Ewhurst Green model railway - Seventies Southern Electric
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- A Blue /Grey 'Southern Electric' trains selection from the seventies including 4TC and 4 CEP units plus the General Manager's Inspection Saloon no.TDB 975025 - as converted at Stewarts Lane (outshopped 1st November 1969) from 6B buffet car no.60755 from unit no.1032.
Push-Pull and Slim Jim Crompton locomotives (class 33/1 & 33/2) and an EDL (class 73) were also present. All these models were visiting Ewhurst Green model railway.
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I remember the 33/TC combo very well, I used to love breakfast in the REP up from Bournemouth, full English, smoked haddock with poached eggs, or kippers, how we have regressed.
btw those REPs really shifted, I had a BR friend who told me that they'd tested two jumpered together on I think the Hasting line, they had to hold in the breakers while those REPs seriously exceeded three figures.
Also miss the 4 REP units and the alighting from the end-doors of a 4TC at Dorchester South (large gap on the Down). There were also the 4TC units hauled by non-push pull Cromptons to cover shortages of locomotive coaching sets. 🌞
We have indeed regressed and my line has lost its Pullman and Dining cars in favour of buffet cars thence to tea trollies which were finally cut at the behest of the DfT. 😥
All the Southern Electric units are covered on my BloodandCustard website although 4 REP units were prohibited from 11kv fed lines such as Tattenham Corner and Tunbridge Wells - Hastings. 🧐
However, what I suspect your friend my be recalling is the brake testing in the early seventies with a 4 REP and EDL (attached to provide acceleration) between Woking and Basingstoke.
The conductor rail index of a 4 REP was 14; the line limit usually 16 and the addition of an ELD would have exceeded this - almost certainly requiring intervention with respect to sub-station management. ⚡
A BR colleague of mine travelled on several of these runs and (at the time) would not deny 100mph had been significantly exceeded. Obviously sustained running above this speed can lead to propagation of the con-rail...
@@ewhurstgreen It was my grey cells being exercised, he was a BR station manager, South Central I think, and the conversation took place between 1974 and 1982, I met him through a model railway club;I've always remembered the conversion as being two 4REPs, was that technically possible anywhere?
The brake testing of 4 REP + EDL was around 1975 so the timing would have been correct - I believe the 4 REP involved was unit no.3015.
While two 4 REP units could couple, a 4 REP has a conductor rail index of 14; the limit is 16 so if two 4 REP units were coupled I would have expected the second unit to have been isolated.
Worked on a good many of these when I was in Eastleigh Works 😊
Excellent! 👍
How long ago were you there?
Lest you are interested, many of the Southern Electric units are covered on my www.BloodandCustard.com website. ⚡
Across the decades spent much time in and out of Stewart's Lane, Selhurst and Lovers with the occasional need to attend St Leonards, Slade Green, Neasden, Hornsey and Reading to name a few.
However, Heathrow TTS was always the most interesting being underneath the apron with A380s berthed directly above! 😮
@@ewhurstgreen wow you got around . As strange as it seems I was never a big railway fan till recent years , I was at Eastleigh carriage works in the sixties then when amalgamation came moved to Eastleigh Loco works I left in the late eighties. Thinking back was a great place to work😊ps I see there is a 2 hap on the dreaded flea bay the price is certainly hotting up I think I’ll be outbid on this one all though I’d like it 🥲. Thanks for your interest
Fred, most interesting - I have an interest in SR coaching sets.
Did you ever get copies of records from Eastleigh?
See there are a few 2 HAP units on ebay - have a few green units on Ewhurst Green including one backdated to a Batch 1 unit with roof-mounted lighting conduit!
Yes, I did get around having had a varied career in the industry both in the UK and overseas. 🙂