Dragons Frustrated Over Kids Book Entrepreneurs Fairytale | SEASON 18 | Dragons' Den

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  • Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
  • Ben Ridgway and Liam Johnson are pitching their follow-along animated books for children. They're seeking an investment of £100,000 in exchange for 5% of the company. However, the entrepreneurs seem to think the statistics on their target market are child's play...
    Season 18, Episode 11
    An international sensation, Dragon's Den features entrepreneurs pitching for investment in the Den from our Dragons, five venture capitalists willing to invest their own money in exchange for equity.
    #DragonsDen #YapBooks #ChildrensProducts

КОМЕНТАРІ • 215

  • @NnumNumNum
    @NnumNumNum Рік тому +222

    This was not only frustrating for the dragons.... This is frustrating to watch

    • @serpentvert
      @serpentvert Рік тому

      The one entrepreneur is a supreme bullshiter 😂

    • @mosespeter9711
      @mosespeter9711 Рік тому +3

      It is not frustrating to watch for me

    • @brandonvernet
      @brandonvernet Рік тому +3

      @@mosespeter9711it because you are already frustrated and you don’t know it.

    • @littlelizzi3135
      @littlelizzi3135 Рік тому +9

      Painful to watch , they're useless bless them 😂

    • @heleng9940
      @heleng9940 Рік тому +4

      They didn't even make a counter offer or attempt to negotiate, they would be painful to work with.

  • @BeastTheMadness
    @BeastTheMadness Рік тому +52

    Ben literally threw a tantrum 😂 Look at his face! He'd be a proper nightmare to work with!

  • @GodotOfficial
    @GodotOfficial Рік тому +146

    Peter was so disgusted by this pitch that he didn’t even turn up

    • @shaywhelan4354
      @shaywhelan4354 Рік тому +14

      He was so out he didn’t come in

    • @gerardford9706
      @gerardford9706 Рік тому +2

      ​@@shaywhelan4354i always come in

    • @jonathan0834
      @jonathan0834 8 місяців тому +1

      Peter He wasn’t well at the time so Theo came to fill in.

    • @jakesmith-bs4jd
      @jakesmith-bs4jd 6 місяців тому

      @@jonathan0834🙄

  • @ammis5064
    @ammis5064 Рік тому +63

    They didn’t deserve Touka’s offer I thought he was going to ask for 50 😂

  • @harryhunter7872
    @harryhunter7872 Рік тому +68

    Sarah made the best decision based on nobody using it for free

  • @SiriusMined
    @SiriusMined Рік тому +149

    Touker's offer was very fair. They made a huge mistake.

    • @sexyhomeowner9345
      @sexyhomeowner9345 Рік тому +4

      I agree.

    • @planeguy95
      @planeguy95 Рік тому +5

      More like Touker dodged a bullet. These clowns would’ve been a nightmare

    • @RAC345
      @RAC345 4 місяці тому

      Can’t find them on the App Store so I’m guessing you’re right 😂

  • @mrx702
    @mrx702 Рік тому +96

    They are crazy to refuse that deal, they are delusional.

    • @Imbadbambam
      @Imbadbambam Рік тому +1

      💯

    • @ouroborostechnologies696
      @ouroborostechnologies696 Рік тому

      Yes and no

    • @longq5198
      @longq5198 Рік тому

      They're married to the registered number and not the active users number.

    • @planeguy95
      @planeguy95 Рік тому +2

      Yep, absolute morons. But I’m more pleased for Touker that he dodged the bullet

  • @Uvray
    @Uvray Рік тому +101

    Their abrupt rebuff to the Toucan's offer without even an attempt at discussion is indicative of how clueless in business these two are. He dodged a bullet there - they'd be a nightmare to work with. I think they thought they were showing their backbone, but they weren't. They were displaying their lack of gumption.

  • @ekenuayakoendali9668
    @ekenuayakoendali9668 Рік тому +30

    Bringing screens into everything is a no no. Reading books should be left traditional. Reducing screen time should be promoted.

    • @nealphore
      @nealphore 8 місяців тому +4

      exactly, their idea actually takes the value away from reading an actual book.

  • @tonytoonstours
    @tonytoonstours Рік тому +63

    Now if Peter was there and had interrupted Deborah she would have said nothing

    • @Mossyz.
      @Mossyz. Рік тому +15

      Her and Touker are ex lovers...that's why him and her don't get along ...And Peter is their love child they had together .
      Didn't you know this ....Everyone knows this .

    • @tonytoonstours
      @tonytoonstours Рік тому +7

      @@Mossyz. I thought they were unidenticle Siamese twins

    • @Mossyz.
      @Mossyz. Рік тому +2

      @@tonytoonstours 🤣🤣

    • @AdamBechtol
      @AdamBechtol Рік тому

      Mmmmm

    • @AdamBechtol
      @AdamBechtol Рік тому

      My guess is it's his last name.

  • @mrhoneycutter
    @mrhoneycutter Рік тому +28

    Holy cow, what a disaster, an absolute mess of a presentation and multiple instances of “making up” answers, then on top of that, they get a reasonable offer and decline it. These guys are hopeless.

    • @scienceevolves4417
      @scienceevolves4417 Рік тому +1

      "five years" answer was hilarious. Though granted, he didn't get the meaning of the question.

  • @PaulStewartAviation
    @PaulStewartAviation Рік тому +10

    What a hopeless pair. The older guy should have remained quiet and let the younger one answer everything. He was in a constant state of fluster and defensiveness.

  • @TippiGordon
    @TippiGordon Рік тому +73

    Teaching my kids how to read was one of the most joyous, rewarding experiences of my life. I would never, ever outsource that to a device.

    • @anubusx
      @anubusx Рік тому +7

      That was Duncan's criticism with the I Teddy.
      He thought it was the parent's role to read to their children.

    • @soilhands7853
      @soilhands7853 Рік тому +5

      virtue signalling much?

    • @user-ds8gf3ki2g
      @user-ds8gf3ki2g Рік тому +7

      @@soilhands7853miserable much?

    • @AdamBechtol
      @AdamBechtol Рік тому +1

      @@user-ds8gf3ki2g Lol really. Is teaching our own children how to read the new flex? How about how to walk and talk? Use the potty?

    • @twilightdream
      @twilightdream Рік тому

      @@soilhands7853how is that virtue signaling?

  • @Schizniit
    @Schizniit Рік тому +31

    I don't get it. How is that supposed to help a child read? I'm with Theo, I just don't understand the purpose, cause it doesn't help them read and they're gonna get bored with it quickly. It's just audiobooks with extra steps, that's basically what they've invented here. It doesn't help them understand the words any better, in fact it seems like Sara had a good point in that it'd probably make a child's pace even slower while reading because they'll be worried too much about the animation and not with the words they're reading.

    • @scienceevolves4417
      @scienceevolves4417 Рік тому +2

      Yes, and a 2M valuation in a pre revenue product it's just madness.

  • @ScottOSaurus
    @ScottOSaurus Рік тому +21

    How do you look at the fact only 3,000 out of 70,000 use it for free and not think what is going on?! I’ve gotta change something. Right product wrong entrepreneurs

  • @iamsofaking6728
    @iamsofaking6728 Рік тому +24

    These two’re going to zero with a bullet. 100,000£ at 25%? I was expecting 40-50%. And they turned it down flat, no negotiation. Destined for mediocrity.

  • @wardosravin
    @wardosravin Рік тому +20

    That scouser was slippery. Anyone that finds it that easy to lie on the fly cant be trusted. Trust is the backbone of all transactions.

    • @Jimmy_TV
      @Jimmy_TV Рік тому +5

      Brummy*

    • @planeguy95
      @planeguy95 Рік тому +3

      I’m surprised these clowns got an offer at all. Touker dodged a bullet by them rejecting

    • @petermason1933
      @petermason1933 9 місяців тому +2

      Scouser ? What a dummy, he's a Brummie 😅

    • @danielripley4754
      @danielripley4754 4 місяці тому +1

      Scouser 😂😂😂😂

  • @Erickhetfield
    @Erickhetfield Рік тому +11

    The guy's atittude is, ironically, very childish,

  • @royfr8136
    @royfr8136 6 місяців тому +3

    Ironically, these guys seem like they have never actually read a book themselves. 'Doing learning'

  • @Adrian-lc6jq
    @Adrian-lc6jq Рік тому +29

    These guys give big scammer vibes how they pluck numbers out of thin air

  • @agrisea.original
    @agrisea.original Рік тому +18

    Creating a world of short attention span adults.. Lovely.

  • @nessthecat
    @nessthecat Рік тому +73

    These guys have got absolutely NO chance. Good GRIEF, what an absolute disaster. Guessing they've gone under?

    • @ianrae1546
      @ianrae1546 Рік тому +2

      Seems that they’re actually doing ok.

    • @Zenocius
      @Zenocius Рік тому

      Gone were the days of British innovation

    • @getin3949
      @getin3949 Рік тому +1

      @@ianrae1546 Where did you get your info please?

    • @ianrae1546
      @ianrae1546 Рік тому

      @@getin3949
      Simple google search

    • @BenjaminGoose
      @BenjaminGoose 11 місяців тому

      I googled it and I got a different result.@@ianrae1546

  • @DynV
    @DynV Рік тому +12

    Before Touker spoke, I thought selling *something* in children books sections was the right way to do it. You can have a dozen preview leaflets that when purchased the cashier either give them an activation code or take their email address for it to be sent to; you charge 1-2 pounds extra for a leaflet (than an app alone).

  • @76-UVB
    @76-UVB Рік тому +17

    5:34 the guy should go in to politics, he is great at not answering a question and attempting to baffle brains with B.S.

  • @AynOtori
    @AynOtori Рік тому +6

    He's a kind of saleman who sells you a trip to the Titanic in a shabby submarine.

    • @ED-209UHD
      @ED-209UHD Місяць тому

      The Titanic didn’t sink Olympic did Learn the truth

  • @infjmale91
    @infjmale91 Рік тому +13

    "How much cocaine did you take before speaking to the dragons?"
    "Yes!"

  • @stormchild831
    @stormchild831 Рік тому +6

    If I was a dragon, personally, I wouldn't want to work with these guys, just something about them... I think Touker dodged a few sleepless nights with this deal ...

  • @philipbrit13
    @philipbrit13 Рік тому +8

    Theo was awarded the OBE last week. He stated “”what’s the point I can’t play the dratted thing””

  • @Bluetown66
    @Bluetown66 Рік тому +11

    If Deborah had made that offer they would have tried to negotiate a deal.

  • @jasonm4332
    @jasonm4332 Рік тому +10

    this invention actively does the very opposite of what these guys are claiming it does. it lessens imagination and incentive around reading -actual reading ,minus flashing lights and signals

    • @Sh0gath
      @Sh0gath Рік тому +2

      well you see if you just stuck a flow signal onto the ipad..

  • @scienceevolves4417
    @scienceevolves4417 Рік тому +11

    This guy should have been Bojo's representative when it came to allegations of parties at Westminster and whitehall. Barrels of laughs guaranteed 😅
    - So did the prime minister know about the parties?
    - tomorrow.
    - no, no, can you answer the question please?
    - five years...

  • @muratmhcoglu4184
    @muratmhcoglu4184 Рік тому +3

    I was waiting for Theo to smash the thing and then go "This is not sturdy enough!"

  • @SiriusMined
    @SiriusMined Рік тому +6

    Givien them turning down a very reasonable offer, I'm thinking they never really wanted a dragon. They just wanted the exposure.

  • @ianoliver7271
    @ianoliver7271 Рік тому +4

    Once upon a time, in the Dragons Den, two dreamers arrived and pitched their product
    like Gruffalos. But the fairytale had a send end and they left with nothing. Oh, what a shame!!

  • @marthahabba3362
    @marthahabba3362 Рік тому +6

    To me, they didn’t came for investments. They came to advertise the product, but it backfired on them. They have zero sells !! like we said
    Touker just dodged a bullet..good for him.

  • @jonathan0834
    @jonathan0834 8 місяців тому +2

    Only decent Part of their website / App is you don’t have to talk or see that crazy guy on it.

  • @royfr8136
    @royfr8136 6 місяців тому +1

    ''Touker I want a divorce'' - ''In that case i dont want to be with you anymore''...... Man, this guy has such an ego

  • @joshuaren8284
    @joshuaren8284 Рік тому +4

    1.1 stars on the app store, what a pair of muppets 😂😂75% of a lot is better than 100% of nothing 🤷‍♂️only getting 1 like on your Instagram posts is tragic and only having 149 followers 🤦‍♂️wrong decision boys, wrong decision!

  • @Paul-km9ox
    @Paul-km9ox Рік тому +4

    too many colours, sounds, and movement, this is literally what is wrong with kids shows, cocomelon channel alone was found to have devastating effect on kids.

  • @Leonardo07712
    @Leonardo07712 Рік тому +8

    They came on dragons den for promotion not for a deal

  • @bigbig83uk
    @bigbig83uk Рік тому +8

    Keeping our kids away from screen time is the way forward.

  • @neva.2764
    @neva.2764 6 місяців тому +1

    Screens, screens, screens 😢
    One to learn how to read, one to make tooth brushing fun, etc, etc.
    Does no-one question this at all?
    Billions of kids learned to read or brush their teeth without animation 😒
    I don't understand why you would want to raise your child like that.

  • @elastronaute1198
    @elastronaute1198 Рік тому +2

    No chance. The business model doesn't work. And 5% of children? They're joking, they'd be lucky to reach 0.1% of children with this. And this is ridiculously over valued. Total idiots to refuse investment. Even if it's a growing market, there will be many failures. This will likely be one of them. There is no evidence they're going to succeed at all. Doubt they get this off the ground. It was a fair offer from Touker for once. Should have taken the money.

  • @SNSNAKE
    @SNSNAKE Рік тому +3

    if peter was there he would of told them to jog on...and then go on a jog with them.

  • @jakecooper5855
    @jakecooper5855 Рік тому +4

    Biggest mistake of their lives. Could have been millionaires in a few years, they won't achieve anything by themselves. If the idea works, Google or some other major company will do it. Also, 'Smart Books Make Smart Kids' should not have a comma...

  • @KTSpeedruns
    @KTSpeedruns Рік тому +2

    This is why tech startups need to stop being so obsessed with growing user base before they're even concerned with making profit

  • @Mike-jl2kp
    @Mike-jl2kp Рік тому +3

    Wow - didnt even want to negotiate!

  • @Jarulf4477
    @Jarulf4477 Рік тому +3

    First second: cringe mode
    And yeah nice, just feed them images to replace the lively fantasy worlds in childrens heads in addition to all the social media and frankly quite sick kids youtube.👍

  • @fahadh5548
    @fahadh5548 Рік тому +3

    They come across a very dislikable duo

  • @leenobody3249
    @leenobody3249 Рік тому +2

    Fella on the left seemed frantic

  • @stephenturner6075
    @stephenturner6075 Рік тому +5

    They are a couple of fools for not taking that deal. They will go nowhere now.

  • @chrisperry5244
    @chrisperry5244 Рік тому +2

    Ben and Lee went merrily into the den to talk to the dragons about there super new idea, Ben should of stayed at home 😅

  • @yogioto
    @yogioto Рік тому +3

    That guy makes a lousy entrepreneur. Keeps on guesstimating, best way to lure any investor

  • @neeekkk
    @neeekkk Рік тому +1

    Clearly just there for the airtime, but they couldn't present themselves any worse. Unprepared, Unprofessional.

  • @shafserious2805
    @shafserious2805 Рік тому +1

    Toucha waites till no1 invests then sharks an offer

  • @5alid-Alanazi
    @5alid-Alanazi Рік тому +1

    Touker's offer shouldn't be less than 33%!

  • @peterstar2023
    @peterstar2023 Рік тому +1

    Where's Peter?

  • @pamelamckenzie2685
    @pamelamckenzie2685 Рік тому +5

    If you felt that a dragon should not help you you should have not gone there i hope real books dont go a nice book to hold in stead of sitting in front of a screen i love books real books.

    • @scienceevolves4417
      @scienceevolves4417 Рік тому +2

      Correct. There's a bloody app for everything nowadays 😅

    • @whapakkouch2132
      @whapakkouch2132 Рік тому +1

      A real book gives you a different, more fulfilling experience, imho.

  • @getin3949
    @getin3949 Рік тому +2

    If you can take it far without a dragon then why did you come crawling on your knees into the den??????

  • @ozzycastalotovich2249
    @ozzycastalotovich2249 Рік тому +2

    "We know we can take this far without a dragon" so why come on the show and waste everyone's time then?

  • @RailwayModellerOz
    @RailwayModellerOz Рік тому +1

    That guy sounds like he went to the Pro Gains School of Business.....

  • @markshepperson3603
    @markshepperson3603 Рік тому +3

    Naive and arrogant with a throw away idea that’s way over valued.

  • @5alid-Alanazi
    @5alid-Alanazi Рік тому +3

    God saved you Touker.

  • @bluceree7312
    @bluceree7312 Рік тому +1

    He says what he wants in the beginning.
    "I'm feeling excited, obviously we want to get this out to the world and that's why we're here today".
    They just wanted a free TV advert. They were never there for the investment.

  • @eh4372
    @eh4372 Рік тому +1

    I think they was out before tuca said he was out tbh

  • @00Kuja00
    @00Kuja00 Рік тому +1

    I wonder if they had research backing up their claims.

  • @ahh1180
    @ahh1180 Рік тому +3

    Imagine encouraging a child to read like Forrest Gump

    • @withgoddess
      @withgoddess Рік тому

      We all start out reading like him.. you're no exception.

  • @cormac2515
    @cormac2515 20 днів тому

    Kids need less screens growing up, not more. People have gotten lazy and choose the easy option and chuck a tablet at their child. Its so wrong.

  • @Fush1234
    @Fush1234 Рік тому +5

    What a waste of money. Fun factor. Then just boring for the child. Ben hasn’t really thought this tru. Hahaha

  • @ED-209UHD
    @ED-209UHD Місяць тому

    I didn’t know clowns did a double act 😂

  • @sadiqalam2815
    @sadiqalam2815 Рік тому +2

    Uploads use to be for lunch, then late lunch to after work viewing 😂

  • @JL-gf3yc
    @JL-gf3yc Рік тому

    Tej and his “pwaduct”🤣🤣

  • @AliKhan-yx1dy
    @AliKhan-yx1dy Рік тому +1

    Toker got bare space for this 😁
    But it was let down 😮😂😂😂

  • @jack-a-lopium
    @jack-a-lopium 7 місяців тому

    Would be better to develop the scheme for public schools.

  • @ED-209UHD
    @ED-209UHD Місяць тому

    I’m surprised they could read a children’s book 😂

  • @grantjamieson4291
    @grantjamieson4291 Рік тому

    What do you remember about your childhood? A screen!

  • @penny9986
    @penny9986 Рік тому

    Most schools give children free online access to books. The school pays, (eg razkids) the children have free access that books at any level. This doesn't work.

  • @user-mw8hf9fr5n
    @user-mw8hf9fr5n 7 місяців тому

    Ben looks like Mr. Bean

  • @randyzeitman1354
    @randyzeitman1354 Рік тому

    Deborah is simply the best.

  • @viernes-5
    @viernes-5 Рік тому +1

    UA-cam frustrated with outdated dragon dent 😮

  • @BenjaminGoose
    @BenjaminGoose Рік тому +14

    Little known fact: Evan Davis, the narrator of the show, suffers from a rare condition whereby he can’t stop making puns

    • @kaj661
      @kaj661 Рік тому +7

      When James Corden stole a joke, he had to publicly apologise
      You're worse than James Corden, let that sink in

  • @Edith..horses
    @Edith..horses 11 місяців тому

    Nah but the thing is he’s my uncle (Ben/Benjamin ridgway)

  • @Ziggykitty666
    @Ziggykitty666 Рік тому

    Dragons never heard of leapfrog?

  • @positivethinker9840
    @positivethinker9840 2 місяці тому

    I could not work with this guy, he can't give an answer to a simple question, not sure why the 2nd guy was there, hardly said anything.

  • @TheCoreyHodges
    @TheCoreyHodges 6 днів тому

    0:10
    Men when they see a vulnerable girl

  • @CleoptraMonrow
    @CleoptraMonrow 26 днів тому

    some of those dragons think they are really special so they have money so what

  • @jf1341
    @jf1341 Рік тому

    they should have left Ben at home

  • @Peacebro121
    @Peacebro121 Рік тому

    Looks like that’s what they are going to do and try retail so touker give them the idea and now it’s a massive gamble that they going into retail without a dragon time will tell

  • @moogleking
    @moogleking Рік тому +1

    This was painful to watch

  • @likeasambud9817
    @likeasambud9817 Рік тому +2

    Anyway, whats everyone eating?

  • @JaceTan-90
    @JaceTan-90 10 місяців тому

    they should have worked with schools to integrate it into the curriculum, or even better, for children for disabilities.
    also, great concept and great product. Bad presentation and planning by the founders. Also, way too early!

  • @chrishaynes1804
    @chrishaynes1804 10 місяців тому

    is it just me or did they need to use the book to work on there own speech

  • @shootingzen28fav
    @shootingzen28fav Рік тому

    I'd buy that for a dollar.

  • @Clo_Dub
    @Clo_Dub Рік тому +1

    Wow, what an original, innovative product; more electronics to babysit kids these days.

  • @Ali76564
    @Ali76564 Рік тому

    They are so smart 🤓 the dragons den people

  • @gurrelliotv4684
    @gurrelliotv4684 Рік тому

    Cocaine is a helluva drug . Not good for dragons den guys

  • @hughgeorgechannel
    @hughgeorgechannel Рік тому

    This is hilarious

  • @Ziggykitty666
    @Ziggykitty666 Рік тому

    Dragons were dumb on this one

  • @GameAGuy
    @GameAGuy Рік тому

    They would have to grt new books and stories yo maintain subs. That isnt happening with these guys

  • @stevesalt9005
    @stevesalt9005 Рік тому

    PR stunt