I have literally been around railroading all my life. I am a 4th generation retired engineer off of the UP in New Orleans. And now involved with a couple Steam Locomotives and other vintage rail equipment. I have seen quite a few man powered turntables. But I have never seen a Steam Locomotive like the B&O-305. Now I will have to do some research on it. This museum is now on my bucket list. Thanks for sharing.
I've been to this museum. 1) the turntable is very well balanced, thus the hardest part is getting it moving. 2) what you can't see in that little pit in the table is something resembling a bicycle.
Your Welcome. Please excuse the late reply. As far as I know the museum keeps most of the locomotives and rolling stock lubricated to keep moving parts from seizing up. Even so those locomotives a much to heavy to by hand though some of the smaller artifacts are pushed by hand. As long as the person driving the tractor is careful he normally doesn't leave marks though it does happen on occasion.
One time when I was a the B&O museum there was an exhibit that allowed people to walk through the cabs of locomotive. So being the kid that i am I felt the random urge to push one of the pedals at the floor of the cab. Wouldn't you know it steam came out the funnel of the locomotive. Realizing what I just did I hightailed out of the exhibit hoping nobody would notice thankfully no one did. I was to afraid to tell my parents which didn't matter since were moving on to the other parts of the museum. Then a couple minutes later I finally came clean and told my mom, of coarse she didn't make a big a deal out of it as I thought she would. About an hour later when we were going through the main part (the part were the incident happened) I saw steam come out funnel of the same steam locomotive were i pushed the pedal. This time it wasn't me, that was when I realized that one of the staff of the museum was turning a valve on the locomotive every so often to release steam from the locomotive. A wave a relief fell over me. I've never been back since. Sorry for the paragraph long comment MrImpossiblyBlack, I just wanted to tell my experience at this museum.
I grew up in a house just a block from there...... I spent a lot of time walking around and exploring that place... I wish they had a video of a complete walk through from start to finish. We moved from the city in 1973, and i haven't been able to go back to see any of the things I grew up with. {I liked your paragraph!}
My wife and I and our 4 year old grandson Gunner ate lunch out on that turntable two months ago while visiting the museum. They were set up for a presentation later that day so we just scooted some chairs together and had lunch. I'm amazed that they moved that turntable and many ton engine just by pushing with their legs. That is incredible. Beautiful Museum.
One of the key reasons that railways were viable in the first place is that steel wheels on steel rails have a shockingly low coefficient of friction. On flat ground, one man can push an unladen rail car!
I'm surprised these guys use a farming tractor to move the equipment. In Europe small battery switchers (like El16 ASF built in the GDR) are used for that purpose, designed with roundhouses in mind. And these little things can not only move a locomotive, but even a three-car EMU on a level grade track with ease.
The B&O is actually maybe 30 minutes away from my home, I live in Columbia which is relatively close to Baltimore. I remember going when I was much younger, and enjoying every minute of it.
I have been fascinated by trains even when I was a child. While, stopping at rr crossings, I was always amazed at the magnificence of the train's size and it's ability to pique my wonder of the faraway places it was going to.
It must be a great privilege if anyone could ever ride one of these again. They carried great treasures and memories from the past. I would be honored to ride one of those even for once in my life. 😭
I have been there several times. That turntable is so smooth! Once when I was there they had several old locomotives in display. A few of them they let you get up in the cab !! B & I had a cool museum in Ellicott City too !!
I can't believe a wee Tractor was pushing these 150 year old Beasts onto a Turntable, Beautiful looking Locos, Love that sort of Job ❤️Great Video whoever Filmed this, All the best from Scotland 🏴
I seriously MUST HAPPILY point out that I've witnessed the turntable in the roundhouse @ the B & O Railroad Museum in Baltimore in Maryland in action with my own official Dad named Preston some years ago as they were turning a piece of rolling stock of rolling stock on it that's basically known as a caboose here in the U S A while people in the U K identified that piece of rolling stock as a brake van!
My Father worked for the B&O for 18 yrs. The Riverside one. He quit in1938. About 1952 they were using steam & diesil he took me over there & believe this, one of the bosses from back then was still there. I got to run a 3200 series into the round house. I was about 12 at the time. I`ll never forget it. I love anything that runs on steam.
Yes, he was. Did you notice that the engine bumped when coming off the table? This is because the ends don't touch when the table is spinning, as the engine is balanced on the center ball bearings. The end supports are only for entering or exiting the table. This makes it very easy to turn (even by foot!)
You know, I feel like some handles sticking up from the turntable would make it *much* easier to turn, rather than relying on people pushing with their feet.
My great grandfather was a fireman for the B&O. He was also a victim of poor eyesight to I suppose as he stepped in front of a passing freighter and was knocked a considerable distance according to his obituary. his trained had stopped to take on water and he stepped from his engine and bang my family history was changed.
Oh, the indignity of being moved by an old tractor and not belching steam and smoke. But, at least they are in a nice retirement facility and decently and lovingly cared for. More than I can say for some humans.
Christopher Adams was 305 a working loco or just experimental. If it is a real working loco what was the purpose of the camel back. We never had them where I am ??
A "Camelback" is a loco with the cab mounted either atop or astride the boiler. The purpose of which was to place as much weight as posible over the drive wheels to increase traction at the wheels and provide a better center of gravity. They were developed by two separate companies during different times. Both companies saw moderate success.
The cab was actually placed further forward to allow the firebox to be extra big, allowing the economical use of cheap, super low quality coal. Otherwise, the engineer would have had particularly poor visibility.
That is the sound of air escaping from the cylinder drains. As the wheels turn the pistons are moved back and forth in the cylinders which push air out.
Shouldn't get a finger or a leg trapped between the fixed floor and the turntable. As elegant as it looks, it will snap it right off when the momentum is in there. Nice locomotive and museum!
wow 305 is a unique piece, dont think I ever saw a train with a cab like that though me wonders how the fireman worked in tandam with the engineer if there was that seperation .
It's called a camelback locomotive. Although, later designs were far less striking. I first found out about them in a railroad tycoon game, but never seen such an early iteration before. It really is a sight to behold.
Like that old Coffeepot Steamer, #25 looks like an old Mason built locomotive. Old Camel, I've heard about these when I was a young boy during the 1930s, but never seen one. Love the history here :-)
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Wonderful video! Thank you. Could these guys not have moved the locomotive themsleves? (I would much rather use my own muscles and not have rubber tires damaging that nice floor.) Did they first lubricate the cylinder walls so the pistons do not score them?
Well, being a museum that is one heck of a turntable, pretty and pretty hard to keep clean. Grew up in Barrington IL the CNW and EJ&E crossed there. My father worked the "J" At ten years old I would go to the tower and toss switches on direction from the rr man ONLY... End of day would find me at the turntable other side of the depot, the guys knew me and dad and let me hook up the air engine on the table and turn the engine myself... Boy, I wish had a camera back then..
I once applied for a position at a roundhouse and my job was to sweep out the corners.
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Well, it was a rotating shift. You'd get all turned around doing it.
easy money
I held stock in B&O for a while. Then I sold it for a hotel on Park Place.
Let me guess....you took a 'bored walk' through the museum, and had to 'train' you mind while you were 'reading' about how the 'water works'?
David Young why you cheeky little...
I paid you rent too many times...
You never owned stock in the RR. As a true robber baron you were the sole owner.
Go directly to jail........
I've been there several times and this still amazes me. There is no motors only foot power,incredible
That was how the sport of Curling was invented.
Kind of Ironic that it shows the principles behind trains themselves. It really doesn't take a huge amount of weight and power to move that turn table
Very well made and well kept!
trains are applied logic
That's still amazing
Even when they aren't in steam you can still hear them breathe.
That thing ain't really human powered is it? Seems like you would know. Id probably believe it tho.
@@TempoDrift1480 Yup, it really is powered by peoples feet
Same I Was Thinking What Sound Is Coming From Engine When There Is No Steam Means Engine Is Not Running And Also Tractor Is Pushing Engine.
the one and only thunderbolt...
No. 305 was one of the most interesting locomotives I've ever seen. I'm also happy to see it being preserved.
I have literally been around railroading all my life. I am a 4th generation retired engineer off of the UP in New Orleans. And now involved with a couple Steam Locomotives and other vintage rail equipment. I have seen quite a few man powered turntables. But I have never seen a Steam Locomotive like the B&O-305. Now I will have to do some research on it. This museum is now on my bucket list. Thanks for sharing.
Pretty amazing that one guy with his feet can move the whole turntable with a locomotive on it.
The power of good bearings
@@cameronvandygriff7048 and leverage
I've been to this museum.
1) the turntable is very well balanced, thus the hardest part is getting it moving.
2) what you can't see in that little pit in the table is something resembling a bicycle.
Your Welcome. Please excuse the late reply. As far as I know the museum keeps most of the locomotives and rolling stock lubricated to keep moving parts from seizing up. Even so those locomotives a much to heavy to by hand though some of the smaller artifacts are pushed by hand. As long as the person driving the tractor is careful he normally doesn't leave marks though it does happen on occasion.
I recall it was like my dream to own my own steam locomotive as a child and to this day I still love them
One time when I was a the B&O museum there was an exhibit that allowed people to walk through the cabs of locomotive. So being the kid that i am I felt the random urge to push one of the pedals at the floor of the cab. Wouldn't you know it steam came out the funnel of the locomotive. Realizing what I just did I hightailed out of the exhibit hoping nobody would notice thankfully no one did. I was to afraid to tell my parents which didn't matter since were moving on to the other parts of the museum. Then a couple minutes later I finally came clean and told my mom, of coarse she didn't make a big a deal out of it as I thought she would. About an hour later when we were going through the main part (the part were the incident happened) I saw steam come out funnel of the same steam locomotive were i pushed the pedal. This time it wasn't me, that was when I realized that one of the staff of the museum was turning a valve on the locomotive every so often to release steam from the locomotive. A wave a relief fell over me. I've never been back since.
Sorry for the paragraph long comment MrImpossiblyBlack, I just wanted to tell my experience at this museum.
I grew up in a house just a block from there...... I spent a lot of time walking around and exploring that place... I wish they had a video of a complete walk through from start to finish. We moved from the city in 1973, and i haven't been able to go back to see any of the things I grew up with. {I liked your paragraph!}
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Maybe the mechanics were having fun scaring little kids.
That’s like the lady who turned on her bedside light just as one of L.A.’s earthquakes started. She thought she caused it!
I wasn't expecting it to be manually powered. I guess the bearings are in good shape and well lubricated
I love the hissing of the locomotives, it's as if they're trying to tell their story.
My wife and I and our 4 year old grandson Gunner ate lunch out on that turntable two months ago while visiting the museum. They were set up for a presentation later that day so we just scooted some chairs together and had lunch. I'm amazed that they moved that turntable and many ton engine just by pushing with their legs. That is incredible. Beautiful Museum.
The true face of railroad workers: 7 people watching ONE work!
Thoses locos roll easily. Never thought a tractor that small could have moved one.
In the big reman plants for modern locomotives, they're moved by skidsteer, they move amazingly easy for their size
One of the key reasons that railways were viable in the first place is that steel wheels on steel rails have a shockingly low coefficient of friction. On flat ground, one man can push an unladen rail car!
@@F-Man there is a wonderful science behind it 😃
I'm surprised these guys use a farming tractor to move the equipment. In Europe small battery switchers (like El16 ASF built in the GDR) are used for that purpose, designed with roundhouses in mind. And these little things can not only move a locomotive, but even a three-car EMU on a level grade track with ease.
The B&O is actually maybe 30 minutes away from my home, I live in Columbia which is relatively close to Baltimore. I remember going when I was much younger, and enjoying every minute of it.
That guy never skips the leg day.
I have been fascinated by trains even when I was a child. While, stopping at rr crossings, I was always amazed at the magnificence of the train's size and it's ability to pique my wonder of the faraway places it was going to.
Ik I was mesmerized watching the train go by
B&O all the way, how beautiful! Thanks for the video!
That was cool. That place is on my list of places to see.
Jaw Tooth Nice seeing you here (I'm subscribed)
Thank you! I just got your message and I subscribed to you also!
Thank you! I don't get to see many trains where I am to record so my channel is mostly going toward animations, though
It must be a great privilege if anyone could ever ride one of these again. They carried great treasures and memories from the past. I would be honored to ride one of those even for once in my life. 😭
I have been there several times. That turntable is so smooth! Once when I was there they had several old locomotives in display. A few of them they let you get up in the cab !!
B & I had a cool museum in Ellicott City too !!
It took me a while to realize that the "breathing" sound I was hearing was coming from the pistons of the locomotives.
I can't believe a wee Tractor was pushing these 150 year old Beasts onto a Turntable, Beautiful looking Locos, Love that sort of Job ❤️Great Video whoever Filmed this, All the best from Scotland 🏴
Here in Brazil, we have several museums like this show here.
We are able to preserv our history too...
I seriously MUST HAPPILY point out that I've witnessed the turntable in the roundhouse @ the B & O Railroad Museum in Baltimore in Maryland in action with my own official Dad named Preston some years ago as they were turning a piece of rolling stock of rolling stock on it that's basically known as a caboose here in the U S A while people in the U K identified that piece of rolling stock as a brake van!
My Father worked for the B&O for 18 yrs. The Riverside one. He quit in1938. About 1952 they were using steam & diesil he took me over there & believe this, one of the bosses from back then was still there. I got to run a 3200 series into the round house. I was about 12 at the time. I`ll never forget it. I love anything that runs on steam.
I was 5yrs old when I stood next to #25 and it seemed HUGE! Brings back wonderful memories of Grandad Edwin M. Cook when he worked for B&O!
I've never seen it in action before. Cool!
That old tractor is pretty neat. Love the knuckle coupler and drawbar attachments on the front!
Ford 2000 or 3000 model from the looks of it.
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gravelydon needs more tire wieght so it wont slip as bad
gravelydon I think it might be a 3400 or 515 industrial tractor. It sure has a big job to do
B&O 4-6-0 "Camel back" locomotive. They placed the cab on top of the boiler to improve visibility for the engineer.
So oddly beautiful
Yes, he was. Did you notice that the engine bumped when coming off the table? This is because the ends don't touch when the table is spinning, as the engine is balanced on the center ball bearings. The end supports are only for entering or exiting the table. This makes it very easy to turn (even by foot!)
To make it part of the Civil War exhibit. Personally I thought it looked more impressive on the turntable.
I cant believe that guy is pushing the train all on his own!
With one leg to!
It amazed me as a child growing up there, and it still amazes me now........
You know, I feel like some handles sticking up from the turntable would make it *much* easier to turn, rather than relying on people pushing with their feet.
Is that turn table seriously hard wood floor? Wow!
Metra MP36 407 yes it is!
AMAZING! ....didn't think you could have a turntable indoors like that....looks like a gymnasium.....
I love that stack!
That is just amazing to engineer a turntable like that. Also that loco is beautiful.
I can’t be the only one who finds it hilarious to have steam trains shunted around by a tractor
Than you for sharing. Really a neat behind the scenes look.
Cab size has come a long way
I loved that train. I got my picture next to it. I wish i could have saw the turntable in action. Thank you for posting this so i can see it
First posted 9 years ago and I'm just now getting the notification? That's UA-cam for ya. Better late then never I guess.
Great video. Thanks.
My great grandfather was a fireman for the B&O. He was also a victim of poor eyesight to I suppose as he stepped in front of a passing freighter and was knocked a considerable distance according to his obituary. his trained had stopped to take on water and he stepped from his engine and bang my family history was changed.
Sorry to hear that. Did he enjoyed his job?
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I remember this place well love going to look at all the steam engines
Oh, the indignity of being moved by an old tractor and not belching steam and smoke. But, at least they are in a nice retirement facility and decently and lovingly cared for. More than I can say for some humans.
jayfmiller oh the indignity.
Gordon: That’s my line!
jayfmiller they probably don’t start them because they’re indoors in a prestine gallery
I love the guy walking across it while it's turning.
#305 is gorgeous. Always had an interest in the "Camel" or "Camel back" engines of the era.
Christopher Adams does she run on steam days?
Christopher Adams
Christopher Adams was 305 a working loco or just experimental. If it is a real working loco what was the purpose of the camel back. We never had them where I am ??
A "Camelback" is a loco with the cab mounted either atop or astride the boiler. The purpose of which was to place as much weight as posible over the drive wheels to increase traction at the wheels and provide a better center of gravity. They were developed by two separate companies during different times. Both companies saw moderate success.
The cab was actually placed further forward to allow the firebox to be extra big, allowing the economical use of cheap, super low quality coal. Otherwise, the engineer would have had particularly poor visibility.
I got to go there, it was amazing I really appreciated the area with the small replica of the trains.
Model railroad?
Bloody brill again! Cheers, John.
Excellent video. Those engines are so old, its amazing that they actually move!
21st Century Limited Like all things: Time and money!
What beautiful piece's of art work.
That is the sound of air escaping from the cylinder drains. As the wheels turn the pistons are moved back and forth in the cylinders which push air out.
Oh my goodness I remember now I used to work there so long ago but I had to leave the whole country behind oh I miss those days
Shouldn't get a finger or a leg trapped between the fixed floor and the turntable. As elegant as it looks, it will snap it right off when the momentum is in there. Nice locomotive and museum!
Not really a lot of room for that to happen.
No you shouldn’t. But those a grown Men who don’t need warning labels like children!
Very interesting video. Thanks for posting it.
+Warner Athey Your Welcome.
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wow 305 is a unique piece, dont think I ever saw a train with a cab like that though me wonders how the fireman worked in tandam with the engineer if there was that seperation .
It's called a camelback locomotive. Although, later designs were far less striking. I first found out about them in a railroad tycoon game, but never seen such an early iteration before. It really is a sight to behold.
Like that old Coffeepot Steamer, #25 looks like an old Mason built locomotive. Old Camel, I've heard about these when I was a young boy during the 1930s, but never seen one. Love the history here :-)
I do not know if you have noticed. There are a few US flags hidden in the video. But they are so subtly placed that they are easy to miss.
You have a timestamp maybe..?
what a treat...thank you
Amazing. Seeing a steam engine spin around on there looks so cinematic.
That was a thing of beauty!
Wonderfully balanced turntable, spinning heavy equipment with ease.
Beautiful.....simply beautiful. The collection, the turntable, everything! Just one question: #305, what type/make/model is that locomotive?
It is called a "camelback"
Just Amazing I will have to visit this place some day
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Beautiful video! Question. Who built the 505 and what was the design used for? I've never seen a cab built on top of a boiler. Interesting.
+Mike Prell Thanks! www.borail.org/davis-camel.aspx
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Been there twice! Cool to see it working!
Amazing Work.
That center cab make me want to visit. Strange engine.
I love this museum.
How amazingly balanced!
Wonderful video! Thank you.
Could these guys not have moved the locomotive themsleves?
(I would much rather use my own muscles and not have rubber tires damaging that nice floor.)
Did they first lubricate the cylinder walls so the pistons do not score them?
Very cool place. Thanks for sharing.
Your welcome.
Looks like that tractor belongs in a museum as well.
Love seeing steam loco's.
wow....great video!!!
Awesome video! Just subscribed!
really spectacular showroom
BEAUTIFUL
Great video
That 4-4-0 looked big until it got dwarfed by a switcher...
When my father rode the rails in the '20s, B&O stood for "Bums Only".
Incredible
Nice video .Enjoy it thanks
Well, being a museum that is one heck of a turntable, pretty and pretty hard to keep clean. Grew up in Barrington IL the CNW and EJ&E crossed there. My father worked the "J" At ten years old I would go to the tower and toss switches on direction from the rr man ONLY... End of day would find me at the turntable other side of the depot, the guys knew me and dad and let me hook up the air engine on the table and turn the engine myself... Boy, I wish had a camera back then..
Looks like a nice place to visit and work.
Really Cool Stuff... History is great.
That dude doin all the hardyards .. Driving the tractor cleanin the floor .
Amazing.
The William Mason played The General in the Disney movie, "The Great Locomotive Chase."
Real men playing with real trains! We’re are you all located?
Very cool!!!!
Which part of the video are you talking about?
that actually works! so insane!
Awesome 👍
Pretty awesome.