@@thomasdeturk5142 That's correct. I really hate it when people think folks who are 50 years apart somehow are too different to understand and like each other. For one thing: we love trains! What else does a person need in life!!!!?🤣😂🤣
Excellent - a first class Christmas treat. The one place in the US I would wish to visit the most, but never shall now. I'm on the wrong side of the Big Pond, and too old to go now.
5:44 Fun Fact about clinchfield engine number 1 . That engine was going to be used as the Santa Clause Express but it could only pull 2 cars so they went with diesels.
I just realized that on February 14-29 Baltimore was hit with a massive snow storm and sadly the roundhouse’s roof collapsed and started a fire, damaging the engines and rolling stock. The one that was most damaged was the thatcher Perkins but luckily all the engines were repaired but pretty much the same thing happened to number 12
I like the layout at the beginning. The background backdrop is beautiful and nicely representative. Great walk around of the engines. I must make my way to this museum at some point. I have read about these engines in my various railway books. While sitting in that cab is as close as you’ve come to operating a real steam locomotive. True. And sorta not true - if you consider miniature live steam. Yeah yeah not near as complicated, but you are on my channel running live steam. 😆 Loved the dreamy sequence from the cab. The BL2… coooool engine. There is a door on the front platform and steps up into the cab if I am not mistaken. There is a several thousand pound lead ballast weight in the nose you walk over. I would be interested in another video about the additional non- engine items. And I LOVED seeing Enterprise!!! 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊 Great vid Michael.
My hometown! The B&O Train Museum is our gem of American railroading. The #25 was used to pull trains back and forth on the grounds after the WWW Movie. I got to ride it, and thankfully videotaped it. They had to stop when someone pointed out that you can't pull passengers without brakes. Unfortunately it has a major crown sheet problem and will probably never run again. The Camel was actually a DAVIS CAMEL, a 4-6-0, not a WINANS, 0-8-0. There were 3 types of B&O Camels- Winans, Hayes, and Davis. BTW, #305 is not a "Camelback". A Camel loco has the cab atop the boiler, the Camelback has the cab straddling the boiler (like the CNJ Camelback #592 there). The reason the Camel's cab was placed on top of the boiler was not because of the size of the firebox (they did not have the wide Wooten Firebox and burned regular coal), but to put additional weight on the drivers. Very helpful for pulling trains over the Allegheny Mountains. Camelbacks were used into the 1950s on the CNJ (there are color videos of them online). Also, notice in the clip from the mirror universe. They didn't use the same model. A prior model from the first pilot that had spikes on the front nacelles and finished on both sides was used. You can see the spikes on the front in the clip on the mirror Enterprise, and there are a number of PR photos showing the original filming model with the spiked nacelles. It's a shame I didn't know you were in town. I've visited the railroad museum many many times since the mid 1960s. I could have met up with you and treated you to your admission.
I knew someone would correct me about the Camelback, lol. I wanted to go deeper into the differences but didn't have enough footage. I'll admit I had no idea there were 3 different builders of the original Camels. The cab weight thing is interesting - I wouldn't think the cab was heavy enough to make a difference. They obviously didn't have the wide Wooten firebox, but the firebox did look larger to me than a typical locomotive of the time. As for the Star Trek model, the footage used for the left side was indeed reused from the pilot episode, but it was the same model. The original spiked nacelle caps are on display in the glass case alongside the model - they were swapped out with the lighted ones between the filming of the pilot and the series (although many of the pilot footage was reused in later episodes). Other details were changed as well, such as the balls on the rear end of the nacelles and the height of the bridge dome being reduced. The second, smaller model, which was finished on both sides, was never actually used on the show - only for promotional photos (and the cover of Leonard Nimoy's album). As far as I'm aware, all shots of Constitution-class starships in the series used the same 11-foot wooden model, with one exception - the heavily damaged USS Constellation in "The Doomsday Machine" was a plastic Enterprise model kit that was modified to look damaged.
@@michaelramsey81 From drawings and photos that I've seen, the Winans and Hayes Camels had much longer fireboxes than was normal on most engines of the time, allowing them to burn hard anthracite. The engines intrigue me as the type was almost unknown in this country (GB) save for one lonely exception, the 'Lovett Eames', brought over as a demonstrator for the Eames Airbrake Co. Abandoned by the company and scrapped, its bell survives in the keeping of the Royal Institute of Mechanical Engineers. 'Pioneer' is a lovely little engine - again a long time favourite of mine. Times have certainly changed. Can't haul passengers on trains without brakes? Well, the pioneering railways did..... Does anybody recall a 1950's TV series entitled 'Legends of the West', featuring a character named Matt Helm, railroad detective? I think the B&O Museum provided a number of engines for the series, as they helped Disney for 'The Great Locomotive Chase' (The 'William Mason' played the 'General' - she and 'Reno' gave the most convincing performances of the picture.)
Thanks so much for this fantastic video but Baltimore is a crime mecca and I would LOVE to visit this museum but i just don’t feel safe in that city . We’re you completely comfortable there? Those historic locomotives are what I truly love about railroading.
I didn't spend any time walking around the city. We took Uber cars between the train station and the museum and had no issues. The hotel we stayed in was in DC, and we took the Acela up to Baltimore and back in one day. I wouldn't really want to explore Baltimore on foot, but if you take Uber straight from the station to the museum and back, you should be fine.
Yes - for quite a while, it was in a dark green livery left over from its appearance in Wild Wild West. In 2017 it was restored to its original 1856 paint scheme.
Hey railfan guy I know you were born in the 1960-1970s of the Baltimore and Ohio railroad I was born in Victorville California on the former Burlington Northern and the Atchison Topkea & Santa Fe Railway And the Union Pacific Railroad and some former Southern Pacific of Transportation railroad and the former Burlington Northern and Santa Fe Railway as BNSF railway and Union Pacific Railroad has the former Southern Pacific of Transportation railroad and the Denver & Rio Grande Western Railroad are part of the Union Pacific Railroad today at least the former Union Pacific Railroad is still handling it today in 2024-2025s next year.
On the sumpter valley we have an 1880s wood frame passenger car that is in regular service Not only does it sag slightly but the frame was actually once cut in half and then when it got restored the beams were bolted back together
I'm 50 years older than you are, and thoroughly enjoyed this fun-filled video. Thanks for sharing this fantastic place!🙂
You were born in 1947 just the first couple years of the baby boomers.
@@thomasdeturk5142 That's correct. I really hate it when people think folks who are 50 years apart somehow are too different to understand and like each other. For one thing: we love trains! What else does a person need in life!!!!?🤣😂🤣
Nicely done. Certainly enjoyable. Thank you.
Excellent - a first class Christmas treat. The one place in the US I would wish to visit the most, but never shall now. I'm on the wrong side of the Big Pond, and too old to go now.
Excellent video. Merry Christmas.
Absolutely nothing is boring in either of these museums, very cool!
5:44 Fun Fact about clinchfield engine number 1 . That engine was going to be used as the Santa Clause Express but it could only pull 2 cars so they went with diesels.
I just realized that on February 14-29 Baltimore was hit with a massive snow storm and sadly the roundhouse’s roof collapsed and started a fire, damaging the engines and rolling stock. The one that was most damaged was the thatcher Perkins but luckily all the engines were repaired but pretty much the same thing happened to number 12
i'd really enjoy a 6 hour video on the B&O RR museum
Clinchfield no 1 has Rogers brush strokes written all over it. That, my friend was a super video... Merry Xmas.
You say the diagram is sloppy but it still gets the point over. Very cool museum with lots of older locomotives
I like the layout at the beginning. The background backdrop is beautiful and nicely representative. Great walk around of the engines. I must make my way to this museum at some point. I have read about these engines in my various railway books. While sitting in that cab is as close as you’ve come to operating a real steam locomotive. True. And sorta not true - if you consider miniature live steam. Yeah yeah not near as complicated, but you are on my channel running live steam. 😆 Loved the dreamy sequence from the cab. The BL2… coooool engine. There is a door on the front platform and steps up into the cab if I am not mistaken. There is a several thousand pound lead ballast weight in the nose you walk over. I would be interested in another video about the additional non- engine items. And I LOVED seeing Enterprise!!! 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊 Great vid Michael.
Thanks! I suppose I should have said "full-size" rather than "real", haha.
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wow thats a nice museum, always wanted to go there.
Merry Christmas michael!
Very nicely done
My hometown! The B&O Train Museum is our gem of American railroading. The #25 was used to pull trains back and forth on the grounds after the WWW Movie. I got to ride it, and thankfully videotaped it. They had to stop when someone pointed out that you can't pull passengers without brakes. Unfortunately it has a major crown sheet problem and will probably never run again. The Camel was actually a DAVIS CAMEL, a 4-6-0, not a WINANS, 0-8-0. There were 3 types of B&O Camels- Winans, Hayes, and Davis. BTW, #305 is not a "Camelback". A Camel loco has the cab atop the boiler, the Camelback has the cab straddling the boiler (like the CNJ Camelback #592 there). The reason the Camel's cab was placed on top of the boiler was not because of the size of the firebox (they did not have the wide Wooten Firebox and burned regular coal), but to put additional weight on the drivers. Very helpful for pulling trains over the Allegheny Mountains. Camelbacks were used into the 1950s on the CNJ (there are color videos of them online). Also, notice in the clip from the mirror universe. They didn't use the same model. A prior model from the first pilot that had spikes on the front nacelles and finished on both sides was used. You can see the spikes on the front in the clip on the mirror Enterprise, and there are a number of PR photos showing the original filming model with the spiked nacelles. It's a shame I didn't know you were in town. I've visited the railroad museum many many times since the mid 1960s. I could have met up with you and treated you to your admission.
I knew someone would correct me about the Camelback, lol. I wanted to go deeper into the differences but didn't have enough footage. I'll admit I had no idea there were 3 different builders of the original Camels. The cab weight thing is interesting - I wouldn't think the cab was heavy enough to make a difference. They obviously didn't have the wide Wooten firebox, but the firebox did look larger to me than a typical locomotive of the time.
As for the Star Trek model, the footage used for the left side was indeed reused from the pilot episode, but it was the same model. The original spiked nacelle caps are on display in the glass case alongside the model - they were swapped out with the lighted ones between the filming of the pilot and the series (although many of the pilot footage was reused in later episodes). Other details were changed as well, such as the balls on the rear end of the nacelles and the height of the bridge dome being reduced. The second, smaller model, which was finished on both sides, was never actually used on the show - only for promotional photos (and the cover of Leonard Nimoy's album). As far as I'm aware, all shots of Constitution-class starships in the series used the same 11-foot wooden model, with one exception - the heavily damaged USS Constellation in "The Doomsday Machine" was a plastic Enterprise model kit that was modified to look damaged.
@@michaelramsey81 From drawings and photos that I've seen, the Winans and Hayes Camels had much longer fireboxes than was normal on most engines of the time, allowing them to burn hard anthracite. The engines intrigue me as the type was almost unknown in this country (GB) save for one lonely exception, the 'Lovett Eames', brought over as a demonstrator for the Eames Airbrake Co. Abandoned by the company and scrapped, its bell survives in the keeping of the Royal Institute of Mechanical Engineers. 'Pioneer' is a lovely little engine - again a long time favourite of mine.
Times have certainly changed. Can't haul passengers on trains without brakes? Well, the pioneering railways did.....
Does anybody recall a 1950's TV series entitled 'Legends of the West', featuring a character named Matt Helm, railroad detective? I think the B&O Museum provided a number of engines for the series, as they helped Disney for 'The Great Locomotive Chase' (The 'William Mason' played the 'General' - she and 'Reno' gave the most convincing performances of the picture.)
That’s my home state!
So i do volunteer at this museum from time to time, whenever you come out next time. i can take you to the carshop
That would be amazing!
1:28 if you want to see him talking about 19th century locomotive design
Thanks so much for this fantastic video but Baltimore is a crime mecca and I would LOVE to visit this museum but i just don’t feel safe in that city . We’re you completely comfortable there? Those historic locomotives are what I truly love about railroading.
I didn't spend any time walking around the city. We took Uber cars between the train station and the museum and had no issues. The hotel we stayed in was in DC, and we took the Acela up to Baltimore and back in one day. I wouldn't really want to explore Baltimore on foot, but if you take Uber straight from the station to the museum and back, you should be fine.
6:29 Wait does the sound actually synchronize with how far the throttle is pulled?
No, the sound is just on a loop that repeats every couple of minutes. I was trying to sync the throttle movements with the sound.
Ah ok it would have been really cool if the museum had set it up that way, This is similar to the trains at the North Carolina transportation museum
perhaps if you ever return someday you do multiple videos to keep them short
Seems the Williom Mason has been painted.
Yes - for quite a while, it was in a dark green livery left over from its appearance in Wild Wild West. In 2017 it was restored to its original 1856 paint scheme.
Hey railfan guy I know you were born in the 1960-1970s of the Baltimore and Ohio railroad I was born in Victorville California on the former Burlington Northern and the Atchison Topkea & Santa Fe Railway And the Union Pacific Railroad and some former Southern Pacific of Transportation railroad and the former Burlington Northern and Santa Fe Railway as BNSF railway and Union Pacific Railroad has the former Southern Pacific of Transportation railroad and the Denver & Rio Grande Western Railroad are part of the Union Pacific Railroad today at least the former Union Pacific Railroad is still handling it today in 2024-2025s next year.
On the sumpter valley we have an 1880s wood frame passenger car that is in regular service
Not only does it sag slightly but the frame was actually once cut in half and then when it got restored the beams were bolted back together