Helldivers 2 - Best Method to Farm Samples VS Automatons & Walkthrough/Guide
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- Helldivers 2 - Best Method to Farm Samples VS Automatons & Walkthrough/Guide
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0:00 FARM SAMPLES
2:12 Walkthrough starts
15:09 Friendship Rope Is Pain - Ігри
It makes no sense to me, i rather get kicked out of the mission for trying to get samples and pull aggro away from the civilians than try doing this 7-9 while holding up in there.
Yeah trying to play the mission on helldive with everyone at the objective is hell
They don't get that the spawns are diffrent for this. Alot of the player base thinks you can just out kill em and the lower difficulties you can. Doesn't work on suicidal and higher from what I've seen
Even if you fail the mission you can extract
I did this quest and the host just did the objective but didn't try to get any samples. Also people don't know that the extraction doesn't leave until time is up, as long as no one goes in, it won't start the count down. Till then
The bots are already too strong and for some reason they spawn something like 100% more than any other mission
Honorable mention, Diamond can also show that there is a weapon so if you don't see any samples pick up the weapon and change back to your 3rd weapon back. If the diamond dissapears it was only the weapon if its still there you missed something.
Also the empty small groundbunkers where ammo or sometimes a weapon lays there can be marked as a diamond even tho nothing is there. Searched in a four person squad and found nothing so its either e bug or a troll
This mission being an absolute NIGHTMARE unless you're willing to go and do research online to figure out the 'trick' is just bad mission design. Everyone should want to be where the civilians are to protect them, and the game punishes that through a system that isn't clear. The new Defense mission is how to do it RIGHT. They need to rework this mission type, badly.
Edit: And here comes the 'skill issue" crowd. Ya'll can seriously stuff it. You aren't helping, you don't add to the conversation, you're a waste of space.
Id normally disagree and call it a "skill issue" but the fact that some players don't know what to after so many weeks, makes me agree
Are there even samples on the new defense missions? I haven't seen or gotten any from those
Yeah this mission is just poorly designed. I love it but, it needs some work because that's an absurd and roundabout way to do the mission
Man Ive been getting kicked this whole major order for running around and pulling ships etc. And chastised for not 'being on point'.
@@fuzzyotterpaws4395 There are zero samples in that mission last I checked, you're entirely meant to drop in the mission area and dig yourself in at the base
When grinding for Super samples I find level 8 better than 7 or 9 cause you get five super samples rather than only three you get from level 7 or the six you get form 9. Don’t think the difficulty increase warrants going up especially since you only need multiples of 5 for upgrades anyways
super samples are the least of anyone's worries when you look at the conversion for pricing
@@OhDoughyou can convert them?
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You need 100 super samples for all 6 new module upgrades. But you need 900!! RARE SAMPLES! no one cares about fucking purples samples. Fuck 7, 8, & 9. Lvl6 is the place to farm. Morons
@@goreobsessed2308 no, like you need so many more common/rare samples. you need 3-4 missions worth of super samples, but you need somewhere between 6-8 missions worth of common and rare samples.
the thing about this mission is, it doesn't make any logical sense despite doing what you're supposed to and genuinely helping and I think this is 100% on the devs for making it ass backwards.. The design of this mission and the strategy that you're doing, which you're right about, seems to the average player like the most illogical thing anyone can do and most players think you're trolling even though you're really not. That's why this always needs to be explained to almost any team, because who out there without checking these videos, could possibly understand from what you're doing that this is The Strat?.
I can attest to that, I completely forgot your video where you explained this about this mission type (because I personally despise this mission as much as the exterminate ones, maybe more now after doing more of both) and because of that, I actually thought one of our teammates going off road was just doing whatever, even though he quite possibly saved the mission and got us the super samps.. The fact that I need to check again with the community just to refresh my memory on this esoteric strategy says how much this mission type is a hot burning mess.
Honestly it's up to them. It's like people who sandbag and blame you for not being there and commiting to their to join in. I usually spend most of my time getting kicked for going on my own when I do side missions or hives by myself. I can't help when people tunnel in a difficulty they don't belong in. Like a lot of people just don't want to or try to get better or do best and just trust their teammates. Usually when running a four man we split into two two man groups. Usually both people aren't dying at the same time.
@TheDboykiller yea I get this, getting teams that agro the map and then dig in trying to fight a loosing battle, meanwhile im off clearinf sides etc and getting the sampes while they burn through most of the reinforcement budget.
@@ramrod1016 then you end up at the end with two reinforcements left and three teammates down and they complain that it's your fault when you run the whole map and don't die.
Honestly it made sense to me after seeing how big the map was if it wasnt supposed to be explored it wouldn’t be that big. Having a squad cause a distraction while a sneaky boi pushes buttons makes the most sense of all.
and the mission can just break n the idiot vips just stack outside the door like they are waiting in line at a club
I honestly thought I wouldn’t have to farm after getting max resources but here we are 😂
Just wanted to say man, i had no idea thats how this mission worked. This was an absolute mind blower thanks for the vid!!
This mission is just flat out broken. If they want us to play like this, then they should make it more reliable. Majority of the time when we try to leave 1 person in the objective area, the bot drops still goes to the objective area even though 3 people are gathering samples far away.
I think u do need to be fighting something to get a drop tho
You have to be actively fighting bots to get them to pull towards you
One of these days I'll get a squad of people with this mentality. I look forward to the day I find an OhDough in my squad.
I’ll add you , let’s run it
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@@rjswank@Maximum_Twang down to run it for the samples
Helldivers 2 is a VERY popular game. That means the incidence of illiteracy, Zerg behaviour and idiocy is WAY higher than for the average other objective based play.
I'm against that argument, however, because it's not free to play. Free 2 Play games are much worse with the number of people exhibiting outright bad behavior, having skill issues, not knowing what to do, or are often filled with (very) young people.
God I need this guy on my squad
Thanks for the strat man! Gonna havw to give it a try this week
This is awesome!! I’ve never seen so many samples being collected in a single game before. Great informative video! 🎉
It's 2 am and I was trying to find out how to best grind these samples and this is the perfect video, thank you. I just have to attend my classes tomorrow and then I can try this out. Also, I personally find what kind of bots/bugs your gonna get from breaches/drops entirely depended on the rng of your first drop/breach, for example, whenever I have bile spewers for my first breach, you can't go a single breach without at least 3-4 bile spewers (For dif 7+ btw) and the same is for bots, you get berserkers or whatever you want to call them and all your drops will contain at least 3-4, though, I personally think it's so much worse with either heavy or rocket devastators.
Ahhhh thx for explaining the sample icons on the map and how they change after you collect them 🤝🏾
For people playing this mission and that stay on the obj, bring quasar and EAT. Shoot down every drop ship. It makes defending much much easier
I once had a super nice guy in difficulty 8 explaining this strat of 3 people outside the mission and 1 guy doing the objective and honestly we, a full squad of randoms tried this mission 2 times, the first as one would normally do and then this strat and holy the difference was abysmal, I hope there are more guys like him
Most people don't like to think. They'll beat their heads against a wall over and over rather than go around.
Me and my brother and law just beat that mission on dif 7 by staying on objective. We both used EMS Mortar, mortar, AutoCannon turret and auto cannons. 0 samples 😅
You say 2 on the objective and 2 out farming, but imo 3 out farming is ideal. You can literally just have one person running in a circle pressing buttons, who never really has to fight, as long as he's mindful of a random patrol that might wander around or through the objective.
Having this be the method to effectively farm samples is absolute hell, making the latest batch of ship upgrades prohibitively expensive and virtually unobtainable. Just once, I would love to match up with a group who knew how to handle this mission type, and not get pissy when I'm off trying to collect samples.
UAV Recon booster actually reveals where the POIs in the map whenever you hover a mouse over them.
It was bugged before but I guess its fixed now cause I've been using it lately and it always works.
Thank you for saying it. Lvl 57 here. Not everyone wants to Gung go chatty Kathy comms when playing. There's enough tools to communicate without having to talk. Lol usually if I drop with 40+, things tend to go well, nice and smooth. Below though.... Especially in suicide+, it's a toss up. People get salty and d/c way to quickly. If we get wiped first 10 minutes, it's far from over. Bad hot drops happen all the time. Biggest form of comms that help are pings and way points. If a helldiver can do that, then they're a prime defender of democracy in my book
Dude, I've got about 120 hours in the game and this strategy is the best one I've seen for grinding samples. But I gotta say: the getting kicked bullshit is really killing my desire to keep grinding this game. Great vid, man.
In the player bases defense, not "playing the objective as a group" feels counter intuitive. 😅
And as I admitted in one of your previous videos about the mission, it never occurred to me that the general spawn rules don't apply here. Until you explained it, that is.
*edit* And whelp, people rarely using the chat unless they are angry at a team mate.
it IS counter intuitive though, you will get rewarded for most missions and most difficulties working as a group only helldive and maybe impossible, is where everyone starts to split and does their own thing because of how easily you can death spiral if you stay together
I play diff 7 to 9 missions exclusively, and I must admit I didn't knew this. To be fair I avaif this kind of mission like the pest unless I play with 3 others friends.
I'd recommend starting at Hard or Extreme difficulty if you do not need purple samples (magenta, red violet or pink, depending on how your screen renders colors).
For Extreme, the map still spawns 27-30 common samples, but with much less armored enemies. Hard can be a good place to start practicing this run. If your teammates extract too early (which people tend to do, as they do not care about samples being extracted whatsoever), then it is an indication to increase the difficulty.
I was so excited to officially use the stalwart as a primary weapon with the use of the new ship upgrade... rip the dream for now lol (bought it immediately and can confirm that both the supply backpack and normal resupply do not work)
Do they even playtest??
@@cakes1831 no
Great walkthrough thanks…. Autocannon is my fave secondary weapon …
Ran this in suicidal 7/9 yesterday “for the lols” literally had nowhere to run to on several occasions due to the don’t stop the drops until the map is FILLED with tanks, titans and devastators mentality to the spawns and several of the runs I had 2-3 tanks or hulks in EVERY available path bearing in mind they both can oneshot tank at range and hulk via a single flame-hit or just rag doll you into the floor for 3-4 seconds.
This was with me actively trying not to engage very often, spot them super-“lightbulb” keep mobile and apply MAXIMUM dakka n boom if engaged (eagle strikes, quaso, deathray n shield) then run/kite because there was no way in hell I could kill 1 drip before 3 others had landed around me (10+ times I got auto-respawn, thrown into the blender and ragdolled or fried before the pod-exit animation had completed).
If that’s the mission while NOT looking for a fight I’d despise it even more if I tried ti play the objective.
Probably the best way to do this mission is have a full squad of four split up into two individuals and one duo. One individual takes full smokes and coats the objective in it nonstop while rescuing the teams (running through smoke seems to significantly lower the odds of the drops targeting you), the other individual runs around getting samples and taking some heat, while the duo runs around grabbing any samples in their path and taking as much heat as possible by fighting everything they see. This will keep the objective mostly clear of enemies aside from patrols wandering in, and the sample collector will be able to do their thing mostly unimpeded as well, while the duo just obliterates everything in sight. I imagine that once they fix the resupply upgrade bug, having one person on this duo run AC and wear a supply pack while the other team loads them with the railgun or quasar on hand for big targets, they’ll be able to effectively fend off the horde while keeping its enmity with a cozy 510 AC rounds to burn through. It might even be beneficial for the sample collector to take support weapon and/or backpack stratagems for the duo to grab at the start of the mission, so the duo can take advantage of having four slots each for offensive and emplacement stratagems. It would take coordination and quite a bit of skill, but it might make for a rather smooth, consistent, and lucrative rescue mission. Thoughts? Suggestions? Ideas?
I wish I could join you on your sample runs. I am not good enough at the game myself to do this.
For this avg solo queue player, super samples are what I need most so big thanks for those who help make extraction possible. ❤
I love when I have a team member that goes on his own and just cleans out point of interests etc. It feels so effecient while the rest of us are doing the main objectives.
X pipe was bewt and the single w/ xpipe was also really good. Best sounding s58 I've heard so far
I have the Superior Packing Methodology upgrade (resupply bricks give full ammo to your support weapon) and it does indeed seem to be bugged. The Spear backpack gets fully restocked, but the Recoilless Rifle only gets 3 rockets, the AMR only gets 3 mags, the Machine Gun & HMG only get 1 mag each, and the Railgun only gets 10 bolts per brick. I didn't test with any other support weapon nor did I test with the Supply Pack.
This tip may have been shared already, but if you pause the video at 6:37, on the minimap, there is a slightly brighter silver roundish blob with a dark spot in it, at the half past 7 o'clock edge of the map. That is the rock where one can find those purple super samples. Try to recognize this, zoom in if you must, to find this particular FIFA World Cup kind of shaped rock.
Did this today and got kicked
😂
Lol
Ty for doing this
I've been finding a lot of success splitting off taking out the smaller hot spots and and collecting samples. While the other three do main objectives.
i feel like the current play base are kinda 50% due to the fault for the game/map design such that did not convey(or baby-sitting) this is intended way to solve the puzzle
This explains so much why this mission sucks so bad! Yesterday I was getting so pissed because I kept getting dropped in these missions and every time it was just like at your end mission. I am still kinda noob status I would say, I had no idea the trick to beat the mission. I also wish people were more willing to sample hunt in general
I would personally recommend hosting if you're gonna do sample runs like this. I've joined these mission types several times, seen that nobody else is doing the samples so I go do it myself and then when there's 2-3 min left I suddenly get kicked after grabbing ~90% of the samples.
Some planets I swear mobs target me easier with or without scout passive. ty for that tip about the diamond icon.
If you're with a solid group and you know them enough to do side objective and samples. Grouping with randoms can be very mild and mixed, heck some just want to do the main objective and leave. It'll be great if everyone was on the same page, but not always the case.
That’s the downside of auto-matchmaking instead of lobbies and server browsers with selectable intentions (mission only, maximum xp, samples run, all welcome, no-lifers only, etc)
For the Pelican/Evac there’s a trick you can use which is to hover far enough away so that when he arrives he’ll just float around and cover you and when you get close to Evac again he’ll land and you can Evac. Haven’t tried to use him to cover me while I collect samples so if someone has tried this please leave a comment on how it went.
Add me so we can play lvl 61
I do this all the time. The bird'll go into a holding pattern and start providing fire support to an insane distance. Once the timer runs out it'll land with the 20 second grace timer to gtfo.
Edit: also be careful not to get smoked cause sometimes when you drop back in it'll auto land.
got a feeling it would help prevent getting kicked if you let the team know at the start that you’ll be running for samples so they already know you won’t be around if it hits the fan
sometimes, I explain when they ask and it's a 50/50 depending on if I'm facing bugs or bots
Yeah this mission is definitely a Tunneled-Vision Type of mission and targets people with OCDs, The presence of bountiful samples and alleviation of bot drops/bug breaches are intended gameplay in this missions, sadly people are just too closed-minded and will focus on objective i also tried this with 2:2 2 does the mission 2 does the sample collecting on Helldive and man its soo much easier compared to when everyone is clustereffing in the mission the spawns are just too much to handle, thats why its difficult because there's a hidden purpose or mechanic in this kind of missions.
Call evac and keep it hovering so it can defend the evac zone while you guys get all the samples
let's all hold hands on the objective and die mmmmkay???? 😭
if I'm right if you fail this mission you get evact anyway, is it undemocratic to just grab samples wait for the ship and make a break for it, means you can do it solo on helldive?
That's true for every mission, not just this type. Once the clock runs out an extraction is called in automatically, but if you aren't there when the 2-4 minute extract timer runs out you auto-fail.
Yes. And you have been reported to your local Democracy officer
Said democracy officer wasn't authorized to speak anymore as we should be admiral or above.
Good news failing a mission doesn't mean anything. Bad news is you don't help liberate the planet. I always try to see it through but don't kill yourself over it either
This is honestly really smart
Getting kicked by ignorant teammates who don't know how some missions work is exactly why I stopped joining matches. I'm always hosting, some people might leave during the game but you get to keep the samples even if the mission fails as long as you extract so that's fine.
when they called the shuttle with 6 minutes on the clock I was waiting to see if they would do the pro gamer strat of abandoning the sample runner
It would be awesome if you made a settings video! I know a lot of them are personal preference, but I just can’t seem to find a good balance for all of the sensitivity settings
I'm lvl 90 and I found that the longer the mission timer the better staying together is. So shorter mission time = split farm longer is 4 stack.
I mean, it makes sense to pull agro off of the main objective for sure, but there are so many people that just try to bang their head on the wall with sheer brute force and never do anything different unfortunately.
I had no idea about the bot drop aggro. That and the easy samples, I can get the other samples as I play but I don’t have enough experience to say I have enough super samples.
Solid video
Only thing I'd say is that the bots with the chainsaws I think are called Berserkers, could be wrong though
1:45 it is not enough to simply split up, the ones that are outside of the objective need to agro the bots and don't lose it by killing all of them.
As soon as they lose agro the poor dude in the objective will get swarmed.
Regarding the support weapon module upgrade, it is indeed bugged and I also hope that the supply backpack will work with that, just imagine 100 railgun shots (although 60 is good too).
it isn't reliant on aggro, you can be out of combat and a dropship just chooses you.
@@OhDough I do agree with that but it seems more consistent if you take the fight and prolong it, ofc it is easier to do if 3 are off the obj.
Time to grind em out boys
What im doing to farm the green samples that are pretty much the only annoying one to get is just to do eradicate mission, if you are fast usually in less than 5 minutes you get around 13 or so depending on the difficulty. I find it less demanding than running around the map on a 40 minute mission.
I tried this with my buddies, exactly as described 1 person rush to objective, everyone else look for samples. And every single drop went to the guy pushing the buttons. So i am unsure, why that happens, and as I watch you pull it off. I'm in awe. Like you said it's a chance. but there has to be more to it that just that.
I had upgraded it and I can confirmed that it's busted atm, I picked up a random Railgun and picked up an ammo box but it only gave me 5 bullets instead of full cap
Only way to somehow manage that mission with everybody on the point is with at least 2 quasars and eats or two with RR team reloading each other. And these two people need to consistently take out the drop ships. That'll work at least at diff 7 without any negatively impacting stratagem modifiers. But even the slightest fuck up means the end of that mission.
yeah, this is a mission design issue. literally every other mission you don't have any issues with random groups, since the game teaches you it's fine to do everything "holding hands" up to diff. 7, except for this 1 mission type. people are going to behave the same way that 99% of their experience has been rather than do something contrary to that
The hardest part of the the bot front is your team malding because they cant beat missions playing in the absolutely least effective way humanly possible
Did anyone ever try putting down some dome shields and smokes etc, to cover the NPC's paths, to make it faster/easier?
I would 100% take not having to worry about auto cannon anymore as the first new upgrade...
I wish they doubled the amount of common samples and halved the amount of rare. I usually end up finding more rare than common and generally have hundreds of rare left in the bank compared to commons.
this mission also seems to have waay more buddy bunkers
Hey, so maybe this is a good place to ask. I did a TCS mission a couple days ago and completed all of the objectives and collected all samples solo before some level 30+ randoms joined my game. I kept running to extraction, they stayed in the middle to fight bugs, and I got yelled at for not understanding how to play the game. What was the reason that they wanted to stick around and fight bugs instead of extracting?
no idea what they were doing. maybe farming kills for fun?
Nice Doug
I can confirm that the supply pack upgrade does not work, only filled up half of my autocannon backpack with the upgrade, only one mag with the MG-43 too
"upgrades are expensive" in chat 😆 poor guy
I felt that lmao
a lawn sweeper on these god damn maps is the way to go folks
the grind is real
How come the samples are always diamonds and rare metals. By this time shouldn’t we have enough to fill up every laboratory in supereath?
No, wait!!!! Where are you taking me!!?? I have freedom of speech. Please no!!
You have something better than " freedom of speech". You have SUPER SPEECH*
*super speech monitored and administered by the Ministry of Truth.
Theirs no such thing as enough rare metals got to fill up my silo and swim in em
Would it be smart to leave one bot survivor when out scouting? Does it give a bigger chance to attract aggro and bot drops?
I don't know if I can force them to min-max the samples in the game while they're just trying to have fun. I'd rather do this with my friends if I had any.
which primary, secondary, grenades and armor do you use?
If you don't care about mission completion, could you grab all the samples, and then after the mission fails (time runs out, and the shuttle automatically drops), could you just extract with the samples? (In this sense, soloing it)
yes, it's better doing this with people though. 2 on objective 2 getting samples. I was getting max samples and my team was beating the objective last night
How exactly did you get your run of this strategy to go so smoothly? I tried it and it was nearly a disaster. I only managed to get a third of the samples.
I usually try a couple times to get a presentable run. timing of the breaches & what those breaches spawn can make it much more difficult. I'd say it comes down to picking up the samples quickly so you can keep up with the breach timer.
People are just doing the mission. Not everyone is focused on samples or even know they are there. They need a few filters for people to choose the type of game. Such as farming samples or focused on missions or completionism of maps. Pulling them off is a tactic. You don’t have to do that if you coordinate drop equipment for the goal. Smoke, emp turrets, some heavy take downs, maybe a patriot to draw fire and clean chaff. Not everyone want to play a meta of what is easier, many just enjoy doing the mission and as designed.
So many smoothbrains kick me becuase "I'm not helping with the objective and just running around collecting sample" when they don't see I'm fighting just as many bots as they are.
did this mission on helldiver and only made it to 40/50 before we got too overwhelmed by hulks marauders and rocket devastators. everyone was using orbital laser, ems mortar and regular mortar. dam near impossible to fight on the objective.
Helldiver?
That's not something you do a mission on.
Did you mean Helldive?
And not helldiver, like how it is not impossibler or suicider missioner
@g80gzt yeah mobile auto corrected to it I guess
@@g80gzt Okr, Calmr Downr Itsr UA-camr.. Smartassr
I understand what OD means, but it still makes me laugh because both symbols are diamonds. One is a literal diamond and one is a diamond shape.
great strategy, only problem is randoms are TERRIBLE at this mission.
The mission isnt hard but people just dont focus enough on just pressing buttons lol. Very often i have to come back to help before i can get most of the samples
I don't mind if randoms aren't great. What baffles me is them kicking players when the people they kick are helping in so many ways on this specific mission by simply not being on the objective
@@OhDough I got kicked from this mission type because the host kept reinforcing me in the middle of hulk swarms then got mad cuz I was dying instantly, obviously.
These randoms are nuts so I just started hosting, but then the other 3 guys wanna hold hands on top of the objective like you say lol 😂
@@OhDough agreed
"iTs lItEralLy skILl iSsUE"
Probably never happen but i would really love your or another collectors help with samples, im not that good and even challange 4 is hard to evac with samples
Challenge IS tougher than suicidal in many cases now due to the swarm of meat/metal chasing you at speed.
3 pointers.
Shield pack (both of them, but mostly the energy one) can save you bacon even when peaking corners to let you land the shots you NEED to land to flinch the dangerous enemies (that means explosive or AoE weapons like that plasma grenade shotgun, or even grenades with a resupply pack keeping you topped up). Better alive than dead but if you are out of stims use indirect fire and lob ALL of your grenades at the nearest aggrod rocket devastator, hulk or tank pack.
Bring an eagle strike/cluster/500kg for crowd control and anti-heavy (cluster CAN kill tanks:hulks it may just take 1-2 extra hits, rockets I find unreliable, orbital rail gun can only fire once per 210 seconds against heavies spawning 3-6 per minute).
Turrets are mostly terrible in this mission as the tanks/turrets/rockets spam will oneshot them the moment they shoot (ems mortar the only “safe” option) so bring the deathray or walking barrage or even the precision strike instead to maximise your boom potential as you CAN’T out-fight the bots here but you sure can AoE the hell out of the slow ones while you kite them or run away. And run around you should because that means ALL the spawns are now behind you, all the chasing berserkers/flame-hulks are coming from one direction and unless they have a machine gun most bots can’t hit a moving target that well (and there you have your priority targets, ANYTHING with a machine gun, or rocket devastators because Eff those guys in particular)
Why’s you stamina bar so tiny? Is it a smaller UI cause you’re playing on 4K or something?
One of the visual settings allows you to change the maximum width of the stamina bar, without actually affecting your max stamina or the rate that it drains at.
I'm on 1080p, it's just a smaller hud option in yhe settings
don't worry you can farm slowly, no need to rush. enjoy the game.
Is this mission still available? I can't find it today
I don’t understand Arrowhead’s mathematical structure of dividing sample requirements and distributions amongst the mission difficulties.
We essentially have a system where Common (Green) and Rare (Orange) are treated the exact same while the Super Rare’s (Purple) are the only ones that are treated differently.
Commons and Rares can be found in the near-exact same quantity (40 Commons to 35 Rares, for instance), while Super Rares can be found only in spurts of 3-6. Furthermore, the Level 4 stratagem upgrades all require Commons and Rares essentially between 150-200 while the Super Rares are at a meager 15 per upgrade.
I don’t understand why they don’t make a more logical projection of sample distributions/requirements, such as requiring a flat 150 Commons, 100 Rares, and 50 Super Rares for all Level 4 stratagems. This should also go with a re-work of distributions amongst the difficulties, such as at Level 7, you can find 40 Commons, 20 Rares, and 5 Super Rares (yes, I am a fan of multiples of 5 for this and this is purely an example of what I think it should look like without reworking the entire mathematical structure, only Level 7 difficulty here to illustrate).
The way the structure works now is having us reach the conclusion that Super Rares are not the most important samples (given also that they are ALL always in one spot on the map), rather, it is the Commons and (especially) the Rares that are the most valuable given the quantity needed.
It’s just odd to me as this doesn’t seem like what they intended, though it is what they achieved.
Regardless, thanks for the video, OhDough, this is some great advice that I hope a lot of people find helpful. I know I certainly have.
Your presumption that you can see where samples are is mostly right . There are some locations that will not change from diamond to anything because there are no samples there.
I have also seen samples fall into the earth and drift from their starting locations depending on bombing . Giving the visual illusion that all had been collected but in reality its lost to the void.
what armor are you using in this mission? Thanks for the tips!
medic afaik but I recommend scout
yeah i feel like that the mission shouldn't be like that you should be on objective and holding but I think the spawn rates are scuffed there should be more higher tier units not 1000 mid tier units IMO
I cant find a map like this anymore above difficulty 4. Above 4 all the maps are double the size and split up with either large canyons or large bodies of water. Samples are much more spread out now. So not sure if they put a patch in for this in the last 3 days or if I'm getting unlucky for the maps they give me.
I use the infinite operation glitch with a friend to farm samples. Always better than doing this because it’s always the same and you can memorise spawns. Blitz works best.
Note if you leave and rejoin a friend and complete the mission and then leave to your own ship the mission will still be there. Then repeat. You can farm medals this way too.
Play an operation normal till the last one and then do the glitch max medals. 👌
Been doing this with my body for ever 🤷🏻♂️
You're right about the diamonds and how to go about farming but your armor choice I wouldn't use.
scout armor the goat for sample farming
Is OhDough ever going to learn the actual name of the berserkers.. wondering if it's a running gag to call them marauders at this point lol
What Primary
What primary weapon are you using?