The Red Wings brought him to NHL and I watched all his games and he was NOT a good!! I warned a Sabres die hard about him and said he would suck!! He did. He made a deal with evil to have that Flyers playoff run, but that was just 2 Months!!
Loui Eriksson with the Canucks deserves a mention. He signed a 6 year $36 million deal after scoring 30 goals with Boston (his third 30+ goal campaign) and then over the course of five seasons with Vancouver scored a COMBINED total of 38, or just over 7 per year. Near the end of his tenure he was earning 6 mil just to be a healthy scratch. Oh, and as an omen of things to come, he scored an own goal in his first game with the Canucks! 😂
Living with a Canucks fan I can confirm how hated Messier still is. Total lack of class during his time there and will forever remain a villain in Vancouver. 🤔
It also makes sense to me now that Messier was not chosen to be part of the 1998 Canadian Olympic team, in Nagano. Marc Crawford was coach and I am guessing a few other coaches thought Messier’s best days and vaunted reputation were behind him then.
@@BruceAChristiehe was awful especially early on in Vancouver. There’s a great old game here on YT Detroit at Vancouver where the Detroit announcers are just puzzled by his lack of effort and his overall play. That’s not a good sign if the opposition’s broadcasters are slagging you like that
@@skymagruder5270 It's what happens when you sign a washed up has been, then give him the captaincy after Linden gave it up, then trade Linden ! Remember not only did Messier kick the Canucks every chance he got as an Oiler, but also he won his only Ranger cup at the expense of....the Vancouver Canucks! One of the dumbest signings I ever saw in the NHL, sign your enemy who's killed your team over and over again but wait until he's a has been ! 🙄
Messier in Vancouver is such an outlier. He is loved and respected in a lot of markets, yet he is hated, especially by those between 20 and 45 years of age or so, in Vancouver. I am certain I will never forget and will never forgive. He was terrible here.
If we had paid more for Paul Kariya and Teemu Selanne, I would say that would be one of the biggest busts for the Avs. Expected greatness getting those two back together. Kariya was hurt most of the time and Selanne didn't produce. Such a disappointment.
Any fan or management would jump at the opportunity to land those two but only a local die hard or rabid fan would know the minor details of players. Look at Toews and Kane in the recent years. A total bust and still pulling in over $10M per. Athletes shouldn't be paid ginormous contracts in hope of getting them to produce and in fact, most big time contracts have all been busts at the end of them. Obviously these billionaire owners don't really care so long as the seats are filled and they stay out of the red but it's usually the little guys who end up paying for their mistakes by those grossly overpriced tickets.
Avery wasnt placed on waivers and claimed. He was either bought out or his contract cancelled then brought in on the cheap. Also around the time Jeff Finger was on the Leafs. Brian Burke wasted Money on Mike Van Ryn who was also finished. Van Ryn apologized for not living up to contract
messier mailed it in his 3 years in vancouver. he coasted for the whole deal, brought nothing that he brought to edmonton and NY. what a bum. they should have taken the C off him after the first season.
I'd throw James Neal to Calgary in there as well, that never worked out. Lucic with the Oilers was rough as well, but at least Looch had some good moments with the Oilers in his first couple years
That old crap of a building the Oilers used to play in was causing injuries hand over fist ! Remember what happened with a skate blade and Taylor Halls face? That old building was jinxed I swear !!
I remember when Toronto signed Clarkson for ask that money & wondering what they thought they were getting... the guy had already proven he was AT BEST mediocre then WAY overpaying for Finger...jeez that organization makes poor choices.
I remember how very interested the Oilers were at signing Clarkson and how relieved the fans were after Toronto signed him to a rich contract and not the Oilers! Seems Edmonton's fans had a little more common sense than the Leafs organization did.
For whatever reason Messier just seemed to treat Vancouver like a pay check. There was nothing there for the fans , look at the 98 Canucks, look at that roster
He was going through a lot. His mom died. He wanted to go to Edmonton as it was his favourite team growing up and close to home for him but his wife basically threatened divorce if he went there.
Messier completely DESTROYED a the Canucks Team while there and for years after he left!! I liked Mess a lot, but his out of Control ego got to be TOO MUCH!!
Sheldon Souray and David Clarkson were disaster contracts. I would love to know why a limited sample size of great play (Clarkson with Devils postseason, Souray with Canadiens the year before Oilers) in addition to average play the rest of the time adds up to "we shall sign this saviour!"
Scott Gomez was one of the worst for me. Over 1 million per goal from an almost PPG player at the time of signing. I realize he was a playmaker more than goal scorer, but he regressed fast.
When he signed to Edmonton, Souray should have given half his salary to Andrei Markov, who was watching his back since Souray was a terrible defenceman even if he scored goals.
Is Jeff Finger really worth mentioning? I'm not saying it was a good deal but the leafs weren't exactly a good team they had money to spend. It didn't really cripple them as in compared to some other contracts. For instance someone like Nathan Horton in Columbus who signed a 5.3 million by seven years. He got a career ending injury his first year and since Columbus needs to watch how much they spend it really crippled them. He even eventually got traded for David Clarkson cause at least Clarkson would play for the team
@@spittinvenom9843 -Seriously. Wimp Gretzky was a construct to appease indifferent Americans in an attempt to get them to watch Frostbacks plays Ice Soccer. Allowed to score and skate unmolested cuz Yanks thought hockey was all Slapshot.
@Dennis Makarov Not talking about his tryout with Hurricanes. Talking about his Islanders contract from Mike Milbury that lasted forever. He is still being paid today by the islanders
I love the Canucks gate for Messier. He played so well in Edmonton and New York and is respected league wide. Just goes to show how many years the Canucks organization has been dysfunctional.
You forgot Mitch Miller for Boston earlier this year. How that scumbag even got signed is beyond me. For the 6 people who didn’t hear, Bruins management (the widely hated bunch, and for good reason) in another attempt to further tarnish the Bruins’ reputation, signed a free agent named Mitch Miller without informing league officials, which is against league protocol. Miller also happened to be a racist bully who tormented a special needs student of color at his school for years on end. When the press gave immediate backlash to management, GM Don Sweeney immediately denied any wrongdoing, denied having any say in the signing (really dude?) and the league barred Miller from ever playing an NHL game
Will he be barred from playing in the KHL (home to ex-convicts and NHL exiles like Slava Voynov, Brendan Leipsic who is now a Russian citizen, Jake Virtanen until a bluffed second chance following acquittal, Alex Galchenyuk) or is the IIHF responsible for decisions like these? Also did he mutually elect to leave North Dakota or was he removed from the program as a student?
Just imagine someone comes in to Van nowadays demanding to wear number 37. Yeah. It’s not all about how good of a hockey player the number that’s been associated with.
@@kassiekatze3097 -Ugh..I also hate football numbers on hockey sweaters...no skater should have a number higher than "29". Also? People who dont call them, "sweaters"
@@projektkobra2247 If you hate football numbers on hockey jerseys, something I don't particularly like, then you should be against the concept of retiring numbers. A concept I personally despise. Especially if the number is unofficially retired due to the player dying as opposed to merit on the ice. For the Canucks to throw away number 11 for the next 100 years because of Maki's untimely death amounts to superstitious nonsense in my opinion. Even though I may be in the minority here, I actually applaud Messier for insisting on number 11.
@@jack3868 -In some cases like the Habs and Leaves there isnt much choice but to have football numbers...but any new team that has some goof wearing "81" is preposterous. Messier is a dirtbag for a number of other reasons..not just for disrespecting a player who passed away. Anyone who likes him, well..that says alot about his character.
Sabres signed Ville Leino to 6 years $27M. He played 66 games with 2 goals and 21 points before being bought out.
you missed the first year where he was also awful
@@huevosrancheros9584 oh my bad good catch! Yeah so 137 games, 10 goals and 46 points.
The Red Wings brought him to NHL and I watched all his games and he was NOT a good!! I warned a Sabres die hard about him and said he would suck!! He did. He made a deal with evil to have that Flyers playoff run, but that was just 2 Months!!
@@chrisphillips348 red wings fan. His buffalo deal made no sense
@@davidkruse4030 Yep!! That Sabres fan I said I warned called me after 1 week! “Get this guy out of here!” He said.
Messier is the worst for what he did in Vancouver... Keenan too. Both were over the hill has beens by that point
Loui Eriksson with the Canucks deserves a mention. He signed a 6 year $36 million deal after scoring 30 goals with Boston (his third 30+ goal campaign) and then over the course of five seasons with Vancouver scored a COMBINED total of 38, or just over 7 per year. Near the end of his tenure he was earning 6 mil just to be a healthy scratch. Oh, and as an omen of things to come, he scored an own goal in his first game with the Canucks! 😂
That signing was confusing from the start. Love Eriksson over the course of his career but the term and price never made sense.
And yet, the Eriksson deal seems like the good old days compared to the amount of terrible contracts the Canucks have now.
Maki was garbage
Honorable mention for Parise and Suter's 98M, 13-year contracts.
Suter wasn't even that great in Nashville, I don't know what the Wild saw in him to give him a massive contract. Predators got better after he left. 🤷
@@emperorpalpatine1228 He was largely a product of playing with Shea Weber as his D pairing
@@emperorpalpatine1228 Plus he was a locker room cancer both in Nashville and Minnesota.
@@ivankikuichimonji28 Yet Suter was the 1st rounder and Weber was a second rounder. Go figure.
That was a disaster
Living with a Canucks fan I can confirm how hated Messier still is. Total lack of class during his time there and will forever remain a villain in Vancouver. 🤔
But Vancouver is a classless town so it should have been a perfect match
It also makes sense to me now that Messier was not chosen to be part of the 1998 Canadian Olympic team, in Nagano. Marc Crawford was coach and I am guessing a few other coaches thought Messier’s best days and vaunted reputation were behind him then.
@@BruceAChristie at that point I'd been afraid of home bringing cocaine into.japan.
@@BruceAChristiehe was awful especially early on in Vancouver. There’s a great old game here on YT Detroit at Vancouver where the Detroit announcers are just puzzled by his lack of effort and his overall play. That’s not a good sign if the opposition’s broadcasters are slagging you like that
@@skymagruder5270 It's what happens when you sign a washed up has been, then give him the captaincy after Linden gave it up, then trade Linden ! Remember not only did Messier kick the Canucks every chance he got as an Oiler, but also he won his only Ranger cup at the expense of....the Vancouver Canucks! One of the dumbest signings I ever saw in the NHL, sign your enemy who's killed your team over and over again but wait until he's a has been ! 🙄
Messier in Vancouver is such an outlier. He is loved and respected in a lot of markets, yet he is hated, especially by those between 20 and 45 years of age or so, in Vancouver. I am certain I will never forget and will never forgive. He was terrible here.
F Messier.
Messier did nothing but collect a paycheck. He was done.
If we had paid more for Paul Kariya and Teemu Selanne, I would say that would be one of the biggest busts for the Avs. Expected greatness getting those two back together. Kariya was hurt most of the time and Selanne didn't produce. Such a disappointment.
Any fan or management would jump at the opportunity to land those two but only a local die hard or rabid fan would know the minor details of players. Look at Toews and Kane in the recent years. A total bust and still pulling in over $10M per. Athletes shouldn't be paid ginormous contracts in hope of getting them to produce and in fact, most big time contracts have all been busts at the end of them. Obviously these billionaire owners don't really care so long as the seats are filled and they stay out of the red but it's usually the little guys who end up paying for their mistakes by those grossly overpriced tickets.
@@MisterMister5893pro sports, in general, need production based contracts to a degree.
Vegas thanks Jamie Benn for SCREWING Dallas out of the 2023 Stanley Cup Championship.
They weren't going to beat the knights even if he doesn't lay that hit on stone. The knights are a better team.
Avery wasnt placed on waivers and claimed. He was either bought out or his contract cancelled then brought in on the cheap.
Also around the time Jeff Finger was on the Leafs. Brian Burke wasted Money on Mike Van Ryn who was also finished. Van Ryn apologized for not living up to contract
Karl Alzner 5 year $23.125 million contract with Montreal that signing didn’t turn out well
😂
Honorable Mention: Stephen Weiss, Detroit Red Wings.
messier mailed it in his 3 years in vancouver. he coasted for the whole deal, brought nothing that he brought to edmonton and NY. what a bum. they should have taken the C off him after the first season.
I'd throw James Neal to Calgary in there as well, that never worked out. Lucic with the Oilers was rough as well, but at least Looch had some good moments with the Oilers in his first couple years
James Neal's career took a nosedive after he left Vegas.
@@emperorpalpatine1228 very true. Crazy how quickly he fell off, some of it due to injury as well to be fair
Souray was so injury prone. Oilers gave lubomir visnovsky a ton of money to fill in. He was injury prone too
That old crap of a building the Oilers used to play in was causing injuries hand over fist ! Remember what happened with a skate blade and Taylor Halls face? That old building was jinxed I swear !!
@MrManfly no, it wasn’t the building, it was called poor management.
I remember when Toronto signed Clarkson for ask that money & wondering what they thought they were getting... the guy had already proven he was AT BEST mediocre then WAY overpaying for Finger...jeez that organization makes poor choices.
I remember how very interested the Oilers were at signing Clarkson and how relieved the fans were after Toronto signed him to a rich contract and not the Oilers! Seems Edmonton's fans had a little more common sense than the Leafs organization did.
It's not a coincidence that Toronto is on the list twice, an entire full length documentary could be made on Toronto's bad signings alone.
And the Tuukka Rask & Phil Kessel trades
Messier is the worst Canuck EVER... Did nothing
For whatever reason Messier just seemed to treat Vancouver like a pay check. There was nothing there for the fans , look at the 98 Canucks, look at that roster
Redden struggled with alcoholism when he arrived in New York. He never really got out of his own way
He was going through a lot. His mom died. He wanted to go to Edmonton as it was his favourite team growing up and close to home for him but his wife basically threatened divorce if he went there.
Souray was a stud for the oil for a bit there.. funny at the time 27 mil over 5 years seemed like a lot for a dman
Mike Komisarek in Toronto was another bad signing.
Messier completely DESTROYED a the Canucks Team while there and for years after he left!! I liked Mess a lot, but his out of Control ego got to be TOO MUCH!!
Forgot he was there
Sheldon Souray and David Clarkson were disaster contracts.
I would love to know why a limited sample size of great play (Clarkson with Devils postseason, Souray with Canadiens the year before Oilers) in addition to average play the rest of the time adds up to "we shall sign this saviour!"
Clarkson, still living that dumpster fire
Scott Gomez was one of the worst for me. Over 1 million per goal from an almost PPG player at the time of signing. I realize he was a playmaker more than goal scorer, but he regressed fast.
When he signed to Edmonton, Souray should have given half his salary to Andrei Markov, who was watching his back since Souray was a terrible defenceman even if he scored goals.
Is Jeff Finger really worth mentioning? I'm not saying it was a good deal but the leafs weren't exactly a good team they had money to spend. It didn't really cripple them as in compared to some other contracts. For instance someone like Nathan Horton in Columbus who signed a 5.3 million by seven years. He got a career ending injury his first year and since Columbus needs to watch how much they spend it really crippled them. He even eventually got traded for David Clarkson cause at least Clarkson would play for the team
I really thought Scott Gomez's stint with the Canadiens would've made this list. That was atrocious.
Brian burke has his finger prints all over these deals
Mess sitting court side at a Vancouver Grizzlies game with the owner was not a good look.
What Messier did to Bure is pretty fucked up.
Gotta think Bryzgalov and the Flyers should make the list.
His contract was based purely off his play in PHX
Bro you missed the biggest part about the Messier hate... he went back to the NYR and beat Vancouver in Game 7 of the SC finals the following year.
Your math is wrong. Rangers beat the Canucks in 1994, Messier went to Vancouver in 1997.
Messier shattering the Canucks twice is what Dbags do.
Frans Nilsson was worst then these. We hated him here in Detroit
Leafs could have owned all six
i was gonna say Wayne Gretzky
Seriously?
@@spittinvenom9843 -Seriously.
Wimp Gretzky was a construct to appease indifferent Americans in an attempt to get them to watch Frostbacks plays Ice Soccer.
Allowed to score and skate unmolested cuz Yanks thought hockey was all Slapshot.
I mean Clarkson jumped over the boards because John Scott was going after Phil Kessel
Ur doomed for failure when ur name is reddit
If you think these are the worst in nhl history, you are not a hockey guy
who else should be on this list then? Only other ones I can think of are Scott Gomez (NYR) and Ryan Smyth (Avs)
The obvious choice are Rick DiPietro.
@@Crushbra was he really a free agent signing tho?
@Dennis Makarov Not talking about his tryout with Hurricanes. Talking about his Islanders contract from Mike Milbury that lasted forever. He is still being paid today by the islanders
@@Crushbra Right, but didn’t they draft him? They had his rights, he wasn’t a free agent.
I'm glad the Leafs gave Jeff the Finger 🖕
I love the Canucks gate for Messier. He played so well in Edmonton and New York and is respected league wide.
Just goes to show how many years the Canucks organization has been dysfunctional.
Huberdaue big time bust for the flames
Krug with the Blues....
Sean avery is a funny guy.
Messier works Canuck in history.
Souray...fun Hab.
As a Dallas fan..
That's not complete sentence.
Seguin and Suter are fucking useless.
@@kevinmach730 you're not a complete sentence either
@@mattalan6618 lol
@@kevinmach730 he he. i didnt mean it to be rude. it was an easy joke i HAD to make
Jeff Finger omg
To b3 honest, does Sean Avery even like himself ?
Even James Wisniewski gave him a taste of karma in 2010-11, getting a 2-game suspension in the process
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You forgot Mitch Miller for Boston earlier this year. How that scumbag even got signed is beyond me. For the 6 people who didn’t hear, Bruins management (the widely hated bunch, and for good reason) in another attempt to further tarnish the Bruins’ reputation, signed a free agent named Mitch Miller without informing league officials, which is against league protocol. Miller also happened to be a racist bully who tormented a special needs student of color at his school for years on end. When the press gave immediate backlash to management, GM Don Sweeney immediately denied any wrongdoing, denied having any say in the signing (really dude?) and the league barred Miller from ever playing an NHL game
Will he be barred from playing in the KHL (home to ex-convicts and NHL exiles like Slava Voynov, Brendan Leipsic who is now a Russian citizen, Jake Virtanen until a bluffed second chance following acquittal, Alex Galchenyuk) or is the IIHF responsible for decisions like these? Also did he mutually elect to leave North Dakota or was he removed from the program as a student?
Mark should be 11. Maki sucked
Its not about "sucking"...(and YOUR NHL career was..what now?) It's about someone passing away while on your team, and honouring his contribution.
Just imagine someone comes in to Van nowadays demanding to wear number 37. Yeah. It’s not all about how good of a hockey player the number that’s been associated with.
@@kassiekatze3097 -Ugh..I also hate football numbers on hockey sweaters...no skater should have a number higher than "29".
Also? People who dont call them, "sweaters"
@@projektkobra2247 If you hate football numbers on hockey jerseys, something I don't particularly like, then you should be against the concept of retiring numbers. A concept I personally despise. Especially if the number is unofficially retired due to the player dying as opposed to merit on the ice. For the Canucks to throw away number 11 for the next 100 years because of Maki's untimely death amounts to superstitious nonsense in my opinion. Even though I may be in the minority here, I actually applaud Messier for insisting on number 11.
@@jack3868 -In some cases like the Habs and Leaves there isnt much choice but to have football numbers...but any new team that has some goof wearing "81" is preposterous.
Messier is a dirtbag for a number of other reasons..not just for disrespecting a player who passed away.
Anyone who likes him, well..that says alot about his character.