The Irish in the American Civil War- Paddy's Lamentation
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- Опубліковано 12 сер 2007
- Many Irishmen fought on the Union side in the American Civil War. We kept it going. Some on the South side as well but not as many because most of the Irish immigrants went to Northern Cities. Paddy's Lamentation music video by me :D
I feel so connected to you Irish people even though I'm Polish living in America. We have been opressed as a nations for so many decades. Love to you Irish nation.
I have polish blood also and just like you, I support the Irish people. :)
Love and REPECT to All countrymen, nations, cultures, races, creeds and religions !
I think Polish girls are pretty 😍
Same with Korea. I guess countries who struggle with spheres of influence all have some sort of mutuality. I actually lived in Ireland for a while and proudly earned the title of "Second-born Irishman"
@@Nogu3 vwry astute comment
I was born and raised in Boston, MA, the neighborhood of Dorchester, swaddled in the arms of native born Irish. I once was a civil war re-enactor. I portrayed a civilian watching the war and it's affect on society. Powerful time in history.
Much respect to you ma'am.
And agreed..powerful time indeed.
I enjoy watching your posted videos on your google page.....your my kind of dude. Check out my Facebook.....Marguerite Higgins
in fact, they're 3 movies: "Gangs of New York", "Glory" and ''Cold mountain''. Greetings from Sweden :)
Hey Sweden I’m 70% Saxon You got to admit we kicked ass in the 30 years war Lolol
Also I’m watching cold mountain I’ve seen the other two but I’ve never seen that one thank you sweetie thank you for being Sweden
Us Paddys have fought in wars all around the world but we face our own now in a country that once was great but the government have us on our knees and this war will be Paddys greatest. For we are the risen people and we have had enough of austerity and poverty.....
Here Here!
Irish and Russians toughest ppl on earth
God bless my Irish ancestors
stay humble.... nice one hahaha thats beautifully put cant stop laughing
@@irish8856 STFU up you degenerate asshole.
Signed, a fellow Irishman.
ill never forget the man who sang this song to me at a pub in ireland when i went there for vacation…..its such a beautiful song and i could tell it meant alot to him...
I have met a lot of people from all over the world working in a Greek island in the summer.... Irish people was my favorite kind!! Respect for you guys greetings from Greece
So goes this story: At Lee's surrender, A confederate said to a union soldier "you won because due to the fact that you had more Irish on your side than we did."
Hmm yes.
Haha they had more people period
@@AbrahamLincoln4 Hey Abe!
@@johnasticot ey
The Irish were oppressed by England for centuries they saw a conflict and sided with the north because they themselves were slaves to the empire. Poor and forgotten left to starve
I'm greek/Serbian, well I find Ireland interesting and your music is awesome. 🙋🏻♂️ Greetings
Id be sad if i lived in the bloody balkans too, boyo
woosh ! Eat shyte boyo!
Mr. Stano are you Greek or Serbian? You cannot be both as you cannot be French and German...
@@Nupraptor4 my mom is greek and my father serbian. And I love ireland 😁
Yassou and zdravo! ☦️
In Paddy's lamentation, the soul of Ireland weeps, its melodies echoing the stories of a resilient spirit, forever bound to the land and its history.
Ireland, i salute you!
We serve neither King nor Kaiser but Ireland!!! With 150,000 Irish men fighting for the Union and then 50,000 for the confederates that's 200,000 Irish men that shouldn't have been fighting a American war but the war back home to remove the true oppressors.
Quite so lad there wouldn't be a protestant empire if they didn't starve the irish we could've helped the scottish fight back against Cromwell and the Aristocrats
Aye you're right, ironically a lot of those brave men were fighting to gain experience to fight back home
Every time I watch this video I feel obliged to drink some whisky in honor of those brave irish souls that fought to help build this great country of ours.
It's pretty sad how badly they were treated by some of the Northerners. Just last week in my first year hsitory lecture we covered 19th C migration and a huge part of that was Irish of course. They were treated so horribly sometimes, yet those who could were forced into Old Abe's army - much like my Great Great Grandfather.
What do they for the Irish these days???? We're still treated like filthy emigrants....
@@damiion666 by being sent to a slaughter without choice isnt paying you dues.. building cities and communities is.
Avlone3 “by being sent to a slaughter without choice isnt paying your dues”...wait what?? There was no draft, they were offered enlistment with pay and they signed on the dotted line. They weren’t the only ones that volunteered, so did african-americans, everyone joined the war effort. Get your facts straight. And yes they paid their dues this way...they helped win the war, became us citizens and prospered. Within less than a hundred years after the civil war, an irish catholic became president (jfk).
The alternative? Stay in the motherland and starve. They had a choice and made the right one.
@@damiion666 im not arguing the fact there was a draft buddy. I know they signed up to it im simply saying the way battles where fought back then was a slaughter. Just marching into certain death. On both sides and all races ordered to their slaughter. I know this was how wars where fought back then its just a shame it ever happened. And i agree with you on either starve or fight but you cannot deny that the english were driving the irish out of their homeland and most made the choice to leave for america and fight out of a last chance of survival for them and their families. Either that or stay home and be murdered and starved to death by the illegal occupancy of the english.
"All wars are civil wars because all men are brothers." - Francois Fenelon
Dickwad McButtnick how is that stupid?
So many young Irish lads was recruited off the docks of Boston's Water Front, They enlisted to fight for Union Army, not knowing rime or reason why. None shown more bravery than the men from Island Let them not be forgotten!
Made my comment above
dave Drolett No, none of them, "enlisted," they were all drafted. A secret thing the Lincoln administration did before they actually issued the national draft. This is what that song is about, the irish' immigrants anger at being thrust into a war they had no part in. Also, "None shown more bravery than the men from the island," *cough* Pickett's Charge *cough*
GuineaPigGamer your a fuckin moron... Why dont you read a fucking book or something before you spout your bull shit?
Matt Szurgot
Funny, because I learned this from the book. "The Politically Incorrect Guide to: The South." Why don't you educate yourself before you spout out your Northern Liberal Bullshit.
Matt Szurgot
Also. You're* Fuckin'* don't*
Some of the Irish brigades were the hardest fighting units in the war.....
Don't forget that the bulk of the Confederate Army was made up of the Scots Irish. No finer soldier on this planet.
@@onelonecelt9168 u mean ulster scots?
@@vortigen.9098 Ulster Scots and Scots Irish are one in the same.
@@onelonecelt9168 soldiers are soldiers. Nowt to do with where their from or what their fighting for. Everything to do with how their trained, equipped and supplied. Most of the time anyway. In the case of the American revolution, the Soviets in the 2nd world war and the North Vietnamese they didn't have much choice but to win.
@@LoudaroundLincoln I would tend to disagree. However we can agree to disagree.
the part that always always always gets me in Gangs of New York is when you hear a newly dressed US soldier ask where Tennessee is
There're Irish on both sides it came about where they landed. There were ny, mass, penn, georgia, La, and sc. Moth regiments were Catholics, although plenty of Protestants on both sides . The south was not religious tolerant the regiments out la were looked down upon by many rebel b/c they were catholic but the same can be said of the north.
As a spanish/texan descendant i have to respect the harsh stuff the Irish went through and the good music they brough
Thanks 🙏
Thanks, but according to a screeching minimum that's racist.....
How dare you lament the Irish, or any white man under control by another across the history of all land.
One of those songs that can really make me cry. Such a wonderful performance.
I'm full blooded irish born&rared but hav been livein in america 3 years and i never appreciated what the irish went through here until i moved here it makes me so sad they suffered so much listen to the words of this song it says it all...by the way is there any other irish from d ould land itself that gets this song&loves it as much as i do just curious??
Long live the Irish Brigade on both sides.
Yes
There was only ever one irish brigade in the war (to be an actual brigade size formation you need atleast 3 regiments) and it fought on the Union side , it included the famous 69th. The song Kellys irish brigade was about a group of irish from Missouri fighting for the confederates and they wasnt actually brigade size at all , calling themselves a brigade was more bravado than truth (and also in ref to the famous irish brigade that fought and won much honor fighting in the French army for 100 years) and never did an Irish brigade exist in the confederate order of battle ever. Irish did obviously serve in the confederate army they just never had a dedicated brigade size formation.
Thanks to " Gang of New-York " .....
ça fesait super longtemp que je chercher cette musique, et même si je comprend pratiquement rien au parole, on ressens vraiment la puissance de cette musique !!PS: J'adore le solo de violons à la fin !!! ;)
May Erin's Harp and the Starry Flag united ever be
Terrific editing job. One of the most touching video works I've seen on UA-cam. Outstanding
The lines that stick to my heart are :
I was by hunger pressed,
And in poverty distressed,
So I took a thought I'd leave the Irish Nation.
These lines bring tears in my eyes every time.
And I'm not Irish,I'm Romanian.
And I wish I was at home, in dear oll' Dublin...
Beautiful song, beautiful voice, beautiful land.
Ireland ubber alles!
Our fortune there to make we were thinkin' , when i got t' yankee land they shoved a musket in my hand, sayin' Paddy now you'll fight for mr. Lincoln...tis true and a fact rarely mentioned in school...
I loved this song since the first time when I watched Gangs of New York, like all the Irish songs. Can you tell me what's the movie at the end of the video?
Glory...
Wow, thanks for making this video.
I loved how you used the clips from various movies and made it really work!
This song always made me cry.
Excellent compilation to an excellent song.
Born in Wilmington North Carolina. North Carolina was the last state to enter the Civil War and took the greatest losses. Grandparents from Cork Ireland. Must go there. "Can't get to Heaven without a visit to Ireland."
Just south of Camp Lejeune, eh?
I thought Virginia seceded last?
this song hits me in the heart it does
Thank you for this video! The history here... Let us not forget where we came from!
This is a great song, with an equally great video.
Irish Immigrants built the township I live in. I'm Proud to be a descendant of them.
Why are all the people complaining about our fellow Irishmen dying for America? If it wasn't for America, we wouldn't have had as much money for arms during our War of Independence. America are Ireland's closest allie
my family is of Irish decensent on both sides, so my mom listens to irish music sometimes. she had this on a cd when i eas younger and i used to cry everytime i heard it. thankfully my family didnt come until the 1900s
I'm talking to you from Ireland and I think it's one of the most significant world events. Fascinating stuff-the worst circumstances bring the best people. We'll probably never know the full story
I love the Irish.
Took racism, grooling poverty and never played the victim.
You are tough paddy, tough as petrified wood.
They earned their citizenship
@@zyzor no, your U.S. immigrant was the run of the mill tosser. no aspects, no education, no reason, no actual sense of national identity aside from being mad at the British for wanting you, a british colony to pay for the war that saved your existence. basically just a bunch of screaming, racist english children with no sense of responsibility or greatfulness. prime example of this ilk never changing would most likely be you as shown by your racism and lack of understanding of "terrorist nations" that the U.S. most likely relies on for fossil fuels.
@@seancampbell6292 Only for the British to restrict the land they fought over
Kenneth Matthew Irish never played the victim? Someone needs to brush up on their history.
@@gfoot9916 please, give us an instance.
"Stand firm ye boys from Maine, for not once in a century are men permitted to bear such responsibility for freedom and justice, for God and humanity as are now placed upon you."
Thanks for the video! This video made me more curious about the Irish immigrant experience during the American Civil War. The scene where Irish immigrants were recruited right off the boats really caught my attention.
beautiful voice ! best part 3minutes 27 secondes ! i really like the music at the end !!!
"Tairiscint a whist ciúin" be quiet in Irish becomes "bid a hush" be quiet for awhile in Irish- American English.
So many good men died for people that wish to ruin everything they stand for.
I love Mary Black's version of this song. I always have. Your video is fantastic! The clips, the photos, and the scenes are perfect and they are so well synced with the song. I am trying to make my very first video...a simple slide show... and I don't know how you did this. It is total perfection! I am so glad to get to see this. You have a wonderful talent. Thank you.
Nice combination of clips from different movies :)
Not all Irishmen here in America were opposed to "Lincoln's war". One of my ancestors, a Catholic Irishman from Armagh, was so offended by slavery that he preached constantly against it before the war (he lived in NH). And when war came, although he was a tad long in the tooth (born 1818), he pestered the army till he was admitted as a gun totting soldier. He fought on the front lines in several battles till he got a southern bullet in the head at Fredricksburg. That didn't stop him, though; he then served as a paper-pusher at HQ till the conflict was over. Not only did he offer himself for the cause, but he convinced his son and his son-in-law to also sign up. He was in the 10th NH. In the directory of his home town (the equivalent of the phone book back then) he was forever afterward identified as "Grimes, Robert, 10th inf."
Finally! An irish that didn't wallow in self pity and actually joined other americans in the fight! I'm just curious how u know all this from your ancestor? Ancestry.com?
damiion666 Yes, among other sources. There was a lot of local myth that had to be cleared before his story emerged as it truly happened. For example, the local paper in his obit tried to lionize the man beyond belief, making him in his 90's when he died (they put his birth at 1804 instead of the correct 1818). I knew that was nonsense because it would have made him almost 60 when a front-line soldier! And it wasn't necessary anyway; what he actually did stands on its own just fine. I didn't mention it, but he also carried the scar from that wound at Fredricksburg to the grave, something also mentioned in his obit, but a fact, not fiction.
Jack Gordon Funny, because the war wasn't about slavery.
GuineaPigGamer what was it then?
Matt Szurgot
States' Rights and lower Tariff's. When the South was faced with their rights threatened, they left the Union peacefully. Note the Virginia, North Carolina, Arkansas, and Tennessee seceded after Lincoln called for an Army to invade the Southern States without the Consent of Congress.
I heard we’re going to Tennessee .
Where’s that?
Do they feed us now?
The best version of the song by Mary Black.
Love it !
Great post mate !
Nick, you really seem to have a talent at showing the forgotten theatres of war with honour and tact. The film "Gangs of New York" deals briefly with the poverty of the Irish in America, as well as Uncle Sam's attempt to draft them.
@Marydawgs.as the old joke runs
American official1: "how do we know Saddam Hussein has WMDs?"
American official2; "we kept the receipts"
I don't think any of you realize that this song is about the Irish immigrants anger at being forced into the war that they had no part in. More than 50% of the Union army were drafted immigrants, especially German and Irish, oh God so many of them were Irish, and along with that more than 75% of the Union Army were drafted Soldiers.
Its a traditional Irish immigrant song... The video is clear on that...
Matt Szurgot
"When we got to the Yankee land, they shoved a gun into out hands. Sayin' Paddy, you must go and fight for Lincoln." Yes, clearly an Irish Immigration Song and not an Irish Folk Song about their anger of being thrust into a war they had part in.
We should offer illegal aliens three options go to federal prison and face deportation, face expulsion, or sign up for the army for five years and become a citizen. That's what the Romans did to people from conquered places they could join the roman ranks for five years and then have the full rights of a roman citizen.
+GuineaPigGamer You're stats are all wrong. The Union army had around 2.5 million men all told and the majority were not drafted.
Only 10% of the union army were drafted
Very lovely song and good video! :-)
A neat movie. Cool. Good music, too.
THIS IS AMERICA !!!!!!!!!
It is quite a bit of irony an Irish song complaining about endless war in America.
that's not the meaning of the song, it means irish who fled ireland for a supposidly better life in the states were met with war, suffering and death. to be then discriminated against on a scale similar to the blacks back then. they left a life of misery only to find even more misery, which was harder to deal with as they thought they were gonna find a life of peace
WesternInfantry A song about self pity in my opinion. When u leave your homeland where u are starving, make the new land that's allowing u in you home...u have to pay your dues. Everyone else is fighting, why not you? There is no free lunch. Flash forward a century later and you have an irish-American as president (Kennedy). I think the irish came out ahead...
damiion666 you kidding me? how can you expect anybody to fight and die for a country they don't even know or love as soon as they're off the boat without ever having got any of the so called benefits of living in the "land of the free". its a different story if you are there a couple of years and had a peaceful and prosperous life but to be expected to die for a country that gave you absolutely nothing, and the irish that are there a while only face discrimination. you move to russia tomorrow and as soon as you land they put you in combat gear and ship you to the front where you have a 50% chance of being killed, you call that fair?
WesternInfantry " how can you expect anybody to fight and die for a country they don't even know or love as soon as they're off the boat "...They had a choice. They could have stayed home.
"without ever having got any of the so called benefits of living in the land of the free"...The first benefit they get is they don't get to starve any more. I'd hardly call that "absolutely nothing". My odds are 50% but at least I have a fighting chance, stay back home and I have a 99% chance of me and my entire family starving. I know which odds I'd take. The rest of the benefits have to be earned.
damiion666 they had no idea the war was going on. to go from one famine torn land to straight away getting thrown into a war. they had NO choice, in order to get to the USA in the first place most people sold all their possessions of which they had little so there was no going back. and to top it all the irish were treated like absolute shit in that time and for years to follow, there were no benefits the irish were treated more poorly than the blacks at the time. You obviously have some twisted notion of war and famine in your head while you live at home with your mother having never known any hardship. the men who fought got rations but when they didnt fight or the women they got fuckin nothing and were treated like slaves.
Beautiful song
+NicktheIrishman Thank you for sharing this. I've been trying to find this version for the accordion jig at the end.
accursed be the war, and the death of poor people, whatever their personal convictions might be.
And let Satan spit out Judas and chew Jeff Davis instead. The treason would be more savory in the racist booger.
No.There were hundreds maybe thousands of Irishmen in the Confederacy
The Navy Seal Trump Flag we?
More Irish fought for the Union
One of those songs that gives me goosebumps. I don't have Irish blood in me. Greetings and peace to all human beings from Samarkand!
the ulster men were mostly loyalist who fought agaisnt a free america . were as the Irish fought to free america. and during the civil war as well
Nope. The they were pretty unanimously on the side of the continental army during the war of independence.
They were also on the side of the south in the civil war. The right side.
Dan Breen there were way more Irish fighting for the Union not the Confederacy
The Irish were very brave. But it's very unfortunate of them to come here searching for a better life then next thing they know, they're thrown into the Union army.
excellent video thanks
Beautiful song!
EIRINN GO BRACH
Agus...
MALLACHT AR AN CHOGAIDH !
(Long live Ireland and...curse on the war !)
The last 1:35, best I've ever heard...
Sequence at 3:32 was a lot better
3:34 guy on the left is a *BOSS* with that instrument!
Beutifull but sad song i love irish music cheers from Croatia
I am Irish whose ancestors were in the civil war. We are obviously are white. Our families received no reparations. It would be nice for Black leaders who demand reparations to maybe thank the Irish soldiers who courageously fought against slavery
Jayson Williams Did you just graduate from 5th Grade?
“As for the South, it is enough to say that perhaps eighty per cent.
of her armies were neither slave-holders, nor had the remotest interest
in the institution. No other proof, however, is needed than the
undeniable fact that at any period of the war from its beginning to near
its close the South could have saved slavery by simply laying down its
arms and returning to the Union.”
Major General John B. Gordon, from his book, Causes of the Civil War.
“When the South raised its sword against the Union’s Flag, it was in defense of the Union’s Constitution.”
Confederate General John B. Gordon
“To tar the sacrifices of the Confederate soldier as simple acts of
racism, and reduce the battle flag under which he fought to nothing more
than the symbol of a racist heritage, is one of the great blasphemies
of our modern age”.
James Webb-Secretary of Navy And Assistant Secretary of Defense under
U.S. President Ronald Regan and current U.S. Senator (D.VA.) (Born
Fighting: How the Scots-Irish Shaped America, New York: Broadway Books,
2004, p. 225)
“Every man should endeavor to understand the meaning of subjugation
before it is too late… It means the history of this heroic struggle will
be written by the enemy; that our youth will be trained by Northern
schoolteachers; will learn from Northern school books their version of
the war; will be impressed by the influences of history and education to
regard our gallant dead as traitors, and our maimed veterans as fit
objects for derision… It is said slavery is all we are fighting for, and
if we give it up we give up all. Even if this were true, which we deny,
slavery is not all our enemies are fighting for. It is merely the
pretense to establish sectional superiority and a more centralized form
of government, and to deprive us of our rights and liberties.”
Maj. General Patrick R. Cleburne, CSA, January 1864
“I tried all in my power to avert this war. I saw it coming, for
twelve years I worked night and day to prevent it, but I could not. The
North was mad and blind; it would not let us govern ourselves, and so
the war came, and now it must go on unless you acknowledge our right to
self government. We are not fighting for slavery. We are fighting for
Independence.”
President Jefferson Davis, CSA
you are obviously a racist against the Irish
Jayson Williams
Funny, because one of my bigger ethnic groups in my blood, IS irish.
you must be from the racists South who despised the Northern Irish, although I respect the southern Irish mostly who settled in Appalachia
Jayson Williams
Nope, I'm not racist at all. And again, I'm part Irish. I also despise slavery.
My ancestors sure had a lot of privilege, I can't wait to pay reparations
it gives me chills love the voice of whoever the singer is
What a Beautiful Sound
God save the South
Long Live the Union. The North Remembers.
And you Northerners all accuse the Southerners of being stubborn and stuck in the past! See the sad, sorry state of the Union today? The average Yankee Civil War veteran, if he could see this crap, would be filled with regret. My ancestors were on both sides.
Dustin O'Connor You are right they would dislike that we granted freedoms to women and minorities.
Kathic Yeah and the people who actually made this country have no rights anymore, only the "women" and minorities. Real women despise your whacked out left wing crap too ...
Dustin O'Connor You are right because no one but white males had a hand in building this country. Not the black salves who's labour did do much to help the nation. Not the millions of immigrants who powered our industrial revolution. Not the women who gave up so much to help this nation through it's many wars.
Dustin O'Connor At least I don't spell color with a u or use the metric system.
It was saddenning me reading all these comments so thanks for injecting some humour.
nice video i love the song
Say what you want about the south and north ... but look the culture today. SWJ on one side, and right wing trolls like Sarah Palin or Rudy Giuliani on the other ... At least back then ... people fought real and hard for what they believed in. But I might be biased, I am from Yugoslavia.
You write well for a fellow slav.
Well, you can us slavs, but they don't just talk about it, they really go to their neighbours and kill them :D.
CrniWuk Not slavs here in Canada. We just work hard and stay out of trouble. XD
Yeah, I feel for you brother, they really lost their ways :/.
was saying Yugoslavia your way to be clever in your statement? if so can you explain?
good job on the video!
HAPPY SAINT PADDYS 2023 !!!!!
I'm a descendant of an irish soldier 69th pennsylvania slying at gettysburg and union sailors
and that lyric "when we got to yanki land they showed a gun int to our hand saying paddy you must go and fight for lincoln" when i heard that and the melody i just wanted to listen this song and like i said i before couple of weeks finaly found the song btw great job nick
you are getting so proud that you forgotten your contry and became hardcore americans is this a pride of your contry this video
this video, makes my day
i dont know whether it's said ya but what great video to this i hope you are a irishman to feel this...
Brilliant
MY GOD HOW BEAUTIFUL....
I love that song.
Haunting voice and amazing images. Erin Go Bragh!
Not Irish but love this song
God damn lol , That dude head at the end went like "Splat" lol
The full title of the song is Paddy's Lamentation/Ships are Sailing by Mary Black..... Gangs of New York brought me here.
I don't know what Irish people you have been talking to, but I am irish, some of my people emigrated to America back in the early 1900s. The Irish who had to emigrate were never forgotten or will ever be forgotten. Always be proud of your heritage, ye are not forgotten. :-]
Thats is indeed a LEGENDARY account written 600 years after events. Cairenn is derived from the Latin name Carina.
great vid
Great song, I've always liked old Irish music. Its better then the modern day stuff.
Mary Black sings the main piece. The reel at the end, titled "The Ships are Sailing," is performed by the Chieftains.
Heartbreaking...
Sad but true .....
God blesss real irish people
Thanks so much!
The Irish in the US Civil War. Nice Vid.
Mary Black's voice is beautiful!