Chinese diesel heater Don't make this big mistake!

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  • after installing a chinese diesel heater i made a couple of installation mistake. don't fall in to the same trap as i did !.
    please watch and hopefill learn,so hopefully you won't do the same.

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  • @tonycamplin8607
    @tonycamplin8607 Рік тому +96

    The main reason for using so much fuel is that you've got the unit outside and so drawing in freezing cold air into the heating unit. Put the heater inside and just have the exhaust outlet outside. These units are designed to be used inside.

    • @peggenlejoncar9529
      @peggenlejoncar9529 10 місяців тому +5

      You must have inlet and exhaust on outside for combustion camber, only heater inside which drag air from in room and pushing hot air out in room.

    • @tonycamplin8607
      @tonycamplin8607 10 місяців тому +2

      @peggenlejoncar9529 I disagree. My oil fired domestic central heating boiler for instance draws its air from inside my house and exhausts it outside. I think that they all work like this, they do in the UK anyway.

    • @nigelskinner8799
      @nigelskinner8799 9 місяців тому +1

      I'm not quite sure why you don't install the pump vertically or 90°....45° is the minimum not the optimum.

    • @snipersnightmare
      @snipersnightmare 8 місяців тому +3

      Then you get fumes going inside throught the air intake when get e6 error and it shuts off

    • @tonycamplin8607
      @tonycamplin8607 8 місяців тому

      @@snipersnightmare As I said previously all domestic oil fried boilers that I know of draw air from inside and only the exhaust is exited outdoors. They're designed to fail safe.

  • @davidsteele3037
    @davidsteele3037 Рік тому +13

    The guru for Chinese heaters is John McK 47. His videos are a must watch if you have problems. He says you can have the pump vertical but not upside down. Flat out you'll use 360ml per hour.

  • @steveclark..
    @steveclark.. Рік тому +50

    Not many people admit or show their mistakes, hat's off to you.

  • @tricks1515
    @tricks1515 Рік тому +23

    Recirculate the air from inside . Fit another vent so it can draw air from the room back through the heater . Warming warm air then 👍

    • @robertberin4872
      @robertberin4872 Рік тому

      what size hose did you use for the inlet? Its not 3 inches like the outlet.

  • @drfoster3753
    @drfoster3753 Рік тому +11

    Bought one of these things 2 years ago,
    Not rocket science to set up ,
    Worked well ,heated my small shed very well.
    Then i moved it go another part of the shed ,
    ironically because the exhaust was near the door, and i thought I might gas myself.
    Long story short,
    Because I'd already set it up and ran it , I just undid the exhaust pipe , ,
    and fed it through the wall from the outside ,
    Then I connected it to the heater,
    and went away to finish the job the next day,
    Totally forgot to tighten the clamp on the pipe and started running the heater.
    Over the next few days
    I started getting very tired , then I started getting dizzy and forgetful,,
    Then about 3 weeks after I first fitted the heater
    I went to bed one night ,and woke up in A and E, after having a massive fit in my sleep.
    I've since been told im epileptic,
    Just a simple mistake, my fault totally, not blaming anyone but myself,
    Nearly cost me my life.
    Take care .

    • @wilwert1746
      @wilwert1746 Рік тому

      Right think safety even over heat.too many die from shortcuts.

    • @bigoldgrizzly
      @bigoldgrizzly Рік тому +1

      Thanks for the posting mate and sorry to hear your troubles - your post could save someone else [or their family] serious grief.
      One thing absobloodylutely essential for everyone who has any bit of equipment where combustion is involved, get a Carbon Monoxide detector / alarm - they are only 20 Quid or so and that's three parts of four fifths of f*ck all to spend, when it could save your life.
      For around forty quid you can get a CO meter with readout in parts per million and these are great for making fuel/air adjustments that will really get your heater running at top efficiency and fuel savings should pay for itself in the first winter of running.
      All the fuel savings you could make using these brilliant little heaters ain't enough to pay for your funeral - be safe and get a detector/alarm.

  • @juliogonzo2718
    @juliogonzo2718 Рік тому +45

    That press was a little under powered for that bracket. I recommend at least a 50t press for that.

    • @llordjacksonbuzzthedog.4845
      @llordjacksonbuzzthedog.4845  Рік тому

      Controlled pressing 😉😉

    • @michellecronin7480
      @michellecronin7480 Рік тому +3

      He also butters he's bread with a sword!

    • @chrismutlow1
      @chrismutlow1 Рік тому +2

      Omg I always use hammer. That’s here I’ve be going wrong lol

    • @tracygeddes5867
      @tracygeddes5867 Рік тому +2

      @@2hotscottpro great answer,couldn’t stop laughing,but with him,not at him ,great video!

    • @gewild
      @gewild Рік тому

      @@tracygeddes5867 m

  • @gizmo1252000
    @gizmo1252000 10 місяців тому +2

    i luckily managed to buy a Chinese diesel heater off a guy that had lived in china ,he worked there as a English teacher ,and he bought a heater while over there , the one i got was specifically made for the Chinese market . seems to be better made ,and strangely it has 8 heat settings on it . which makes it very fuel efficient . even the fuel lines where the solid ,harder lines that most people had to upgrade to . it,s worked perfectly since i,ve had it ,that,s about 18 months now . on the lowest setting it,s so quiet . here,s a tip for you ,i know this will sound strange ,but get a small fan and run it on low ,and put it somewhere where the heat from the heater main heat pipe points to. ,then angle the fan to a space where heat does,nt reach and it will blow the hot air even further into the space . i found it speeds up the heating of an area .weird i know ,but it works .

  • @daveadams4109
    @daveadams4109 Рік тому +11

    It best to mount fuel pump on a rubber a.v mount to cut down the sound and more importantly the vibration. The air intake needs to be piped from the inside ,this will improve efficiency by 50%

  • @TheArtisticGardener777
    @TheArtisticGardener777 Рік тому +26

    You’ve got the exhaust pumping out carbon monoxide in the same space as the cold air intake thus pumping it into the heated space. Seems extremely risky not to mention inefficient. I believe the unit is designed to be placed inside the heated space while the exhaust is piped to the outside.

    • @nitrosrt4
      @nitrosrt4 Рік тому +3

      yes, this right here, put the whole thing inside it will be much more effecient, might even point a fan at the whole thing too it gets hot when its on for a while and heating already warm air is easier than always cold air, just run the burner exhaust outside.

    • @dr650dude
      @dr650dude Рік тому +2

      exactly...

    • @mikeakerstrom1667
      @mikeakerstrom1667 Рік тому

      The intake and exhaust both go outside, as they should. The heated air is drawn from inside and is completely separate from intake & exhaust

    • @capncol
      @capncol Рік тому

      @@mikeakerstrom1667 the air intake is at the left hand end of the unit, so it is possible to draw exhaust fumes in to the air intake

    • @capncol
      @capncol Рік тому

      @@mikeakerstrom1667 the air intake is at the left hand end of the unit, so it is possible to draw exhaust fumes in to the air intake

  • @zenzen9131
    @zenzen9131 Рік тому +19

    Personally I would move the unit inside the heated area with just the exhaust pipe coming through the wall to the outside. This would then have warmer air coming into unit and not freezing cold air from outside making it more efficient.

    • @redauwg911
      @redauwg911 Рік тому +2

      yeah exactly it's all hooked up wrong. This is the correct way- You tube John McK 47

    • @davidfletcher1156
      @davidfletcher1156 Рік тому +1

      But what if the exhaust leaks in the property 🤔

    • @zenzen9131
      @zenzen9131 Рік тому +1

      @@davidfletcher1156 very good point. I'd be running a CO detector closeby

    • @redauwg911
      @redauwg911 Рік тому

      @@davidfletcher1156 Then you did not install properly.

    • @davidfletcher1156
      @davidfletcher1156 Рік тому

      @redauwg911 please explain why as part of the exhaust will always be in the property and exhaust can deteriate over time so its clearly a risk

  • @neilblake9793
    @neilblake9793 Рік тому +6

    the big problem I had was the exhaust leaking on the joints solved it by using an exhaust sealer on the joints. any car part shop will have it for around £3 a tub .started to get a head ak after 1 hour of running the heater. put a co2 in workshop and was read high

  • @cptcosmo
    @cptcosmo 11 місяців тому +5

    I'm using one of these heaters to heat my 600 square foot condo. I run the exhaust pipe out a window, seal the gaps (I use fireproof rockwool batt to surround the exhaust pipe). Last winter I used about 5 gallons US #2 Diesel per week to heat my home... far less expensive than heating with electric heat, which used to be my only source of heat. One thing I have noticed, these little heaters tend to coke up the combustion chamber if run at the low settings for long periods.

  • @Bryan-Hensley
    @Bryan-Hensley Рік тому +16

    If you have any more issues with the fuel flow, those pumps aren't good at sucking, you might need to lift the tank up closer to the pump or the pump closer to the tank. I agree with the others, you need the cold air intake plumbed inside too. It's easier to heat the room air vs outside air. You could also pull in the exhaust fumes since they are close, the way it is now..

  • @chrismutlow1
    @chrismutlow1 Рік тому +6

    Possibly the funniest video ever. I got to get a press to bend my 2.5 mm brackets. I wonder how you were goina do it lol. I always use a hammer and a block of wood. Funny as

  • @2hacksbuilding82
    @2hacksbuilding82 Рік тому +4

    Great video sir. I'm currently assembling mine and I'm glad to have this info before I decide to run it for the first time

  • @alexlee9394
    @alexlee9394 Рік тому +12

    I concur, have your air intake coming from inside your garage. Also make sure your combustion air intake is well away from the exhaust pipe and use the muffler, have the exhaust sloping downwards to allow any condensation to come out. The other thing is the fuel pump runs best at 35degrees. Where did you get those rubber connectors for your white fuel line? That leak at the fuel line going into the heater should be tight as well as all others or you will eventually run into an E8 error.

  • @oojimmyflip
    @oojimmyflip Рік тому +12

    I hope youve clamped the exhaust onto the exhsust port with some exhsust paste and routed the exhaust outside, if not run a carbon monoxide alarm in the room. For your own saftey and those around you.

    • @wilwert1746
      @wilwert1746 Рік тому +1

      Do both,safely is paramount.

  • @mntn2hi333
    @mntn2hi333 Рік тому +3

    The big mistake was watching this video of you trying to flatten the bracket.

  • @Dieseldog1
    @Dieseldog1 Рік тому +2

    freezing cold intake outside......re do so you recirculate the warmed room air and take out the risk of exhaust gas in the room, insulate intake and output, the heater is designed to be inside the area being heated...

  • @craigchamberlain
    @craigchamberlain 9 місяців тому +3

    The fuel pump can be vertical as long as it’s the right way up. In fact it’s better vertical than at 45 degrees as air can get out even easier. The big no-no is to have it horizontal or at a shallower angle than 45 degrees.
    As others have said already, you’ll get a huge efficiency improvement if you recirculate warm air rather than heating outside air all the time. Keep combustion intake and exhaust outside but have circulation intake and exhaust inside. It’s even better if you have the whole unit inside with the combustion exhaust and intake going outside because you also capture the radiated heat from the heater, but it would be noisier.

  • @pauldowninguk
    @pauldowninguk Рік тому +5

    Hi mate. Not having a go, but you need to switch it off (for your safety) and maybe watch some videos on UA-cam first. I'm new to this myself, but your install isn't safe. The exhaust gases can be sucked into the air heater inlet (then outlet to your room) which will be lethal. It needs routing outside. All the exhaust and fuel lines need Jubilee/circlips. The fuel line needs a filter before the pump. Try to run the unit off a car battery. A trickle charger can keep it topped up. Otherwise a power cut/trip will ruin the heater due to no slow power down. Good luck!

    • @SpiraSpiraSpira
      @SpiraSpiraSpira Рік тому

      The air heater inlet doesn’t exhaust air into the room being heated. It’s true with the output and input close together some exhaust products are likely being ingested, and that’s not good for efficiency, but it isn’t a safety issue. This type of heater pulls air, combusts it, and exhausts it in one loop. Then a second air loop pulls air from the room to be heated, runs it through a heat exchanger, and dumps that now-heated air into the room/area to be heated. That’s the main reason why these things are safe to be used (if installed correctly) in truck cabs, etc. There’s 2 loops for air, and never do they touch.

    • @davidfletcher1156
      @davidfletcher1156 Рік тому +3

      @@SpiraSpiraSpira I think he means the exhaust fumes are going into the same room as your clean air intake

    • @wagmiorngmi
      @wagmiorngmi Годину тому

      I just read in comments on another video that the guy is dead now from carbon monoxide poison. RIP

  • @jamesturner2126
    @jamesturner2126 Рік тому +2

    The trick to running it on other than diesel is cleanliness and heat. Strip it down, clean it completely, especially around the burn chamber and glow plug. Once it lites, you have to keep it on high so the combustion fan can keep it hot so even motor oil will burn.

    • @wilwert1746
      @wilwert1746 Рік тому

      Seems thinning down any heavy oils with waste diesel fuel would be wise though, and of course proper filtering

  • @DirectCurrent4u
    @DirectCurrent4u Рік тому +4

    I think the 50 ton Press to bend a sheet metal bracket was the fatal mistake! But it was very entertaining. ⚡👍

    • @paullynch1938
      @paullynch1938 Рік тому +1

      Pisser mate , I thought that 😂🤣

  • @darrenwilson3905
    @darrenwilson3905 Рік тому +2

    Interesting that you think installing the pump upside down is a fatal error, yet you've installed the exhaust without a clamp and are drawing the air for heating from the same space. Carbon Monoxide poisoning can be fatal too.

    • @cfcyayaya
      @cfcyayaya 10 місяців тому

      Yes, this is a more serious mistake than the fuel pump installed up side down. We spotted. When the heater starts, the workshop must be filled with diesel fume. Even at steady state, the amount of carbon monoxide is not zero. The heater was designed to be used inside a caravan. The separation of breathing air and burning air must mimic that of a caravan.

  • @jamesturner2126
    @jamesturner2126 Рік тому +1

    I was sweeping up wood dust. My diesel heater sucked up the dusty air, then it was to hard to burn, it flamed out. I completely carefully disassembled it, cleaned it with acetone, heated right up. Burning 50% diesel, 25% motor oil, 25% gasoline.

  • @CraigOlove
    @CraigOlove Рік тому +2

    It has been my experience that the pump mounted at a 45* will burn up pumps, I burned up 3 pumps that way. I now mount them at 90* like you had yours only right side up. My heaters run for months at a time here in western Pennsylvania. You can tell when your pump is starting to go bad, It will start speeding up and then slow down it gets quite bothersome . I can't sleep listening to it speed up slow down. I like mine nice and steady. I think they tell you to mount them at 45* to sell more pumps. They are made of not the best steel. Unlike my Webasto's the pumps work any way you want, They are made really well and are expensive I have some from the 90's that are still ticking away. Cheers..

    • @donalbershardt9290
      @donalbershardt9290 Рік тому

      WHY not use, a 12v Remote Pump with a Regulator.. DONE Problem Solved 👍✌️

  • @solayluna
    @solayluna Рік тому +3

    The pump is lubricated by the fuel by providing the angle it ensures fuel from the start eliminating pumping dry...

  • @kevinbeer6958
    @kevinbeer6958 Рік тому +1

    Another error why are you taking cold air from outside? If you recirculate the air from inside it will be possibly 30% more efficient

  • @shootingsportstransparency7461

    I think you bought an illegal UK copy of a genuine original Chinese heater

  • @electroshed
    @electroshed Рік тому +3

    Definitely connect up a return air vent from the room to the unit, as, at the moment, you're heating 100% outside air at say zero degrees, you'll only get the max temp rise out of the unit say 15 degrees, the room will never reach a cosy 20 let's say. You want it to reheat the air that's already been warmed from the room for best effect :)

    • @Yii00T
      @Yii00T Рік тому +2

      Will also stop sucking in exhaust gasses as well then.

    • @robertberin4872
      @robertberin4872 Рік тому

      what size hose did u use for the inlet?

    • @electroshed
      @electroshed Рік тому

      @@robertberin4872 ideally a little larger than the outlet hose, larger diameter hoses = slower moving air = lower resistance and in some cases lower noise

  • @ElarMack-ci1of
    @ElarMack-ci1of 6 місяців тому +2

    Those pumps DO NOT HAVE A SELF VENTING AIR BLEED. It can only pump through itself and PURGE. How on Earth did you get the pump fitted UPSIDE DOWN and NOT on a 45 degree angle as IS IN THE MANUAL. OH that is right, blokes only read the manual AFTER PROBLEMS.

  • @A.S.K.1
    @A.S.K.1 Рік тому +2

    The combustion air intake and exhaust are outside, as they should be.
    BUT: The *FRESH* air intake is not far above the exhaust: so it could pull in (CO laden) exhaust gases and send them inside the building.
    This could be a real *"FATAL"* error... as in it can efficiently, silently, kill you.
    The FRESH air intake needs to be completely separated from the exhaust... preferably in the same area that is being heated so it can re-warm already warmed air - much more efficient, also.
    Also you still seem to have a diesel leak..that can contribute to your usage - not to mention if it hits the usually VERY hot exhaust pipe, it could ignite... not something you want to happen, either.

  • @jbigroup5070
    @jbigroup5070 Рік тому +4

    Also i would take the air from the room to pass through the heater and back in, if you are always taking in very cold air from outside you will be losing energy. By taking the warm air from the room and passing it again through the heater it will heat the room quicker.
    It would be like switching on the recirculation switch for the car vents with the AC on, the car gets much colder as it takes the cold air from the interior and passes it back through the AC then back in again.

  • @randombanditdad3754
    @randombanditdad3754 Рік тому +2

    You made that easy bracket bending into right long job lol

    • @bigoldgrizzly
      @bigoldgrizzly Рік тому

      that could forever change the saying "using a sledge hammer to break a nut" !

  • @SchwaAlien
    @SchwaAlien Рік тому +8

    You can also calibrate the heaters so that they only use as much fuel as needed to generate the correct amount of heat rather than the default of too much which will make a more dirty exhaust and need to be cleaned more often, and usually the fan’s low speed is too low to move much air, so it’ll have a more useful range when you go to turn it down, once calibrated.

    • @zaprodk
      @zaprodk Рік тому +4

      So how do you calibrate this?

    • @brandonthatcher7781
      @brandonthatcher7781 10 місяців тому +3

      @@zaprodk Hes got no idea. Just saying something he saw somewhere else..

    • @danyf3116
      @danyf3116 10 місяців тому

      @@zaprodk ua-cam.com/video/SmCYQu53umk/v-deo.html

    • @bradbair1405
      @bradbair1405 7 місяців тому

      ​@zaprodk you calibrate through the touch screen. You can turn the hertz up and down for fuel flow depending on what type of fuel being used. I believe I've seen 4 to 4.5 hertz for diesel and 3.5 to 4 hertz for kerosene.

  • @ItsAllJustBollox
    @ItsAllJustBollox 9 місяців тому +1

    Watching you using a press on a tiny bracket you could easily bend by hand was hilarious. 😂

  • @Lee-70ish
    @Lee-70ish Рік тому +4

    Thanks for the info.
    From what I gather these are great in RVs and vans but not effective in work shops or garages as they cant heat large areas .
    Its a shame as i have a double garage/workshop that I'd like to use in the winter, but i think I'd need a proper diesel space heater that pumps out at least 15- 20 kw

    • @AnnaVannieuwenhuyse
      @AnnaVannieuwenhuyse Рік тому

      a heat pump could do you good there! Heating in the winter, cooling in the summer.

    • @samdub
      @samdub Рік тому +2

      You’d be surprised you know. Obviously if the garage has openings around the door etc it wouldn’t hold heat but these things ticking over for a few hours can heat up or at the very least take the chill off quite a large area! Mines currently outside my house (which I’m thinking about changing to inside) and it’ll keep my whole downstairs at around 19 without having to boost the heating all the time! (Older house with fuck all insulation)

    • @svenlarsen4876
      @svenlarsen4876 7 місяців тому

      Mine heat's a 3bed semi det house on lowest heat setting

  • @4x4smile
    @4x4smile 10 місяців тому +1

    Warning Carbon monoxide poisoning from exhaust and inlet to blower being in same area. Duct the intake side of the heater into the room to stop, it will also be way more efficent. At the moment you are blowing cold exhaust contaminated air into the room.

  • @kigerkarlzeberedi1800
    @kigerkarlzeberedi1800 Рік тому

    I bought a Chinese diesel heater for the first time about 4 years ago" I've bought 3 since then" they last about a year before the bearings start to squeak from pretty continuous running' a lot of the time on low" thats were my issue tonight was as i was watching the videos' on white smoke my d heater started to spew white smoke' i thought there was a new pope". I haven't ran it hot for months and i figured from my considerable experience that I had some build up that needed to be hot burned and a quick general ⛑ ⛑ maintenance' so i ran it full blast and it musta cooked the chamber" I went outside and straighten the exhaust pipe straight down and went back inside and started the heater it was still blowing white smoke and then what sounded like half a gunshot went off and couple of ounces of Black soot fell onto the ground and the Heater ran perfectly. Sure glad i straightened that exhaust pipe and burned the chamber or i wouldn't be having a merry Burrrrr Christmas. 1995 Thor 32 ft M

  • @PainterD54
    @PainterD54 7 місяців тому

    You should have a cold air return from inside that room to go thru the unit and then back into the room with re-heated air. You are actually heating cold air and pumping it into a room. You need to make a continuous loop to properly heat a room.

  • @rocketman702
    @rocketman702 Рік тому +1

    Gravity feed the fuel and take the load off the pump, Don't ever use that press again that way to flatten a pissy little bracket. And recirculate the warm room air back through the intake of the heater..

  • @dr_jaymz
    @dr_jaymz Рік тому +7

    I worry about these exhausts being too close to the cold air inlet. It will actively suck combustion products into it and into the workshop. When you pipe workshop air back out to the air intake that will help keep the two circuits isolated.

    • @SpiraSpiraSpira
      @SpiraSpiraSpira Рік тому

      This isn’t how this type of heater works. This heater has 2 inputs for air. The first one is the input that gets combusted, then exhausted. These are generally both from outside. A second input takes air from inside the area being heated, runs that air over a heat exchanger and outputs it in the room to be heated. That’s what the fan is doing/why it needs electricity. So even if the input air that you’re talking about takes a little bit of combustion products, it will be exhausted right back outside without anything entering the room if he installed it correctly.

    • @wilwert1746
      @wilwert1746 Рік тому +1

      Only difficult part is control setup. Instructions are junk.

    • @wilwert1746
      @wilwert1746 Рік тому

      I haven't found any control panel wiring extenders, did you cut and splice?.I'm cautious to try it yet.

  • @putbinoot
    @putbinoot Рік тому +3

    Should have a fuel filter in the kit to protect the pump.

  • @fredfred2363
    @fredfred2363 Рік тому +3

    Here's more info on fuels I've tried in the UK spec Vevo 5kW unit, with stock settings (with the controller-new type, late 2022, without the antenna signal indicator):
    Best fuel, most heat, Kerosene=heating oil=jetA1=paraffin
    Diesel, red or standard next best
    Brake fluid, DOT3 diluted with 10% petrol next best
    Old dirty engine oil diluted 20% with unleaded petrol next best
    Transmission fluid/old gearbox oil diluted with 10% petrol next (but smelly)
    Old gunwash thinners with 10% old engine oil to give it some lube properties not very good
    Old petrol with 10% old engine oil, also not very good.
    Acetone, brake and clutch cleaner (trichloroethylene- don't breath the smoke at all) or alcohol/meths don't really work at all.
    With all of the hydrocarbons, it is pretty obvious that there is way too much air running through the combustion chamber, because the exhaust pipe gets really hot (wasted heat). The combustion gas is being pushed straight out of the heat exchanger. If you choke the combustion air inlet a little, while still maintaining a lean and clean burn (at max fan speed), the exhaust temp drops while the heat exchanger actually gets a lot hotter. More time for the hot combustion gases to transfer the heat into the heat sink, as the burning gas is moving slower.
    Oh and throw away the little fuel filter they supply, as it doesn't filter anything! Get a proper fuel filter...
    If anyone knows how to crack advanced settings on the new controller unit (without antenna signal indicator), please post! 👍🏻😀🇬🇧

    • @wilwert1746
      @wilwert1746 Рік тому

      Speaking of which, what,exactly is the purpose of the connectivity, I can't find an app for this and instructions are sparse with controller settings

  • @TheBioniXman
    @TheBioniXman Рік тому +1

    Interesting video, good job that it is on youtube though, we can fast forward the 3 minutes of flattening a bit of metal!

  • @pixels303at-odysee9
    @pixels303at-odysee9 Рік тому +1

    I wanted to install one of these bad boys for my bunk in my RV. There is no heating in that area for some strange reason, so even if I turn on the heat, it is chilly sleeping in the bunk. Diesel is easier to obtain than propane and does throw more heat per volume. You could easily have a small slip tank filled up (100+ liters) and it should last a long time between fills.

    • @wilwert1746
      @wilwert1746 Рік тому

      I'm planning on tapping a boat fuel tank for run time and safer fueling (heater inside,tank outside)

    • @pixels303at-odysee9
      @pixels303at-odysee9 Рік тому

      @@wilwert1746 those boat tanks are nice. You can also use plastic tanks used for farm grain belts or augers.

    • @Bryan-Hensley
      @Bryan-Hensley Рік тому

      These things will heat your entire RV. I'll probably be overkill for a bunk

  • @66reeves
    @66reeves Рік тому +1

    Mission impossible theme would have set the mood for the job

  • @julioposada7752
    @julioposada7752 11 місяців тому +1

    Watching you use a hydraulic press to flatten that bracket gave me permanent anxiety 😂😂😂.

  • @johnmorrison9072
    @johnmorrison9072 Рік тому +1

    Max 45 degrees down to about 30 degrees is the sweet spot 👍

  • @michaelmccotter4293
    @michaelmccotter4293 6 місяців тому

    I'd also consider moving the pump away from the hot exhaust.
    Anchorage, Alaska

  • @paulbeddows6014
    @paulbeddows6014 6 місяців тому

    Tank and pump should be above the heater not below it the pump only meters the fuel it does not pressurise it. Air intake and exhaust are the only things that need venting to the outside air, hot air intake and outlet stay in the room. If you have the burner air intake inside it causes negative air pressure and removes your heated air and pumps it out side.

  • @kevinszulinszky6245
    @kevinszulinszky6245 4 місяці тому

    I believe your fuel is supposed to be mounted above the heater as well as the 30-45 degree tilt of pump...mayhaps that could also be the cause?

  • @gregkelmis2435
    @gregkelmis2435 11 місяців тому

    Unit should be inside Paul outside air for combustion and exhaust outside but the unit itself should be inside much more efficient your heating, whatever the outside air temperature is ambient air temperature up to room temperature to put it inside the heat way more fuel consumption depending on the temperature, you can before five times more fuel at sub zero

  • @prabhgunnsingh7357
    @prabhgunnsingh7357 Рік тому +1

    Pl try putting Fuel Tank at same height as the heater. The flow of diesel will be easy.May be that improve your heater,as you say it take 5 ltr.diesel in 8 hours. I see a video where guy check the average to be 0.14 ltr./ hour. I buy my heater after checking that video.

    • @GoldenCroc
      @GoldenCroc Рік тому

      0.14 l/h isnt at full (5kw) tilt, no way. Maybe at 1.5-2kw output or so.

  • @peterlumper5376
    @peterlumper5376 Рік тому +5

    think I would have just stood on the right angle bracket tbh 😄

    • @paullynch1938
      @paullynch1938 Рік тому

      No mate you need a 50 ton press, what a pisser

  • @pauls466
    @pauls466 11 місяців тому +1

    that is a big area to heat , so don't think you can use like 3 liter a 24 hour

  • @garycote6129
    @garycote6129 Рік тому +2

    Allot of faffing about to straighten that bracket out. Bench vice, BFH, 10 seconds… sorted ha, ha, ha.

  • @PeterJavea
    @PeterJavea Рік тому

    The fuel usage is mathematical
    Each impulse of the pump moves 0.02ml of fuel. No more. No less.
    Mine has 5 settings "H1,2,3,4,5. Etc
    Here's the maths
    Fuel usage
    H1 2.0/sec = 120/min = 144 ml/h
    H2 2.6/sec = 156/min = 187 ml/h
    H3 3.4/sec = 204/min = 245 ml/h
    H4 4.0/sec = 240/min = 288 ml/h
    H5 5.0/sec = 300/min = 360 ml/h
    That's what my "8kw all in one unit", uses.
    It was designed in the 1930's for caravans, trucker cabs at night, boats, my garden cabin, etc...
    Not really for homes, although many do warm a simple room really nicely with it. (Not the whole house, as some think)
    It's 5kw. No more...
    I am over the moon about mine by its efficiency, simplicity and serviceability.
    I hope this helps

  • @martinbridgland149
    @martinbridgland149 Рік тому +1

    also noticed that you are running the fuel pump wrong , it's designed to be a metering pump not a flow or suction / pressure pump, every clack it's pushing 0.02 mili litre , if you look at the heater units that have an internal tank the fuel is gravity fed

  • @realeyesrealizereallies6828

    They use alot of fuel if you leave them on high or even medium, no matter if the pump is upside down or not..These are great for small insulated spaces when you can run them for half an hour and shut them off for an hour or so, or when the power goes out..A wood burner is best, then a mini split, for larger areas..

  • @charleswillis9956
    @charleswillis9956 Рік тому +2

    I would guess you don't have a vice and rubber hammer .

  • @helihead11
    @helihead11 Рік тому +1

    If you ever want some advice just make a UA-cam video of what your doing. That’s my advice.👍

  • @vinquinn
    @vinquinn 10 місяців тому +1

    Why not recirculate the inside air through the heater instead of taking in cold air from outside?

  • @trevorkingsley7002
    @trevorkingsley7002 Рік тому +1

    Having the fuel pump upside down is hardly a "fatal" mistake. However, having the combustion exhaust outlet in, what appears to be, an enclosed (dirty) area of your workshop, could well and truly be FATAL! Would you leave your car idling away in that area all day?

  • @bjrnhenrymikkelsen706
    @bjrnhenrymikkelsen706 Рік тому +3

    At full blast a 5kw heater will use about 0.5 l/hr

  • @jayrichardson6872
    @jayrichardson6872 Рік тому +2

    Sorry buddy. But everything about the installation of the heater is totally all wrong. Please watch a few videos on how to install on utube. DO NOT RUN IT AS IT IS🤔All very dangerous bud.

  • @chriskautz3245
    @chriskautz3245 10 місяців тому +1

    30 second to bent the bracket with a hammer and 4 minutes to look like a prat and use a press . Thanks for the greast laugh

  • @hughfoley1609
    @hughfoley1609 Рік тому +1

    Recirculate the air rather than heating the air from outside the room

  • @mikeakerstrom1667
    @mikeakerstrom1667 Рік тому +1

    Others who have good results (including me) have the pump fully vertical and it works properly. Some even say fully vertical is ideal. The pump just needs to be pointed at least 45 degrees up from horizontal to evacuate bubbles properly (and the pump shouldn't be backwards, of course).
    So the advice about not having the pump backward is good, but honestly whoever gave the advice about changing the angle is a bit misinformed

    • @bigoldgrizzly
      @bigoldgrizzly Рік тому +1

      Correct. When these units were copied by the Chinese from the original units they also knocked off the user instructions verbatim. In the original German heaters the pumps had an integral fuel filter built into the pump. These tended to silt up with fuel debris if they were not installed at an angle so that sludge could slide away into a cavity, so they included this recommendation in the manual.... which was promptly copied by the Chinese. The Chinese pumps do not have such a filter and are best installed vertically as this gives the best fuel delivery, though installing at an angle up to 45 deg. from vertical will not cause problems.
      Do take the time to fit an inline transparent fuel filter between the fuel tank and the pump. [car/small engine diesel filters are fine].
      When you first set up your system be sure to fully prime the fuel line and the filter with diesel before connecting to the pump inlet. If you don't do this, it will take forever for the pump to fill both line and filter at 0.02ml per stroke and, since the diesel is the only lubricant for the pump cylinder, it will be running dry all this time and suffering a lot of wear. it is also possible the pump will not actually be able to self prime.
      [I just suck it through by mouth, others may prefer to use a priming bulb]

  • @rico334
    @rico334 Рік тому +3

    Good video but you could have shaved 4 minutes off it by using a hammer instead of that press...... 😂😂

  • @martinbridgland149
    @martinbridgland149 Рік тому +1

    more of fatal mistake , the exhaust needs to go through an outside wall , the way you have it now can potentially put carbon monoxide from the exhaust sucked through the intake and into the room that you are heating , where as with the heater process it's making carbon dioxide and carbon monoxide ,to be detrimental to health with CO2 1000-15000 PPM starts to be harmful where as only 50 PPM of carbon monoxide can kill, the clacker pump instructions state a minimum of 45 degrees from the horizontal so having it vertical is preferable just pumping upwards to eliminate any air pockets as the pump is lubricated via the fuel going through it,

  • @VANFLIPPINGTASTIC
    @VANFLIPPINGTASTIC Рік тому +2

    ive tested this type of heater in a video and flat out it used 1 litre every 2.5 hours ..

  • @dougjones4538
    @dougjones4538 Рік тому +1

    So, how do you know which end of the pump is the inlet and which is the outlet? I have my pump fresh out of the box from Vevor, and there's no marking indicating direction.

  • @citic101
    @citic101 Рік тому +2

    are there english desel heaters or even german heater s ?

  • @paulbeddows6014
    @paulbeddows6014 Рік тому +1

    That's quiet a height for the pump to draw fuel from be interesting to see if the pump lasts.
    In the boxed versions there is only a matter of inches for the fuel to be drawn to the pump then the pump drains down hill as well. So you have two extra strains on the pump.

  • @PremierTinman
    @PremierTinman Рік тому +1

    Hi my new heater has came with the pump horizontally and in same direction as the mistake in the video so mounted it a 45 degree angled but there is a flow arrow pointing towards the wiring is it wrong any idears .cheers

    • @llordjacksonbuzzthedog.4845
      @llordjacksonbuzzthedog.4845  Рік тому

      Hi John thanks for the comment. As far as I understand the arrow is the direction of flow and should point 👉 towards the wire connection. However different comments on UA-cam land say the angle of the pump doesn't matter to much ...30/45/90/vertical etc. Mine is about 40-45 degrees ish ....and it's been working fine every day for over 2 months now .cheers.

  • @prabhgunnsingh7357
    @prabhgunnsingh7357 Рік тому +1

    The fuel pump is recommended bet.30 to 45degree Angle not upside down.thks

  • @thinkfirst6431
    @thinkfirst6431 Рік тому +1

    I see that you have a church pew in front of the hardness tester. Do you pray before using the hardness tester hoping that the hardness comes out OK?

    • @llordjacksonbuzzthedog.4845
      @llordjacksonbuzzthedog.4845  Рік тому

      😆 🤣 😂 😹 daily worship, thanks for watching 👀 your comment made me laugh this morning. 😄

  • @garybath6276
    @garybath6276 11 місяців тому +1

    Ya I probably would have used a Hamer to flatten the bracket but I guess when you have all the toys you might as well use them.

  • @davida369
    @davida369 Рік тому +2

    An update on the consumption and the power level yu are running it at would be kool, ta

  • @jaminthevanuk296
    @jaminthevanuk296 Рік тому +1

    Well done for using this kit ....

  • @BeFs
    @BeFs Рік тому

    Thinking about buying one of these any day now, just my luck that you uploaded this video right now :D Thank you

  • @tracygeddes5867
    @tracygeddes5867 Рік тому +1

    Two sec with a hammer,but I guess if I had a press like that I would do same.

  • @mervynouthwaite1390
    @mervynouthwaite1390 Рік тому +1

    Nine minutes to say you fitted the pump upside down and show how to bend a bit of metal! And called it a fatal mistake?

  • @albertwayenberg9140
    @albertwayenberg9140 Рік тому

    So 1 us gallon will last approximately 8hrs on highest setting 3 gallons = 24hrs. @ 5 bucks a gallon it is 15 dollars per day
    15x30= $450 per month. If you only use it 8 hrs per day it would be $ 150 bucks a month.

  • @thesakcheegii
    @thesakcheegii Рік тому +1

    Looks like the heater is inside. Also exhaust is inside. Beware of exhaust carbonoxide!

  • @kennethyanni3852
    @kennethyanni3852 Рік тому

    Better off running it inside so the air intake is using the inside air ,,will warm faster and be more efficient and of course vent the exhaust outside 😊

  • @jamesturner2126
    @jamesturner2126 Рік тому

    The pump suffers from cavitation, diesel leaks out, so air leaks in. Strangely, it'll prime 5 meters across my truck, but it needs a 10cm short tube to the heater, to prevent a build up of bubbles. The faster the pump pumps, the hotter the unit runs. Bigger the area, longer it runs.

    • @Bryan-Hensley
      @Bryan-Hensley Рік тому

      Do you realize how much suction you'd have to pull on diesel to cause it to boil? (Cavitation) These plunger pumps have no where near the power to cavitate the fuel. And you'd need a serious restriction in the suction line. It's takes very low pressure to boil kerosene or diesel.

  • @henricloven
    @henricloven Рік тому

    No clamps on the fuel line fittings?? not strange that it is leaking on the pressure side between pump and burner. and where is the fuel filter?

  • @MrjackieG
    @MrjackieG 10 місяців тому

    Stick with the small, white, hard fuel line. This is the proper line not the larger, soft green or colored line.

  • @DDevianceth
    @DDevianceth Рік тому +3

    Isn’t the exhaust also to close to the fuel tube?

  • @carter33361
    @carter33361 Рік тому

    Just to add to air intake. You need one otherwise you will be drawing in exhaust fumes.

  • @Arbe1945
    @Arbe1945 7 місяців тому

    Where have you got the exhaust going into. a room or outside?

  • @kigerkarlzeberedi1800
    @kigerkarlzeberedi1800 Рік тому

    The pump must be at a 45% degree angle it causes cavitation bubbles in the pump and helps firing the fuel with the air made by cavitation of the fuel pump. But everybody knows that. :)

  • @Lordlindef
    @Lordlindef 10 місяців тому

    What Hz settings you use low and topp ???
    5 liter over night ??? Omg i use 1/3 of that if not less

  • @davecooper3238
    @davecooper3238 Рік тому

    What do mortgage holders, insurance companies & freehold owners think about these heaters ?
    Could fitting one lead to legal troubles.

  • @jimgresham5529
    @jimgresham5529 3 місяці тому

    Any problems with heat going through the wall ?

  • @dutchman2000
    @dutchman2000 Рік тому

    Mount it inside , heat the inside air not the outside air , dont loos heat in the duct that is not isolated ... my 8kw heater runs on less than 2liter a day

  • @rfunder
    @rfunder Рік тому

    Maybe consider not having the exhaust inside, or at the very least not having it next to the air intake for heating. Carbon monoxide is such a stupid way to go out…

  • @storm7610
    @storm7610 Рік тому +1

    We would think that the fuel pumps and the fuel filters that come with these Chinese heater kits would have a directional arrows on them ➡️ ♨️

    • @wilwert1746
      @wilwert1746 Рік тому

      Just trace the lines from tank.