NEW Land Rover Defender 90 V8 Review: Why This Car Makes NO Sense | 4K
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- Rory reviews the new V8-powered Land Rover Defender 90 to see what it's for, who it's for or if it should even exist.
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There's absolutely no reason whatsoever to pick this version of the Defender. It's also the one I'd have
lmao this is spot on
the 90 is cool af
Amen!
Couldnt have said it any better
Except the price. That is the deal breaker unless you have more money than sense.
@@Jordan-ql8pv a senseless price for a senseless car. Quite fitting
It makes sense to me. It's literally built for someone who loves to drive a G-wagon, but knows how silly you look in a G.
Yeah if you'd rather look like a farmer than a russian mobster lol........AMG sounds and looks better imo, but its all subjective
You’ll look even more silly driving around a ballooned up Kia Soul that you payed 100k plus for 😂
@@KITTKATTCHONKY The Kia would be more reliable.
@@rtorbs
This comment aged badly... really quickly.
@@rich7447
Good joke!
The rear seats are only meant to be used when…you absolutely must! It’s essentially a two seater coupe.
Exactly, I brought this up to someone, I don't need a lot of trunk space either , it's just me, so it'll be rare that I have anyone in the back
Think of it as a Corvette that can carry a HUGE amount of stuff, then it makes perfect sense. 🙂
Not so sure about the huge amount of stuff part. With most Corvette owners, most won't really push the car too hard because of speed traps and heavy traffic in many places. The same goes for most Land/Range Rover owners who never really use their vehicles off-road. They are "mall runners". The only thing people "carry" in them really is a credit card. Those vehicles are "more show than go" as just status symbols. For example, how many bicycle racks or tow hitches do you see on the back of them? Exactly.
I have a 15-year-old Nissan Pathfinder that I use off-road sometimes, and sometimes I place as many as four bicycles at the back of it connected to the tow hitch. The only thing I haven't connected to it yet is a big speed boat not because my truck can't handle it but more like I can't afford it. Any way, much cheaper to rent a Scarab for a day or two than to own one.
You can't fit shit in the 90
@@rowanrobinson
If you think of it as a two-seater with emergency backseat - it’s a lot of space
@@heidelbergaren5054 We've got a 2015 Defender 90 and they are tiny. The back seats take up most of the back and you can't remove them. The new Defender might have a bit more room, but they're not really for carrying stuff. Saying that, I'd bloody love to have a new V8
More like a Hellcat. The Corvette is a proper sports car now, whereas this isn't gonna take a corner too well.
2 words to describe why this car exists, stealth wealth.
Nothing stealth about it, look at the fucking thing.
@@jody024 it doesn't have the stereotypical bling rims or chrome on every corner. It doesn't seem that long ago that black badges, bumpers and wheels were the sign of a basic spec motor though!
@@RikAindow doesn’t have bling rims? Blacked out 22 inches - subtle much?
@@Watchlover371 more subtle than the silver ones it coulda come with. Black is basic IMO.
@@RikAindow black rims are not more subtle than normal alloys.
I just love Rory...
This guy gives such a satisfying review in his own way of delivering the speech and the way he presents, it really connect us to the video...
And that's exactly how it should work...
Great job Rory...👍🏼
Keep it up bro..💯
And to the team ❤️💥
Rory is the best Reviewer no Doubt !
I’d rather have this than a G class
People looking for a big boot and easy access rear seating won’t be looking at compact three door 4x4s. It’s like saying the five door version is ‘too long’.
@@noobracers3931 Without front and rear diff lockers it is really only a 2wd (one front wheel, one rear). "Proper" 4x4s have diff lockers, not some electronic system applying brakes to simulate a locker.
@@noobracers3931 Off road testing by TFL has not been kind to the Defender. LR definitely targeted this vehicle towards those who will never take it further off road than a dirt track. Lots of power in this little thing though. For less money I would go with the Rubicon 392.
@@noobracers3931 'm not really sure why LR has the image it has given it is one of the few brands that is less reliable than Jeep.
@@rich7447 hopefully we can get some ARB Air Lockers in these? For 2022, that setup would be a dream come true for an offroader
@@rich7447
As soon as you used TFL as your information source you lost all credibility.
TFL unplugging things to create faults on their Defender... masterful.
As for Jeep? Ask Ashton Wood in Australia about Jeeps. Better still look for the video on here via his name and his junk jeep. I'd happily wager no LR owner got to the point of wanting to do that to their vehicle, myself included.
Rory filled the void that old topgear left in my heart 💜
Have you tried Harry's Garage? I love that channel.
RR was the best thing about his era of top gear.
The exhaust pipe section hanging out the back of it looks like it got rear ended and a bit fell off and the owner couldn't be bothered to have it repaired.
It’s purposely designed that way so that the vehicle still has an excellent departure angle…
Looks like proparts tat.
@@capnskiddies
Like a what now?
Hoops, I think your glasses are steamed up again.
@@skylined5534 At least I have glasses, unlike the designer of that Defender. It kinda has Morris Marina/British build quality finish to it, not good!
Just subscribed to AutoTrader channel. One reason... Rory! Keep up the great job mate :)
No nonsense review, love it. If this turned into a series, it would be a great one.
The 110 and the v8 my spec!
Love it. Love the subtlety. Everyone else will think you are driving around in a Defender, but those who know will know. What better way to show off your wealth without drawing too much attention to yourself. Not everyone wants to be in a big Porsche or Mercedes. Also, look at the C6 RS6, the B4 RS5, or the W204 C63, subtle and timeless but absolutely incredible power and all becoming increasingly popular and desirable.
What is subtle about this defender? Get a land cruiser, that is subtle
@@511dydy I agree with James. This defender doesnt catch the eye right away like a Porsche or Mercedes does in my opinion, because its "just a Defender" for the normal guy.
@Ariaditya Pramestu
Land cruisers suck. A new Defender would nail a land cruiser to the wall.
@@skylined5534 you win the silliest comment on the internet for today. Take both into the middle of Australia and see which comes out .
@@ruddthreetrees1104
I'll happily tow your Toymota out when it gets stuck.
I don't car how well it handles in the corners, I just want one. Certainly one for my ever growing lottery win garage
Why 🤮🤮🤮🤮 total garbage. Get a track hawk for less.
@@luisamoa2500
And spend lifetime getting your shitehawk towed 😂
@@luisamoa2500 says get a track hawk over a defender 🙄
Evoque Convertibile didn't make sense either , but everyone wanted one :)
Lovely car but looks best in silver with black seats or bronze with tan. The only real problem with the overall package is the rear seats. If they could be replaced with a flat load area it would be far more practical. Especially useful and fun for taking dogs for a walk.
This is a 2 person vehicle with some back seats for "in case". I love this thing.
Edit: Absolute Stealth Wealth!
Exactly, same as the old 90
LOL! A Land Cruiser is stealth wealth. It is understated, and unless you know what you are looking at, looks like just another Toyota SUV. This thing simply shouts “look at me!”
The actual stealth wealth version is the commercial one
Expensive, capable and tax deductible
And for sure you also have another car for spirited driving
@@croaker4747
Land Cruiser... overrated junk 😂
What you forget is that the rear seats are accessed by climbing over the front seats. No need to move them forward, your kids will find their way in without any assistance!
It's great to see Rory doing what he does best. Sensible reviews with his own twist. He was part of what made topgear good.
What's all this 0 to 62 mph crap, lose the Euro bullshit, it's 0 to 60 mph!!!!
I wish, Rory and Mat Watson to replace Flintoff and McGuiness. I can't understand what they are talking, such a peasant British accent from both of them.
He's bloody good!
Like slagging off a three door short wheelbase vehicle for being too short and not having enough doors when there's a 110, 5 door version?
@@jimgoodwin6294 yes, the 110 is too big for a lot of places in the UK. The 90 should be more space efficient for the size. The 110 is big even for over here in NYC.
Not sure if Rory mentioned if it rocks on its springs as a torque reaction when you rev in neutral. Just one more reason why you would.
Anyone spending more than about 20k on a car is not buying it for practical reasons they are buying a toy. Hence makes complete sense. Seriously anyone, any lifestyle any sector in terms of a practical car 20k is pretty much guaranteed to cover any needs. Happy to be challenged on that. Please don't say supercar as a sector, but happy for you to say sports car, limo, family, long distance, etc etc
I've been looking for a car for that but can't find. Can you recommend anything decent spacious and comfortable for 20k
@@osamafarooq1669 Hi Osama, first try, did a very quick search - Merc 250 cdi AMG estate 2014.
Very reliable and we'll built model year
0-60 less than 8 seconds
Approaches 50 mpg if driven gently. Easy 40 mpg.
Big, quality, comfy.
38k on it.
On a well known car site.
@@benmarr352 I meant not second hands car
@@benmarr352 thanks anyway bro
@@osamafarooq1669 Hi Osama, sorry couldn't help. Have a think about used. They cost way, way less and give you way, way more. I am a car nut and just couldn't force myself to buy new.
I know it makes absolutely no sense. And that it is around £20000 too much.
But surely, man that is cool. Such a cool car
£20000 is a great car, it is actually around £100,000
@@farmingnerd1542 i’ve seen several of them cost nearly 200k (not the bond edition).
Very impractical for the people who would never truly consider it , very practical for the bachelor’s of the world who will actually buy it 🤷🏽♂️
Buy the 110
A cabriolet version would suit this size and engine to perfection.
It would look great on a poster, but I don’t think I’d buy one. I’d want it, but I wouldn’t have it
A fucking cabriolet? As if this hideous abomination isn't already blasphemous enough toward the original Defender name?
Remember when many folks thought the G55 AMG made no sense back in the late 90's. I'm not saying this is the same, but you get my point of reference. The vehicles that make the least amount of sense are usually the ones everyone wants (including myself).
I don't know every stat about the G55, but I'm confident that it's practicallity was at least a *bit* better than a Ford Fiesta. 😒
There is no reason to ever pick this version of the 90 but its absolutely the one i would buy if i could get one
The automotive world has always been brighter, happier, and more fun when its landscape was dotted with, for want of another term, "weirdos", vehicles that may not make any sense on paper or in practice, but they are always a hoot to experience, inside and out, and there are usually enough people to buy them to make making them make some sense.
Brilliant review, the subtlety is one of the reasons I ordered one. Yes people won’t know how much it was but that’s brilliant. If you know you know!
Love the look of it! Love the interior and exterior and especially that Jaguar Land Rover V8😍😍😍
Think the 90 looks amazing, much better looking than the 110, but i wouldn't bother paying the extra for the v8 version!
I like the entry 90 hardtop but land rover doesn't even show the price unless you enquire! Apart from the fact its huge it doesn't do anything better than a jimny really.
@@chrishart8548
Have you run them back to back to shore up your opinion?
@@skylined5534 they will both have pros and cons I don't really need to know the answer.
I wouldn’t have the 90. The 110 no question!!
I would say to each their own, I really do prefer the 90, just hop on in with minimal necessities and just drive on into the woods and find solitude alone
90 for me
id take a 90
3:11 You can skip the holding if you press one of the memory buttons.
This makes sense for a wealthy young bachelor that wants to show off.
The new Defender has the perfect balance between a road usable SUV and a hardcore offroader. The new V8 trim is just a small (525 bhp) icing on the cake.
Talking of balance. I always look at the 90 and think it's gonna topple over backwards.
@@pigeonpoo1823 Not on this one with the big heavy 5.0 V8 up front to counter balance 😂
@@pigeonpoo1823
That's because there's something wrong with your funny little eyes, Mr Pigeon.
@@stevenmiller4942 it's actually quite a light V8. It's lighter than the six cylinder diesel or the hybrid. It's the same motor that's in the F Type R and that's not a heavy car.
I think this vehicle is a perfect balance for people to much money and don’t have a clue what they’re buying this vehicle is a joke how can you go over landing every time you want to get something you have to either open up the rear hatch or press the button get real you don’t know anything about overlanding I love my 2005 pathfinder because of the versatility it has to add those of the bulk what you’re talking about before you open your yap
3:57 7.4 mpg UK is 2.4 km/L...... Nice car to look at, but at €2/L I'd rather use my bicycle
I can't think of one reason why someone would buy this car. However, I'm quite sure I'll see dozens of them driving round London.
Land Rover is
trying to tell you we have a G class as well. AND THEY DO!
This car is clearly nothing more than a vanity project - built to have million inch kahn alloys bolted on and gold chains draped from the head lining. Sort of "let's take the Defender for a drive past Harrods to prove how much money we have" type deal.
Spot on.
What’s wrong with vanity projects?
If the wealthy didn’t have their cars then it would never trickle down to us commoners though.
90% of the cars featured nobody can really afford. If they can most of the time they don’t have a family or still live at home. The only car I realistically can afford and would want is a 2000 Nissan micra 1.4 with a turbo and sleeper mods. Or maybe an octavia estate with a re map.
@@TheYBGOON you’re reasoning stands for vehicle such as the s-class but not this land-rover with a v8 dropped in
@@alexclipper7608 You need to lookup the word “vanity”.
I like the softer Land Rover defenders, particularly when it comes to wheels, it suits a high tyre wall steel wheel better than big skinny alloys. no problem with the V8 but would have to go for entry engine to get my choice of wheels.
I noticed this, too. I tried seeing if I could fit 19" wheels on the V8, but that's not even an option. I suspect it has larger brake discs, limiting how small you can go on wheel size. The smallest I could find for it are 20" wheels.
Words I never thought i'd ever hear Land Rover and brilliant engine 🤣
The 110 with this engine would be the one to have for me.
It doesn't make any sense as a Land Rover Defender. When you start to look at it as an alternative to the Bowler Wildcat it makes a lot of sense.
This could as well be a future classic. Huge power in a relatively small truck.
Lots of better choices out there.
@@bzdtemp can’t think of anything except for Wrangler 392, which is more of an ATV than a car, so not really
@@alexclipper7608 My personal choice would be the Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT, but it is larger and having four doors and boot space is maybe making it to practical although the crazy performance is still there. Same thing with the Porsche Cayenne Turbo S and the Mercedes G-Wagon 63.
Then there is the Porsche Macan GTS, smaller than the Jeep although still four door, itdoes the 0-60 like the Defender only it drives better. And there is the Bowler Nemesis which I suppose is more race car than SUV really.
@@bzdtemp Cherokee, Cayenne and so on are exactly SUVs. Not off-road trucks. Don’t know how the G-wag flew over my head, but yeah, it’s the only thing comparable. And the Bowler is a coach-built race car, that’s another dimension.
About the four doors - once again, the Def V8 is available in 110.
Your ending notes... That's exactly what I was thinking throughout the video. I hoped you'd end it like you did and you did not disappoint.
Let's face it. Almost all top trim, top spec, "practical" SUVs "make no sense". At least this model embraces the fact that it's over the top. Because goddam it, you may not need to put a huge V8 into a small Wrangler-like SUV, but if you can, you do it. BECAUSE ITS FUN!
That laggy touch screen at 3:53 kills me, how can it be that bad when you're splashing that much cash down on a brand new car.
SWB Defender was never meant to have rear seats - it just doesn't work if you want any boot space.
Really love how you’re honest and say it how it is , no sucking up to these big brands!!
Top review mate! Got a P400 xs on order. Can't wait
2:46 Why can't it just be manually slid forward???? It's daibolical!!!
Bro!!! That seat would drive me nuts
Regardless of it's practically, it's got a growling V8 instead of a washing machine motor, nice to see a real vehicle being tested for once
Well if it makes absolutely no sense it's the perfect car, I want one.
Superb review! I appreciate your comments on the V8 Defender 90's pros and cons. All too often reviewers state their testimony as if they're advertising copy writers for the company whose car or SUV they're testing. I trust your review. It is excellent. I'm looking forward to driving the new Defender with and without V8 power. So thank you very much for a job extremely well done! Andy McKane, Maunaloa, Hawaii.
I want a Skoda Yeti with a 2.5 litre 5 cylinder engine xD
I honestly don't get why moving the seats back and and front for passengers going to the back seats are electric in modern days.....i find it irritatingly slow, especially in the BMW x7 that I had a few months ago,such need to be manual and fast.
Totally agree. In such a case less is more. Can it be moved manually if you wish to? Like the power trunk on my XJ can be pushed down by hand or you push the button; either way is fine.
Yep. Imagine hobbling around in the rain while the seats slowly slide forwards to give you access.
3:51 nice smooth ui action on a £100k car
Go check out videos of the new S-Class’s screen operation. It’s just the way she goes these days.
You don’t buy a V8 90 for practicality, you buy it because it’s really cool and explains why URBAN cannot get enough of them…
Rory's reviews have uplifting attitude & swag! 👌🔥🔥🔥
You mean, the exaggerated swagger?
I'd love this in full farmer spec, dull green paint, white roof, steel wheels and moss.
Yeah but the point of the V8 defender is to bring back the heritage of the brand Land Rover has offered their customers a V8 model it’s nostalgic. Unlike Ford with the bronco which offered a V8 you can’t get that anymore. To me it’s about having the open to go all out. The sound that in itself is enough. V8 are going away it’s nice to have the option.
Modern three door vehicles aren't meant to be a family haulers. The rear seats in this are more for 'emergencies' and should be considered part of the luggage compartment. Whether that price is appropriate for a glorified two seater is another question, but Land Rover obviously thinks there is a market.
Im not paying over $100K to fold the seat back. And you can't put the window down 🤦. No body stability, so if I turn the corner and strong wind blows what happens 🤦. Thank you for this review.
That last statement before going off screen… that’s why most of us are here! Magic Rory. Magic!
My opinion: I think we will be seeing a lot more of these typenof cars going to market. My reasoning is as follows:
Electric cars are awesome, no doubt about it, however, the sound, mechanics and cogs working together in a ICE car, well, a electric car cannot do that.
As ICE cars are on its way out in the not so far future, I think manufacturers are going out with a bang with their V8 and other big engines. Cars are meant to put a smile on your face even if you go to the shop. If a Daewoo Matiz does that for you, great, if a V8 does it for you, great.
I think lets get the last of the "crazy" no sense cars and have fun with them while we can and before it ends.
great review, but why are the interior hand held shots at a higher frame rate than everything else? it's a bit jarring.
So a stock Defender has more power than the 2022 range rover V8 🤔
1:17 got me dying on the floor🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Such a shame they only gave it three dull colors and zero interior choices. The regular lineup has magnificent color options, flashy, yet classy. This flashiness would really fit the V8.
Otherwise, awesome vehicle.
There is still option to put the wrap on it...those who have money for car, will also a grand or two for wrap.
@@martinv.178 do wraps look as good as paint? Do they damage original paint?
@@alexclipper7608 If you choose right company and right color, nobody will see the difference and if it will be correctly applied, it will not damage the paint at all, it will actually protect it
Great video!! I think the practicality is not there compared to today's SUVs but I think it will become iconic with time just like other 3 door SUVs.
Land rover insist that it is NOT an SUV but a 4x4 all terrain vehicle
Would you call the older previous defender an SUV?
I’d take thIs SUV over any other, this one is truly special
Remove the rear seats and put some off road goodies on it and it'd be solid (minus the price tag)
Unbelievable fast. It's depreciation will be unbelievable fast.
I ❤ it . I am single and would definitely buy one. Legendary Landover defender off capabilities are unmatched. Retro design,tech,V8 supercharged power
It's definitely not a family car. There's alot of alternatives for that money. JLR have overpriced things in the last few years.
This guy the definition of I want to be a single bachelor but I want a part time family also hahaha
I prefer the Cupra Formentor just as quick 420 litre boot and 40 grand for the VZ2 310 ps much cheaper you won't spend most of your time in the petrol station, my choice all day everyday.
I’d opt for the straight 6 hybrid which is almost as quick to 60 and may have better f/r balance. Costs a bit less as well.
How's it now?
My old defender 90 is definitely more practical than this. Bench seat in the back is easy to get into using the back door and it still leaves a massive amount of space for luggage.
The limited number of colors or lack of differentiation does not matter one bit because those who buy this will also not bat an eyelid at spending another 50k to customise it throughout. Yes, they will even need to patch up that rust along the bottom at 6:49
I’m not a camera guy but the camera showing the interior views is crazy.
Land Rover are copying the custom works that SWB owners have done for years. Saying that it makes no sense is missing the point - driving one is to be enjoyed. Unsure about the rear seating and electronic forward seat movement, emergency escape? But nothing that coding can't fix.
As the former owner of a 1971 Series IIA 88" I remember when a Land Rover was a Land Rover. This 90" simply is not. Too bad Rover Company shuttered years ago and all that remains is the badging. If I wanted a Range Rover, I'd probably look at something by another company. Sure, this 90 looks cool(ish), but if you want aesthetics rather than a real Land Rover, knock yourself out. For me, I'd rather have my Series Rover back than get something that raises my blood pressure every time I even think about parking lot dings and road tar.
Thanks for a really fantastic review! Very well done. I like the honest criticism PLUS the infectious appreciation of the V8 90" - it is a looker. Cheers!
Would be interesting to see how it compares to the New Ford Bronco.
Lightyears ahead in every way, except for off-roading, where they are kinda head-to-head.
Thank you, great review.
As some one who has never come in contact with a land rover. Could anyone tell me how reliable are these rovers? I mean assuming you are meticulous enough to do all the maintenance work on it. Used Rovers are abundant just throwing this out there as I plan to buy one soon.
Defenders are very reliable, they fixed all the previous electronic bugs with a software update
You won't have any problems with regular maintenance, especially the newer models
The back seat situation is obviously bad! Then again, how many family guys are going to buy this to serve as their family car? That would a stupid decision.
3:00 imagine waiting for the seat to move so you can get in the back............ when it's PISSING down. LOLZ
Looking forward to Rory's next genius report on why the G65 might also be unnecessary.
Here in the US the v8 Defender is over $30k more than the Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 392. The Jeep is quicker and comes standard with mechanical diff lockers.
Totally agree. £100,000 is triple the price of its rivals such as a Toyota Hilux, no body on frame so difficult to customise, massive wheels which would need upgrading to 17/18inch wheels, road tyres which need to come off immediately, 5.0L v8 wont get anywhere near 40mpg which is expected these days in most cars. It would cost about £300 a week in fuel haha. Why does an offroader need to do 0-60 in 4 seconds? I dont think ive ever floored mine
If the 90’s too small and you need 5 doors just buy a 110 it’s not difficult.. have you seen the price of a Mercedes-Benz G Wagon???
A V8 in a D90, what more could one want? 😎
Not sure the seats were opened correctly, don't the just fold forward with the latch? Bit like an M4, you can slide it with motors or just latch and fold the seat. May I just add. GREAT REVIEW!
Yes you can slide the front seats forward by pulling the latch, but why would you use the drivers side, could be a bit dangerous, makes sense to use the nearside more safely.
Some Americans who said land cruiser is ancient, expensive and boring, in order to reject it, this is something they can buy. Trust me some of those will have this and it will be in their garage often.
Can we please get this truck in the US already?
Quite agree Rory, had one for 2 weeks, totally impractical, you forgot to mention the 9cm lip behind the rear seats that don't actually fold flat. Add the 5ltr to a 110 then that's another ballgame!
Back seat can be removed to make it flat
Excellent review with a twist! So would you buy it? I like it but it is expensive. I would look at the lower model as a consideration, I do not need that much horsepower. What about the cost of maintenance and reliability on these vehicles? Thanks
5:09 why did these close up shots suddenly jump up fps? I don't like how "smooth" those shots look, I prefer the 30 fps or whatever most of the video is in
Edit: Flappy paddles are essential! I have them in my '18 hyundai elantra sport and I use manual mode most of the time, even in city traffic lol
LR is also excellent off road, hence why it rolls more.
So basically Rory, there’s better SUVs available at that price point. Gotcha. 😆
It’s all fun and games until one of those little 20” tires go pop on small rock. They come standard. Make sure you have a recovery plan if you off road with this.