Mr boss what gets me is no one goes and rescues Arthur when he gets abducted by the O Driscolls, no one goes looking for him, Dutch even says he's sorry for not looking for Arthur smh I think he wanted Arthur out of the way from the start smh
The actor how played Javier said at a convention that he really fought for this moment, were he held his gun up because he loved John and Arthur and didn't wanna aim a gun at his brother's, and Rockstar honored his request.
It would be interesting to see the reaction to the Hosea being at the Arthur's side, but at the same moment if Hosea would be still alive, then Micah would not have such an impact on Dutch or even could be thrown out of the gang. Ahhh soooo many possible outcomes!
They sided with the money. Dutch was the only one left who knew anything about the money as far as they knew. I mean look at RDR they weren't really besties after this scene
The guy that voices Javier asked for his character to point his gun away from them because he didnt think itd be fitting for Javier to turn on Arthur and John like that.
No, the actor wanted to do it, the director was even telling him to point it at Arthur, but he just didn’t want to because he liked the character, so he just points it away.
After playing RDR2 then replaying RDR1, I really do believe Javier was telling the truth. It makes much more sense now. Javier loved them. He rode with them longer than he did with Micah, but he could not betray his leader, their father figure. He was a coward for that. He cared and loved them, but he never had the guts to do right by them.
Most of the characters are depicted that way Javier was wanted by the law and John was the only one who could find him so it makes it more heartbreaking when you have to kill Javier and part 2 makes you realize how extreme and selfish John Marston really is when you realize his reason for revenge seems like a big misunderstanding and he took his abandonment all too personal The game revolves around confused protagonists who kill only because they are misguided by crooked leaders
Not really, I mean at the time, it makes sense he cares for Arthur/John, he goes on several missions with the player and unlike Bill(stupid), micah(snake) or anyone else left alive he actually has a brain and can think for himself. By the time it hits RdR, Javier knows that John is hunting is for him, and even in RdR. He STILL doesn’t point a gun at John and instead tries to run away and avoid conflict. He appears to be betrayed/heartbroken imo when John actually decides to bring him in.
@@Salamander676 John doesn't do it for revenge, he does it cause his family is threatened by the government. Of course he'd take his abandonment personally, he has a fiance and son that need him and Dutch left him to die, I believe Javier didn't know but Dutch had done it already to Arthur. The only true revenge was John killing Micah, and Jack killing Ross. The other killings were done in the belief he'd be able to continue living at his ranch with his family.
Hosea, Lenny and Sean dead, Sadie and Charles away. It really was sad how Arthur's allies were gone when he needed them, in the end he only had his brother John.
Joaquin Amaro Javier is really close with Arthur and John but if you pay more attention to the lore in both games you find out that loyalty is extremely important to Javier and Javier has pledged his loyalty to Dutch, so he will do anything dutch says.
Arthur didn't wanna kill em, just make them recognize the truth and confess, he cared about them as a family and that was his last friendly chat with them, even at the end when he was dying he begged Dutch to use his brain
I heard the actor playing Javier, Gabriel Sloyer, did it intentionally. He felt that Javier wouldn't aim a gun at his "brothers". Rockstar initially obejected, but Sloyer ended up winning in the end.
ik i played rdr2 and rdr1 and they are by far the best characters that rockstar made well i am a pretty solid rockstar fan so i can compare pretty much all their characters.FaCts
Maybe while Javier was looking out for Pinkertons he missed that whole exchange when Arthur confronted Micah. Arthur called Javier while he hadn’t known what happened and the odds were in Dutch’s favor. Arthur called Bill too.
1UP all I do know is I tried interacting with him in the cap in arbiters final moments and they were all so jerky and sarcastic to him,and I was at full honor level
The most torn member of the gang would've been Charles if he had been there. Charles was very loyal to Dutch but had also developed a very close friendship with Arthur. Also, seeing the dynamics and interactions of Javier in RDR2 and seeing the cut scene from RDR1, it makes that scene so heartbreaking. The betrayal Javier must have felt. Javier risked freezing to death, falling off a cliff, running into O'Driscolls, wolf attacks to rescue him only to have John tell him it didn't mean shit.
Yeah and considering characters who were alive and just weren't there all of them would of backed Arthur except maybe Karen so if so many hadn't died or left maybe Arthur could've lived a little longer
Charles, Lenny, and Sadie would have been on Arthur's side. The others all hated Micah, but not necessarily enough to go against Dutch. Sean liked Arthur, but felt disrespected by him. And as for Keiran, Arthur was constantly abusing him and reminding him that he was an outsider. Hell, Arthur had Bill pretend to castrate him. So there's no guarantee that either would stand with Arthur against Dutch. Tilly, Mary Beth, and Molly probably would have agreed with Arthur, but stood to one side and gone with the whoever won.
@@imperialdebauchery5988 nah Sean was never disrespected by Arthur. Arthur even wrote in his journal that he saw Sean as an annoying little brother but loved him regardless. Arthur enjoyed Kieran.
If you look real close, Arthur was scratching his junk to signal Javier,Dutch is nuts lol. Seriously dude I liked some of your content,but you are reaching now.
Even before seeing this video, I always believed that Xavier was the most conflicted member of the group. He's a man of principal who values loyalty, but he's also no dummy. He was able to see Micah for the snake he was, and he definitely picked up on Dutch's unraveling. However loyalty is all he ever knew. And in the end, his loyalty to the gang (and more so Dutch) won out over his ability to be sensible..
I wouldn't really say Javier went crazy in the end. Rather desolated and alone. Disappointed and furious. But sad to know that Javier was once a good man, only to see him broken when John had to arrest him in RDR1.
I kinda felt some of the story and character personalities in RDR2 retconned what we witnessed in RDR1. Not in a bad way, mind you. It just makes me wish a remastered rdr1 with some extra added audio & some references to this game could be a thing.
and Sadie and Mrs Grimshaw and Mary-Beth and Karen and Uncle & Sean, they did like Arthur tbh everyone BUT micah, enen Dutch sided with him and John at the 2nd chapter of the epilogue, cus he shot micah and visited arthurs grave
If you go back to the cave in the epilogue you will see Dutch's chest still there but I think you can only see it if you help john escape instead of going back
Its always there even b4 we move to that camp...thats not his chest...the murfee brood or whateva theyre called are at that camp b4 and after we,re there .
That last mission actually brought tears to my eyes. Arthur was slowly changing, but it was too late. If only he would have ran away with Mary before getting TB.
It might have something to do with the fact that, from what I can see, Javier wasn't actually there to see Arthur mention Micah being a rat. It looks as though he was out guarding and scouting, so he might have come back just to see Dutch and the rest of the gang pointing guns at Arthur and Grimshaw, so he just went along with Dutch. Arthur did say many times he was the most loyal in the gang, so maybe Javier not knowing what had happened before he arrived means he just sided with the guy who basically saved him. That might have been why he just stood there for a bit.
I believe Javier left Dutch almost right after and that he definately wanted to side with Arthur and John but he stayed loyal to Dutch and took his side because he believed in Dutch's idealistic ways up and to that point(especially considering John and Javier are/were quite close)Why I think so is at a part where you're riding away with John, Dutch and Micah actually chase you aswell as the Pinkertons but at the cutscene showing Dutch and Micah behind you, you only see Joe and Cleet with them (there's no Javier). Aswell as later on in the epilogue (as John) when you buy one of the news papers it gives you a nod that Javier's back in Mexico(which is confirmed in rdr1)....So I do think Javier did in fact realise what Dutch had turned into in the end and that he also left (what's left of the gang)and fled back to Mexico Same I guess goes for Bill?you dont see him either in the cutscene with Dutch and Micah and he does carryon to form his own gang in rdr1.
Why doesn't anyone talk about how Dutch hits his head in the tram crash and that's the last straw that sends him into madness. Traumatic brain injury turned Dutch full crazy and delusional.
pedro roque you don’t have to slow it down I saw that for like 5 seconds, even when he does aim his gun his hand is shaky like he doesn’t want to do it
Javier was always on the fence, and it was pretty damn smart to have him enter the scene late in order to give him no time to decide and to be forced to role with it. They were ALL family to Javier, so without the group as a whole he was left the scatter to the winds. Interesting character, and quite subtle.
When I first started playing 2 and Javier was introduced again I had high hopes for him because I particularly remember him telling John before John euthanized him was “John I tried looking for you I really did” or something like that…And then #2 ruined that thought
@@meowmeow3778 ,,Its MrBossFTW and today i will release that a mexican outlaw,revolutioner and bounty hunter aim my head in this ten minute long video"
Javier and Charles were definitely my favorite side characters. Sean too Seeing Javier in 1 since I started on 2 it made me think life turn in the most unexpected ways and sometimes good people change
This is why an iP like RDR is so awesome. The actors take on emotional attachment to the characters they play and have real feelings towards other fellow characters/actors. They are often much more faithful than the writers could ever be. The Javier in RDR 2 was a good man compared to many other members. He risked death to save John, and for him to blindly follow Dutch against Arthur and John without any hesitation wouldn’t make sense. I’m happy to see that Javier’s actor knew himself enough to have doubts about betraying Arthur and John. The writers seem more disconnected. Disconnected enough to try to nonsensically create a suddenly “evil” Javier to merely tie him into the perceived evil character that was Javier in the original RdR. The rdr 1 Javier clearly was changed by the notion that his friend John was hunting him without any real provocation in rdr 1. While John had reason to hunt his former friend and gangster down to keep his family safe, he gave no effort to try and save both parties, which i think pushed an older Javier over the edge. Marston, after playing the events of rdr2, shows the gray area of marstons actions in the original game.
Ya I saw Javi not aiming his gun and I though ‘He’s loyal to Dutch but he’s also a true brother to Arthur’ When you look at it, I feel like other than Dutch, Arthur has the most missions with Javier.
It can be also seen in 4:26. After that Dutch and others walks into his line of fire. And after that Javier seems to hesitate, not that it made much a difference with 5 guns against 1. Gun aimed or not I think it was pretty obvious that from 5 that joined Dutch Javier was closest to join Arthur. But as some point he started to value loyalty the most and the target of that loyalty was only Dutch.
You missed an important scene. Before John confronts Javier , he has a talk with someone while he is enroute, and the conversation goes like "Javier was the most affected when dutch lost it".
Seriously what annoyed me in this scene is when micah shot mrs grimshaw and Dutch was like who's betraying me ,I was like are you blind Dutch its micah lol
Even in that scene, he pushes the crate over onto John and he probably could have killed him but he runs. I think of the three, Javier was the only one who still had some semblance of love for John and Arthur. In RDR when you chase him after he jumps out of the window in Presidio, he takes pot shots at you but doesn’t ever really turn and fight. He just keeps running.
If Hosea was still alive, it's likely Micha would've lost. Dutch would've seen that 3 of his greatest allies all agreed it was Micha, and would've moved to help them, with Javier following. Micha and his two cronies who I can never remember the name of would've been shot dead by the 6 (including Susan) and then they've fought off the Pinkertons, got the money, ran, met up with everyone and possibly surivived.
2:46 there’s a horse and a rider peering into the camp but doesn’t enter, is this the Pinkertons or someone else that watched the whole scene play out??
If u did the optional mission with Javier to go fishing you’ll learn the Javier is a person who does what he can to survive I don’t think it was a anything personal against John or aurthur he just went on the side with Dutch cuz he was more likely too live and held the gun up cuz he didn’t want to be the one killing them
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Mr boss what gets me is no one goes and rescues Arthur when he gets abducted by the O Driscolls, no one goes looking for him, Dutch even says he's sorry for not looking for Arthur smh I think he wanted Arthur out of the way from the start smh
You are a blind Men
MrBossFTW what happens when u kill joe or cleet in the final mission? Please answer
Hm. Interesting observation.
The actor how played Javier said at a convention that he really fought for this moment, were he held his gun up because he loved John and Arthur and didn't wanna aim a gun at his brother's, and Rockstar honored his request.
It was amazing
Snorri sveinn orrason edit your stuff I don’t understand grammar
Can you send a link please? I want to see it
It's a shame that this dude makes a ten minute video and doesn't even bother to research this stuff.
Snorri sveinn orrason I wish things with Javier didn't Go down the way they did
i think that hosea and Lenny would be on the Arthur's side :(
Without a doubt
It would be interesting to see the reaction to the Hosea being at the Arthur's side, but at the same moment if Hosea would be still alive, then Micah would not have such an impact on Dutch or even could be thrown out of the gang.
Ahhh soooo many possible outcomes!
What about Sean that got shot in Rhodes
Sean too. All of those guys had that bond with Arthur.
Everybody who died would backed up arthur
I can’t believe that after all Arthur did for the gang they would all side with Micah
That's wht snake nature supposed to do... Manipulating...
I feel like im the only one who really played the game bruh 😑 dutch went into a position and micah went behind him
13. thats still them turning on arthur
They sided with the money. Dutch was the only one left who knew anything about the money as far as they knew. I mean look at RDR they weren't really besties after this scene
And Micah is a complete asshole to them too
Micah: * shoots Grimshaw *
Dutch: *WhO iS bEtRaYiNg Me*
Fierce Pierce god damn he’s blind
I literally was like bruh....really
It's so ignorant it almost makes the story horrible lol
Duch just lost his shit
I was so pissed lmao
The guy that voices Javier asked for his character to point his gun away from them because he didnt think itd be fitting for Javier to turn on Arthur and John like that.
No, the actor wanted to do it, the director was even telling him to point it at Arthur, but he just didn’t want to because he liked the character, so he just points it away.
You gave more information than this disappointment of a youtuber
YOZZii where’s this video at then
Why can't some of y'all see that they're telling the truth?
FINALLY someone else other than me knows that
After playing RDR2 then replaying RDR1, I really do believe Javier was telling the truth. It makes much more sense now. Javier loved them. He rode with them longer than he did with Micah, but he could not betray his leader, their father figure. He was a coward for that. He cared and loved them, but he never had the guts to do right by them.
And that's why Javier ran away from the gang and went to Mexico.
@@HKvalhe yep
@@IvanIsYda_ Indeed 👍
He loved all of them he couldn't choose like that
@@ItsMrs.Marston true tho
Micah *murders Miss Grimshaw*
Dutch, 'I'm going to allow that'
Coen Healy-Johnson “I’m gonna pretend I didn’t see that”
Maybe Dutch couldn’t see for a second because of a bug or something. Then after Susan died he could see again and though Susan was just sleeping.
I really liked Javier. I always listen to his singing at the camp fire. ❤️😢
Old Prince me too! I’m bummed he turned bad☹️
Me too
Yeah me aswell he was my favourite after Charles
I really like burritos and he cheered me up when theres no burritos cause and sometimes he majes the burritos
Old Prince wth 😂😂😂
Javier didn't point a gun at Arthur - That's what you came for
thanks dude
11 minute video just for that
You saved my life.
Well I best be getting on
Thank you your straight to the point
He did though when the pinkertons show up
Did anyone else see how big Javier's hat was in Red Dead Redemption.
Same with bill williamson
Micah is better than you Arthur I didn’t want John to kill him either
Yeah, Arthur and John are lame and boring, Micah is hot.
You jerks Arthur and John are bad aces Micah is a big turd
Tilly. Nuff said.
I’m gonna dig up Arthur’s grave and use horse reviver
You will get Morgan horse that you can buy it with less than 10$
Abdullah now this is what I call a blessed comment
That made me laugh
Coz he got horse's loyalty 💔💔
😂 😂
Grimshaw: *gets shot*.
Dutch, the person who loved her and was loved by her: *I’m gonna pretend I didn’t see that shit.*
That was Molly.
@@jamieclarke846 wtf bro that was grimshaw on the video. Molly was killed by grimshaw not micah
@@savagetube808 he's saying that Dutch loved molly not grimshaw
@@Evbot1337 He had relations with Grimshaw in the past
@@savagetube808 he said that molly loved dutch
I think that javier wouldve been on arthurs side but he was scared that dutch would kill him
Eh, I think he still would of been on Dutch's side. he was so blinded by being loyal he did whatever Dutch wanted
I think Javier was kinda on both but since he was devoted to the gang he stuck with Dutch
More like scared of Micah Arthur should've left him to rot in Strawberry.
TimesThree he knew it wouldn’t go well with the gang and especially dutch
yes and he wasn't there when arthur says that micah betrayed the gang
Javier seems like two separate people in rdr1 and rdr2
Most of the characters are depicted that way
Javier was wanted by the law and John was the only one who could find him so it makes it more heartbreaking when you have to kill Javier and part 2 makes you realize how extreme and selfish John Marston really is when you realize his reason for revenge seems like a big misunderstanding and he took his abandonment all too personal
The game revolves around confused protagonists who kill only because they are misguided by crooked leaders
@@Salamander676 im sure theres a similar thing going on in politics, but im not going to go further than that.
Not really, I mean at the time, it makes sense he cares for Arthur/John, he goes on several missions with the player and unlike Bill(stupid), micah(snake) or anyone else left alive he actually has a brain and can think for himself. By the time it hits RdR, Javier knows that John is hunting is for him, and even in RdR. He STILL doesn’t point a gun at John and instead tries to run away and avoid conflict. He appears to be betrayed/heartbroken imo when John actually decides to bring him in.
@Tyler Simmons which is killing him because he is being handed over to be executed
@@Salamander676 John doesn't do it for revenge, he does it cause his family is threatened by the government. Of course he'd take his abandonment personally, he has a fiance and son that need him and Dutch left him to die, I believe Javier didn't know but Dutch had done it already to Arthur.
The only true revenge was John killing Micah, and Jack killing Ross. The other killings were done in the belief he'd be able to continue living at his ranch with his family.
Javier was always one of my favorite side characters. Nice guy, hard working, always optimistic. I wish he could've joined John and Arthur.
Next video mr.boss is gonna "reveal" that Javier is Mexican
Darth Maul Quasar NO DER
No he won't because first he needs to reveal his real name is Javier Escuella
Dwl
Omg lol
Well the j is pronounced as an h
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Yea and u should plays as dutch at the beginning of the van der Linde gang
@@monstrous0579 I think it'd be better if you still played someone who dies but it would be cool to see the beginning
@@cheesestyx945 that's kinda what I was thinking
No
@@VikingFlavored why
I'm actually upset that only John was on Arthur's side. Arthur did everything. Ffs I loved Javier and he had to do that.
Suprising to hear that from you Dutch
Apatez ツ Surprising when you know Dutch years later came back to kill Micah ;)
Dutch Van Der Linde tell me do you still have a plan
I still can’t believe you betrayed me
Hosea, Lenny and Sean dead, Sadie and Charles away. It really was sad how Arthur's allies were gone when he needed them, in the end he only had his brother John.
Some of the dialogue between Javier and John in RDR made it seems like they were quite close.
Especially in the beginning of RDR2 when Javier volunteer to help rescue John when he was lost in the snow.
If you listen to their conversations in the camp around chapters 1-3 ish they are pretty close.
Yea but Arthur holds a grudge against john for abandoning jack shortly after he was born
Arthur does not hold the grudge forever. He does loosen up as the finale starts a coming
Joaquin Amaro Javier is really close with Arthur and John but if you pay more attention to the lore in both games you find out that loyalty is extremely important to Javier and Javier has pledged his loyalty to Dutch, so he will do anything dutch says.
In the first game John says “Javier always was a torn man”
If I was controlling Arthur, I would make an alternate ending by using dead eye and tagging all of them killing the rest of the gang
The thing is i will forgive williamson and javier they are just loyal and a bit dumb (in the case of wiliamson) but i will forgive them
The real good ending
Arthur didn't wanna kill em, just make them recognize the truth and confess, he cared about them as a family and that was his last friendly chat with them, even at the end when he was dying he begged Dutch to use his brain
I heard the actor playing Javier, Gabriel Sloyer, did it intentionally. He felt that Javier wouldn't aim a gun at his "brothers". Rockstar initially obejected, but Sloyer ended up winning in the end.
Well Arthur is still the best character.
And John, two best characters.
ik i played rdr2 and rdr1 and they are by far the best characters that rockstar made well i am a pretty solid rockstar fan so i can compare pretty much all their characters.FaCts
David Manolache you’ve never heard of Jimmy Hopkins bro lol
I think uncles the best character
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Susan's death was the saddest to me, poor woman, almost a mother for the whole gang, she didn't deserve this
Maybe while Javier was looking out for Pinkertons he missed that whole exchange when Arthur confronted Micah. Arthur called Javier while he hadn’t known what happened and the odds were in Dutch’s favor. Arthur called Bill too.
1UP damn I never considered that
Javier was like TF is happening now😒😒😂
This puts the entire video to shit.. kinda funny, yet sad
1UP all I do know is I tried interacting with him in the cap in arbiters final moments and they were all so jerky and sarcastic to him,and I was at full honor level
The actor that played Javier's motion capture said that he didn't aim his gun at them because of their bond
Deleted scene
Micah : * shoots grimshaw *
Dutch : WOSH BREATRIANG MEH
Arthur : him goddamit he just shot Ms.Grimshaw
Dutch : So what?
Babamanga 16 tilly talked about silently murdering mrs grim Shaw in her sleep in chapter 2.......
😂Epico
Lulu Fox ye but that was only cos her, karen and Mary Beth felt like she was always judging them and poking fun at them all the time
Dutch: so what? she's a damn nag
He has a plan!
The most torn member of the gang would've been Charles if he had been there. Charles was very loyal to Dutch but had also developed a very close friendship with Arthur.
Also, seeing the dynamics and interactions of Javier in RDR2 and seeing the cut scene from RDR1, it makes that scene so heartbreaking. The betrayal Javier must have felt. Javier risked freezing to death, falling off a cliff, running into O'Driscolls, wolf attacks to rescue him only to have John tell him it didn't mean shit.
"Black Lung, you're back. Hooray."
Some way to talk to your obviously dying “family”, huh?
We all love Arthur❤️
i cried the THIRD time i completed rdr2
@@doubtful3012 I cry thinking about Arthur
Dutch Van Der Linde what’s the plan dutch
@@yep8109 you dint care about Arthur you went with micah
Okay, let’s think about this. Everyone that died In the chapters would’ve been on Arthur’s side. Not sure about Mac and Davey bUT YEaH
Mac, Davey and Jenny all would've been. I know they were okay fellers and didn't like Micah too much.
Yeah and considering characters who were alive and just weren't there all of them would of backed Arthur except maybe Karen so if so many hadn't died or left maybe Arthur could've lived a little longer
Charles, Lenny, and Sadie would have been on Arthur's side. The others all hated Micah, but not necessarily enough to go against Dutch.
Sean liked Arthur, but felt disrespected by him. And as for Keiran, Arthur was constantly abusing him and reminding him that he was an outsider. Hell, Arthur had Bill pretend to castrate him. So there's no guarantee that either would stand with Arthur against Dutch. Tilly, Mary Beth, and Molly probably would have agreed with Arthur, but stood to one side and gone with the whoever won.
@@imperialdebauchery5988 i think sean would’ve definitely been on Arthur’s side he seemed to like him more then the others in camp
@@imperialdebauchery5988 nah Sean was never disrespected by Arthur. Arthur even wrote in his journal that he saw Sean as an annoying little brother but loved him regardless. Arthur enjoyed Kieran.
If you look real close, Arthur was scratching his junk to signal Javier,Dutch is nuts lol.
Seriously dude I liked some of your content,but you are reaching now.
He is a content stealer
😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂
No he really isn't the actor who played Javier went on to say that he didn't aim his gun at John and Arthur because they were his brothers
Kim Emmerich so they used motion capture? I see I never knew that
Arthur: sneezes
Dutch: I hAvE a pLAn
Luca Knowles nah
Arthur : **exist**
Dutch : wHo iS bEytrAyiNg mE
is this how covid started?
Even before seeing this video, I always believed that Xavier was the most conflicted member of the group. He's a man of principal who values loyalty, but he's also no dummy. He was able to see Micah for the snake he was, and he definitely picked up on Dutch's unraveling. However loyalty is all he ever knew. And in the end, his loyalty to the gang (and more so Dutch) won out over his ability to be sensible..
"Javier goes on to say this"
mrbossftw: plays a 3 minute cutscene to lengthen out his video
That’s what he always does
Only way to get paid lol
I never understood why people complain about UA-camrs stretching out videos like thats not the only way to make money
The actor for Javier states that he didn’t want to shoot his “brothers”
I think Javier is the one of the best characters in the band . I really think that he is a good men . He is just blind cause of loyalty
So the break up of the gang is what drives Javier crazy in Red Dead Redemption 1?
It drives everyone crazy for whom side Dutch
I wouldn't really say Javier went crazy in the end. Rather desolated and alone. Disappointed and furious. But sad to know that Javier was once a good man, only to see him broken when John had to arrest him in RDR1.
I kinda felt some of the story and character personalities in RDR2 retconned what we witnessed in RDR1.
Not in a bad way, mind you. It just makes me wish a remastered rdr1 with some extra added audio & some references to this game could be a thing.
djmankiewicz _ a remake with less ‘GTA5 Dock Worker mission’ type shit-missions would be nice too
And with references to Arthur specifically.
The people I would think choose Arthur’s side was Charles,Lenny,Hosea, and basically anyone else that left
Other than Sean and maybe uncle
Uncle probably would have just sat there in the cave hiding somewhere
and Sadie
and Mrs Grimshaw
and Mary-Beth
and Karen
and Uncle & Sean, they did like Arthur
tbh everyone BUT micah, enen Dutch sided with him and John at the 2nd chapter of the epilogue, cus he shot micah and visited arthurs grave
kieran
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Uncle is "the one shot kid", or so he says
Aka red harlow
right
@@Salamander676 red harlow looks like uncle and fits the time but red harlow has the same scar as john so we don't know who it is
I don't think mrbossftw ever played the epilogue
If you go back to the cave in the epilogue you will see Dutch's chest still there but I think you can only see it if you help john escape instead of going back
Its always there even b4 we move to that camp...thats not his chest...the murfee brood or whateva theyre called are at that camp b4 and after we,re there .
slutta duck what? That’s dutch chest.
@@spookyquinnie3293 all im sayin is that shit there when i just went der in ch2 ..murfee gang was all uo in der
The money is only there if you go back for the money. If not then its just a chest like before.
That is Dutch's chest. Abigail says she hid it there in the cave.
That last mission actually brought tears to my eyes. Arthur was slowly changing, but it was too late. If only he would have ran away with Mary before getting TB.
5:15 *"I found that to be very interesting."* He finds everything interesting.
I feel like Javier doesn’t aim the gun because he has respect for Arthur he saved John with him and saved my booze too
AYYYYYYYYYY Lumbago man
Hello uncle
How is your terminal lumbago uncle
Hey uncle!!!
@@walterwhite2697 Hey pa!
It might have something to do with the fact that, from what I can see, Javier wasn't actually there to see Arthur mention Micah being a rat. It looks as though he was out guarding and scouting, so he might have come back just to see Dutch and the rest of the gang pointing guns at Arthur and Grimshaw, so he just went along with Dutch. Arthur did say many times he was the most loyal in the gang, so maybe Javier not knowing what had happened before he arrived means he just sided with the guy who basically saved him. That might have been why he just stood there for a bit.
3:18 and 3:47
Those guitar solos though
Brilliant arnt they
Moral of the story:the Mexicans keep it real
I can confirm thisb
Claro que si amigo
The only people saying anything positive about Mexicans are Mexicans. I wonder why they have to toot they own horn?
@@vikutaa I am spaniard, guess you are wrong lmao
Not really arthur was the real guy here so the only real one was john who backed arthur up
I believe Javier left Dutch almost right after and that he definately wanted to side with Arthur and John but he stayed loyal to Dutch and took his side because he believed in Dutch's idealistic ways up and to that point(especially considering John and Javier are/were quite close)Why I think so is at a part where you're riding away with John, Dutch and Micah actually chase you aswell as the Pinkertons but at the cutscene showing Dutch and Micah behind you, you only see Joe and Cleet with them (there's no Javier). Aswell as later on in the epilogue (as John) when you buy one of the news papers it gives you a nod that Javier's back in Mexico(which is confirmed in rdr1)....So I do think Javier did in fact realise what Dutch had turned into in the end and that he also left (what's left of the gang)and fled back to Mexico
Same I guess goes for Bill?you dont see him either in the cutscene with Dutch and Micah and he does carryon to form his own gang in rdr1.
Also in that mission in rd1 he’s the only one to never shoot at John
Next video by mr bossftw is why Arthur coughs when he is having TB
If you have nothing good thing to say then go and roast Ali A
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That was something good to say of him
ManiDeepu Velivala I would watch that
Why doesn't anyone talk about how Dutch hits his head in the tram crash and that's the last straw that sends him into madness. Traumatic brain injury turned Dutch full crazy and delusional.
If you pause the video at 4:46 in 0.25 speed he is actually aiming the gun
He is, but before he pointed the gun he was hesitant
Yeah I saw that too
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pedro roque you don’t have to slow it down I saw that for like 5 seconds, even when he does aim his gun his hand is shaky like he doesn’t want to do it
If this was based on my life I would’ve stayed on Arthur’s side
Javier was always on the fence, and it was pretty damn smart to have him enter the scene late in order to give him no time to decide and to be forced to role with it.
They were ALL family to Javier, so without the group as a whole he was left the scatter to the winds. Interesting character, and quite subtle.
3:18 is the picture on the case
Wtf why did you call it a case 🤣
Dutch: -Thinks-
Micah: "shoots Mrs Grimshaw"
Dutch:*WhO Is BeTraYiNg mE*
When I first started playing 2 and Javier was introduced again I had high hopes for him because I particularly remember him telling John before John euthanized him was “John I tried looking for you I really did” or something like that…And then #2 ruined that thought
I’m on chapter 3 and I’m sad to actually know how it ends I knew he dies but this is gonna be hard to complete
Javier doesn't aim his gun at Arthur
Next mrbossftw video will be about that Javier is good at fishing
He aimed at the air. On mrboss's head.
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,,Its MrBossFTW and today i will release that a mexican outlaw,revolutioner and bounty hunter aim my head in this ten minute long video"
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Javier and Charles were definitely my favorite side characters. Sean too
Seeing Javier in 1 since I started on 2 it made me think life turn in the most unexpected ways and sometimes good people change
5:45 Javier was lowering his gun at John and Arthur
Mr Boss: Guns were aimed in every direction.
Me: Nobody aimed a gun down🤔🤔🤔
This is why an iP like RDR is so awesome. The actors take on emotional attachment to the characters they play and have real feelings towards other fellow characters/actors. They are often much more faithful than the writers could ever be.
The Javier in RDR 2 was a good man compared to many other members. He risked death to save John, and for him to blindly follow Dutch against Arthur and John without any hesitation wouldn’t make sense. I’m happy to see that Javier’s actor knew himself enough to have doubts about betraying Arthur and John. The writers seem more disconnected. Disconnected enough to try to nonsensically create a suddenly “evil” Javier to merely tie him into the perceived evil character that was Javier in the original RdR.
The rdr 1 Javier clearly was changed by the notion that his friend John was hunting him without any real provocation in rdr 1. While John had reason to hunt his former friend and gangster down to keep his family safe, he gave no effort to try and save both parties, which i think pushed an older Javier over the edge. Marston, after playing the events of rdr2, shows the gray area of marstons actions in the original game.
Javier was my 4th favorite character, after Hosea, Lenny, and Arthur
6:34 Arthur: he may be as dumb as rocks...
After epilogue Uncle: John, the rock farmer.
IntEresTing
I found that so cool! Javier pointed his gun up in the air
8:16 Dutch said that to Jhon when a alligator eat Angelo Bronte
Spell much?
9:28 watch ur language boi
*boah
Pppppputoh! Ppppputo! Oh oh oh ohhhhhohoho
Ya I saw Javi not aiming his gun and I though ‘He’s loyal to Dutch but he’s also a true brother to Arthur’ When you look at it, I feel like other than Dutch, Arthur has the most missions with Javier.
Its thought. I know you tried though
Mr boss don't u mean Arthur's last mission instead of rdr2's last mission
No cuz he dies
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Sugar Peas it is the last mission, the rest is just a 2 Part Epilogue
No Arthur was the whole meaning of the game
Zorgec rdr2's last mission means the last mission u do
Javier had just arrived, so he didn't know what was going on. Simple as that.
04:41 Javier literally shaking and tryna hold up his gun...
Javier pointed his gun up because he considered John and arthur his brothers
Wow he wasn't aiming his gun at Arthur "BIGGEST THING PLAYERS DIDNT NOTICE"
And unfortunately, he pointing his gun at arthur and john, but the scene was pretty fast (sorry if my English isn't perfect)
I was very surprised when javier stood on Micahs side
I liked javier since the begining of rdr2 so i was disappointed when he betrayed aurther and john
5:16 Javier is aiming his gun, but the light didn't reflect until the light system passed over the scene.
It can be also seen in 4:26. After that Dutch and others walks into his line of fire. And after that Javier seems to hesitate, not that it made much a difference with 5 guns against 1.
Gun aimed or not I think it was pretty obvious that from 5 that joined Dutch Javier was closest to join Arthur. But as some point he started to value loyalty the most and the target of that loyalty was only Dutch.
You missed an important scene. Before John confronts Javier , he has a talk with someone while he is enroute, and the conversation goes like "Javier was the most affected when dutch lost it".
Durimg chapter 3 theres dialogue in camp about javier arguing whit dutch doubting his philosophy.
It sucks that Sadie and Charles weren’t with Arthur and John because things would have gone differently. :(
from the start of the game I hated Dutch & Micha always try to shoot them both but game wouldn't let me
The voice actor for Javier explained why at a con when asked
Seriously what annoyed me in this scene is when micah shot mrs grimshaw and Dutch was like who's betraying me ,I was like are you blind Dutch its micah lol
11 minute video just for Javier to not point a gun at Arthur. Wow
Rockstar let Javier's actor do that MrBossftw, because he kept telling them, I can't aim at them they are my brother.
Even in that scene, he pushes the crate over onto John and he probably could have killed him but he runs. I think of the three, Javier was the only one who still had some semblance of love for John and Arthur. In RDR when you chase him after he jumps out of the window in Presidio, he takes pot shots at you but doesn’t ever really turn and fight. He just keeps running.
Do if arthur Morgan finds trevor Phillips after he follows the time traveller to Los Santos something CRAZY HAPPENS
@Larzarius Nash no
Of course it’s not possible because this is RDR 2 not GTAV
Yes I noticed it the first time, it was interesting. Also I believe lenny, Hosea would of been team Arthur.
If Hosea was still alive, it's likely Micha would've lost. Dutch would've seen that 3 of his greatest allies all agreed it was Micha, and would've moved to help them, with Javier following. Micha and his two cronies who I can never remember the name of would've been shot dead by the 6 (including Susan) and then they've fought off the Pinkertons, got the money, ran, met up with everyone and possibly surivived.
Hey did u know when arthur confronted micha dutch looks back because the pinkertons followed him hope u spotted that its a great detail😊
They did Javier and his beautiful voice so wrong- Arthur Morgan’s hat.
2:46 there’s a horse and a rider peering into the camp but doesn’t enter, is this the Pinkertons or someone else that watched the whole scene play out??
Probably bc they came from that direction:/ (but if it was stranger they were probably like OOOOHHHHH sh*t is going down here guys)
Honestly, this is why I love Javier, despite being on Dutch’s side, he never aimed the gun at John nor Arthur.
Javier was one of my favourite characters in 2 and I hadn’t remembered the story of the first game and immediately just went wrong for me
As you can see here in the backround of this cut seen there is a tree
MrBossFTW: ah very interesting
If u did the optional mission with Javier to go fishing you’ll learn the Javier is a person who does what he can to survive I don’t think it was a anything personal against John or aurthur he just went on the side with Dutch cuz he was more likely too live and held the gun up cuz he didn’t want to be the one killing them
Jaiver wasn't aiming his gun at arthur. Just saved your time.
No, he pointing his gun at arthur and john too, the scene was pretty fast (sorry for my English)
Pretty sure everybody knows this especially if U “Completes The Game”💯🤷🏽♂️🤣
Not necessarily cos I didn't notice
I wish Javier joined Arthur’s side. Like he definitely seemed like a person on Arthur’s side
I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t at least a bit impressed that you could drag out the fact that javier was hesitant
Anything for that 10+ minute video.