masai geraghty man unfortunately I had to sell that one because I had to move. Without a doubt I will buy another one of these soon. I had that one for a couple of seasons and it was awesome. I took good care of it and it looked great and cooked even better. I highly recommend it. Watch out, they do make a version of this smoker called the wrangler 2 I believe. It’s made with the thinner sheet metal and is a bit cheaper. I’m sure it’s fine for the average guy, but I highly recommend the one in this video with the thick heavy duty steel. This smoker probably weighed about 250lbs+. Even if it gets rust later on, it will still last you a long time, unlike the thinner cheaper models. Good luck man!
After watching this video. I went and bought one. Wow worked awesome. Smoked hotel ribs. Baby back ribs sausage. Moved the fire plate to my main chamber used it like a baffled plate . it worked great for heat control. Many thanks for the video.
I have the same smoker and I like it a lot. I drilled a hole next to the smoke stack so I can run my temp probe through it in stead of smashing the wires with the door. I'm planning on changing out my firebox door to put in a better dampener to refine temp control better. It has been a great smoker.
I am sold on the extra piece of steal you add around the smokestack for table space . Very ingenious. I also have been looking around for the best smoker for myself. You are right about the higher Price smokers on the market today !!!! You get what you pay for . For the past two mouths I have been studying and reviewing web sites and UA-cam. Doing my homework. But I have too say you were very impressive! And I made my decision on buying the wrangler. . Thank you so much ! And also I may add too all that see your video , PLEASE DO YOUR HOMEWORK!!!!!! Thanks and God bless all !!!!👍👍👍👍
Karen Bradley wow thanks that means a lot! I am one of those homework freaks myself, almost to a fault, but it always pays off! I just had the smoker out 2 weeks ago and it is still going strong! Very nice smoker. You won't be disappointed!
I got an original Oklahoma Joe for free from a neighbor. used only a couple times and the guy had everything in foil pans so it was clean just a little rusty from sitting in the shed for 12 years. doing my first cook on it today and I LOVE it. just a little learning curve from my old cheap offset with fire management and the doors need to be sealed up. but she's pretty nice 😎😎
I find it funny that your video popped up on my feed, as I have one of these on order now. Good review. Thanks. My Pecos is on it’s way out, after 6 years. I’m going to a shorter cooking chamber with the Wrangler, but I really like that thicker steel. That work table addition is sweet. I’m actually planning to add a cold smoke box where the exhaust stack is. So, I may just add to the existing table.
I’ve had my Wrangler a few years now. It stays out in the elements. I just painted it with high temp spray paint from WM. It looks new again. It’s perfect for one brisket. I split the point and flat on a brisket a few weeks ago. That’s the best one I’ve done yet. I smoked two turkey breasts for Thanksgiving. Could’ve just as easy done 4. I think it’s the perfect smoker for $500. I’m sure the Pecos or Brazos are equally awesome. It just depends on how big you want and how much you want to spend.
Yeah it’s not huge , but you can still get it done. I have had some of my best briskets with this cooker. I kept mine covered and never had to paint it. But I did with my old one and that paint works like a charm.
I’m just getting started. I bought a Oklahoma Joe as a starter and I already regret it. Thank God I bought used for cheap. The fire box is bolted on and is two pieces which has a seam around it, most people use a high temperature silicone to seal it. There is a huge gap around the smoke stack also. I guess they’re made to be shipped in a box. Thanks for the review. I need something with thicker metal and wielded opposed to bolted. I’m going to look at the old country for a better start.
Your so right, I was looking at a Oklahoma Joes BBQ Smoker also, and decided on the Wrangler instead for most of the reasons you stated in your video. The Longer Pecos one has much thinner metal and was flimsy in comparison, like your modified additional table space. Well done.
Scott, thanks for your review on this. I was very close to going with the Oklahoma joes highland but you are very right about the deficiencies of the Oklahoma joes highland, I can't afford the wrangler but I'm going with the old country pecos. Thanks very much, job well done. Your video made me make my mind up. 💯💯👍👍
Not sure what they are doing today but my Pecos had the same thickness of steel as the Wrangler, just different length. I bought mine in Spring of 2015 - News to me that the construction was of a different thickness - Interesting. Soory, wanted to add, Yes, The Wrangler is a little thicker as far as the body but the Doors are the Fire Box and Smoke Chamber Doors are the same thickness. BTW - I LOVE MY PECOS. 3 Years and still breaking in. Awesome Eats.
Enjoyed you video and I really like the attachment table - I would like to get one of those - I ordered the Pecos from Academy and I will have it here with me in southeast Illinois this weekend. I went to see it in Gulfport, MS while visiting family and attending Mardi Gras. These are some of the best smokers I have seen for the price anywhere - Can't wait too use it some time in May- It's still a bit cold in my neck of the woods - Enjoy - Tell me how to get that table - Thanks
Clarence Dennis congrats man you'll love it, I do. I'm in Detroit now and I definitely wouldn't be cooking either! Me and a friend built the add on table. I went to a steel shop and go a 3/16 sheet( it doesn't need to be that thick, I wish I would have gone a little thinner for weight and easier to cut). I got the 90degree steel corner from Home Depot. And he welded it for me. I painted it with black heat paint and plasti dip. Here's a link to the instructions. www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/148594/old-country-bbq-pits-wrangler-mods
Man I don’t have the dimensions. I think it’s probably 2.5ft x 2.5 feet or so. Really it was so strong you could do whatever dimensions suit your needs. I went on Google maps and searched for metal shop, or metal supplier, or steel shop. In DFW it was called Metal Supermarket. They have all kinds of stuff. Here is the link that I copied the mod from. If this doesn’t work I’ll add it in the description of the video. Good luck www.smokingmeatforums.com/threads/old-country-bbq-pits-wrangler-mods.148594/
Hi Scott, I really liked your fabrication of the side table welded brackets to the exhaust chimney. The only thing I might differ with you is with the placement of the exhaust port to the chimney. I think this port might need to be lower on the steel plate to capture as much flavoring smoke possible as you are cooking. Other than that, I really enjoyed your video very much. Thanks!
japheth96 good man glad you liked it. My brother got the pecos (bigger longer one) and it’s nice too. You can definitely get more on the Pecos. But I just cooked two 12lb briskets on this one.
John Garcia man I had to sell this smoker because I had to move. I pretty much roughed it. I will definitely do it again when I move in to my new house and buy a new smoker. I’ll probably buy this exact setup. It was awesome!
That's a nice smoker for sure. Nice and heavy but it cost more than double what I paid for Oaklahoma Joe's so its not really an apple to apple comparison, but it's a good comparison. I've had a Oaklahoma Joe's for 5 years. I have no mods except for charcoal basket and it works great. I guess we all buy what we can afford. Thanks for posting.
Great review, thanks for posting it. I'm looking to get a new smoker and I was actually leaning towards an Oklahoma Joe because of the price, but I think I'll be getting an Old Country now. 3 years later, how is this smoker holding up?
Anonymous Salamander I actually ended up selling it in May because we are moving and I didn’t want to move that heavy thing. I got the same money I paid for it. It was a very nice smoker and I will buy the same one again for sure! Good luck. The Oklahoma Joes isn’t even comparable in terms of quality.
Firebox is 17x13.75 which I do recommend a little bigger maybe 24x13.74. The smokestack was probably about 6 inches wide. I sold it because we moved and I don’t know exact dimensions.
I am hoping to get one, like yours next week, can I get the dimensions of the plate you added on? I noticed when I was checking these, the flip up table was very flimsy. Great video, by the way. Thank you!
Hey Barry thanks, here is the link to the forum I got the idea from. I just took his picture and roughed the dimensions to make it look similar. I can get the exact measurements if you need them tomorrow. Thanks again www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/148594/old-country-bbq-pits-wrangler-mods
Wow very nice. I personally have the duo char-griller and have done a lot of modifications. I'm in the market for a new more sturdy smoker. Where can I purchase one of these exact same smoker?
Ivan Quintana you might be out of luck with this one. Right now they sell one that looks just like it called the Wrangler II, but it's 299 and it's the thin steel. I've only seen these at Academy sports. I don't know why they did that. The one here in the video is an awesome cooker, I just don't think they sell it anymore.
Nice table! Can you share the dimensions? I saw someone had welded a support between handle and exhaust stack. They were concerned that after time the handle would bend down from the weight of objects over time. What do you think? Also, I have been researching plate steel and not sure what to do here? What grade, cost and dimensions?
I don’t have the dimensions with me, if I can remember I’ll send them to you. You know I don’t store it with the table on it. And honestly this smoker is well built, and this is the handle used to pick up the smoker and roll around, it’s very strong. I don’t think it will bend down any time soon, but if you have a welder handy, it probably wouldn’t hurt just to have extra support. Thanks!
Michael Anders haha that's great! I'm glad I could help. I was stressing out about it. I'm still very happy with my choice. I've cooked ribs, chickens, venison, brisket, pork, and even grilled some nice steaks on the side and everything has turned out awesome!
Good video Scott I was going to get the Oklahoma Joe but now I'm going to get the Wrangler. I'd like to buy a side tray table if you make it that's the best grill mod I've seen yet, smart
kool smoker not bad,you did some up grades,it should last you,one thing that I did wrong was I used those barrel swivels & they tend to freeze up after awhile,the ones on my door ended up breaking off,I now made some swivels with pipe & round bar,jus my 2cents
i have been looking at a new smoker and it has been between OC Wrangler and OJ Highland, might have just made up my mind. I see you made this a few years ago, how has it lasted?
Brad Burgess man it’s been a really good smoker. I take really good care of it. It’s a solid built well made piece. I think it’s WELL worth the extra money over the OJ. Those things just aren’t built like they used to be. Good luck. You won’t be disappointed. My brother bought the pecos, I’d look at that too. It has a little extra room for more stuff to cook.
Wish I had a academy close so I could check them out. Don't like the idea of having something that big shipped. Any damage and having to fight with shipper/ freight company
Hope you have a receipt....that's not 3/16....looks 1/8.....FYI Academy has had their information off on this from time to time. If it was 3/16 it would weigh over 300 pounds. But I love that added side shelf.
+SCOTT DOYLE the way you tell is the pan warmer on the firebox.....it's the same thickness as that plate. The thicker units do not have that Lshaped plate. It will be like a box shaped and the hinges will not be on the top. But see they trick you. They give you a unit with 3/16 doors and make you think the rest it's 3/16 but it's 11 gage which is the same as the OKJ. However she's welded baby. You have a welded unit which is like gold. But having the doors at 3/16 is better than what the rest of the cheaper units have and are made of. Old country are good pits no matter what and by far the best value. But I inspected them thoroughly in the store and noticed that the door was in fact thicker than the plate used on the actual cooker. Your unit weighs in at 225. Which is still pretty heavy. But if it was all 3/16 it would be almost 350.
actually you're right, it's 11ga with 3/16 doors. But it is thicker than OKJ which is 12 ga. Either way I this this is a better smoker, but is also mor expensive.
You done right bro, the Pecos has a 14ga body with a much thicker door. Fyi- Heavy doors have purpose, not just done to fool buyers into thinking the entire grill is made of heavy steel. In truth when you lift a door to move /inspect meat cool air hits both sides of a door and it cools down fast. But' if a doors made of thick steel the door retains heat way better than a thin tin door that must heat back up again. This just effects your grills heat inside a bit more is all. Grill corps know all about this but never offer this extra feature. Of course when a grills body is made of heavy steel the doors already thick anyway. I know the door/body both are extra thick on this nice arse smoker! Hope your still enjoying it freind. I'm about to buy one like it, I'm building a roof over it because my Char-Griller rusted out so damn fast. Thin p.o.s. grill but still a roof would add yrs to any smoker. Similar to a small gazebo I guess? They sell small aluminum frame/tarp style roofs for grills pretty cheap online too fwiw... Hope your CG cover lasted longer than mine that dry rotted really fast. Nice Grill, best brand you'll find in any store thats for damn sure. Appreciate the vid!
Right on Harry Ballz! Thanks for the feedback. Hell yeah man it’s been a great grill. I actually had to sell it because I moved and I didn’t want to haul that heavy ass smoker, but I was at Academy the other day looking at buying the same one again. It’s a great quality smoker. And you are correct about keeping a roof over it. I bought that great cover and I kept it under a roof. I like to take care of my stuff and make it last. Just a little TLC and this thing will last a very long time! Thanks again brother.
shane morton man I had to sell this wrangler because we moved, but the brazos is gonna be my next smoker. That thing is SOLID! Thanks a lot and smoke on brother!
Conrad M both. I like the thicker more heavy duty steel (seems like it will hold up longer), and yes the cooking area is a lot bigger. It’s probably the size of the pecos, but with an upper shelf too.
Conrad M there was one time where I cooked two briskets, and I dint have room for all the ribs and sausage on the top shelf. Don’t get me wrong the wrangler is still one of my favorite smokers of all time.
bro I got the wrangler 2 and its disappointing. besides that it came all bent up from the delivery. now I have to wait for them to pick this one up then I get to repurchase another one. Great customer service. Its a hurry up and wait now.... I did ask if I would receive my smoker before Thanksgiving lol... They said yes lmfao!
Carl Hubbard this smoker in the video is the Wrangler. They started last year making the Wrangler II and it was really thin and not very good, but it was a lot cheaper. But I was in Academy two weeks ago and they brought back the original Wrangler like in this video. It is a fantastic smoker as well as the pecos version. Pecos is $399 and this Wrangler is $499. The Wrangler II was $299.
Not exactly sure what you mean? I just bought the thermometer separately and screwed it in. Does it not just thread into the grill? Is it old country brand?
I would take out that heat deflector completely you don't need it that firebox is low and there ain't no flames that high if you need to cut the flames out put a plate where the upper grate would go and that's below the cooking chamber you're all set You have 3 in for all the heat and smoke to come straight up it's already deflected man
Scott Geiger no it didn’t. But now they make this wrangler 2 with real thin metal. The pecos is still built strong though and it probably has about the same amount of cooking surface as this one because it’s a bigger smoker
Scott Geiger yeah I know my brother was going to buy one and told me. I have no idea why they did that. This is an awesome smoker. I did see one on FB marketplace but it went quick!
Oklahoma Joe smokers are glued on the end caps and not welded. Oklahoma Joes are also bolted with firebox to the chamber. Old Country are welded and not glued. This is too easy!
I bought it on amazon. LAVALOCK. It works very well. very sticky so don't mess up putting it on. I recommend it though. here is the link. www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00JO00S04/ref=ya_aw_oh_bia_dp?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Yes, unfortunately you can't buy this nice, original Wrangler model anymore. The Wrangler 2, that is out now, is vastly cheaper in construction. The wheels are smaller at only 8", the steel is not 3/16 anymore. It's barely 1/8". The Wrangler 2 is not a good buy. It does not seal or hold temp well and I couldn't get the initial temp above 275 on my friend's that he just bought even with split logs and charcoal. The thinner steal radiates too much heat off and out of the cooking chamber. It's always easier to take your initial fire/temperature up to 350 plus and then knock down your dampers to drop the temp down to your preferred cooking range (225, 250, etc.). You can't do that on the new Wrangler 2 model. Clearly Old Country is trying to cut their production costs down by building an inferior product. It's a shame, this used to be a great smoker!
got me an Old Country Wrangler 2.. arrives 3/7/17 hoping its of equal quality cause they didn't have any more wranglers. Wanna make a vid and send it to ya if that's cool \m/
Michael Anders cool man you'll love it. It's been a great smoker. Mine is a year old and still looks new. I sprayed it down with olive oil the other day again and wiped it down. Looks brand new again
Sorry to say that the Wrangler 2 is not anywhere close to the same grill the Wrangler was. They used thinner metal on it now and the barrel is shorter. It's a shame really because the Wrangler was very nice pit
Cravin Morfish I haven't heard of the wrangler 2. Is that something new? Go look at several Academy Sports and see if you can track down an older one. Also look on Craigslist. I saw on in the DFW area for $150. What a shame if they start building these like their competitors.
david crumrine thanks man I wish I would have found you to do it. I just know it’s not that thin steel or foil that char broil uses on their smokers. It’s a nice smoker and I still love it!
Joe Otto if not I went to academy the other day and my brother bought the pecos. I was shocked to see they had this exact wrangler back in stock for 499. I guess enough people complained and they brought it back.
Eric Smith where do you live? I could send you to the places I went to get the stuff. Then I have a buddy who can take it to his work to have it welded. The link below is what I followed. I just guessed on how big to make it. I measured the diameter of the top of the smokestack to figure out how wide to cut the hole around the smokestack. I bought 1- 2 foot bar of 90 degree angled steel. I bought the sheet of steel from a local steel shop. I drilled a bunch of holes and then cut it to fit the smokestack with a grinder. www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/148594/old-country-bbq-pits-wrangler-mods
So you bought this smoker because you didn't want to mod an Oklahoma Joe with a couple gaskets, but you modded this one anyways. I don't get the thought process on this.
N8 Dawg haha sorry you don’t get in N8 Dawg. Gasket had nothing to do with the choice I made. ONE factor was the fire box was WELDED to the cooking chamber, so I didn’t have to mess with that sealant. The main reason I bought it was because this smoker will last a lot longer imo
I have the same smoker and I like it a lot. I drilled a hole next to the smoke stack so I can run my temp probe through it in stead of smashing the wires with the door. I'm planning on changing out my firebox door to put in a better dampener to refine temp control better. It has been a great smoker.
That's a good idea with the probe. What kind of door ar you gonna replace it with? There is another mod for the dampener that you might wanna try before you replace it. I'll try and find a link for it.
Scroll to the bottom of this link page. He has a spring bolt added to his damper. Looks very solid. www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/148594/old-country-bbq-pits-wrangler-mods
+SCOTT DOYLE I was going to make a new door for mine and use 3 or 4 in pipe with flat plate steel welded with a bolt to control air flow, but I may try that mod with the spring bolt. I hadn't thought about that until you sent the link. Hopefully that will work without having to fab a door. Thanks for the idea.
The smoker itself has a little hook built on to it already. They sell the buckets over on the cooking isle at academy. It would be very easy to add a hook if you don't have one.
+SCOTT DOYLE I figured that might have been the case, mine didn't come with a hook though is it welded on? Nice review btw yours is one of the reasons I decided to go with it
+Lawrence Brown thanks man I'm glad it helped you! Yes mine is welded on, but you could drip a hole and add the hook or you could probably bend some kind of coat hanger and put it through the hole and have a hook that would work just as well.
Nicely done Scott! We truly appreciate your business and support..cant go wrong with the Wrangler, or the PECOS for that matter. OCB KEEP SMOKIN!!
Thanks! It’s two years old now and not a single sign of aging! It’s been a fantastic investment!
It is a sign of a great company that will respond or add a comment on a video.
@@daveb3357 your so right first time I think I've seen that from a company 👍👍👍 to them🇨🇦🥓🍻
@@scottsworld21 love the video how is she burning im thinking of getting one .
masai geraghty man unfortunately I had to sell that one because I had to move. Without a doubt I will buy another one of these soon. I had that one for a couple of seasons and it was awesome. I took good care of it and it looked great and cooked even better. I highly recommend it. Watch out, they do make a version of this smoker called the wrangler 2 I believe. It’s made with the thinner sheet metal and is a bit cheaper. I’m sure it’s fine for the average guy, but I highly recommend the one in this video with the thick heavy duty steel. This smoker probably weighed about 250lbs+. Even if it gets rust later on, it will still last you a long time, unlike the thinner cheaper models. Good luck man!
After watching this video. I went and bought one. Wow worked awesome. Smoked hotel ribs. Baby back ribs sausage. Moved the fire plate to my main chamber used it like a baffled plate . it worked great for heat control. Many thanks for the video.
Manuel Martinez man that’s great! You won’t be disappointed it’s a great smoker. That’s why I made the video, glad I could help!
I have the same smoker and I like it a lot. I drilled a hole next to the smoke stack so I can run my temp probe through it in stead of smashing the wires with the door. I'm planning on changing out my firebox door to put in a better dampener to refine temp control better. It has been a great smoker.
bigtruck147 great idea on the smokestack
Like the tray you made, real cool idea. First time i've seen that one.
I’m going to do that tray mod. I think I’ll use aluminum so it will be easier to cut and strong enough for food.
I am sold on the extra piece of steal you add around the smokestack for table space . Very ingenious. I also have been looking around for the best smoker for myself. You are right about the higher Price smokers on the market today !!!! You get what you pay for . For the past two mouths I have been studying and reviewing web sites and UA-cam. Doing my homework. But I have too say you were very impressive! And I made my decision on buying the wrangler. . Thank you so much ! And also I may add too all that see your video , PLEASE DO YOUR HOMEWORK!!!!!! Thanks and God bless all !!!!👍👍👍👍
Karen Bradley wow thanks that means a lot! I am one of those homework freaks myself, almost to a fault, but it always pays off! I just had the smoker out 2 weeks ago and it is still going strong! Very nice smoker. You won't be disappointed!
I got an original Oklahoma Joe for free from a neighbor. used only a couple times and the guy had everything in foil pans so it was clean just a little rusty from sitting in the shed for 12 years. doing my first cook on it today and I LOVE it. just a little learning curve from my old cheap offset with fire management and the doors need to be sealed up. but she's pretty nice 😎😎
I find it funny that your video popped up on my feed, as I have one of these on order now. Good review. Thanks. My Pecos is on it’s way out, after 6 years. I’m going to a shorter cooking chamber with the Wrangler, but I really like that thicker steel. That work table addition is sweet. I’m actually planning to add a cold smoke box where the exhaust stack is. So, I may just add to the existing table.
That’s awesome for the price these are great little smokers. And being able to add your own modifications is a bonus. Smoke on brother! Enjoy it!
I’ve had my Wrangler a few years now. It stays out in the elements. I just painted it with high temp spray paint from WM. It looks new again. It’s perfect for one brisket. I split the point and flat on a brisket a few weeks ago. That’s the best one I’ve done yet. I smoked two turkey breasts for Thanksgiving. Could’ve just as easy done 4. I think it’s the perfect smoker for $500. I’m sure the Pecos or Brazos are equally awesome. It just depends on how big you want and how much you want to spend.
Yeah it’s not huge , but you can still get it done. I have had some of my best briskets with this cooker. I kept mine covered and never had to paint it. But I did with my old one and that paint works like a charm.
I’m just getting started. I bought a Oklahoma Joe as a starter and I already regret it. Thank God I bought used for cheap. The fire box is bolted on and is two pieces which has a seam around it, most people use a high temperature silicone to seal it. There is a huge gap around the smoke stack also. I guess they’re made to be shipped in a box. Thanks for the review. I need something with thicker metal and wielded opposed to bolted. I’m going to look at the old country for a better start.
Yeah it’s hard to beat the Old Country wrangler. That was the best smoker I’ve ever had. So solid compared to the Oklahoma Joe.
Been looking at these for a while and definitely like the tray tip 👍🏼👊🏼
Your so right, I was looking at a Oklahoma Joes BBQ Smoker also, and decided on the Wrangler instead for most of the reasons you stated in your video. The Longer Pecos one has much thinner metal and was flimsy in comparison, like your modified additional table space. Well done.
I've had my Pecos for 3 years and it's far from flimsy
Scott, thanks for your review on this. I was very close to going with the Oklahoma joes highland but you are very right about the deficiencies of the Oklahoma joes highland, I can't afford the wrangler but I'm going with the old country pecos. Thanks very much, job well done. Your video made me make my mind up. 💯💯👍👍
That side tray is brilliant
Yeah it really comes in handy for sure!
Scott..excellent video. Thank you for showing the side plate. I am sure that makes a HUGE difference. Thanks again. Awesome video.
Dave B thanks Man I’m glad you liked it! It’s been a great smoker!
I saw in another video if you take the charcoal tray and turn it 90° it sits higher in your firebox allowing more air flow.
What gasket kit did you use and where did you get it from?
I just ordered my old country wrangler I really like your side tray you added I've got to find someone to make me one
Yeah that was the hardest part, finding someone to weld the brackets. It is awesome though!
Not sure what they are doing today but my Pecos had the same thickness of steel as the Wrangler, just different length. I bought mine in Spring of 2015 - News to me that the construction was of a different thickness - Interesting. Soory, wanted to add, Yes, The Wrangler is a little thicker as far as the body but the Doors are the Fire Box and Smoke Chamber Doors are the same thickness. BTW - I LOVE MY PECOS. 3 Years and still breaking in. Awesome Eats.
Nice job on the video. That side shelf is a great idea! Thanks for the info on the smoker cover.
Your welcome. I'm glad you liked it.
Good video Scott just remember add 16" to your smokestack
Thank you. What does adding 16 inches to my smokestack do?
Your hanging bucket for a grease tray is really smart. I'll soon be using one of these.
Enjoyed you video and I really like the attachment table - I would like to get one of those - I ordered the Pecos from Academy and I will have it here with me in southeast Illinois this weekend. I went to see it in Gulfport, MS while visiting family and attending Mardi Gras. These are some of the best smokers I have seen for the price anywhere - Can't wait too use it some time in May- It's still a bit cold in my neck of the woods - Enjoy - Tell me how to get that table - Thanks
Clarence Dennis congrats man you'll love it, I do. I'm in Detroit now and I definitely wouldn't be cooking either! Me and a friend built the add on table. I went to a steel shop and go a 3/16 sheet( it doesn't need to be that thick, I wish I would have gone a little thinner for weight and easier to cut). I got the 90degree steel corner from Home Depot. And he welded it for me. I painted it with black heat paint and plasti dip. Here's a link to the instructions.
www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/148594/old-country-bbq-pits-wrangler-mods
Great idea on the side tray !
yea man I saw it on a BBQ forum and it makes life a lot easier when you have a bunch of room on the side
Liked the modification very much!!
Any update on the specs/dimensions of the tray plate you added and where would you get a plate of metal from? I really like that idea man!
Man I don’t have the dimensions. I think it’s probably 2.5ft x 2.5 feet or so. Really it was so strong you could do whatever dimensions suit your needs. I went on Google maps and searched for metal shop, or metal supplier, or steel shop. In DFW it was called Metal Supermarket. They have all kinds of stuff. Here is the link that I copied the mod from. If this doesn’t work I’ll add it in the description of the video. Good luck
www.smokingmeatforums.com/threads/old-country-bbq-pits-wrangler-mods.148594/
I added the link in the description for you. Have fun man! Great mod!
Sorry, I'm late to the party...Can you grill steaks on the firebox grill? I'm not always wanting to slow smoke. Great video!
Absolutely you can! That’s what it’s for other than the fire. It’s a great cooker!
Hi Scott, I really liked your fabrication of the side table welded brackets to the exhaust chimney. The only thing I might differ with you is
with the placement of the exhaust port to the chimney. I think this port might need to be lower on the steel plate to capture as much
flavoring smoke possible as you are cooking. Other than that, I really enjoyed your video very much. Thanks!
rgoidel great points. I think you may be right. I sold this one but I’ll be doing another and will keep this in mind! Thank you
Thanks for the detailed review! I was tossed between this and the larger one.
japheth96 good man glad you liked it. My brother got the pecos (bigger longer one) and it’s nice too. You can definitely get more on the Pecos. But I just cooked two 12lb briskets on this one.
You should do a video just on that tray. Love it. Need dimensions!
John Garcia man I had to sell this smoker because I had to move. I pretty much roughed it. I will definitely do it again when I move in to my new house and buy a new smoker. I’ll probably buy this exact setup. It was awesome!
Side tray is best mod I have seen 👍
Thanks it really makes a huge difference.
That's a nice smoker for sure. Nice and heavy but it cost more than double what I paid for Oaklahoma Joe's so its not really an apple to apple comparison, but it's a good comparison. I've had a Oaklahoma Joe's for 5 years. I have no mods except for charcoal basket and it works great. I guess we all buy what we can afford. Thanks for posting.
Broken Arrow oh yeah without a doubt Oklahoma Joes are good smokers. Their name isn’t popular for no reason! Smoke on brother!
Great review, thanks for posting it. I'm looking to get a new smoker and I was actually leaning towards an Oklahoma Joe because of the price, but I think I'll be getting an Old Country now.
3 years later, how is this smoker holding up?
Anonymous Salamander I actually ended up selling it in May because we are moving and I didn’t want to move that heavy thing. I got the same money I paid for it. It was a very nice smoker and I will buy the same one again for sure! Good luck. The Oklahoma Joes isn’t even comparable in terms of quality.
@@scottsworld21 Oh okay. Thanks for the reply
Good video..u still liking ur wrangler looking to get one.
Really nice video helped influence a decision towards a purchase and awesome job on the extra tray idea!
Shawn Martin thanks man I'm glad it helped you out!
I have the OJ Longhorn revers flow smoker and let me tell you, it is amazing. About the firebox I just had a buddy of mine weld it and it’s solid.
theburners32141 oh I’m sure they’re good smokers. You know you just get caught up in all the hype buying these things. Smoke on brother!
Scott Doyle I agree. Smoke is a lifestyle and not a fad. Great video.
With time all smokers will seal themselves. I have no mods on OKJ highland and it’s a beast with no leaks. Had it for over a year
Hi Scott , can't get these in the uk sadly. What size is the cooking chamber and also the smoke stack? Im going to try and build one here.
camaro1972ah ah man that’s tough. Well you see what a quality stick box is, so go find something similar. Good luck
Firebox is 17x13.75 which I do recommend a little bigger maybe 24x13.74. The smokestack was probably about 6 inches wide. I sold it because we moved and I don’t know exact dimensions.
I am hoping to get one, like yours next week, can I get the dimensions of the plate you added on? I noticed when I was checking these, the flip up table was very flimsy. Great video, by the way. Thank you!
Hey Barry thanks, here is the link to the forum I got the idea from. I just took his picture and roughed the dimensions to make it look similar. I can get the exact measurements if you need them tomorrow. Thanks again
www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/148594/old-country-bbq-pits-wrangler-mods
hi Scott, Would u be willing to make another side shelf to sell?
Eric In STL sorry Eric I just saw this. Man it’s one of those one off projects
What kind of brackets did you add under extra shelf to fasten on to handles on grill.
Been looking at these fixing to get me one. Thanks
Jimmie Durrant here is where I got the shelf idea from with pictures
www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/148594/old-country-bbq-pits-wrangler-mods
I do like the old country smokers but imo nothing wrong with an Oklahoma joe either!
italianrelic yeah I agree. I just think they might be a tad bit over priced for the quality compared to the OCW
Wow very nice. I personally have the duo char-griller and have done a lot of modifications. I'm in the market for a new more sturdy smoker. Where can I purchase one of these exact same smoker?
Ivan Quintana you might be out of luck with this one. Right now they sell one that looks just like it called the Wrangler II, but it's 299 and it's the thin steel. I've only seen these at Academy sports. I don't know why they did that. The one here in the video is an awesome cooker, I just don't think they sell it anymore.
SCOTT DOYLE oh damn! Ok well I might just have to see if I have my buddy custom make me one then. I'll keep an eye out for one. Thanks again bud
Nice table! Can you share the dimensions? I saw someone had welded a support between handle and exhaust stack. They were concerned that after time the handle would bend down from the weight of objects over time. What do you think? Also, I have been researching plate steel and not sure what to do here? What grade, cost and dimensions?
I don’t have the dimensions with me, if I can remember I’ll send them to you. You know I don’t store it with the table on it. And honestly this smoker is well built, and this is the handle used to pick up the smoker and roll around, it’s very strong. I don’t think it will bend down any time soon, but if you have a welder handy, it probably wouldn’t hurt just to have extra support. Thanks!
Bro its just like you said. I've been flip floppin between many off sets. This vid just sold me :) \m/
Michael Anders haha that's great! I'm glad I could help. I was stressing out about it. I'm still very happy with my choice. I've cooked ribs, chickens, venison, brisket, pork, and even grilled some nice steaks on the side and everything has turned out awesome!
Good video Scott I was going to get the Oklahoma Joe but now I'm going to get the Wrangler. I'd like to buy a side tray table if you make it that's the best grill mod I've seen yet, smart
Edward VanHook thanks Edward! Man I wish I could make stuff like that
kool smoker not bad,you did some up grades,it should last you,one thing that I did wrong was I used those barrel swivels & they tend to freeze up after awhile,the ones on my door ended up breaking off,I now made some swivels with pipe & round bar,jus my 2cents
good point. I'll be sure and keep them lubed up.
i have been looking at a new smoker and it has been between OC Wrangler and OJ Highland, might have just made up my mind. I see you made this a few years ago, how has it lasted?
Brad Burgess man it’s been a really good smoker. I take really good care of it. It’s a solid built well made piece. I think it’s WELL worth the extra money over the OJ. Those things just aren’t built like they used to be. Good luck. You won’t be disappointed. My brother bought the pecos, I’d look at that too. It has a little extra room for more stuff to cook.
Wish I had a academy close so I could check them out. Don't like the idea of having something that big shipped. Any damage and having to fight with shipper/ freight company
Hope you have a receipt....that's not 3/16....looks 1/8.....FYI Academy has had their information off on this from time to time. If it was 3/16 it would weigh over 300 pounds. But I love that added side shelf.
it does weight over 300lbs. it was printed on the label by old country not academy. I'm positive it's 3/16. thanks for letting me know though.
+SCOTT DOYLE the way you tell is the pan warmer on the firebox.....it's the same thickness as that plate. The thicker units do not have that Lshaped plate. It will be like a box shaped and the hinges will not be on the top. But see they trick you. They give you a unit with 3/16 doors and make you think the rest it's 3/16 but it's 11 gage which is the same as the OKJ. However she's welded baby. You have a welded unit which is like gold. But having the doors at 3/16 is better than what the rest of the cheaper units have and are made of. Old country are good pits no matter what and by far the best value. But I inspected them thoroughly in the store and noticed that the door was in fact thicker than the plate used on the actual cooker. Your unit weighs in at 225. Which is still pretty heavy. But if it was all 3/16 it would be almost 350.
actually you're right, it's 11ga with 3/16 doors. But it is thicker than OKJ which is 12 ga. Either way I this this is a better smoker, but is also mor expensive.
You done right bro, the Pecos has a 14ga body with a much thicker door.
Fyi- Heavy doors have purpose, not just done to fool buyers into thinking the entire grill is made of heavy steel.
In truth when you lift a door to move /inspect meat cool air hits both sides of a door and it cools down fast.
But' if a doors made of thick steel the door retains heat way better than a thin tin door that must heat back up again. This just effects your grills heat inside a bit more is all.
Grill corps know all about this but never offer this extra feature. Of course when a grills body is made of heavy steel the doors already thick anyway. I know the door/body both are extra thick on this nice arse smoker! Hope your still enjoying it freind.
I'm about to buy one like it, I'm building a roof over it because my Char-Griller rusted out so damn fast. Thin p.o.s. grill but still a roof would add yrs to any smoker. Similar to a small gazebo I guess? They sell small aluminum frame/tarp style roofs for grills pretty cheap online too fwiw...
Hope your CG cover lasted longer than mine that dry rotted really fast.
Nice Grill, best brand you'll find in any store thats for damn sure. Appreciate the vid!
Right on Harry Ballz! Thanks for the feedback. Hell yeah man it’s been a great grill. I actually had to sell it because I moved and I didn’t want to haul that heavy ass smoker, but I was at Academy the other day looking at buying the same one again. It’s a great quality smoker. And you are correct about keeping a roof over it. I bought that great cover and I kept it under a roof. I like to take care of my stuff and make it last. Just a little TLC and this thing will last a very long time! Thanks again brother.
thanks for the review i am deciding on one of these now and this helps
Awesome you can’t go wrong with either one. Good luck!
what did you use to seal the doors?????? also how did you seal it?
Jose Gallegos it’s called Lavalock smoker gasket on Amazon. Worked great!
Great video! Thank you, I was thinking about getting the brazos by old country bbq pits but this is just as good.
shane morton man I had to sell this wrangler because we moved, but the brazos is gonna be my next smoker. That thing is SOLID! Thanks a lot and smoke on brother!
Why u going brazos? Thicker steel or more cooking area the main reason?
Conrad M both. I like the thicker more heavy duty steel (seems like it will hold up longer), and yes the cooking area is a lot bigger. It’s probably the size of the pecos, but with an upper shelf too.
Conrad M there was one time where I cooked two briskets, and I dint have room for all the ribs and sausage on the top shelf. Don’t get me wrong the wrangler is still one of my favorite smokers of all time.
I'm gonna buy that one day or the Brazos. But for now I'll practice on my Oklahoma joe highland until I get the art down.
I've been doing the same thing, starting with the Highland. Uneven temps(left/right) are killing me. How's it going for you?
Great idea with the tuning plate
just smoked ribs, about to sit down and eat with family
What sealant did you use around doors
Lava lock tape from Amazon. Only around the doors though, I didn’t use any sealant anywhere.
Very nice review! Love the side table.
thanks, it's very handy!
bro I got the wrangler 2 and its disappointing. besides that it came all bent up from the delivery. now I have to wait for them to pick this one up then I get to repurchase another one. Great customer service. Its a hurry up and wait now.... I did ask if I would receive my smoker before Thanksgiving lol... They said yes lmfao!
I LOVE MY WRANGLER!!!
Thanks man, solid review
Awesome thank you!
Was really up pm smoker until I read these reviews. Did they just get lemons or are these valid complaints? Confused....?
Carl Hubbard this smoker in the video is the Wrangler. They started last year making the Wrangler II and it was really thin and not very good, but it was a lot cheaper. But I was in Academy two weeks ago and they brought back the original Wrangler like in this video. It is a fantastic smoker as well as the pecos version. Pecos is $399 and this Wrangler is $499. The Wrangler II was $299.
Thanks much, Scott. I really enjoyed your video and learned a lot.Looking forward to more from you.
Carl Hubbard thanks man I appreciate that!
Could you tell me the width of the wheels from the outside of one wheel to the outside of the other? Thanks!
Nathan Pier it is a tad over 25 inches
what temp gauge (threads) do i use?
Not exactly sure what you mean? I just bought the thermometer separately and screwed it in. Does it not just thread into the grill? Is it old country brand?
I would take out that heat deflector completely you don't need it that firebox is low and there ain't no flames that high if you need to cut the flames out put a plate where the upper grate would go and that's below the cooking chamber you're all set You have 3 in for all the heat and smoke to come straight up it's already deflected man
did the pecos have the top shelf also?
Scott Geiger no it didn’t. But now they make this wrangler 2 with real thin metal. The pecos is still built strong though and it probably has about the same amount of cooking surface as this one because it’s a bigger smoker
they no longer carry the wrangler at academy ,now. only the wrangler 2
Scott Geiger yeah I know my brother was going to buy one and told me. I have no idea why they did that. This is an awesome smoker. I did see one on FB marketplace but it went quick!
looks like I am getting the pecos. I will add the top shelf myself
Scott Geiger that’s what I would do. It’s a nice smoker, and then that extra shelf would take it to the next level.
love that tray mod. I'll be doing that.
KicksLikeA Hammer yea it really is nice. Makes a huge difference!
Oklahoma Joe smokers are glued on the end caps and not welded. Oklahoma Joes are also bolted with firebox to the chamber. Old Country are welded and not glued. This is too easy!
Solid review !! Thanks
George Abell thanks man I appreciate that!
Can you share exactly what type of door gasket you used and where to get it??? I just bought a used wrangler today and want to do that door seal mod.
I bought it on amazon. LAVALOCK. It works very well. very sticky so don't mess up putting it on. I recommend it though. here is the link.
www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00JO00S04/ref=ya_aw_oh_bia_dp?ie=UTF8&psc=1
is there a difference between the original and the wrangler 2
Elmen Ortiz yesthe original was $499. Now they're not built as good and cost $299. I don't think Academy sells the original one anymore.
Yes, unfortunately you can't buy this nice, original Wrangler model anymore. The Wrangler 2, that is out now, is vastly cheaper in construction. The wheels are smaller at only 8", the steel is not 3/16 anymore. It's barely 1/8". The Wrangler 2 is not a good buy. It does not seal or hold temp well and I couldn't get the initial temp above 275 on my friend's that he just bought even with split logs and charcoal. The thinner steal radiates too much heat off and out of the cooking chamber. It's always easier to take your initial fire/temperature up to 350 plus and then knock down your dampers to drop the temp down to your preferred cooking range (225, 250, etc.). You can't do that on the new Wrangler 2 model. Clearly Old Country is trying to cut their production costs down by building an inferior product. It's a shame, this used to be a great smoker!
they are now making the OG quality wrangler again
Btw shelf mod Bytchin!! lol
got me an Old Country Wrangler 2.. arrives 3/7/17 hoping its of equal quality cause they didn't have any more wranglers. Wanna make a vid and send it to ya if that's cool \m/
Michael Anders cool man you'll love it. It's been a great smoker. Mine is a year old and still looks new. I sprayed it down with olive oil the other day again and wiped it down. Looks brand new again
Sorry to say that the Wrangler 2 is not anywhere close to the same grill the Wrangler was. They used thinner metal on it now and the barrel is shorter. It's a shame really because the Wrangler was very nice pit
Cravin Morfish I haven't heard of the wrangler 2. Is that something new? Go look at several Academy Sports and see if you can track down an older one. Also look on Craigslist. I saw on in the DFW area for $150. What a shame if they start building these like their competitors.
Killer smoker
You should have put your seals on the lids rather than the body. That will keep you from dipping food goo on them and things getting all nasty
Actually that’s a great idea. I should have.
Where to buy this?
NorthWest Living Academy Sports
So where did you get the sealant?
The lava lock seal around the two lids? Amazon. That the only seal I put on it.
bet it was!WTG...
Cool mod.
Nice
hi Scott, i live in st louis missouri
keep them vids coming,show them briskets kookn
man I just cooked one also, I should have posted it. I also smoked ribs and smoked mac'n cheese. It was the first time for that and it was TaStY!
I probably could have built ya on out of 1/4 inch that size for about 500 bucks if ya lived in Kansas. That looks like 1/8 inch not 3/16 by the way.
david crumrine thanks man I wish I would have found you to do it. I just know it’s not that thin steel or foil that char broil uses on their smokers. It’s a nice smoker and I still love it!
Hi David, I live in Central Texas...you serious about making one similar to this one out of 1/4" steel in the $500 range?
Joe Otto if not I went to academy the other day and my brother bought the pecos. I was shocked to see they had this exact wrangler back in stock for 499. I guess enough people complained and they brought it back.
Why the dislikes, just don’t get some haters 🤦🏻♂️
Yeah you can’t please them all. They probably hate the way I talk.
or at least send me exact dimensions to take to a welder, including the slide tracks, please
Eric Smith where do you live? I could send you to the places I went to get the stuff. Then I have a buddy who can take it to his work to have it welded. The link below is what I followed. I just guessed on how big to make it. I measured the diameter of the top of the smokestack to figure out how wide to cut the hole around the smokestack. I bought 1- 2 foot bar of 90 degree angled steel. I bought the sheet of steel from a local steel shop. I drilled a bunch of holes and then cut it to fit the smokestack with a grinder.
www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/148594/old-country-bbq-pits-wrangler-mods
good info. probably robbed sale from oklahoma joe.
Thanks Donald. It doesn’t matter even compare in my opinion. Good luck
@@scottsworld21 The welded firebox and lowered chimney outlet is what done it. they were going to be my 1st mods. THANK YOU!
So you bought this smoker because you didn't want to mod an Oklahoma Joe with a couple gaskets, but you modded this one anyways. I don't get the thought process on this.
N8 Dawg haha sorry you don’t get in N8 Dawg. Gasket had nothing to do with the choice I made. ONE factor was the fire box was WELDED to the cooking chamber, so I didn’t have to mess with that sealant. The main reason I bought it was because this smoker will last a lot longer imo
After all the money you spent on this grill your Oklahoma Joe's would've been just as nice
You're probably right. I think this one will last me a long time though. After looking at the OJs later I'm still happy I purchased this over the Joe.
I have the same smoker and I like it a lot. I drilled a hole next to the smoke stack so I can run my temp probe through it in stead of smashing the wires with the door. I'm planning on changing out my firebox door to put in a better dampener to refine temp control better. It has been a great smoker.
That's a good idea with the probe. What kind of door ar you gonna replace it with? There is another mod for the dampener that you might wanna try before you replace it. I'll try and find a link for it.
Scroll to the bottom of this link page. He has a spring bolt added to his damper. Looks very solid.
www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/148594/old-country-bbq-pits-wrangler-mods
+SCOTT DOYLE I was going to make a new door for mine and use 3 or 4 in pipe with flat plate steel welded with a bolt to control air flow, but I may try that mod with the spring bolt. I hadn't thought about that until you sent the link. Hopefully that will work without having to fab a door. Thanks for the idea.
How did you attach the drip bucket?
The smoker itself has a little hook built on to it already. They sell the buckets over on the cooking isle at academy. It would be very easy to add a hook if you don't have one.
+SCOTT DOYLE I figured that might have been the case, mine didn't come with a hook though is it welded on? Nice review btw yours is one of the reasons I decided to go with it
+Lawrence Brown thanks man I'm glad it helped you! Yes mine is welded on, but you could drip a hole and add the hook or you could probably bend some kind of coat hanger and put it through the hole and have a hook that would work just as well.
hi Scott, i live in st louis missouri
hi Scott, i live in st louis missouri