Cruise Control and Tubeless Wheels for the Honda Transalp 750 (EP.8)
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- Опубліковано 2 чер 2024
- Two complaints about the new 2024 Honda Transalp 750 - no cruise control, and no tubeless wheels. Today I show aftermarket items that fix both these issues. We add the Veridian Cruise Control and Outex tubeless wheel conversion kit. Install these items at your own risk and know they could void warranties or be against local laws.
➕TRANSALP BUILD➕
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⚡Veridian Cruise Control: veridiancruise.com/products/p...
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⚡Outex Tubeless Kit: tinyurl.com/yxynr9s8
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⚡Outback Motortek Crash Bars and Skid Plate: tinyurl.com/5fjmb7h2
⚡Altrider Footpegs (coming soon for the Transalp): altrider.com
⚡Antigravity Battery (ATZ-10): tinyurl.com/yk2vh95k
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00:00 Intro
03:03 Cruise Install
09:39 Cruise Test
14:59 Tubeless Install
27:27 Tubeless Test
30:17 Conclusions - Авто та транспорт
➕TRANSALP BUILD➕
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⚡Veridian Cruise Control: veridiancruise.com/products/pre-order-honda-xl750-23-transalp
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Can we use the code for other bikes as well besides the Transalp?
The level of transparancy of this channel is outstanding. Kudos Ian!
I did tubeless wheel conversion on my BMW R9T 3 years ago. I did not use a tubeless kit, I made up my own.
I used 3M Marine sealant 4200 to seal the spoke nipples on the inside with my caulking gun, and black Gorilla tape all around after the Marine sealant cured.
No issues at all after all this time.
I looked at the commercial tubeless kits in the market and I thought that the little round adhesive stickers for the spoke nipples were a cruel joke.
I am very happy with my tubeless conversion, and it cost a lot less.
That was my thought, I wonder why the kit doesn’t use a liquid sealant that doesn’t depend solely on tape.
@@houseofroos 3M Marine sealant is awesome. After sealing the nipples carefully with it, I seriously thought it would hold just like that. The tape (also great) added even more safety against leaks. Perfect seal.
I had success with the rear tyre, but no luck with the front. So I installed tubes again.
Great video as always, Ian. I think Honda pulled out the footgun in a big way with the Transalp. They already outsell the AT by quite a hefty margin here in Switzerland for the simple reason that it's cheaper, and big heavy bikes are going out of fashion with increasing restrictions on speed limits and emissions. A factory Transalp with Tubeless tires, cruise control, heated grip and adjustable suspension would sell like absolute hotcakes, but would in all likelihood also kill off about 80% of AT sales. So we're stuck with expensive big heavy bikes if we want nice things for the time being.
Cruise would be so easy for Honda to include that's it's hard to excuse its omission. Tubeless option would also help a lot for people like me who don't really want to be stuck taking wheels and tires off on some dark trail in the middle of nowhere.
Totally agree, and I wouldn't be surprised if Honda add CC next year. Ducati did the same on the Multi 950's
I dont mind the idea of tubeless wheels if they are factory. I don't trust the conversion kits. Even still, if I were doing a trip that was mostly off road like a BDR I would still bring tubes with just in case of denting a rim on a rock or something. tubeless cant seal bead on a bent rim but a tube will still hold air and at least let you limp to civilization.
Honda does some odd stuff on the electronic front. I'm still surprised by how many of their (US) bikes don't have ABS post 2020. But they could really step ahead by putting cruise on the NC750, CB500x, Transalp, etc.
They don't include it because then nobody would buy the Africa Twin
They could have put is on as a software option and many riders would pay extra for it.
Well done Ian you’re becoming an ambassador for motorcycling for sure. The cruise control for me is a winner I’m sure many Transalp owners will be well pleased. Relatively straightforward fit, very reasonable price and looks like factory fit. Honda you should be ashamed of yourselves at point of manufacture this would cost you $10 max, you need to move with the times.
one of the benefits of owning a Honda is peace of mind for maintenance issues. I would leave the tube in....
Why put the cruise control switches on the right side of the bars? Would it not be easier to set speed and / or take over throttle control with the switches on the left?
Yes it would, unless your thumbs are 6" long.
The left side control module is a lot bigger so you'd have to take your hand off the bar completely. So I think it was the choice of one hand on the bar, or a weird finagling with your right hand on the throttle, but both hands on the bars.
@@MrFowl why would anyone care about taking a hand off the bars? Lol. The whole point of cruise control is to be able to rest your throttle hand/arm Over extended periods of riding. This would mean taking a hand off the bars as well. Nothing unsafe about that.
@@michiganmoto7687 I think it's a liability thing
The left side is the right side for a cruise controller 😊 As i can see on the veridian homepage is the cruise control switch Screwed to the handlebar ring. If so, you can build from a little peace of aluminium any switch holder you like, maybe in exchange to the front mirror clamp to put the Switches on the left Within reach of the left hands thumb.
That cruise is pretty slick.
I have no intention of trying that. One thing you might try is this.......once you get to the point of installing the tape and prior to installing the tubeless valve, assemble the tire with a tube. Leave the tube in there for a day or two at max pressure. That may seat that tape better. Worked with my Fatty bicycle conversion. once that is done remove the tube and install the tubeless valve. Worth a try.
Double sided Gorilla tape works better than any kit products I’ve ever used on my mountain bikes.
same here but I still let my tube seat the tape for a day or two, presses it flat as it can be. No amount of finger pressing can match that technique. I would say the tubeless conversion is an art. @@airadaimagery692
Pressure is pressure, no need to add the tube. Just air up the tire to max pressure (up to 60 psi bead seating pressure), leave it overnight, and that is plenty of force to flatten out any air bubbles.
You missed the whole point of the suggestion. If it is already leaking then the air will not do squat. The tube has chance to fix that leak by pressing the tape and eliminating the leak. @@toddsorel-pg4hr
Your statement at the beginning of the video showed integrity, honesty. Full disclosure is very important to be trusted.
After you discovered that rear tire air leak, I think I heard your frustration north of the 49th parallel. 😂 Some things can be so frustrating. However, if you use this kit again, you’ll know what to watch for, and maybe improve upon the standard install. I did see one system that uses a self-sealing, tar-like paste prior to the sealant tape. I don’t know if it’s a better system.
Entry level cars can get cruise. Hopefully, motorcycle manufacturers will get with the program. Which will come first - backlit controls or standard OEM cruise? Place your bets. 😂
Great series, Ian. I look forward to your chopper build. 😂😂😂
3M Extreme Sealing Tape 4412N. The good stuff.
man you aren't helping my situation. As crazy as it may sound. I can sell my 2023 KTM 1290 SA-R, get the TA, and still have $$ left for suspension and the Cruise Control. Geeeez
Oh, and thanks for all the great info/ build series on the TA
Thanks Ian @BigRockMoto for this series on the Transalp. I am really enjoying it. I did the Outex conversion on my Africa Twin, so I have a couple of comments/tips.
1. It makes a big difference if you have some resistance on the spinning wheel when you apply the tape, especially on the narrow front rim. I had an assistant hold the wheel while I stretched the tape a little, and that helped it drop down into the well better as well as go on more straight.
2. Taking your time and working out as many of the air bubbles as you can as you go, perhaps with some rounded implement, is really important.
3. Remember, the bubbles can be pushed towards the spokes as well as towards the outside edge of the tape to remove them.
4. I noticed the next time I changed tyres that the pressure had removed almost all the remaining bubbles I had been concerned about, so having a few remaining bubbles is not really much to worry about.
5. After I had converted my AT rims, I noticed LESS air loss than when I had been running tubes.
5. I think your comments about the performance and handling improvements hit the nail on the head. When I converted my AT, I really noticed a big difference, but not too many people talk about that, so that was cool!
Hopefully this information will help others who are considering doing this conversion. I will be converting my Transalp as soon as it needs new tyres.
I really enjoy your content and your honest opinions. You are a true stand-up guy.
If you remove the schrader valve from the stem the air flow will increase and seat the tire quicker. then you can install the valve int he stem and put the pressure you want for riding. The other part of the system is the greater the heat on the rim tape, (to a point) the better the seal of the rim tape. Great video and I have "Tubliss" on one of my dualsport two stroke bikes and other than getting balance right on the rims it is awesome!
Top tip there, thanks, me not know about the valve trick
I did not know of either of those products. Thanks so much for sharing with us!!
Rediscovering biking. Binge watching your videos. Thanks!
Great video. I wanted to suggest, if possible, to separate the discomfort implemented in your scoring to fixable issues (wind protection, seat comfort etc) and non fixable (engine vibration, heat, top heaviness etc) so we get two comfort scores for each bike. Thanks again for all your hard work🎉
Thanks Ian. I'll be picking up my Transalp next weekend!
Dave at Best Rest Products also has a tubeless conversion video from a couple years ago that may be worth watching. Thanks for being honest about your frustration with trying new things. I am not alone!
@5:47minutes in the little rubber thing I'd say is a "Grommet".
Great video and loving the cruise control that Honda failed to put on. My ony comment is the band on the cruise switch could be narrower with the buttons offset . This would reduce the brake lever being moved so far. Thanks Ian that a job well done.
I know many folks who have been successful with this conversion but not sure if I would ever be confident. Not overly bothered by tube tires but would probably just buy tubeless rims instead. I always carry a tube regardless of rim type as a bent rim would also require a tube to repair.
My Veridian Cruise arrived about a week ago and I finally got my Barkbusters and figured I'd install the heated grips as well all at the same time. I should have watched this again first so I didn't do the entire heated grip/Barkbuster install without installing the Veridian control. They really should make the controller with a hinge so that you don't have to entirely remove the throttle assembly. I also couldn't find the plugs to connect to but should be able to now, thanks again Ian, I should have it all done tomorrow(Saturday), hopefully enough snow melts(again, thanks canada) to be able to take it for a test ride
Sold me on the cruise control, ordered straight away. Thanks loads!
Interesting problems with the tubeless kit. I’ve wondered if it was worth trying something like that. I’ll have to think on it a little more. Really enjoy all of your content. I just realized today that you remind me of Kip from Napoleon Dynamite.
What a great video on the Cruise control and tubeless wheels. I would have to have somebody install it but it would still be less expensive than a Honda Cruise, looks like it went really well. Not sure i would get the tubeless tire kit, but thank you for the honest opinions (frustration), great job, thank you Ian.
Great video, once again Ian
I have a Pan America (tubeless) and a 300KLX (tubes)
I carry a plug kit, but no tubes. Not pulling a wheel and tire off in the forest.
I’m looking forward to seeing your Kawi upgrades.
BTW, I bought my ‘23 KLX, based on your review and comparison with the Honda. I’m lovin’ it 😎
I have been a subscriber for a while now and just saved 40 bucks on Transalp cruise control, how cool is that. I also bought tusk bags after your review. I live 100 miles north of Duluth Minnesota and we have no snow so bikes have been out for all except 2 weeks around Christmas, I usually have 5ft snow banks along my driveway. Tuktoyaktuk this summer
Your comment about sharp edges on the rim probably do not refer to the ridges but probably refer to gouges from tire spoons or rock dings. I think the kit is also for used wheels. On dirt bikes you sometimes need to run low pressures requiring rim locks.
Nice work 🤙🏼 the bike looks great
Ian, excellent video! Give the same Transalp treatment to other competitive bikes like the Suzuki 800DE! This was an awesome series! The best for me as a newbie is to learn what is possible with aftermarket parts! Thank you!!
Great video ! Love the Transalp ❤
My solution to tubed tires is to keep practicing dismounting and mounting tires to get quicker at the process. With knobby tires you'll probably end up putting a tube in it anyway after a puncture.
100% 👍
The odds you'll get a sidewall tear out are virtually zero for 99% of the people out there, even people who ride trails hard. The odds you'll have a standard puncture *that would puncture your tube also* is 100% if you ride any decent amount at all. Tubes are a cost saving measure and a way to force you into the more expensive bike. That's it.
I'm packing for a trip right now. Because I have tubes... I have to bring extra tubes, bead breakers/spoons, dismounting tools, etc. Complete nonsense compared to a just needing a reamer, sticky spaghetti, a lighter, and a CO2 cartridge. All of which would weigh maybe 1lb.
Great information.
Looking forward to the comparison video, specifically the Trans Alp vs the 800DE.
I really hope you do the Ibex 450! Amazing Content as always Ian. No 1 Motorcycle Channel hands down
thank you
@@BigRockMotojust an FYI Ian, gorilla tape works great for tubeless tape. Just cut it to width, and use a tubeless stem. It's that simple. Try it locally and see how you like it.
Cruise control has been pre-ordered, using your link/promo code. Great work as always good sir.
Thanks for doing a video of the tubeless setup. I’m looking for something similar.
My Grandfather showed me this trick on a tractor; wrap a rope around the tire along it's tread. Use a stick to tighten the rope like a tourniquet, then pump it up. Back in his day they only had hand pumps; he would also use tar or something to help seal it. I have done this to my tires using a ratchet strap. I find it works better if you have a bead lube like a little oil or even hand sanitizer or liquid soap. It squeezes the side walls to the rim enough to build pressure enough to seat the tire to the rim.
3M makes a narrow version of that tape that can be run over the two edges of the central tape
to prevent air getting under those edges. The air pressure in the tire then presses down on all 3
tapes to aid the tapes' adhesive.
Transalp is really nice.
Very nice and helpful video again.
I like the cruise control and that it is relatively easy to install.
A tubeless tire can be moved off the bead of the rim for a very short time when encountering obstacles like rocks and wood which will cause the tire to lose air or even go flat. Then you have to inflate the tire again and hope no dirt or mud is on the rim bead area. This is another reason offroad bikes use a tube. Plus many use greatly reduced air pressure offroad like maybe 13 psi which means a tubed tire could be pushed away from the rim easily for a second or more causing air leakage.
I converted my AT to tubelesss just using the 3M tape, been on about 5 years never had a problem. Off road I still carried a spare tube in case of rim damage, but the advantages of easy repairs and the elimination of potential for catastrophic blowouts are still there.
Having said all that I still prefer changing tube tyres than tubelesss!
Hi Ian, thanks for showing this. I´d probably going for tubeless rims after all. Yes, certainly way more expensive but gives me a safer/better feeling once far off in the sticks.
Just finished up my installation. The instructions were somewhat helpful as far as removing the plastic panels was concerned, but they dropped the ball on the electrical part of it - namely explaining exactly where the different factory connectors were. The blue one took me forever to find given it was cloaked in a black rubber boot that was electrical taped in place and then clipped in place behind the intake duct panel so all you could see of it was the back side of the gray retention clip).
The other place that lacked any instruction at all was in regard to the loosening the throttle housing to slide it off the bar so you could install the soft-touch switch. Sure would have been nice to know I only had to loosen the one screw inside after removing the rear cover rather than removing all five and then spending the next hour trying to get the innards and wires all tucked back into the front half of the housing. What a pain in the dingus that was! I eventually got it all sorted out after a beer or three and a few choice curse words, but that's part for the course when doing any work on a bike. 😆
Nice job on that video....excellent as usual!!!
Thanks mate, I googled it and I found them. Nice looking rims but costly as I have to change the tires as well. Maybe I'll do it when time will come to change tires.
When it comes to mounting tubeless tires, and not having a compressor that delivers enough air pressure to seat the bead, you can often times use the ratchet strap trick instead. I’ve personally had a lot of luck using a ratchet strap around the tire. Additionally, I stopped buying tubeless kits for my mountain bikes, and started using double sided Gorilla tape instead, it comes in various widths, and no more problems.
Good tip!
Ok, maybe Im an idiot, but why double sided tape instead of regular Gorilla tape? Maybe because the overlapping ends stick to each other better? This really intrigues me because I would absolutely convert the wheels on my KTM 690 Enduro. Tubes are a pain.
@@papaduck2443 yes it’s so the sticky side sticks to the sticky side. Single sided tape tends to slide over itself when it experiences temperature changes. It’s literally designed not to stick to itself so you can unwrap it.
@@michiganmoto7687
Thats what I thought. Thank you for your response. I appreciate it!
From years of running tubeless mtb tires, adding 2-4 oz of sealant seems like a no brainer!
Good day Ian. I live in South Africa. I bought a 1000 cc Africa Twin brand new in 2016 and did the tubeless conversion some years ago with great success. I have done many serious long off-road trails without any issues. I used 3M Marine sealant 4200 and 3M tape. I have been following all your episodes very closely and sill wonder if the new Transalp is a better option than the Africa Twin. Thank you for all your honest opinions, guidance, and excellent tests.
I put a “home” version of the tubeless system using ultra snazzy 3m tape and Sikens sealant. It worked flawlessly on my Africa Twin for 50,000 miles and a bunch of tire changes. It failed after riding 3 long days at 100 plus degrees, I have no idea if it was temperature but was probably lifespan. Everything I read said to not do this on front tire due to rim geometry. I’ve now got an Transalp and will do it again, and again rear only. I installed an Mccruise cruise control on the AT and it was perfect, instal was a beast. I ordered the Verizon 2 days ago as instal looks more straight forward. Of course I missed out on your discount code.
1. loved cruise control system! i think maby i'm gona buy it in the summer. Here in Greece we don't need it so much, because we have a lot of curve roads (i love it, i'm not a rider that llikes unended strait roads)
2. About the tyres now.
Profecioanls tyres shops DO NOT recomended us to do something like this with "convertion" to tubeless tyres..it's gona leak air very soon and is not safe to ride ..I asked friends with tyres shops for motorcycles and all told me NOT TO DO IT ! only way is tubeless rims and nothing else, unfortunately...
thanks for your effort and all these you are doing for us! kind regards from Greece.
I am not a huge fan of cruise control but for this price it's actually tempting even if just for resale.(not that I plan on selling). I also like that Veridian is in the same city I live in. Thanks again for the great video and the incredible amount of information and work you've put into the build of this. I do wish you would have done the heated grips but they do look pretty straight forward.
As always, fantastic content, Ian. You have been my go-to regarding my new TA. I did the tubeless conversion on the rear of my '19 Africa Twin AS.. It worked fine...until I rode two days in 100+ degree heat through Kansas and Missouri. I woke up on a Sunday morning with a flat tire, leaking through one of the spokes. Ever try to find a MC tire repair shop on a Sunday...or Monday? 🤬🤬🤬I ended up JB Welding the spoke to finish my ride, then promptly cleaned out all of the sealer kit and put a tube back in it. I plan on going with tubeless rims on the ATAS. On my Trans Alp, I'll stay tubed for a while.
I really enjoy your videos. Thanks a lot for all your information and good content about these two parts. Do these companies also send to Austria /Europe? Looking forward to your next videos about the Transalp. All the best from Austria.
Good vid. Very fair evaluation
Sigh.....looks like I will be adding a modernised tube patch kit to my bikes tool kit .
Thanks for your honesty.
The cruze is a definite win though !!!
3M marine sealant 5200 is what the Tenere crowd uses as well as myself. Apply it to each spoke nipple, let it dry and apply the tape over it. Make sure to work all the bubbles out and massage the tape around the spoke nipples for proper sealing. Not that bad especially when you do it a couple times getting practiced up. I liked it so well I bought a set of Excel tubeless rims with heavy duty spokes and Hahn machined hubs in my color choice through OFF-THE-ROAD in Germany. Since I didn't have to pay VAT or state sales tax that more than covered the shipping through DHL which was only a few days. Less than a week with every move tracked. So all good. I think the price was about $2000 for the set set up and ready to mount tires. Pricey, yes. But the factory should supply tubeless wheels from day one. The other next level makers do. Why use them? You don't see MOTO GP or F1 patching tubes on roundy rounders. I carry inner boot material with me to fix a cut. Anything can happen not only on the trail but on the highway as well. If you cut a tube tire you'll have to patch it from the inside or the tube will bulge out and burst. So pretty much even repair. What I don't like in converting the tube wheel is there is no safety bead to secure a flat tire to the wheel. In CHP motocop flat tire events that is one of the tests they have to pass. That flat tire has to stay on the wheel for several miles at 50mph. Sitting beside the road with a flat tire has a history of death in a very high risk situation for the CHP rider. I'm a safety inspector and a fed accident investigator. I know better that to be a statistic.
Great vid. Thanks very much.
I think you should have used tyre paste to seal the tyre against the rim.
Perhaps they should do a cruise control system for the new Suzuki vstrom 800 de
i'd buy a vstrom for sure then
I believe the same company has one in the works for the vstrom 800
MCCruise has cruise control for the 800.
theres one made by mccruise control ive install one and it work great
Mccruise in Australia have a fully featured ride by wire cruise for the 800 DE.
Hey Ian there is a company called MC Cruise out of Australia that make cruise control units for a lot of bikes. I'd love it if you would do a review of their products as well. Thanks for all your hard work!!!
On the tubeless rim tape it might be an idea to install the tape then install the tire with a tube, a light weight tube especially, fill it to maximum tire pressure and leave it installed for a day, or at least overnight, off of the bike in a warm place. The tube would probably really help to press all those bubbles out without direct air pressure trying to work it's way under the tape. Then remove the tube and mount it on the bike. It's an extra step but using a bladder and air pressure is one of the ways they get the bubbles out of composite structures while they cure.
After taping hundreds of bicycle rims for tubeless tires, and even converting non-tubeless rims to tubeless, I've discovered a couple tricks. First, heat the rim with a heat gun until it's pretty warm. Next, if the tape is not the stretchy type, microwave it for 20-30 seconds. Stretch the tape as you install it and there will be almost no air bubbles. Two wraps around the rim is better than one. It is true that tire tools gouge the tape pretty easily. wouldn't hurt to cover the tubeless tape with some other kind of tape. I like the old school strapping tape - tape with the strands running through it - as it's very tough. wouldn't hurt to put in some bicycle Orange Seal if you have premature leakdown problems. Moto rims just take a little more care to tape...
I've done a few tubeless sets and have some tips. I make my own kit with the same 3m gel tape. I don't bother using the spoke tabs, I put down two layers of the 3m tape and a few layers of gorilla packaging tape on top so it's stronger if it gets picked by a tire spoon. Then fill the tire to max pressure overnight to push any air bubbles out.
I was going to say something along these lines. I would have maybe just sealed the spokes with some type of gel glue before putting the gel tape on the rim, and then putting some gorilla tape on for added strength.
That’s what I’ve always used on my mountain bikes as well. But I found that double sided Gorilla tape is even stronger than 3M.
@@disekjoumoer the tape seals the spokes really well especially without the little taps of tape. The problem I found was it creates a thin spot in the 3m tape that could be popped open by a tire spoon or even the tire itself when mounting. So double everything on the tapes works the best for me.
I was also going to suggest using pressure to remove air bubbles. I did the Outex conversion on my Africa Twin, and I noticed the pressure had removed almost all the bubbles the next time I changed tyres, so it works well.
Thanks for the great vid. The c control seems a no brainer. Fabulous. The tubeless conversion, looking at the tape application, makes me queasy. I suppose the good thing is, if it fails, it won't be catastrophic, but gradual and annoying. I would certainly pass, however. Safe riding. Off road in England is called Scotland. You are very fortunate with your geography there.
Very handy mod and looks like it works much vetter thab my Atlas Lock. Next time you talk to Veridian tell them we want one for the Vstrom 800!
I've had good luck using mtb tire sealant on a tubeless scooter tire. The scooter's max speed is about 65mph. I have not felt any unbalance.
seeing going tubeless, probably a good time to put in in-wheel TPMS ( Tyre Pressure Monitoring System) sensors ???
Oh man... I would love this cruise control for my 2023 NC750X!!!
Cruise control good.
Tubeless bad.
Would love to ride around your part of the world, it looks beautiful.
I'm in England which is also beautiful in a very different way.
Great videos, keep them coming.👍
I bought wheels from Rally Raid. They used an Italian company. The strips were much thicker. It worked great.
Great video! I don’t own a TA, I’m not going to buy a TA, (have a bike with both CC and tubeless, Tuareg 660) but enjoy learning about doing these installations. Enjoyed the video!
Both features are great, no doubt about that. However there's a great BUT in terms of reliability, confidence proven over time. It's enough to make one minor mistake and it actually could be the last one, fatality. I personally belive there is too less benefits and too many variables. Thank you so much for the video 👍
Great video, thanks. You didn't mention the safety factor of tubeless. Many years ago I was doing 75mph on a motorway with luggage and a pillion. The rear tyre deflated instantly and very nearly killed us both! Tubes are thin bits of rubber and can just burst like a balloon. I see no reason to have tubes at all...unless it's for folk who ride along river beds or up rocky mountains...like competition stuff, Scottish 6 day trials kind of thing where big impacts can blow air past tubeless rims. Lots of manufacturers bring out adventure bikes or classics with spoked, tubed wheels, with no option for tubeless...I do not understand this, it must just be lower cost for them. It might just be me, but, after my experience ( I will never forget), I will never buy a tubed motorcycle, unless it's a proper old classic that I would just tootle around on. Any road up, love your channel.😊👍 By the way, these retro fit tape 'tubeless' things don't work.😂
Using commercially available but high temperature resistant sealant, and with Gorilla tape I successfully sealed off both my front and rear rims on my Yamaha T7. Have done nearly 4K km since completed, including some serious off-road work during a lap of Tasmania.
Interesting timing on your tubeless conversion. My friend did this conversion and had a flat going down the highway. Got pulled over and fixed the puncture but the front tire had come off the bead and the air compressor he traveled with could not seat the bead. Had to have someone come pick him up
Thanks for sharing
Great point ! We used to use old tie down straps around the tire to try to squeeze the bead in but it's a huge pain in the ax% too bad Honda didn't at least offer a tubeless version maybe a touring Edition maybe they'll work on that in the future looks like we're stuck with tubes for now😂
@@benb2058 ya this was on a KTM 890 and he tries the ratchet strap but still couldn’t get enough air in it to seat the bead. I’m thinking a co2 cartridge might have worked
When you pressure up the tire, it presses the Outex material to the rim and shrinks those air bubbles around the nipples. So if you have a very slow leak, you could try leaving the wheel out in the sun to warm up and apply 50+ psi for a few days. It may just close those last minor leaks.
I'd put the cruise control on the left side. Having it so close to the kill switch I feel is like an accident waiting to happen. + Since this doesn't allow speed modulation, having the on-off switch on the other side and having the throttle hand free feels safer
Thank you, Ian
Awesome video Ian. Can you also include the Tiger 900 Rally Pro on the comparison video, please?
The great dilemma! I will be opting out of the tubeless...at least for now.... and probably the cruise control too unless i can find a confident motorcycle electrician. THANKS Ian-
Great set of videos on the Transalp. Thank you.
Questions on the tubeless conversion:
1) Is there a difference between tubed and tubeless tires? That is, can I use the OEM supplied tires after installing the tubeless conversion kit, or do I need to change the tires to tubeless tires?
2) Does the OEM rim have a safety bead meant for tubeless tires?
I guess my question is whether this conversion can really be safely done using the OEM wheels and tires.
Thank you.
In my culture, we would call it a dodgy system. I would not trust that. What I would have done is to add some silicone to it. I use to have a flat roof house on the farm and I used a liquid silicone to seal the joints. That is what I would have applied. Not sure about the liquid you get for tyres/tires. Heatgun then put max tyre pressure for a while. Heat, cold, pressure, temp changes, speed, bumps, shock on the tyre over time. I do not think I will ever trust it. Doubt will always be in the back of my mind.
I like the cruise control on my tiger it’s got a digital set click up and down or if you roll on the throttle it remembers the set speed, also if you twist the throttle the opposite way it will also disengage the clutch!
I lot of cars have a small display which shows CC "set speed", so you can set, say , 59 mph, rather than this analog "just hold this speed".. ;)
@@androidemulator6952 it’s nice because I can set at speed limit then roll on the throttle gain 30+ mph let off throttle and it slows back down and catches at speed limit
You can also buy a McCruise cruise control for the Transalp! They’ve been making cruise controls for years!
The little painted dots on your tires are marks to line tire right for the air valves 😊
Completely put me off converting tyres. If Ian struggles a little no way will I try it. I especially agree with saying you don't feel at ease about it. Also makes me even more in awe of the surgeon who will be sewing a new aortic valve into my heart which mustn't leek!
I got silly and spent $ on actual tubeless wheels for my T7. Way overpriced but whatevs, it’s my money, so deal with it 😁
😂 whenever they become available I may be a victim to that also so much more simple to deal with tubeless tires!
Top content, thank you.
This looks pretty amazing. The good folks at Veridian tell me they've got a unit for the NC750x in the works as well. That would be great. These mid-weight 700ish bikes are too good at touring to not get cruise. Honda should just get over itself and add this to the lineups. People would gladly pay for it as an add-on. They're already all throttle by wire anyway.
Most spoke wheels have flat(ish) spoke nipples that fit in dimples in the base of the rim, that can be sealed with
marine caulk and then marine tape over them. The flat plastic discs in the Outex kit then allow the spoke nipples
to turn during spoke tension adjustment without tearing the caulk or tape. A rim with shoulders to seat the tire bead
is important in such tubeless mods, though, and narrow 21" front wheels, don't always have those shoulders.
I think installing the switch on left side is a better solution, on right side it looks very close to kill switch and you need to maybe reposition your hand to set the speed. it can cause partially losening the grip on throttle and setting a different speed rather than the desired one.(if that makes sense )
Without true tubeless rims, I could never truly be comfortable with a compromised solution like this. I can only hope that Honda, Suzuki, and Yamaha will wake up and put true tubeless rims on these style bikes in the future. It would be a huge benefit if some aftermarket companies would start producing true tubeless rims for bikes like the Transalp, Yamaha Tenere 700, and Suzuki Vstrom 800 DE ...and at reasonable prices!
There is a video showing how to use Flex Seal for a tubeless conversion. I have used the tape systems in my mountain bikes, but didn't like the idea of tape for my motorcycles. My concern is long term adhesion at freeway speeds; there is a lot of centrifugal force trying to separate the tape from the rim. I used the Flex Seal successfully and have tested it to 95 mph for 15 minutes at a time. Regardless of system used, it is best to use silicon first on the spoke nipples (see other videos).
I cant wait for veridian make a kit for the suzuki vstrom 800
There are two aspects of tubeless… one, sealing the spoke holes to prevent air loss, and the second is the lip of the rim. It should be designed to seal the bead as well as prevent the bead rolling of when lowering pressures. For those of you in Europe, Haan wheels in the Netherlands can build you a set of tubeless wheels! I have a set for my Honda FX 650 and they are fantastic.
Wow $300 to add cruise to a Transalp is a bargain. It cost me just under $900 for a MCcruise system for my 2014 Honda NC700 ,It was worth every penny too.
Cruise control on a mid weight bike really enhances the whole riding experience.
Thank you 👍🏼
CC switches are better on the left handle bar in my experience, is that an option ? Looks like a nicely made system.
Lack of cc and tubeless tires were the two sole reasons I didn’t get a transalp. Wish I had this video when I placed an order late last year.
When it comes to tubeless
Conversions, this is pretty much the thr exact same procedure as with bicycle conversions. Its not a big deal and the pros outweigh the cons.
Having said that on a mtb I replace the tape once a year. By time it becomes muscle memory and you start doing it in a couple of minutes. On bicycles its pretty much a requirement to have liquid latex sealant. This will seal the bead on the rim and get in any airhole in the tape and block it off. It will also seal small punctures without needing a plug. I’m surprised on motorcycles this is not part of the procedure.