For those that keep bringing it up. Yes, Hit wasn't exactly in high favour with me early in the tournament with Universe 6. However that soon changed within a low number of episodes after he began to fight. On top of that, Hit immediately came piled with the most unique moveset in the series. Jiren has been on our screens for longer than the first two arcs respectively and has nothing really interesting or new to offer. I am perfectly happy to accept that he is in fact a good character when/if more information comes to light. All of this information is stated in the video. And it's my opinion. Not a fact.
NoJugNeeded More like the opposite, Frieza is a good character with actual development. Goku is just an idiot who can't decide if he's a hero or a fighter.
Ever since we got Jiren’s backstory, (at fucking last,) I’m still not sure whether that makes him a better character in my eyes. They just recycled the Batman origin story and slapped it on a character. DC comics did it first. What makes it even harder for me is that they explained nothing about Jiren’s strength. We don’t know how he trained, how long he trained, who that evil guy was, who his master was, NOTHING. He’s making Goku look like a more complex character than he really is just by comparison.
And that's the worst part. The potential was there and they could've explained how Jiren became so ASTRONOMICALLY powerful but they didn't and I hope they do address this at some point.
Well, the show is coming back eventually and they kept the identity of the evil guy secret probably because he's a saiyan, perhaps broly or another evil saiyan that we never heard about. And they're definitely setting up the return of jiren and may explain more of his backstory, same with toppo and how he was chosen as a god of destruction candidate. There is still room for explanation and the voice actress of goku even said that she expects the show to get to episode 700
Goten and Trunks go super saiyans like it was nothing no one cares ! Caulifla goes super saiyan like it was nothing every one gets pissed off ! Although I will say that back thing is stupid as hell !
Jiren is basically Saitama. He beats everything without breaking a sweat and his backstory is literally he trained a lot. Just like Saitama. He also is bald.
I don't think of Kabba as an antagonist; more of a cute kohai to give Vegeta some crowning moments of heartwarming. Sad that he never treated Trunks that well. Vegeta can still be a jerk at times. I like how they play with the notions of good and evil all throughout. Beerus is just trying to keep Zen-oh (whom I thought was evil because of what happened to six other universes) satisfied, and has a role in protecting those same Kais who fear him. Then you have Zamasu, a Kai, as the most evil character in the history of the franchise. I also like Hit, but it took ever writers' trick in the book to make an assassin sympathetic. Finally, there's Jiren, who is supposed to be a hero but has no likeable qualities. Hear that, Superman? I also liked Kale and Caulifla just because it's been too long since a female put up a challenge. Same goes for the stars of Universe 2. I never thought I'd see Toriyama take some Mahou Shoujo for a spin, but I'll take them as a loving parody.
I've always thought Frieza was overhyped and done to death, but the Tournament of Power has made me a believer. Toei has given him just the BEST comedic timing and he's starting to FEEL like a proper Dragon Ball character. He's always been so serious but now he's snarky and wonderful. If Super continues after this arc, I'd love to see more of him.
It's because he was turned into a joke since after he died. Every single movie and special with him turned him into fodder which lead people to get tired of the character.
to be fair we didn't get a full ep on jiren yet he apparently have a specific goal in mind so maybe we'll get more focus on him it's too early to judge
same here Spiceymelon. its like ppl DONT want female super Saiyans. that or everyone thinks Goku and Vegeta will live forever and don't need other Saiyans to take their place as the heroes of Dragon Ball. news flash, Toriyama is going to kill off Goku and Vegeta at SOME POINT. its going to be from old age tho, not from an actual fight. hence why there is Cabba, Caulifla, Kale, Trunks, Goten, and Gohan.
I can review Zamasu in two words. Subarashii and Ningen. Oh - by the way: "and" is not a descriptive word so whoever is not joking should get some serious help.
Disagree with Frieza. I think Goku African American gets the number 1 spot. He's definitely the most compelling villain on the show. And Jiren is indeed wack.
Yeah Claulifa well not my thing but you know I can see why some people would like her But Kale ? She's just Broly without the only thing that made Broly kinda great (or slightly interesting at least) in the first place and a really stupid reason to go berserker instead (a fucking cliche yandere in dragon ball what the fuck) Tbh I thought that Ribrianne was kinda funny for the first 10 minutes, it's just that Toei won't let her go so it gets old and annoying really quickly imo
Your right with jiren. He doesn't need to show emotion because he hasn't interacted with anyone but Goku, I feel like once Goku starts pushing him he will show some personality then we can judge him but until then vegeta vs topo is all I care about.
Voltstar I think he hasn't shown any emotion because he's among scrubs... He's just simply bored... I would be too if I was surrounded by insects with no interest of being there... It's not his fault they haven't revealed his backstory yet.... Like seriously, he went on to meditate... That's how bored he was
Toppo or the Pride Troopers in general: Zamasu would get along with them just for the sole purpose of constantly spouting Justice over. And over. And over again.
TheRandomDude Jiren refused to fight in the ToP until Toppo said that there was a wish with the Super Dragon Balls. He didn't want to fight because he didn't want to cause other universes to be erased. That's not personality?
Jiren may yet get some backstory and unveil a personality, Hit was much the same until right at the end of the previous tournament. He was just set up to be a rival for Goku but really pulled it around after that. But until that happens I completely agree.
I think he hasn't shown any emotion because he's among scrubs... He's just simply bored... I would be too if I was surrounded by insects with no interest of being there... It's not his fault they haven't revealed his backstory yet.... Like seriously, he went on to meditate... That's how bored he was... He has a personality but he might as well be depressed in that tournament setting...
DoubleSunday lol Goku's struggle and death or life situation could have been settled with a tingly like feeling in the back. Literally the solution for namek saga
DoubleSunday no don't bring good characters into this because they all started as good character and not cheap goku needs a new rival type. 2 what it's like you people don't want to see a good fight and goku was already exablish to be weaker if you bothered to listen.
Kale and Caulifa deserve to be shit on honestly. To waltz in and have the tingly thing still annoys me. It feels like they put female saiyans in just to have them. It was as if Toei wanted to make up for the lack of them in previous times.
Jiren = Sasuke I bet his entire clan "race" was wiped out, and he wants to get even stronger so that he can beat the one who did it; (*insert plot twist here*) Grand Priest.
Klxwn Not really since Itachi, Shisui, Hiruzen, Danzo, the village elders, and even Obito were involved. Way more plot there than that Man of Steel knock-off...
I think he hasn't shown any emotion because he's among scrubs... He's just simply bored... I would be too if I was surrounded by insects with no interest of being there... It's not his fault they haven't revealed his backstory yet.... Like seriously, he went on to meditate... That's how bored he was.. But Ribrianne is supposed to be a parody. It's not her fault that you don't get the obvious joke.
Senpaiu manga is way better story/pace wise while the anime is better fight/action wise. I like how in the manga they are slowly building up the powers tho. They haven’t introduced SSB Kaioken yet which is good for pacing
I think the jiren part is unfair. Well besides the personality bit... his personality is boring but look back to hit. He wasn't so different from jiren before we learned more about him. I'm waiting until we wrap up the arc to see if he's any good in the end
Well when it gets to that point, then he'd probably change it after the arc if he decides to make another video, but for now, this is what we know: He's the strongest mortal ever, nothing can beat him, his design is boring, and we know NOTHING about his personality besides strong. I think he scored him just fine for right now, but if they give him a decent back story about how/why he became so strong, he'd go up, just have to wait.
I think he hasn't shown any emotion because he's among scrubs... He's just simply bored... I would be too if I was surrounded by insects with no interest of being there... It's not his fault they haven't revealed his backstory yet.... Like seriously, he went on to meditate... That's how bored he was
Ayush deshmukh I agree, there's just nothing for him right now, but I don't like his design right now, maybe I'll grow to like it with a decent backstory, but for now he's not very interesting. It's one of those characters that need more to it besides "Big and strong" which will come later on.
To add to Blindfire's post, Hit does have more things working for him when he first appeared than Jiren. Hit defeated Vegeta quite easily. That took about 6 episodes to see. Jiren shows he is a threat when he defeated Kale. 16 episodes since his appearance. So the build up to him being a threat was much shorter. When Hit was fighting Vegeta, something seemed off. He wasn't as powerful or as fast as him, but he managed to hit Vegeta all of a sudden. And despite Vegeta's best efforts, he seems to be too fast. This was showing off his ability to Time Skip before it was revealed. And it was a good 6 minutes too based off youtube clips. Jiren just one shots Kale with a generic blast and Sentai pose. And when Hit was fighting Goku, we got to see more of his personality. We got to see how his fighting style works. His appreciation for someone pushing him as far as Goku did. Wanting to improve himself as well when strategically it was best for the attack. We got to see a lot of Hit during his fight with Goku that made him more interesting of a character. With Jiren, we don't see much when he fought Goku at the time. He does things every character can do, just stronger. Even when Goku goes Ultra Instinct, he still acts the same as if nothing has changed. Not even a smile for a possible challenge. Even Hit smiled after a while. Jiren could be an interesting character, but for now he is boring.
AkumaTh here's the thing though. The episode thing is fair but that's a result off the arcs becoming longer. As for his personality for those episodes hit just stood around and slept much like jiren. Not to mention hit didn't really get interesting until goku pushed hit to his limit. It wasn't just fighting goku. As for Jiren he hasn't been pushed by goku like hit was as for his powers we have seen some very interesting powers centered around his eyes. He seems to be able to hit with just his eyes. He stopped the spirit bomb with his eyes he stopped hits rasengan with his eyes. There's something special about his eyes something they've been focusing on
I like Jiren now because he is actually badass. I feel a personality is starting to show, and even if it's not very defined, it's better than a terrible one! Ribrianne had more of a personality, but that personality was so fucking annoying!
You really hit the nail on the head with the comparison of Jiren to Broly. Yeah, Jiren might have the chance to be expanded upon in terms of his personality and actually gain a dimension to his character, but, like you said, until then his character is summed up with "really strong guy." Not exactly riveting stuff there. Hell, at least Broly has a cool design, a unique and brutal fighting style, and at least some degree of character-driven motivation, as bare-bones and full of missed potential as it was.
I agree with you on Jiren. If not for his strength, Jiren would simply be forgettable. Hopefully we get to know more about him in later episodes, but as of right now, there’s only one thing to remember him by.
DahrkoEntity Here's the thing, he has a personality... IN THE MANGA. I'm sorry but the storyboarders for the anime just decided "Hey, lets just make Jiren a fucking blank slate with 0 personality on the outside, but make him super strong!" "But, he kinda needs a personality to make him likeable." "Nah, just make him really fucking strong. The fans will eat it up." Manga writer: "I'll show you to butcher a perfectly good character like that."
I'd give Hit & Beerus a 10. And Goku black deserves a 9 at least! Jiren was just introduced in this tournament, we don't know about anyone's backstory yet. How can we know anything about him? He's not like Brolly, we knew Brolly's backstory when he was introduced and it was the stupidest backstory ever. Whereas all we know about Jiren yet is that he has a wish for which he's fighting in the tournament & that's the only reason. The most powerful guy in Universe 11, who's stronger than his GoD, doesn't want to become the next GoD. He has a wish, what can it be? He's not a character without a backstory he's just a mysterious character. We'll get to know more about him in the future!
TheJadeFist I can agree on zamasu but black was played out perfectly in my opinion. We always wondered what a goku who never hit his head as a child would look like and the plans were similar(to eradicate all humanity).
Disliked. Jiren has a backstory. He's El Hermanos brother and has a long history with El Grande Padre delicadoing his compadres to the point it drove him insane.He turned to a life of crime before joining the Sordados Del Orgullo and this arch is about his redemption and him defeating Regles Des Todos and El Grande Padre with Gohan Blanco Calvo (Completado).
The only one I have a major problem with is the Giant Snake. A three, really? The Pilaf gang is much more interesting. They appear in multiple episodes, provide comic relief, actually have dialogue, etc. Mai even has a role in the Zamasu arc. That snake should either have a negative one, zero, or one.
i miss when pilaf was actually a good villian. Bring back his mechs! They could even make them bulmas mechanic apprentices; since they were already skilled as adults before the child wish.
Here's a question for ya guys. Why do all of the main opponents have such similar designs? Frieza, Cell, Buu, Hit, and Jiren, all have the rectangular ear holes, and all of them besides Cell have bald, round heads.
Jiren (to me) *Certainly* gets ironic enjoyment out of me. Like. Goku gets shit on, AFTER a new transformation. Thats worth something, isn't it? -7 for me (with honours)
@@heck6757 The assassins didn't need to be good characters though. They were just unimportant side characters, and didn't need that much developement. Jiren was supposed to be the main antagonist of the arc, but he did not fit that role, he was just a walking power level to overcome, while he shoud've been an interesting fleshed out character with a personality and all that. He was just way more disappointing so he deserves a lower ranking.
Maybe Jiren has PTSD and is just keeping himself together by staying silent and getting stronger as a measure to keep himself and people he cares about safe
I cringed wen his bacstory was give.. soo generic and stupid. I would have had him had gained a dragonball wish in his universe that he made him self invincible and is now seeking the Super Dragon Balls to undo that wish so he could be normal again. Much more impactful.
He actually seemed good at first in my opinion but turning him into a villain at the end was such a slap in the face I couldn't even root for him at the end I couldn't root for anyone i do feel like 17 was a good surprise as last fighter on stage
Marshall Xeno Yeah He is cool but he isn’t really that ruthless. A real ruthless savage would be someone like Broly. And Jiren is starting to show that too.
The Legendary Soldier black not only desecrated trunks future l, mostly killing all the humans and killed all of the gods he was LIterally going to spread and take over the multiverse did broly do that? No he just destroyed a galaxy and scared the slaves from the false planet
Blazing D Amazing lol Broly did all that. Black didn’t even finish killing all mortals and killing a god of destruction is no feat. As the death of his or hers kai-oshin... meaning that fucking suppressed Yamcha at under 0,001% of his power could have killed the gods. Bruh. He was gonna to take over the galaxy. Not the multiverse he didn’t even finish conquering the solar system. Yeah yeah Goku Black didn’t have any rivals or anyone to stop him. His Galaxy universe was literally empty with weakened trash Trunks. Broly had to fight Z Warriors at top strength and Mystic Gohan and much more. Broly is more savage end of the conversation. Lol if you gave Broly a god form he’d rip Black apart... he already could take Fucking Goku and shred him to pieces he would do the same to Black. If he had God Ki that is. So what is is that black could have done all that but that isn’t a feat since he didn’t have anyone to battle and when he got somebody to battle he even lost. And Broly did all his feats alone while Black has Zamasu‘ help.
FimWritersGroup I agree: Jiren is just ridiculously strong and powerful the point of being a god in his base form, and simply because Goku needed a challenge.
I hate people who complain about Jiren design, what did you expect? Another Saiyan like, Rainbow haired, big clawed, furry side, golden eyes design? No thanks, I love the way Jiren is simple and cool.
Romo Reyes Problem is... Is it given to and boring a bad character. Just uses Batman’s origin and is basically Saitama but dull. At least Saitama had character and had personality. Jiren has none of that.
@@SenatorArmstrong2018 Jiren does have personality, although I'm his fan, I do aknowledge he has a cliché past story but I do like his personality, cold, serious, but can be detonated with anger, no other DB character was like that, so it is considered as a unique personality.
@@SenatorArmstrong2018 His personality is logical for someone who lost everything more than once, Goku should not have it cause he always had Friends and family and was always happy.
For those that keep bringing it up. Yes, Hit wasn't exactly in high favour with me early in the tournament with Universe 6. However that soon changed within a low number of episodes after he began to fight. On top of that, Hit immediately came piled with the most unique moveset in the series.
Jiren has been on our screens for longer than the first two arcs respectively and has nothing really interesting or new to offer. I am perfectly happy to accept that he is in fact a good character when/if more information comes to light.
All of this information is stated in the video. And it's my opinion. Not a fact.
Totally Not Mark can you bring back the top 10 worst animated moments of each arc please
Corbino 12 there needs to be a completed arc for me to do that. As it stands the current arc is not finished.
Totally Not Mark the future trunks arc?
Totally Not Mark T
I love Broly because he's a murderous maniac, he's like the Saiyan version of Kid Buu.
"He's merciless, he's powerful, he wants to wipe out every last human."
He's *black*
First Name omfg that is... surprisingly subtle
He is racist
@Michael Hewitt-Clarke PECCING ORDER
...brother?
@Michael Hewitt-Clarke uub*
Yes..
Beerus introduced the concept of gods.
*pats Kami on the shoulder*
Sorry *powerful gods
@@Capta1nTD Kami was powerful...... back in original DB
@@Capta1nTD Well Kami is the most powerfull
Cauze he has Mr.Popo
Well godly figures.
Sorry gamikai, you just have a title
He seemed like a god back in DB or early Dragon ball Z
“He’s Black”............
Jelly Ninja shoot him
Hold your fire! This man is not black!
@@Spidey-ek4sy He's Goku black
Goku Uzumaki that's the joooooke
@@Spidey-ek4sy I know
Love that Broly abridged reference
MAXIMUISESTEST
Lol same
Napapa:VEGETA! are we there yet?
Vegeta:no
Napapa: are we there yet?
@@m31i0n7 it's nappa not napapa
Zerec Boy Watch the video before commenting dude
The reason Goku black is so strong is because he can say the N-word
Rogito does zamasu have the n word pass
@@andrewsmith3512 Zamasu don't give a shit about passes
@pls delete this channel for me ninga*
Ha now thats what i call a great commebt
NINGEN
The most powerful character is the farmer with a shotgun
mickie true he can wipe out zeno easily
mickie even more powerful than monaka?
orgibal zombie killer Frank West yes but only in his second form full power gold
Still weaker than mr. Popo
Meister Unlucky yes but you seem to forget one thing....
The farmer can use ultra instinct
orgibal zombie killer Frank West so can Monaka
"He's powerful.... He's BLACK! "
Vegetal He’s merciless...HeS bLaCk
The only Reason he was Stronger than Blue Vegeta is because ZENO granted him the Power of the N-Word.
*Broly*
"He's so cool,but he's stupid,but he's so cool"
Frieza: The Goku of Villains
NoJugNeeded More like the opposite, Frieza is a good character with actual development. Goku is just an idiot who can't decide if he's a hero or a fighter.
Not saying Goku is a terrible character, just no where near as good as Frieza.
Hosting Freeza is the guy who gets all the transformations first
GMAX power isn't something were debating it's character
Hosting sorta like how Jiren isn't a good "character" but a
strong fighter
Botamo? More like Winnie The Poo
XMolicMC Word
Finally someone gets it.
Pooh*
REEEEE
The Poop
*_P O O X D D D D D D D D D_*
10:57 who else thought he looked like winnie the pooh?
No? Only me?
Ill let myself out
omg your right
Everyone did. He was still useless though.
Toppo looks like the Lorax.
What do you call a mad Botamo?
TIGGERED
I didn't even have to click the time to know who you were talking about lol
He's merciless, he's powerful, he wants to wipe out every last human, *he's black*
was that intentional? Lmfao
No where just fucked up that's why there fault with that name
I don't get it.
@@Apotheosister hes black as in race
"No dont shoot! Hes not black!"
@@Sullytaan that line though... so racist.
Botamo= If Winnie the Pooh became a fighter
#PoohForFighterZ
Capitán Steaks trueeee
Capitán Steaks
Oh Bother.
Someone pointed it and he looks like pooh with steroids
iv'e thought of this countless times
Capitán Steaks I always thought about that.
Ever since we got Jiren’s backstory, (at fucking last,) I’m still not sure whether that makes him a better character in my eyes. They just recycled the Batman origin story and slapped it on a character. DC comics did it first. What makes it even harder for me is that they explained nothing about Jiren’s strength. We don’t know how he trained, how long he trained, who that evil guy was, who his master was, NOTHING. He’s making Goku look like a more complex character than he really is just by comparison.
And that's the worst part. The potential was there and they could've explained how Jiren became so ASTRONOMICALLY powerful but they didn't and I hope they do address this at some point.
Well, the show is coming back eventually and they kept the identity of the evil guy secret probably because he's a saiyan, perhaps broly or another evil saiyan that we never heard about. And they're definitely setting up the return of jiren and may explain more of his backstory, same with toppo and how he was chosen as a god of destruction candidate. There is still room for explanation and the voice actress of goku even said that she expects the show to get to episode 700
Don't you feel as if Jiren was a deliberate attempt to mock generic Shonen character?
Well I think there will be a seperate arc or movie featuring jiren's backstory just think about it how interesting it would be.
I feel like the evil character the jiren is talking about is Broly
"A female super saiyan and it only took 26 years" alright time to wait 26 more years for a GOOD female super saiyan
NCR Vet Caulifa has been roasted. I repeat, Caluifa has been roasted.
It is in this time of crisis that I do the unthinkable:
Turn to FanFiction.
vsmith smith caulifa ? Like Mia you mean ?
Goten and Trunks go super saiyans like it was nothing no one cares !
Caulifla goes super saiyan like it was nothing every one gets pissed off !
Although I will say that back thing is stupid as hell !
Dark Shadow Spear s cells are why goten and trunks went ssj easily
When I saw frieza and the word Oscar I could only the scene where he kills brolys father which deserved an Oscar
Botamo is just Winnie the Pooh but *T H I C C*
He’s a ROUND B O I
2:38 in Italy he is dubbed by the same guy that dubbed raditz! 😂
How did Ribrianne get a higher score than...
Anything?
Ben Midnight I'm sure your teachers asked that a couple of times .
At least all the others are just fodder
Yeah I know, I just hate Ribrianne
Because Ribrianne isn’t that bad?
CometX-ing because your gay
I’m sorry that was ridiculously cringy but still she’s just annoying and boring
But... But... Guldo could stop time :v
*throws dog treat*
but he has to hold his breath hit (from what i know) dosent
-ZA WARUDO-
Guldo can't attack while stopping time
@@GDRunny he doesn't have to hold his breath (atleast in the manga i forgot about the anime)
Champa deserves more, he's full of personality.
Maybe, but he's whole shtick has gotten annoying for me.
He really isn't Beerus but fat, so I agree. Dude kinda glossed over what made Champa unique.
he is a little TO full of personality..... and cheese burgers..... and fries.
+Austin Baker-Carnley lol
+Austin Baker-Carnley lol
"Prepare For Trouble"
Shit had me dying
Jiren is basically Saitama. He beats everything without breaking a sweat and his backstory is literally he trained a lot. Just like Saitama. He also is bald.
The only problem is that Saitama actually is a better character.
Xyla Harrison yep.
Jiren’s backstory is really lame.
However Jiren is infinitely more powerful. Not a fanboy it’s just facts
Crimson Goku Black That dosen't make him a better character.
Ethan BlitzHD I know
I don't think of Kabba as an antagonist; more of a cute kohai to give Vegeta some crowning moments of heartwarming. Sad that he never treated Trunks that well. Vegeta can still be a jerk at times.
I like how they play with the notions of good and evil all throughout. Beerus is just trying to keep Zen-oh (whom I thought was evil because of what happened to six other universes) satisfied, and has a role in protecting those same Kais who fear him. Then you have Zamasu, a Kai, as the most evil character in the history of the franchise. I also like Hit, but it took ever writers' trick in the book to make an assassin sympathetic. Finally, there's Jiren, who is supposed to be a hero but has no likeable qualities. Hear that, Superman?
I also liked Kale and Caulifla just because it's been too long since a female put up a challenge. Same goes for the stars of Universe 2. I never thought I'd see Toriyama take some Mahou Shoujo for a spin, but I'll take them as a loving parody.
I've always thought Frieza was overhyped and done to death, but the Tournament of Power has made me a believer. Toei has given him just the BEST comedic timing and he's starting to FEEL like a proper Dragon Ball character. He's always been so serious but now he's snarky and wonderful. If Super continues after this arc, I'd love to see more of him.
I can't be the only person who kind of wants to see Freeza win. It sounds like it could create an interesting scenario.
It's because he was turned into a joke since after he died. Every single movie and special with him turned him into fodder which lead people to get tired of the character.
Beastplant1 Who said Freeza wanted to be a destroyer? He wants to rule ALL the universes.
Becoming a God of Destruction would be the first step in ruling all of the universes.
Ash and then he'd try to kill Zeno and fail miserably.
Thought counting 17, skinny buu and the other gods was a bit of a push.
Who was your favourite and least favourite?
Magetta? Dude hes a cinnamon role lava robot. HES AMAZING. (Except in English dub, but we don't talk about that.)
I know you are trolling for rage comments with that 2 for Jiren and 6 for fat sailor moon....but it totally worked on me...damn yooooou ! ! !
to be fair we didn't get a full ep on jiren yet
he apparently have a specific goal in mind
so maybe we'll get more focus on him
it's too early to judge
my favourite is between hit and goku black, my least favourite is ribrihane she is just a shit version of teletabies fuck her
Totally Not Mark you should just call Botamo Winnie the Poohtamo
4:33 "Really cool design with a fun idea. Classic yet fresh" I thought he said Classic yet TRASH lol
Well I'll be damned...a dragonball super video where the creator doesnt complain about Caulifla and Kale.
David : Soul Food Gaming
this is like the oasis in this kale and caulifla hating desert.
same here Spiceymelon. its like ppl DONT want female super Saiyans. that or everyone thinks Goku and Vegeta will live forever and don't need other Saiyans to take their place as the heroes of Dragon Ball. news flash, Toriyama is going to kill off Goku and Vegeta at SOME POINT. its going to be from old age tho, not from an actual fight. hence why there is Cabba, Caulifla, Kale, Trunks, Goten, and Gohan.
Wolfheart They would never kill Goku or Vegeta and of they did well they could revive them with the dragon balls XD
Wolfheart mainly because
*TINGLY FEELING IN THE BACK IS NOT HARD ENOUGH*
criticizing female characters is not allowed here. its a safe space.
Beerus is still the best Super character by a long shot. He keeps saving Super just appearing.
Yeah, well, my alltime favourite dragon ball character is Frieza, but Beerus is still in my top 5.
He’s more like Bulmas bitch now tbh
MattyBoy J hahaha
is that dark schnieder in the pic ?
Yes. Frieza and Beerus keep the show in my heart
I can review Zamasu in two words. Subarashii and Ningen.
Oh - by the way: "and" is not a descriptive word so whoever is not joking should get some serious help.
Yakusoku no Ji That’s.... That’s... 3 words.
Joseph filthy NINGEN
I can review UI Goku in one word.
TATAKAU!!!!!!!!!
Yakusoku no Ji HAKAI!
Yakusoku no Ji you're my nigga
Blasphemy! Everyone know Pilaf is the best DB villain.
Am I being sarcastic or not? That's for you to decide.
😕 oh I understand it 😐👉
One of the oldest too
Disagree with Frieza. I think Goku African American gets the number 1 spot. He's definitely the most compelling villain on the show.
And Jiren is indeed wack.
Rogue dr3amerrr slitley -_-
Rogue dr3amerrr to clarify the word your looking for is slightly
And that's a face with slits for eyes and mouth
Goku African American xD.
;)
why the hell is RIBRIANNE 6/10 no no no
kevin Patterson FORMATION
and how is claulifla and kale anything higher than a three?!
Yeah Claulifa well not my thing but you know I can see why some people would like her
But Kale ?
She's just Broly without the only thing that made Broly kinda great (or slightly interesting at least) in the first place and a really stupid reason to go berserker instead (a fucking cliche yandere in dragon ball what the fuck)
Tbh I thought that Ribrianne was kinda funny for the first 10 minutes, it's just that Toei won't let her go so it gets old and annoying really quickly imo
She not there cause she's a boss bitch .
fuck that dieabetic bitch
Your right with jiren. He doesn't need to show emotion because he hasn't interacted with anyone but Goku, I feel like once Goku starts pushing him he will show some personality then we can judge him but until then vegeta vs topo is all I care about.
Voltstar actually i feel like he showed more emotion on hit
Voltstar yeah that’s what happened with Hit. He was boring but Goku bright out the martial artist within him
What are you talking about? He’s had every chance to interact with someone either a enemy or teammate, yet he just acts like they don’t even exist.
Voltstar
I think he hasn't shown any emotion because he's among scrubs... He's just simply bored... I would be too if I was surrounded by insects with no interest of being there... It's not his fault they haven't revealed his backstory yet....
Like seriously, he went on to meditate... That's how bored he was
Ayush deshmukh lmao that's not an excuse. Hell I've seen more personality by Galactus, who's surrounded by weaklings.
9:58”No back story”
Literally Belmod in t.o.p:*takes a whole episode to tell Jiren’s back story*
“whole episode” it was 2-3 minutes lol
Excatly that is so true.I said the exact same thing because he had a whole episode for his backstory and he has a personality
@Average Cabbage Ohhh,so that's why he thought that.Thanks
@@brulk416 Doesn't change it though. His Backstory was the most generic thing the could've went with and his motivation is just lame.
Toppo or the Pride Troopers in general: Zamasu would get along with them just for the sole purpose of constantly spouting Justice over. And over. And over again.
It's just a joke.
6:43 *TIME SKIP JOKE SETS IN* 😅
Hunter X05 STILL LUCKY?!
Wow I didn't even catch that 😂
True
Hunter X05 I
Hunter X05 I don't get it
>ribrianne 6/10
>jiren 2/10
the fucc
TheRandomDude Jiren has personality though.
TheRandomDude Jiren refused to fight in the ToP until Toppo said that there was a wish with the Super Dragon Balls. He didn't want to fight because he didn't want to cause other universes to be erased. That's not personality?
Guess Who
1. Ribrianne has more personality than Jiren
2. Jiren literally exists to be an obstacle that will be erased from existence.
TheRandomDude 1. "No personality" > Annoying character that everyone hates.
2. Obstacle that is extremely tough > Annoying fat character
I agree with Jirens score but ribrianne too high
Zeno isn't an antagonist really he is just a strict boss
"Waste your time skipping"
Good one
finally someone else noticed it lol
Jiren may yet get some backstory and unveil a personality, Hit was much the same until right at the end of the previous tournament. He was just set up to be a rival for Goku but really pulled it around after that. But until that happens I completely agree.
Anthony Ray chapter 30 gave him way more personality and backstory
His design is still boring af
Ray Ishima yes
now hes kinda okay i guess
Number 1: twitter for spoiling everything lol
Also Facebook
WHO THE FUCK USES FACEBOOK?
AppleHaze [Voice Acting] 1/6 of the global population.
Thank you for your Kale description, us DBZA boys appreciate it
when you relize the namek frogs had more personality than Jiren
Halo Devil shit thats true
I think he hasn't shown any emotion because he's among scrubs... He's just simply bored... I would be too if I was surrounded by insects with no interest of being there... It's not his fault they haven't revealed his backstory yet.... Like seriously, he went on to meditate... That's how bored he was... He has a personality but he might as well be depressed in that tournament setting...
Halo Devil jezz I wonder what other anime does this kind of crap oh wait I forgot every anime idiotic western fanbase
Ayush deshmukh well we saw kale n califla fuse sooo Blue Gogeta or Blue Vegito ?
That should give jiren something to wake up for
+Ayush deshmukh Stop pasting your shit argument everywhere you scrub
Thank god someone finally shits on Jiren. People hate on Kale and Caulifla but give guys like a Jiren a pass?????
So is jiren, he is basically Broly without the lore behind him that makes him intriguing.
DoubleSunday lol Goku's struggle and death or life situation could have been settled with a tingly like feeling in the back.
Literally the solution for namek saga
DoubleSunday no don't bring good characters into this because they all started as good character and not cheap goku needs a new rival type. 2 what it's like you people don't want to see a good fight and goku was already exablish to be weaker if you bothered to listen.
I can't stand the dbs fanbase anymore
Kale and Caulifa deserve to be shit on honestly. To waltz in and have the tingly thing still annoys me. It feels like they put female saiyans in just to have them. It was as if Toei wanted to make up for the lack of them in previous times.
OMFG That "Justice" had me dying... 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Giggle Kiñg JASTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEC
6/10
Needed picture of a guy dabbing.🤓
Justice is now worthless, Hakai
“I never knew the Deep Sea King had a sister?” 😂😂😂 too good
Jiren = Sasuke
I bet his entire clan "race" was wiped out, and he wants to get even stronger so that he can beat the one who did it; (*insert plot twist here*) Grand Priest.
Dang. I was actually halfway right lol. His village was wiped out :D
死KidBeta XL
I mean Sasuke just took Vegetas back story
Klxwn Not really since Itachi, Shisui, Hiruzen, Danzo, the village elders, and even Obito were involved.
Way more plot there than that Man of Steel knock-off...
bruh
死KidBeta XL db been out before naruto though
He’s merciless, he’s powerful, he wants to erase all of humanity!
He’s black 😂 (plz don’t get mad I was just quoting the video)
Cosmog Playz oh no, I’m black! REEEEE
Cosmog Playz I was gonna quote that.
Then I realized I was more than a month late
IKR LOOOOLLLL LMAOOO!!! 😂😂😂😭🤣😂🤣🤚🏿
He’s...White’r’ then black*
Cosmog Playz As a Black guy, I approve
0:49
First of all how dare you
Nice Dragon Quest profile pic what's your favorite game in the series?
Rory Obrien I can't decide between eight nine and five but they are all great
Same. I'm really excited for 11's release on the switch.
Garrettp375 I thought they were suppose to be comic relief
“He’s merciless, he’s powerful, he wants to wipe out every last human, he’s black.”
I don’t know how I feel about this
Ribrianne having a higher score than jiren.......... Wtf
Termanator FiveEightSeven Ribrianne has a personality at least. People only care about Jiren because he's a tough boi.
Vashkey i'd rather have a character with no personality than a character whos annoying as shit and no one likes
Agreed, Jiren has being overpowered ,what does Ribrianne has? Looking like a maid?
She's supposed to be annoying though. A character doesn't have to be like-ale to be good.
I think he hasn't shown any emotion because he's among scrubs... He's just simply bored... I would be too if I was surrounded by insects with no interest of being there... It's not his fault they haven't revealed his backstory yet.... Like seriously, he went on to meditate... That's how bored he was..
But Ribrianne is supposed to be a parody. It's not her fault that you don't get the obvious joke.
Every time the word “fodder” is said take a shot.
Anime Toppo is indeed annoying. But manga Toppo is wayy more interesting
Senpaiu manga is way better story/pace wise while the anime is better fight/action wise. I like how in the manga they are slowly building up the powers tho. They haven’t introduced SSB Kaioken yet which is good for pacing
Im pretty sure the manga is not gonna have kaioken. Like how the anime won't have perfected ssjb
Thats the thing if two different heads working on one series and that the anime is infront of the manga.
Cam Gaines the manga has better fight scenes and choreography then the anime. Facts only.
Senpaiu ha good one
“He’s just this big brute who’s powerful because FUCK YOU”
I died 😂
I think the jiren part is unfair. Well besides the personality bit... his personality is boring but look back to hit. He wasn't so different from jiren before we learned more about him. I'm waiting until we wrap up the arc to see if he's any good in the end
Well when it gets to that point, then he'd probably change it after the arc if he decides to make another video, but for now, this is what we know: He's the strongest mortal ever, nothing can beat him, his design is boring, and we know NOTHING about his personality besides strong. I think he scored him just fine for right now, but if they give him a decent back story about how/why he became so strong, he'd go up, just have to wait.
I think he hasn't shown any emotion because he's among scrubs... He's just simply bored... I would be too if I was surrounded by insects with no interest of being there... It's not his fault they haven't revealed his backstory yet.... Like seriously, he went on to meditate... That's how bored he was
Ayush deshmukh I agree, there's just nothing for him right now, but I don't like his design right now, maybe I'll grow to like it with a decent backstory, but for now he's not very interesting. It's one of those characters that need more to it besides "Big and strong" which will come later on.
To add to Blindfire's post, Hit does have more things working for him when he first appeared than Jiren. Hit defeated Vegeta quite easily. That took about 6 episodes to see. Jiren shows he is a threat when he defeated Kale. 16 episodes since his appearance. So the build up to him being a threat was much shorter.
When Hit was fighting Vegeta, something seemed off. He wasn't as powerful or as fast as him, but he managed to hit Vegeta all of a sudden. And despite Vegeta's best efforts, he seems to be too fast. This was showing off his ability to Time Skip before it was revealed. And it was a good 6 minutes too based off youtube clips. Jiren just one shots Kale with a generic blast and Sentai pose.
And when Hit was fighting Goku, we got to see more of his personality. We got to see how his fighting style works. His appreciation for someone pushing him as far as Goku did. Wanting to improve himself as well when strategically it was best for the attack. We got to see a lot of Hit during his fight with Goku that made him more interesting of a character.
With Jiren, we don't see much when he fought Goku at the time. He does things every character can do, just stronger. Even when Goku goes Ultra Instinct, he still acts the same as if nothing has changed. Not even a smile for a possible challenge. Even Hit smiled after a while.
Jiren could be an interesting character, but for now he is boring.
AkumaTh here's the thing though. The episode thing is fair but that's a result off the arcs becoming longer. As for his personality for those episodes hit just stood around and slept much like jiren. Not to mention hit didn't really get interesting until goku pushed hit to his limit. It wasn't just fighting goku. As for Jiren he hasn't been pushed by goku like hit was as for his powers we have seen some very interesting powers centered around his eyes. He seems to be able to hit with just his eyes. He stopped the spirit bomb with his eyes he stopped hits rasengan with his eyes. There's something special about his eyes something they've been focusing on
I can't believe you Ribranne at a 6. That's just so......... disappointing.
AJ Moses and jiren 2
Hamza • ハムザ
You're right. He deserves a 1. =P
She's suppsed to be a joke, a parody. It's not her fault that you don't get the joke
The Great And Powerful Trixie 0 😉
She overstays her welcome, but shes at least a fun character with a personality. Jiren would actually be nothing without his strength.
Hey I didn’t know jello apocalypse uploaded...wait
Zachary Stamp ha
Mark: Beerus introduced the concept of Gods.
Kami from inside of Piccolo's head: Am I a joke to you?
I like Jiren now because he is actually badass. I feel a personality is starting to show, and even if it's not very defined, it's better than a terrible one! Ribrianne had more of a personality, but that personality was so fucking annoying!
Well.. Got some. Bad news.
Universe 11 is gone.
Marly The cat they were revived literally a minute later
You really hit the nail on the head with the comparison of Jiren to Broly. Yeah, Jiren might have the chance to be expanded upon in terms of his personality and actually gain a dimension to his character, but, like you said, until then his character is summed up with "really strong guy." Not exactly riveting stuff there.
Hell, at least Broly has a cool design, a unique and brutal fighting style, and at least some degree of character-driven motivation, as bare-bones and full of missed potential as it was.
You missed out fused zamasu, did you forget him or intentionally miss him?
MidgetAbsol oh shit yeah
MidgetAbsol probably intentionally bc you cant forget him
Well he's basically an emotionally unstable crybaby Zamasu...
Ayush deshmukh lmfao i love Merged Zamasu
I mean he's pretty much Zamasu again just crazier
1:33 Is anyone going to talk about how perfect that was?
That's what I'm saying he can sing
I agree with you on Jiren. If not for his strength, Jiren would simply be forgettable. Hopefully we get to know more about him in later episodes, but as of right now, there’s only one thing to remember him by.
DahrkoEntity Here's the thing, he has a personality... IN THE MANGA. I'm sorry but the storyboarders for the anime just decided "Hey, lets just make Jiren a fucking blank slate with 0 personality on the outside, but make him super strong!" "But, he kinda needs a personality to make him likeable." "Nah, just make him really fucking strong. The fans will eat it up."
Manga writer: "I'll show you to butcher a perfectly good character like that."
I'd give Hit & Beerus a 10. And Goku black deserves a 9 at least! Jiren was just introduced in this tournament, we don't know about anyone's backstory yet. How can we know anything about him? He's not like Brolly, we knew Brolly's backstory when he was introduced and it was the stupidest backstory ever. Whereas all we know about Jiren yet is that he has a wish for which he's fighting in the tournament & that's the only reason. The most powerful guy in Universe 11, who's stronger than his GoD, doesn't want to become the next GoD. He has a wish, what can it be? He's not a character without a backstory he's just a mysterious character. We'll get to know more about him in the future!
I wanted to like Goku Black and Zamasu more, but I just don't feel they were as well executed as well as they could have been.
brolly brolly brolly brolly brolly brolly
TheJadeFist I can agree on zamasu but black was played out perfectly in my opinion. We always wondered what a goku who never hit his head as a child would look like and the plans were similar(to eradicate all humanity).
His backstory is out now and it's even worse than Broly's
Adrian Wells exactly what he said
Where is merged Zamasu?
Merged Zamasu: (7/10) Should've ended the arc here
"He's merciless, he's powerful, he wants to wipe out every last human, he's black." Don't know if I should be offended or not.
By "BLACK" he means his name.
Jemni Block yes he knows. That’s the joke
Goku Black is my Favourite Dragon ball character
AdamInsane 11037 same
AdamInsane 11037 most boring villain ever
Wait out of all DB or just super?
Disliked. Jiren has a backstory. He's El Hermanos brother and has a long history with El Grande Padre delicadoing his compadres to the point it drove him insane.He turned to a life of crime before joining the Sordados Del Orgullo and this arch is about his redemption and him defeating Regles Des Todos and El Grande Padre with Gohan Blanco Calvo (Completado).
Your Mom Probably a way more interesting backstory right here than what Super'll give him.
And he's a marcianito 100% real no fake
El Grande Padre
(English translation) Big Daddy
Your Mom what the fucko, where did u find that backstory fromo
Wot
The only one I have a major problem with is the Giant Snake. A three, really? The Pilaf gang is much more interesting. They appear in multiple episodes, provide comic relief, actually have dialogue, etc. Mai even has a role in the Zamasu arc. That snake should either have a negative one, zero, or one.
Gamer X [Dayton] to be comic relief they actually need to be funny
I would rather get to know more about the Giant Snake to see one episode with the Pilaf gang. The were funny... in 1984.
Yeah how can people honestly not like the pilaf gang they’re fucking awesome and hilarious
i miss when pilaf was actually a good villian. Bring back his mechs! They could even make them bulmas mechanic apprentices; since they were already skilled as adults before the child wish.
5:38 "make it double"
Najib Abubakr NO SHIT SHERLOCK
Najib Abubakr To extend our region to the stars above
Silver Dude L for messing up the motto
deiondre0 Believe me I know I messed it up. Cuz I started watching the Gen 3 season and I heard them saying it
Here's a question for ya guys. Why do all of the main opponents have such similar designs? Frieza, Cell, Buu, Hit, and Jiren, all have the rectangular ear holes, and all of them besides Cell have bald, round heads.
JP toriyama hates bald square-eared people
they all have a frieza like design lol since he was the first real villain in Z, actually all the villains took some aspect of frieza
rob andres I think hit king cold and cell look alike and majin buu for the ears
Jiren (to me) *Certainly* gets ironic enjoyment out of me.
Like. Goku gets shit on, AFTER a new transformation. Thats worth something, isn't it?
-7 for me (with honours)
TheKiroshi goku will get his ass beaten again in 10 days
When he puts jiren below some assassins that had a total of 5 minutes of screentime
Average Cabbage The assassins had no character at all, at least jiren had a character somewhat
@@heck6757 The assassins didn't need to be good characters though. They were just unimportant side characters, and didn't need that much developement. Jiren was supposed to be the main antagonist of the arc, but he did not fit that role, he was just a walking power level to overcome, while he shoud've been an interesting fleshed out character with a personality and all that. He was just way more disappointing so he deserves a lower ranking.
It takes a while, but you'll learn Jiren's past and understand his personality.
Toppo is cool at the end btw.
Maybe Jiren has PTSD and is just keeping himself together by staying silent and getting stronger as a measure to keep himself and people he cares about safe
Nah, he's just a lame ass character
"Boy this universe is screwed" Becomes in top 3, even tho it probably gets eliminated next ep :/
I found the trio of danger the most annoying, cause they laugh every 2 seconds during the episodes
Yep. I hate Jiren too.
I cringed wen his bacstory was give.. soo generic and stupid. I would have had him had gained a dragonball wish in his universe that he made him self invincible and is now seeking the Super Dragon Balls to undo that wish so he could be normal again. Much more impactful.
Kindakoolbutfail Games me too, he's trash
Same, boring and uninteresting garbage
He actually seemed good at first in my opinion but turning him into a villain at the end was such a slap in the face I couldn't even root for him at the end I couldn't root for anyone i do feel like 17 was a good surprise as last fighter on stage
Shinjin • Jiren was always a good guy.
"Jiren does'nt have a backstory." Heh, that's where your wrong kiddo!
Ok, jiren has a backstory. But it's a shitty backstory that doesn't make any difference in the story.
GM unless you watch the mexican version
Birger Ydstie lol he has
GM you are mad cuzz when this will happen to you will understand lol get lost
Jiren is super lame he has a cliché back story and boring design
Super said let put a super man bootleg body with an alien head
My boy back to making videos we are a loyal fan base indeed
Holy crap that Street Sharks joke brought back a whole Pandoras BOX of childhood memories
Zen-Oh is like Stewie Griffin.
Has an undeniable evil behind that adorable football head.
But Jiren's number is SO BIG!!!! HE HAS THE BIGGEST NUMBER EVER!!!!
Goku Black is the best
Tix Nofal09 and evil buu
goku Black Nigga you trash
Romeo well fuck you you bitch
1:32 Woah ... *starts clapping* I didn't know you could sing, let alone sing so well, Disney should hire you lol
Personally I love Jiren and his whole meditation silence thing. I'm sure we'll learn more about him later
4 episodes tell super ends still waiting
You are True His Back Story is coming soon in tomorrow video
And it was 100% shit
Vincent Velasquez I actually enjoyed it
Really to me it was an over fucking used clichés that 100% gets old really quick when you see it a thousand times
Black is my favourite villain. He is so ruthless, strong, and just overall fucked up.
Marshall Xeno Yeah He is cool but he isn’t really that ruthless. A real ruthless savage would be someone like Broly. And Jiren is starting to show that too.
The Legendary Soldier he literally killed Gokus family in the future
The Legendary Soldier black not only desecrated trunks future l, mostly killing all the humans and killed all of the gods he was LIterally going to spread and take over the multiverse did broly do that? No he just destroyed a galaxy and scared the slaves from the false planet
Blazing D Amazing according to you neither did goku black almost isn’t actually doing something
Blazing D Amazing lol Broly did all that. Black didn’t even finish killing all mortals and killing a god of destruction is no feat. As the death of his or hers kai-oshin... meaning that fucking suppressed Yamcha at under 0,001% of his power could have killed the gods. Bruh. He was gonna to take over the galaxy. Not the multiverse he didn’t even finish conquering the solar system. Yeah yeah Goku Black didn’t have any rivals or anyone to stop him. His Galaxy universe was literally empty with weakened trash Trunks. Broly had to fight Z Warriors at top strength and Mystic Gohan and much more. Broly is more savage end of the conversation. Lol if you gave Broly a god form he’d rip Black apart... he already could take Fucking Goku and shred him to pieces he would do the same to Black. If he had God Ki that is. So what is is that black could have done all that but that isn’t a feat since he didn’t have anyone to battle and when he got somebody to battle he even lost. And Broly did all his feats alone while Black has Zamasu‘ help.
YOU FORGOT ABOUT THE BOSS HIT KILLED
Was he a villain tho?
“He’s just this big dude that’s powerful because fV*k YOU!” Lol
You used 11 words for Gryll.
Mr. Nameless exposed
Nope learn your grammar bud the hyphenated words count as one
Totally Not Mark: he's merciless he's powerful he wants to wipe out every last human, he's BLACK!!!
Me: what you're racist!!!!!!1
You should see the English dub when the resistance members first see Goku... "HE'S NOT BLACK!" X'D
Mayyybe?
HOLD YOUR FIRE THIS MAN ISN'T BLACK
Was Sidra actually bojack in the future
Actually hermila looks like bojack
Sufyaan Kinslow obviously no
*insert sr pelo dramitic gasp*
You called zeno a football head, you will now be destroyed.
Baby was a better villain than Jiren
But jiren isnt a villain =/
Josh Bishop yes he was.
Not a great comparison if you're trying show how bad Jiren is. In my opinion, Baby was a great villain
Dontae G so true.
Even dr. Gero was a better antagonist than Jiren
Agree with EVERYTHING you said about Jiren. He serves next to no purpose other than to just be a challenge for Goku.
FimWritersGroup I agree: Jiren is just ridiculously strong and powerful the point of being a god in his base form, and simply because Goku needed a challenge.
I hate people who complain about Jiren design, what did you expect? Another Saiyan like, Rainbow haired, big clawed, furry side, golden eyes design? No thanks, I love the way Jiren is simple and cool.
Romo Reyes Problem is...
Is it given to and boring a bad character. Just uses Batman’s origin and is basically Saitama but dull. At least Saitama had character and had personality. Jiren has none of that.
@@SenatorArmstrong2018 Jiren does have personality, although I'm his fan, I do aknowledge he has a cliché past story but I do like his personality, cold, serious, but can be detonated with anger, no other DB character was like that, so it is considered as a unique personality.
Romo Reyes He May have one, but it is not good for him. Goku should have that.
@@SenatorArmstrong2018 His personality is logical for someone who lost everything more than once, Goku should not have it cause he always had Friends and family and was always happy.
Romo Reyes Jiren's design just like common frieza soldier
4:15 the creature was changed in production to just being invisible, with a chameleon like image, but they were slightly more original