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Boat Interferes With Firefighting Planes - Don't Be This Guy!
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- Опубліковано 4 вер 2024
- Here we see some Conair Air Tractor AT802 Fire Boss amphibian wildfire fighting aircraft in action scooping off of the Lower West Arm of Kootenay Lake on the afternoon of July 19th, 2024 fighting the Eagle Creek Wildfire near Blewett, B.C. You can see a boater getting right in the path of the Air Tractor's as they are scooping water off the lake.
It's always impressive to see these firefighting planes in action, but please use common sense and stay off the water when they are in action.
The fire was/is just to the east of my property. Never has the sound of attacking planes and helicopters been more welcome.
I can imagine. They do a dangerous job and probably don't,t get anywhere near the recognition they deserve.
They're definitely a welcome sight, and something we all are very thankful for living in this area. I hope the lack of action around the Eagle Creek fire today means they have it all under control!
@@TheHDAviation hard to tell with all the other smoke in the air, but no sign of smoke there since last night.
Have you considered submitting a link to this video to someone like BC Wildfire Service so maybe they can use the footage as an example of what not to do around firefighting operations?
That sounds like a first class idea.
Those planes should be able to give those boat a blast of water maybe they would get the hint.
No they shouldn't, that would be aggression and could cause undo harm to it's occupants and the boat not making it to shore.
No, they should be talked to by law enforcement. If they do it again then charges should be filed. Most likely it’s just pure ignorance.
I have had similar experiences with boaters when operating off lakes with a large amphibious aircraft. Jet skiers are the worst. After speaking with some of them. Most of them didn’t see or hear us coming. Sometimes you just have to abort the landing. This is an issue with fire fighting aircraft. I was actually surprised they were operating so close together. There were other boats including a sail boat that has right of way.
Boat was probably not expecting a half dozen planes to cover the entire lake at the same time . Usually planes would stagger a little more and follow similar lines vs spreading out all over the place . My comment comes with very limited experience seeing fire fighting float planes in lesser numbers
@@geraldmcclintock2567 Considering they are EMERGENCY VEHICLES, they have the right of way and it is the BOATERS RESPONSIBILITY to adhere to the Rules/Regulations. They know they aren't supposed to do that kind of crap, but they chose to do it anyway; and put Aircrews/Aircraft in danger in the process.
No enforcement, no consequences.
Do we know the whole story ?
Could the people in the boat just be out fishing when the planes show up ?
What are the rules anyway ?
Might seem like common sense but you never know.
@@KLRJUNEmind reading is a true gift. Use it to help others.
Wow, six firefighting planes!
Great video, Jesse. 👏👍👍
The boaters don't really know what they're doing, do they? 😂
Looks like they did... They paddle really fast :D
😅@@pawer3257
Thanks Volker, it was really cool to see these impressive firefighting aircraft in action! I don't know what the people in the boat were thinking though 🤨
Obvious on the lower end of the evolutionary scale..
Candidate for a Darwin Award? I think so.
Here at the north end of Kootenay Lake six of those aircraft were flying low over our village, scooping water from the lake then dumping their loads, one after the other on the out of control fire that is threatening our small mountain village (Argenta). Those guys worked for at least an hour. Then the choppers with buckets were dumping loads of fire retardant. Around 3:00 p.m., yesterday and again today (Saturday) the large four engine aircraft (likely he was loading up with retardant in Cranbrook then flying over here) discharged his large load. Yes, hearing those aircraft, roaring just overhead, was a welcome noise because of the life/property saving work they are doing. I've spent the past two days packing belongings and valuables into my vehicle in case we need to evacuate. Pray for rain.
Often filling up at Castlegar - it is the main Fire Center for Southeast Region. Praying for rain. Stay safe!
I hope all the efforts they are putting in out there is having a positive effect and that the threatened properties are safe.
We could definitely use a lot of rain, this hot stretch has been brutal.
@@TheHDAviation they're calling for a couple hours of light rain this morning... supposed to start at ~10:00 in that region (Kootenay Lake)
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That's why we've got the Gospel about the God's kingdom. Jehovah would put everything in order. The dead will be resurected and we'll meet our loved ones again! :-)
"Boat interferes with firefighting plane"...? How was the boat at fault? Just guys out fishing on the lake.
Unless the lake was specifically closed to boating activities (including fishing), it would be incumbent upon the aircraft to avoid the boats, not the other-way-around.
Thanks for the great video! I've never seen those guys in action on the water. This was a good view.
As for the boater... what an absolute jerk! Putting the pilots and himself & companions in danger. If you want to watch, go sit on the shore. You're not special.
Actually, there at least two boats, one had three occupants and the other had four. In the boat with four, it looked one of them was using their phone to take a picture of the planes. Some people have no common sense! 🇨🇦
Great shot of the air tractors at work! Thanks for sharing Jesse, sad shame the marine idiots are out again on BC waters, impeding on forest fire fight.
Wow! What a stunning and beautiful catch of this rare event! Surely quite a dangerous, nice work filming it! 👍👍🤩
So is there some sort of notification that potential boaters receive that says to stay off the water? I see a LOT of space out there and a single little Jon boat in the middle.
This is what happens, when they only ASK that boaters respect the planes.
Quit worrying about offending people, and close the waters to boat traffic, period.
Beautiful spotting video !! Greetings from Japan 😀
What would you do ?? Sitting in the middle of the lake fishing, and suddenly 5 aircraft descend on you. They watched the 1st aircraft till it was past them, then moved out of the way of the rest.
I think they handled it very well. The pilots would have seen them before the scooping run, and if you look carefully all the aircraft were airborne before the boat anyway. Unjustified ridicule of the boaters.
Not really those of us familiar with float plane operations are used to boaters being idiots . The wisest course of action would be to let the fire bombers have the lake to themselves. Bear in mind the Beaver/boat collision in Vancouver harbour which is recent enough to still be fresh in people's memory.
This was the fifth or sixth scooping run by the aircraft, the boat entered the area after knowing the aircraft were working that area and sat there until the aircraft were flying directly at them. And they weren't fishing, they entered that area to watch the planes, in their direct path.
So I disagree that it was "handled well" and that it is unjustified ridicule.
It's all speculation until someone with first hand knowledge comes along. The boat is the stand on vessel, the plane would be the give way vessel, the collision regulations must be followed on the water. Just because they are scooping that doesn't give them carte blanche to ignore the rules. Fire trucks with emergency lights activated can run red lights, but they MUST ensure the intersection is clear before doing so. Shoot that save video from 90 degrees and you will see it's not even close to being a conflict.
laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/C.R.C.%2C_c._1416/page-1.html
"(3) For the purposes of these Regulations, every reference to “vessel” shall, except in subsection 3(1) and section 4, be read to include a reference to a seaplane when it is on or over the water."
@@TheHDAviation In that case I stand corrected "Idiots in boats".
Don’t be these guys I reckon.. very amazing catch tho!
Grreat video, to see these magnificent planes in action,
One was lost last weekend in Washington I think, crashed into a small resevoir.
Some serious fire to have this many flying, wow !
Saw the video from the owner, on what it takes to learn to fy them. Not your everyday pilot.
Awesome Video
I would not even be out there in a Boat furing this time.
A fire Boss pilot died a week or so ago in the 🇺🇸crashing during loading. Keep the F off the lake.
I saw that, so sad. Such a challenging and dangerous job without people getting in the way.
Look up the international navigation rules. The boat has the right of way.
So your conclusion is that it is a good idea for the boat to go sit exactly in the spot where water bomber aircraft have been scooping for an hour just to get a better view of the action? That's worrying...
@@TheHDAviation No, I just stated the boat has the right of way. If there was a collision, the pilot would be at fault because he has to follow the colregs as soon as he touches the water. I did not state it was good idea to sail into an active water scooping operation.
The regulations for the prevention of collisions at sea (colregs) give a list of precedence of who is the give way vessel and who is the stand on vessel. Every other type of vessel has stand on precedence over a seaplane. And yes, seaplanes are considered vessels subject to the colregs when they touch the water.
Except those seaplanes are not normal, they are Emergency Services working a fire. I'm guessing they have the right of way while fighting a fire, the same as you are supposed to pull over for a fire engine, or police car going to an emergency...
I know they clear civilian air traffic from an area that fire bombers are working, why didn't they clear the lake???
Are these aircraft equipped with sirens, like many of the firefighting helicopters?
Holy moly it looks like in a Hollywood stunt movie! Excellent footage, Jesse!! Huge like from me! 🤩✈️👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Thanks so much Matt, it's always an impressive sight having these skimmer's in action in the area!
The opening scene of the water bomber loading up in the 1989 wildfire movie "Always" makes so much sense re: dissuasion tactics. I see at least one air tractor may have been trying the same. 😀
We see a lot of firefighting aircraft here in Portugal. Not only are those pilots highly skilled, they are heroes to us who live with the threat of forest fires. Last saw them only two days ago, when there were three in action locally. Have seen as many as six.
very good 👍 thumb up as always 👌 👍
🇮🇪 totally magnificent its brilliant video sharing
What's the procedure for warning boaters that are on the lake when the Air Tractors are going to use the lake for fire control?
Seeing some big-ass planes coming right at you?
These planes are hard enough to fly in the best of conditions
This is how the urban legend of a scuba diver found in a burn area gets stated
Wow, that's a nice catch! Great video!
Pilots either neglected to inspect their landing site or considered them to not be a factor. That was too close to be considered safe operation of an aircraft.
They will need to clean that boat.
Wow! Great capture of this eye catching moment. A dangerous but awesome moment, awesome work 👏🏻
Im wondering why there wasn't some enforcement on the lake to close it to boat traffic?
Please tell me they were arrested.
Splendid video as always mate!!
I'd fill the boat my next run.
Amazing footage Jesse👌 I hope the forest fires are under control🙈 The people in the boat were very careless🫣 Thumbs up my friend👍😉
Planes interfere with fisherman's fair take of dinner.
Silly people risking their lives for an instagram reels 🤣
Wow, hoppefully no incident. I hope this fire was stopped.
Impressive video
This is fire here
Crazy people in the world, great catch Jesse 👍😎
they need drone helicopters or planes, a whole fleet to where they deploy on their own and can have daisy chains going
Did anyone contact law enforcement?
Boats have the right a way on the lake. Call law enforcement on you want as all they can do is tell the border to move.
Well that would explain where 4 of these from my area darted out a few days ago for.
I would imagine that people had been advised not to be on the lake during this. Enforcement should have dealt with it.
Impressionnant tous ces passages 👍🙂
Thanks so much for watching Christian!
assuming the Eagle Creek fire didn't start that morning, are there ? not enough COS to be at that lake (plus where ever else needed) to patrol and inform boaters ? Kootenay Lake will have firefighting aircraft constantly in and out. like a NOTAM for boaters.
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oh dear... suffering mechanical issues on take off! must JETTISON LOAD! JETTISON LOAD!!!!
oh... mechanical issue all resolved... my bad! flipped the wrong switch... better turn back and fill up again huh?
I hate it when I accidentally switch a mag off on my PT6😅
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I’ve been on a lake when a plane lands behind me, I heard it before I saw it. The planes see the boat long before the boats see them. That was a lot of planes to avoid all at once. They just about took over the whole lake. There should have been notice to stay off the water, was there?
They planes had been operating in this exact location for an hour before the boat moved into the area. The boaters moved into this spot to get a closer view of the action.
saw lots of paddle board's going to slocan lake cant be leave they are having a festival on the beach /watch the fires oh well next 48hours will get interesting
Bunch of idiots
it may look like the boat is in the way but there not the prospective of the camera makes it look like they are in the way
Floaters in the shallow end of the gene pool.
They look to be volunteering for a drop accuracy check
like sound of the crop dusters
What an awesome sight. I've never seen a squadron load up with water all at the same time. Those pilots are incredible. Almost looks like old news reel of planes taking off for the Battle of Britain. Both boaters, power boat and the sail boat should be fined up their a$$es, but I'm guessing law enforcement might be a little busy with traffic control and evacuations maybe?
Looks like Detroit Lake
Dump a load of water on them!!!!!
متى استمتعت بهذا الفيديو الرائع في مطار الطيران اتمنى لك التوفيق والنجاح أنا صديقه جديده في انتظارك احلى لايك
This is so cool 🙌
Beautiful video ❤
Your stupid fire fight is not that guys problem, he has every right to be out enjoying the lake or river..
The boater should be jailed for LIFE.
Maybe im missing something but how was the boater supposed to know that aircraft were going to use that stretch of lake? Should boaters just throw their boats away because maybe a firefighting pontoon plane might happen to want to use the same stretch of water you happen to be on?
No, it's because the boater entered to get a close-up view in the direct path of the aircraft even though they had already been skimming in that area for about an hour beforehand.
@TheHDAviation ya mean when he was sitting still and the planes came at him? Watch the video he wasn't underway until the planes came his direction.
Just when you think you've seen it all.
Proof you just can't fix stupid.
Where is an RCMP Marine Unit?
Lens compression makes it seem that they are closer than they really are. Much ado about nothing.
why be on the water at all during trying times of forest fires????????????????? Peoples lives, homes, animals, etc etc are at stake here! It's really quite simple >> STAY OFF THE Fk'n WATER!! PERIOD!
Well then, can you please explain why he suddenly guns it? I’m sure it might have something to do with cleaning his shorts!
Whatever you’re doing it isn’t enough. I’m across the border and really sick of your smoke from out of control fires, for years?! Get it together.
I'll get on it right away 🫡
Looked more like the boat moved out of the way of that one oncoming plane, however with fire fighting operations and that many planes using that space for their loading the boat should have moved to a different end of the lake.
The planes had already been operating in this exact spot for an hour before the boat moved into the area to get a close-up view of the action.
Bet it's a texan
Fishing must have been 🔥🔥🔥🔥
You know you just can’t fix stupid 😮
they should be charched and fined, as well as their boat confiscated!!!😡😡😡👎👎👎
waw
Is that a private lake? Is that a no boats designated area? Cool watching these aeroplanes but it would seem they were taking over the lake.
Thanks for watching!
The boat has the right of way not the planes
Yup. And I have the right to drive slow in front of the fire engines coming to try saving your home…
Wrong.
Oh c',mon, he pays taxes... he should be able to do whatever he wants to get photos of the planes he's funding!
(now let's see who doesn't understand sarcasm....)
Got the sarcasm. Though it seems, the "I pay your wages attitude" is becoming quite prevalent as of late. Maybe park the planes, my life isn't worth your house or your barn.
🛩️.....🚀.....🛥️🛥️🛥️ !!!!
Boats have the right of way. It is the aircraft pilots responsibility to give way.
Not in this situation they don't.
Really?? You can see the boater move to get OUT of the way. Click bait!
The boat moved into the area the aircraft had been scooping in for an hour before. The geniuses only decided to get OUT of the way after they thought they were going to get hit.
So there's somebody fishing when the Coulson Tractors scoop up. Jail them for life!! Confiscate their boats!! How about some context and a different view? Looks to me like the boat gave it a kick to get out their way. Calm down.
The planes had beed operating in this exact spot for an hour before the boat decided to set up there to get a close view of the action (you can see one of the passengers filming if you look really closely). Then they decide to "give it a kick get out of their way" when they realize they might get wiped out.
it's not Coulson Tractors... it's Conair. Boat went out to take pictures. Inexcusable!
Nothing illegal was performed. Planes have to yield to boats. If the lake was not closed to boaters then no laws were broken.
was the boat there first and the planes just appeared?
The planes had been skimming in this spot for 5 or 6 passes already when the boat came and sat there to get a close-up view of the action.
"Just appeared" The fuck do you think this is a video game and it just spawned out of nowhere?
Actually, the boat has the right a way as the boat was not really in the way as the planes gave way to the boat like they're supposed to do. Here's a little secret for the ignorant folks, boats normally have the right away over a plane. Even if it is a dedicated landing area for a plane the boat still has the right a way to a certain degree.
No, they can be issued a fine for interfering with fire control under the BC Wildfire Act. This isn't normal circumstances.
@@Tessa-mn3fg That's if the area was restricted to boaters. The planes still had to yield to the boater. Honestly, I didn't see any interference whatsoever from the boater as the planes yielded to the boater and still continued with their jobs.
Hey, their desire to fight a fire doesn't override someone wanting to spend a few hours on the lake.
Video gives the impression that boat and plane were much closer. It’s deceptive. Much ado about nothing.
because boats should be on bodies of water during forest fire fighting???? Brain up!
@@DonCamente Like I said, wasn’t even close. Calm down Karen
@@DonCamente Boats are generally found on bodies of water, yes.
@@megamilyon6111 It doesn't matter. There were 7 tractors flying there that day, doing 10 passes each. Hey why not have another boat out there... and another & another. How f'n ridiculous can you be????
If caught the operator would be charged with many federal crimes
Click bait. The planes rolled in on the boat, then they replayed the footage 3 times to make it look like it happened 3 times.
First time they were zoomed in closer (0:06), second time less zoom (1:26), 3rd time they slowed the footage down(3:08). Did the boat even knew they were coming in to refill?
It's obviously the same footage repeated three times. As you said, the first time is zoomed in for a better view. The second time is zoomed out to show a full view, and the third time is in slow motion.
This was the fifth or sixth pass by the aircraft, and the boat entered the area between the water scooping runs.
@@TheHDAviation It's on the pilot to ensure the area is clear, obviously no conflict or they wouldn't have scooped, it's a big lake and the camera distances are deceptive. I don't know what the VSR1 is in that configuration (80 ~ 85 KTAS?), but it is much faster then boats top speed. Best course of action is for the boat to remain stationary and allow the pilots to scoop and depart.
@@SwL_Wildcat Best course of action would be for the boat not to go sit directly in the area where planes have been scooping for the past hour.
@@SwL_Wildcat It's on the pilot? So when forests are burning up and people's houses and lives are at risk, pilots need to wait until all recreational gawkers have chosen to leave the vicinity. Do you not think the pilot is trained to execute as safely as possible? Best course of action is to stay off the fk'n lake!! It's not like people can't see wtf is going on.
Here's a little lesson when it comes to the right a way on water, a boat always has the right a way in most cases. By the video it looked like the plane stayed away from the boater like they were supposed to do.
What did the boat do wrong? He was there first, then it looks like tried to get out of their way. What did you see?
The boat wasn't there first, the planes has already been skimming in this exact area for an hour or so when the boat pulled up, stopped directly in the path they were scooping, and decided to sit there to get a close-up view of the aircraft. That's what I saw.
People are ignorant as the boat didn't do anything wrong as planes always have to give way to a boat. If the lake was not closed to boating nothing illegal was going on. In reality as long as the boat stays in one spot It's really not an issue.
@@jamesm568 Sorry to say you are obviously not well versed with the Canadian Aviation Regulations. Under Canadian law that boat is not permitted to be in a fire operations area like that. Ignorance is no excuse.
If you see a fire fighter running down the sidewalk directly at you dragging a fire hose don't you move out of the way ? Fire truck with flashing lights don't you pull over to the shoulder ? That pilot is busy, he or she does not need some twat in a boat getting in the way.
@@joerogi8401 You better go back and reread that law again as you just made yourself look like an absolute idiot. Everything you said was completely false so let's try this again. It's obvious you don't have the slightest clue what you're talking about. LMFAO! What a POS!
@@joerogi8401 Oh by the way in Canada you are not required to yield the way of a firefighter. More facts. I can actually trip a firefighter and nothing can be done.
Replay it continuously so it looks worse than it is. I'm guessing the man was fishing when they started making the runs. Thus, he did not interfere . Fake title.
He was fishing that spot LOOONG before the guys in planes started fishing 🤷♂️
No they weren't, they entered that area after the planes had been scooping multiple times in that exact spot just to view the planes...
Looks like he was already established. I don't think he was interfering, I think he was fishing on a lake/river that was in the middle of air drop operations. With all the commotion, I don't know how much he'll be catching, but I also think those planes could land further back. I'm not a firefighter pilot, just my thoughts as a spectator.
What a ridiculous comment. OF COURSE, firefighting is more important than recreational fishing. Dude should get off the lake, or at least stick close to the shore.
@@leewhite9480 He's not even fishing, they're taking pictures. And he's the only one on the water.
No, this was the fifth or sixth pass by the scoopers and the boat entered the area in between their pick-ups and was directly in the way. And they weren’t fishing, they came out just to see the aircraft (and by doing so directly in the path of the aircraft, interfering with them).
No this guys is deffinitly a looky lou . Theve told people to stay off the kootenay river and theyve been collecting water for the last 2 days straight. Def an AH.
People like you are what's wrong with the world.
The boat was just sitting there and that makes them the problem not the planes? Good grief. Do the planes own the lake?
You may feel differently after your house burns down. And yes they do when contracted by a government firefighting agency.
Not unless an agency in charge CLOSED the lake to boating activities and/or fishing.
That’s a pretty big lake, I didn’t see the boat go get in front of the planes, I saw planes drop down out of the sky and head directly towards the boat? What is the boat expected to do? I would have stayed put as well. A boat is supposed to be on the lake, was there an announcement to not be in the lake, was there warning that the planes were doing that? Those planes coulda gone anywhere on that lake, the boat was where it was…
The boat entered that area and sat there after the planes had already been scooping there for about an hour. They went there just to get a better view (if you look closely, you can see some of the boat passengers filming).
You're right, it's a big lake. Why would you take your boat and go exactly to the area water bombers are working to fight an active wildfire? Not very smart.
@@TheHDAviation I see no evidence of that in the video….
@@TheHDAviationand you posted it..
@@TheHDAviationyou have the video, it obviously started before the beginning of this clip, post your evidence, you got everybody decrying the boat, but you have no evidence posted of your claim. Why didn’t your local condtable or law enforcement go out there and tell him to move? Was he contacted at the dock? This is incomplete at best….i woulda put down my fishing pole and filmed too…
They were probably fishing when the planes came in,what else can you do just stay, trying to get out of the way may cause accidents with plane incoming
The entered that area after the planes had already scooped there 5 or 6 times and sat there to get a close view of the action. They were not there fishing before.
You mean planes interfere with and endanger boat.
And scarring the fish away😅
They definitely should have stopped all firefighting activity in the area, so these boaters could enjoy their day.
I guess the boat was there first!
wrong.
Not the point.