Good video EXCEPT for one thing, the camera person needs to get a clue! When the Ford guy is explaining something on the engine, the turbo in this case, and he's obviously pointing to the part he's talking about, IT NEEDS TO BE IN FRAME!
As an owner of a 2008 Ford Edge Limited SEL. I can say that the car drives great. The all wheel drive is very responsive. The engines on the other hand are very poorly designed which is why they're coming out with these new ones. The older edges are notorious for have oil issues. The oil doesn't flow through the engine properly jamming the cams up and causing the phasers to fail. It's a $1800 dollar fix. I feel that's a problem with a motor that only has 56k miles on it. Because of this, I've lost a ton of faith in the Ford brand. I've always been brand loyal. This makes it tough to even consider owning another one.
Can't wait for the review on this car from TFL. So far all of the reviews that I've seen have been outstanding. I'm very interested in your opinions Roman. Funny that the least interesting engine is the V6.
That 2.7 needs to find its way into the Fusion. Those are better peak numbers than the standard BMW 335i. That engine in the Fusion with AWD would be something serious.
goatmonkey2112 I had the 2.0 Fusion, and that engine is more than enough for a midsize sedan. I've had five adults in that car, including me, and it pulled like I was the only one in there. I now have a 2016 Lincoln MKZ, with the same 2.0. There is no loss of power. I do feel that 2.7 should be an option instead of the naturally aspired 3.5.
Some real shoddy camera work, can't see anything the guy is demonstrating, camera person keeps focusing on the Ford guy and not what he's showing, just awful!!
Im considering a used Edge right now. However, im terrified of the water pump situation on the 3.5. Do I need to spend the money on a sport for the 2.7 or is 4cyl decent. Ugh, so many questions.
kma198199 The existing Ecoboost engines have had numerous recalls and complaints. www.autoblog.com/2012/09/17/2012-ford-edge-ecoboost-recalled-over-engine-fire-risk/ www.autoblog.com/2012/11/30/ford-recalling-89k-2013-fusion-and-escape-models-over-engine-fir/ www.autoblog.com/2014/08/19/ford-focus-st-escape-transit-lincoln-mkc-recall/ www.autoblog.com/2014/12/05/2015-ford-mustang-transit-connect-recall/ www.autoblog.com/2014/04/14/nhtsa-closes-ford-f-150-ecoboost-acceleration-probe-report/ jalopnik.com/ford-recalls-ford-escape-for-sixth-time-in-18-months-ov-1471855972 www.fordproblems.com/trends/ecoboost-engine/
emdec55 So does that mean new EDGE must be recalled? EVen NA rngine cars are getting recalled, what about GM, they recall even 6.2l trucks for fun, What about FCA products, they are all about recalling Ford recalls vehicles b4 something goes wrong and thats why they are still worlds most ethical car company as well www.carscoops.com/2015/03/ford-is-yet-again-worlds-most-ethical.html How many people have suffered losses out of some Ford cars, actually the rate is almost less than 2%, even Toyotas have killed people, not Ford
Note to Roman, a Ford 460 CID engine was specified as being 7.5 liters and its lowest factory rating was 208 horsepower. It also had 365 lb*ft of torque at 2600 rpm. A marginal mechanic could have that engine making over 500 horsepower in a weekend.
They need a larger engine in the fusion. Small engines are fine for those who want them but a larger engine in a smaller car is the best combination of size, fuel economy, and horsepower. Especially if you want that Middle Class Aston Martin.
Jonathan Washington That is true that larger and heavier engines lead to less fuel economy and lowered handling, but the reality is that the Ecoboost engines aren't small nor light. The 3.5L Ecoboost V6 is heavier than the 6.2L V8 in the Silverado and the 2.0L Ecoboost I4 is about 80lbs heaver than the 2GR-FE 3.5L V6 used in a lot of Toyota's like the Camry. The 2GR-FE has been in production for over 10 years now. The Ecoboost engines are all about lowering emissions to meet new CAFE standards by 2020. Ecoboost engines are very clean engines but they do not offer the real world MPG gains that everyone was hoping for, nor do they help with handling due to their increase in weight.
Chris Biz Nope they give good mpg in vehicles with lighter kerb weight, Currently Fusion is heaviest sedan of all midsize sedans The current Fusion Titanium AWD is as heavy as a full size Chevy Impala v6
The coolest thing is we offer all the choice, thats the best part Ford just is simply amazing nowadays I would have loved to see the new 2.0 twin turbo TDCi engine in the EDGE or at least n the new MKC
4:20 you never want to cool exaust gas that enters turbo, hot gas = fast gas more spin more eficiency etc.. Integrated manifold with integrated turbo = problems, cracking manifold is reported so many times, and i understand why. Imagine cracked manifold repair cost 10 000usd ? :D since you need to replace whole engine basicaly...
i like how ford made the ford edge, edegy like they have the black strips of metal around the head lights representing eyeliner around edegy peoples eyes.
Hurray a 0-60 in Colorado where at altitude will add 1-2 seconds to the actual time where the rest of the population lives just above sea level. The 0-60's these guys do is crap and not just because they test a mile above sea level.
Adam McGee so tell me how many times you are able to pull the 0-60 time your manufacturer tells you your car does? MrKeyboardCommando this guy is just blunt speaking maybe because his ride isn't as fast as he dreams, he needs to get out of the poster and spec sheets and actually drive a car.
Reliable my ass! 15 Ford Edge 2.0L turbo at the shop has had the transmission blow, timing chain is stretched. Tensioner also failed. High pressure DI fuel pump failed. All before 90K miles. Don’t waste your money.
I have an old Buick Skylark with the L77 350 4bl and it makes almost 300hp and almost 400ft lbs of torque and it does not suck gas , it does not sip it either.. Depends on how you drive it....It hauls the mail and has no turbos, no electronics, pure mechanical. I do not need a spectrum analyzer or a data scope to do a tune or change the oil. it is made from steel not plastic. It is extremely reliable, tight, stops and handles well and looks bad ass !! Polymetallic Green. You can rebuild just about anything on this car with tools from the kitchen !! now... This guy here is talking about 240 hp from a 2 liter that is way over stressed .. These little engines have to be driven like you hate them in order to make them go. The old Big V8's are way under-stressed and just do not work all that hard to male big power and last a long time for sure. Wonder how many eco boost engines will be around in 40 years.. lol When he talks big gas guzzling v8s with no power, he is talking middle 1970's. 1976 to 1979 or so when the government mandats kicked in and you have 200hp 460 v8s but they still have big torque. But they did suck gas. Late 70's to early 80's were the worst times for american cars. Thanks government !! But if you guys want to buy a Ford Edge with ECO Boost for over 40,000 bucks for plastic! Go for it !! Did you see all those plastic parts on that engines? Cam Phasing , over head cams and on and on and on.. Its looks like a maintenance nightmare !!!
Have you never heard of a mustang gt that's actually a tuner not a 2.7 liter TT engine SMH. Let's break it down TT 2.7 V6= 440 lbs (raw weight) 325 hp and 375 lb ft NA 5.0l V8=444 lbs (raw weight) 435 hp and 400 lb ft This doesn't take into account it's easy easier to tune a v8 plus it's proven reliability over the often recalled and proven unreliable "Ecoboost". Maybe if ford was legitimately retarded they Would listen to you but I'm sure glad they don't.
Blake Brink Twin turbo engines give a lot better power delivery than a single turbo, inasmuch as they produce power all through the rev range, rather than just in one area of the rev range. This makes for much better performance on the road.
Blake Brink I never said anything about replacing the 5-0 with the ecoboost you dumbass, I meant instead of the 2.3 they should put the 2.7 in the Mustang.
Sigrafix using that engine would raise the price of car to a near GT price. the GT is cheap as fuck now because they've been making the 5.0 forever. like i told you the v-8 is better in every possible factor besides fuel consumpation which shouldn't be that big of a factor in shopping these muscle cars(otherwise they wouldn't sell manuals that fuck the stangs fuel economy) . also they shouldn't drop the 2.3 they're trying to use it to replace their 3.7 and make the ecoboost engine stock like on the very ford in this video... i feel like you don't know ford really well or reality for that matter.
In what mad alternate universe did ford think that a turbo 2.0 litre isn't capable of towing? Ford America, go and get taught about towing and the general ins and outs of everything else about cars by ford Europe!! They have brains...
@@JeremyCrescendo I just kept mine stock there is not much you can do and you can’t install a turbo, maybe a muffler delete if you really wanted. Drives great in snow very fun doing donuts with traction control off
I think the 2.7 is a waste of money, what do you need more horsepower in an edge for? I love big v8s and and more horsepower but come on, in an edge do you really need that?
Well,U r not the only person living in this world, a lot of people dont want v8, but needs economy of v6 and more importantly torque, ecoboosts deliver torque in boat loads, to get such kind of torque one will have to make NA engines of at least 2x displacement, thats impossible in business stand point Also with the EDGE sport if u want u can smoke an annoying Cadillac ATS,Focus ST,BMW 328i,Merc CLA,Audi TT,Audi s5 etc, and yet be in a CUV, which other brand has balls to make a car like this NONE So Ford just made 1 hell of an impression with new EDGE
i think that torque is what there after more than top end horsepower , the 2.7 has better fuel economy than a 3.5 v6 and would allow alot of low end grunt . otherwise your only turbo option has a 2 liter engine trying to move an suv .. not exactly a great combo .
poplepo3 Actually we just bought a 16 edge with the 2.0eco and it’s has a ton of pull for its size. We went with it for fuel numbers but, it will surprise you when you step on it. And will tow 3500lbs.
The Edge is garbage, and both of those engines are garbage. What kind of idiot engineer thinks it's a good idea to have the exhaust integrated. The only good engines Ford has now are the 5.4 and the PowerStroke.
Adam McGee I somehow forgot about the Coyote. You are correct, it is a good engine. Even the regular V6 is good, but when they do things like integrated exhaust manifolds then its time to go back to the drawing board.
Progressive Destroyer I agree thats dumb. Mercedes did that with their 5.5L twin turbo. They integrated the manifold and turbos inside the engine, What a dumb idea, if those turbos bite it I'd hate to see the bill. Same with these fords, putting regular crap gas into a car with a turbo sounds like a recipe for disaster.
Adam McGee VW did it as well with some of the TDI turbos. They had a separate exhaust manifold, but the turbo was built into it. Eventually the aftermarket fixed it. I dont think they will do the same for the Ford. I am sure it will not have a following of people wanting to do anything but drive it.
all I have to say is I'm in Canada and you guys are the best keep it up give it some real world reviews
Very informative! The Ford guy was great! Such a good explanation. So few sales associates are able to give such a good explanation. Thanks!
Good video EXCEPT for one thing, the camera person needs to get a clue!
When the Ford guy is explaining something on the engine, the turbo in this case, and he's obviously pointing to the part he's talking about, IT NEEDS TO BE IN FRAME!
As an owner of a 2008 Ford Edge Limited SEL. I can say that the car drives great. The all wheel drive is very responsive. The engines on the other hand are very poorly designed which is why they're coming out with these new ones. The older edges are notorious for have oil issues. The oil doesn't flow through the engine properly jamming the cams up and causing the phasers to fail. It's a $1800 dollar fix. I feel that's a problem with a motor that only has 56k miles on it. Because of this, I've lost a ton of faith in the Ford brand. I've always been brand loyal. This makes it tough to even consider owning another one.
Loved my 08 Edge except when it stalls for no reason. Ford Mechanics can never find a problem when it comes to the transmission.
Id take that 3.5 all day. Almost bullit proof other then the waterpump issue. Thing will easily get you 250k+ miles
Can't wait for the review on this car from TFL. So far all of the reviews that I've seen have been outstanding. I'm very interested in your opinions Roman. Funny that the least interesting engine is the V6.
That 2.7 needs to find its way into the Fusion. Those are better peak numbers than the standard BMW 335i. That engine in the Fusion with AWD would be something serious.
goatmonkey2112 I had the 2.0 Fusion, and that engine is more than enough for a midsize sedan. I've had five adults in that car, including me, and it pulled like I was the only one in there. I now have a 2016 Lincoln MKZ, with the same 2.0. There is no loss of power. I do feel that 2.7 should be an option instead of the naturally aspired 3.5.
2 years later lol it's in the fusion sport
Some real shoddy camera work, can't see anything the guy is demonstrating, camera person keeps focusing on the Ford guy and not what he's showing, just awful!!
Im considering a used Edge right now. However, im terrified of the water pump situation on the 3.5. Do I need to spend the money on a sport for the 2.7 or is 4cyl decent. Ugh, so many questions.
I can see recalls coming with all of the new engines
.....why do you say that?
Like u r God 2 predict reliability
kma198199
The existing Ecoboost engines have had numerous recalls and complaints.
www.autoblog.com/2012/09/17/2012-ford-edge-ecoboost-recalled-over-engine-fire-risk/
www.autoblog.com/2012/11/30/ford-recalling-89k-2013-fusion-and-escape-models-over-engine-fir/
www.autoblog.com/2014/08/19/ford-focus-st-escape-transit-lincoln-mkc-recall/
www.autoblog.com/2014/12/05/2015-ford-mustang-transit-connect-recall/
www.autoblog.com/2014/04/14/nhtsa-closes-ford-f-150-ecoboost-acceleration-probe-report/
jalopnik.com/ford-recalls-ford-escape-for-sixth-time-in-18-months-ov-1471855972
www.fordproblems.com/trends/ecoboost-engine/
emdec55 So does that mean new EDGE must be recalled?
EVen NA rngine cars are getting recalled, what about GM, they recall even 6.2l trucks for fun,
What about FCA products, they are all about recalling
Ford recalls vehicles b4 something goes wrong and thats why they are still worlds most ethical car company as well
www.carscoops.com/2015/03/ford-is-yet-again-worlds-most-ethical.html
How many people have suffered losses out of some Ford cars, actually the rate is almost less than 2%, even Toyotas have killed people, not Ford
ChillinGamer 101 Funny you say recall on a Ford with a GM product as your avatar..
Note to Roman, a Ford 460 CID engine was specified as being 7.5 liters and its lowest factory rating was 208 horsepower. It also had 365 lb*ft of torque at 2600 rpm. A marginal mechanic could have that engine making over 500 horsepower in a weekend.
They need a larger engine in the fusion. Small engines are fine for those who want them but a larger engine in a smaller car is the best combination of size, fuel economy, and horsepower. Especially if you want that Middle Class Aston Martin.
Larger engine means more weight which= less fuel economy, Hampered Handling, and weight over the front wheels.
Jonathan Washington That is true that larger and heavier engines lead to less fuel economy and lowered handling, but the reality is that the Ecoboost engines aren't small nor light. The 3.5L Ecoboost V6 is heavier than the 6.2L V8 in the Silverado and the 2.0L Ecoboost I4 is about 80lbs heaver than the 2GR-FE 3.5L V6 used in a lot of Toyota's like the Camry. The 2GR-FE has been in production for over 10 years now.
The Ecoboost engines are all about lowering emissions to meet new CAFE standards by 2020. Ecoboost engines are very clean engines but they do not offer the real world MPG gains that everyone was hoping for, nor do they help with handling due to their increase in weight.
Chris Biz Yea unfortunately i don't think turbo engines are good for real world MPGS.
Jonathan Washington .....you get the lead foots that yell... Look at my turbo!!
Chris Biz Nope they give good mpg in vehicles with lighter kerb weight,
Currently Fusion is heaviest sedan of all midsize sedans
The current Fusion Titanium AWD is as heavy as a full size Chevy Impala v6
Hey Roman. I have a question for you. Did they say if the twin scroll turbo engine will be going into the Focus ST?
The coolest thing is we offer all the choice, thats the best part
Ford just is simply amazing nowadays
I would have loved to see the new 2.0 twin turbo TDCi engine in the EDGE or at least n the new MKC
Hey Roman Question for you, Can I fit a 5.2-liter 8-cylinder engine; 526 hp, 429 lb-ft; 6-speed manual transmission in an Ford Edge?
You should have asked him why they didn't do a small ecoboost V8 in the GT. I think that would have been a wiser choice than a V6
what about cilinder crack and coolant leack in to cylinder? what about exaust manifold crack ?
Please camera guy, focus on the device being described not the speaker
4:20 you never want to cool exaust gas that enters turbo, hot gas = fast gas more spin more eficiency etc.. Integrated manifold with integrated turbo = problems, cracking manifold is reported so many times, and i understand why. Imagine cracked manifold repair cost 10 000usd ? :D since you need to replace whole engine basicaly...
Oh snap, cooled headers. That's gonna be a bomb marine engine right there, all you'll need is a sealed alternator.
So when I put regular unleaded in these new EcoBoost engines, I will get all 245hp/275ft-lb? Or do the still require premium to actually deliver?
Almost all turbocharged cars require atleast 91 octane. If you put anything lower than that it will cause knocking.
Premium is required
i like how ford made the ford edge, edegy like they have the black strips of metal around the head lights representing eyeliner around edegy peoples eyes.
A real world fuel economy with the 2.0 would be of interest to folk over the pond who tend to buy diesel SUVs
hello upload video info for automatic shift let me know with engine 2.0 can have package 8 speed or 9? let me know thanks
Need a 0-60 time from the Sport. I got one on order and dying to know.
Thanks we'll be happy to test it as soon as we can get in on our test track in Colorado. Please stay tuned.
Good news!!! It WILL do 0-60! Hope that helps!
Hurray a 0-60 in Colorado where at altitude will add 1-2 seconds to the actual time where the rest of the population lives just above sea level. The 0-60's these guys do is crap and not just because they test a mile above sea level.
Adam McGee You're dedication to Stone Age journalism is extremely depressing.
Adam McGee so tell me how many times you are able to pull the 0-60 time your manufacturer tells you your car does? MrKeyboardCommando this guy is just blunt speaking maybe because his ride isn't as fast as he dreams, he needs to get out of the poster and spec sheets and actually drive a car.
Reliable my ass! 15 Ford Edge 2.0L turbo at the shop has had the transmission blow, timing chain is stretched. Tensioner also failed. High pressure DI fuel pump failed. All before 90K miles. Don’t waste your money.
They just started using twin scroll while there are other manufacturers that been using twin scroll in the US
Which mass producer has used twin scroll turbos b4 Ford,
2.7 turbo v6, finally Ford made something that right at the spot. good fuel and decent power. Wonderful. now put it in the mustang!!!
+jamesgjt I just got my 2015 Sport 2 weeks ago and the 2.7 eco engine puts a smile on any face that gets a ride. She sounds nice too.
Brad Luczak well at least it is the sound of a V6 not the 2.3L 4 cylinder from the mustang!!!! good choice man
I have mine and I went toe to toe with a 2008 Shelby gt350 and the edge will launch like a rocket but around his 4 gear he was passing me.
Still think the escape would be cool with the 2.7
I have an old Buick Skylark with the L77 350 4bl and it makes almost 300hp and almost 400ft lbs of torque and it does not suck gas , it does not sip it either.. Depends on how you drive it....It hauls the mail and has no turbos, no electronics, pure mechanical. I do not need a spectrum analyzer or a data scope to do a tune or change the oil. it is made from steel not plastic. It is extremely reliable, tight, stops and handles well and looks bad ass !! Polymetallic Green. You can rebuild just about anything on this car with tools from the kitchen !! now... This guy here is talking about 240 hp from a 2 liter that is way over stressed .. These little engines have to be driven like you hate them in order to make them go. The old Big V8's are way under-stressed and just do not work all that hard to male big power and last a long time for sure. Wonder how many eco boost engines will be around in 40 years.. lol When he talks big gas guzzling v8s with no power, he is talking middle 1970's. 1976 to 1979 or so when the government mandats kicked in and you have 200hp 460 v8s but they still have big torque. But they did suck gas. Late 70's to early 80's were the worst times for american cars. Thanks government !! But if you guys want to buy a Ford Edge with ECO Boost for over 40,000 bucks for plastic! Go for it !! Did you see all those plastic parts on that engines? Cam Phasing , over head cams and on and on and on.. Its looks like a maintenance nightmare !!!
Why didn't they make it aluminum?
AWESOME, 2.7 ENGINE IS VERY.
SNAPPY.😉🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁
PUT THE 2.7 TWIN TURBO IN THE MUSTANG!!!!!!!!111!!!!one!!!
Dammit Ford.
Have you never heard of a mustang gt that's actually a tuner not a 2.7 liter TT engine SMH. Let's break it down
TT 2.7 V6= 440 lbs (raw weight) 325 hp and 375 lb ft
NA 5.0l V8=444 lbs (raw weight) 435 hp and 400 lb ft
This doesn't take into account it's easy easier to tune a v8 plus it's proven reliability over the often recalled and proven unreliable "Ecoboost".
Maybe if ford was legitimately retarded they Would listen to you but I'm sure glad they don't.
Blake Brink Twin turbo engines give a lot better power delivery than a single turbo, inasmuch as they produce power all through the rev range, rather than just in one area of the rev range. This makes for much better performance on the road.
Blake Brink I never said anything about replacing the 5-0 with the ecoboost you dumbass, I meant instead of the 2.3 they should put the 2.7 in the Mustang.
MrKeyboardCommando i already know this and has nothing to do with any of my comments..
Sigrafix using that engine would raise the price of car to a near GT price. the GT is cheap as fuck now because they've been making the 5.0 forever. like i told you the v-8 is better in every possible factor besides fuel consumpation which shouldn't be that big of a factor in shopping these muscle cars(otherwise they wouldn't sell manuals that fuck the stangs fuel economy) . also they shouldn't drop the 2.3 they're trying to use it to replace their 3.7 and make the ecoboost engine stock like on the very ford in this video... i feel like you don't know ford really well or reality for that matter.
In what mad alternate universe did ford think that a turbo 2.0 litre isn't capable of towing? Ford America, go and get taught about towing and the general ins and outs of everything else about cars by ford Europe!! They have brains...
The frame was probably too plastic too handle it
but it was allowed to tow with all the other engine choices..
Where do i go to slap a turbo on the v6
Don't get it. Stay away from the Ford Failure.
I personally would go with the 3.5l for now until they work out all the bugs with the new engines.
....do you know there's lots of bugs? They stress test the hell out of these things. The 2.7 has been out in a more powerful version for a while.
kma...remember the 6.0 Powerstroke? Those were a real success...
Could I put a turbo on the 3.5 2015 edge?
Nah bro you can’t I have one too and wondered
@@jefferym2568 what all can u upgrade ? Just got one 3.5 v6
@@JeremyCrescendo I just kept mine stock there is not much you can do and you can’t install a turbo, maybe a muffler delete if you really wanted. Drives great in snow very fun doing donuts with traction control off
This is great news and still wouldn't buy one. I'd like to see how these things perform with a 100k miles on them. Now would be impresive.
I have one that’s at 95k and still no issues. Regular oil changes and tires plus brakes. The 2.7 twin turbo is a very good engine.
The 2.0Ls are terrible, the heads warp and lets coolant into the cylinders
Sweet:)
wow imagine Eco boost with cylinder deactivation.
Only if Ford could still produce the 427 SOHC Cammer, but Chrysler complain about the engine.
This did not age well. a lot of recalls with eco boost of this gen.
Regular gas and turbo equals terrible reliability and a guaranteed top end explosion. Great idea Ford but you have some work to do.
3.5L FORD EXPLORER
Whats up with this guys haircut. Hard to take someone seriously with a haircut like that
What's wrong with the camara guy 😅
Should of put him on the spot and asked if ford has fixed the carbon build up problems with the ecoboost ! That would of made him squirm a bit lol.
I think the 2.7 is a waste of money, what do you need more horsepower in an edge for? I love big v8s and and more horsepower but come on, in an edge do you really need that?
No. But stay off the boost and this thing doesn't have much power.. Thats the point!! You can put this thing in different modes..
Well,U r not the only person living in this world, a lot of people dont want v8, but needs economy of v6 and more importantly torque, ecoboosts deliver torque in boat loads, to get such kind of torque one will have to make NA engines of at least 2x displacement, thats impossible in business stand point
Also with the EDGE sport if u want u can smoke an annoying Cadillac ATS,Focus ST,BMW 328i,Merc CLA,Audi TT,Audi s5 etc, and yet be in a CUV, which other brand has balls to make a car like this NONE
So Ford just made 1 hell of an impression with new EDGE
i think that torque is what there after more than top end horsepower , the 2.7 has better fuel economy than a 3.5 v6 and would allow alot of low end grunt . otherwise your only turbo option has a 2 liter engine trying to move an suv .. not exactly a great combo .
poplepo3 Actually we just bought a 16 edge with the 2.0eco and it’s has a ton of pull for its size. We went with it for fuel numbers but, it will surprise you when you step on it. And will tow 3500lbs.
7.5 460
The Edge is garbage, and both of those engines are garbage. What kind of idiot engineer thinks it's a good idea to have the exhaust integrated. The only good engines Ford has now are the 5.4 and the PowerStroke.
STFU, U r garbage
5.0 Coyote? I think thats a good engine. My 3.5 Cyclone engine in my explorer has been pretty decent too.
Adam McGee I somehow forgot about the Coyote. You are correct, it is a good engine. Even the regular V6 is good, but when they do things like integrated exhaust manifolds then its time to go back to the drawing board.
Progressive Destroyer I agree thats dumb. Mercedes did that with their 5.5L twin turbo. They integrated the manifold and turbos inside the engine, What a dumb idea, if those turbos bite it I'd hate to see the bill. Same with these fords, putting regular crap gas into a car with a turbo sounds like a recipe for disaster.
Adam McGee VW did it as well with some of the TDI turbos. They had a separate exhaust manifold, but the turbo was built into it. Eventually the aftermarket fixed it. I dont think they will do the same for the Ford. I am sure it will not have a following of people wanting to do anything but drive it.
They lied, they have not sorted out the issues with the Turbo long-term. It's still garbage
Sorry can't beat a Japanese car for reliability.
Very slow 0-100 vw tiguan 240 do 0-100 in 6.7
I will never buy a vehicle with a de-tuned engine. It makes me want to Jeremy Clarkson someone in the face.
When you want the power. when you need the power... drive a Mustang