes. I am buying a car in 2024, so why would I choose the same old model made back in 2021? Then being angry i bought Creta N Line N10 DCT, priced at 24.40 Lakhs and my game is over for VW. Ps. Creta N Line is beast.
No one in their right minds will consider Taigun or Kushaq over Creta Nline just because of a little better steering feedback and better handling.. N line is a good handler in its own right and is far better in terms of fit and finish
I think count down has started for VW like Ford and Chevrolet. It's very sad
If VW launch Polo GT again in price bracket of 8 lac to 10 lac. Definitely the figure of sale increase by 10,000 units per month.
No hatchback
No proper suv
No CNG car
No hybrid
only faltugiri and blaming India market. looks like that $2B is also a fake number. I did not see any good car from VW yet matching what their global brand recognition is. just putting poor version of their known cars.
No diesel car
No 4 miter suv
No 7 siter
No Electric car
No service center
No risell well you
Main reason is they stop producing hatchback like polo. If they bring back polo with diesel engine then it will boost the sale
@@techcloud2510 Lamborghini Urus is what you are looking for from VW
VW should not partner with desi local brand because of a very poor record of partnership..jinse partner kiya tha wo chala gya india se..
Also In the engineering of 7∅∅,they have used ford for each and everything as making a car like 7∅∅ from ground level wouldn't be possible for a desi local brand.Even ford's version of 7∅∅ was planned but didn't happen..
They will eat all technology,R&D of vw and use it in their cars & will break the JV.
Desi local brands don't want tax cuts on hybrid cars because they don't have hybrid technology and they opposed it on Japanese OEM's proposal to the govt to reduce the taxes from 43% to 15-20%..This would have increased the chances of more investment, localisation of hybrid technology in India but again desi local brands don't want it.. I'm pissed off from that day..
Government is taking too much tax and these local brands are also doing harm to Indian consumers!!!
I didnt see any better comment but this is just the perfect analysis .
Yes Mahindra ( a desi local brand ) is not a good partner in each and every crucial aspect .
They ditched their own partner ( ford ) and used them for engineering of their vehicle .
I hate mahindra for their lack of sensitivity to everything be it user experience , engine durability .
Alas , i dont want Vw ( a global giant ) to parter up with mahindra .
Or else going to buy one of their cars before this partnership .
Very rightly said about Ford's stolen technology and then ditched Ford. Come on customers you got to read this or at least share this guy's comment as far and wide as possible. Every car owners and future owners has to know this.
On point
As per some reports, Ford version of the XUV7OO was much more superior than the XUV7OO itself.
I highly agree with you. Their cars are engineered at its best and they feel very good. But the thing is they only offer is turbo petrol engines instead of NA engines which they should offer this option for the buyers who don't want to go with turbo engines. Tata, Mahindra, Maruti Suzuki, Hyundai they offer so much options and at different price brackets. This is what is missing from VW and Skoda. They are not offering hatchbacks, compact sedans, which VW tried with Ameo but it felt like Polo with boot at the rear, but didn't succeed because it looked awkward.
VW and Skoda should travel India properly and listen to customers very well what customers needed, or better they consult with brands like, Hyundai, Kia, Tata and Mahindra who have so many options at variety of prices which caters customers better with more variants, engine and gearbox combos. This is where it gets very challenging for VW and Skoda as they like to maintain the top notch quality and cannot compromise for Indian market.
Like other brands like Tata, Mahindra, Hyundai and Kia, they should offer an MPV, Compact SUV, 7 seater SUVs, compact sedans, premium hatchbacks etc. with NA and turbo engines of small and large capacity, manual and automatics, petrol, diesel, mild-hybrid, CNG as well as have larger network instead of having network in select places where they feel they are capable of buying a well-engineered vehicle.
But there is no getting away from the fact that they'll not leave India because they find this a mature market and what these two Germans need is a lot of exploration in the market, take a look at each example of vehicles being offered for the customers.
VW taxi on the road will be the end of brand imagery.
They should go the Bajaj x Triumph way. The bike still feels 100% Triumph
Taxi can be 7 seater similar to HyCross too. Not saying we should compete with Aura Dzire.
Toyota is still a strong and beloved brand despite selling taxis.
Taxis tell you that these cars are reliable, easy to maintain and no headache ownership. VW would be lucky to have these qualities.
@@alburaq3290absolutely true. There was an article in team bhp that cars which are taxis are actually reliable. I don't know what happened to Tata now, but when we bought their Indica and Manza, it served us with no issues whatsoever. In WB I see Bolts and Manzas running around as taxis
@@SunderdeepSingh paaji, vw can make taxi like hycross but can it match the reliability of Toyota hycross? Of course not.
@@alburaq3290 I agree but no longer an aspiration
You are spot on. I have been waiting for a Polo in some form, nothing has happened. Still hanging on to my old Polo. Some cool features like opening the windows from outside were removed in Taigun and Virtus citing chip shortage. It has still not come. 6 air bags should have been made the standard when Taigun and Virtus launched.
They are working their level best to disappoint you. They will probably be bringing out a crossover with the name Polo 🤡
Imho the issue is not catering the 10-12 lakh bracket customers and having a very small line up of only 3 cars in which 1 is a lot expensive for the middle class buyer. Really cannot understand the fact that if a sub 4 meter skoda suv can be made then why not a sub 4 meter hatchback can be developed by the VW group. My friend drove our Taigun and convinced his father to go for the same. Only when people will drive and realise themselves how good the cars are only then they will buy them and in order to so they need to cater the lower segment and make them realise how good the cars are , increasing people’s confidence in the brand which will then also allow them to sell their expensive models in the future as well to the same customer
I'm still very satisfied with my Kushaq. Alot of friends also told me that I should've gotten creta as a first car. Also I could agree to the 2 points that you mentioned. I was going to buy virtus 1.0 but my parents told me to get kushaq also Verna's SX interior was REALLY hard to ignore it's way better than my kushaq.
Brother I am an owner of Ford Ecosport with 1.0L Ecoboost engine which was launched in India at a time when people didn't knew jack about Turbo engines. With 125PS of pure power many people won't be able to get that feel and thump in any other NA car. I Can understand your concern and pain. Ford unfortunately left in 2021 by giving these same statements. Sooner or later VW will exit India or have to overhaul their strategy from scratch. I was planning to go for VW Virtus 1.5TSI but now I have to be on wait and watch mode. Fingers crossed.
I today talked to vw , they are now getting special training for indian market and they are going to stay in Indian market and launch more cars , you can buy virtus , they are not going anywhere
@@manavmadan9514Are you sure brother. I am fearing as I literally wrestled with my father to buy Slavia over City
Looks like management is either split or careless. Openly saying of partnership with MnM is blunder and mater of anguish for VW customers.
@@saumabhobagchi5547 just be careful bro. Ford said the same thing
@@originalguy4535 it's already been 1.5 years since I bought the slavia
Kushaq headlight - 20,000
Creta - 5,000
Kushaq bumper -22,000
Creta - 4,500
Again vw say indians are not buying vw cars.
Correction 27000 hai bhai kushaq ke headlights
25000 bro recently paid 😂
@@momentumtrader5722 lol😂😂
Creta 2024 SX headlight for 5000/-
Kya phooonk ke aaye ho bhai?
Mahindra Bolero headlight 500/-
I think they have to change the size of Taigun especially width. I fully agree with you. You are 100 % right
Looking at the next quarter of sales, we know how much the "Over Engineered Cars in India" remarks will backfire
Paaji ne education of the Indian youths and others ko leke bhi bola.. awesome loved it...
Good points. But over-engineered was not a right word from them. Engenerring just tries to solves a problem and it keeps on improving over time. We do need engineered products not just in terms of engine but a good mix of all the things at right price. For example rear seat for middle passenger is too bad for longer journey without proper leg space. So if you have a family of 5 why would you consider it. BIG POINT. There are many including sunroof , cruise control, mileage etc which also requires proper engineering which people are looking for.
90% of the people are in awe of German engineering not because it's their own assessment or they have gauged their superiority themselves but we have been conditioned from very beginning to consider their engineering prowess extra extra ordinary.
If a brand can't compromise on Safety, structural rigidity or engines then it failed to crack the indian market..
Those are on the top 5 position are the example of either bad engines or poor safety..But covered everything with either features or engines or reach,resale etc
it's a fact that we can't deny
What about mahindra? They tick all the boxes
@@Vajantara Mahindra is actually the closest one to VW. The electricals in Mahindras are less reliable than in a VW though. But engines, handling and safety are close. Own a Virtus and an XUV300. VW is ahead in its engineering definitely!
Toyota and Mahindra tick all those boxes and they're doing very well in India.
भाई आपका knolege खूब बडिया हे.. आपको vw में meneging directer होणा चाहिये.. मुझे बेहद अच्छा लगा बहुत बडिया... 🙏🏻🙏🏻💐
Also this is a scary news, I don't want people to go back to the honda and toyota trash that they sell in India for 20 years ...the same 1.5 crap. VW has given average indian buyer the experience of a powerful car with great dynamics. Honda and toyota have disrespectes the Indian market for a very long time now
I am driving VW Taigun since December 2023 and i am loving the product… ❤❤❤
Sorry to say Paaji but I’ll never ever recommend VW to anyone and I myself will sell my vento asap if VW collabs with Mahindra … what’s the use of being such a big group if u can’t even make a car less than 15L for India … Moreover keep your overengineered cars with you we don’t want … give us safety and don’t collab with Mahindra … and anyway where’s overengineering? Verna turbo slaps Both virtus and Slavia on drag strip
Bro verna's engine is tuned on maximum performance 😂
@@ronitluwarch9635haan agar hui bhi tune to what stopped vw from tuning to their best😏
Chal korean fanboy. Creta le tu.
Vw virtus sells more than verna
That’s because Verna is lighter than virtus, isi mein koreans aage hain, by hook or crook aage rehna, but if u are planning to keep car for 15 yrs VW is no match!!
i feel your heart bro. Was a huge of fiat. Owned a tuned punto 90hp. Felt so sad when winded up in India and wrote lengthy email to the company to how recover and strategise etc. but all in wain. I sold punto after a crash and bought a Jetta 2.0 DSG, what a machine. I sincerely hope VW thrive and dont exit India. I think our government is pushing too much with bs6 and taxing.
Why POLO was discontinued in India ? This was VW's big mistake. We want a Sub 4 meter VW Sedan also.
I & a lot of people like me would love to buy Polo if it's relaunched. VW & Skoda must realise that people in India are crazy for features. Polo must be relaunched with some added features.
@@mukundagrawal9585 True 👍,
Personally own a kushaq and 100% satisfied but Diesel option would have been the game changer for these Skoda vw companies
What an hypocritic statement by Skoda's CEO. He claims the cars that were sold in India were Over engineered. How does one find so many misses in an overengineered car?
Pathetic AC (Especially since its claimed the 2.0 cars are developed specifically for India)
Power Window failures
EPC errors
DSG horrors
Pathetic customer service
Dealers who could win the cheaters gold medals
LED DRL failures (Yellowing of DRLs)
ABS brake sensors, which despite being over-engineered seem to fail every 6 months
Rattles all over (2.0 cars)
Reliability concerns on almost everything in the car
I would qualify a Ecosport/Innova Crysta/Endeavour as something over engineered. None of the Skoda/VW cars for me, including their past cars.
Can't imagine how every other adequately or under-engineered brand manufacturers seemingly don't have reliability issues like these. *shrugs*
VW-Skoda should have continued serving niche segments with quality products. If they want to become another mass-market brand, they are already losing. They themselves admit they will not try to become another MSIL but contradict their own statement with an "over-engineered" buzz word.
VW 2.0 cars are nowhere near their predecessor despite costing twice the money.If Skoda and VW truly want to capture the Indian market or increase sales, they should focus on delivering the same quality as the Vento/Rapid in the segment. Producing cheaper, lower-quality cars will only take them further down. The Virtus could have seen more success if it had retained the Vento's quality.
Fine analysis, the yellow drl thing issue is with many brands whichever has tube led instead of series of small led bubls
Ya say the same for Tata Mahindra etc where there cars that reach 30lakhs mark gives soo many issues after delivery they stopped in middle of road rusting etc .
And let me tell you what the CEO meant by over engineering is VW cars chassis is very well balanced the weight distribution is perfect that’s why it’s very stable like a expensive brands , they use fully galvanised body , they use 7 layers paint , they use water based paint which is 3x normal paints , safety is top notch ,engineering is soo good that the car drives like a upper segment car . This is what no Indian have knowledge and Indians deserve shit cars that are just packed with gimmicks and no professional feel comes .
Being a owner of Taigun 1.0MT I can say that it is good car but it is not over engineered car from any angle. All the tech like TSI engine is available as GDI in other brands. Body platform of other brands are also scoring 5 star easily now.
What is engineering they are mentioning ?
U missed the rear camera quality of over engineered car😅
@@prakashpandey842 you think giving camera quality is a engineering thing ? We are buying a car and its main purpose is to drive and in this category no one is closer to VW this requires a lot of research. These camera and features are all third party sourced things . Give more money and VW will give you all gimmick features too.
I vote Sunder ji for VW India head! You spoke like with so much of pain and hope. Waiting for my Kodiaq now, I am second guessing my booking after they made such statements.
I buy Skoda Kushaq 7 days ago and I m happy
Congratulations, i think, you not bought top model, if its top model then feel like overspending for me.
Congratulations. They are still great cars. Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise or let you doubt your decision.
@@SujitJadhavIN 2nd top
@@sumansaha65 A good car :)
Amazing video. It shows your research and your understanding of the Indian passenger car market and also shows how pained you feel when you express anguish over the missteps taken by VW in India
🙌🙏
VW is over engineered that they got caught in diesel gate scandal😂🤣.
8:40 superb lines
Agar polo nai le pate .. toh Troc kaise lete .. kaise age k products lete ...
Vw must change their strategy
Sir ji , Whatever You say the Class of VW & Skoda is Apart.
Very Safe and Gracious Cars 👍
Well said.
I’m having 2015 Polo highline fully satisfied and don’t want to sell will keep it for next 5 years atleast, but now looking for a 7seater between 27-32 lakh budget in VW/Skoda
I don’t have options other than taking Hycross /Hector+/ XUV700/ Safari
I’m ready to wait for 1-2 years but sad VW/Skoda no plans for launch with that budget 7 seater 😢
Customer is king, simply give what customer needs..
Kaafi dino ke baadPaaji bahut saari baatein aapne on point kahi hain....1 imp cheez jispe inhe kaam karna chaiye wo hai customer feedback and they need to knitpick those customers who owned multiple vehicles of their brand in past 10 years and are still owning their 2.0 products......Such customers together can provide them with the best feedback to improve business........And above all they need to work on their after sales and learn from toyota because their after sales service and customer ignorance by dealerships is making the loyal customers switch to other brands too
Paaji ek baari mail ka reply krdo pls....
Very well said. I love cars. I have a Rapid 1.6TDI. Dont feel like selling. But aap ne aise samjhaya hai ke kya bole.. you are just spot on. Keep it up and best of luck.
Great analysis Paaji. I don't even feel like discussing these points over and over again coz I'm fed up of the officials and their decisions at Skoda and VW🤦🏻♂️
agree
I am in the market to buy a hatch or sedan in a budget of 20-25 lakh with Slavia and Virtus being my first 2 choices (since there are no hatches in India worth buying anymore in my budget). Went to test drive Slavia at their dealership today and I am shocked to see how difficult Skoda has made it to buy a relatively simple product. My only requirement was a 1.5 TSI DSG car in white colour (funny that I have to tell that the roof in white car must also be white) with 6 airbags, all 4 disks and analog (needle) dials
I got to know that almost all the variants now have black roof. When I told the salesperson that I wanted the body colour and roof colour to be same, he advised me to buy car in black colour itself. :)
When all their competitors have moved to all disks, they still have drums at the rear! While we were on the test drive, I asked the sales person about it and he was quick to tell that the company wasnt offering rear disks as drum brakes needed lower maintenance and had longer life than disks. :))
What's with those ugly toy like digital instrument clusters that are so distracting? Please for Gods sake offer dials with needles in top variants as well. (I currently drive a Polo GT TSI 2018 with those beautiful orange needles. Perfect car in every which way one can think of! Such a flickable pocket rocket. Would even spend 20 lakh on it today , if they offer 6 airbags and all 4 disks with everything else being the same)
Skoda, Please keep 1 variant for sober class as well. (without that ugly chhapri digital cluster and black roof). Also, ADAS etc isnt required. Make the car all disk sooner than later. I am not buying a car with rear drums in 2024!
Bring sub 4 m SUV, hybrid tech would be an added advantage, features wise panaromic sunroof, ADAS, 360 deg cam. Price bracket - 12L to 20L. No compromise on interior quality and driving dynamics. That’s it.
I can totally relate to you…. I wanted to buy Škoda Kushal 1.5 style lava blue…but unfortunately the variant was unavailable and the price went to around 22 lacks…which was the same for Xuv 700 ax5 diesel…. And looking at this news now I am relived to know I made a good decision at the end going with Mahindra.
If VW really want to increase their sales they have to concentrate on the below points
1. Spares availability in the local market
2. Bringing back polo (7- 10 lakh)
3. Basic to feautristic options or trims availability
4. Competitive pricing and variants
5. Service centres
Polo at 7lakhs lol
I almost bought a Rapid/Vento back in late 2020 (but decided to wait for Slavia). I regret not being able to get a vento or a rapid at that time. Those cars felt solid. The new platform is junk. I think this is what we Indians desire the most... beautiful cars full of, mostly, unnecessary features, but lacking reliability, easy maintainability, solid driving, and safety.
Toyota, famous for it's reliable engines (and cars overall) doesn't make any sense due to the 10 year old vehicle limit. As, while their cars are costly, they justify their price over a long period of smooth running that they assure. I'm worried about Honda city now.
Cheers everyone.
Super Paji..width of Taigun / KUSHAQ is narrow…they at least have car where 3rd person be comfortable in back seat…they should bring VW THARU
Oooo paji you are 100 times knowledgable then VW design and marketing team
100% true . Though being super sophisticated and well engineered, they are lagging behind . Need to introduce diesel and hybrid fuel options also .
16:03 Very good, it's not very difficult to crack Indian market,,
Good video.
VW group needs to make ₹7-8Lakh car, so that people would have trust on these cars.
When cab drivers starts to use to car, they will give you free of cost marketing cuz Cab driver would never buy a car which is not reliable, high maintenance and low mileage.
Sir, one of your best videos, how wonderfully you have put across VWs and indian sentiment in this video..! Great Analysis and nicely put across. VW should see this video and rectify some mistakes.
I agree with all of your points. I brought Taigun based on looking at your analysis in detailed videos. But there dealers don't have good SOP, Leave cars there dealership, sales person and staff at the dealership don't have the feelgood factor. After-sales services are also not up to the mark. I had a minor accident they took almost 1 month for just the front bumper replacement. AS THEY WERE TAKING TIME DIDN'T PROVIDE ME THE LONER CAR. NOWBROUGHT THE MAHINDRA CAR AS MY PRIMER CAR. I CANT TRUST THEM AS PERIMIER VICHLE IN HOME.
Very fair points put forth. Definitely eliminating Fabia, Polo and TDIs and not giving enough options is the biggest blunder they did! What irks me more is that they fail to crack despite being here for more than 20 years! Indian Top Management needs to be changed ASAP! This whole India 2.0 strategy is fundamentally flawed.
Friend, this is your best video :) awesome understanding of Indian customers' mindset
Perfect! Analysis.... No brand continues success without innovation towards requirement
Volkswagen should watch the Hyundai and Tata stertgy
How they are giving good starting small car to big suv and sedan with all price teg
Absolutaly agree with as a vento owner ... I am in plan to buy new car but not get multiple option like other brand
all these languages but bai chose to speak fact. Every word well thought and backed up with perfect reasoning. great video
What a analysis....!.
Tremendous points
Hope this video is learnt by vw officials properly. Very well stated Paaji.
Skoda rapid 1.0 tsi AT owner here,
Fantastic engine, dynamic, efficiency, power, build quality,
Can live with the lack of features but service network needs improvement,
And I agree with many of your points,
I am struggling to find a worthy upgrade in the suv segment, the cars are just too small.
Sunderdeepji, I just came across a video from a channel called Telescope. It is a Chinese automobile channel. There's a video about Tiguan for the Chinese only market. Please check that out. In that video, he talks about how VW always makes the Chinese versions of their cars bigger than global versions because of the expectation of the Chinese customer. It makes perfect sense and good to see that Chinese VW management has understood that so well. I hope the VW India management too has the same level of understanding of Indian customer requirement. In the Chinese Tiguan, it has 100mm more wheelbase and also has multiple touch screen panels in the front! Do let me know your thoughts on that video
Well said, I think most of the VW & Škoda lovers feels the same way…. Hope they work to improve their sale no’s…. And don’t leave us like Ford.
Sahi baat kaha aapne, Sunderdeep Bhai.
Hum Bharatiyon koo matlab with value for money cars. Hume is baat se zyada koi matlab nahi ki car kitne overengineered hain, kitne high performance hain, sirf matlab hain kaise humare kaam chal jaaye. ISiliye Chevrolet Cruze, Opel Vectra, Maruti Ritz, Maruti SX4, Maruti S-cross, most of the cars by Volkswagen and Skoda, ityadi cars kabhi bikri huye nahi.😢
well said, under 12 lakh segment is totally missed by vw and skoda in India. and even 12 lakh + cars from them dont look at par.
Sahi baat hai Bhaisaab
Taigun aur Kushaq choti yaani sub 4 meter lagti hai compact SUV ke hisaab se.
You are spot in comparision one plus vs Apple pro
Well explained bro... But I like Skoda too much I convinced my friend to buy Kushaq and he bought it... Driving Skoda is amazing... But you can't convince everyone as they want to go the same direction as mass go.... I own Venue but next will be Skoda sub4mSUV...This is the clear gap for SKoda and VW they should come up with one car under 10 lakhs....
Nailed it sunderdeep in a very common and simple language
Excellent post Sunderdeep! Honest & practical points!!
That's true, my family was looking for a secondary car under 10L and i really wanted to go for skoda, but because of the budget i couldn't even recommend it, if there was polo available in the market, I guess I would have convinced them for that
THE MOST TO THE POINT VIDEO
when me and my dad wanted to buy a car....our budget was 12 lakhs and none of the top models of the vw group cars were available
Insightful video paaji.. Good this see your honest feedback to VW/Skoda with all the valid points and without mincing any words. 🙌
@sunderdeep singh, its not at all about 1ltr or 1.5ltr naturally aspirated, its only about design, look, doesnt look huge.
Ill give you my example, i loved Taigun, but only reason i dropped buying it was only only the small look. It doesnt make any statement. Above 45-50 age group they don’t think about that, but me in my 30’s would like to buy a car which looks like a statement, then comes features.
VW can give Polo at Baleno prices and proportions with i20N/altroz racer performance. And start ex showroom of Kushaq/Slavia Base for 9.99Lakh(for tax purposes)
With better touch screen to match MG/Citroen base models. That small screen kills the base model. Goodlooking 7-8 inch after market screen costs 10k, they are giving a sad product where cost cutting is apparent.
Buyer of the base Kushaq can buy the Brezza for 3 Lakh cheaper. They can buy a better Toyota for the same price. They can buy a better equiped better looking Kia also.
A smaller model with similar features gives them the advantage of economies of scale and ability to negotiate with their supplier for bigger models..
MDs of these companies say:"hamne volume game nahi khelna hum premium brand hai"
then they say:"sales nahi ho rahi India is poor"
The reality is: "India is not for beginners"
Perfect analysis, I would have loved to purchased polo in 2024, and there would be lot of PPL like me even though I could spend 1 or 2 lakhs more. But sad for PPL like me who loved polo. Now the legend is gone.
Good video sir!! Vw need to keep advisors like u enthusiasts and not partner with some local brand. User feedback should not be ignored and work upon.
Great analysis , indian market is price sensitive , absolutely agree with small budget cars then high performing cars
Good analysis and wide coverage of Indian mentality for buying car . I fully agree .
True
Service and more segments
In 17 years first time felt I am in service center for my car service. Experience was really unpleasant.
Cars are good but not everyone want so it will be difficult.
One hundred percent honest and genuine openion i dont know why VW doesn't get that.