Same here. I've no idea how well the Critical Role gang knows Wil, he did guest once, but I feel like with them having their own company and studio, without bullshit from higher ups since they are in charge, they could provide the perfect place for Wil to start a new tabletop show if he'd still be interested in doing that. Might be able to provide him with a more comfortable shooting schedule too since that studio is always there, and I bet they could use a game table for other shows too. Like demonstrating their own produced board games, but also play whatever game they feel like and upload for the everything is content bits. Or even a short campaign if they want to. Would be pretty fun to see them play Imperial Assault with Matt as the Imperial player and seeing them all come up with voices for their characters. Wil's show couldn't be named tabletop for legal reasons I'd imagine, but with the Critical Role gang there'd already be a good pool of guests to draw from, especially with their combined circle of friends. Now that G&S is pretty much gone, operated only by a skeleton crew making occasional uploads, previous G&S folk might be free to play a game at the table too. Would sure be fun to have Felicia there once in a while.
My favorite thing about Will is that he just loves all of the art, cuteness, violence, and everything that goes into the minutiae of a game and what makes it special. I adore when a person can gush about something they find fun/interesting and share it with others.
This show introduced me to Dead of Winter and Betrayal at House on the Hill. Love those story driven exploration/adventure/horror board games. Hope to be introduced to more as a 'sort of' board-game newbie
Wow, kept waiting for the Owlbear professor to pop up. For instance, at 20:05, they should enter the second tile on the flip spot (in the stream), not on the random entrance they picked. And the fishhook can be found anywhere in the water, not necessarily on the flip spot. The only reason there's a fishhook on the flip spot icon is because you'd need the fishhook to climb back up into the guardroom.
+JaRedNeck it think they are stepsons but not sure. Still he is 44, old enough to have simi-grown children, like 18 to 22ish. I'm not sure of the sons' ages. Also he looks so young for his age.
Curse! Wheaton’s Dice Luck: Roll a die. 1: Lose all items and go down a level. 2-3: Go down a level. 4: Lose a big item. 5: Lose a small item. 6: You survived. This time. After rolling, keep this card. If you roll a 1 during any other roll, Wheaton’s Dice Luck is activated. A Wishing Ring can be played at any time to remove this curse.
+carella211 The RPGers have litmus-tests for that. If they scream and argue that the dice are "cocked" and it's not a fair roll, they are humans. If they say, "I like Fate Core," they are aliens...
I just have to say, the editing in this show is amazing. it's so seamless you just expect it to be there, explaining things. nobody gives them enough credit - the subtleties are not lost on me editors! good job!
Will and Anne seem such a great couple, great people too. Seems they both hit the jackpot. Love Tabletop, love it more when the family Wheaton get involved.
As a content creator of many Board Game Playthroughs (in which I make lots of rules errors, believe me) I am not going to comment at all about any errors in this episode . . . I did find it enjoyable though and really look forward to part 2. Great job - despite the Wheaton curse . . . or maybe because of it! ;)
Paul Darcy I winced when I saw that they were doing Mice and Mystics. Not because I'm a rules lawyer, but I knew they'd get jumped on for it. The rulebook for Mice and Mystics is pretty rubbish(and I love Plaid Hat Games) and there are just a lot of wonkiness going on with it. A lot of the rules that I see them doing wrong, they're doing it in a way that makes a lot more sense than the actual rules. Such as enemies being affected by water.
+Patrick Goggles Yeah, the rules do say enemies are unaffected by water, but that doesn't really make a lot of sense. Also, I've take a popular home rule where if the last enemy dies at the end of the turn order and you'd just get cheese right away, you skip that. Skipping commenting on some other (very few and minor) errors though and a missed opportunity since they're working with a schedule and the rules that got messed up kind of push the game into, "Welp, let's try again!" territory. Though, Wil, season finale. We don't mind 1+ hour episodes. If you guys want to take your time for a cool board game one a season, go for it.
I have always felt that you should play the game the way you want to play it. If you want to omit a rule or two, or if you want to add a rule or two, then go for it. Playing the game exactly as the official rulebook states every time is kind of pointless. I love "house rules" as they are called. Also, I hate anyone who gets on them for "errors". This is fun, this is entertainment. Why would you care if it is played exactly to letter? Just enjoy it. Those people that jump on them for messing up the rules, those people to me need to pull the stick out of their butt.
+Rockerchavnerdemo I like him mostly because he wrote for Titansgrave, and the Nightmare Visions episode was almost entirely his work. It was epic and beautiful.
Anne and Wil, !!!!!! What an AWESOME family you have ........ rrrr,mmmmm "nurtured", "grown", built".... rrrrr" none of those words describe, how ..... truely, encouraging, and fun and "awesome".... you all, display a warm and close , "family, you"...... Your young gentlemen, are well adjusted... and superb, role models of young folks that appreciate, their parents!!!!! God, Bless you all...... :)))
And I still watch these two episodes several times per year. And you made me buy the game Will ... and they were the first minis I painted. I now have hundredes and hundreds of minis from miniature board games. I blame and thank you at the sme time. A real shame no more TableTop games episodes are being made. But, I keep watching all of them over and over ... thanks again :)
I played this game for 18 months in my new job of South Korea. I love this game very much and how it helped me save money, yet keep children motivated for so long. Thank God for this game!! ^_^
I don't give a crap if they get a few rules wrong. Love watching all these episodes. Having the whole family here this time is awesome. Rules Nazis need to just chill a bit.
Eeeh, agreed; however, you should still stick to the rules. Mistakes are O.K, but just throwing the rulebook out with the bathwater is not really O.K in my view... Also, does #MiceAndMystics remind any of you of #Redwall? "EEEUUULLLLAAALLLLIIAAAA!! 'S DEATH ON THE WIND!"
NobleKorhedron it’s all about fun. If people want to throw out the rules and have fun with a game they owned then it’s all good so long as they are all in agreement of throwing out the rules.
@@Sam-vk8xd Presumably, if the rulebook is well designed, sticking to it should lead to a fair and balanced experience for all parties involved. Of course, sticking to rules is one thing; the manner in which you enforce them is another.
So glad they got to this game. I've been curious about this game for a while, but have never wanted to spend the cash until I got a feel for it. As always, Thanks Team TableTop!
I am in half of this terrific journey through one of my favorite BG, but that means I played a lot, made a lot of mistakes with the rules and feels like I should contribute with a few advices: 1- when a rat minion rolls a cheese defending Filch the cheese goes to the wheel to see if it explodes but if not, the cheese goes to Filch because he steals it. 2 - When the same kind of monster is adjacent to 2 or more mice, but one of them has already been attacked, the second one atacks the next in initiative order, so Filch wouldnt be attacked twice, while Nez should be the target. 3 - When u explore the floor in prision, ur team drops in fishook mark on the water of the sewer an not near the door,
Not reading the comments to find out if this has been said, but when there are two friendly mice and two enemy mice all in attack range, the first enemy will hit the mouse highest on the init track. The next enemy attack will go to the NEXT highest, to prevent a mouse from eating double attacks if he has friends close. Basically Filch would not eat two back to back attacks at 16 minutes in. Still a great video, I enjoyed watching you all having a good time as a family.
Ts incredible to me that they're family, because I see them acting like friends. (Though the 'hey baby you wanna go hone and cheese the wheel' part was fantastic.)
Vensey Ness I found the fact that one of them mimed flipping the table absolutely hilarious..I have had games like that where I get so frustrated at how badly I'm getting my butt kicked by the game or other players that I just want to flip the table.
Im so happy you guys posted a new tabletop on my birthday. Was looking for something to do on my day off today until later tonight. You guys are awesome. Keep up the good work. :)
Its truly adorable and inspiring to see family playing a game! Makes me really wanna start injecting the habit on my own bahaha. Bless you Will and your adorable family and your love for games!
Can we give some appreciation to Wil to being with his family and subjecting all of them to the Wheaton Dice Curse on a worldwide media, and did it for our entertainment?
Wil, you have a really great family. Your dynamic is awesome and really fun to watch. Your wife is gorgeous and very witty and fun, and your sons are really smart and kind dudes. You clearly have put a lot of time bonding with all of them which is a lot more than a lot of fathers and husbands can say!
Bring the new season of tabletops please. :-( Its been over half a year since the last episode came out. I really miss it. Tabletop is the best show on youtube and i really love it. #WillIsAwesome
They film them all in the span of a month or 2 and release weekly. Takes time to gather guests and games to play. UA-cam releases seasons like anything else - you get your 10-20 eps then there's 6-9 months between
I bought this game for the family for Christmas, and it's extremely fantastic. Thanks for introducing me to it! I've even started painting the minis for it......
Great game! Still - at least on camera - it seems too simple for an RPG player, and a bit too complicated for a non-RPG player. Will kind of worked as a non-DM-DM on the game. But that's fine, because it might bridge the gap for someone who loves playing RPG, and wants to introduce it to friends through an easier one. That's on camera, though. Up close, I bet it becomes much easier and thus better for non-RPG players. I will take Will's word for it, because Will is the best. ;). Also, thanks for the show. :).
Lincoln Noronha Maybe "Dungeon World" is a better way to introduce friendly newbies to RPG. It needs a dedicated Game Master, but it has waaaay less complicated and friendlier rules.
Lincoln Noronha Something that i love about this game is that you can run it with a supersmall group (like two people) while other RPG's that have a dedicated GM cant really happen with just two people. Atleast not in my experience
Lincoln Noronha sadly i think this game encapsulates almost everything wrong or off-putting about "modern" gaming - its just a bastard offspring of D&D and a board game - too cutesy for adults, too complicated for kids - gamers typically over estimate the level of complication that most people can endure to even want to play a game I think Legends Of Andor pulls off a mashup of RPG and Boardgame far better
Lincoln Noronha To me, this kinda looks like a cutesy version of Descent? Which, sure, is interesting for a while, but I at least wouldn't recommend it as an introduction into roleplaying. But then again, I'm roleplaying more for the story-telling instead of the tactical battle.
+Geek & Sundry I don't mind what they play, but I want Wheaton and Jim Parsons to play. Preferably "Sheldon" looses, and then flips the table yelling, "WHEATON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Or they could be in a team-ish game where Parsons and Wheaton are teamed up and it becomes very awkward/weird for them. Just saiyan.
+D-Scipio +1 for Diplomacy although Wil comments how Diplomacy scars run deep! If they have a Diplomacy session I'd LOVE to watch...well, I'd LOVE much more to play!
Wil is brilliant. I've dealt with the issue of trying to explain role-playing games to my wife who doesn't play them. These explanations are usually met with her staring blankly, cocking her head slightly, yawning, and asking questions like... Why would you play a game if nobody wins? The idea of using a "cute" game like this to introduce the concept is sheer genius and hopefully will help many spouses , families, and friends of RPG enthusiasts understand the appeal of these games and why we spend so much time (and money) on books and dice. Hopeful... The moment I saw the cute little mice characters, the chaotic evil player within me thought... Bwaahaha, they are so cute. They look just like our cat. How can she resist? This will do nicely (JK). Thanks again Wil! I owe you big time.
As a brazilian: biggest barrier for me introducing my friends to table top is still the language and distribution - unfortunatly. I wish it was easier to find games here (like, on your local Livraria Cultura, or FNAC, perhaps?), and that there were more companies willing to translate foreign ones. :/
Your family is so fun to watch! Please have them on more often, your son's one liners are hilarious and I just love watching your dynamic haha. #familygoals
AWOOGO It wasn't over. They just took a break because of some conventions and editing of Titansgrave. This is part one of the season finale, though. :(
JaredTheTwitch If you're using Firefox, that's probably the cause. There's a known issue with FF and the HTML 5 player that audio loses sync and gradually gets worse as the video goes on. It isn't really noticeable unless the video is longer than 3-4 minutes, though. Chrome doesn't seem to have that problem, so I've been using that instead for the last few months. ...Or it's something to do with newly uploaded videos, which I just read on another comment...
I do use Firefox, but the audio is off just off the bat from the start. I have also tried watching the video through my other browsers and the audio problem is the same.
Doug Parsons its out of sync - on tis vid a bit, not too bad but a bit weird at times - its unlikely to be FF as previous recent vids never had the problem
I love how the eyes of the mice on the game box are made to look bigger in the video to show that they are scared. It cracked me up every time I would catch a glimpse of it.
TLDR: I am NOT excusing the rules errors, but the big picture is that the hobby is is being spread. Wrong rules. They infuriate so many of us. They annoy some of us. And some of us don't care. I'm in the second category, but almost in the third. ***** and the production team try their best to get all of the rules right. Are they 100% successful? No. Are you? Don't kid yourself. The big picture is, what Wil is doing is spreading our great hobby to an audience who we cannot reach. They ARE trying to get everything right, and they have extra eyes on things to help ensure that things are right, but whether they get things right or not, the hobby is being spread. "But the rules he is getting wrong makes the game better/worse/harder. Isn't he giving people false expectations about the games?" Wil picks games for Tabletop based on theme and fun; those things are not affected by the occasional broken rule for the most part. And if they are? Well, maybe people can choose to play that way, or add any other houserule. Or maybe they can read the rules for themselves and learn how to play the game correctly. Because you know what? When you purchase a game, it becomes YOUR game, and you can actually play it the way that YOU want. If you do make a change, the other people have to be on board with this, of course, but it is still an option. The main thing is that we have fun with the boardgames we play. And the more people who get a chance to enjoy this hobby, the better it is for all of us.
I know! My 9+ pet rats rail against this rampant stereotyping and criminalisation of the rat race. No wonder they end up as minions in Evil armies. It's so hard for them to find a decent job with all the bad press they get...
Bought the game. They have several errors in play. To be fair, the written rules are strangely organized. You really need to read all of them instead of scanning. 1) Monsters are not affected by water waves or yellow/red lines. 2) There's no search to recover a captured player. When a player is captured, page counter goes up 1 page (closer to end of game). Player automatically is recovered once enemy minions are dead.
The "abducted" card says you have to make a successful search to rescue a mouse, but I think the out-of-combat requirement still applies so they definitely got that wrong. (spoiler) They get that right in the 2nd video, but maybe just by coincidence. It still has the full effects of a normal capture, like losing your non-starting items as well as moving up the page counter. They still get *that* wrong in part 2 :/ The water issue makes sense, though. If enemy movement can only follow simple rules, having them get swept away is a bit silly. The Wheatons didn't set out to exploit that, but their game-play did end up taking advantage of it.
***** Nolan and Ryan are Anne's children from a previous relationship. It is to my understanding that since Ryan shares the Wheaton name, that Wil legally adopted him.
***** Yes. They were both Wil's stepchildren for most of their lives, and then when Ryan was 19, he asked Wil to officially adopt him. By the way, you could have gotten all of this from Wil's Wikipedia page, just like everyone else does.
Why do people call these games RPGs? There's no roleplay involved... you're too busy rolling dice to do any roleplay. It's a dice rolling game if anything...
Viniter Same reason they call Final Fantasy and similar video games RPGs? It's pretty well established that the term RPG applies to two distinct but related game genres. In both cases, each player controls a character whose particular attributes have an impact on game play. You're right that the "dungeon crawl" dice-rolling genre has little to no role-playing (in the sense of story telling), but at this point I think we're kind of stuck with the nomenclature.
Ezareth It is to the most of my understanding that Ryan was legally adopted by Wil, thus meaning that he is Ryan's father but still maintains no biological relationship. That means that Wil is only the step-father of Nolan.
I wish he had a Father and Son Beer Brewing Show. You guys always seem like you have fun. I know its partly for the show, but you guys have a good dynamic.
4 years later an i still miss this show :(
Just started watching all episodes again. Really gives a bit feeling of companionship when we cant visit friends and play boardgames our selves.
Ugh seriously! This was and still is one of my favorite shows on the interwebs.
@@burneraccount962 I know right? is there anything similar to it on youtube?
instablaster...
Same here. I've no idea how well the Critical Role gang knows Wil, he did guest once, but I feel like with them having their own company and studio, without bullshit from higher ups since they are in charge, they could provide the perfect place for Wil to start a new tabletop show if he'd still be interested in doing that.
Might be able to provide him with a more comfortable shooting schedule too since that studio is always there, and I bet they could use a game table for other shows too.
Like demonstrating their own produced board games, but also play whatever game they feel like and upload for the everything is content bits. Or even a short campaign if they want to.
Would be pretty fun to see them play Imperial Assault with Matt as the Imperial player and seeing them all come up with voices for their characters.
Wil's show couldn't be named tabletop for legal reasons I'd imagine, but with the Critical Role gang there'd already be a good pool of guests to draw from, especially with their combined circle of friends.
Now that G&S is pretty much gone, operated only by a skeleton crew making occasional uploads, previous G&S folk might be free to play a game at the table too. Would sure be fun to have Felicia there once in a while.
6 years later and still the best boardgame show on UA-cam
I still miss this show everyday
@@yadudemellow7492 2024 still re-watching all of Table Top
They have performed another unmentioned upgrade; the miniatures are not pre-painted. The person who painted them though, did a fantastic job.
Mr E The box doesn't come with googly eyes either.
gfshurts Dangit! I wish they had mentioned that!
I was disappointed not to find a hot wife and two grown up sons in the box. What a rip!
Mr E Well damn. I was thinking about immediately buying the game. But now I have to paint? Man I can't even draw!
Aaron Sirois You could just leave them without color.
I love the idea of a Wheaton family game! If Tabletop continues, they should do another - it's just precious.
Maggie Holtorf I was thinking, "what did he run out of guests?!" Better bring in the family! haha
peter crittenden there the best kind of guests
Maggie Holtorf that or wil can do extra family games on his channle XD i wouldnt mind watching them play what ever even repeat games.
wow both of his songs look older than him
blackvial 1 he has only 1 son thats ryan wheaton the other guy is not his son so yeah 2 its spelled son
My favorite thing about Will is that he just loves all of the art, cuteness, violence, and everything that goes into the minutiae of a game and what makes it special. I adore when a person can gush about something they find fun/interesting and share it with others.
That moment where Will makes an innuendo joke and both his kids make eye-rolls and table-flip motions is so adorable I audibly went "awwwwwwwWWW".
This show introduced me to Dead of Winter and Betrayal at House on the Hill. Love those story driven exploration/adventure/horror board games. Hope to be introduced to more as a 'sort of' board-game newbie
Adam Cornish betrayal at house on the hill is AWESOME!!!
Ditto! Betrayal is one of my most favorite games!
This show has introduced me to almost every game I now own.
We need this show back! Nothing else comes even close
Wow, kept waiting for the Owlbear professor to pop up. For instance, at 20:05, they should enter the second tile on the flip spot (in the stream), not on the random entrance they picked. And the fishhook can be found anywhere in the water, not necessarily on the flip spot.
The only reason there's a fishhook on the flip spot icon is because you'd need the fishhook to climb back up into the guardroom.
How are you younger than your own kids Wil Wheaton?
Thats the flipside to his curse with the dice.
because he's a manchild.
He is the only parent where the kids get to yell at him:
Dad stop playing those damn games and get your ass outside and mow the lawn!!
+JaRedNeck it think they are stepsons but not sure. Still he is 44, old enough to have simi-grown children, like 18 to 22ish. I'm not sure of the sons' ages. Also he looks so young for his age.
they're Anne's, and he adopted them
Oh jeez, who remembers Anne saying "Who wins gets a Rolex!!!" and smashing the table throwing the trains EVERYWHERE!
The Wheaton Curse needs to be a card in Munchkin.
Curse! Wheaton’s Dice Luck: Roll a die. 1: Lose all items and go down a level. 2-3: Go down a level. 4: Lose a big item. 5: Lose a small item. 6: You survived. This time.
After rolling, keep this card. If you roll a 1 during any other roll, Wheaton’s Dice Luck is activated. A Wishing Ring can be played at any time to remove this curse.
That's not the real Anne Wheaton!! I mean, she didn't once slap on the table and knock everything over! IMPOSTOR!!
carella211 "THEY" are taking over, replacing everybody...
that's because its not of yet and she has the googly eyes so it may be the real one
+carella211 The RPGers have litmus-tests for that. If they scream and argue that the dice are "cocked" and it's not a fair roll, they are humans. If they say, "I like Fate Core," they are aliens...
i saw their fate core game and looked pretty fun. what's the problem with it?
@@OscarGilFerrer he's an alien
Yay wheaton family tabletop continuing series :) this makes me happy to watch and fun to see his immediate family play a game together on camera
I see the box has been vandaleyes'd.
I am shocked by the perfection of this pun...
@@erikcunningham1583 yeah. well, what do you expect from a box of meyes and mystics?
6 years later and i still come back ever so often to refresh on some games.
Me to bro
Archer'er?
Bryan Kral Its like an archer just more awesome, duh.
RJ Lee But no Healer'er.. guess just a vanilla, standard issue cleric class. Pfft.
Bryan Kral An avid fan of the Archer tv series
Justin Nguyen I love Archer, but I was a little disappointed with season 6. I'll watch it again since some shows get better the more you watch it.
That's a word budo
I love that the games they play bring families together, its amazing
I love it when Wil brings his family on the show
This is my favorite episode ever.
The Wheaton family all together, makes me feel happy.
"Wanna go home and cheese the wheel?"
Best. Pick up. Line. Ever.
Just bought this here in Italy for a group of tabletop players, we all love it, it's perfect for newcomers! Thanks Will
I love the interaction between Ryan and Nolan, I'd love to see them play together some other time again.
I just have to say, the editing in this show is amazing. it's so seamless you just expect it to be there, explaining things. nobody gives them enough credit - the subtleties are not lost on me editors! good job!
Does Mrs. Wheaton just carry around a bag of googly eyes wherever she goes? Because that would be awesome.
She literally does. It's a thing! :)
I do as well because of her. You can buy a little tin of eyes. They're called "Emergency Googly Eyes."
***** I am so glad that I am not the only one that noticed the Vandaleyes-ed box!
Katie Beck yep I noted that she had struck again
R Vale What are you, 10?
Wil hit the jackpot. Awesome wife and two great kids all on the same roll, talk about stunt points.
Maybe that's why his die rolls are crap. He got so lucky in real life it didn't leave any for his gaming.
Finally!! God Wil where has this episode been??
Will and Anne seem such a great couple, great people too. Seems they both hit the jackpot. Love Tabletop, love it more when the family Wheaton get involved.
As a content creator of many Board Game Playthroughs (in which I make lots of rules errors, believe me) I am not going to comment at all about any errors in this episode . . . I did find it enjoyable though and really look forward to part 2. Great job - despite the Wheaton curse . . . or maybe because of it! ;)
Paul Darcy I winced when I saw that they were doing Mice and Mystics. Not because I'm a rules lawyer, but I knew they'd get jumped on for it. The rulebook for Mice and Mystics is pretty rubbish(and I love Plaid Hat Games) and there are just a lot of wonkiness going on with it. A lot of the rules that I see them doing wrong, they're doing it in a way that makes a lot more sense than the actual rules. Such as enemies being affected by water.
+Patrick Goggles Yeah, the rules do say enemies are unaffected by water, but that doesn't really make a lot of sense. Also, I've take a popular home rule where if the last enemy dies at the end of the turn order and you'd just get cheese right away, you skip that. Skipping commenting on some other (very few and minor) errors though and a missed opportunity since they're working with a schedule and the rules that got messed up kind of push the game into, "Welp, let's try again!" territory.
Though, Wil, season finale. We don't mind 1+ hour episodes. If you guys want to take your time for a cool board game one a season, go for it.
I have always felt that you should play the game the way you want to play it. If you want to omit a rule or two, or if you want to add a rule or two, then go for it. Playing the game exactly as the official rulebook states every time is kind of pointless. I love "house rules" as they are called.
Also, I hate anyone who gets on them for "errors". This is fun, this is entertainment. Why would you care if it is played exactly to letter? Just enjoy it. Those people that jump on them for messing up the rules, those people to me need to pull the stick out of their butt.
This is hands down my all time favourite board game... awesome art and theme, battling mice, rpg style game play and dice!!!!!! story is excellent!
"Really?"
I like Ryan a lot.
+Rockerchavnerdemo I like him mostly because he wrote for Titansgrave, and the Nightmare Visions episode was almost entirely his work. It was epic and beautiful.
IceMetalPunk Oh I respect him enormously for that too. This episode just also happens to display his intelligence and wit directly.
IceMetalPunk That explains why it sounded like it was written by a teenager! I was attributing that to Wil.
Anne and Wil, !!!!!! What an AWESOME family you have ........ rrrr,mmmmm "nurtured", "grown", built".... rrrrr" none of those words describe, how ..... truely, encouraging, and fun and "awesome".... you all, display a warm and close , "family, you"...... Your young gentlemen, are well adjusted... and superb, role models of young folks that appreciate, their parents!!!!! God, Bless you all...... :)))
I got here really early because I am so excited for this episode! :)
And I still watch these two episodes several times per year. And you made me buy the game Will ... and they were the first minis I painted. I now have hundredes and hundreds of minis from miniature board games. I blame and thank you at the sme time. A real shame no more TableTop games episodes are being made. But, I keep watching all of them over and over ... thanks again :)
15 Minutes in and I just realized that Anne added googley eyes to the game box!
i saw that @6:40
I played this game for 18 months in my new job of South Korea. I love this game very much and how it helped me save money, yet keep children motivated for so long. Thank God for this game!! ^_^
Lily is the best btw! Just saying... :)
The Wheaton family is ridiculously attractive. I suppose it could be a form of compensation for the dice curse they've got going on.
Angelica Törnros they’re adopted u fool
@@waferjuice it's a joke....
How could anyone dislike this? It's too adorable
Yay, the googly eyes are back!
I enjoyed this episode a lot. The family dynamic gives a lot of quick little inside jokes and of course is very relaxed. Worth the wait. :)
I don't give a crap if they get a few rules wrong. Love watching all these episodes. Having the whole family here this time is awesome. Rules Nazis need to just chill a bit.
Eeeh, agreed; however, you should still stick to the rules. Mistakes are O.K, but just throwing the rulebook out with the bathwater is not really O.K in my view...
Also, does #MiceAndMystics remind any of you of #Redwall?
"EEEUUULLLLAAALLLLIIAAAA!! 'S DEATH ON THE WIND!"
I love this show...
NobleKorhedron it’s all about fun. If people want to throw out the rules and have fun with a game they owned then it’s all good so long as they are all in agreement of throwing out the rules.
@@Sam-vk8xd Presumably, if the rulebook is well designed, sticking to it should lead to a fair and balanced experience for all parties involved.
Of course, sticking to rules is one thing; the manner in which you enforce them is another.
I just love the way Anne and Will look at each other. Goals
Brings back memories of the redwall series
So glad they got to this game. I've been curious about this game for a while, but have never wanted to spend the cash until I got a feel for it. As always, Thanks Team TableTop!
I am in half of this terrific journey through one of my favorite BG, but that means I played a lot, made a lot of mistakes with the rules and feels like I should contribute with a few advices: 1- when a rat minion rolls a cheese defending Filch the cheese goes to the wheel to see if it explodes but if not, the cheese goes to Filch because he steals it. 2 - When the same kind of monster is adjacent to 2 or more mice, but one of them has already been attacked, the second one atacks the next in initiative order, so Filch wouldnt be attacked twice, while Nez should be the target. 3 - When u explore the floor in prision, ur team drops in fishook mark on the water of the sewer an not near the door,
Túlio Oliveira Also, minions are not dragged by the water...
Túlio Oliveira A mouse cannot move against de current of the water.
Túlio Oliveira Besides the rules uses words like "attempt" and "succesfull" to explain Explore action, this action does not need a die roll
Not reading the comments to find out if this has been said, but when there are two friendly mice and two enemy mice all in attack range, the first enemy will hit the mouse highest on the init track. The next enemy attack will go to the NEXT highest, to prevent a mouse from eating double attacks if he has friends close. Basically Filch would not eat two back to back attacks at 16 minutes in.
Still a great video, I enjoyed watching you all having a good time as a family.
Ts incredible to me that they're family, because I see them acting like friends. (Though the 'hey baby you wanna go hone and cheese the wheel' part was fantastic.)
This is what healthy families look like. Weird isn't it?
lightthief I know! Eh. It might just be that I'm a teenager right now or something.
Vensey Ness I found the fact that one of them mimed flipping the table absolutely hilarious..I have had games like that where I get so frustrated at how badly I'm getting my butt kicked by the game or other players that I just want to flip the table.
Im so happy you guys posted a new tabletop on my birthday. Was looking for something to do on my day off today until later tonight. You guys are awesome. Keep up the good work. :)
"Mom!! Why you gotta do that on camera! You're embarrassing me!!"
Its truly adorable and inspiring to see family playing a game! Makes me really wanna start injecting the habit on my own bahaha. Bless you Will and your adorable family and your love for games!
Can we give some appreciation to Wil to being with his family and subjecting all of them to the Wheaton Dice Curse on a worldwide media, and did it for our entertainment?
Wil, you have a really great family. Your dynamic is awesome and really fun to watch. Your wife is gorgeous and very witty and fun, and your sons are really smart and kind dudes. You clearly have put a lot of time bonding with all of them which is a lot more than a lot of fathers and husbands can say!
i want a family just like this ! ADOPT ME WHEATONS PLS
This series encouraged me too find a local gaming group. It's been a ton of fun!
Bring the new season of tabletops please. :-(
Its been over half a year since the last episode came out. I really miss it. Tabletop is the best show on youtube and i really love it. #WillIsAwesome
They film them all in the span of a month or 2 and release weekly. Takes time to gather guests and games to play. UA-cam releases seasons like anything else - you get your 10-20 eps then there's 6-9 months between
They will begin releasing in July.
I love watching your videos and learning about new tabletop games!
It feels so weird hearing Wil say my name over and over again O.o
Love it when the family play on table top. My favourite gamer family.
I envy those painted minis, so hard.
I bought this game for the family for Christmas, and it's extremely fantastic. Thanks for introducing me to it! I've even started painting the minis for it......
Great game! Still - at least on camera - it seems too simple for an RPG player, and a bit too complicated for a non-RPG player. Will kind of worked as a non-DM-DM on the game. But that's fine, because it might bridge the gap for someone who loves playing RPG, and wants to introduce it to friends through an easier one.
That's on camera, though. Up close, I bet it becomes much easier and thus better for non-RPG players. I will take Will's word for it, because Will is the best. ;).
Also, thanks for the show. :).
Lincoln Noronha Maybe "Dungeon World" is a better way to introduce friendly newbies to RPG. It needs a dedicated Game Master, but it has waaaay less complicated and friendlier rules.
Lincoln Noronha Something that i love about this game is that you can run it with a supersmall group (like two people) while other RPG's that have a dedicated GM cant really happen with just two people. Atleast not in my experience
Lincoln Noronha You'd be surprised how much non-rpg players can learn in 10 to 15 games. ;-)
Lincoln Noronha sadly i think this game encapsulates almost everything wrong or off-putting about "modern" gaming - its just a bastard offspring of D&D and a board game - too cutesy for adults, too complicated for kids - gamers typically over estimate the level of complication that most people can endure to even want to play a game
I think Legends Of Andor pulls off a mashup of RPG and Boardgame far better
Lincoln Noronha To me, this kinda looks like a cutesy version of Descent? Which, sure, is interesting for a while, but I at least wouldn't recommend it as an introduction into roleplaying.
But then again, I'm roleplaying more for the story-telling instead of the tactical battle.
FINALLY! The wait has been killing me!
Unfortunately we have a joke during our game nights that when a player rolls crappy dice... they have "Wil-Wheaton-itis" xD
Finally it's here! I've been waiting for so long!
Why did they stop making these?
+norxcontacts We didn't. Season 3 ended and we will begin filming early next year. We are still in process of board game submissions
+Geek & Sundry Star Trek Attack Wing! Imperial Assualt! Star Wars Armada! and some classic games like Hotel or Diplomacy?
+Geek & Sundry I don't mind what they play, but I want Wheaton and Jim Parsons to play. Preferably "Sheldon" looses, and then flips the table yelling, "WHEATON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Or they could be in a team-ish game where Parsons and Wheaton are teamed up and it becomes very awkward/weird for them. Just saiyan.
+Geek & Sundry Another idea is for them to play "Clue" if they haven't. Sorry if they did, but I'm a little ignorant.
+D-Scipio +1 for Diplomacy although Wil comments how Diplomacy scars run deep! If they have a Diplomacy session I'd LOVE to watch...well, I'd LOVE much more to play!
Wil is brilliant.
I've dealt with the issue of trying to explain role-playing games to my wife who doesn't play them. These explanations are usually met with her staring blankly, cocking her head slightly, yawning, and asking questions like... Why would you play a game if nobody wins?
The idea of using a "cute" game like this to introduce the concept is sheer genius and hopefully will help many spouses , families, and friends of RPG enthusiasts understand the appeal of these games and why we spend so much time (and money) on books and dice. Hopeful...
The moment I saw the cute little mice characters, the chaotic evil player within me thought...
Bwaahaha, they are so cute. They look just like our cat. How can she resist? This will do nicely (JK).
Thanks again Wil! I owe you big time.
Rats attacking the same mouse twice, landing on the ground in the sewers instead of water. Wil Wheaton, you're doing it wrong!
YAY! More Wil Wheaton and tabletop!
As a brazilian: biggest barrier for me introducing my friends to table top is still the language and distribution - unfortunatly. I wish it was easier to find games here (like, on your local Livraria Cultura, or FNAC, perhaps?), and that there were more companies willing to translate foreign ones. :/
Still rings true five years later, or i have to buy two editions if i also want the english one shhdjfjfjff
Awesome!!!!! Total win for bringing family in!!!!
Ha. Wil has resorted to games you can't lose so he can finally win
Your family is so fun to watch! Please have them on more often, your son's one liners are hilarious and I just love watching your dynamic haha. #familygoals
"there is no losers couch in an rpg"
Has someone forgotten the possibility of a total party wipe?
"Rocks fall, everyone dies."
I actually thought this series was over. Glad there is 2 more episodes
AWOOGO It wasn't over. They just took a break because of some conventions and editing of Titansgrave. This is part one of the season finale, though. :(
+Katie Beck good news is they have started shooting season 4!
I roll exactly like the wheatons.... does that mean I'm related to them?!?! :D
at 10:15 : those googly eyes on the box. I love Anne's googly eyes addiction!
Is the audio out of sync for anybody else?
JaredTheTwitch Yup. =/
JaredTheTwitch Yes. On every single Tabletop episode :(
JaredTheTwitch If you're using Firefox, that's probably the cause. There's a known issue with FF and the HTML 5 player that audio loses sync and gradually gets worse as the video goes on. It isn't really noticeable unless the video is longer than 3-4 minutes, though. Chrome doesn't seem to have that problem, so I've been using that instead for the last few months.
...Or it's something to do with newly uploaded videos, which I just read on another comment...
I do use Firefox, but the audio is off just off the bat from the start. I have also tried watching the video through my other browsers and the audio problem is the same.
Doug Parsons its out of sync - on tis vid a bit, not too bad but a bit weird at times - its unlikely to be FF as previous recent vids never had the problem
I love how the eyes of the mice on the game box are made to look bigger in the video to show that they are scared. It cracked me up every time I would catch a glimpse of it.
Wow mom looks great!
had to wait 2 weeks for an episode of will with his family? worth it.
I'm disappointed he didn't said Healerer.
I love how they glued googly eyes onto the box.
TLDR: I am NOT excusing the rules errors, but the big picture is that the hobby is is being spread.
Wrong rules. They infuriate so many of us. They annoy some of us. And some of us don't care.
I'm in the second category, but almost in the third. ***** and the production team try their best to get all of the rules right. Are they 100% successful? No. Are you? Don't kid yourself.
The big picture is, what Wil is doing is spreading our great hobby to an audience who we cannot reach. They ARE trying to get everything right, and they have extra eyes on things to help ensure that things are right, but whether they get things right or not, the hobby is being spread.
"But the rules he is getting wrong makes the game better/worse/harder. Isn't he giving people false expectations about the games?" Wil picks games for Tabletop based on theme and fun; those things are not affected by the occasional broken rule for the most part. And if they are? Well, maybe people can choose to play that way, or add any other houserule. Or maybe they can read the rules for themselves and learn how to play the game correctly. Because you know what? When you purchase a game, it becomes YOUR game, and you can actually play it the way that YOU want. If you do make a change, the other people have to be on board with this, of course, but it is still an option.
The main thing is that we have fun with the boardgames we play. And the more people who get a chance to enjoy this hobby, the better it is for all of us.
I love it when you play with your family.
Why rats always gotta be the bad guys :C
I know my 9+ pet rats object at this rampant and archetypical criminalisation of the rat race...
I know! My 9+ pet rats rail against this rampant stereotyping and criminalisation of the rat race. No wonder they end up as minions in Evil armies. It's so hard for them to find a decent job with all the bad press they get...
EXACTLY, my two boys agree.
Crimson FireCat No they don't.
Automaton What??
43:00 Ryan and Nolan's reactions after that "cheese the wheel" line was hilarious. XD
Cool episode! So many rules errors though ><
Check out Watch it Played's series about this game, they teach it really well! =D
I love that Anne got to put eyes on the box
Bought the game. They have several errors in play. To be fair, the written rules are strangely organized. You really need to read all of them instead of scanning.
1) Monsters are not affected by water waves or yellow/red lines.
2) There's no search to recover a captured player. When a player is captured, page counter goes up 1 page (closer to end of game). Player automatically is recovered once enemy minions are dead.
The "abducted" card says you have to make a successful search to rescue a mouse, but I think the out-of-combat requirement still applies so they definitely got that wrong. (spoiler) They get that right in the 2nd video, but maybe just by coincidence.
It still has the full effects of a normal capture, like losing your non-starting items as well as moving up the page counter. They still get *that* wrong in part 2 :/
The water issue makes sense, though. If enemy movement can only follow simple rules, having them get swept away is a bit silly. The Wheatons didn't set out to exploit that, but their game-play did end up taking advantage of it.
Love the googly eyes on the box 12:38
Also, the Rules Lawyer in me is absolutely WRITHING at all the stuff they're doing wrong that isn't house ruled
You know what Shakespeare said about lawyers?
Its nice to see Wil play with his family in this one.
Is Nolan a step child of some sort considering his lack of the surname Wheaton?
Both Ryan and Nolan are Will's step-sons. As to why Nolan didn't change his name and/or changed it again later, your guess is as good as mine.
both are his step children but I think Ryan adopted the name Wheaton whereas Nolan didn't and kept his original surname.
***** Nolan and Ryan are Anne's children from a previous relationship. It is to my understanding that since Ryan shares the Wheaton name, that Wil legally adopted him.
***** Yes. They were both Wil's stepchildren for most of their lives, and then when Ryan was 19, he asked Wil to officially adopt him.
By the way, you could have gotten all of this from Wil's Wikipedia page, just like everyone else does.
+Oscar Griffiths www.reddit.com/r/Homebrewing/comments/ikbof/welcome_new_homebrewer_wil_wheaton/c24gvpv
I love this series, it really makes you feel like you're playing with them. :D
Why do people call these games RPGs? There's no roleplay involved... you're too busy rolling dice to do any roleplay. It's a dice rolling game if anything...
Viniter Same reason they call Final Fantasy and similar video games RPGs? It's pretty well established that the term RPG applies to two distinct but related game genres. In both cases, each player controls a character whose particular attributes have an impact on game play. You're right that the "dungeon crawl" dice-rolling genre has little to no role-playing (in the sense of story telling), but at this point I think we're kind of stuck with the nomenclature.
pencilpauli ba dum tss
If I wouldnt have fallen in love with Anne until now, her little mermaid totally blew me away :-)
WAIT...How old is Mr Wheaton? his kids look like full grown men D:
AoKAY00 oh wait nvm, other guy isnt his kd lol
AoKAY00 Actually i dont know anymore :(
***** aah ok thanks. It doesnt matter but for a secodn I was thinking, "dude if this guy is in his late 40's he looks like a man in his mid 30"s"
Ezareth It is to the most of my understanding that Ryan was legally adopted by Wil, thus meaning that he is Ryan's father but still maintains no biological relationship.
That means that Wil is only the step-father of Nolan.
There his step kids. But he did help raise them under there home : )
I'm glad to see that Anne didn't neglect to vandaleyes the box.
Awesome!! I've been waiting for this new episode.
I wish he had a Father and Son Beer Brewing Show. You guys always seem like you have fun. I know its partly for the show, but you guys have a good dynamic.