7 MORE Incredibly Hard Super Bosses You Definitely Didn't Beat First Time Round
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Not all super bosses are create equal. Some are challenging, but beatable... while others just take things to a whole new level.
Within this video we're going to explore 7 more super bosses who just wiped the floor the first time they were faced, as their moves were unexpected and the power they exhibited was just far too great... that was, until a proper strategy was formed! :D
►KEY POINTS WITHIN THIS VIDEO
1. Iron Giant (Final Fantasy III)
2. Emerald Weapon (Final Fantasy VII)
3. Pandaemonium Warden (Final Fantasy XI)
4. Almighty Shinra (Final Fantasy X-2
5. Minerva (Crisis Core)
6. Chaos Aeronite (Lightning Returns)
7. The Judge Magisters (Final Fantasy XII The Zodiac Age)
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still to this day, I am still stuck on Shinryu in FFV, because of how brutal he is. the grinding in order to prep for this boss, is unlike any other game ive seen. the strats in order to beat him at low level is utterly ridiculous.
Hey guys good to see you again!
Why haven't you acknowledged that sephiroth is in smash ultimate?
instablaster
Have you done a (Most Absurd Rewards For The Effort) yet? For instance: receiving the useless gold bird after all the effort put in to create one?..lol in FF7
I like how the Judge Magisters fight is basically you fighting another FF party, and it demonstrates how incredibly powerful an FF party is.
Yeah it's like so fucking cool and badass, i always loved ff12 and it's characters and the political nature of it, this fight back in my ps2 days would've been my dream, and now it's real
Hell yea
@@TactfulWaggle Same, but sadly I didn't get the zodiac age, I need damn ps4 and I don't think my Pc is enough to handle it
Is it possible to get the magistrate armor you know the dude in the cover or not?
Online multiplayer battle would be lit !!
It's about time the ff12 judges fight gets recognized. That was tough, especially since it's after 99 other fights
I still haven't beat that fight to this day.
@@GhostWulf70792 The accessory Nihopalaoa is your friend for that fight. Nihopalaoa +remedy = inflict lots of statuses. Nihopalaoa + serum/vaccine= disease (only works on like 3 of them but it's well worth it since it counters elixir). Dark energy is also great if you can get your hands on it.
@@Shadowultd well thank you, i completely forgot about that strat. I attempted them twice, failed, but i am kinda hesitant to try them again because of the two prior fights.
@@Shadowultd The summon Zeromus if done right (give it extra health and then use elixer I believe to reduce it to 1 with the nihopalaoa) with his ultimate move will kill 1 if not 2 judges which helps a lot.
First time I fought them, I was like "HoOoow?!" Lol
I love how Aeronite's ability is basically just "Fuck this shit, I'm out". Just...being able to just get up and leave the battle completely feels even more embarrassing and insulting to just dying countless times.
I beat him for the first time a week or so ago for the platinum. I love Lightning Returns and it’s wild he’s harder then the final boss! I had to make an op and cheap set up so I can actually do it
@@Evan.280 Artemis Arrow isn't a cheap strat. It's put in the game for a reason, don't feel guilty for using it 😂
@@Evan.280 that's the whole concept of a super boss to make the Final Boss look like a pauper congrats on your platinum trophy I loved Lightning Returns a lot too so surprised it got so much hate and bad reviews
@@widexawake_ i remember fighting him using quiet guardian with fencer's earring and ghostly hood, basically giving you immunity to damage at the cost of no damage with deprotect, deshell and imperal, a stagger garb(i think i used midnight mauve... its been a long time) and the miqo'te dress, unleash hell with magic slash, iirc it was doing a few 100k a hit, basically all you did was switch into quiet guardian when being attacked, place the debuffs on him, then focus with your stagger build and miquo'te dress to break him 4 times, then watch his life drain with magic slash
@@Evan.280 I'd say the + version of the final boss is harder than Aeronite and Ereshkigal on Hard.
Zack: took down the goddess
Also zack...got killed by a couple hundred infantry.
To be fair he was wounded from the fight with sephiroth
Until...
@@athallahnaufalhafizh2073 And exhausted from sleepless days lugging around his friends
Zack wasnt beaten by those weaklings! T.T he was beaten by the almighty cutscene.
You gotta give it to the man, he was beaten and exhausted, and he still held his own for a really long time
"There are many viable strategies online for obliterating Ruby and Emerald now" - Yes, thank you Mike from 4-8 Productions.
deathunitesus wins all
I agree. I never beat them as a child but in my college years when I learned about emulators, I played the game again and beat them easily following youtube strategies.
Just use the final attack and phoenix combo beats all
He's the Final Fantasy VII king, I've been obsessed with the game for 20 years and that guy still puts my knowledge to shame.
@@LemonTangWang He's a very prominent member of the FFVII speedrunning community as well. He has multiple, and current, records, and he's usually the guy that spreads the knowledge of a new speedrun strategy across the rest of the community. One thing about speedrunners is you can never count them out when it comes to discovering new things about a game. There are people who are still finding new things in the original Mario games, Ninja Gaiden and Contra.
You also forgot to mention that the judges punish you for daring to use Reverse by throwing Elixirs at you. That's one strategy down the drain.
remedies and the quid whatever accessory
I can't even focus on the video with this music playing. It's taking me back to THAT scene with Nanaki and his petrified dad. My heart
The Great Warrior Seto as the song is named. This scene made me cry and I was just 4 years old and it was the first game I ever played. Nanaki was my baby.
Funny how Absolute Virtue, and Pandemonium Warden were fought for hours considering every time I logged in, there would be a message telling me not to destroy my life playing their game without taking breaks.
I think they put that message up because of the panamodium warden, and because it made news
Well about AV we killed it back than in about 5-6 minutes at about lvl 65. wich was no big deal with Alexander. Too bad we didn’t do PW back than.
I have fond memories of the Judge Magisters fight. At the time, while there were guides online that told you how to access the fight, everyone was shockingly tight-lipped about it. It was almost like there was an unofficial community agreement that no one would let you know what you were in for.
“Pandemonium Warden”
Oh god, I never even fought the damn thing and I get war flashbacks. I was *there* man. The drama was real, everyone was absolutely stunned at how difficult it was. And this is a game where the community had gotten *used* to large scale notorious monster fights lasting *4+ hours*. It was nuts.
Yeah it makes me wonder if they even tested fighting him.
is this ff11?
@@sygfridlink4148 yeah
pfft, they didn't even mention that it was eventually found out that the original was literally impossible to beat (I think it was due to recovering faster than players could deal damage. They even patched out exploits players found that allowed it to be beaten XD )
Judge magisters took so much micromanagement but was super fun. Basically I saved all my items in the game for it.
In retrospective... yes, it was an awesome battle. But when i fought them, i couldn't have been more stressed and... pissed at the game xD
We've all been there; Submerged in the submarine, you get a look around and suddenly this weird green thing is just moving around. Your curiosity gets the better of you, you make a move towards it, and then you're met with a game over.
That stomp man...plus I hadn't saved for like 2 hours....
You've been there. I haven't.
@@NicktheQuick71 cool
Yeah I went against him 5 or 6 times until I gave up. I thought I had a shot at him boy was I wrong.
@@jakstorm3180 Wow that's really bad. Emerald Weapon is like the easiest super boss of any Final Fantasy game.
I'm not sure what's more surprising, the list of bosses, or the fact somebody willingly used Penelo as a leader in FF12.
Lol, don't let the ponytails fool ya, she can be a total beast in the international version of the game.
Penelo with Black Mage + Monk is beast
@@edotendo2196 I prefer that combo with ashe since she has the highest magic stat and decent physical attack for the monk side of things
Penelo is a attention hog
Penelo as a shikari is a beast
My god nanaki's theme is one of the best composed songs in a game. still gives me shivers to this day
The Great Warrior Seto still makes me remember Nanakis howl and the intense feelings I felt. Nanaki's theme Cosmo Canyon makes me smile a little and feel like I just came back home.
I tried fighting the 5 judges in FF12. In the first 10 seconds they cast Reverse (which turns damage into healing, and healing into damage) on Balthier, and then threw an elixir at him, killing him instantly.
I shut the game off and never fought them again.
Get the Wyrmhero Blade and put on the Genji Gloves to your highest DPS character with Haste casted and you'll make the Judges your bitch. 80% chance to do up to 12 hits in one attack.
I loved the gambit system in ff12. It was rewarding to fully utilize the system during the Judge boss fight.
That level 100 trial in the zodiac age was one of the few times in all gaming I could feel the 8 year old rage within me for the first time in decades. All you have to do is get one of them to fall and it gets easier, but that is some asking.
I fought em once, got wrecked and said that’s it I’m done 😂 I was kinda burnt out by the time I got to them though did every quest and filled up the bestiary.
The freaking Tonberry from ffvii taught me a lesson for real, to never judge something by appearance. I actually find it really scary
XD I sat for ages being murdered over and over just to morph those stabby jerks 😤
@@KillerGothChick lmaoo xD
I really like there design
@@saltmiester720 there are pretty cool, the one in WOFF is cool tonberry too 😀
@@KillerGothChick yea the colosseum one is cool its voice is weirdly deep
Of course, we never noticed the first time we got hit by Aire Tam Storm that "Aire Tam" is Materia spelled backwards.
Pile the irony on for 1111 damage for every equipped materia...
Hilarious.
There’s an easy way to beat that. Each party member only has one equipped: Enemy Skill
@@AzureMoebius22 And maybe - but your first time, you definitely did not know that
@@WavemasterAshi I didn’t actively go after it. Hell I didn’t even get to finish FFVII because my PS2 died
@@AzureMoebius22 The first time you ran into Emerald WEAPON, one of four things had occurred.
1) You bumped into it by accident and got curbstomped. That doesn't really count here because it wasn't really a fight.
2) You bumped into it our of curiosity and got curbstomped. That doesn't really count here because it wasn't really a fight.
3) You knew it was SOMETHING big but not what, so you loaded for war with your best gear/materia. In which case you didn't know about Aire Tam Storm and got teamwiped.
4) You had looked up a guide beforehand. I wouldn't really go counting it if you spoil the whole thing ahead of time.
Aaaah... Seto's theme in the background
Beat Yiazmat without the Reverse gambit back in 2007. The ultimate war of attrition. I didn’t even know the reverse strategy would have cut the time in half. The battle took 6hrs just to receive the Wrymhero Blade as trophy.
same... 10 hours for me tho lol. I was NOT good at the game back then. but not knowing the reverse stuff.... I could've saved so much time lol.
@@zerobeatw2059 same here as well. I really had no clue how to use the gambit mechanics and and just put everyone to auto atk and heal for about 90% of the game. I was just lucky RNG dropped 2 Yagyu Darkblades from that one Mob and I went to town with Baltier and Basch as my main attackers and had Ashe on heal the entire time.
@@peterk.m58 the joys of being older and actually understanding a game better does wonders. yeah, back in 2007 I was basically playing the same way. but now I'm closer to handling it like a single player mmo lol. tanks, dps, healers and actual setups with the gambits.
6 hours? Damn. I thought I took my time clocking almost 3 hours with solid gambits, high-level setup, and several breaks (you can leave the arena to replenish and rebuff).
Same, I remember leaving my PS2 turned on for 2 days as I couldn't finish the fight in one go, it took me over 10h. The strategy was basically 2 healer/supports with 1 DPS in Berserk dealing the damage cap. Considering that I was level ~79 and not knowing any strategies, I can say that I am relatively proud with the achievement :P
With that said I think the original version of the game made things easier by making all characters have all Licenses available. They changed it because yes, from a game design perspective it's boring to have all 6 party members be basically the same character (can equip any item, learn any spell), but that is also what made things easier. I'm sure that if I had the job system as a kid I would make a stupid combination of jobs that would probably make my characters weaker than they would otherwise be.
I’ve played all FFs from 1 to 15. FF12 judges are still by far the most difficult superbosses for me. Honestly, most FF superbosses are manageable once you max everything out and have the right equips but even all that doesn’t work against the judges. They will still kill you in like 30 seconds
All of them can’t hold a candle to the first great molboro you fight in the omega ruins
I love the Malboro design wise but my gosh do I hate fighting them.
Malboro in FFX are easily the single cause of most of my gameovers
@@Walamonga1313 for me its FF8. It always starts with bad breath and no matter what I did, it would screw my entire team into killing each other.
Bruh. Yes.
I don’t know why, but something about Tidus in my team made him wake up from the worst stats quite early and let me flee. I checked, he didn’t have a ribbon or something
I miss fighting the Judges!
My PS4 gave up and had to be rebuted on 2018, taking with it 600+h of save data... and, since then, I haven't had the guts to restart some huge games like FFXII, FFXV and the KH collection (which I was in the middle of KH1, thank god) _but I'm definitely missing challenging my favorite fight from my favorite game...
The judges were a beast. So much planning went into beating that fight. So much kiting around the room lol
Iron Giant, at full health: (Using literal space rock to crush you)
Iron Giant, now at half HP: “Now I’m angy” (upgrades to slashing you with a sword)
When I played FF7 ages ago, I avoided the weapons like a plague after getting my butt kicked more times than I can count.
thought it was funny he mentioned them as a noob trap - i dunno, some big fucker, bigger than my sub, swimming around in the ocean, in a game where enemies aren't visible on the main map, i have no idea how that didn't send up football field sized red flags to not fuck with them.
@@leeman27534 Same. I maybe gave it a try once and then noped the hell out, lol! I was only playing the original FF7 at the time due to having Crisis Core and knew thatz whime it was a prequel storywisez it was expected that FF7 had been played first, so I did that. It semi-spoiled the impact of CC's ending, but I still shed some tears for Zack, lol. But yeah, I just rushed FF7. Might replay it at some point, though. If I finish my FF7R hard mode run.
Very few things scared me as a kid the way that the water in FFVII did.
I'd completely avoid the ocean around Junon after a couple of bad days 😂
And the worst thing was when you finally muster up the courage to go beneath the surface and Emerald is just right in front of you and staring at you as soon as the screen renders...
I hated that thing 😅
I dove down once and landed right on top of it :3
Yeah that and the crazy monsters in the sunken ship 🫣
@@jordang9434 they were definitely an acquired taste.
But when you're a kid and didn't really understand material combinations... they were some of the hardest random fights in the entire game...
Fun fact: you can fight a modern version of almost all of the bosses mentioned in this video in FFXIV
Only Emerald Weapon is in XIV and Iron Giants appear as regular enemies
@@Geo07ism Soon you will probably be able to fight the Warden from FFXI in FFXIV. Though, got to wait until the Pandemonium Raid. lol
@@Geo07ism Ruby weapon is a boss as well.
Gabranth will be a boss soon, too.
Yes, because FF14 focuses too hard on nostalgia instead of making anything in the game outside of it's story and music any good. Everywhere you turn, it's just a circle-jerk of seeing stuff from past, much better games.
The music, your voice, the editing ...so beautiful. Thank you for this content.
To this day, I’m still stuck on that magister fight.
Me sitting here sweating nervously with a crazed grin thinking of what kind of super boss will be in Final Fantasy 16.
Personally, I'd like to see a ff8 style omega weapon as the secret boss. But, another part of me wants something brand new, never seen before.
Knights Of The Rounds perhaps? Since it is medieval it would be suit really well
@@edotendo2196 whoa. NOW THATS A GOOD IDEA!!!!!!!
Probably nothing interesting, given the look of the game and their new direction
@@RichieAnthonyGuitar What do you mean ? How does the game look and what's with the direction ? Haha
When I first saw Emerald weapon in the deep, I steered clear of it and stumbled upon a cave that had that staff item by chance. My roommate glared at me for my luck. She had a lot of trouble finding that thing. Lol
Super boss: Is this your first rpg?
Newbie: ... Y-yes...
Super boss: Don't worry boyo. I'll be gentle.
AIRE TAM STORM WELCOME TO LIFE BOY
"It was not gentle."
"Well that was a f*ING lie"
The reaper (P3) ended my party when I went to make a sandwich LIAR!
That’s basically what was said to all new players when FFVII initially got released in USA and we all ran into Emerald by mistake. 😭
Thanks for the upload and thanks for showing FF3 some love 👍
Glad you always dedicate some time to FF XI, used to love that game. And yes, I was around when Pandemonium Warden was fought pre-nerf and I remember all the drama that came from it in the following weeks. My Linkshell perished countless times to Absolute Virtue and to Pandemonium Warden
Yeah, AV and PW were nuts, iirc nobody ever beat em without cheating or abusing souleater before being nerfed.
Final Fantasy XII: Zodiac Age is actually far easier than the PS2 version is. I broke the "time played" counter on the PS2 version 3 different times so I should know lol. Plus Final Fantasy XII is my favorite video game of all time and always will be. I beat almost all the bosses the first time on the PS2 version besides Yiazmat and Zodiark. In the Zodiac Age though I did beat them all the first time in the main game and in the Trial Mode. Get the Wyrmhero Blade and combine it with the Genji Gloves with Haste and you will combo hit bosses to death. You get an 80% chance to do combo hits. I've gotten Vaan to do a 10 hit combo almost every time he attacked.
The ability to speed up gameplay made a huge difference. I couldn’t see myself fighting against Yiazmat for 8+ hours in the original release. I defeated him in Zodiac Age easily.
Dude I literally watched your other super boss vid the other day. And now you've a new one wow lol
I 100% Lightning Returns & very much proud. Aeronite was a beast. Thankfully i had 80'000 HP & dozens of NG+ stats lol
Ah yes another quality video from a fantastic disembodied voice and an amazing team behind him
Minerva was a WILD fight when you first head into it. Took several tries and Goblin Punches to beat her.
Totally forget about Goblin Punches!!!
Out of the bosses I've fought on this list, Minerva holds my greatest accomplishment: winning with only 1 phoenix down. Slots be praised.
Love the piano in the background. Wonderful stuff.
Maybe I've just been oblivious... But I like the new intro. :-) Love these videos!
Glad to see Ruby Weapon on here, I thought everyone had trouble with this guy, but now in the future it seems it was only me.
Oh man... Aeronite... that battle still haunts me... I don't know HOW I would have done it without Magic Slash from the Miqote garb...
The judges are so broken. Gabranth, Ghis, and Zagabranth throw elixirs around like candy. Ghis has the lowest health but the other two will just toss elixirs at him. Only by using the bonebreaker was I able to bring the group down to two and make quick work of them.
Agree, it likes playing against real life experienced player
It makes sense, they have all the resources of Arcadis to their disposal its natural that they have tons of elixiers
FFXII judges did not mess around. Mostly used the Zeromus strat which took out the more obnoxious judges and kept normally going. Still says a lot how you can't even expect beating the trial with just the invisible bow, I like it
Wyrmhero blade and Genji Gloves with Haste on your higest DPS character and the Judges are punk bitches lmao. Got Vaan to do 10 hit combos almost every time he attacked.
Judge magisters have that chad imposing walk. I'm scared already.
The Judges will always be my favorite bosses only and because of their cameo or specifically Gabranth as mediator for every encounter. Before I even knew of FFXII I just thought his design was cool AF
The judges were always my favorite characters. So cool.
Hell, I just learned to start taking my time with big bosses on FFXII, especially the optional espers.
I wish Espers were pretty strong
@@Omega-jg4oq I... stumbled ...across the Esper in the Highlwastes after doing a puzzle I didn't know was a puzzle. Need more levels
Thanks for listening to me on the previous list including Minerva here! :D
I maintain that Emerald is WAAAAAAAY easier than Ruby. Most of the strategies around Ruby center around crazy exploits, either by setting up the 7777 attack (which was barely known at the time of release), or exploits that use dazers, which are only found in a handful places (if not only one place). The fact that he was effected by stop is also EXTREMELY unusual for a boss, making it very unlikely for someone to figure that out on their own.
Emerald only really required the knowledge of Final Attack, Phoenix, KotR, Mime, and Underwater materia (and even this isn't 100% necessary), most of which were found through normal progress. Once you get the first cast of KotR off, all you need to do is continue to Mime the attack, and wham-bam he'll be dead. If he does a party wipe, Final Attack and Phoenix have your back. Any Super Boss that can be killed by spamming the "Ultra-Omega-Super-Power Attack" should be considered too easy.
Unfortunately, I have only made it as far as level 81 in FFXII, so I haven't even seen half of the bosses... Gambits help, however, I've been too lazy to setup a solely ITEM based gambit, which is why 81 is troublesome. Thanks you sharing these, as I've only ever fought Minerva so far.
i love the ruby and emerald weapon fights it took me and a friend over 2 years of no-internet theorycrafting before we finally got there our first guess was you needed a party of maxed characters so yeah we had alot of fun (or time for that matter) in ff7 without a doubt my favourite game ever with 500+ hours on steam and probably several real time months of time on the psx filling up full memory cards with special challenges me and my friends made up in the game it is a masterpiece even if i ignore the insane nostalgia factor
Still makes me feel proud that I was part of the world-first Pandemonium Warden spawn. Character name was “Selendile” in the infamous ‘Atnm test’ pic. Haha
Sometime after SE instituted the first version of Log-In points, (where your traded log-in points to a Goblin in Wajoam Woods) i had built up a pretty sizeable stack of points, so i decided to go turn them in for random items. Trading to the goblin eventually an exclamation point appeared over his face (a la Metal Gear Solid) and he gave me a Pandemonium Key. I tried to sell it for the LONGEST time, but never found any buyers. Ended up keeping it in my inventory for the longest. And at some point, well after 99 cap, i was burned out on the game i decided to just put together a group before I took a long break. The drops were mostly considered out-dated by that point, but If i remember correctly defeating him gave an Atma in Abyssea which few people would have had. We slaughtered him. The only drop i specifically remember getting was Dorje, but by that time there were much better staves.
I love this type of video, FF has such a rich history when it comes to challenging fights.
I feel I have to mention Bhunivelze+ on Hard difficulty for Lightning Returns, although he doesn't fit the category, because he's not optional, he is IMHO so much harder than both Aeronite and Ereshkigal (another optional boss that can be quite the challenge in LR).
As for XII I should mention Omega Mark XII as well, but the Judges are way harder so, moot point 😁
As for other noteworthy bosses I'd mention the optional fight against Noctis in Ignis' DLC in FF XV, he will literally use EVERYTHING against you, Armiger, all of his Ring of the Lucii attacks (especially Alterna). Great video!
Yeah Bhunivelze+ was no pushover took alot for me to defeat him but Chaos Aeonite still more difficult for me
Ayyy Beyond the Limitation, and Sylphet in particular. She used to invite me to merit parties all the time, kept me going through a lot of the grind in the 75cap era.
The only superbosses I beat in the Final Fantasy series is both ruby and emerald weapons in final fantasy 7 and ultima weapon in FF8. Great to see you guys still putting out great content wish I had time to keep up with all of it.
12 yr old me trying to beat the ff12 judges without internet :'(
There was no trial mode when you were 12, unless you were 12 with no internet 4 years ago when the game came out.
@@kkeithf You know FFXII IZJS which is the same as Zodiac age released about 14 years ago right?
@@kkeithf
The international version of 12 came out in 2007. The remastered of same game came out a few years ago.
@@kkeithf Lol mate before Zodiac Age there was International Zodiac Job System and it was 4 times harder than the Zodiac Age since you only allowed to pick 1 job for each character
@@kkeithf maybe next time fact checking before commenting
Thanks for featuring me in a few seconds of the video ! 🙏🙌
Culex in SMRPG was my first ever "superboss" (if you want to techincally count it) and as a kid who didn't fully understand roles in an RPG I didn't chose ideal stat bonuses at levelup so that boss was HARD and I felt SO satisfied beating it way back when. Sure as an adult I can piss through the boss like a joke, but as a kid it was an intense challenge that took me multiple tries and forever holds a special place in my heart
I bet no one has looked at emerald weapon on there first playthrough and thought AH I'm run right at that "easy" fight lol
Well uh, you see.....
But fr tho I charged right at him with a war cry, and left with just a simple cry.
Oh I absolutely did....and instantly died....then I was forever scared of going down in the ocean. Every time I was in the submarine I'd be sweating seeing that monstrosity floating about the deep off in the distance.
Same. I 100% ran right into him knowing it was a fight. It was not a fight. It was a massacre. We knew what Aerith felt underwater
@@beefymcshazmoo oh no did you not save before ur first go at it? Lol in any game I'm playing i see big ass thing is distance? Save, I woundnt dive for ages casue i was trying to grind to then murder that green bitch XD
@@Tsuteto I scared so many ppl saw that gaint green bastard and nodded to themselves and then attacked.🤣 I kept out of his way just to get to the sub
FF XII's idea of a hard boss usually boils down to:
"Now that my health is at 25% I have 400% attack and 250% more defense. Oh, I'm also invincible for a minute so enjoy while I proceed to spam my area of effect, status altering super attack".
Before watching the video: A super boss list, you piqued my interest, lets see your take on them
Piqued*
@@Patkilla7558 thank you, English is not my first language
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In FF7 back in the day. As soon as I could access the _Sunken Gelnika_ I'd acquire the Double Cut Materia, equip it to the the Apocalypse Sword and head to the forests around Mideel and master it until everyone had 4 x Cut. With triple growth you'll get between 720 - 1120 AP a battle.With Slash-All/Flash equipped the battles will be fast and should take no more than a couple of hours of grinding to achieve.With this I defeat Emerald without the under water Materia with level 60s charactersIt also turns the Final battles with Jenova & Sephiroth into a joke.
The funny thing about Pandemonium Warden and moreso Absolute Virtue is that people did figure out how to beat them early on, but particularly with AV, every time some group found a viable strategy, Square would either nerf the method or buff the boss in some way.
The infamous walls strat is basically dragging it far to the north where there's a cliff/mountain. Originally if you had a group of mages come in from a teleport crag entrance to that zone, they could stand on the other side, and nuke Absolute Virtue with no repercussions until it died. So Square changed the game so that if you try to move Absolute Virtue from its starting location's land, it would despawn.
Later on, some linkshell got together enough Dark Knights with the infamous Kraken Club. With fully geared DRKs, the best haste gear, the best DPS gear, and a full compliment of Bard and Corsair buffs, using Souleater Blood Weapon zerg method, Absolute Virtue could be killed. So Square change the game and made Absolute Virtue immune to Souleater's damage, and this also changed Souleater's damage to a specific type of damage within the data. They only did it after the Pandy Warden induced nerfs, where they removed 1/3rd of its total HP, because when they did that, the Souleater method took far less prep/gear/KCs.
Pandemonium Warden at the 75 cap could be beaten, but the strategy for fighting it is incredibly obtuse. Basically, every 25% of its HP it would change form and perform Astral Flow, and this would pretty much guarantee wiping your alliance. So you needed a 6 man party that was separate, waiting in the wings. Whenever the HP % was coming up, what needed to happen was 16~17 of the 18 main alliance members needed to logout. Then, when the Astral Flow happened, and the remaining players were annihilated, the party waiting would pick Pandemonium Warden up, to keep his HP from regenerating and keep him from despawning. Obviously this takes a massive amount of coordination, and the load times/other issues with logging in and out repeatedly really bloated the fight time. Beyond that you could have Blue Mages "zombie" it by raising them, having them cast Cannonball from its maximum distance, farther than most spells, have them try to kite it, and wittle it down slowly while the parties recovered.
Both Absolute Virtue and Pandemonium Warden were bosses that the lead devs put into the game with the intention of them being an unattainable goal to always strive to beat, to try and make sure high end players always stayed hooked to the game. Since players were actually figuring out how to beat Absolute Virtue, and the devs knew that deep down their challenge had been surpassed for real, they created Pandemonium Warden.
I got to kill both after the level cap raise. New abilities and new power obtained from being higher than level 75 made them into jokes for any prepared group. The funniest thing was sometime in 2007~2009 years, SE released a hint video trying to show people things they already knew about Absolute Virtue. Like, Baraera is useful because one of his strongest spells is Aeroga IV, and hey, you can lock his 2HRs if you use yours right after he does. What was hilarious is that some of the more dedicated people did digging... or SE admitted years later that in the hint video where they show themselves killing AV, they actually had to turn on God Mode because they themselves weren't skill nor geared enough to kill it naturally.
I heard about that regarding AV; it was pretty much there for the devs enjoyment and watching players struggle to kill something that could not be killed. Then the wall of justice strategy happened, and they got all salty. Kinda evil they did that.
For the judge magisters,I used a combination of Ultima, bubble, and a spamming of the balance spell by the summon. Just had to keep it alive but low on health for its summon duration to crank out the damage. 5 digit aoe damage baby
Last time I did emerald weapon I decided to not use underwater materia. I ended the fight with 9 seconds left, no more final attack charges and 2 of the team down. Finished with an omnislash and it was absolutely epic.
It's so frustrating having the different versions of the games. I played the crap out of FFX-2 back in the day, and would have loved to have had the challenge. I don't know that I want to put in the hundreds of hours again though...
well, it's probably available for cheap physically on modern consoles.
kinda feel the same about FFX, more specifically - nigh maxed stats, able to take out nemesis with one aeon sacrifice, there's nothing left to challenge you.
until int. version has dark aeons which almost need you to make new armor for each one.
@@leeman27534The cost of the game is negligable, but I don't have hundreds of hours nowadays to dump into a game. I mean I had 200+ Hours easily in FFX-2 back in the day, I don't have the time to get there again.
Get it on PC there are a bunch of really useful mods so you can skip the grinding needed to fight the super bosses
I understand how you feel. Putting in hundreds of hours into a single game isn't as viable as it was in the past. Still, it's possible to significantly reduce playtime, but still complete the game. For X-2, the biggest challenge in completing the game within a reasonable timeframe is getting 100% in the first playthrough. Most of the game isn't terribly hard, but mainly missing stuff, which can be fixed by using a guide.
Back in the day, I beat the Weapons. I beat Ozma. I beat whatever the ones in 8 and 6 are. Nowadays, as a crotchety 36 year old, I just don't have the patience any more.
Me: Reads the title
Also Me: Immeadiate Emerald Weapon flashbacks
Ikr😂
Judge Magisters took me many days and time to figure out best way to defeat them.
Well this is great to see more in depth about the superbosses..or well more of them. But I'm curious on the Pandemonium Warden. I heard it took on many forms before you can finally beat it..and it took so long cause it had up to 20. What were those forms? If anyone can help with that.
Never knew that Emerald Weapon's instant-kill attack was actually based on Materia equipped, I thought it was just a cheap ass RNG party KO
Mannnnn I miss superbosses... and by "miss" I don't mean to imply that they're gone or anything (since plenty of RPGs still have em), but rather, I miss actually trying to beat them. As I've grown up and school and my career has taken more and more of my time, I've found it tricky to engage in most game's difficult endgame/post-endgame content.
Over the years, I've built up a rather sizeable backlog of games I would like to play... and I can't move on to a new game if I'm on hour 10 of trying to beat X or Y superboss in Z game. Of course... this varies. Not all superbosses are created equal, after all. Some of em might take long, some of em might not. The ones I miss tackling are the ones that'd take me *hours* to defeat... be it by grinding, smart use of tactics, or both.
This doesn't only apply to superbosses, to be honest. I feel that nowadays, I have very little time for some of the other challenges or extra things RPGs offer once you've beaten the story. Nowadays, I beat the main story and move on... It might be a tad sentimental of me to say, but I do kinda miss my younger days when I was able to essentially hyperfocus on 100%ing a game simply because I had the time and lacked the money for getting MORE games haha.
kinda similar - back in the day i used to do challenge runs a lot - i only had maybe 10 games i'd replayed for years.
nowadays i don't do those challenges anymore (unless i really want to), becase i'm busy - still a POS with fuck all going for me, i've just got far more games to play to spend that much time and at this point, annoyance, on one game.
leeman27534 definitely feel some nostalgia towards those days. Would often play and replay the game so much I actually felt like I KNEW it inside out. Still play em nowadays, of course, but not with that level of depth.
@@JJMomoida for me, kinda give and take. i seemed to enjoy games more, but i suffered from my depression a lot more, too - now i'm sorta zen like with my depression and it's not as big a deal, but i also enjoy games less, as well.
plus, these days, i've got a lot more games, too. not replaying FFX for like the 20th time just for something to do.
actally, i still will, on occasion, just, i've got a bunch of others, too.
With regards the Emerald Weapon there is the Overflow glitch and the Mime, Counter Omnislash trick.
The massive problem we face with Chaos Aeronite is not its HP, it's Regen. Not because Regen heals Aeronite, but because of the status itself. Without Chaos, Lightning or an ennemy can have maximum 5 debuffs and buffs. But some buffs and debuffs can't be remove (in most cases, debuffs that came from a stagger and Regen from Chaos). The first three times we stagger Aeronite, he will add to itself a debuff that will last until the end of the fight. This three debuffs allow you to put only 2 debuffs on Aeronite for damage (Deprotect and Imperil). But if you fight Aeronite in Chaos, he will have 4 buffs/debuffs on it, so you only have 1 possible debuffs instead of 2. That's why this fight is much harder.
Judge fight, you got about 12-15 seconds to take control of the fight at the start, or the judges will just destroy you
I was an avid FF11 player and encountered Absolute Virtue (AV) as well as Pandemonium Warden (PW) in their unnerfed states.
Absolute Virtue was killed a few times originally but only through the abuse of the "Wall of Justice". Which was putting Black Mages into a whole other space of the area that only had a thin impassable wall to the area you fought AV in. This would bug out AV and allowed people to kill it. Later AV was patched and a "draw in" effect added that would pull all attackers to it when out of reach. To this day the community still does not 100% understand how AV was originally intended to kill. AV went into "Bracelet Mode" at around 60% where it would just spam AoE Meteors and wipe everyone. Additionally you could not even outendure it as one of it's moved could be the White Mage "Benediction" that would heal it back to full HP.
Pandemonium Warden had a fun story when it came out. There was a "???" deep in the ruins to trade your key to. But also a "???" right infront of the town. The first group that got a key traded it to the "???" infront of the town. A Goblin spawned and died in 1 hit. Apparently this "???" was a renmant of the devbuild that SE forgot to take out. While the group eventually got their Key back from a Gamemaster the situation was more than absurd.
The original Pandemonium Warden had many many more phases than the one we have today. Including all the different beat tribes of the expansion and the 5 Generals of the city. The group fighting 18 hours went through ALL of these phases to finally meet the real PW. They got it down to 75% where it instantly cast Astral Flow summoning multiple Avatars and exploded the whole room.
The highest HP enemy in the Franchise is actually Eden Promise Savage in FFXIV with nearly 64 million HP.
There's a boss in 5.5 that's going to have 440 million XP.
Nope, it's the Shadow King in the same tier (E10S) with 74 million HP. Granted however that it's mechanically easier than Eden's Promise.
Doesn't matter much when every encounter is ~10min regardless of HP
I just want to say I Did beat the Judges their first time,
But that's because I was already max lvl and knew how effective the bubbled Zeromus is using big bang.
I remember fighting Emeral weapon once. I was doing the Doublecast Knights of The Round + mimic strat. Fast forward to the end of the fight, my last attack did enough damage to kill Emerald only for my party to drown and game over instead of doing the victory animation:( SInce then I've always used the Underwater materia.
I didn't realize it was even possible to prolong that fight for 20 minutes.
@@WhiteSupreme Yeah it's just the fact that KOTR takes so long when double summoned:)
@@Shadowultd I guess that makes sense. I always use lots of quad cuts and such for quick fights. Except Ruby where I stun lock him.
I beat it on the first, second and third attempt, if you have a magic counter and lv1 heal linked(must be lv1), mime and Omnislash, only Cloud on the ground like the fight with Ruby weapon, the fight will be just a cakewalk, just mimic Omnislash and win
Great stuff!!!! Let’s add Culex!
I have beaten Emerald, Iron Giant, and The Judges. The Judges are still (in my opinion) my greatest FF accomplishment. I was dead tired and it was the middle of the night when I beat Trial 99. I decided to try 100 and beat it 1st try after over 2 hours of micromanaging everything and almost losing every 5 minutes. No other battle in any game has made me focus that hard for that long.
hit me up if you would like the story of the first Pandamonium warden to kill ^^ and more details of the competition for that world first. The regional fight we did was supposed to take 36 hrs and my LS had EU NA and JP players rotate 8 hr shifts.
Aire Tam from Emerald is material backwards.
I played Final Fantasy 7 when it first came out in Europe. I learned this fact this week. Nice to be 20+ years behind most other people!
I beat Emerald Weapon but never beat Ruby weapon back in the day. I have also beaten Minerva. Super hard boses is what makes the game more interesting
Beat all three of one my proudest gaming achievements
Beating the Judge fight in Zodiac Age is what I consider my single greatest FF achievement, mostly because there's no way to 'cheat' games on newer consoles. Its all you.
You technically can. You can exploit the trial mode to get everyone ultimate weapons, armor,etc before fighting them. Even with that, you still need a strategy.
@@Dragonkaiser20 actually, that was intended... along with the 2 jobs thing. people complained that the game would be "too hard" so the devs bent over and "dumbed down" the zodiac age version.
what's not intended is RNG manipulation to get that seitengrat guaranteed from the one chest. people still found a way to get the bonafide best weapon in the game without dealing with that 1/10000 chance of obtaining it.
11:49 i like how he says divine slayer will boost most of Zack's stats, when the video shows 4 stats being lowered by it.
"I beat all those on the first go."
~ No One, Ever
Hooray, you understood the title of the video! Congratulations!!
@@SPFLDAngler appreciate it 👍
pfft, i own a game shark, i beat them all first go (don't ask how that applies to ffxi......)
@@Bjorick 😂 ahhh, the days of Gameshark...
If it was in another video I apologise as I haven't watched them all yet but Ozma from ff9 should be on here.
Even the guide book made you visit a website at the time
Wow. I actually beat Minerva way back when I was a freshman in high school. I remember needing to have 255 spirit and vitality just so you wouldn't get 1 shot right off the get go.
Costly Punch for a straight hour will knock her down yes sir.
7. Dark yojimbo (I struggled with that for ages more than all else in ffx and I kept missing one of them)
6. Emerald weapon
5. Judges
4. Ff5 shinryu/omega
3. Ff4 proto babil on ds
2. Ff8 omega
1. Ozma
All bosses have certain ways to easily kill but those are the 7 I struggled with more than any other.
Damn, I found the FFVIII Omega Weapon the easiest. Meltdown, Aura on Squall, and Hero or Hero War to bypass Terra Break and spam Renzokuken and megalixirs until it drops dead. This requires some rare cards though.
Finally someone mentioned the Dark Aeons!!!!
FF8 Omega ?? Just use "THE END" with Selphie. You can Zanmato dark Yojimbo every fight with a well trained Yojimbo.
Yojimbo broke FFX. If u always summon him for Zanmato the game is a walk in the sunny park !! (few monsters have more stages,
like Yunalesca etc.. sure 1 Zanmato wont help you there, you would need 3 Zanmatos, lol)
The dark aeons in FFX followed finally by Penance, that thing is probably the most ridiculous.
Ruby weapon, spamming KOTR+auto heal materias is key, emerald can be similar but you really need that armour stolen from Reno at the rocket (I think) as it halves all damage
Penance is the only superboss I have come across that I haven't defeated I just straight up gave up and believe me I have beaten a lot of them
There’s a cheese strat for Almighty Shinra involving Anything Eater. It requires a very specific set up, but it basically stun locks him with lightning fast guaranteed critical hits so he never gets to fire off a single attack. As long as all the pieces are present, it is foolproof
Judge Magisters fight sounds similar to the Ark Angels in Final Fantasy 11
I was wondering when my Ultimate Foe Aeronite would be on the list. I still haven't beat the regular version, let alone Choas version. Just so damn hard.