Triburos: "it isn't a single mistake that causes you to lose." Me who plays tekken: *accidentally presses a single button and gets TOD by an annoying hyperactive breakdancing j-pop idol with a cat motif*
there aren't any real tods that i know of in tekken im sure there are some but those gotta have very specific situations that make them work so that doesnt seem like something that should happen to much just based of the games design
I like when Trib go out his comfort zone, trying to explain a whole diferent genere to us, the monkeys that enjoy looking at funny big red numbers in warframe. Keep it up Trib.
Also, I hate the people who just comments warframe stuff in a video that is not about warframe, just wait for the warframe video next week(or month) god dam.
I recommend watching Sajam. He’s a fighting game commentator and personality who’s really good at demystifying a lot of FG concepts and making the genre a whole lot less intimidating
Btw, hp in this game is the same for everyone BUT some chars take more damage, and as the health gets lower, “guts” takes affect which means less health = less damage taken. Zato has the lowest guts modifier though.
@@t-universegamer7609 no, chipp actually has one of the highest guts modifiers, being 4 (highest belongs to anji, which is 5) He takes more damage normally though. Zato and Faust both have a guts modifier of 0 though, which is the lowest
There are "guts" and there is armor. Guts makes a character take less damage the less hp they have. Armor affects all damage. Chipp has the lowest armor, in the negative actually, but high guts. Zato has no guts, so he always takes the same amount of damage
@@canete571 Zato does have guts, 0 is just the lowest value. The damage reduction is there, just not as noticeable on him as someone like anji. Dustloop has all the damage reduction percentages for all guts values from 0-5
Trib, I really think that your channel can make the transition from Warframe to other games. Keep trying. You're genuinely entertaining and you write decent scripts. Upload more green man.
Ofcourse he can.... But maybe he just really like Warframe.... I would love to see him cover more Conventional Game stuff but that's up to him.... And we have a bunch of other channels that do that already anyways ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Watching this in Jack-O's crouch pose. Guilty Gear characters were some of my favorites to add into MUGEN. Never heard of it? Check it out. You make your own roster for a fighting game.
As a graduated musician who works in a McDonald's, I can confirm the comparison of playing fighting games to learning instruments is spot on. That's why I love fighting games.
You have summoned us. *The FGC.* And yes, Faust’s goal is to gamble the entire match and is the go-to if you’re into masochism! This is… only kind of a joke. Good video.
We should also talk about Sol’s lineage and past He has killed his wife 4 times already. Jack-O within this game is technically a vessel for Sol’s wife’s consciousness to live in. He has a child named Dizzy, and Ky put his peepee in her, making Sol his father-in-law. Ky has a child named Sin, and this makes Sol a grandpa. Ramlethal and another character from XRD named Elphalt being somewhat related to Aria’s robotic form Judgement makes them Sol’s…great nieces? Sol’s entire family is extremely confusing. It might get even more confusing if Ram asks Leo out
Wow. This is legit one of the best guides I have ever seen to Fighting Games in general, let alone Strive. Abso-fucking-lutely great. It's a shame UA-cam tends to punish people for venturing out of their comfort zone, but great video nonetheless.
I think playing Zato in xrd and later in strive almost single handedly got me into fighting games. Learning him has been one of the most rewarding experiences of any game I have played, right up there with learning to rocket jump.
I was only brave enough to play Skullgirls after playing GG Xrd and +R 💀. The game is actually really fun though and not as hard as I imagined it was gonna be. Highly recommend people try it
When I was a fg newbue I bought Skullgirls because I saw tits and ass, then after learning how the game worked I tried out the online. And I thought to myself hell no, even after playing BB, Xrd and Strive I am not going back to playing the online on Skullgirls. Not a fan on infinites, sadly. Still really appreciate the game for what it is
@@serene-illusion I know this comment is weeks old; but there are no more infinites in Skullgirls (or at least; none that are actually inescapable. You get to burst if the opponent repeats a move to often in a single combo). And there haven't been for years. In fact, most characters go for a lot of resets instead (mostly using restands). It's still extremely brutal to try and defend in SG, but you should be used to that after playing BB lol.
fighting games is like Chess to me, since its 1v1 competition, people will be learning about the game forever, players will create new strategies and be one upping each other forever
I love this video, because it's the first time I've had such a clear explanation of some of the archetypes of characters and _what about them would appeal to someone_ and thus what to pick _based on what you like_. I'm 1000% supportive of fighting game content from you, I'd love to see more videos like this, because this was fascinating - meaty information, demonstration of meaty information by showing e.g. what a frame trap was, _application of said meaty information_ through analysis of the character archetypes, and _application of that_ to what you want to pick? That is absolute video heaven for me and I want more of it. I'm an utter fighting game scrub and don't like losing, so it's hard to "git gud"; I genuinely think it is hard to learn to play fighting games just because we don't know what to look for and the feedback is "I lost" or "I won", rather than "I lost because someone did a frame trap that I fell for, that they then used to its full extent and combo'd me for 30% of my health, and I thereafter lost my cool and lost neutral a lot". Or "I was a button mashy nub, and therefore got poked with a long range attack, combo'd into the wall, and thereafter murdered with extreme prejudice by someone actually knowing what they were doing"... which is more likely. ... I guess what I mean is, is there such a thing as "fighting game coaching" content and analysis of people's performance? And what channels do people recommend watching? I'm def. gonna watch the video you linked in the description because that sounds good. I'd love content like this based around Blazblue, DB FighterZ, and Smash, if anyone knows recommendations for those I'd love to see it. ((Is there a Triburos discord? And is there a fighting game channel there? Curious now.))
Yeah, there are tons of fighting game educational content around there. If you're looking for people talking about player matches and analyzing their mistakes, then you're looking for "Match Analysis" videos. Top players do this from time to time looking at their replays but commentators are better for it. Off the top of my head, People like Sajam or Brian F (sometimes iirc) put out match analysis vids from time to time and are fairly friendly about explaining to newbies about what they mean when they drop knowledge. If you're looking for tutorial content, those same people apply but there's WAY more to choose from like say jmcrofts or Lord Knight (Dragon Ball). There's usually someone out there for you if you give a quick search like "[insert fighting here] tutorial". I hope that helps :)
@@kholdkhaos64ray11 Thank you - those terms will be useful. I'm very much on the periphery of the fighting game community - I play Smash singleplayer and played a lot of Blazblue on Vita single player too, just because their style attracted me, but I knew I was never any good at the multiplayer bit. Seeing content like this makes me wish I was into that. I did pick up that free ebook a while back about learning fighting games but couldn't get into it. Maybe some different styles of content will help. :) Thanks for the recommendations.
Oh , if youre looking for channels. Core-A gaming is the creme of the crop if youre looking for fighting game stuff. Hes so educational and cover alot of FG terms and words. And one of my personal favourites is Sajam :)
I like and also I'm scared of raising popularity of GGS This was damn unexpectable, Triburos) Fuck Warframe, now Guilty Gear is the best game in the world
You’re an excellent educator. This is stuff I accrued knowledge of really slowly over time in my beginning phases. Anyone who wants to get invested would be really well-informed off of this!
I am so glad to see Strive on your video style, I can't play Strive myself so seeing people talk about it is always fun Play Guilty Gear Strive you nutmegs
Dude fighting games are my favorite types of games. Have been for a long time (i dont care for strive its boring imo, but if you do im glad) but strive is not as easy as they try to sell it in comparison (it is in some ways sure) BUT they just give you better explanation with alot of things. at one point tho i liked warframe too and when i saw this and realized who you were i was like thats DOPE im glad you are into a fighting game.
Okay ... I always knew you were Into Anime Fighting Games.... But holy crap I never expected to see you upload a video that even Core-A Gaming Subscribers would find overwhelming.... In any case..... Downloading GG Strive Now 😁 !! Might need to buy a new controller too....
Literally got GG:Strive 2 days before this vid and I’ve been loving it! Post some Strive content for us will ya Trib? Thanks man, keep it up! Edit: just hit post then realised I forgot to ask, who’s your favourite GG character? (not limited to strive)
It’s really not as hard as your making it out to be it just takes more time than other games but if you overload yourself with all these terms your gonna end up confused so you should try and learn things as you go
It is.... And I know you want to be helpful but you might do more harm than good when misinform newbies about Fighting Games... They are ridiculously hard and they have their own convoluted language (which actually isn't different from any other genre to be honest) ..... It's better to Rip that band aid of honesty off than to start players off with a lie.... And before you disagree... This is Guilty Gear we're talking about... A series so hard even veteran Street Fighter players can't decipher it. Now if this was a Fantasy Strike Video... That would be a different story :P
@@lookalike4805 I respectfully disagree with games like dbfz and strive they are trying to lessen the learning cap toward new players and of course a street fighter play would have problem in guilty gear because they are different types of fighting games another thing is that since their aren’t many people into fighting games so it’s more of learning an entire genre because more than likely a new player wouldn’t have played a fighting game before they are hard but it’s like that with any game they take time to learn it’s just that fighting games are a bit more complex but the gap isn’t that huge at least I like to think considering I started fighting games 2 years ago
@@crabulaunch4754 I suppose... however it could also be interpreted as they are merely trying to meet both types of players in the middle. which sounds like the same thing but this subtle change in language makes a large difference between a fighting game that actually cares about new players and one that merely uses new players... in the case of Arc Systems Works previous games I would say its the latter.... you'l have to play Killer Instinct with the Combo Assist Mechanic to see the difference. As for your point about Street Fighter and Guilty Gear being different games... sure thats true... but its also not the whole story... Call of Duty and Battlefield are different games but the transitional barrier between the two is nothing like that of Street Fighter and Guilty Gear... the games don't even have the same leniency on their input buffers so even do something that is identical in both games requires a pretty significant adjustment just because of this small difference a fact that thats definitely going to frustrate a new player if we mislead them on just how Accessible fighting games really are (Hint, they're not)... and as for your last point about the difficulty of learning other games... Im sorry but this just isnt true... you should take the time to actually watch someone learn anything else, even when frustrated by the experience not once do they question if the process can be improved and if they do its because there is a genuine desire to make things better.... but with fighting games its: "Why cant they just make it one button.... why dont they just increase the timing window.... etc" the thing to understand here is... they arent actually looking for a genuine answer to these questions... after all knowing what a one frame link is isn't going suddenly going to allow you to do them... what they are really saying they don't see what any of those things have to do with the game.... To them... a Dragon Punch is a Dragon Punch... giving it a fancy cheat code input doesn't change how they perceive the move... in short... the problem is not that Fighting Games are hard... ofcourse they're hard... all competitive games are hard... what makes fighting games different is that they are hard even when you are competing against a dummy in training mode... a feature thats entirely unique to this Genre, you don't see people dropping inputs in Training Modes in other games because other games are smart enough not to crank up the Execution Barrier all the way to 11... Personally I don't like that and I wish that would change... but it wont... hence its better new players know exactly what pain awaits them... and since this is an Arc Sys game... theres doing definitely going to be pain...
@@lookalike4805 To me no offense but I think you're just saying people are lazy and I actually have seen someone learn a game. I taught my little brother how to play street fighter do hadokens and all that and he was enjoying himself. He would rather play fortnite but that because he likes that game a lot. I even watched him go from some trash at that game to pretty decent it all matters on how people feel about a game that makes them wanna learn it and for most people fighting games arent their thing and thats ok
@@crabulaunch4754 I don't know how you got the impression that I think people are lazy but whatever.... Not important... As for learning games (or anything really) ofcourse you taught your Family how to play fighting games.... I reckon that's how alot of Fighting Gamers start out. Because I know you sure as hell count rely on learning directly from the game itself. This is where fighting games differ from other Genres including competitive ones, other Genres don't usually require nearly as much Community Intervention to enjoy or understand them. But fighting games do... Because they are just that hard. A regular person can browse the Steam/PSN/Live store and pick up something like Fortnite or Rocket League on whim and figure it out without nearly as much frustration... However stories of a casual gamer picking up any Arc System Works game and figuring things out on their own are Urban Legends as far as I know... I'm sure it's happened before but it's highly implausible. I've argued for the past 15 years for Fighting Games to swallow their pride and start making some real changes that actually would make them less frustrating to play.... They refused.... So naturally public perception about the Genre hasn't changed infact I would say it's pretty accurate.... Does the FGC Have a problem with that ? They say they do but as soon as you say "One Button Specials" they cry Bloody Murder.... So il just assume it's fine with them if Public Perception never changes.... Misleading people into thinking their not that hard is just going to make it even worse.
great video trib. you explained concepts in fighting games really well not just the ones exclusive to guilty gear like roman cancels, and as a footnote in strive and some other fighting games you can dash back immediately after wakeup and get invincibility. it avoids throws and some attacks though the opponent can wait for it or just hit with a meaty attack with a lot of active frames. great for avoiding pot buster. hope you do more videos about stuff other than warframe like this although I would still like to see the rest of your stug run.
Strive is the first fighting game i've ever played. I'm doing better than expected because i'm okay with being in lower floors, like 6. It's really fun, actually, annoying at times, but pulling an anji counter is worth it.
Hm, I'm torn. On one hand, I'm glad Trib is trying something new with his content. On the other, even as someone who knows many of the conventions and terminologies of fighting games, I had a hard time following this video. For example, while I'm familiar with the term, I don't think he ever explained what mix-ups and cross-ups are, going straight into the differences and applications of their different varieties.
Crosss up is, to quote Dustloop "A crossup is an attack that hits the opponent on the opposite side, forcing the opponent to change the direction they are blocking from left to right (or vice versa)."
Wait, so there are people in the Warframe community who play fighting games? Jk but really I love fighting games and I wish my friends liked them as much as me. My first fighting game was sf2 turbo and I had no idea what I was doing but I learned how to do a fire ball and ever since I've loved the idea of fighting games. I then played an old version of killer instinct with my dad and started to really like it. I tried mk but I didn't really like it then I got to smash and I loved it. Started with brawl then went to pm and it felt amazing. Went back to melee and tbh I preferred pm because I was a Lucario main and anyone who knows pm knows Lucario is the most 2d fighting game character in pm because of his magic series and them turning his aura into ex meter. I played rivals after because it felt nice and custom characters but this is much later. Then I found it, my fighting game of choice would end up being skull girls. My first main was Valentine and she doesn't do a lot of damage to be honest but what she lacks in damage she makes up for in easy long combos with good resets and ips baits and she felt amazing. I had a good idea of how the game worked but it wouldn't be until Annie came out that I broke through the fighting game wall. When Annie came out I wanted to try her and I got pretty good at her but then I saw her potential with sonic fox and I realized I didn't know shit about fighting games until then. After that I really started to lab Annie and discover not only her secrets but how to play fighting games in general and I love it! Also she is a clone of Sol badguy so....lol
People love to complain about how simplified and "accessible" GGS is, but to me, a newbie to the genre, it's a blessing. I haven't managed to stick to any other game because the barrier is too high, but GGS has been the springboard from where I can learn the fundamentals to put into other fighting games.
I think making the game accessible was a bittersweet decision for me as a GG fan. It got rid of a lot of stuff that I think made the previous games super fun, but I think were necessary to get more people into the game. Now on one hand I think it's a blessing, because never have I hopped into a lobby in a Guilty Gear game and see so many people constantly online. It's just sad, y'know? Out of curiosity, what do you think makes the game more accessible for you? For me, I think it was definitely the slower pacing that helps newcomers see what they and their opponents doing in a match. There were some stuff that I don't agree with, like removing a lot of moves for a lot of characters to make their moveset less intimidating for beginners. Like imagine you're playing this character in a game and thinking they have the coolest moves, only to find that character have a lot of their cool ass moves be removed in the next game to make them more accessible. It sucks honestly, but what do you think?
No i didnt get into this game cause you and another youtuber made a meme video about it being slow af. No i do not enjoy it that much. No i didnt tell the truth at all Yes i am addicted to gg strive now like i was with soul calibur and dsouls
Picked this game up and played with friends a bit. Decided to try axl for the first time not even knowing a 2 hit combo and proceeded to reach floor 9. I bullied potemkin and gold lewis players and i dont feel bad.
You like Axl? S>S>HS into Winter Mantis, cancel into Axl Bomber by hitting HS in Winter Mantis at the right time. I think they're going to nerf his frame data and combos soon. Axl can do some weird shit people still haven't figured out how to react to yet.
I know this is not a Warframe video, but I wanna know your reaction to the ghoul saw. I will leave analogies containing ecstasy and the word climax up to you however.
Ive played street fighter fallowed by dbfz from the age of 6 until a few years ago. now at 19 I'm well on my way to early onset carpul tunnel because i didn't know my family has a predisposition for it. Even though I can't play as often or as well as I used to I still love the genre and hearing that strive seems to be less taxing on the hands than other series makes me excited.
This video was so entertaining I'm willing to call this my favorite video on UA-cam and I had never heard of this game before, I wanna get it but its so expensive ;-;
Before Strive came out, there was a bundle sale for all of the other GG games that were on PC for something like $14. Did anyone else pick up that bundle?
My enjoyment of fighting games comes purely from the primal feeling of "press button and person gets punched" I couldn't give less of an iota of a fuck about combos,frames,block chains or whatever the fuck is the new word salad they came up with this time
4:48 id say the most fun ive had in this game besides playing matches with people who match my skill level was when i was playing against giovanna and I had used chipps(i am a chipp main) command grab over and over on her and lost the match because i was laughing so hard
Call me late but with your humor and presentation style and editing, you could pretty much do any content and it would be entertaining. I didn't see the jump from nappa to zato though
Ok thank you for the video sir Triburos now back in the basement we await stug 3(jokes aside though publish any of the content you want just please let us have Stug 3 soon)
I haven't had this much fun with a fighting game since Big Band was released in Skullgirls. Goldlewis Dickinson is one of my favorite characters, he just needs to hit you ONCE
I'll admit I'm terrible at fighting games...my logic for character choice was Potemkin simply because for the idea of ' once I get my hands on you' with severe simplicity
Pot is who I started with in the old games a few years back when I was new to the anime fighter genre and now I play him competitively. Really awesome and fun character but that’s everyone imo :)
Oooo I'm tryna remember cos I only have rev 2 who the other characters I'm tryna play are....think it's Faust and Leo. My main issue is remembering combos and specifically things like launching..also I have no defence as hard as I try
i sent more time looking for moded memes then i should be i also laughed way to hard at axl long range with 4 checks, because he holds 90% of the anti airs in the game and yes im a chipp main and i relish in the "hit me and punish me if you can harder daddy" even know strive is indeed fun, ill prob still stick more with blazblue CF till a proper squal of that kind of style(BBtag is fundamentaly not a squal even if it has the name for a few reasons)
Some fighting games are harder than others just like some fps games are harder than others, but the genres are just as easy (or hard) to get into generally. It just seems like fps games are more accessible because the current gaming market heavily favors them.
The way Sakonoko explains it is... "You can feel it in the Air... It's kinda like an Omen..." Or if you play Menat you can just throw out Normals without rhyme or reason and still succeed because "Priority"...
Ahh. Now i get why 2d fighters will never surpass Tekken. In tekken, defense and offense is no longer than half a second. Most of all the round is spent in neutral. There is no "let me spam six button combo while my opponent has to block until they guess correctly what my last action will be". There is only a launch that contains a combo you cannot escape, and oki and neutral. The offense/defense is only 2 buttons, or strings that carry risk for the attacking player that far outweighs the reward if the defending player blocks correctly.
Compared to Strive, Tekken has about the same length offense strings, actually some I would dare say are longer even. However, usually only your opener is safe on block because you can't cancel most of the recovery animations into things like specials and supers. If your offense lasts "no longer than half a second", I don't think you're that good at Tekken lol. Plus, there certainly are characters that do that "let me spam my six button combo" vibe, like Lucky Chloe and to a lesser extent Noctis, Lili and Kazumi. Oki in Tekken is also very different in that you have more options when downed about how you get up. And I mean, Strive is currently rapidly approaching the popularity of Tekken, with a growing fanbase and (at time of writing) tending to average around half the viewership of T7, which is impressive considering both are past their launch window, but T7 has had 7 years to build up that following, whereas GGST has had 3 months
I just watched a wf youtuber do a preview on my fav ane first fighting game I got weeks ago and listen to him admit i am better at doing tiger knees than him
Great video! I hope it'll make people want to try the game or the fighting genre! Was interesting and fun to watch And never forget that Eddie IS the best waifu.
Important to note that the most important thing to have fun getting into a fighting game is to play against people of your level, cus getting stomped sucks
And strive dose a pretty good job making sure you you fight with people on your skill level with the floor system. most of the time if you get stomped its because you got overconfident and went up too many floors and not because the game decided to match you up with someone who has 200 hours in the game.
no my game isn't modded and you have zero proof to prove that it is
uh huh sure
Where stug run
Texas
Texas
I’m surprised you haven’t made a video d on the goul saw
Triburos: "it isn't a single mistake that causes you to lose."
Me who plays tekken: *accidentally presses a single button and gets TOD by an annoying hyperactive breakdancing j-pop idol with a cat motif*
Lucky Chloe has the best fighting style.
Ah yes, getting hit once as Chipp with 50% risc is pretty much one mistake into dead :3
@@Kilesfactor i mean, yeah, but you had to make some mistakes as chipp to get to 50% risc so i'm not so sure that counts...
@@TheGallantDrake true, guess I’ll try my best to see if I can find a twitter clip where he makes one mistake and then dies.
there aren't any real tods that i know of in tekken im sure there are some but those gotta have very specific situations that make them work so that doesnt seem like something that should happen to much just based of the games design
I like when Trib go out his comfort zone, trying to explain a whole diferent genere to us, the monkeys that enjoy looking at funny big red numbers in warframe. Keep it up Trib.
Also, I hate the people who just comments warframe stuff in a video that is not about warframe, just wait for the warframe video next week(or month) god dam.
well he said it himself, fgc is very small
the biggest youtuber is Maximilian and like he never sticks with one game like most people
@@AlanTheBruv *next year
As if the FGC wasn't full of monkeys, the only difference is that the red that activates our neurons is on a bar
As an instrument player I can say that blocking with my instrument took me a life time to learn
Big Band??? Is that you?????
@@hortense5321 maybe
@@kadethomas8101 you best be parrying this catastrophe cannon
@@Helpfulhelp I’ll give it my all
haha funni trupet man
I recommend watching Sajam. He’s a fighting game commentator and personality who’s really good at demystifying a lot of FG concepts and making the genre a whole lot less intimidating
same with maximilian dood i would say
If your a sol main like me I also reccomend DEB for her amazing Sol gameplay
yeah i love brian f
Damn, he's good
Oh you mean not jiyuna?
Btw, hp in this game is the same for everyone BUT some chars take more damage, and as the health gets lower, “guts” takes affect which means less health = less damage taken. Zato has the lowest guts modifier though.
Not really, chipp does.
@@t-universegamer7609 no, chipp actually has one of the highest guts modifiers, being 4 (highest belongs to anji, which is 5) He takes more damage normally though. Zato and Faust both have a guts modifier of 0 though, which is the lowest
There are "guts" and there is armor.
Guts makes a character take less damage the less hp they have. Armor affects all damage.
Chipp has the lowest armor, in the negative actually, but high guts.
Zato has no guts, so he always takes the same amount of damage
@@canete571 Zato does have guts, 0 is just the lowest value. The damage reduction is there, just not as noticeable on him as someone like anji. Dustloop has all the damage reduction percentages for all guts values from 0-5
@@aswo6207 oh, i didnt know that, thanks for correcting me
Trib, I really think that your channel can make the transition from Warframe to other games. Keep trying. You're genuinely entertaining and you write decent scripts.
Upload more green man.
Ofcourse he can.... But maybe he just really like Warframe.... I would love to see him cover more Conventional Game stuff but that's up to him.... And we have a bunch of other channels that do that already anyways ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It's weird as hell seeing all these youtubers I watch for so many different game series coming to make a video on my favorite fighting game genre.
Lol true. Ive seen so many ppl i would have NEVER thought know anything about FG's start playing strive
Yknow, it’s kinda weird for the guy who has always begged for a grappler frame to be a Zato player, no?
It's because Zato has a color scheme that matches Trib's
@@Kreinsamer That's a mod.
@@strotch7753 dammit
well he did always want a good minion/summon in warframe
zato can do some heavy bs, besides his theme is fire
I pray he isn't hurt from ghoulsaws gameplay
Everyone should be
The enemies sure aren't, that's for damn sure.
Man it's such a let down
Watching this in Jack-O's crouch pose.
Guilty Gear characters were some of my favorites to add into MUGEN. Never heard of it? Check it out. You make your own roster for a fighting game.
I see intresting shit from it
One note though: one should be careful with them mugen games because people can virus you just via mugen character files, from what I've heard.
It's no longer a skill ceiling, but a whole skill sky. Also, nice background stuff there Trib.
It is Indeed CELESTIAL
XD
WE HAVE ONLY ONE SKY
As a graduated musician who works in a McDonald's, I can confirm the comparison of playing fighting games to learning instruments is spot on. That's why I love fighting games.
FGC
Some are kazoos
Some are Stradivarius
Some are HARPSICHORDS
XD
I main Elphelt for too long. People train long enough just to master inputs. You don't wanna mess them
As someone going into the arts in college this is painful to read lmao
You have summoned us.
*The FGC.*
And yes, Faust’s goal is to gamble the entire match and is the go-to if you’re into masochism! This is… only kind of a joke. Good video.
Faust doesn't have to win, he just has to confuse and scare his opponent
Maybe if Faust didn't take his schizo meds, he'd still be winning majors by now
We should also talk about Sol’s lineage and past
He has killed his wife 4 times already. Jack-O within this game is technically a vessel for Sol’s wife’s consciousness to live in. He has a child named Dizzy, and Ky put his peepee in her, making Sol his father-in-law. Ky has a child named Sin, and this makes Sol a grandpa. Ramlethal and another character from XRD named Elphalt being somewhat related to Aria’s robotic form Judgement makes them Sol’s…great nieces? Sol’s entire family is extremely confusing. It might get even more confusing if Ram asks Leo out
Dizzy is not Sols child.
Edit: Gears are canonically sterile, play GG2:Overture
@@punishedbrak4255 explain Sin Kiske
Wow. This is legit one of the best guides I have ever seen to Fighting Games in general, let alone Strive. Abso-fucking-lutely great.
It's a shame UA-cam tends to punish people for venturing out of their comfort zone, but great video nonetheless.
I think playing Zato in xrd and later in strive almost single handedly got me into fighting games. Learning him has been one of the most rewarding experiences of any game I have played, right up there with learning to rocket jump.
this game is pure visual crack for my eyes
and auditory heaven for my ears thanks to daisuke’s vision for the ost
@@joshualee4498 True, the soundtracks in this game is just 👌
Daisuke and Naoki hashimoto are litelar GODS
"Hard to make people enter a fighting game"
....Ever attempted getting someone in Skullgirls?
I was only brave enough to play Skullgirls after playing GG Xrd and +R 💀. The game is actually really fun though and not as hard as I imagined it was gonna be. Highly recommend people try it
When I was a fg newbue I bought Skullgirls because I saw tits and ass, then after learning how the game worked I tried out the online. And I thought to myself hell no, even after playing BB, Xrd and Strive I am not going back to playing the online on Skullgirls. Not a fan on infinites, sadly. Still really appreciate the game for what it is
@@serene-illusion I know this comment is weeks old; but there are no more infinites in Skullgirls (or at least; none that are actually inescapable. You get to burst if the opponent repeats a move to often in a single combo). And there haven't been for years. In fact, most characters go for a lot of resets instead (mostly using restands). It's still extremely brutal to try and defend in SG, but you should be used to that after playing BB lol.
fighting games is like Chess to me, since its 1v1 competition, people will be learning about the game forever, players will create new strategies and be one upping each other forever
Not just chess. It's bullet chess but flashy and 50x harder
It's more of real-time strategy
You forgot to mention that its soundtrack is BLAZING YEAH MY HEART IS BLAAAZING
IF THE WORDS KILL ME, II DONT NEED A *NEW WORLD ORDER YOU!*
Playing a fighting game is like chess but all the pieces are queens
I love this video, because it's the first time I've had such a clear explanation of some of the archetypes of characters and _what about them would appeal to someone_ and thus what to pick _based on what you like_.
I'm 1000% supportive of fighting game content from you, I'd love to see more videos like this, because this was fascinating - meaty information, demonstration of meaty information by showing e.g. what a frame trap was, _application of said meaty information_ through analysis of the character archetypes, and _application of that_ to what you want to pick?
That is absolute video heaven for me and I want more of it.
I'm an utter fighting game scrub and don't like losing, so it's hard to "git gud"; I genuinely think it is hard to learn to play fighting games just because we don't know what to look for and the feedback is "I lost" or "I won", rather than "I lost because someone did a frame trap that I fell for, that they then used to its full extent and combo'd me for 30% of my health, and I thereafter lost my cool and lost neutral a lot". Or "I was a button mashy nub, and therefore got poked with a long range attack, combo'd into the wall, and thereafter murdered with extreme prejudice by someone actually knowing what they were doing"... which is more likely.
... I guess what I mean is, is there such a thing as "fighting game coaching" content and analysis of people's performance?
And what channels do people recommend watching?
I'm def. gonna watch the video you linked in the description because that sounds good.
I'd love content like this based around Blazblue, DB FighterZ, and Smash, if anyone knows recommendations for those I'd love to see it.
((Is there a Triburos discord? And is there a fighting game channel there? Curious now.))
Yeah, there are tons of fighting game educational content around there. If you're looking for people talking about player matches and analyzing their mistakes, then you're looking for "Match Analysis" videos. Top players do this from time to time looking at their replays but commentators are better for it. Off the top of my head, People like Sajam or Brian F (sometimes iirc) put out match analysis vids from time to time and are fairly friendly about explaining to newbies about what they mean when they drop knowledge.
If you're looking for tutorial content, those same people apply but there's WAY more to choose from like say jmcrofts or Lord Knight (Dragon Ball).
There's usually someone out there for you if you give a quick search like "[insert fighting here] tutorial". I hope that helps :)
@@kholdkhaos64ray11 Thank you - those terms will be useful.
I'm very much on the periphery of the fighting game community - I play Smash singleplayer and played a lot of Blazblue on Vita single player too, just because their style attracted me, but I knew I was never any good at the multiplayer bit.
Seeing content like this makes me wish I was into that.
I did pick up that free ebook a while back about learning fighting games but couldn't get into it. Maybe some different styles of content will help. :)
Thanks for the recommendations.
@@dekkhan2085 no problem! We're happy to help anyone who is eager and willing to learn :)
Oh , if youre looking for channels. Core-A gaming is the creme of the crop if youre looking for fighting game stuff. Hes so educational and cover alot of FG terms and words.
And one of my personal favourites is Sajam :)
@@kholdkhaos64ray11 Rooflemonger also pretty good for general info as well as character tutorials for a lot of FGs!
I like and also I'm scared of raising popularity of GGS
This was damn unexpectable, Triburos)
Fuck Warframe, now Guilty Gear is the best game in the world
I'm fairly new here, but I gotta say I really like the energy you bring.
“ggst is hard”
May mains: No
totsugeki
🐬🐬TOTSUGEKI🐬🐬
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Honestly Trib, your sarcastic style but genuinely great explanation and passion works perfect for explaining Guilty Gear.
Disclaimer: no Faust’s were harmed in the making of this video
Finally some variety content sad to see it will get viewbombed because it's not Warframe
You’re an excellent educator. This is stuff I accrued knowledge of really slowly over time in my beginning phases. Anyone who wants to get invested would be really well-informed off of this!
I feel brain dead while listening to you explain this game
Seriously I feel stupid watching this video but I can't stop watching it because this game is eye candy
@@spookwavevevo indeed
I bought an 80 dollar music CD and got thiscool game with it
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I am so glad to see Strive on your video style, I can't play Strive myself so seeing people talk about it is always fun
Play Guilty Gear Strive you nutmegs
Already am! And a proud Potemkin main to boot, grapplers are a drug man
1:16 I see what you did there and yes, Potemkin is best waifu...
Dude fighting games are my favorite types of games. Have been for a long time (i dont care for strive its boring imo, but if you do im glad) but strive is not as easy as they try to sell it in comparison (it is in some ways sure) BUT they just give you better explanation with alot of things. at one point tho i liked warframe too and when i saw this and realized who you were i was like thats DOPE im glad you are into a fighting game.
> making a game about a fighting game isn't good for views
trib, we have watched you place eggs and chit chat for 2 hrs
actually 1 month later and the egg video still has more views than this one
neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeever mind
Okay ... I always knew you were Into Anime Fighting Games.... But holy crap I never expected to see you upload a video that even Core-A Gaming Subscribers would find overwhelming....
In any case..... Downloading GG Strive Now 😁 !! Might need to buy a new controller too....
Core-A is Goated tho, but yeah i like Trib too :)
Literally got GG:Strive 2 days before this vid and I’ve been loving it! Post some Strive content for us will ya Trib? Thanks man, keep it up!
Edit: just hit post then realised I forgot to ask, who’s your favourite GG character? (not limited to strive)
As someone who's first 2d non platform fighter was strive, yes, I agree, fighting game is hard
But hey! You survived.
Congratulations
XD
It’s really not as hard as your making it out to be it just takes more time than other games but if you overload yourself with all these terms your gonna end up confused so you should try and learn things as you go
It is.... And I know you want to be helpful but you might do more harm than good when misinform newbies about Fighting Games... They are ridiculously hard and they have their own convoluted language (which actually isn't different from any other genre to be honest) ..... It's better to Rip that band aid of honesty off than to start players off with a lie.... And before you disagree... This is Guilty Gear we're talking about... A series so hard even veteran Street Fighter players can't decipher it.
Now if this was a Fantasy Strike Video... That would be a different story :P
@@lookalike4805 I respectfully disagree with games like dbfz and strive they are trying to lessen the learning cap toward new players and of course a street fighter play would have problem in guilty gear because they are different types of fighting games another thing is that since their aren’t many people into fighting games so it’s more of learning an entire genre because more than likely a new player wouldn’t have played a fighting game before they are hard but it’s like that with any game they take time to learn it’s just that fighting games are a bit more complex but the gap isn’t that huge at least I like to think considering I started fighting games 2 years ago
@@crabulaunch4754 I suppose... however it could also be interpreted as they are merely trying to meet both types of players in the middle. which sounds like the same thing but this subtle change in language makes a large difference between a fighting game that actually cares about new players and one that merely uses new players... in the case of Arc Systems Works previous games I would say its the latter.... you'l have to play Killer Instinct with the Combo Assist Mechanic to see the difference.
As for your point about Street Fighter and Guilty Gear being different games... sure thats true... but its also not the whole story... Call of Duty and Battlefield are different games but the transitional barrier between the two is nothing like that of Street Fighter and Guilty Gear... the games don't even have the same leniency on their input buffers so even do something that is identical in both games requires a pretty significant adjustment just because of this small difference a fact that thats definitely going to frustrate a new player if we mislead them on just how Accessible fighting games really are (Hint, they're not)...
and as for your last point about the difficulty of learning other games... Im sorry but this just isnt true... you should take the time to actually watch someone learn anything else, even when frustrated by the experience not once do they question if the process can be improved and if they do its because there is a genuine desire to make things better.... but with fighting games its: "Why cant they just make it one button.... why dont they just increase the timing window.... etc" the thing to understand here is... they arent actually looking for a genuine answer to these questions... after all knowing what a one frame link is isn't going suddenly going to allow you to do them... what they are really saying they don't see what any of those things have to do with the game.... To them... a Dragon Punch is a Dragon Punch... giving it a fancy cheat code input doesn't change how they perceive the move...
in short... the problem is not that Fighting Games are hard... ofcourse they're hard... all competitive games are hard... what makes fighting games different is that they are hard even when you are competing against a dummy in training mode... a feature thats entirely unique to this Genre, you don't see people dropping inputs in Training Modes in other games because other games are smart enough not to crank up the Execution Barrier all the way to 11... Personally I don't like that and I wish that would change... but it wont... hence its better new players know exactly what pain awaits them... and since this is an Arc Sys game... theres doing definitely going to be pain...
@@lookalike4805 To me no offense but I think you're just saying people are lazy and I actually have seen someone learn a game. I taught my little brother how to play street fighter do hadokens and all that and he was enjoying himself. He would rather play fortnite but that because he likes that game a lot. I even watched him go from some trash at that game to pretty decent it all matters on how people feel about a game that makes them wanna learn it and for most people fighting games arent their thing and thats ok
@@crabulaunch4754 I don't know how you got the impression that I think people are lazy but whatever.... Not important...
As for learning games (or anything really) ofcourse you taught your Family how to play fighting games.... I reckon that's how alot of Fighting Gamers start out. Because I know you sure as hell count rely on learning directly from the game itself. This is where fighting games differ from other Genres including competitive ones, other Genres don't usually require nearly as much Community Intervention to enjoy or understand them. But fighting games do... Because they are just that hard.
A regular person can browse the Steam/PSN/Live store and pick up something like Fortnite or Rocket League on whim and figure it out without nearly as much frustration... However stories of a casual gamer picking up any Arc System Works game and figuring things out on their own are Urban Legends as far as I know... I'm sure it's happened before but it's highly implausible.
I've argued for the past 15 years for Fighting Games to swallow their pride and start making some real changes that actually would make them less frustrating to play.... They refused.... So naturally public perception about the Genre hasn't changed infact I would say it's pretty accurate.... Does the FGC Have a problem with that ? They say they do but as soon as you say "One Button Specials" they cry Bloody Murder.... So il just assume it's fine with them if Public Perception never changes.... Misleading people into thinking their not that hard is just going to make it even worse.
FGC member here, liked hearing your standpoint as someone who doesn’t spend a ton of time playing them
Bro your talking style could make an 30 min ad about toilets and ( i cant STRESS THIS ENOUGH) i would watch it.
I'd take losing for my own improvement in a fighting game than having to deal with salty 12 y.o. kids in other games ngl
great video trib. you explained concepts in fighting games really well not just the ones exclusive to guilty gear like roman cancels, and as a footnote in strive and some other fighting games you can dash back immediately after wakeup and get invincibility. it avoids throws and some attacks though the opponent can wait for it or just hit with a meaty attack with a lot of active frames. great for avoiding pot buster. hope you do more videos about stuff other than warframe like this although I would still like to see the rest of your stug run.
@SNES Nes as a Pot main, i respect it friend
Strive is the first fighting game i've ever played.
I'm doing better than expected because i'm okay with being in lower floors, like 6.
It's really fun, actually, annoying at times, but pulling an anji counter is worth it.
*Picks up guilty gear for the first time*
I like pain :)
Hm, I'm torn. On one hand, I'm glad Trib is trying something new with his content.
On the other, even as someone who knows many of the conventions and terminologies of fighting games,
I had a hard time following this video.
For example, while I'm familiar with the term, I don't think he ever explained what mix-ups and cross-ups are, going straight into
the differences and applications of their different varieties.
idk I understood it so
Nah, he explained them. They're pretty intuitive for fighting game terms, too. A mix-up is literally mixing up your attacks, after all :)
Crosss up is, to quote Dustloop "A crossup is an attack that hits the opponent on the opposite side, forcing the opponent to change the direction they are blocking from left to right (or vice versa)."
this video properly demonstrates why the only "fighting game" i play is smash bros
Hey less warframe content more likely I'll actually watch his vids!
My mates been trying to get me to buy this just relentlessly .... Why did you have to post this now
Dbfz guide pls i wanna see you call me a monkey for playing ui goku
Wait, so there are people in the Warframe community who play fighting games? Jk but really I love fighting games and I wish my friends liked them as much as me. My first fighting game was sf2 turbo and I had no idea what I was doing but I learned how to do a fire ball and ever since I've loved the idea of fighting games. I then played an old version of killer instinct with my dad and started to really like it. I tried mk but I didn't really like it then I got to smash and I loved it. Started with brawl then went to pm and it felt amazing. Went back to melee and tbh I preferred pm because I was a Lucario main and anyone who knows pm knows Lucario is the most 2d fighting game character in pm because of his magic series and them turning his aura into ex meter. I played rivals after because it felt nice and custom characters but this is much later. Then I found it, my fighting game of choice would end up being skull girls. My first main was Valentine and she doesn't do a lot of damage to be honest but what she lacks in damage she makes up for in easy long combos with good resets and ips baits and she felt amazing. I had a good idea of how the game worked but it wouldn't be until Annie came out that I broke through the fighting game wall. When Annie came out I wanted to try her and I got pretty good at her but then I saw her potential with sonic fox and I realized I didn't know shit about fighting games until then. After that I really started to lab Annie and discover not only her secrets but how to play fighting games in general and I love it! Also she is a clone of Sol badguy so....lol
People love to complain about how simplified and "accessible" GGS is, but to me, a newbie to the genre, it's a blessing. I haven't managed to stick to any other game because the barrier is too high, but GGS has been the springboard from where I can learn the fundamentals to put into other fighting games.
I think making the game accessible was a bittersweet decision for me as a GG fan. It got rid of a lot of stuff that I think made the previous games super fun, but I think were necessary to get more people into the game. Now on one hand I think it's a blessing, because never have I hopped into a lobby in a Guilty Gear game and see so many people constantly online. It's just sad, y'know?
Out of curiosity, what do you think makes the game more accessible for you? For me, I think it was definitely the slower pacing that helps newcomers see what they and their opponents doing in a match.
There were some stuff that I don't agree with, like removing a lot of moves for a lot of characters to make their moveset less intimidating for beginners. Like imagine you're playing this character in a game and thinking they have the coolest moves, only to find that character have a lot of their cool ass moves be removed in the next game to make them more accessible. It sucks honestly, but what do you think?
No i didnt get into this game cause you and another youtuber made a meme video about it being slow af.
No i do not enjoy it that much.
No i didnt tell the truth at all
Yes i am addicted to gg strive now like i was with soul calibur and dsouls
Finished the video and now only thing to say, Zato mains unite!!!
Picked this game up and played with friends a bit. Decided to try axl for the first time not even knowing a 2 hit combo and proceeded to reach floor 9. I bullied potemkin and gold lewis players and i dont feel bad.
You like Axl? S>S>HS into Winter Mantis, cancel into Axl Bomber by hitting HS in Winter Mantis at the right time.
I think they're going to nerf his frame data and combos soon. Axl can do some weird shit people still haven't figured out how to react to yet.
I know this is not a Warframe video, but I wanna know your reaction to the ghoul saw.
I will leave analogies containing ecstasy and the word climax up to you however.
You did a pretty good job on describing the characters and game Trib.
Also Ghoul Saw when?
I've been looking forward to this for a long while
In your defense . Making TK Bomber is more hard than normal TKs and needs a more precise input
Ive played street fighter fallowed by dbfz from the age of 6 until a few years ago. now at 19 I'm well on my way to early onset carpul tunnel because i didn't know my family has a predisposition for it. Even though I can't play as often or as well as I used to I still love the genre and hearing that strive seems to be less taxing on the hands than other series makes me excited.
This video was so entertaining I'm willing to call this my favorite video on UA-cam and I had never heard of this game before, I wanna get it but its so expensive ;-;
@@leithazizpagy4699 oh thank you!
Before Strive came out, there was a bundle sale for all of the other GG games that were on PC for something like $14. Did anyone else pick up that bundle?
I was playing this sense Testament and Dizzy, favourite characters Rip
My enjoyment of fighting games comes purely from the primal feeling of "press button and person gets punched"
I couldn't give less of an iota of a fuck about combos,frames,block chains or whatever the fuck is the new word salad they came up with this time
Every Person that likes to play Warframe likes "Sol Badguy" probably, because the Tenno are walking Warcrimes doing their existens.
Maybe I'm late, but hearing "Haven't You Got Eyes in Your Head" I can say simply: You've got taste, my dandy fellow.
4:48 id say the most fun ive had in this game besides playing matches with people who match my skill level was when i was playing against giovanna and I had used chipps(i am a chipp main) command grab over and over on her and lost the match because i was laughing so hard
Y'know, I was pretty interested in checking this game out, but after seeing this video I think I'm not going to bother. Thanks!
Call me late but with your humor and presentation style and editing, you could pretty much do any content and it would be entertaining. I didn't see the jump from nappa to zato though
Let’s be real tho strive compare to Xrd, strive is so much more dumb down. XRD was the game that made it break you
Fighting games with friends: ballin'
Fighting games online: what the fuck is 6p?
Cool to see that you play GG, I really enjoyed your other content as well so this was a pleasant surprise.
magatsu!
Ayy, i know you. Nice that youre here man!
Ok thank you for the video sir Triburos now back in the basement we await stug 3(jokes aside though publish any of the content you want just please let us have Stug 3 soon)
The DE Canadian Overlords will be displeased that this isn’t a Warframe video
I haven't had this much fun with a fighting game since Big Band was released in Skullgirls. Goldlewis Dickinson is one of my favorite characters, he just needs to hit you ONCE
I'll admit I'm terrible at fighting games...my logic for character choice was Potemkin simply because for the idea of ' once I get my hands on you' with severe simplicity
Pot is who I started with in the old games a few years back when I was new to the anime fighter genre and now I play him competitively. Really awesome and fun character but that’s everyone imo :)
Oooo I'm tryna remember cos I only have rev 2 who the other characters I'm tryna play are....think it's Faust and Leo. My main issue is remembering combos and specifically things like launching..also I have no defence as hard as I try
oh look nappa main has went and become zato man. Also this man has astolfo in the background
"I don't really play MMOs"
-*Man who plays Warframe for a living*
i sent more time looking for moded memes then i should be
i also laughed way to hard at axl long range with 4 checks, because he holds 90% of the anti airs in the game
and yes im a chipp main and i relish in the "hit me and punish me if you can harder daddy"
even know strive is indeed fun, ill prob still stick more with blazblue CF till a proper squal of that kind of style(BBtag is fundamentaly not a squal even if it has the name for a few reasons)
Seeing a lot of drip at 2:12
... and a lot of TEXAS at 2:50 & 5:11
... and WTF is this @ 26:21?!?!?
Pot is caked up
That intro was godly btw
Sorry too complicated, imma go back to pressing E+W repeatedly.
Fighting games are just as easy as fps. In one, you click on the head, in the other, just don't get hit. I don't see what this is all about man.
Some fighting games are harder than others just like some fps games are harder than others, but the genres are just as easy (or hard) to get into generally. It just seems like fps games are more accessible because the current gaming market heavily favors them.
@SNES Nes exactly.
predicting other's moves is sooo hard for me... i don't know how people do it
You cant really predict everything but some people tend to have a pattern that you can figure out.
The way Sakonoko explains it is... "You can feel it in the Air... It's kinda like an Omen..."
Or if you play Menat you can just throw out Normals without rhyme or reason and still succeed because "Priority"...
Might get back into Guilty Gear to play Jack-O again... for her fighting style
God damn it trib you got me hooked on another video game >:(
Ahh. Now i get why 2d fighters will never surpass Tekken.
In tekken, defense and offense is no longer than half a second. Most of all the round is spent in neutral. There is no "let me spam six button combo while my opponent has to block until they guess correctly what my last action will be".
There is only a launch that contains a combo you cannot escape, and oki and neutral. The offense/defense is only 2 buttons, or strings that carry risk for the attacking player that far outweighs the reward if the defending player blocks correctly.
Compared to Strive, Tekken has about the same length offense strings, actually some I would dare say are longer even. However, usually only your opener is safe on block because you can't cancel most of the recovery animations into things like specials and supers. If your offense lasts "no longer than half a second", I don't think you're that good at Tekken lol. Plus, there certainly are characters that do that "let me spam my six button combo" vibe, like Lucky Chloe and to a lesser extent Noctis, Lili and Kazumi. Oki in Tekken is also very different in that you have more options when downed about how you get up.
And I mean, Strive is currently rapidly approaching the popularity of Tekken, with a growing fanbase and (at time of writing) tending to average around half the viewership of T7, which is impressive considering both are past their launch window, but T7 has had 7 years to build up that following, whereas GGST has had 3 months
Welcome to the FGC bro, have fun and embrace salt
"I don't really play MMO's"
-triburos
Anyone notice astolfo was in the back ground at 5:51
2:52 are these fucking astolfo paintings
-Edit-
5:11 there too
19:27 Ayo what's he doing there in the background
I just watched a wf youtuber do a preview on my fav ane first fighting game I got weeks ago and listen to him admit i am better at doing tiger knees than him
Wait i just realized the dp motion for axl bomber changed to a quarter nvm.
Great video! I hope it'll make people want to try the game or the fighting genre!
Was interesting and fun to watch
And never forget that Eddie IS the best waifu.
I have no idea what's happening but I'm still launching out loud, good vid trib :)
Important to note that the most important thing to have fun getting into a fighting game is to play against people of your level, cus getting stomped sucks
And strive dose a pretty good job making sure you you fight with people on your skill level with the floor system. most of the time if you get stomped its because you got overconfident and went up too many floors and not because the game decided to match you up with someone who has 200 hours in the game.
Okay but where is the next stug video?
As a person who suffered a few tekken max difficulty all character playthroughs including a tag team tekken, i can agree, shit difficult
Sol considered best in the game?!!😂😂 these must have been different times
Yes, Sol was incredibly broken at release. Apparently Potemkin was too?
5:56 ah yes, the classic newbie mistake of playing chip into potemkin, very difficult advice to master (jks)