Logic Pro for iPad | AUv3 Power & MIDI | haQ attaQ
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- Опубліковано 23 чер 2024
- This is how you power up Logic Pro for iPad with AUv3 plug-ins, record and process MIDI and use Audio FX to pump up your tracks.
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LOGIC PRO (IPAD) ► apps.apple.com/app/logic-pro-...
MOOG MODEL D ► apps.apple.com/app/minimoog-m...
MOOG MODEL 15 ► apps.apple.com/app/model-15-m...
ANIMOOG Z ► apps.apple.com/app/animoog-z-...
👨💻 HARDWARE LINKS
MOOG MAVIS ► www.moogmusic.com/products/mavis
TEENAGE ENGINEERING TX-6 ► teenage.engineering/products/...
⏰ TIME STAMPS
0:37 AUv3 Instruments
4:25 AUv3 parameters & MIDI processing
10:47 MPE Keyboard Setup
12:30 MIDI Pro-Tips
14:16 MIDI Controller Mapping?
16:59 Automation
18:39 AUv3 as Audio FX
20:07 Audio FX Highlight
20:07 Bonus: Hardware Audio In
24:40 Btw …
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🎹 APP LINKS
LOGIC PRO (IPAD) ► apps.apple.com/app/logic-pro-for-ipad/id1615087040
MOOG MODEL D ► apps.apple.com/app/minimoog-model-d-synthesizer/id1339418001
MOOG MODEL 15 ► apps.apple.com/app/model-15-modular-synthesizer/id1041465860
ANIMOOG Z ► apps.apple.com/app/animoog-z-synthesizer/id1586841361
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🔥 MY PRESET PACK STORE
(My Patreons can download these packs without extra charge over at Patreon)
MAIN PAGE ► jakobhaq.gumroad.com/
🎵 MY MUSIC
DISCOGRAPHY ► hyperfollow.com/jakobhaq
👨💻 HARDWARE LINKS
MOOG MAVIS ► www.moogmusic.com/products/mavis
TEENAGE ENGINEERING TX-6 ► teenage.engineering/products/tx-6
⏰ TIME STAMPS
0:37 AUv3 Instruments
4:25 AUv3 parameters & MIDI processing
10:47 MPE Keyboard Setup
12:30 MIDI Pro-Tips
14:16 MIDI Controller Mapping?
16:59 Automation
18:39 AUv3 as Audio FX
20:07 Audio FX Highlight
20:07 Bonus: Hardware Audio In
24:40 Btw …
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This is the best ”getting starter with Logic Pro on the iPad”-tutorial on UA-cam at the moment. Thanks Jakob!
Aw, thank you!
I absolutely love Logic Pro so far. I've been stuck in AUM and Drambo for so long because I don't like any of the DAWs we've had available. Logic is fast enough to work in that I can actually get some stuff going right away. Love the flexible UI. Step sequencer is really cool. The drum rack thing is super flexible. Good stuff!
Love this video, please more videos about Logic Pro!
Thank you Jakob. ❤
Thanks for watching dude! 👊
🤯 just when I thought Logic for iPad is not kicking it you proved me wrong. This is nuts! Well done Jakob!
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@@JakobHaqGreat video. Are you still using Cubasis primarily ?
Great topic. Great collab with Moog. Love their stuff. Bring on the Moogerfoogers now!!!
I agree, we bring on the Foogers!
Thanks as always for cutting through the complexity to make things approachable, practical and useful. Keep up the great work, Jakob. 😊
I’m happy you found the video useful. There’s so much stuff in Logic Pro that I completely understand how people can get overwhelmed. Even I was many times while making this video and I’ve only really been looking at AUv3 and MIDI so far. 😅
I started using iOS music production as my main platform in my home studio in 2015. Jakob was with the Sound Test Room when it was a collective. When I saw links for the Haq Attaq videos I was a subscriber & big fan right away.
I say this because since the iPad version of Logic Pro was announced the hype train left the station quickly. The AudioBus forum, still the de facto forum for iOS music producers, was palpably excited that Apple really did what so many had hoped for: bring Logic to the iPad.
What I appreciate about Jakob and his videos on Logic so far is the steady & cautious tone they have. Instead of proclaiming iPadOS's Logic Pro as the only DAW we need now (as some have), Jakob has treated Logic as it should be: it's another tool to aid in iOS music production not the second coming.
I like Logic Pro on iPad a lot, but I will still use Cubasis and the other apps (sadly Auria Pro seems like abandonware at this point) that I've always used. Because Logic is still in its infancy a measured & realistic approach is the way to go in my view. Thank You Jakob for keeping your feet on the ground and producing such an insightful episode. Cheers.
Hell yeah! Those tracks sound great! I also love to see Moog supporting creators.
Thanks man! Yeah I agree, its seeing big well-known hardware companies support smaller creators on UA-cam.
That tip on how to search for an instrument was excellent! It was my biggest problem
finally an informative demo/tutorial of this app on youtube. now i can confidently cry myself to sleep knowing what im missing out. Great video as always.👍🏾
Thank you Jakob!
amazing vid!!!
Great Video ! Now I need to get a newer iPad so I can try out logic. Looks like a great DAW
Man you're hosting this as tight and precisely as it can be ! You give the "one by one" details other host's mostly forget. Voice sound & timing are zenmusic on its own 👍🏼✌🏼.@ 10:00 starts a good sounding demo, Moog made a good choice on you, 'cause you're "The Synth Professor".
Well done Sir!
Great vid! You’re the best!
it was very helpful Jacob! Thank you
GREAT VIDEO!!!
Very informative video Jakob thanks for putting it out there.😊
My pleasure. Thank you for watching! 👊
🐐. So many tips
Will be buying this. When they announce a 27” iPad.
Thaaaaaank youuuuu Kubo!
Thanks Jacob, I learnt a lot 👍😊
My pleasure!
I have reallly enjoyed my time with LP on my ipad and have been writing on it for a couple of years now.
I have decided that its not going to become another of my many subscriptions though. The truth is, i now only do music as a hobby these days and have a full time job, which means that i might not even write for a couple of weeks. It totally has a place for those making a living out of it though.
If the big name companies such as NI ever get on board, i may revisit but will be sticking with GB for now as it covers 90 percent of my needs.
Although i love Chromaverb and many of the other stock plugins. The truth is that i have many third party plugs that cover all the basis many times over and that are extremely high quality.
Will be interested to see how it develops and this was a great overview. 👍
Another GREAT straight to the point video from jakob & from me you got three thumbs up!😊
This is one of my favorite vids you’ve done recently for sure. I’ve been a CB and AUM user since their first versions and I gotta say that Logic is a fresh breath for me. It had completely exceeded my hopes for what it would be. I’ve also been a desktop Logic guy since e-magic and for me, the iPad version is way, way more fun. I’m not really sure how much use CB3 will be getting from me anymore? I love it but I really love this! Thanks for this video. It is top notch and completely useful.
Great video! And lots of love for Moog, I adore their apps! They are all amazing and I hope there will be something new in the future 😍
New Moog app day is always a good day and I like having good days!
@@JakobHaq Oh yes, let’s hope it will be soon
Thank you!
I can tell you are in a good moog, Jakob!
Logic Pro on iPad brought me back to mobile music producing! I love it so much and am looking forward to your videos on the topic
Thank you
Tack Jakob! Mycket matnyttigt den här gången :D Nu ska jag fingra lite ...
Ha så kul! ☀️
Cool you got serious sponsor , congratz ! I like how you just by your hard work and suberb content growing your channel to be more and more accepted ! Keep going !
Btw chiptune with Model D that was probably most unexpected way how to use Model D ever tried by anybody on this planet 😂 Very creative !
Jakob that was epic-PLEASE do some more live model15 patching!
Nice video
Thank you!
Wow. Sponsorship from Moog. You're on the move, man!
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Jakob, We need a full master class on iPad Logic. Apple should hire and pay you well. All the other people posting videos here seem to be complete noobs. I mean like they have never used a DAW of any kind and are not creative musicians.
Regarding your comment about MIDI mapping the transport controls. Logic for iPad (and iMac) has many keyboard shortcuts. If you have an Apple Magic ( or other keyboard) connected to your iMac you can use:
Spacebar to start/stop playback
R to record
E to open the piano roll editor
X to toggle the Mixer
A complete explanation of all keyboard shortcuts starts on page 350 of the Logic for iPad manual…
I’m converting all my incomplete iPad projects to Logic, switching to this amazing daw for everything. Gadget was painless, but other daws without midi export might take a while. Anyone have any tips for getting midi and stems out of Drambo, Groovebox, GR-16 or Electribe Wave?
❤ goes out to the Asheville Moog Community.
(Sort of knew that 49% was going to be problematic.)
There's a little symbol by the record button, it looks like an "I", that toggles input monitoring
Ah, Thanks!! 👊
How are you liking your Mavis? You inspired me to get one, I’ve only had it a few days but I love it. I have a roland SE-02 but the filter is not the same and I wasn’t ready for that. I dont know the right word to d3scribe it but i guess it sounds dirty but still buttery smooth at the same time. I cant wait to connect the the mavis to the se-02 together to give that wavefolder some more waves (filtered even, yay) to feed to the wavefolder. am i crazy for thinking that if you crank the volume on the mavis it gives it some overdrive? its seems to add a little dirt to it is what im hearing. I ❤ this synth and cant wait until I can drop it in a 120ish hp case and find some good analog modules for it to make a family with. lol. Also picked up the roland s-1 too at the same time and I love it just as much, they’re getting really good at making digital synths. I wish I had the scratch for a TE mixer like yours but I’m tapped out I need to pay down this stuff first, I’m still paying off my model 12 I really wish I would have waited though, I have 5 compact/boutique synths including the volca drum, and a friend told me he’s sending over his volca bass…. so it would be so nice to have that mixer. I want to watch videos about it again if I remember right it has many advanced capabilities. anyway thanks and take care
Can you talk of your general setup?
Love the video! It actually has re-kindled my interest in Logic for iOS. Question: you mention a Sound Interface to connect the Mavis to the iPad...are there any budget friendly options you have come across? I have an UR22C Audio Interface with USB C capability...would that work?...Thanks for the great videos!
That interface should absolutely work. I’m using a bigger version of it in the studio (UR816C). 👍👍👍
Wow dude! What an excellent video. Take a bow! I like Mavis, she hot. Duuuuuuuuuude! X
I recommend the Mavis to anyone liking to become a modular people. It’s a very nice package and MOOG adding a waveshaper to it … brilliant move! 🐄
Hi Jakob, I've been wondering about the LUMI Keys keyboard to have an MPE/Blutooth controller for animoog z. Have you come across this yet? I haven't seen any trusted sources using it for that yet, if it works that would be great.
Jakob or Jacob as they say in France my dear fellow, this is a linger ficking brilliant video …..
All this is good. But. Why is the built-in Animoog Z keyboard useless for full MPE recording even with the release of Logic Pro? You have to use Wood Troller to record sound with a slide. And by the way, the Logic keyboard also works intermittently when Pitch changes. Wood Troller works well with MPE, but I would like to be able to make do with the internal resources of the same Animoog.
Guys the issue isn't prices being too low - it's adoption of the ipad as a legitimate music production tool. Jakob Haq is a name brand in this niche but he has less than 50k subscribers. The fact that he continues to make great content is amazing in itself but I'm sure that the dedication is a combination of passion and belief in the idea that music production on ipad will take off. When a developer can launch a steam game for $15 bucks and support if for 7 years while doing 50% off sales, it's a matter of numbers. If you are using Jakob's subscriber count as a projection for revenue on an app/plugin that you are creating then with Apple store taking 30%, you still have half a million dollars in revenue. That's quite good for a solo developer but not good for a team.
Maybe Logic Pro coming to the iPad will be the catalyst that increases that adoption rate and the upper limit goes from $500k at $15 a license to $5 million and everyone and their mother will be dropping plugins in the store.
With that being said, increasing prices will only deter people from buying plugins on the app store and adopting the iPad - period. Apple needs to push Logic Pro on iPad hard and EVERYONE will prosper.
As a sidenote, if apple releases a touchscreen PC to compete with the Microsoft Surface, that will be the final nail in the coffin for iPad music production. Food for thought.
Just a tiny note. I’m still making videos for the same reasons I started making videos. To share my knowledge about music making with tools I love making music with. Secondly, I really enjoy making videos, so you’re spot on when it comes to passion. However, I’ve actually never ever thought to myself “I better keep making videos so that iPad music making can take off”. 😅 It is definitely not part of the equation for me.
@@JakobHaq Thank you kindly for your response. So just to clarify, from brushing shoulders with your content, I don't doubt for a second that your channel will live on regardless of what happens to the ipad. You are an incredibly cool dude and as a guy who grew up around guitars, I think this is a cool place to learn more about synths. It's abundantly clear that your experience predates the ipad just as my experience with actual guitar amps does too. I'll go back to my helix plugin on my laptop if that day comes whenever I want the lightweight setup. Good luck on your journey sir. I'll stick around to watch it.
Do you prefer logic pro or cubasis. Is in possible to midimap in cubasis?
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Is there any way to get audio buss in this new Logic , I have apps that I still use.
Kinda wish the iPad Logic Pro could be synced to the desktop version to act as a proper mobile remote. Also create a new Logic Remote for studios where musicians iphones could be used a wireless headphone mix control.. also for punch in recording..
Is it possible to contril Transport by midi? (i.e., from an Elektron device for example)
how do i send midi to a hardware synth? i have a hub connected to ipad and also an arturia minifuse interface which has midi in and out
Do you think Logic iPad can use mcu control surface? I have an old compact daw controller (frontier alphatrack) I’d like to use. Transport control on touch screen can feel a little fiddly sometimes.
I don’t own a Mackie controller (MCU) so I haven’t been able to test. It was the first thing that crossed my mind that would, maybe, be supported. But at this point I doubt it though.
If you have the same third party plugin for both Mac and iOS will it load the plugins on both platforms? And if you have a plugin for only one platform will it convert "bake in" the effects added so you get a sonic replication on the other platform, or does that have to be done manually? Hope that makes sense...
From my quick play with Logic for iPad, yes if you have both plugins for each platform they load no problem. If you only have a plugins for 1 platform, you need to bounce the track to audio first “bake in” the effects…
@@anacrusisinthailand Thanks for the info! I’m excited that a lot of my plugins should carry across then! This might change what plugins I use on a regular basis.
@@TristanHurd it's early days for Logic on iPad I'm sure 3rd party developers will quickly make sure their AUv3 plugins support Logic, if they don't already do so. Despite people's dislike for subscriptions I'm sure Logic for iPad will be popular.
“There are many ways to set up modulation in Logic pro, I’m going to show you modulator” , yeah well I think we all figured out modulator .. can you show with other midi fx like Rozeta and external LFO fx ? Thanks !
Ok I figured out , use modifier plugin and midi learn.
Sponsored by moog. Cool
Does Logic record AU plug in knob changes if they’re done on-screen (without separate midi controllers)?
I had the problem in cubasis and other DAWs that they don’t record AUv3 controls like filter, reverb etc. it works with the cubase synths but not with third party ones like animoog or Pure Acid.
Cause I’d looove to record controls/knobs in plugins without additional hardware or midi mapping
Yes Logic Pro records knob movements. However I’m confused by your comment because so does Cubasis. You just have to activate the Read / Write commands. It’s two buttons in the upper right corner of the plugin view. Write for recording parameters and Read for playing that data back. I made a video about AUv3 automation back when they introduced it: ua-cam.com/video/swfH8WXxfVs/v-deo.html
By default it does but many plugins doesn’t work properly in logic, they do not record automation when you tweak knob inside GUI … Apple needs fix this … for example TERA PRO doesn’t work, or any of Bleass synths and so on…
@@JakobHaq omg thank you so much for your answer! Didn’t know that button exists. Amazing will try it out in both cubasis and logic
@@raysubject thanks for pointing that out. Do they work correctly in cubasis so it’s definitely a logic issue?
@@brokenbussy yes it’s logic issue .. a kinda of .. there is siggested method of implementation how plugin developers are encouraged to implement this - and them there is one whuch is not preffered in apple documentatiom … unfortunstelly from some weird resdon Apple decided to use exactly this method in Logic (they are basically ignoring their own rules) so developers who use in their plugins only preffered method needs now update their plugins to supprt slso that other one …
Or Apple should start supporting their own standards and fix this in Logic
Logic pro doesnt have its own midi learn like AUM? In AUM I hit midi learn on any app and then set the channel, turn the knob and it locks in that knobs cc. I can do a variation of the same thing in Loopy Pro and in Drambo, Logic pro for ipad doesnt do that?
I have to use the apps internal mapping? This is the most frustrating, and frankly dumb thing ever. What am I missing?
Does anyone know if the iOS FabFilter Auv3 suite runs in Logic ipad?
Can we customize (remove) unwanted Logic effects and instruments?
A year later all my fab filter bundle installed! (moogerfoogers too)
We knew you’d be even more surprised … Korg just confirmed and repaired the audio issue everyone said I was wrong about on both platforms too! So that makes TWO big predictions I was absolutely correct about logic on iPad and the audio devices not working correctly till now . Your welcome pass it on to the test room dudes! 👽✌️
Apple needs improve UI of stock plugins, it’s just horrible to scroll through many rows of uniformly
looking buttons and sliders, it’s problem especially in plugins which have more parameters (synths) - like Sculpture … It’s a pity cause Logic stock plugins sounds great but generic UI drags them down …
I smell nice? Should I be creeped out?💨😂
Maybe … 💋😂
@@JakobHaq Oh my goodness cowboy.!🔥🤠
Thanks, Jakob … but you have no idea what I smell like… 😵💫 😂
Hint: South Pacific beach … now is that good or …? 😂
It’s the best smell!
I'm about the same - I'd use it if someone paid me
I hate subscriptions... that is the only thing holding me back
I would rather have the option to buy this. Oh well.
Ordinarily I would agree with you, but $5 per month is an exceptional price for such complex software. The thing holding me back is the need to find a few hundred to upgrade my iPad!
@@PhilW222 And that ! Apple costs money.
As much as I despise subscriptions, it would take 5 yrs to fill up the $300 tag in the Mac store. On the contrary, this isn't the same as the Mac varient.
Yeah. The price of the subscription is good. So, if I was a music producer and I was sure to use this program every month, or even just most of the time in the coming years, then this subscription would make a lot of sense.
But I am not a music producer. I am a hobbyist. There are times when I would use this program, and at other times I won’t.
Now, I could of course cancel my subscription when I don’t use the program, and simply subscribe again when I do. But there lies the problem: I don’t know when I will use the program and when I won’t. I would use it when I have the time and “feel like it”. It’s a hobby. It is not something that I plan out. And I don’t think that I can change my mind daily on whether I am subscribed or not.
Also, I would only remember to unsubscribe when I actually think about this program. And that typically only happens when I think about making music … so, when I actually think about using it again. So, I would constantly miss the opportunity to unsubscribe.
Of course I could just stay subscribed. It’s only $5 per month, not much, right? But then again, I already do that with Amazon Prime Video. And how often do I use it? 2 months per year, at most, to watch Mrs. Maisel. So I already have a service that by itself doesn’t cost the world, but that I rarely use and yet pay for every month. And it adds up. Staying subscribed to Logic Pro would add a second service. Adding a Final Cut Pro X subscription would add a third service. (I sometimes edit holiday videos.) And when others make their software subscription-only, that would add more small monthly payments.
If I paid a small subscription for, say, a quarter of the software on my iPad, then I would easily pay somewhere between 150 to 300 dollars per month, every month. There are only about 10 programs that I really use every day. I use most of the programs only occasionally, and then sometimes a whole bunch of them (music software) intensively for a few weeks.
So, I would need some program that handles all these subscriptions and automatically unsubscribes me every month … and automatically subscribes me again when I actually start using one of these programs.
Which brings me to a pay-per-use model. If I could just pay a few cents for every hour that I use Logic Pro, that would actually be far more convenient for me. Yet, what I don’t like about this is that it requires surveillance. Something on my iPad needs to measure “how much” I use the program. And does it count if I just leave the program open but don’t do anything? Suddenly, I am on a timer. Paid time. Studio rental. And that also doesn’t gel well with all this being a hobby: quality leisure time, essentially, without time pressures or surveillance.
And that is why I strongly prefer to buy software. The current version, including bug fixes, security fixes and compatibility fixes for the next few versions of iPadOS. And a discounted option to upgrade to the next version. Or even to extend support. Because then I can calculate the cost upfront, against the money that I have available. And when I believe I need the upgrade, then I will buy it. (And I do: for example, I have bought all Fabfilter version upgrades, sometimes even before they added an upgrade option to the App Store. They are just so compelling and good. Same for Cubasis. For a number of other software upgrades I have done the same, and would do it again: Klevgrand, Eventide, Bram Bos, Virsynth, Kymatica (AUM), … just to name a few, there are more.)
That is another reason why I don’t like subscriptions: the incentive for developers to actually improve something in the next version is not so high. Developers do not actually get paid for improvements any more, there is simply no difference in revenue for them, so no monetary incentive. If they just continue to support the same set of features indefinitely with bug fixes, they are paid exactly the same. And if this is a company and not just an individual, then the CEO will see it this way. Of course, there is still the incentive for them to keep existing customers, and to attract new ones. But if a customer can only load existing projects while they are subscribed to the software, then there is a strong incentive on the customer side to stay subscribed … just to load older projects again. And new customers can for quite a while be convinced with ads.
This model of course doesn’t work so well when there is actual competition: some plugins compete in the same space and one could substitute another. Although they all have their own character, so I still would not want to miss them. DAWs on the other hand often cancel out competition, because exchanging projects between them is often a hassle, if not impossible (when they use certain internal plugins or special features of the DAW).
Supporting a subscription-only model for software that inherently doesn’t need to be a subscription will only make this model more attractive for developers, despite its shortcomings for customers and future improvements. And hobbyists will not be convinced or drop out at some point, so this eventually aims at professional use only. And that will make subscriptions more expensive (because of a much lower number of subscribers), and the programs will become even more exclusive. And that is yet another reason why I don’t like to support this model: I don’t think low subscription prices are sustainable (and btw, low sales prices aren’t either, and they are going up somewhat already), and it excludes certain usage patterns and a large group of potential users.
I’m still sticking with AUM and cubasis 3 on principle
Man I am trying to like Logic but they have made it soooo hard. No midi export? no ghost notes in the piano roll, some of the included sounds are just terrible. haha when I played my wife the "studio strings" here reply was...those are supposed to be strings? Right now I just don't see me using it past the trial. And besides Cubasis gives me access to way more plugins haha.
Make sure…. I love this words … 👎🏻
Your audience has been doing iOS music production for years, but Logic for iPad really targets GarageBand users looking for more in a pro app, and Logic Mac users trying out iPads. Apple hopes Logic and FCP for iPad will drive iPad hardware sales. So, it might be the best DAW but your audience doesn’t necessarily use a DAW. 😏
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Subscription’s SUCK, i won’t be getting it
Not a fan of Logic Pro