Hello can you please do a video how to communicate with the ATC in case when both pilots would be unconscious. Maybe one more video like how to set an new airport around with an ILS runway to get the airport down in the savesd way? I now this scenario is very unlikely but I would love to be prepared.
Well I have seen this FO in other similar Mountour Pilot cockpit videos struggeling with the flaps lever. You think he might break the lever pulling that way...
On the 14th May 2024 I was on TG211 from Bangkok to Phuket, nice short flight. On approach to Phuket I noticed a passenger next to me somewhat worried. I found myself speaking to him about the inclement weather and excessive lightning and how pilots are trained to handle these situations. I am a regular traveler on long haul flights, but when we executed a go around my new friend became very scared. Speaking to him during this sequence of events meant that his attention was drawn away from the events outside his window, 80% of what I said to him was information this channel has provided. On our next approach after the initial storm cell had moved away from the airport we landed beautifully and the relief on his face was palpable. He thanked me, I would like to say thank you. Having the insite into the operation of the flight crew helped me, help him.
Wow. What a stress that go-around. The only aircrafts I ever piloted were built by Microsoft, but a go-around there is a much calmer affair. Thank you for the video!
Only missed calling ATC! It's nice to watch other people doing what I do evey day (precovid forlough) always learn something by someone else. Keep up the great content.
This is one of the best instructional videos you have produced yet! I like the comments and legend to show us what you both are doing and why. Thanks Mentour!
"And can I get the reason for the go-around please?" Usually asked by tower or departure at the exact moment when it will cause the most cockpit disruption. Those guys have ESP.
I have noticed in this and many of your other videos of the simulator that the flap control seems to be difficult and fiddly to move. Is that normal in the 737, or just a quirk of this simulator?
F15 and F1 have structure gates for minimising the possibility of selecting a lower flap setting during go around with two or one engine If you notice the stickness come from F15 to F5 and from F1 to Fup Mosti likely a not as accurate design to the realy aircraft making it more difficult for flap selection
Very nice and instructional video. I have just finished my APS MCC on a 737-800 sim and I found the Go Around manouver one of the most challenging one. Everything happens very quickly and the FD behaviour is quite tricky to understand while you are flying the sim. A video on that would be really appreciated I have bought your Mentour 360 app, and It has been a fantastic help in setting my mind for my sims. It gave me the big picture. Please keep on with these videos. Congratulations, as always!!
As much as I love these videos there comes a time when you have to get off of UA-cam and chase down your dream of becoming a pilot instead of watching it on the internet!
My takeoff from DUB on Oct 20 and especially the landing back on Oct 31 were particularly "rough" (I know they were not really hard but still). During takeoff it seemed like the plane was fishtailing on the runway and had some windshear afterwards (lots of input from the pilot). During landing I actually thought they were going to go-around as the speed was higher than I'm used to and heard the engines spooling up. Imagine my surprise when Mentour actually demonstrates go-around on DUB :D
I have flown one of these sims… and took off/downwind/base/aproach and land on this very runway…it trully and quickly makes you awear how easy it is to forget things…😄
I remember reading/hearing somewhere that the pilot NOT performing the landing keeps their hands on the throttle and has the authority/responsibility to call for a go-around. The logic, as it was explained to me, is that the pilot performing the landing will be focused on making the landing work that they could miss something that makes landing impossible. That the human impulse to complete a task or overcome a challenge will lead them into unnecessary risk. Am I misinformed, or is there something else going on here? Also, I REALLY appreciate the graphics explaining what you're doing and pointing to a control you just used to do it. I'm sure it takes a good amount of work, but it makes a big difference. This feels almost like an actual professional-level introductory instructional video. Thank you.
Another great video 👍 Much appreciated with the descriptions of what you were doing. A bit more to think of in a commercial jet compared to a Piper PA28 😄
Mentour, it always looks like a struggle to set the flaps, especially when it needs to be done quickly. Is this by design, or could there be a better mechanism?
I never believed the day would come when the multi-million dollar pilot training simulators would be caught by the consumer-grade ones, but in terms of scenery & weather, they seem to have done just that. Indeed X-Plane forms the basis of many of these sims. The US air force used to use vanilla X-Plane 10 until recently, they still might for all I know.
Hi mentour, as a passenger I was landing at Heathrow many years ago, the plane already touched down and we (passengers) were expecting the brakes starting, instead we heard the engines cranking up to full power and the plane lifting up! What a surprise, no one screaming, all calmed, but we wonder what happened? After a while the captain explained that a truck decided to cross ta the end of the runway (!!!!!!!!) and he decided to go around ( thanks to his quick reaction, I might no be writing this).
Approaches like that make you wish more planes had a landing gear setup like the old B-52s have so you could have completed the landing in that attitude. Very cool video, would love to see more.
You pushed the thrust levers straight away. No time for a toga at that point. Great training for crm in a tight and tense (weather) situation where go around is always an option. Excellent as always. Also new video format?
Verry good procedure. Flying aircraft's is easy to learn, but learn and practice the surroundings is the difficult part. A good pilot is always learning.
I honestly wish it was feasible for you to do your video's from the flight sim, I know that is imposable but it would be amazing to see what was actually was going wrong for pilots in your videos. Love the channel bud keep posting stuff it is all absolutely amazing
It looked like the FO was having difficulty setting flaps each time. Is that control really that challenging to operate, was it just this particular simulator, or was it because of something else?
Early in the video it says there's a 37kt crosswind. From what I'm finding on a Google search, the maximum crosswind component for a 738 is 33kt. In real life wouldn't you need to request a hold before even beginning the approach and wait until conditions improve?
Good point. When he said "at the moment" maybe he meant at that height, which was about 600ft? In which case you'd expect it to be quite a few knots lower on the ground, and backed slightly, i.e. less crossed than higher up. I'm assuming this, but you know what they say about assuming.... ;)
In simulator video, the right seat has difficulty setting flaps. I have noticed this with other Mentour videos. Is there a problem with the simulator flaps lever?
This is one sticky flaps lever... is this what you can expect on a factory new aircraft? I know they are somewhat hard to move to not set flaps unintended, but this one seems very hard.
Mentour Pilot mentioned in another comment that it was a problem with the flaps lever in that particular simulator and it was rectified after this video was recorded.
In low GA like 50ft do you retract flaps one step. Because the aircraft is in ground effect and could be low on speed, thrust coming up slowly and flight path not established yet.
@@MentourPilot You see lots of landing videos but they never really show you the true perspective of crosswind landing, this vid really showed it, amazing stuff!
Hi Petter! Are pilots set under pressure by companies not to say in Passenger Announcements the truth about reasons why they (the pilots) did certain things like if the pilot did a go around because of his own mistake for example so that the passengers couldn't blame the company for delays (e.g. if one was late anyway and the go around cause the bad extra delay), or are there other reasons that the companies say that you should usually say no clear reason why you did a go around but say just something meaningless or "it was a gust" even when it was not. At my last go around this summer in calm weather it was like this, that the pilot and flight attendants said something, that just meant nothing. I thought "why can't you say clearly what it really was". Doesn't creat trust at me, because I think, in serious situations they also wouldn't say the truth. You would make me really happy if you could tell me the 3 most common reasons for a go around (in a 737) (at Stansted) if the weather is fine.
I've been trying to understand track vs heading. I understand that the heading is the direction the plane is pointing while the track is the direction the plane is flying due to wind. When ATC gives you a "heading" to fly, do you enter it as your heading or track? I'm still a bit confused. I've seen where the ND (depending on mode) can be a "track up" or "heading up" display. If it is in "track up" mode and ATC gives you a heading, what do you actually enter on the MCP? So you see why I'm a bit confused. Thanks.
When ATC give you a heading, you always fly the heading. If they subsequently want you on a different heading to adjust your track, they will give you a new heading to fly. Nice and easy :) The MCP window is always for entering heading. The MAP mode shows Track Up so that the direction of travel across the ground is straight up, for ease of picturing where the aircraft is going during the cruise. Hope this helps
I wonder do your colleagues get nervous flying sim with you with your role as a check pilot :D I imagine it’s akin to taking your friend who’s a driving examiner out shopping in your car lol
What was the final deciding factor for TOGA, and as I'm not fully compliant on checklists, why was a after take off checklist used? Is their not a TOGA checklist?
Also, I know the rule is fly, navigate, communicate. When the climb is stable would you not then have to declare to ATC a missed approach/rejected landing or TOGA?
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Awesome video
Hello can you please do a video how to communicate with the ATC in case when both pilots would be unconscious. Maybe one more video like how to set an new airport around with an ILS runway to get the airport down in the savesd way? I now this scenario is very unlikely but I would love to be prepared.
What its the 737 Mach cruise number?
An epic battle between the second pilot and the flaps. Flaps almost won.
Quietly adding a can of WD-40 to the minimum equipment list in his head
My minimum equipment list for daily life includes a bottle of WD-40 and a roll of duct tape. You never know.@@mattd6085
I thought he was gonna throw the flaps out the window for a moment there.
Haha!
@@MentourPilot again, another badass video by the greatest pilot UA-camr
Well I have seen this FO in other similar Mountour Pilot cockpit videos struggeling with the flaps lever. You think he might break the lever pulling that way...
This illustrates just how truly ‘busy’ the cockpit is ... especially during to & Landing! Thanks!
On the 14th May 2024 I was on TG211 from Bangkok to Phuket, nice short flight. On approach to Phuket I noticed a passenger next to me somewhat worried. I found myself speaking to him about the inclement weather and excessive lightning and how pilots are trained to handle these situations. I am a regular traveler on long haul flights, but when we executed a go around my new friend became very scared. Speaking to him during this sequence of events meant that his attention was drawn away from the events outside his window, 80% of what I said to him was information this channel has provided. On our next approach after the initial storm cell had moved away from the airport we landed beautifully and the relief on his face was palpable. He thanked me, I would like to say thank you. Having the insite into the operation of the flight crew helped me, help him.
Wow. What a stress that go-around. The only aircrafts I ever piloted were built by Microsoft, but a go-around there is a much calmer affair.
Thank you for the video!
Nice! Love these new annotated maneuver videos! This clarified so many things I didn't quite get, thanks for posting!
Thank you for watching!
Eyy! Always love when you're in the full motion sim!
Enig
Only missed calling ATC! It's nice to watch other people doing what I do evey day (precovid forlough) always learn something by someone else. Keep up the great content.
Aviate, navigate, communicate
in my company you call atc when you select flaps up (time permitting). Aviate, Navigate, Communicate!!!
Amazingly I took Autopilot course few weeks back, and this really helped me to see how go around is executed. Thank you for the amazing video.
This is one of the best instructional videos you have produced yet! I like the comments and legend to show us what you both are doing and why. Thanks Mentour!
That was great! There’s a lot going on in the cockpit, and you two look professional and competent.
Give this FO a cookie. And a can of WD40
And a bottle of WD40 🤣🤣 🥇
Maybe a dumbell.
- Can you give me Anxiety 50,000
- Anxiety 50,000
Check
"And can I get the reason for the go-around please?" Usually asked by tower or departure at the exact moment when it will cause the most cockpit disruption. Those guys have ESP.
flip some switches say check allot and look cool.... I could be a pilot easy 😎
That’s what we do!
@@MentourPilot your are lucky with this beautiful job
I have noticed in this and many of your other videos of the simulator that the flap control seems to be difficult and fiddly to move. Is that normal in the 737, or just a quirk of this simulator?
Quirk of this sim
I asked this same question. I'll go delete my post since the answer is here.
Thanks for asking this question, 'cos I was wondering the same thing.
Give them good practice in case the real thing happens
F15 and F1 have structure gates for minimising the possibility of selecting a lower flap setting during go around with two or one engine
If you notice the stickness come from F15 to F5 and from F1 to Fup
Mosti likely a not as accurate design to the realy aircraft making it more difficult for flap selection
Very nice and instructional video. I have just finished my APS MCC on a 737-800 sim and I found the Go Around manouver one of the most challenging one. Everything happens very quickly and the FD behaviour is quite tricky to understand while you are flying the sim. A video on that would be really appreciated
I have bought your Mentour 360 app, and It has been a fantastic help in setting my mind for my sims. It gave me the big picture. Please keep on with these videos.
Congratulations, as always!!
I 've been waiting for this all week
Please do more of these! Amazing!
As much as I love these videos there comes a time when you have to get off of UA-cam and chase down your dream of becoming a pilot instead of watching it on the internet!
Go for it man! The Airline Pilot Club opens its doors on Monday!
@@MentourPilot Really? That's awesome. I just remembered it's been a while since I heard from you guys. Really looking forward to airline pilot club!
Very cool!!! Loved seeing that in action!!!! Stay safe!!!!
Appreciate the annotated and clear videos, helps a bunch with building up knowledge. Very well done as usual, Petter.
I’m just a low time private pilot, but I admire how your conduct yourself😀❤️🇺🇸
My takeoff from DUB on Oct 20 and especially the landing back on Oct 31 were particularly "rough" (I know they were not really hard but still). During takeoff it seemed like the plane was fishtailing on the runway and had some windshear afterwards (lots of input from the pilot). During landing I actually thought they were going to go-around as the speed was higher than I'm used to and heard the engines spooling up.
Imagine my surprise when Mentour actually demonstrates go-around on DUB :D
Awesome demonstration of top notch piloting knowledges, skills and abilities. 👍😎👍
I have flown one of these sims… and took off/downwind/base/aproach and land on this very runway…it trully and quickly makes you awear how easy it is to forget things…😄
Cool. So organized.
Hey, Mentour! I just received my “Positive Attitude” t-shirt today! Love it!
Awesome! Send in a picture to us and you might be featured on out Fb page
Hello Mentour, I really enjoy watching your videos. Have a great day and fly safe!
Awesome! Thanks for the awesome video!
Really amazing to see a cockpit video :D
plot twist:the fo had to get treatment for his hand from the flaps ;)great vid mentour
Nice!! thanks for sharing.
Outstanding
Thank you so much for the great content learned many things from it. It would be amazing if you could post such videos more !
On the way
That was great, give us more.... Thanks
I will do what I can!
Holy crap that got busy!
I remember reading/hearing somewhere that the pilot NOT performing the landing keeps their hands on the throttle and has the authority/responsibility to call for a go-around. The logic, as it was explained to me, is that the pilot performing the landing will be focused on making the landing work that they could miss something that makes landing impossible. That the human impulse to complete a task or overcome a challenge will lead them into unnecessary risk. Am I misinformed, or is there something else going on here?
Also, I REALLY appreciate the graphics explaining what you're doing and pointing to a control you just used to do it. I'm sure it takes a good amount of work, but it makes a big difference. This feels almost like an actual professional-level introductory instructional video. Thank you.
The pilot who is performing the landing keeps his/her other hand on the thrust levers.
Fascinating video.
Glad you liked it
Another great video 👍 Much appreciated with the descriptions of what you were doing. A bit more to think of in a commercial jet compared to a Piper PA28 😄
Glad you enjoyed it
Lovely.
Glad you liked it
@@MentourPilot liked it im Fascinated.
I'll like it to be in the Sim.
More videos like this please!!!
There will be more to come
Mentour, it always looks like a struggle to set the flaps, especially when it needs to be done quickly. Is this by design, or could there be a better mechanism?
This is just a wonky simulator. Normally they flow smoothly
@@MentourPilot Good to know!
Love planes
Did anything cause the go-around or did you plan on doing it to simulate the scenario for the F/O?
It was planned as an exercise
Practice practice
@Sophia Agape No
Great video.☺️
Wow! You built a 737 simulator in your garage! The flap lever needs a bit of grease or the rough edges need filing down. Or was that a body-double FO?
LOL!
Post more like this videos!!
Get the techs to check the controls on your sim. Every time you show a flight, the flaps look like they need the Hulk to set them.
It was all shot during the same session. We got it sorted after
@@MentourPilot Thanks for replying. And kudos to your second for staying calm enough to continue the sequences ;-)
I never believed the day would come when the multi-million dollar pilot training simulators would be caught by the consumer-grade ones, but in terms of scenery & weather, they seem to have done just that.
Indeed X-Plane forms the basis of many of these sims. The US air force used to use vanilla X-Plane 10 until recently, they still might for all I know.
Amazing video, pls more like it
love your vids sir
TFW mentour goes for go around in a better approach than I've ever had (flight simming, of course).
,that was an intense go around. Never knew you could be that low and safely throttle up and gain altitude again. What a beast those engines are.
You can actually go around even from the ground, as long as the reversers haven’t been deployed.
Hi mentour, as a passenger I was landing at Heathrow many years ago, the plane already touched down and we (passengers) were expecting the brakes starting, instead we heard the engines cranking up to full power and the plane lifting up!
What a surprise, no one screaming, all calmed, but we wonder what happened? After a while the captain explained that a truck decided to cross ta the end of the runway (!!!!!!!!) and he decided to go around ( thanks to his quick reaction, I might no be writing this).
That was awesome.
very nice video!
Glad you liked it!!
Approaches like that make you wish more planes had a landing gear setup like the old B-52s have so you could have completed the landing in that attitude.
Very cool video, would love to see more.
Adds a lot of weight and complexity, a go-around is safer
Love how short it was
I made it specially for FB, hence the length
Awesome!
Great video.
Merry Go Round
You pushed the thrust levers straight away. No time for a toga at that point. Great training for crm in a tight and tense (weather) situation where go around is always an option. Excellent as always.
Also new video format?
So cool.
Verry good procedure. Flying aircraft's is easy to learn, but learn and practice the surroundings is the difficult part. A good pilot is always learning.
A good practitioner of ANY profession is always learning :)
I honestly wish it was feasible for you to do your video's from the flight sim, I know that is imposable but it would be amazing to see what was actually was going wrong for pilots in your videos. Love the channel bud keep posting stuff it is all absolutely amazing
Were you practicing the go-around? It looked like a stable approach...
Yep, this was to demonstrate a balked landing
It was a planned exercise :)
i imagine practicing go arounds by intentionally screwing up beforehand is not ideal.
This is some high tech simulator compared to the one at my school 😂
Are the flap controls in the aircraft as difficult to operate as in this simulator?
Would you mind showing the MCAS simulation in the Sim when it comes about.
It's still madness that it wasn't part of Max sim from the start, and they wonder how glitches in it were not caught.
@@plasmaburndeath Did the MAX even require sim training? I thought not.
@@maxxiong There are few max sims for new pilots who have no experience on previous 737 models.
He does have a runaway trim video, which is basically the same issue and has the same solution
It looked like the FO was having difficulty setting flaps each time. Is that control really that challenging to operate, was it just this particular simulator, or was it because of something else?
Just this simulator
@@MentourPilot Good. I was a little worried. :)
Early in the video it says there's a 37kt crosswind. From what I'm finding on a Google search, the maximum crosswind component for a 738 is 33kt. In real life wouldn't you need to request a hold before even beginning the approach and wait until conditions improve?
Good point. When he said "at the moment" maybe he meant at that height, which was about 600ft? In which case you'd expect it to be quite a few knots lower on the ground, and backed slightly, i.e. less crossed than higher up. I'm assuming this, but you know what they say about assuming.... ;)
Today happened on my flight Burbank to Boise
When are you meant to take flaps 5? You where still below the white and also green f15 bug?
In simulator video, the right seat has difficulty setting flaps. I have noticed this with other Mentour videos. Is there a problem with the simulator flaps lever?
Yep, we filmed all those videos on the same day and the flap selector was fixed after the session
This is one sticky flaps lever... is this what you can expect on a factory new aircraft? I know they are somewhat hard to move to not set flaps unintended, but this one seems very hard.
I was wondering the same thing, it seemed like the copilot was struggling with it.
It’s the sim, we got it fixed after
@@MentourPilot Thank you
Yeah. You need a co pilot just to handle that flaps lever. Would not want to fly while contending with that flaps lever solo.
Are the flaps always that hard to change? Or is it him? Or the simulator? I've noticed that in many videos...
Mentour Pilot mentioned in another comment that it was a problem with the flaps lever in that particular simulator and it was rectified after this video was recorded.
@@Eternal_Tech Thank you! I must have missed that....
In low GA like 50ft do you retract flaps one step. Because the aircraft is in ground effect and could be low on speed, thrust coming up slowly and flight path not established yet.
Was it just the perspective of the camera or could you really see the crabbing angle of approach? Imagine coming in to land at 15 degrees!
You can definitely see it
@@MentourPilot You see lots of landing videos but they never really show you the true perspective of crosswind landing, this vid really showed it, amazing stuff!
I don't think I've ever had a non-windy approach into Dublin before ;)
Hi Petter! Are pilots set under pressure by companies not to say in Passenger Announcements the truth about reasons why they (the pilots) did certain things like if the pilot did a go around because of his own mistake for example so that the passengers couldn't blame the company for delays (e.g. if one was late anyway and the go around cause the bad extra delay), or are there other reasons that the companies say that you should usually say no clear reason why you did a go around but say just something meaningless or "it was a gust" even when it was not. At my last go around this summer in calm weather it was like this, that the pilot and flight attendants said something, that just meant nothing. I thought "why can't you say clearly what it really was". Doesn't creat trust at me, because I think, in serious situations they also wouldn't say the truth. You would make me really happy if you could tell me the 3 most common reasons for a go around (in a 737) (at Stansted) if the weather is fine.
I've been trying to understand track vs heading. I understand that the heading is the direction the plane is pointing while the track is the direction the plane is flying due to wind. When ATC gives you a "heading" to fly, do you enter it as your heading or track? I'm still a bit confused. I've seen where the ND (depending on mode) can be a "track up" or "heading up" display. If it is in "track up" mode and ATC gives you a heading, what do you actually enter on the MCP? So you see why I'm a bit confused. Thanks.
When ATC give you a heading, you always fly the heading. If they subsequently want you on a different heading to adjust your track, they will give you a new heading to fly. Nice and easy :) The MCP window is always for entering heading. The MAP mode shows Track Up so that the direction of travel across the ground is straight up, for ease of picturing where the aircraft is going during the cruise. Hope this helps
I wonder do your colleagues get nervous flying sim with you with your role as a check pilot :D I imagine it’s akin to taking your friend who’s a driving examiner out shopping in your car lol
You really need to get that flap selector fixed!
They did.
The eternal your-sim-co-pilot-needs-to-workout comment.
Haha!
Don't forget the WD-40 bottle 😉👍.
Oh Peter, what would happen if u would just continue ur landing?
FO's in your company do not touch flaps?
The Flaps Battle 😂
TOGA thrust? Check
Gear up? Check
Spritz of WD-40 on the flap selector? Check
Believe it’s runway 28L now in preparation for the new runway
One thing made me Laugh hard is that F\O struggled so hard to change the Flaps xD
Why Flap lever so jammed xD
It Happens :P
Haha! Yes :) He answered a previous comment, saying that it was a quirk of that specific sim that the lever jams 😜
Is the flap handle really that hard to maneuver?
No, it was just a wonky sim. We got it fixed after the session
Give us more sim videos plsss 🔊🔊🔊🔔🔔
Is this the same video we seen months ago just with out the new editing ?
What are those things between the 2 seats that spin?
They are stabilizer trim wheels. The set the angle of the stabilizer
Whenever I see you on the sim it always seems that when setting the flaps the copilot always "appears" to struggle with the lever ... is this normal ?
It’s the same sim you are seeing. We got the sim fixed after flying this session
This has to be the same video
@@MentourPilot Do you have to pay for using the simulator?
Will we not get a Halloween special this year?
Thank you for amazing video as always. Can someone explain why 5 kt are added to Vref speed and why you add more in case of stronger headwind?
I think there was wind gusts. Normally you would add half the gust factor to Vref to make sure you don‘t get too slow.
What was the final deciding factor for TOGA, and as I'm not fully compliant on checklists, why was a after take off checklist used? Is their not a TOGA checklist?
Also, I know the rule is fly, navigate, communicate. When the climb is stable would you not then have to declare to ATC a missed approach/rejected landing or TOGA?
When do you call ATC for missed approach?