Why the coL Dynasty was Better than OpTic's, The "Villain" in COD - Burned Bridges Ep.2 (Aches)

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  • @kencult
    @kencult 2 роки тому +546

    This is podcast is actually so important to the cod scene. Having all these first hand accounts of the very early days of competitive call of duty and talking about it's history is something really special. I don't think a lot of us would ever know about these details without this podcast. Thanks, Crim

    • @ownedweezybaby
      @ownedweezybaby 2 роки тому +29

      It’s one of those things where you were there or you were not. As it’s very poor documented

    • @johnnyramuz9065
      @johnnyramuz9065 2 роки тому +8

      Yeah. It’s like those WW2 documentaries that have fewer and fewer people left to interview.

    • @iGNiTETheKiD
      @iGNiTETheKiD 2 роки тому +1

      Facts. Great point. That’s what I took away from the video as well

    • @Squatch76
      @Squatch76 2 роки тому +2

      Yeah the crim and pat talk is so cool. I hope they get teep as well and karma and scump and formal and clay and nade, in importance in that order. That would be so cool. I feel like crim doesn’t talk about personal stuff like love, but I know he loves everyone I just named. Especially the col boys. Crim and aches and teep and clay and karma should be boys for sure. Idk if they are but I hope so, and I hope they can talk now about the crazy ass past and how it was before it’s time and how they could play in their prime together today.

    • @ny2j7
      @ny2j7 2 роки тому

      @@ownedweezybaby Yeah, those early days were the best man.

  • @rissky.
    @rissky. 2 роки тому +363

    yall can say whatever you want bout Aches, but I'm lovin how he's still involved in the esports scene & didn't dissappear like the rest of em ✍🏻

    • @perpllexed
      @perpllexed 2 роки тому +29

      Slayaaa 🥶

    • @Sarg3e
      @Sarg3e 2 роки тому +30

      He was meant for this. Let’s not forget these guys are pretty normal once the camera goes off. We love this shit because of the characters in the scene and Pat and Ian play them perfectly

    • @rissky.
      @rissky. 2 роки тому +3

      @@Sarg3e well said 👏

    • @charlesdobronxcharlesdobro4660
      @charlesdobronxcharlesdobro4660 2 роки тому +3

      Who the hell is “Aches”?

    • @rissky.
      @rissky. 2 роки тому +3

      @@charlesdobronxcharlesdobro4660 bro with the glasses

  • @Ldmendez
    @Ldmendez 2 роки тому +189

    We neeed more episodes like this crim. With teepe, damon, all of them

  • @808bluemont
    @808bluemont 2 роки тому +26

    that Lacefield bo3 story is insanely perspective changing. Obviously sad about that loss in the long run, but extremely happy for that c9 team in that context

  • @CallofdutyRc2Gamer
    @CallofdutyRc2Gamer 2 роки тому +120

    Aches isn’t Voldemort, he’s professor Snape.

  • @xPersianSkaterx
    @xPersianSkaterx 2 роки тому +145

    2 hours of Crim and Pat conversing on a podcast? inject this into my veins immediately

  • @erich.956
    @erich.956 2 роки тому +27

    This was one of the best CoD related podcasts I've ever seen, holy shit. Brings back so many crazy memories. Porter, you are built for this man. Keep it up

  • @MrBDTF
    @MrBDTF 2 роки тому +16

    i’ve been playing cod since cod4, starting as a 9yr old kid and now being 24, almost 25. it’s insane to finally see a lot of the insight on the backstories, i had only heard small things from friends around gb’s/cdl. this was an insane eye opener and i got so much love for all the og’s in the cod scene.

    • @camakaze1330
      @camakaze1330 2 роки тому

      Exact same as me bro, miss the glory days 😭

    • @MasterInHD
      @MasterInHD 2 роки тому

      Same, I’m 25 and started with CoD2. BO2 was the best CoD of all-time

  • @skalhoe
    @skalhoe 2 роки тому +58

    he listened to us and put time stamps in love that crim

  • @ZP23
    @ZP23 2 роки тому +80

    Let’s goooo! So pumped to see how big this podcast becomes #coLgang

  • @aoverhol1028
    @aoverhol1028 2 роки тому +16

    Always respected aches when he played because he won so much, but really grew to like him as a person after retirement. Really appreciate his input on the flank even when it’s outrageous. He a very valuable part of the content scene

    • @jfraz_7720
      @jfraz_7720 2 роки тому +1

      im an optic fan and i agree. hes great

  • @dillyboyq
    @dillyboyq 2 роки тому +4

    It was honestly a perfect progression for me with everyone in the COD Scene. I was 11/12 years old watchin Crim come into the scene and dominate with coL & Fariko n Haggy owning all of BO2 & I was just so pissed as a kid wanting Scump to win lol. But after 10+ years & growing up I realize how important y’all were. That’s why I love everything bout comp cod, cause at the end of the day y’all are just people like everyone else. Thank you both for everything you’ve done.

    • @tmarston3944
      @tmarston3944 2 роки тому +1

      This is a nice comment, well said.

  • @Sephiroth32vergil
    @Sephiroth32vergil 2 роки тому +17

    "burned bridges" is an amazing podcast name. I hope all the bridges he did burn become mended now that he isnt competing.

  • @1gecky123
    @1gecky123 2 роки тому +14

    Man this is bringing back a lot of memories of the old cod scene. Hopefully the new-gen players will gain some respect for the legends of the scene.

  • @coolbud7704
    @coolbud7704 2 роки тому +37

    As a new comp fan. It was kind of startling to hear the story about the lacefield situation cause like almost no one in the community talks about

    • @Avid_Conservationist
      @Avid_Conservationist 2 роки тому +1

      None of them cared then or else something would have been done. They trying to get sympathy for fucking up

    • @checkle1
      @checkle1 2 роки тому

      I remember watching it live and I was so happy when they knocked optic out. I went back to watch the vod and saw the comments from people who were there saying he was being extra spicey at the crowd because of the racial slurs. Some people thought he was just being a bad sport and he got even more racist comments online.

  • @federalknight1949
    @federalknight1949 2 роки тому +44

    This podcast can actually be so impactful for the COD scene. Behind the scenes looks for the fans can only bring more interest.

  • @MrXunoriginal
    @MrXunoriginal 2 роки тому +8

    That was a great balance of personality, you two have a natural chemistry for a podcast format. need more!

  • @Sarg3e
    @Sarg3e 2 роки тому +11

    Two god damn legends! You love to see it. Great first guest, love to hear you two talk about the old days. Thanks for being cornerstones of comp cod. Respect 👊🏼

  • @garrett3234
    @garrett3234 2 роки тому +5

    I started watching cod in Bo1 and seeing the col dynasty first hand was crazy but now to here first hand accounts of behind the scenes is incredible best. this is by far the best cod related podcast yet and even ip there for podcast in general. cant wait to see who is on next

  • @BlakeBaken
    @BlakeBaken 2 роки тому +13

    MirX put his trust into Haggy and Sloss too much that’s what held him back because he should still be playing!

  • @christophermcguire9921
    @christophermcguire9921 2 роки тому +32

    Only OGs will appreciate this man…. Best COD podcast out EVER! Just the stuff they said and the stories don’t compare to this

  • @Arc5Gaming
    @Arc5Gaming 2 роки тому +9

    Here we go! Keep ‘em coming Crim, honestly anticipating what you’ve got lined up for us!! 💪🏼💪🏼

  • @Haidderispro
    @Haidderispro 2 роки тому +29

    Aches is great on the flank he has integrity

  • @ParadoxQJ
    @ParadoxQJ 2 роки тому +24

    Major props to you guys for bringing up what happened at Black Ops 3 champs at the end. Thank you

    • @Avid_Conservationist
      @Avid_Conservationist 2 роки тому

      If it was a big deal to anyone they would’ve done something then. They all failed lace. Absolutely bullshit for these guys not to take any responsibility

  • @ivanhernandez1719
    @ivanhernandez1719 2 роки тому +3

    Really enjoyed the split camera POV!

  • @XxMischieferxX
    @XxMischieferxX 2 роки тому +6

    Glad that they mentioned MirX, he was too good in bo2. Great podcast.. keep it up crim

  • @HotboiEngineering
    @HotboiEngineering 2 роки тому +17

    That first bit Aches said: "We used to just show up to make money and go home". Pro COD back then was a job, its turned into a lifestyle and a show. That explains so much of why the league is so different nowadays.

    • @inFiniteTraCer
      @inFiniteTraCer 2 роки тому +1

      And like he said, players these days make it to pro and actually stop trying. Imagine trying to compete for kills with your new pro teammates, making everyone better. Or just taking your salary and calling it a day.

  • @dahgameps432
    @dahgameps432 2 роки тому +4

    Awesome podcast man, I would truly like you to interview Mirx, let the man tell you in his own words how he sunk his carrer. I Respect all of you, you saw a oportunity more than 10 years ago and run away with it!

  • @Yoruyo.
    @Yoruyo. 2 роки тому +2

    This is one of those ones I will be coming back to very often ~

  • @unknownslayer7128
    @unknownslayer7128 2 роки тому +1

    You can never change what you have said and done all you can do is prove to yourself through action what you have become….good and bad . You guys are legends who have helped shape the competitive COD scene , again good or bad , for that I thank you!

  • @inFiniteTraCer
    @inFiniteTraCer 2 роки тому +2

    This was very insightful, and I really enjoyed it. All of these legends and stories of the beginnings of ESports! Ive been around since day 1, I found this very interesting. We need more. Maybe some of you boys will write a book about your experiences one day. Good stuff, Thank you!

  • @Improvise1013
    @Improvise1013 2 роки тому +4

    Cool to hear that all these legends are from NC. Just had my first son and hearing the determination from these guys bc of Damon and his family, awesome stuff!

  • @Serrano248
    @Serrano248 2 роки тому +1

    Finally finished the episode! Can’t wait for more.

  • @andrewhall3715
    @andrewhall3715 2 роки тому +1

    This is great. Glad you guys brought the podcast setup.

  • @_air_co3415
    @_air_co3415 2 роки тому +6

    I like how there is another side of this story other than optics

  • @johnmurray5292
    @johnmurray5292 2 роки тому

    Great pod Crim appreciate the time stamps it makes watching a much better experience.

  • @alexcarlone7967
    @alexcarlone7967 2 роки тому +11

    The CoL dynsasty was more consistent and more dominant over their peroid of time - only thing is they didnt last as long, but part of that is due to the org

    • @PreacH0921
      @PreacH0921 2 роки тому

      People forget how dominant optic was during JetPacks.. they just didn’t finish at champs specifically in AW and BO3, but they were piling up tourneys

    • @mcbaggins12
      @mcbaggins12 2 роки тому

      There was also less comp though

    • @prototypep4
      @prototypep4 2 роки тому

      @@PreacH0921 in terms of comp OpTic had a much higher skill ceiling. If you put Optic dynasty against CoL OG win it 9/10. What they did during their time was insane for how long they teamed. Top 3 team across how many titles?

    • @samn90834
      @samn90834 2 роки тому

      @@prototypep4 they were the TOP team in AW, BO3 and IW, even if they didn’t win champs on the first two they were clearly the best team over the full cycle of the game

    • @prototypep4
      @prototypep4 2 роки тому

      @@samn90834 100%. Even CoL at their best were not as purely dominant as OpTic were.

  • @aden1430
    @aden1430 2 роки тому +4

    I could literally listen to crim and aches speak for days

  • @crackastrami
    @crackastrami 2 роки тому +1

    I’ve been subbed to this channel since the dawn of man. Never been more excited to see something pop up

  • @OhAndron
    @OhAndron 2 роки тому +2

    This was such a great watch. During this time period they're speaking about I only kept up with Halo, so it's awesome to get such insight into the COD scene! Also, it was really nice to hear Pat just talking and not having Ben tryna argue every other sentence. 😅 can't wait for more episodes!!

  • @Rowan_C
    @Rowan_C 2 роки тому +17

    Crazy how much of this history is hardly documented, if at all. Huge huge insight into the evolution of competitive CoD

    • @inFiniteTraCer
      @inFiniteTraCer 2 роки тому

      i hope some of these fellas write a book one day

  • @SalemXIII
    @SalemXIII 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks for doing the timestamps!

  • @Up2Eight
    @Up2Eight 2 роки тому +1

    Yeah... we're gonna need another one of these already. Could've listened to stories from the coL/EG/early-CoD era for hours longer.

  • @asapBreeZy
    @asapBreeZy 2 роки тому +1

    This is it right here Crim. This is your super power. You can be gaming Joe Rogan. I genuinely enjoyed this. Hearing all the old stories took me back man. The only criticism I have, is maybe less interrupting and going off on side tangents mid story. Other than that, this was super dope. Much love brother.

  • @JKMeZmA
    @JKMeZmA 2 роки тому

    This pod is so well done! Love the concept and that it’s able to travel well! So important to chat these different sides which don’t get discussed while folks play. Great insights

  • @Slurpified
    @Slurpified 2 роки тому +2

    I remember that year of cod. Was insane. coL were probably the most dominant team I ever layed eyes on in cod comp history. With Fariko Impact and Denial being runner ups. Probably my Top 3 outside of the mainstream teams.

    • @bryant1556
      @bryant1556 Рік тому

      Denial from AW? They only won champs

  • @Range_45
    @Range_45 2 роки тому +1

    Love the video man good stuff💪🏽

  • @bernardocardenas5528
    @bernardocardenas5528 2 роки тому +3

    Y’all should make another podcast going over topics that fly under the radar in the cod scene. For example, the adderal use within the pros

  • @dean529
    @dean529 2 роки тому +3

    It is amazing to think that even to this day people see the ending of that BO3 match as Aches and co being disrespectful. Puts it into a different prospective and for sure shows why Lace was going off at the fans at the end of it. Even the commentary team at the time called them the most recent villains in call of duty... sucks he had to have all that negative energy in what was his career defining moment.

    • @Avid_Conservationist
      @Avid_Conservationist 2 роки тому

      It’s a bullshit excuse. They all could’ve done something about it that day but were too scared.

  • @DmcNebster
    @DmcNebster 2 роки тому +1

    imo these kids that hate on everyone else aren't true optic fans, we don't claim them. if your main way to support your team is to hate on others you're not a true fan. been an optic fan since bo2 and always had love for crim and aches they've done so much for the scene, 2 goats.

  • @bernardocardenas5528
    @bernardocardenas5528 2 роки тому

    Goated podcast, honestly. Haven’t been this entertained in a while!

  • @HammerFPS.
    @HammerFPS. 2 роки тому +3

    Need to have aches back on again. Would love to see karma or teep next episode!

  • @kg0230
    @kg0230 2 роки тому +1

    Like Crim said Aches needs to do his own content. Because this interview changed my view on him. His personality just rubbed me the wrong way but i have a lot of respect for him after this. Very eye opening.

  • @JG_Nightmare
    @JG_Nightmare 2 роки тому

    I do not usually comment on UA-cam videos. This was everything I hoped it would be and more - really hope for a PT. 2 sooner than later. Aches is one of the *insert worship adjectives here* greatest, most needed players in COD history. It was awesome getting a peak behind the curtain of such sustained greatness. More from Crime and Aches in the future please king

  • @prod.mysttt
    @prod.mysttt 2 роки тому +1

    God man I’m so glad I got to experience the bo2 comp era

  • @jasonarmstrong9656
    @jasonarmstrong9656 2 роки тому +1

    anaheim bo2 was the first event i watched. that was when seth and nade were grinding in the summer at the house all the time. people hated impact so much. you guys were semi close to rounding out the show i was hoping you would mention ghosts anaheim octane comeback. i dont think the optic team for ghosts ever recovered from that. i wouldve loved to hear about 18 champs. i want to know more about the scump aches duo from bo1. and how you guys wanted to pick up scump during col run at some point. great episode. always awesome to see pat be pat instead of his persona(even though the persona is entertaining). it is crazy to think that back then when getting 2quick all you needed was any main ar for success and couldnt find one, but now we have an abundance of mains

  • @krispyquam5713
    @krispyquam5713 2 роки тому +75

    YOOOOOOO YESSSSSSS

  • @HoRRiiBLe1313
    @HoRRiiBLe1313 2 роки тому +1

    When Crim called Aches Chuck Norris. I said true immediately. Love it.

  • @tylerchasse1405
    @tylerchasse1405 2 роки тому +2

    would love some more runs down memory lane in the future with guests. was so cool to hear the stories I've never heard before

  • @rodrigomartell1142
    @rodrigomartell1142 2 роки тому +1

    I love the COL/EG stories I remember becoming a fan of them on those days back in bo2

  • @ahmedcarter40
    @ahmedcarter40 Рік тому +1

    Being a fan since BO1, this podcast is GOATED

  • @user-yo5qz7wm4h
    @user-yo5qz7wm4h 2 роки тому +5

    Quality content!

  • @jackoftradesmaterofnone585
    @jackoftradesmaterofnone585 2 роки тому +1

    I have seen aches on a few pods and I think he is very well spoken/good at telling stories. Definitely a good guest

  • @iGNiTETheKiD
    @iGNiTETheKiD 2 роки тому +1

    Love the content Crimsix! Can’t wait for more! I as a diehard OpTic fan will always appreciate you and what u did for OpTic. You were legitimately THE LEADER. The leadership u brought to that team and in game leader is UNDERRATED AF!! And I’ll never forget that! Most wins out of any CDL pro for a reason! Sad to see u go bro but looking forward to content! And don’t forget, YOU’RE a GOD. Called “game 5 Crim” for a reason! Keep ur head up bro!! Much love

  • @GaryDoom
    @GaryDoom 2 роки тому +1

    The side tracks were the best parts wish this was longer

  • @jamalshelley3176
    @jamalshelley3176 2 роки тому +1

    This is such a great listen man. Two living legends🙌🙌🙌🙌

  • @ronsil5582
    @ronsil5582 2 роки тому

    Keep this coming. Definitely the content we need!

  • @Gikendasso
    @Gikendasso Місяць тому

    I really enjoyed this. Watched the whole thing and replayed a few things that made me laugh….
    I really liked how your conversation kept drifting into little side stories 😂

  • @laike8989
    @laike8989 2 роки тому +1

    I don’t always like aches takes but I will say he probably or is one of the smartest cod player/ viewer and love the podcast it doesn’t seem so formal and I like it like that seem like yall just kickin it and talkin like you would off can

  • @nichyde2813
    @nichyde2813 2 роки тому +5

    I feel like aches would be amazing as a co host here.

  • @JarsEnvy
    @JarsEnvy 2 роки тому +1

    I genuinely believe crim has 2-3 years of competitive CoD left. Won’t be surprised if he came back like Batman and won one more chip

  • @mdcson69
    @mdcson69 Рік тому

    As someone who was watching Cod since 2011, seeing the other-side of the story that an OG fan is accustomed to is insane and now understandably Important. I did always have respect for these two even when they beat my teams. They were just better. But the Damon story I had no idea about and they just gained even more respect from me and many others.

  • @9RepeatingMonkeys
    @9RepeatingMonkeys 2 роки тому

    Back in the day I was die hard watching cod but always respected Pat and enjoyed his content, he played the heel so well and cod esports would have died without nade/aches, they literally were the pulse of cod for 3/4 years

  • @devinramirez2502
    @devinramirez2502 2 роки тому

    Great pod. Keep ‘em coming.

  • @MEDLINvisuals
    @MEDLINvisuals 2 роки тому +8

    The way Aches opens up the convo is true af, separating the player on stage v the person off the stage is an important factor that people forget about. This is me commenting like 5 minutes into the video lol

  • @oMaJiNo1618
    @oMaJiNo1618 2 роки тому +2

    Always had respect for Aches. He played the role they gave to him.

  • @wiseful4152
    @wiseful4152 2 роки тому +4

    I love these types of podcasts Crim keep it up 👍🏽

  • @zilla8858
    @zilla8858 2 роки тому +4

    The camera man needs to always be on the pod. He is your Jamie 😂

  • @MrEdreed20
    @MrEdreed20 2 роки тому +1

    loved hearing aches on this podcast. so many entertaining behind the scene stories

  • @jeronimohuerfano4458
    @jeronimohuerfano4458 2 роки тому

    Keep the journeys going, long podcast like these are needeed

  • @barkleytv1668
    @barkleytv1668 2 роки тому

    great interview, great stories, great guys, love yall

  • @machia.x
    @machia.x 2 роки тому +4

    I Know I’m going to love this episode keep it up Crim❤

  • @asapBreeZy
    @asapBreeZy 2 роки тому +3

    Also, you and Aches should try to do at least one of these every month or something. You guys have years and years of stories.

  • @ekinbui3397
    @ekinbui3397 2 роки тому +1

    I loved this episode. I hope to hear more underground stories like the lacefield one. I had no idea that happened as someone who watched that match live

  • @T4SelNiNO
    @T4SelNiNO 2 роки тому +1

    It's funny in the first few minutes they mention crim grinding a million dollar Battlefield tournament that never happened. He immediately got on one of the biggest teams (Dc5 or TGB I think?) and all of us Battlefield players thought he couldn't be that good because he was a halo player and the games are obviously very different . Then we all found out how good he was when we played against him in scrims. Just naturally good at any FPS and could become one of the best on any franchise so quickly. (on console at least)

    • @Crimsix
      @Crimsix  2 роки тому +1

      The glory days of man :*(

  • @Predash051
    @Predash051 2 роки тому +1

    U guys kicked it. I need more of this

  • @jacobwaddell6075
    @jacobwaddell6075 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent podcast. COD community needs this!

  • @TissueMe
    @TissueMe 9 місяців тому +1

    Crim could you do thoughts on the cdl teams and standing.Who you would trade to make a better team who to drop etc.watch the cdl streams and who you think will win major 2 id love to hear your opinion

  • @L0ELIIFE
    @L0ELIIFE 2 роки тому

    Love both you OGs although you guys have been painted as the villians I always admired the skill and dedication to the game and winning. CoL is definitely the greatest dynasty to come out of CoD. You boys consistently broke hearts and put on a hell of a show!

  • @KKamm
    @KKamm 2 роки тому +1

    this podcast was dope. Absolutely love hearing behind the scenes about the years and teams that got me into competitive call of duty. Adds so much detail and information from the outside looking in

  • @Setbaxs
    @Setbaxs 2 роки тому

    Them talking about the good Vs evil aspect makes me miss those old days of competition in the ghosts/bo2 days. So much fun to watch back then

  • @DogeLover
    @DogeLover 2 роки тому

    Loved the video Crim, was really entertaining.

  • @tksweaty
    @tksweaty 2 роки тому

    Didn’t know Aches was such a good guy until this podcast. Great work

  • @strathmore5267
    @strathmore5267 2 роки тому

    Love this, I appreciate it guys!

  • @ocustoms1789
    @ocustoms1789 2 роки тому +1

    Some real stuff in here especially the stuff about damon. Great podcast

  • @Bds2001
    @Bds2001 2 роки тому +3

    Keep ‘em coming Crim.

  • @ShawnFX
    @ShawnFX Рік тому

    22:30 can someone tell me which player they're talking about? Meer or Mear?

    • @Crimsix
      @Crimsix  Рік тому +1

      Mirx

    • @ShawnFX
      @ShawnFX Рік тому

      @@Crimsix Ohh got it, thanks for the quick reply!!

  • @BrizzleBrah
    @BrizzleBrah 2 роки тому +1

    thanks for this Crim and Pat. Been a Pat fan since Lvg and coL was the best cod team.

  • @Herscheyyz
    @Herscheyyz 2 роки тому

    This podcast was very needed, and I hope that players who are currently competing or plan on competing in the future. Listen to this because there’s a lot of things that happen early on an esports that never gets brought up that a lot of competitors went through that simply cannot be explained just by word of mouth. the energy that went into that time of growing competitive Call of Duty® and competitive halo was the wild wild west and it’s just amazing to look 10 years later and see players getting paid $20,000 a month

  • @HiTechRedneck
    @HiTechRedneck 2 роки тому +2

    Love this. Was definitely guilty of thinking of Aches as a villain since that’s how he was always talked about, but seeing him in stuff like this has really made me respect and appreciate him a lot more. And I’ve never been a fan of the narrative putting you as a villain though even as an OpTic fan myself (although tbh I root for pretty much everybody nowadays since I have players I like all over the place), his is gonna sound weird, but it’s 1000% meant as a compliment because it’s also the way I describe some of my best friends and favorite people in general, but I’ve always thought of you as a “lovable asshole.” May rub people the wrong way and fit that villain role well if you don’t know any better, but maybe it’s because I’ve been watching your content for so long that I know you’re a good and funny dude at heart. Anyway, loving the podcast and can’t wait to watch more!